HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1991 Except 3-19MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON DECEMBER 3 , 1991, AT 7 : 00 P . M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Roger w. Springer, Acting Assistant City
Attorney, Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissioner Di Monda pulled November 19, 1991 Meeting Minutes,
Page 13, Motion should read, " ... to accept and approve the
alteration to the original plan , al lowing the window to remain as
built, assuming all other changes have been c orrected.'' Mr.
Schubach noted this change had been made with copies not yet
distributed to the Commission.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the November 19, 1991 Planning Commission meeting, with
the correction to Page 13.
Resolution P.C. 91-71, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A ·PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT PROJECT AT 632 ELEVENTH STREET.
Resolution P.C. 91-72, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING ~OMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MASTER
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPANSION OF AN
EXISTING AUTO SALES BUSINESS ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 305-
307 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF AN
EXISTING AUTO DETAILING, WINDOW TINTING AND AUTO SERVICE ( SMOG
CHECK ONLY} USES LOCATED AT 303 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, AND ADOPTION
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Resolution P.C. 91-75, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MASTER
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE TWO AUTO REPAIR ESTABLISHMENTS
AT 725 5TH STREET.
Policy Statement P.C. 91-3, A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, REGARDING THE
LAND USE CATEGORY FOR "CHECK.CASHING ESTABLISHMENTS".
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Suard
Hone
Chmn. Retz
Comm. Merl abstained on Item 4(h) ONLY
Hone
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COMI-11JNICATIONS F R0i'-! THE PUB T,IC
No one wished to ac.iress the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-5 PRE CISE ~EVELO ?b EN~ PLAN TO ~..1.LOW A 71-ROOM HOTEL,
;;~""D ADOPTI ON OF .?-~ MITIG._TED :;E:GATIVE DEC Ll-_RATION AT 125 PACIFIC
COJ!-ST HIGHWAY, KING BA R!30R -~v':::';~L (contin ued from Noverr.ber 19, 1991
meeting).
Recommended Actio~: To continued to January 7, 1991 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant again requested a continuance of
this matter due to the redesign of the hotel to include a
restaurant. The applicant will submit a complete set of plans
approximately two weeks prior to the January 7, 1991 meeting.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:05 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:05 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconde d by Comm. Di Monda, to continue this
application until the Janua r y 7, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
PDP 91-23 --cmrnITIONAL u s;:: !?E~MIT FOR AUTO REPAIR, AND ADOPTION
CF AN ENVIR0Nl4'"E i.~TAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF 2697 PACIFIC COAST
H I GHWAY, A.S .A .P . MUF F LE-· ... & BP.AKES.
Recommended Action: To continue to January 7, 1992 meeting for
applicant to s uo3it the noise level survey.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends this item be continued to the
January 7, 1992 meeting to allow the applicant to complete the
noise study. Mr. Schubach noted an alternative exists if the
Co mm ission wis he s to currently approve t h e C.U.P., subject to
Resolution Conditions: (l ) a noise level survey be submitted with
improvements implemented within 60 days of C.U.P. approval and (2)
a new site plan is to be submi tted and reviewed by Staff.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:07 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission on this item.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:07 p.rn.
Chmn. Ketz confirmed with Mr. Schubach the applicant would complete
the noise study to determine the noise levels at the property line
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prior to the January 7, 1992 meeting. Comm. Merl noted previous
complaints had related to guard dogs, outside buzzers and ringing
bells, items currently prohibited in the Conditions.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:09 p.m.
Michael Hansen, applicant, stated he needed to be "in business" in
order to complete the noise study. Chmn. Ketz confirmed that Mr.
Hansen had read and agreed to all of the Conditions.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:10 p.m.
Comm. Merl confirmed the applicant could not be in operation
without a permit and quest ioned the applicant's statement that the
noise study could not be completed unless the facility was
operating. Mr. Schubach explained a study can be done prior to the
business being in operation by testing other similar businesses, or
actually conduct a sound study of the applicant's business while in
operation. Comm. Merl stated he felt problems generated by the
previous business were addressed in the C.U.P. Conditions. Chmn.
Ketz felt provisions had been made in the Conditions if excess
noise were created by this business.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve CUP
91-2 3, subject to the Conditions provided within Staff 's recom-
mendation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAI~:
ABSENT:
Comins. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
VAR 91-1 VARIANCE TO ALLOW A REMODEL AND SECOND STORY ADDITION
THAT RESULTS IN A TWO-CAR GARAGE WITH A SETBACK OF 3.5 FEET RATHER
THAN THE REQUIRED 17 FEET AND REDUCES GROUND LEVEL OPEN SPACE TO
ZERO RATHER TH.11..N THE REQUIRED 200 SQUARE FEET, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL i'1EGATIVE DECLARATION AT 3104 INGLESIDE DRIVE
(continued from November 7, 1991 meeting).
Recommended Action: To deny the variance.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends denial of the variance, noting
at the November 7, 1991 meeting, the Planning Commission requested
Staff investigate the relocat ion of the power pole and associated
problems regarding the small-sized lot. Staff confirmed the pole
relocation cost is $20,000. He submitted and described one sample
building diagram, but is aware there are a variety of designs for
building a fairly large unit on small-sized lots.
Chmn. Ketz asked if the diagram allowed for the required turning
radius into the garage, to which Mr. Schubach responded aff irma-
tively. Comm. Merl confirmed the alley width was 10 feet.
Public Hearing opened by Chrnn. Ketz at 7:17 p.m.
Simon Mitchell, 3104 Ingleside Drive, discussed the plan submitted
by Staff, stating if he were building from "scratch", the plan
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would be good, but he is remodeling his home. He challenged that
he is being denied a property right if the garage is not allowed to
exit on Ingleside, stating 12 out of 17 homes currently exit on
Ingleside, eight of those homes have been remodeled. Mr. Mitchell
described his lot, also stating the cost of moving the power pole
would leave him no money in which to i.=-.-:p rove his home. He
discussed current versus future parking capa b ility. Mr. Mitchell
understood the Zo ni ng Requ irement s we r e created to protect
residents. Since hi s neighbor s actively a pprove his plans, so this
protection is not required. He also fel t that s ma ll lot standards
and requirements should be re-evaluated in order to allow the
property owners and City to be able to work with particular lot
sizes. Mr. Mitchell felt a Variance would be inappropriate. Comm.
Marks and Chmn. Ketz confirmed the 10-feet alley was a "two way".
Co::rrn. Di Monda asked for further explanation regarding the
neighboring garages, to which Mr. Mitchell complied. Comm. Di
Monda then requested copies of previous subject information,
including photographs, which Mr. Schubach supplied.
Comm. Marks asked the architect, Gary Lane, Lane Building Designs,
if he had considered an angled alley entrance. Mr. Lane said that
due to the size of the garage, that was not considered. Chmn. Ketz
commented three parking spaces were required.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:30 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed renovation history of the
neighboring houses and current Code requirements. Chmn. Ketz and
Mr. Schubach discussed set-back requirements, with Chmn. Ketz then
stating she felt the Variance should be granted since the difficult
situation solution provided allows for more parking. Comm. Suard
commented the remodel is a good solution and would enhance the
neighborhood. Comm. Merl felt the alley was a problem and
preferred the garage entry be on Ingleside. Comm. Di Monda
expressed his concerns regarding a precedent being set. Mr.
Springer stated each case would be decided on its own merits, not
vesting a new applicant with any right to a Variance. Mr. Schubach
pointed out that 'if a Variance is granted, it runs with the land.
Mr. Springer felt that if a new structure were built, the Variance
would not apply.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to approve the
Variance.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Cornms. Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Di Monda, Marks
None
None
CO N 91-5/PDP 91 -7 CONDI TI ONAL US E PERMI T , TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22886, AND PRECI SE DE VELOP MENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT
143 MANHATTAN AV EN UE (continued from September 17 and October 15,
1991 meetings).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit,
Tentative Parcel Map and Precise Development Plan.
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Mr. Schubach stated the Corr:mission requested corrected. drawings
addressing several issues: side yard raising, bootleg potential,
lack of architectural details, interior stairway corrections and
courtyard elevation, noting new drawings had been received and
described the changes made. Mr. Schubach noted Staff's felt
landscaping should be further described for the "courtyard" area
and at least three trees should be planted. He stated a letter
from C. D. Michel re lated to a civil matter concerning the locating
of a fence between properties, but also for the Commission's
information.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:43 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:44 p.m.
Comm. Marks stated the drawings displayed a continued problem with
stairways and requested correct, precise drawings be submitted.
Comm. Di Monda commented upon the basement and property elevations,
stating the purpose is to get the house six feet below grade,
obtaining a "basement" level, to which he objected. He also
coIT1J.~ented upon the lack of b~ilding esthetics, suggesting the
Commission actually look at the building. Mr. Schubach suggested
that perhaps the application could be approved with a Condition of
Approval that new, corrected drawings be submitted to the Commis-
sion.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:48 p.m.
Ron Riggs, applicant, requested the difference between "concept-
ional" and "preliminary" drawings, to which Comm. Marks and Mr.
Schubach replied. Comm. Di Monda explained the problems relating
to the basement to Mr. Riggs. Comm. Marks requested Mr. Riggs
assure his architect review the drawings after marking the areas in
question on his copy of the drawings and returning them to Mr.
Riggs. Mr. Riggs explained his confusion regarding the issues and
requirements, stated he had been working with the Staff and City,
requesting specifics as to what the Commission wanted, exactly.
Comm. Di Monda explained if the Building Code is violated at any
time during construction, changes will be requested. • Mr. Riggs
requested approval, with conditions.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:05 p.m.
Mr. Schubach explained that plan flaws are caught during plan check
prior to obtaining the Building Permit and are more related to the
Building Code. The Commission could request the plans be resub-
mitted to it after approval.
Comm. Di Monda felt the required changes could be corrected through
Staff, commenting the "basement" issue was an ongoing problem which
would be address e~ at the City Council/Planning Commission meeting.
Comm. Marks reiterated his feeling that precise, correct drawings
should be submitted, requesting that Staff not accept substandard
drawings for submittal to the Commission. Comm. Di Monda discussed
the letter from Mr. Michel with Mr. Riggs. Mr. Riggs stated the
letter related to another condominium he owns which has property
drainage problems. He stated a gutter drain is being requested,
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and Mr. Riggs is pouring cement in his side yards prior to a street
cut being made. A v erbal agreement has been made to erect a fence
between the adjacent propert~es since Mr. Riggs previously took the
chain-link fence out because it was three inches too far onto his
property. Comm. Di Monda requested Mr. Riggs work with the
Planning Department o n this issue. Comm. Marks discussed the
drainage problem with Mr. Riggs , discussing the specifics of the
installation tiw~~g.
J,mTION by Comm¥ Suard, seconc.2:d by Comm. Merl, to approve CON 91-5/
PDP 91-7 with Conditions, plus an additional Condition requesting
the Planning Department obtaining from the applicant and presenting
to the Commiss ion a revised set of plans addressing the stairway,
the window on the south elevation not shown on the plan and
basement/first level of "B" Unit.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Com.ms . Di Monda, )!arks, Mer 1, Suard, Chmn. I<etz
None
:N·one
None
SUB 91-2 REQUES'l' FOR APPROVAL OF A VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL
MAP #2324:6 TO SU'SDIVIDE TWO LOTS INTO THREE LOTS FOR A PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 206-212 PROSPECT AVE~~E.
Recommended Action: If approved, impose co~ditions as recommended.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating Staff is recommending
Conditions imposed through the Reso lution. He noted supplemental
information , c han ges reques ted by the Public Works Department;
rat her than requ iring completiori of the off-site improveme nts prior
to approval of the final map, t he modified condition gives the
app lication the option to guarante e completion of the improvements,
which protects the cities interests. Mr. Schubach described the
uniqueness of lots, surrounding lot proportions , proposed sub-
division and accesses, noting that while Hermosa Beach considers
the fronting roadway an "alley", Redondo Beach considers it a
"street". He stated the City Attorney's opinion is that a City
cannot apply its Codes outside of its jurisdiction.
Mr. Schubach noted the Commission has the authority to decide if
Reynolds Lane is consistent with the needs of the community. He
stated if the subdivi sion is approved, the impacts will be
mitigated by an overall improvemeint to the public facilities that
will serve t he subdivision.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 8:22 p.m.
Mark Lueker, applic ant, read his prepar ed summary to the
Commission, outlining why he feel the subdivision would meet City
and neighborhood needs while creating value to the neighborhood.
He stated he had been working on this subdivision for a t otal of
two years. He presented copies of correspondence and photographs
of the lots and adjacent areas to the Commission for its review,
noting the City of Redondo Beach supports the subdivision. Mr.
Lueker confirmed with Comm. Marks that one of the properties will
be have sewer lines connected to with the City of Redondo Beach's
lines. Comm. Suard discussed area. upgrading with Mr. Lueker,
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noting Mr. Lueker has no olans to construction other than one house
on the back lot. ~
Robert Brandon, 217 Prospect Avenue, stated he has lived at this
acidress for 50 years. He st!:"ongly objected to this application,
noting the confusion in address, the application does not agree
with the downgrading which was decided upon in t he last election
and stated the lots are landfill ove r an old oil sump, used from
1920 through 1950. This waste was never cleaned out, only filled
with soil; then houses were built on top of it. He discussed
access to the properties and discussed the area traffic problems.
Jackie Godo Ikiss, 224 Prospect, felt her
rather it is a charming prop erty. She
subdivision would result in l ose of her
subdividing two lots into three, inc reasing
density.
home was not a hovel,
felt approval of the
privacy and protested
rather than decreasing
Steven Godo !kiss, 224 Prospect, stated he bought the property 17
years ago b e cau se it was large and had open space. He stated his
property value and privacy wi l l decrease if the application is
approved. He r equ ested the app lication not be approved.
Hank Dreyfus, 209 Prospect, hoped the project will be rejected,
stating his concerns regarding the soil stability and his
unhappiness that a sub divis i on is being considered when there are
no plans to build.
Jim Barks,
R-1 Zones
more.
217 2nd Street,
are needed. He
opposed the application, stating more
felt the City needs less people, not
Mar;<. Lueker rebutted the comments, discussing proposed property
access similar to adjacent properties, stating the house to be
built would not interfere with any views or privacy or surrounding
homes. He.discussed his efforts to change his address to "1265 Van
Horn" to the di f ficulty in l ocating the house. He discussed with
Comm. Di Monda the property h istory as an oil and trash dump, which
Mr. Lueker had not been aware.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:?4 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda asked what the Commission's responsibility and
liability might be if it approved this application. Mr. Springer
didn't feel that approval o f a Tentative Subdivision Map would
expose the City to any l i abilities resul ting from below-grade
pollution, because this prope rty does not belong to the City. Mr.
Schubach commented that whether the property is subdivided or not,
a danger due to soil contamination still exi sts. This problem will
be addressed by the Building Department when a request is made to
build a home on the property. If oil exists under ground, removal
will be required.
Comm. Marks felt that this application was in conflict with Hermosa
Beach's efforts to decrease density. Comm. Suard felt that
decreasing the lot sizes, the chance of existing home improvement
would decrease accordingly. Chmn. Ketz stated the lots being on a
20-feet street inhibited approval due to the possibility of
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increased traffic circulation problems. Comm. Merl noted the lots
conform to the General Plan relating to minimum lot requirements,
with the proposal being consistent with the General Plan. Mr.
Schubach noted the application is consistent, stating the City
Attorney had stated the Commission has the authority to decide
whether or not Re ynolds Lane ~s consistent with the needs of the
community. Comm. Merl qu e s tio n ed this statement in terms of the
density issue, to which Mr. Schubach responded enough land exists
to meet the General Plan. Comm. Merl, though agreeing with Chmn.
Ketz, felt the situation was the real issue.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to deny SUB 91-2.
AYES:
NOES:
Col.Y'.ms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl¥ Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Nor:.a
ABSTAIN: No:1e
ABSENT: None
(A recess was taken from 8:59 to 9:07 p.m.)
PARK 91-6 PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW A 150 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION,
AND TO PROVIDE REQUIRED PARKING OF'F-SITE AT 1063 AVIATION FOR THE
PROJECT LOCATED Z:iT 1095 AVIATION BOULEVARD, AND ADOPTION OF AN
EKVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLl~~~TION.
Recommended Action: To deny the request.
Mr. Schubach stated the Staff Environmental Review Committee
recommended a covenant be required to justify an off-site parking
agreement between the church and applicant, which was obtained to
allow four parking spaces, instead of the required seven, and with
a revokable parking allowance condition. He stated work had
commenced to expand the kitchen and bathroom areas, without an
increase in seating, of the restaurant without building permits.
Mr. Schubach re fa renced relevant Code Sections pertaining the
parking plans a ~d .requirements, e x plaining the reasons _the building
is nonconforming. Mr. Schubach noted no on-site parking is
available and offered soluti ons 1~ remodeling to allow
rear-property auto access. He stated approval could establish a
precedent, leading to unrealistic parking arrangements to allow
square-footage additions.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:13 p.m.
Jose Manuel Mendez, applicant, and Josephine Mendez, applicant's
daughter who served as translator, presented a letter from the
Church which provided seven parking spaces. It was stated that Mr.
Mendez's previous associate started construc t ion without permits or
a licensed contra ctor, leaving Mr. Mendez with the problems as they
now exist. Chm n . Ketz compare d the requirem ent of seven spaces to
the four spaces author i zed by the church, to which Ms. Mendez
stated the minister will agree to the seven spaces in writing. Mr.
Sc h ubach noted the submitted plans display ed six spaces and the
applicant was not ified the Code required seve n spaces. When asked
what would happen if there was a parking conflict between the
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. .
responded the
CoITuil. Suard
latt er . Ms.
r em ove that
chur ch's and the restaurant's needs, Ms. Mendez
res-c.aurant would close early on those two days.
r e quested the provision to revoke be removed from the
Mendez said the applicant would ask the minister to
clause.
Garv Wa v land, C.P.A., 1097 Av i 2tion Boul evard, said Mr . Men d ez had
asked t-o use the parking facilities at t h i s address, but it is
unavailable for the restaurant's u s e . Mr . Wayland expre ssed his
concern that this parking lot would be used without autho rity by
the re staur a n t 's p a trons. Comm . Marks and Mr. Wayland di scu ssed
parki ng in the nine-foot area next to the building, wh ich was
dete rmin ed to be i n a p p r o pr i at e.
?ublic Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:24 p.m.
Comm. Suard noted a major point was if the Commission wished to
encourage area updating and objected to the revokable conditions of
the letter, noting a more per manent solution was requ i red. Chmn.
Ketz felt pedestria n s would n0t come to the restaur a nt . Comm. Di
Monda stated he was d isappointed the project was started without
permits, but pointed out s e ating capacity was not being added,
therefore, no additional traff ic wo u l d be added. He felt this
restaurant served local, srna.Ll businesses for the lunch trade.
Com.~. Di Monda felt the addition could be approved, but with the
requirement that the store front be reh a bilitated. Comm. Di Monda
and Mr. Schu bach discussed the Co mmi ss i on's ability to impose a
requirement to rehabilitate the store front, to which the applicant
.agreed.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to ap~r ~ve the
Resolution contingent upon the Commission's rec e ivi ng a
nonrevokable parking approval from the church and inspection,
acceptanc e and approv al of the existing cons t ruction by the
Building De partment , and submi ssion of store-fro n t and signage
drawings f or the Commission's a pproval.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di I-i onda, Merl, Chmn. Ketz
Comms. Marks, Suard
None
None
FOURTH QUARTER GENERAL PL.?Ul AMENDMENT: GP 91-3/ZONE 91-2
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL (GC) TO MEDIUM
DENSITY RESIDENTI;:..::.:. (MD) AND Z ON E CHANGE FROM C-2 TO r-2, OR TO
SUCH OTHER DE SIG:. ATION/Z ONE AS DEEI•rE D APPROPRIATE BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, AND ADOPTION OF A..~ ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AT 64 10TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To continue to January 27, 1992 meeting to
include the adjacent areas.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends continuance, with renotifi-
cation to an expanded area to include lot 17, noting a Resolution
of Intent has been submitted. He gave the item actions completed
thus far and described the subject parcel and the types of
construction development, as well as zoning of surrounding
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properties. Mr. Schubach noted historically this lot has been
zoned "commercial", but the a pplicant is requesting a zoning of
"residential". He noteci Staff's conclusion that combination of
this and the a djoining one -h a lf lot wou l d not result in a lot size
which could s u pport a d esirable comme r c ial project which warrants
consideration in cha n g ing b o th lots 16 a~d 17 to residential
designations. He reminded the Commission that it can only make
recommendations on General Plan Amendments or Zone Changes,
however, a Commission denial is final, unless appealed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn . Ketz at 9:40 p .rn.
No one wished to speak to the Commission relation to this item.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:40 p.rn.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the constant problems associated with the
residential and commercial zones being adjacent and the resultant
parking problems. He questioned approving residential zoning in
the center of c ommerc ial zones, c ommenting he felt the commercial
strip shou~d be enl a r g ed and viewed this item as counterproductive.
Comm. Merl expressed his agree me nt with Co mm . Di Manda's
statements. Chmn. Ketz ascert ained fr om Mr. Schu bac h the applicant
wished the change in order to allow h im to con duct residential
property development to his single-family home on the property.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to deny GP
91-3/Zone 91-2, maintaining t~e commercial zoning designation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARING
Ccmms. Di ~,:ionda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
1.;0~1.;a
NR 91-6 --AN EXCEPTION FRC~,I SECTION 13-7 (B) TO ALLOW A FIRST-
STORY RE MODEL AND SECOND STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING SINGLE-
FAMILY DWELLING WITH A i\i'ONCONFO RMING SIDEYARD AT 1040 10TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve the request.
Mr. Schu b a ch desc ribed the property location and bu ildin g con-
struct ion partic ular s , stating the second story additio n is in
comp lianc e . He sta ted a two-car garage is not n ec essarily
requir e d, the remodel is calculat ed to be 95 .1% o f r ep lacement
value o f the axi stin g nonconformi ng s truc ture . Mr . Schubach noted
the s ide y ard n o n conf ormity is n o t s evere , the exist ing s tructure is
in sou nd conditio n , the projec t ed dw el l ing s ize compares with
neighborin g houses , more t han adequ ate open s p ace is provided and
the proposed plans will result i n a n o veral l i mprove ment in
dwelling appearance.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:49 p.m.
Ken Sarno, 104 0 10th Street, a 13-year resident, introduced his
architect and contractor to the Commission. It was stated air
conditioning and heating units would be placed on the roof.
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Comm. Di Mondo discussed the roof slope with Mr. Sarno, voicing
co~cern that the mechanical equipment might protrude above the roof
top and discussed possible sol~tions to possible visual problems.
Al Meyer, associate of Ken Sarno, discussed the height issue,
noting the roof cannot be changed, but the equipment could be
located at the rear of the roof. He stated that t na location of
the units is most efficient on the roof and asked approval to use a
screen the block sight of the units.
Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:54 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to approve NR-91-6
with the Condition that the design of roof-top mechanicals be such
that they are not visible or protrude above the parapet height.
AYES:
NOES:
AEST~IN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
m:ine
Ne::~
MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE :CEZo'I:HTION OF A BASEMENT (continued from
October 15 and ~ove~~er 19, 1991 meetings).
Chrnn. Ketz ex~ressed her understanding that Comm. Marks had
requested additional information related to the number of lots
located in R-2 which would be e:::f ected by the basement definition.
Comm. Marks felt this ite .. 11 should be · discussed at the Joint Meeting
with the City Council. Mr. Schubach stated the Joint Meeting
agenda is full with six items, but this matter will be presented
under the Housing Improvement Program and reactivated as of the
City Council January 14, 1992 meeting. He stated the agenda has
been approved by the City Council.
Comm. Di Monda suggested the Commission start reviewing the
practice of filling lots prior to the HIT program. Applicants
could be i~formed the Commission does not approve lots being
totally filled. Mr. Schubach stated a Condition of Approval in the
C.U.P. accomplishes this. Com.~. Di Monda suggested this subject be
discussed with applicants prior to application submittal. Chmn.
Ketz requested Staff initiate and submit such a policy addressing
fillings to create a basement to the Commission.
Comm. Di Monda requested a policy which encourages deck space
adjacent to living areas be initiated, which was discussed and
agreed upon by the Commission, which asked Staff to initiate this
policy.
PLP-..NNING DEPART1-IENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF OCTOBER, 1991.
Receive and File.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLlu~NING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Receive and File
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CITY COUNCIL I~I~UTES OF OCTOBER 22, 1991.
Receive and File,
Chmrr. Ketz stated the Joint City Council/Planning Commission
Meeting is scheduled to be held December 12, 1991 at 7:30 P.M.
COM!'ISSIONER ITEMS
Chmn. Ketz noted the Co mmission had received a letter asking about
a "granny unit", noting the interpretation all owing two units on an
R-1 Zone lot, noting the request is for two units in an R-1 Zone
and the application shou ld proceed thrcugh the appropriate
proc edures.
Comm Di Monda ar:d Chmn. Katz discus s ed policies relating to
drawings that are submitted to the Cornmiss io~o Mr. Schubach stated
Staff has changed the requirsments, with careful examinations for
complete compl iance are being conducted by Staff, and each depart-
me nt is supplied with plan sets for review of all technical prob-
lems not noted by the Planning Department, so that the applicant
may be immediately notified . This process was discussed between
Comm. Merl and Mr. Schubach.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by
10:12 P.M.
Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm.
No objectio~s; so ordered.
CE:R~IFICATION
Di Monda, to adjourn at
I hereby certify that the fore ,;oing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled r:,eeting of December 3,
1991.
Christine Ketz; Chairman ach, Secretary
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON NOVEMBER 19, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Vice-Chmn. Marks.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
Chmn. Ketz
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Vice-Chmn. Marks introduced Commissioner Suard, who acknowledged
the introduction, thanking the Council for their vote of confidence
and stating he looked forward to working with this Commission.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the November 7, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 91-67, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CHANGE OF USE OF AN EXISTING OFFICE/RETAIL_
BUILDING TO A COFFEE HOUSE/SNACK SHOP AT 157 PIER AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 91-68, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A MASTER CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR PAINTING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION
OF AN EXISTING AUTO BODY REPAIR BUSINESS, "EUROPEAN AUTO BODY", AND
THE ADDITION OF A SPRAY BOOTH AT 501-555 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Resolution P.C. 91-70, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMM'.tSSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW LESS THAN REQUIRED PARKING AT 102 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, AND
TO ALLOW THE LEASING OF EXCESS PARKING SPACES FOR THE STORAGE OF
NEW CARS AND/OR PUBLIC PARKING AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL
NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Resolution P.C. 91-76, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, OF INTENT TO CONSIDER A
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A LOT LOCATED AT 64 10TH STREET.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No . one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-5 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW A 71-ROOM HOTEL,
AND ADOPTION OF A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 125 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY, KING HARBOR HOTEL.
Recommended Action:
applicant's request.
To continued to December 3, 1991 per
Mr. Schubach noted the applicant has requested a continuance of
this matter due to his inability to obtain Cal Trans' comments
regarding the application for adjusted curb cuts on Pacific Coast
Highway. He stated Staff recommtmds this matter be continued to
the December 3, 1991 meeting.
Comm. Merl asked if the applicant understood the information would
be available prior to that -meeting. Mr. Schubach stated the
applicant hopes to have a response, but contacted Cal Trans three
months ago.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to continue this
application until the December 3, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
PDP 91-8 --PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW A DUPLEX AT 632 11TH
STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said Precise Developme"r1t Plan.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff ~recommends approv~l _of the precise
development plan sub~ect to conditions. He described the project,
discussing each section of the duplex, exterior and interior plans,
open space requirement and parking provisions, recommending one
garage space be maintained without a garage door and a sign
designating guest parking be installed. He noted lot coverage,
density and building hei~ht are below the maximums, with trash
receptacles provided adJacent to the garage. Mr. Schubach
commented Staff recommends a condition that two existing trees on
the property remain or be replaced by two 36-inch box trees. He
stated the original plans had been accepted through Plan Check
before it was Noticed, but Staff feels overall it is a good project
and should be approved.
Comm. Merl asked if the applicant understood the condition about
the trees. Comm. Di Monda asked if all addresses are required to
be illuminated. Mr. Schubach responded in the affirmative to both
questions.
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Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:10 p.m.
Mr. Robinson, representing the applicant, stated Mr. Woodbury
agreed to retain the trees.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:11 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda asked if this rental property could be turned into a
condominium. Mr. Schubach stated not if it didn't meet the minimum
condominium standards. Comm. Di Monda objected to requiring a
"guest space" parking sign and requested Condition #2 be pulled.
Comm. Merl stated his agreement, suggesting a stipulation stating
the parking space cannot be separately rented.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to approve PDP
91-8 with the following changes to Condition #2: a garage door
will be allowed but not required, the requirement for "guest
parking" signs is deleted and leasing/renting of the guest parking
space will not be permitted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Co1D1ns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl
Suard
None
Chmn. Ketz
CUP 91-24 MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AUTO
REPAIR BUSINESSES AT 725 5TH STREET, GERMAN MOTORS AND ASENKAS AUTO
CENTER.
Reco1D1nended Action: To approve said Master Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends approval subject to
conditions, commenting the auto repair shops are in existence, but
being brought into conformance. He described the property,
location and hours of operation, recommending a change in hours of
operation. Mr. Schubach stated Staff's concerns relate to a
barbed-wire fence, lack of a trash enclosure and an R.V. and boat
trailer stored on the lot, and that Staff recommends these items be
addressed in the conditions of approval. -•
Comm. Di Monda asked the penalties in keeping the R.V., trailer and
barbed wire. Mr. Schubach · said these are zoning violations and
misdemeanor offenses, which has not be complained about or
enforced. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed planting by
the sidewalk. Vice-Chmn. Marks established no painting facilities
currently exist.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:26 p.m.
Mr. Pikowski, applicant, explained the barbed wire was installed to
prevent burglaries. Comm. Di Monda asked about the boat and
trailer, to which Mr. Schubach replied the previous business owners
are aware of the necessity to remove those items. Comm. Di Monda
established the barbed wire must be removed, to which Mr. Pikowski
initially objected, but finally agreed. Vice-Chmn. Marks deter-
mined the fence is six feet high, with Mr. Schubach stating more
3 P.C.Minutes 11/19/91
effective methods for burglary prevention can be used and offered
Staff assistance to Mr. Pikowski. Mr. Lee stressed that barbed
wire violates the Municipal Code and cannot be authorized by the
Commission.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. l:1arks at 7: 36 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to approve CUP
91-24, Staff's recommendation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di .Monda, Marks, Suard
None
Comm. Merl
Chmn. Ketz
CUP 91-25 MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE
EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING AUTO SALES BUSINESS AT 303 -307 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY. P.C.H. MOTOR CARS.
Recommended Action: To approve said Master Conditional Use Permit
Amendment.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends approval, subject to
conditions. He stated the trash receptacle is being shared. He
noted the existing business wishes expansion onto an adjacent lot,
describing the building, location and lack of direct access to its
parking lot. Mr. Schubach defined the stated conditions for
approval and stated Staff believes the Master CUP would be
beneficial for all concerned parties, while recommending the
previous conditions, including approval addressing the business
scale, be included in the C.U.P. Amendment. Mr. Schubach He
commented the applicant had diligently complied with previous
requirements and has currently obtained permits from the Building
Department. Staff's concern is the two parcels are separately
owned with no guarantee the uses will be maintained in
co-existence. Therefore, a condition which allows the pre-existing
C.U.P. to remain in effect for 303 P.C.H. if the proposed business
were to cease is suggested. He stated all of the previous
resolution's conditions have been included in this proposed C.U.P.
Amendment.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed interpretation of the
the SPA-7 requirements.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:44 p.m.
Mr. Fred Berry, applicant, stated the Staff Report was satisfactory
to him. •
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:45 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to accept Staff's
recommendation to approve CUP 91-25, Master C.U.P. with conditions.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
ZON 91-1/CUP 91-21 ZONE CHANGE FROM R-1 (ONE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL) TO C-3 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL) AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
TO ALLOW A DAY-CARE CENTER WITH 28-30 CHILDREN, AND ADOPTION OF A
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 739 LONGFELLOW AVENUE, O.K.
CORRAL DAY CARE.
Recommended Action: To deny the request.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, recommending denial and that
the area be s tudied in conjunction with the General Plan Land Use
Element revision to address the General Plan and Zoning map incon-
sistencies, noting the C.U.P. cannot be considered without a zone
change. He discussed previous property business and residential
history and current alternatives, suggesting the matter be put on
"hold", allowing Staff -to provid1::! a Text Amendment change to the
R-1 Zone. He discussed allowance for a 30-children care center
with certain criteria being met and Staff's research into other
day-care centers in the City, outlining mitigation measures
requested by the Staff Environmental Review Committee's if approval
is given.
Mr. Schubach discussed relevant Code Sections and criteria used in
making zone changes, stating findings for making the zone change
could be based on the historical property use and consistency with
the General Plan but this zone change would allow encroachment of-
commercial use into the residential area with detrimental impact.-
Further, Mr. Schubach outlined the lot size, propo sed vehicle
parking and drop-off requirements, noise impact and landscaping
requirements. He discussed Staff's recommendation for hours of
operation and that conditions be imposed to require marking of
street frontage for loading/unloading only, noting the Commission
must weight the benefits of allowing a needed community service vs.
potentially negative impacts.-_, ; •'-
Comm. Marks asked if current day-care centers are filled to
capacity, with Comm. Merl commenting upon the demand for day care.
Comm. Suard noted both current day-care centers had very little
availability, based upon his conversations with them, noting the
South Bay area is a "higher demand" area, with the ages of O - 2
most limited in available care. Comm. Marks discussed the parking
plan, noting no handicapped parking. Mr. Schubach replied the
handicapped parking could be waived in this area and that the
turning area was not adequate.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 8:06 p.m.
Mr. Jeff Brooks, parcel owner, explained the project's history,
including efforts to sell the residence and efforts to return the
parcel to its original use. Comm. Suard asked when the lot was
purchased, to which Mr. Brooks replied, "two years ago."
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Vice-Chmn. Marks and Mr. Brooks discussed the previous day-care
center and other businesses located near this lot. Mr. Brooks did
not feel noise would be a big issue.
Mr. Bill Beck, applicant, stated he was attempting to start a
day-care center at the subject location; his second attempt. He
said he had talked to neighbors and felt adjustments could be made,
benefiting the community. He requested the business be allowed to
open at 6: 30 a.m., stating the other requirements represent no
problem. Vice-Chmn. Marks established Mr. Beck had not operated a
day-care center, commenting upon the amount of traf fie resulting
from pick-up of children, which Mr. Beck did not see as a problem
since pick-up and delivery would be staggered. He explained his
yard and classroom facilities, stressing the personalized care the
children would receive. Comm. Suard and Mr. Beck discussed staff
size, which will be three permanent employees, and perhaps some
part-time employees. Comm Suard and Mr. Beck then discuss the
handling of any noise complaints.
Mr. Woods, 7 31 Longfellow, opposed the application, stating the
previous child-care center-had a very detrimental impact on the
area due to noise, traffic congestion and safety and parking and
explaining his reasons for his opposition by giving instances of
problems experienced in the past.
Ms. Virginia Rustanius, 728 Longfellow, concurred with Mr. Woods'
statements, adding the residents' driveways were used by the
children's parents. She requested the area be approved for only
R-1.
Mr. Craig Cleizak, 744 Longfellow, expressed concern that people
will park in his driveway, the lost of street parking space, but
stated he is planning to have children and a center would be
convenient. He requested he would like his lot changed to R-3
also.
Mr. Steve Schapiro, 732 Longfellow, took a poll of neighbors,
stating most of the people are definitely against this application,
noting the back-entrance street to be used_ .i.s an -.. alley and
complaining that traffic is currently congested and would become
more so if a day-care center were allowed. Comm. Suard asked if
the number of children was the objection. Mr. Schapiro responded
it wasn't the children; the concern was for safety, traffic,
parking a n d congestion. Vice-Chmn. Marks and Mr. Schapiro
discussed the parking problems including the fact that local
business employees park daily on this block.
Ms. Julie Beck, 15-year resident, wishes to open the care center to
provide quality care for her two children and all others that would
be attending the center. She urged approval of the application.
Ms. Francis Parker, 521 1/2 Loma Drive, a school teacher, noted her
observation in the difference between children who received quality
care vs. standard care. She stated all of Hermosa Beach has a
parking problem and other factors create more noise than children
playing.
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Ms. Connie Peron, 20-year resident, commented upon the differences
in the City during the last 20 years, noting it is time the com-
munity changes and concessions must be made.
Mr. Eris Simmon, 25-year resident, lives 1/2 block from a day-care
center, disputing the problems stated by the application opponents.
He stated quality day-care center is important to him and that
there is not enough quality being offered, stating he supports this
application.
Mr. Ray Peron suggested the parking problem can be solved by
issuing "Resident Only" parking permits, ending during the evening
hours.
Ms. Pattie Sauterman, single mother, wants quality day-care for her
daughter.
Ms. Ronda McDonald, native of beach area, is on the waiting list
for this day-care facility. She discussed the large day-care
center associated with her work place, stating it was filled to
capacity almost immediately. She supported the application.
Mr. Jim McDonald, felt a television show discussing day-care would
be of benefit to all attendees at this meeting, discussing the
future problems in obtaining day care within the City. He noted
the residents seemed to need help with or without the Center. He
supported the application.
Mr. Paul Moser, 15-year resident, spoke in support of the applica-
tion, noting his children have always been on waiting lists for
day-care centers. He stated the center his child is currently in
has 90 children with 6 parking spots, noting he has never seen
traffic congestion at this facility. He felt replacement of the
run-down, vacant house by a Center, would improve the neighborhood.
Mr. Bill Beck stated surveys state only 2-5 minutes are necessary
for drop-off and pick-up of children. He said that Mr. Brooks has
unsuccessfully tried to sell the land, a day-care center would be
good use of the property and requested approval. Vice-Chmn. Marks
and Mr. Beck discussed Mr. Beck's efforts and results in conducting
surveys as to the need for day-care centers. Comm. Suard asked if
the adjacent office building had adequate parking. Mr. Brooks said
it did.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 8:55 p.m.
Vice-Chmn. Marks felt this issue warranted a separate meeting to
allow in-depth discussions. Comm. Merl discussed his involvement
with local schools and feels there is a need for day-care
facilities. However, he questioned the approach to dealing with
the generic subject matter, feeling Staff's alternative of dealing
with the C.U.P. process might be a better way to assure a workable
set of conditions. He noted day-care centers are usually in a
residential area. Vice-Chmn. Marks asked for an explanation of an
amendment, to which Mr. Schubach stated the City allows small
day-care centers. However, Staff has suggested larger facilities
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within the residential zones would have certain criteria imposed on
them. A Text Amendment would be the procedure to follow. Staff is
studying alternatives to allowin9 a zone change. Mr. Schubach
suggested this item be continued indefinitely, allowing the
applicant to renotice if he wished, with the Commission directing
Staff to initiate a Text Amendment to change the text with certain
criteria included to allow larger day-care centers. Comm. Di Monda
asked the length of time for the process to be complete. Mr.
Schubach stated, as a priority item, two and one-half months.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach determined that if the Text
Amendment were approved, the C. U. P. application would be brought
back for Commission approval. Comm. Merl felt the process should
be followed, even though this will be a fairly lengthy process.
Mr. Lee noted that if a proposed Text Amendment change is presented
to the Commission, notice publication would have to be November 22,
1991, in order to meet the December 3, 1991 meeting time, which may
not allow enough time for Staff to conduct an study and complete
and analysis. Comm. Merl explained his concern regarding not
allowing enough time for proper study since the criteria
established will not be particular to this item, and ask Mr. Brooks
his time frame as a point of clarification. Mr. Brooks stated
delay would have a serious financial impact due to the time and
money spent getting to this point of time.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to direct Staff
to initiate a Text Amendment to the R-1 Zone and present the study
to the Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to continue this
Zone Change and C.U.P. indefinitely.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
(A recess was taken from 9:12 to 9:27 p.m.)
HEARINGS
CON 90-8 A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 829 15TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To grant one year extension~
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends the C.U.P. be extended for one
year to November 15, 1991 and the map be extended one year to May
15, 1992. He comment upon the construction history, stating the
extension was requested due to hardship in obtaining a construction
loan. He noted the Planning Commission may extend the expiration
date for a period not exceeding three years.
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.·
Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 9:29 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 9:29 p.m.
Vice-Chmn. Marks asked how an investment company could have
hardship in obtaining a construction loan. Mr. Schubach stated
details had not been obtained, because no changes have been made in
the Zoning Ordinance, Staff recommends continuance. Comm. Di Monda
asked if a zoning change were made, would this item be "grand-
fathered" in, to which Mr. Schubach stated only if a "grandfather
clause" were in the ordinance. Comm. Di Monda asked if the
Commission's "hands" would not be tied. Mr. Lee noted the Vesting
Tentative Map presents some complications; explaining the intent of
the legislation to developers. Mr. Lee requested deferment in
order to review the Gov·ernment Code relating to the extent to which
developers would be given vested rights prior to the Commission's
decision. Mr. Schubach noted that if the project is not completed
and returns for another extension, the Commission does not have to
grant that extension. However, prior to May 1992, certain items
cannot be imposed upon the --project once the extension has been
approved.
Comm. Suard and Mr. Schubach discussed the possibility of zoning
changes within the subject area, which was slight. Comm. Di Monda
stated he would like to grant an six months' extension to allow the
Commission to be aware of exactly what the City is considering with
regard to the Housing Improvement Program. Mr. Lee agreed this
action would be appropriate.
Vice-Chmn. Marks stated he had found construction loans are no-
problem to obtain at this time, with lower interest rates.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to approve a six
month extension of a Conditional Use Permit for the two-unit
condominium at 829 15th Street.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comins. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
Marks
None
Chmn. Ketz
PS 91-5 A POLICY STATEMENT REGARDING THE LAND USE CATEGORY OF
"CHECK CASHING ESTABLISHMENTS".
Recommended Action: To adopt a policy statement interpreting the
check cashing establishments are currently not on the permitted use
list and do not fall under "retail" or "banking and financial
institution" categories.
Mr. Schubach noted this is a formality matter, having
requested by City Council to adopt a Policy Statement.
Commission previously made determination on this item, and
recommends Policy Statement adoption.
Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 9:39 p.m.
been
The
Staff
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No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 9:29 p.m.
Comm. Marks asked if a check cashing category needed to be created,
to which Mr. Schubach responded yes, if it were to be a permitted
use. Comm. Marks asked if the people conducting the check cashing
would be monitored or controlled. Mr. Schubach responded the Com-
mission may request background checks before approval. Mr. Lee
noted that if there are concerns about the type of use, the
Commission may consider this as a C.U.P. permitted use within the
commercial zones, requiring adequate information to assure checks
and balances as to the type of use. Comm. Di Monda noted the
Commission is not adding check cashing as a permitted use.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve the
Policy Statement.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
After discussion with attendees, Vice-Chmn. Marks declared, for the
convenience of the audience, Staff Items would be reviewed out of
sequence.
PETITION TO REDUCE THE set back ON 2700 BLOCK OF HERMOSA AVENUE.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff received a petition from block residents
requesting the set back be reduced from 10' to 3'; as it is
inconsistent with other City blocks and a hardship for these
residents. Mr. Schubach defined the history of the establishment
of the individual R-3 Zone block set backs, stating changing
current set backs would divert from historical precedence and
resultant development patterns, and requires unanimous owners'
consent. Zones R-2 and R-1 have specific set .b&c_ks required. He
stated that if charges start -to be made, all owners should-then be
allowed to have same minimum set backs, which in some cases is zero
(0). Receive and file is recommended by Staff. Alternatives are
to notify petitioners may privately initiate the amendment,
following procedures, or a Zoning Amendment may be initiated.
Comm. Di Monda determined an established set back would have to be
built in with a driveway, discussing lot sizes and lot development
with Mr. Schubach. Comm. Di Monda recommended Receive and File.
Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 9:48 p.m.
Bob Strokee, representing Mary Jo Blue (2704 Hermosa), stated Mary
Jo circulated a petition signed by every property owner on the
block, giving a copy of the petition to the Commission. He
discussed the variety in set backs, displaying photographs of the
2800, 2900, 3000, 3100 and 3200 blocks. He explained Ms. Blue
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wanted to have the same set back as residents of the other blocks,
requesting a standard set back for the 2700 block be established at
three feet and not 10 feet. Vice-Chmn. Marks discussed the various
block set backs with Mr. Strokee, establishing Ms. Blue wishes to
extend her patio and is prevented by the current set back.
Comm. Di Monda asked Mr. Schubach the historical reasons the blocks
have such variations in set backs, to which Mr. Schubach complied.
Comm. Merl noted that the property lines are sometimes hard to
define due to right-of-ways. Vice-Chmn. Marks discussed obtaining
a variance rather than changing the set back with Mr. Schubach,
referencing Ms. Blue's wish for an enlarged patio. The Commission
discussed the actual set backs within the blocks with Mr. Strokee,
establishing the new buildings built after the Zone Change confirm
to the 10 foot set back, with the older buildings have less. Comm.
Di Monda noted he would not like to see increased lot coverage and
bulk and did not agree to reducing of set backs. Comm. Suard noted
that no one likes the inconsistency of the set backs, but the Com-
mission is looking for a consistent standard throughout the
community.
Mr. John Ofsel, 2705 Palm Drive, stated he thought that Ms. Blue
should be able to do what she wants to do, which will not affect
any of her neighbors. He discussed the various setbacks within the
neighborhood, stating the setbacks cannot be in conformance or
equal. He supported the reduction in setback request. Vice-Chmn.
Marks discussed the blocks' patios and balconies which have from 0
to 10 feet setbacks with Mr. Ofsel.
Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 10:11 p.m.
Vice-Chmn.
changed.
setback.
Marks stated he would not like to
Comm. Di Monda reiterated his views
see the setbacks
to not approve a
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to Receive and
File.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE CHANGE OF WEST ELEVATION FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 126 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff noted an alteration to the west elevation
of the completed project, stating to conform to plans, the window
must be enlarged. This item was presented due to the significant
changes which require an amendment to the C.U.P. Staff is
requesting a determination as to if the change is minor or requires
an Amendment and any alternatives from the Commission. Vice-Chmn.
Marks commented he saw five changes to the plan, rather than just
one. Mr. Schubach stated all changes will be or have been
corrected.
Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 10:18 p.m.
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Mr. B. Barsoum, project architect and owner, discussed the
discrepancy in window size, his proposed solution and the problems
associated with any changes on the completed building. Upon being
questioned by Vice-Chmn. Marks, he reiterated the problems in
changing a completed building, explaining how the window was
completed. Comm. Di Monda stcLted Mr. Barsoum chose to change the
design after it was approved, relocating the fire place, changing
the window size and other issues. Comm. Di Monda reiterated the
importance of the Commission's approval and the fact that changes
cannot be made without approval by the Planning Director or the
Commission, noting the proposed changes are worse than the exist-
ing building. Mr. Barsoum explained he planned on scaling windows
on his working drawing and the current proposed changes are due to
objections the existing building vs. the plans that were presented,
stating he is willing to make any reasonable changes.
Comm. Di Monda noted other items the Planning Department had
discussed with Mr. Barsoum which were not built according to the
plans presented and commented upon the low quality of drawings .. He
also noted that Mr. Schubach is trying to establish a minimum
quality for all drawings submitted to the Commission. Vice-Chmn.
Marks discussed the window plan and building history with Mr.
Barsoum, with Vice-Chmn. Marks stating extreme leeway had been
taken in making changes without approval by the Planning Com-
mission.
Mr. Ron Riggs, project owner, stated they have a problem which
needs to be solved. Vice-Chmn. Marks noted the problems were the
same as in the proposed project: inconsistency, incomplete work,
without acceptance. Mr. Riggs suggested the Commission instruct
them in the completion of this project in order to resolve the
problems, stating he would like the project to remain "as is".
Comm. Di Monda noted he hoped the same problems would not reoccur
with the next project (across the street). Mr. Riggs stated
working drawings will be submitted in the future. The property
owners then discussed all of the changes with the commission,
stating exactly what the changes were. Mr. Riggs stated he saw no
"good solution". Vice-Chmn. Marks asked for a definition of
"minor" and "significant" changes, to which Mr. Schubach complied,
stating the changes had not been approved by the Planning
Department. Comm. Di Monda noted that one of the problems is that
Mr. Barsoum misunderstands the entire building process. Vice-Chmn.
Marks asked another proposal be presented to the Commission,
discussing possible solutions with the applicants.
Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 10:55 p.m.
Comm. Suard commented if the original plans had been submitted as
the building was actually built, he thought the plans would have
been approved. He proposed a plan be proposed to govern all f uture
submiss ions and penalize applicants who make changes to the
approved plans. Comm. Di Monda noted that the Commission does not
want to set up a way for builders to make business decisions,
judging fine costs against building costs. He also stated his
disagreements with the building as built, but felt it might be
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appropriate the "put this matter behind us" at this time, while
exercising future care. Comm. Di Monda recommended Mr. Barsoum
read the building code, totally rejecting Mr. Basoum's reasons for
change as not being for financial reasons. Comm. Merl stated all
future plans received have to be dimensioned and specific. He
commented he fel t Mr. Barsoum knew he had Planning Commission
requirements to meet, and they are not to be thrown out the window.
Comm. Merl noted Mr. Basourn's responses during this meeting were
totally unacceptable.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to accept and
approve the a lteration to the original plan, allowing the window
to remain as bui l t, assuming all other changes have been corrected.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF A BASEMENT (continued from
October 15, 1991 meeting). ---
Vice-Chmn. Marks commended the Planning Department's excellent
research efforts and stated that he felt prior to any decision
making, due to the impact on R-2 zoned properties, this subject
should be put on the agenda for the City Council/Planning Com-
mission meeting. He requested Staff obtain a listing /number of
properties that will be impacted. Mr. Schubach noted the
difficulty to define the impact to current and future buildings,
but stated Staff will supply the number of R-2 properties currently
in the City. •
-MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Marks to continue this issue until the meeting
of December 3, 1991. No objections, so ordered.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Mr. Schubach noted the De·cember • 3, 19 91 meeting •is· -heavily
scheduled. Comm. Merl . asked for information pertaining to the
Joint Meeting. Mr. Schubach stated he added Beach Drive Parking
and Greenbelt Parking as Staff Items for that meeting, noting the
City Council is anxious to meeting with the Planning Commission and
will probably schedule the Joint Meeting on December 12, 1991.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF OCTOBER 22, 1991.
Vice-Chmn. Marks stated he was astounded when reading the minutes
that 50 trees had been planted in the Greenbelt without a _ landscape
plan, asking if this subject should be put on the agenda for the
Joint Meeting, to which the Commissioners and Mr. Schubach agreed.-·
Comm. Di Monda stated his understanding was an irregular planting
pattern is being followed, establishing that draught-resistant
plants were to be used.
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COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Merl noted in the 1970's, annual meetings were held between
the City Council, Planning Commission and the School Districts. He
noted that it appears not much contact is made between the City and _
the school districts. He suggested annual meetings be scheduled to'
discuss the effects on each other and how to assist each other.
Vice-Chmn. Marks suggested this item be brought forward at the
Joint Meeting, to which Comm. Merl agreed. Mr. Schubach suggested
a memorandum from the Commission mentioning this item to City
Council be sent to obtain the Council's response.
Comm. Di Monda asked if a town-town study had been applied for
through the Chamber of Commerce, which Mr. Schubach affirmed.
Comm. Di Monda noted the Chamber has asked for Council and Com-
mission members to attend their meetings when RUDAT is discussed.
However, these meetings are held on a Thursday, 12:00 noon, making
attendance difficult. He suggested a note be sent to the Chamber
asking if they would consider holding an occasional meeting in the
evening at, perhaps, the Community Center, more Planning Commission
involvement could result.
Comm. Di Monda asked for a legal opinion on what the Commission can
do with respect to removing automotive body shops and spray
painting as a permitted use within the City. Mr. Lee clarified
with Comm. Di Monda the parameters of his question. Mr. Schubach
stated a two-year moratorium could be placed for two years while
the issue is studied. Mr. Lee suggested his Office return to the
Commission with suggestions on the vehicles to be used in order to
look at further restrictions: zoning, clear and more restrictive
conditions for C.U.P. approvals, over concentration issue and
recommendation of moratorium to allow a detailed study.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Marks, seconded by Comm. Merl, to adjourn at
11:15 P.M. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of November 19,
1991.
Robert B. Marks, Vice-Chairman
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON NOVEMBER 7, 1991, AT 7:30 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL .
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chlnn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Merl.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach, Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. ·Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the October 15, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 91-61, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DETERMINING THE LEGAL USE TO
BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE FOR PROPERTY KNOWN AS 2104 MONTEREY
BOULEVARD.
Resolution P.C. 91-62, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE-
PERMIT AMENDMENT TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF SANDWICHES AND CHIPS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING SALE OF OTHER BAKERY I'l'EMS AT 517
HERMOSA AVENUE.
Resolution P~C. 91-64, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING ~OMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF AN OUTSIDE DINING
AREA AS AN EXPANSION OF AN .EXISTING RESTAURAN T. ,(IJ\ PLAYITA CAFE)
AND ADOPTION OF A MITIGATED· NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 37 14TH-STREET.
Resolution P.C. 91-65, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AME!mMENT TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF A MEZZANINE LEVEL TO AN
EXISTING 4~UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1107 LOMA DRIVE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLI.C
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
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PUBLIC HEARING
VAR 91-1 --VARIANCE TO ALLOW A REMODEL AND SECOND STORY ADDITION
THAT RESULTS IN A TWO-CAR GARAGE WITH A SETBACK OF 3.5' RATHER THAN
THE REQUIRED 17' AND REDUCES GROUND LEVEL OPEN SPACE TO ZERO. RATHER
THAN THE REQUIRED 200 SQUARE FEET, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMEN-
TAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 3104 INGLESIDE DRIVE.·
Recommended Action: To Deny the request.
Mr. Schubach gave the staff report, describing property location
and noting the sub-standard size of the lot. He stated a similar
request by previous property owners was . submitted in May, 1987
which had been denied, with City Council upholding that denial.
Mr. Schubach discussed the garage's 3.5' setback, conversion from
one-car to two-car garage, its fronting on a 10' wide alley, an
existing power pole at the property line, the need for guest space
parking and the inability of replacing a required 200 square feet
of usable open space which the applicant is proposing to use
"grass-crete" for open space replacement. He stated Staff believes
the previous denials by the -·Planning Commission and City Council
should be upheld, and that alternatives are available for property
improvement within the Code.
Public Hearing was opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:38 p.m.
Mr. Simon Mitchell, 3104 Ingleside Drive, confirmed the Commission
had photograph copies previously provided. He explained two car
garage parking would be difficult due to the location of the power
pole, discussing the difficulties in moving the pole. Be stated of-
the 17 homes, two have alley-entrance garages, adding 15 neighbors
have signed a declaration and are aware of his plans. He discussed
the sub-standard lot size, the use of grass-crete, the remodeling
of eight neighboring houses with 3.5' setbacks. He felt a variance
is not necessary and would have a potential detrimental effect _on
public welfare.
Comm. Marks asked if he had a project archit._ect,
Mitchell confirmed Mr. Gary Lane was the architect.
and Comm. Marks discussed the power pole location.
to .. __ which Mr.
Mr. Mitchell
Mr. Gary Lane, Lane Building Designs, 1444 Aviation Blvd, confirmed
-with Comm.-Marks the power-pole location is in the center of the
property line, discussing the difficulties in pole relocation and
garage first-and second-story dimensions. Comms. Di Monda and
Marks believed a dimensional error had been made on the plans. Mr.
Lane stated the intent was the simply replace the existing
structure. Comm. Di Monda asked if the cost of pole relocation was
a consideration, to which Mr. Lane stated the 10' narrow alley was
the concern.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:50 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda questioned the lot coverage and open space area, to
which Mr. Schubach stated the open space dimension is _countable.
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Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed previous neighboring
construction versus the current building requirements. Chmn. Ketz
and Comm. Merl discussed turning radius of existing garages, which
Mr. Schubach stated current requirements are not met, but Staff has
designed lot footprints for these size lots which meet require-
ments. ._ Chmn. Ketz felt · the applicant has unusual circumstances
which should be considered and the variance should be granted.
Comm. Di Monda questioned the impact on neighboring properties.
Mr. Lee stated a precedent would be set, establishing a property
right. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Lee discussed the ramifications of
such a precedent, with Comm. Di Monda stating he felt a small lot
denotes a small house. Comm. Marks suggested a parking plan
utilizing the current garage, with .Comm. Di Monda considering the
addition of a second floor to the existing garage and ~elocation of
the power pole. Comm. Di Monda stated he was not comfortable in
granting a variance when alternatlves exist.
MOTION by Chmn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve
Staff's recommendation to DENY the request.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, and Marks
Conuns. Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl asked if Staff would investigate the street light issue
and associated problems if the items is continued.
MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to continue this
application until the December 3, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coinms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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PARK 91-5 --PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW USE OF THE GTE PARKING LOT FOR
STORAGE OF NEW CARS FOR SOUTH BAY NISSAN AND/OR FOR PUBLIC PARKING,
AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENT NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 102 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY.
Recommended Action: To approve said Parking Plan and adopt the
Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff report, defining the GTE lot loca-
tions, parking spaces, building square footage and primary usage.
He noted that Staff is concerned about new car storage, the use of
drop-off trucks, noise and test · driving which may have
environmental impacts. He stated the applicant requested excess
parking be allowed to be leased, Staff found this request
reasonable, and that South Ba¥ Nissan and the Cit¥ requested use of
the lots for parking.· Staff is recommending conditions:.
(1) only one car may be delivered at a time,
(2) storage area gate/fencing security and quiet alarms
be installed,
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( 3)
( 4)
( 5)
( 6 )
( 7)
( 8)
(9)
car alarms with sound warning systems be disengaged,
test driving or car delivery be from the west via
Pacific Coast Highway,
only new vehicles are stored,
a right-turn-only sign is placed at parking lot exits,
lighting is oriented away from adjacent residences,
landscaping at the eastern parking lot boundaries, and
securitr fencing and gates may not be barbed wire or
chain link. .
Public Hearing opened by Chinn. Ketz. at 8:15 p.m.
Mr. Richard Garvisch, Thousand Oaks, GTE, asked if the turn sign
would be applicable to GTE employees. He was told only Lots A & B
would be effected. He discussed current security gate and fencing,
to which Mr. Schubach stated any addition should be decorative.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Garvisch discussed the City's parking
request, to which Mr. Schubach stated adequate parking would be
available for public parking and Mr. Garvisch agreed.
Mr. Ralph Provetto, 731 10th Street, stated no unloading of
vehicles is done at this location, all car alarms systems will be
disconnected, no testing driving will be conducted, only new
vehicles will be stored. He stated an average of 85-90 cars are
stored on the lots, with an additional 63 cars if the application
is approved. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Provetto discussed the car
storage particulars of all the storage lots being used.
Mr. Carl Barch, 848 8th Street, owns a 4-unit apartment building
across the street from the parking lot. He stated street parking
is very difficult and wanted public parking in applicant's lots.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:25 p.m.
Mr. Lee suggested language clarification changes to the Resolu-
tion as follows: Page 4, Section 1, starting "The only two parking
areas", second line, change "identifies" to "identified" and strike
the word "shall" and replace with "may"; Section II, he proposed
the condition read, "Said alternative purposes allowed on Lots A &
B shall only be storage of new cars and/or City public parking.",
Condition 12 read, "Any more intensive use of the building shall
require amendment and approval of the parking plan prior to such
more intense use", Condition 15, first line, remove "parking•• and
add "approved", change "lot" to "lots", Condition 15 ending, remove
"in the parking lot" and add "on the property." Chrnn. Ketz asked
about Resolution changes if public parking is allowed on the 3rd
lot, to which Mr. Schubach stated a condition/amendment should be
added, to allow for review, which states, "Any additional public
parking may be allowed but shall require a review/approval by the
Planning Commission." Chrnn. Ketz stated the Resolution should
include an allowance for public parkin9 if the City wished to
negotiate for that ~arking. Comm. Di Monda and Chmn. Ketz
discussed the maintaining public parking space for the City.
Comm. Di Monda stated the City derives revenue on used-car lot
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portion of sales and the City Council should be made aware of
possible effects involving Nissan parking, City parking and City
sales tax revenue, to which Comm. Merl a~reed. Chmn. Ketz and Mr.
Schubach discussed the City's interest in public parking and the
requirements to implement such parking.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve this
apJ?lication with the changes as noted by Mr. Lee, plus a conditio'n
stipulating that in Lot C, the balance of 77 spaces, public parking
may be a permitted use subject to a parking plan being approved by
the Planning Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Merl to request.that notification be giving to City
Council and the Chamber of Commerce to advise that this Resolution
has been approved, and if the City Council or Chamber of Commerce
wish to obtain a lease, action should be taken in a timely manner,
the sales tax should be-examined as to how it effects the sales-tax
relationship with the potential of new cars being stored in Hermosa
Beach. No objection, so ordered. •
CUP 91-19 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW COFFEE HOUSE AND
SNACK SHOP, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AT 157 PIER AVENUE, HERMOSA GROUNDZ.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the request would allow change in-use of an
existing building from office retail to a coffee house snack shop.
He described the current building, stating the shop location would
be on the upper level; the lot being one of nine owned by the same
owner, describing the adjacent lots and their uses and available
parking spaces. Recommendation has been made by the Staff
Environmental Review Committee to approve -•the Environmental
Negative Declaration with ·10 parking spaces being made available
·for the snack shop. Mr. Schubach quoted applicable codes and
coastal plan relating to this proposed use. Staff recommends foods
be premade, ready for sale, without the use of heating appliances,
no kitchen,· thereby maintaining the primary use as a coffee house.
Staff recommends the types of foods allowed for sale be described,
all food be ordered from the walk-up counter, no table service
allowed, 10 parking spaces be assigned to Hermosa Groundz with
J?arking lot debris being eliminated and standard signs be
installed, since property overall appearance is marginal. Staff
believes the building use intensification can be absorbed by
existing parking facilities-along with the use .of 10 leased parking
spaces.
Mr. Schubach stated alternatives are: (1) approval without
requiring parking space leasing, and (2) approval with a full
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upgrading and clean up of parking areas and dilapidated structures,
as well as a parking space legal agreement requirement. He stated
the City Attorney suggested that the parking spaces maintenance be
made a requirement through a restrictive property-use provision.
Comm. Di Monda made a comparison between a previously approved
snack bar and the current application, noting no parking provisions
were previously required. He didn't feel parking should be an
issue in this application. He and Mr. Schubach discussed cleaning
requirements of adjacent parking lots.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:49 p.m.
Ms. Cindy Jednak, 1236 3rd Street, stated she was comfortable with
the Staff's recommendations, because she· has leased 10 parking
spaces, which was an additional cost. • However, she expressed
concern about the statements, "microwave ovens are accel?table only
for the warming of premade food items," and "only offering premade
foods," stating her intent is to prepar~ and heat foods on site to
offer her customers. Chmn. Ketz stated this would be taken under
consideration. Ms. Jednak stated she wants more abilitl to be
creative when offering food to her future customers. She discussed
the planting and cleaning -that. has been completed. Comm. Marks
asked why an entertainment permit was withdrawn. Ms. Jednak stated
she had wanted poetr~ readings, but the confusion and difficulty in
obtaining that permit caused her to withdraw her request. Ms.
Jednak described other available parking areas in addition to the
10 spaces.
Comms. Marks and Di Monda and Mr. Schubach established that a
permit and parking re-evaluation would be re9uired if a person were
to play an instrument with Ms. Jednak establishment. Mr. Lee noted
that distinctions are difficult to make between what is and is not·
entertainment, discussing the permit intents and parking issues
with Comm. Di Monda. Comm. Marks and Mr. Lee discussed the results
on businesses in limiting parking and the attracting of parking
problems. Mr. Lee noted Resolution Condition #4 should include an
automatic termination provision if the 10 parking SJ?aces are lost
if the Commission wishes to allow something more intensive than
that offered in the Resolution or the Staff report. Mr. Lee also
discussed the parking space requirement, stating· that if· -a -·more
intense use is proposed,· Staff should have an opportunity to
analyze any increased parking demands generated.
Mr. Wesley Bush, Chamber of Commerce, asked who decided an
establishment's effect on nearby areas, to which Mr. Schubach
responded -this is a standard condition and is based on the
reasonableness of what people feel are effecting them and the
Commission makes the discretionary decision. Comm. Di Monda asked
if any business had been closed as a result of this statement, to
which Mr. Bush stated, "No". Comm. Di Monda noted that Mr. Bush's
area of concern is not an issue. Mr. Bush discussed Chamber of
Commerce actions, tours and projected results, including area
upgradings, and stated the Chamber of Commerce's support of the
applicant's snack shop.
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Ms. Helene Frost, Coach Drug owner, said she had toured the
downtown area, met Cindy Jednak, and stated her support of the
snack shop.
Mr. Mark Manaskelco, 215 E. Pleasant St., member of Chamber of
Commerce, stated his familiarity with the parking situation. He
. felt parking was not a problem except a few times a year when
fairs, etc. are in operation. He is very sup.Portive of the snack
shop and saw no problems with proposed entertainment.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:10 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz suggested a method to allow the "entertainment" in the
snack shop should be acceptable. Comm. Di Monda reiterated that no
parking requirement was a condition of the last snake shop appli-
cation granted, parking is not a problem in this situation, and
should not be a condition of this one, to which Comm. Merl agreed.
Comm. Di Monda felt warming of food was a reasonable request and
commented upon her hours of business. He suggested a separation of
"light entertainment" vs. "entertainment" to allow her to provide
poetry reading and other light entertainment. Comm. Marks agreed
and suggested a definition of "individual, non-electronic music".
Chmn. Ketz commented upon the shop being a nonalcoholic establish-
ment. Mr. Lee stated if the Commission considers allowing
entertainment uses, including poetry reading, the matter should be
renoticed and the types of conditions and restrictions to be
proposed should be considered, since hearings would be required to
amend the conditions established. The Commission and Mr. Schubach
agreed the applicant can, at a future time, request the amendment
with a minimum of costs, with the fees waived. Comm. Merl com-.
mented the entertainment description is vague and would require
interpretation. Mr. Lee compared the various types of individual
entertainment for consideration.
MOTION by Chmn. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve Staff's
recommendation to approve CUP 91-19, changing Condition #1 by
placing a "period" after "acceptable", deleting the. rest of the
sentence, Condition #2, remove "premade", delete Conditions #4 and
5 (remove the 10-space parking requirement condition), eliminate
all references to the self service of the microwave oven, adopt the
Env:~ronmental .. _Negative Declaration, and allow the applicant . to
request an entertainment permit at a later time without cost except
for the notification expenses.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ket~
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
A short break was taken from 9:22 to 9:29 p.m.
CUP 91-17 MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMEN.DMENT TO ALLOW THE
INSTALLATION OF A SPRAY BOOTH IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN AUTOBODY SHOP,
AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 501 & 555
PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, EUROPEAN BODY SHOP.
Recommended Action: To deny the request.
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Mr. Schubach stated the denial recommendation is based upon the
increased intensity of use and access blockage, offering an
alternative of approval with a condition to allow paint booth
construction at a site currently housing storage trailers. He said
at a one-year review of a previous!¥ approved Master CUP, displayed
little condition-compliance activity. Three months' later, a
review revealed an compliance activity taking place. In 1991 a CUP
to construct a larger facility was denied. Mr. Schubach continued,
giving a history of Planning Commission decisions and owner appli-
cations and property status, summarizing by stating the business is
not licensed for painting or flammable materials storage, no
exhaust/filtration system exists, landscaping is currently being
improved, uniform signs have been installed, and the proposed
business would be land intensive. Mr. Schubach discussed alter-
natives to denial offered by Staff, as well as Staff's recommen-
dation of additional conditions re9arding air quality, hazardous
material handling and disposal, minimization of noise and odor
levels and accountability to A.Q.M.D. and Fire Department, if the
CUP is approved.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed other auto repair shops'
locations in the surrounding area.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:37 p.m.
Mr. Michael Bates, M.B. Technical Services and applicant's
representative, stated his educational and professional background.
He stated the applicant accepts the alternative recommendations,
but questioned Section I, Item 28, spray booth odor elimination.
He explained the two available methods, commenting upon the cost of
each, and stating an A.Q.M.D. permit has been granted, with the
booth meeting all Fire Department r.equirements.
Mr. Garabed Maroikian, property owner, stated one tr~iler is being
removed on November 14, 1991, with the other trailer continuing to
be used for storage of expensive parts. He stated anything the
Commission wants, he will comply. Chmn. Ketz said the trailers
were to haye been removed as of one and one-half years ago . He
stated he needed time to remove the second trailer. Comm. Di Monda
confirmed a spray booth exists currently, which is constantly in
operation.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:48 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda commented upon previous denials of similar requests,
noting the recommendation for denial. He asked if Staff should
revise the zoning Ordinance, restricting body shop locations.
MOTION by Chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve Staff
recommendation for denial of this request.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks and Chmn. Ketz
None
Comm Merl
None
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SS 91-3/TEXT 91-2 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING
THE ALLOWABLE USES IN THE OPEN SPACE DESIGNATED AREAS, AND ADOPTION
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of sald test amendment
and adoption of the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the City Council adopted a Resolution of Intent
to study possible amendments to the General Plan & Zoning Ordinance
related to allowable uses in the open space zone, referring to the
1986 vote to protect open space. He discussed text additions in
1989 and 1974 adopted provisions, and defined non-typical open-
space usage and specific restrictions. H~ outlined the potential
use reduction methods, stating Staff believes the standard applied
on the OS-1 zone is too severe and recommends amendment of the use
list, eliminating many restrictive facility descriptions and
clarification of non-building improvements by the addition of
specific types of facilities. Staff recommends Section 9.5-8
modification and elimination of some items currently on the
permitted use list. He stated a question of status remains
referring to government building, schools and utility structures
located on OS-designated property, (not including protected open
space areas surrounding existing school sites) which should be
given a separate zoning in General Plan category.
Mr. Schubach stated the p~opos~d zoning -ordinance text amendments
will be consistent with the Open Space Element of the General Plan,
when map changes are considered for public facilities designation,
reference to public and governmental buildings can be completely
removed from the open space element. He submitted a replacement
copy of P.C. Resolution 91-66, which has been standardized in
presentation, noting sign size will be at the discretion of ttie
Commission. Mr. Schubach also discussed Staff's concerns relating
to the South School site. Chmn. Ketz asked if oil drilling on the
South School site was a possibility, to which Mr. Schubach con-
firmed, with explanation. Comm. Di Monda discussed the resolution
terminology in reference to the size of signs with Mr. Schubach.
Mr. Lee added the Commission may require a smaller area sign, but
allow a maximum height of eight feet. Comm. Merl commented a sign
plan submittal consistent . with the usage ana • approved -by the
Commission should be included in this document, to which Comm. Di
Monda agreed, adding language stating, "the sign must be made from
materials compatible with the open space". Comm. Di Monda
questioned -the 20% lot and space coverage which allows the
footprint ~nd parking space to the same size. Chmn. Ketz discussed
the public use properties, with Mr. Schubach stating
that some private use is made of some designated open-space areas.
Public Hearing opened and closed by Chmn. Ketz at 10:09 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz stated zoning public school non-conforming open space
should go hand-in-hand with the General Plan change making thel_ll
public facilities. Comm. Merl discussed the permitted use list,
noting the museums and educational facilities have been excluded.
Comm. Di Monda stated park land is always under attack, with
museums wanting to expand into park areas, noting he d,oes not wish ·
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to add educational facilities into the category. Chmn. Ketz felt
the Commission should be handling all as one package, rather than
designating certain items as non-conforming, asking to reason for
addressing this item at this time. Mr. Schubach stated this item
was a priority request from City Council, suggesting the Commission
might make a recommendation for continuance to allow investigation
as to what City properties should be designated as other than open
space. Comm. Di Monda stated lot coverage and parking coverage,
and signage, reviews by the Planning Commission should be items for
discussion at the Joint Meeting.
MOTION by Chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm Marks, to continue SS 91-3/
TEXT 91-2 and make this an item for discussion at the Joint Meeting
to be held in December 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARING
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
FOURTH QUARTER GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
Mr. Schubach stated the law requires the Commission amend the Gen-
eral Plan four times a year. Staff suggests the private project at
64 10th Street be changed from zone C-2 to R-2 and from GC to MD.
MOTION by Chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm Merl, to place the Fourth
Quarter General Plan Amendment on the agenda.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
A. MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE INTERPRETATION OF CHECK CASHING USE.
Mr. Schubach stated a need to interpret the Zoning Ordinance in
regard to __ check cashing as a requested use exists, stating the
~erm~tte~ use list is not s~ecific, stat~ng "banking and f~nancial -
1nst1.tut1.on·s 11
• Staff queried the Pol.tee Department which Mr.
Schubach defined for the Commission. He stated Staff's concern is
the lack of a specific statement stating it is a permitted use. He
noted the Building Department has held applications but not issued
any permits until an interpretation is available. Chmn. Ketz felt
it is not a banking or financial institution and lacks comparable
security or service. Mr. Lee suggested the Commission note the
facts supporting the belief the stated classifications are not
applicable and direct Staff to prepare a resolution for the
Commission's review and adoption.
10
MOTION by Chrnrn. Ketz, seconded by Comm Merl, that "retail, banking
or financial" is not an applicable description, because the type of
use, range of transactions, security, service, hours are not the
same, with no product being sold.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
B. MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE INTERPRETATION OF LOT MERGER ORDINANCE
IN REGARDS TO COMBINE LOTS ON 30TH STREET.
Chmn. Ketz abstained due to her principle residence location. Comm.
Marks assumed the Chair. Mr. Schubach stated this item was done
but not completed, the merge was not done because the block was
already more than 80% split. The applicant requested he be able to
demolish the existing home and build individual homes of each lot.
Mr. Schubach explained the particulars of this request, including
adjacent lots with the Commissioners. Comm. Di Monda ascertained
the Commission is being asked to force lots to merge, commenting
the lots should not be forced to merge, to which Chmn. Marks and
Mr. Schubach agreed.
A courtesy-Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Marks at 10:33 p.m.
Mr. Mark Nobel, 255 30th Street, }?resented photographs of the
property to the Commission, explaining the footprint on the
properties, stating his belief that splitting of double lots have a
negative impact on the neighborhood, for which Chmn. Marks asked an
explanation. Mr. Nobel felt new building's height and bulk being
built in a crowded area creates a negative impact and requested
double lots not be allowed to split and that double-lot property
owners should not be allowed a wind fall. Comm. Di Monda stated he
didn't not see a negative impact, feeling the four remaining
property owners should be allowed to split their properties as
other had previously done.
The Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Marks at 10:38 p.m.
MOTION by Chrnrn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm Merl, to confirm Staff's
interpretation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, and Merl
None
Chmn. Ketz
None
Mr. Lee rendered the opinion, after research, that this item can be
appealed within a 10-day period of the Commission's decision.
Chmn. Ketz assumed the Chai~.
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C. MEMORA.."-JD'i.JI,f REGARDING 1) DECEMBER MEE;l'I!~G DATE,. 2) CITY COUNCIL/
PLA."INING CO:Ml.USSION KOR:~sr-IOP.
Chmn. Ketz suggested the regular Planning Commission meeting be
held December 3, 1991 and canceling the December 17, 1991 meet-
ing, suggesting the Joint Meeting's be sched~~ed for December 12,
1991. If this date is inconvenient, the Cit~ Council may recommend
another date. r:o o:ilj ectio~, ..;..:> ordered.
Comm. Di Monda auestioned the status of the standard CUP condi-
tions, with CUP; being organized into a standard condition and
special condi ticn format, whi..cr: were supposed to be initiated by
the City Manager. Mr. Schubach stated this h as been completed. He
stated snack shops have no standard conditions yet.
D. MEl-iOR.Zli'iD~-I RE~·ARDii~G LEGAL OPINION FCh. ::."L;l.l."-'fflING CO:!wl?USSION' S
INFORMATION.
Chmn. Ketz stated this will be discussed at the February 4, 1992
meeting.
E. MEMORANDUM RZG:tu.~DI~JG A.N-:,.::;.TICLE FROM LCS A.:~GELES TH.LES FOR THE
PLA.NNHTG CO:MlUSSION' S INFORii.L~TI01:J.
Chmn. Ketz stated the article discussed the combating of noise with
noise.
F. PLAl~?IIiG DEPA..~TMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF SEPTE~•J3ER 1991.
Receive and File.
Receive and File.
H. CITY COUNCIL MI~U'T:1:S 0:,.0 OC'l'OBER S, 1991.
Receive and File.
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COMJ.U SSICNER ITEMS
h K t t d 11 1 1 t , , d. h k. C mm. e z reques e sma ot ~ayou s, 1.nc_:.1 1.ng a .ouse, par 1.ng
and turning radi~s off of a 1 0' alley, 70' lot. Comm. Di Monda
asked the status of required landscaping at Constantine's Detailing
on Pacific -Coast Highway, to which Mr. Schubach stated an amendment
had been fil ed, with landscaping !:Jeing started aft-=r that date.
Comm. Di Monda said the g reenbelt. pa:cking lot issue has been
included in the City Council's Consent Calendar, stating this item
should not have ~een included. This item hc.s been sent back,
resulting in the earliest Commission review would be February 1992,
a year's lapse since the Commission's first review. He requested
the Commission direct Staff to contact the City Manager in writing,
requesting fast action of t ~e se particular item. No objection, so
ordered. Comm. Marks suggested both this subject and "Beach Drive"
be presented at the Joint Meeting.
12 P.C.Minutes 11/7/9)
Comm. Di Monda, regarding emissions regulations concerning body
shops, felt the following information should be forwarded to the
City Attorney: the City is allowed to have more restrictive
ordinances of which the South Coast District Board must enforce, if
asked by the City of Hermosa Beach. Also, if the City wishes to
have an ordinance more strict that the A.Q.M.D. 's, at the City's
request, they must assist the City in ordinance adoption. Mr. Lee
stated that though the language notes that stricter standards may
be set, it does provide for a conflict and preemption provision,
allowing for questions that can be raised by applicants if stricter
standards are set. Comm. Di Monda suggested the Commission start
by requesting the A.Q.M.D.'s assistance.
Chmn. Ketz asked how parked storage trailers can be eliminated, to
which Mr. Schubach stated a complaint on behalf of the Commission
will be submitted to the Building Department expressing its
concern, the zoning code is enforced on a complaint basis. The
Commission requested a complaint be issued to the City Manager.
Comm. Di Monda and Chmn. Ketz discussed zoning for body shops.
The Commission decided this issue should be reviewed. Mr. Lee
discussed the constitutional problems associated with this issue,
urging caution in implementing new zoning codes. The Commission
requested Staff review how other cities regulate body shops.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmm. Ketz, to adjourn at
11:07 P.M. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the .Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of November 7,
1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairman
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 1991, AT 7 :00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chrnn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Merl.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Chrnn. Ketz
None
Ken Robertson, Associate Planner,
F. Paul Corneal, Building Inspector,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Mel, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Resolution P.C. 91-57, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22916 AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 228 ARDMORE AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 91-60, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(b) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN
ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF
REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 2010 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Resolution P.C. 91-63, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AMENDMENT TO AUTHORIZE AUTO SALES IN CONJUNCTION WITH AUTO-
MOTIVE REPAIR, AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 825
PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, BUGGE BUILDERS.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Ms. June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, commented she supports Agenda
Item 10. She was informed by Chmn. Ketz that agenda items must be
discussed in order, not during "Communications".
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PUBLIC HEARING
LEGAL DETERMINATION HEARING TO DETERMINE THE LEGALITY OF AN
EXISTING DUPLEX LOCATED AT 2104 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Recommended Action: To determine said property to be legal for a
single-family dwelling and require conversion of the existing
duplex to a single-family dwelling.
Inspector Corneal, representing the Building Department, discussed
the zoning history and information pertaining to this property,
stating the change from single to dual dwelling was not done
through permit documentation, al though completed many years ago.
Additionally, the dishwashers and an electrical panel are in
substandard condition. Removal of one kitchen and installation of
an interior stairway are recommended to accomplish the requested
conversion to a single-family dwelling. Comm. Marks stated the
property dimensions on the drawing supplied to the Commission are
inaccurate and requested drawing accuracy. Mr. Corneal stated the
Assessor's map was utilized. Comm. Marks and Mr. Corneal discussed
the actual footage of the land and building. Comm. Merl and Mr.
Corneal discussed the fact that the property owner had previously
signed a deed restriction in 1981.
Public Hearing was opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:10 p.m.
Mr. John ~oodwin, 2104 Monterey Blvd., stated at the time of his
purchase 1.n 1968, he was told the property was a nonconforming
duplex. He gave his experience history in dealing with the City as
a result of the construction of a bedroom over the garage, his
signing of an "inaccurate" deed restriction, an evicted tenant's
complaints against him and the problems, legal fees and other
costs relating to his efforts to retain his duplex as a duplex.
He asked that the application be approved, allowing him to retain
the duplex, not requiring conversion to a single dwelling. Chmn.
Ketz and Comms. Merl and Di Monda discussed the one-dwelling
building permit and deed restriction form signed by Mr. Goodwin,
who explained these forms were misinterpretations, signed by him
out of frustration and lack of an attorney being present. The
property assessor's records, permit requirements, Mr. Goodwin's
previous tax returns, property usage and the existence of
neighboring duplexes were discussed with Comms. Merl and Marks.
Comm. Di Monda asked about the research conducted to obtain
variance records, to which Mr. Corneal outlined his research
efforts. Comm. Di Monda discussed the disqualification of the lot
for two units under the old law resulting from it's being under 30
feet with Mr. Goodwin, with Mr. Goodwin questioning the measure-
ments and requirement. Mr. Corneal stated an inspection had
previously been requested and denied by Mr. Goodwin, to which he
disagreed, stating he had repeatedly made his home available for
inspection of which was never performed.
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Mr. Gustoff Verner, 2026 Monterey Blvd., stated Mr. Goodwin
good neighbor who improves the entire neighborhood as
maintaining his own property in excellent condition.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:46 p.m.
J.S a
well
Comms. Marks requested accurate information as to property building
location. Comm. Merl stated the property usage is the basic
question, noting the documents state "single-family dwelling",
commenting the Commission must be concerned with the legal use of
the property, to which Chmn. Ketz agreed. Comm. Di Monda discussed
the purchase history of the property and lack of legal conversion
with Mr. Goodwin.
MOTION by Chmn. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Merl, to approve Staff's
recommendation and determine the property is a legal single-family
dwelling.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
CON 91-5/PDP 91-7 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22886, AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT
143 MANHATTAN AVENUE (CONTINUED FROM SEPTEMBER 17, 1991 MEETINGS)
Recommended Action:
amendment.
To approve said Conditional Use Permit
Assoc. Planner Robertson stated the recommendation was based upon
the understanding additional, detailed renderings would be received
from the applicant, which if not received, the recommendation is
for continuance. Previously, the Commission stated concern and
requested clarification for architectural features, side yard
level, ground floor bedroom and interior stairway. Mr. Robertson
noted revisions have been submitted raising the ground floor and
exterior feature description, but has not addressed changing the
ground floor plan. Staff feels this ground-floor • plan is not
inconsistent with ones previously approved.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz. at 7:56 p.m.
Mr. Ron Riggs, 143 Manhattan Avenue, stated he could not afford
another art rendering, but has given a revised plan to the
Commission.
Mr. B. Barsoum, project architect, discussed changes made to the
decorative materials, costs, and landscaping. Comm. Marks noted
his feeling that this is a three-story building and discussed the
grading from the street to the alley with Mr. Barsoum, establishing
a 3-foot difference. Messrs. Riggs and Barsoum noted their con-
fusion as to what the Commission is requesting prior to approval.
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Comm. Di Monda noted objection to creating a retaining wall,
setting a precedent, suggesting the plans might be flipped to
alleviate this problem. Mr. Riggs objected to this idea, as well
as any changes to the downstairs area, while agreeing to changes in
grading and landscaping requirements, with Mr. Barsoum's
concurrence, after discussion with Comm. Di Monda. Comms. Marks
and Di Monda objected to a raised grade, retaining wall and the
quality of the drawings provided and requested new concise, clear,
accurate drawings be submitted to the Commission. Mr. Riggs
explained the efforts he and Mr. Barsoum have made trying to comply
with the Commission's requests and requested clear definition in
order to receive Commission approval. Chmn. Ketz felt the issues
should be clearly addressed to alleviate any misunderstanding.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:28 p.m.
Comms. Marks and Di Monda responded to the request for clarity by
stating: (l) submitting architectural renderings for review by the
Comrntssion, (2) resolve the potential of a downstairs rental unit,
(3) minimization of retaining walls, (4) window-size indication and
more detail on elevations, and (5) accurate and internally
consistent set of plans. Comm. Merl concurred with concerns
relating to the downstairs configuration and the retaining wall.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to continue this
application to allow the applicant the opportunity to address the
issues in question and to respond to the Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
A break was taken from 8:26 to 8:40 p.m.
CON 85-15 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR AN ADDITION OF
A MEZZANINE LEVEL TO AN EXISTING FOUR-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1107 LOMA
DRIVE.
Recommended Action:
amendment.
To approve said Conditional Use Permit
Assoc. Planner Robertson stated Staff is recommending approval,
subject to conditions, defining the building and zoning requirement
history, and explained the requested building additions. Staff is
recommending the exterior stucco and windows match the existing
structure and the decks be widened to 7 feet to bring open space up
to code, noting the addition is less than 50% and may be approved
with the 5 '4" decks. Comm. Marks discussed parking requirements
with Mr. Robertson
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:45 p.m.
Mr. Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Ste. 300, architect, stated
the four owners have agreed to the building changes, disagreed with
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the open space (deck) area requirement and definition of "open
space" and stated the building height would not be increased above
the roof peak. He explained the excellent construction and stress
control of the original construction of the building, stating the
addition would "build onto" this original construction. Comm.
Marks discussed agreement of the owners, egress and footing/wall
compensation with Mr. Compton.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:58 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda agreed with Mr. Compton regarding open space
adjacent to a living area is more valuable than in other areas and
felt the Commission should review this concept in the immediate
future.
MOTION by Chmn. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve
Staff's recommendation to approve the modification to the
Conditional Use Permit, except that no change to the width of the
mezzanine deck is required.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coffllns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CUP 91-20 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE SALE OF THE
SANDWICHES AND SIDE DISHES IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING BAKERY
LOCATED AT 517 PIER AVENUE, HERMOSA CAFE.
Recommended Action: To approve Conditional Use Permit amendment.
Assoc. Planner Robertson stated Staff is recommending approval,
subject to conditions, and denial of the sale of side salads. He
described the site accommodations and business, including defining
"snacks", amount of display space allowed, the requirement that
food be preprepared, and no waitresses or menus utilized to
alleviate progression into a restaurant.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:05 p.m.
Mr. Jim Lienghot, 517 Pier Avenue, described his background, his
employment history, his current bakery business and his desire to
increase the menu to his customers. He stated most of his
customers are "walk-in". Chmn. Ketz asked if he agreed with all
the conditions, to which he replied, "Yes."
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Di Monda asked Staff about the parking requirements of this
business and restaurants. Mr. Robertson stated the requirements
are based upon square footage, not the number of tables. Chmn.
Ketz and Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Robertson discussed the "snack"
definition vs. "a meal", and display case requirements. Comm.
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Merl requested the Commission be open regarding the type of food to
be served as long as the display area is less that 50%, commenting
the issue of floor space vs. square footage to establish parking
requirements should be reviewed. Comm. Di Monda observed that
general parking is available to this and other local area
businesses, and felt the Commission should address this parking
situation in the future. Comm. Marks established with Mr. Lieng-
hot that his primary business is baking.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve Staff
recommendation, except Condition 3 be changed from "meat and cheese
filled croissants and baguettes" to "sandwiches" and the percentage
of display window be changed to 50%.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CUP 91-23/PARK 91-4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT AND
PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW OUTDOOR DINING, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 37 14TH STREET, LA PLAYITA.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit
amendment and Parking Plan, and adopt the Environmental Negative
Declaration.
Assoc. Planner Robertson stated La Playita recently moved to this
new location and the Staff Environmental Review Committee had
recommended a mitigated environmental negative declaration with
four measures. Applicant has requested expansion with an outdoor
patio, four striped parking spaces, use of City right-of-way for
landscaping and bicycle parking. Staff recommends out-door dining
be limited to from 9:30 a.m. to sunset, management is responsible
for noise level, landscaping be submitted for approval and the
maximum area possible be used for bicycle parking. Staff also
believes a finding can be made for less than required parking
because of the location, which results in a high incidence of
walk-in or bicycle traffic. Comm. Di Monda questioned the hours of
operation, noting other local restaurants open earlier and
discussed the proposed area location with Mr. Robertson
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:25 p.m.
Mr. Harold Cohen, applicant and restaurant owner, introduced his
architect, Larry Peha, who discussed parking and bicycle racks with
Comm. Marks. Comm. Di Monda established Mr. Cohen would prefer to
open the outside patio at 8~30 a.m. with landscaping in the form of
colored flowers and a tree. Chmn. Ketz established the applicant
had read and agrees with the CUP conditions.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:29 p.m.
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MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm Marks, to approve CUP
91-13/PARK 91-4 with a change in Condition 2, changing opening
business hours from 9:30 to 8:30 a.m.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
STAFF ITEMS
MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF A BASEMENT.
Comm. Marks noted the definition of basement should be discussed at
length, by the Commission, looking at the Los Angeles Zoning Code,
to assist the Commission in determining and agreeing upon a correct
zoning and third-floor definition. Chmn. Ketz requested this item
be presented in the November 19, 1991 agenda.
DRAWING FROM AN AREA RESIDENT REGARDING THE BILTMORE SITE.
Chmn. noted this proposes a restaurant built over a restricted
beach. Received and Filed.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Chmn. Ketz noted the meeting date of Thursday, November 7, 1991
agenda is filled. Comm. Di Monda asked if an emissions ordinance
for the City of Hermosa Beach is progressing, to which Mr.
Robertson responded City Council, Tuesday, October 22, 1991, will
consider the Commission's request to direct Staff to study this
issue.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 24, 1991.
Receive and File.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Merl requested Staff be directed to investigate (l) the issue
of open space and directly accessible open space to assure
usability, compatibility and livability, comparing other cities
ordinances, and ( 2) restaurant parking requirement determination
guidelines. He stated customer volume should be the critical
factor, to which Comm. Di Monda agreed. Mr. Robertson noted the
pending ballet measure which may enable a more comprehensive review
of residential standards. Comm. Di Monda didn't feel the ballot
should delay or effect open space apportionment. Comm. Di Monda
also asked if Staff would be presenting the 50% remodel ordinance
to the Commission. Mr. Robertson was not aware of any such plans.
Comm. Di Monda noted dissatisfaction with the current ordinance,
discussing this ordinan~e and value determination with Chmn. Ketz.
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MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to adjourn at
9:48 P.M. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of October 15,
1991.
~b~ Secretary
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON OCTOBER 1, 1991, AT 7 :00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by comm. Di Monda.
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, and Chmn. Katz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Chmn. Katz introduced and welcomed Commissioner Rod Merl.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks to approve the Consent
Calendar items with the change as noted in Resolution P.C. 91-55:
Minutes of the September 17, 1991 Planning commission meetings.
chmn. Ketz pulled Resolution P.C. 91-55, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL
USER PERMIT TO ALLOW SNACK SHOP ( FEEBEE 'S YOGURT CAFE) WITHIN A RETAIL
DESIGNATED SPACE IN THE HERMOSA PAVILION, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL
NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY #114, for discussion.
she stated when the commission made the Resolution, it was specific in stating
this is "restaurant use," not "snack shop." This Resolution shall be changed
to read: "······TO ALLOW RESTAURANT (FEEBEE'S YOGURT CAFE) ..... "
Resolution P.C. 91-56, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, OF INTENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DIRECT
STAFF TO INVESTIGATE THE IMPACT OF VAPORS AND ODORS RELEASED FROM BUSINESSES
AND TO STUDY POSSIBLE METHODS TO MONITOR AND CONTROL THESE VAPORS AND ODORS
WHETHER THROUGH ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS OR THROUGH AMENDMENT OF EXISTING
LAWS.
Resolution P.C. 91-58, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #20755 FOR
A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM SUBDIVISION FOR A PROJECT AT 345 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 91-59, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MURAL SIGN WHICH EXCEEDS SIGN AREA
REQUIREMENTS AT 1242 HERMOSA AVENUE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, and Chmn. Ketz
None
comm. Merl
None
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBL I C
Mr . Ro be rt Ut ivi ch, 1559 Pacific coast Highway, referred to the September 3,
1991 meeting, asked what had been done about Round Table Pizza's violation of
parking codes, and if Round Table Pizza is required to have a CUP. Mr. Schu-
bach stated Round Table Pizza has submitted a revised parking plan, which is
legal and will resolve its parking problem, and that no CUP is required.
Mr. Roy McNalley, 207 29th street, thanked the Commission and invited the
members, staff and attendees to a Bar-B-Q at his house Saturday and Sunday,
October 5 & 6, 1991.
PUBLIC HEARING
CON 9 1-4/PDP 91-6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
i22916, AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT, PLAN FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 228 ARDMORE
AVENU E {continued f r om 8/6 & 9/3/91 meetings).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and Vesting
Tentative Parcel Map.
Mr. Schubach stated this item had been continued in order that staff could
further investigate prior existence of a curb-cut and to allow the commission
to determine the number of s~~=ies. staff found a curb cut had been closed off
and is satisfied of the previous existence and does not believe the extra
parking space is required. The applicant has also addressed the commission's
concerns.
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:07 p.m.
Mr. Ivars Janieks, 2453 silver strand, property owner, discussed the lack of
balcony off the living room with Comm. Di Monda, who stated the Commission is
trying to obtain usable open space. comm. Di Monda stated the drawings were
very completed and asked that the balcony-surface material be specified, to
which Mr. Janieks agreed they would be in the final plans.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:10 p.m.
comm. Marks questioned a two-story building with only one means of exit. Mr.
Janieks stated it is a two-story building and meets requirements. Chmn. Ketz,
Comms. Marks Di Monda and Mr. Janieks discussed nonfilling of the lot, adjacent
grades, building requirements and "floor" determination. Chmn. Ketz and Mr.
Schubach determined this is a building code issue, requiring the Building
Director's interpretation. Mr. Schubach stated the Director would probably
consider the garage/bedroom level a "basement." Comm. Merl stated the code is
an issue of grade rather than usage, to which Mr. Schubach agreed and discussed
the upcoming initiative and the November election. Mr. Lee noted that any
building code violation would be noted at the time the plans are submitted for
plan check, with appropriate actions being taken, noting the particulars of the
commission's concerned.
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comm. Di Monda discussed the problems of grades raised and lots being filled
vs. this in-the-ground instance. He noted the question by Comm. Marks should
be addressed by the Building Dept.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Merl, to approve staff's
recommendation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CUP 91-15
Couuns. Di Monda, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
CoDDn. Marks
None
None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW AN AUTO REPAIR
BUSINESS WITH AUTO SALES, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AT 825 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, BUGGEY BUILDERS.
Recommended Action: To approve said request Conditional Use Permit and adopt
the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated staff recommends approval subject to conditions. He
described the location, buildings and operation, noting that an approval
condition is that the garage may only be used in conjunction with auto sales.
Mr. Schubach described past business history, along with previous city council
actions, noting current management has adhered to all requirements of the
Municipal Code. staff had added a condition limiting the size of the display
area and prohibiting cars for sale being parked in customer, employee or public
right-of-way parking, and a condition requiring the wooden fence be maintained
in satisfactory condition or be replaced by a 6' decorative block wall. staff
believes the proposed use meets the CUP'S original intent.
Comm. Di Monda noted the absence of a sprinkler system. Mr. Schubach affirmed
a sprinkler system currently exists; if not, it will be added, noting it must
be kept in operational condition. Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach agreed to add
to Item 18 area maintained devoid of weeds and landscaped area shall be
maintained.
Comm. Merl questioned the presence of spray painting activity, to which Mr.
Schubach stated, "No."
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:25 p.m.
Mr. Rob Pervis, manager, 825 Pacific coast Highway, stated a sprinkler system
is in and working, set on a timer. Chmn. Ketz asked if he has seen and agree
with all the conditions, to which he responded, yes, except for a question
regarding Item 9, customer and Employee Parking. He stated adequate employee
and customer parking has been provided. He questioned the ability of the city
of Hermosa Beach to state where the employees can park and requested clarifi-
cation. Chmn. Ketz stated the commission likes to assure enough on-site
parking to not impact the streets. He stated their business hours are from
8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and business streets are fairly clear. chmn. Ketz and
Mr. Pervis discussed street parking and neighbors' concerns.
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Mr. Jim Weber, 730 8th Place, 722 8th Place, property owner, noted the wooden
fence is ready to fall down and asked if the City checks on the conditions or
does he check and call the City? He noted the improvements to the property
made by the new owner. Mr. Schubach stated regular checks are made in the
course of CUP enforcement. Chmn. Ketz noted that Mr. Weber may call to inform
the Planning Dept. of any violation. Mr. Weber requested a copy of the CUP.
Mr. Schubach agreed to furnish a copy for Mr. Weber's pick-up after 10-15-91.
Ms. Maryann Wright, 731 8th street, asked why the business was allowed to be
there, describing the parking problems in her area and the noise generated by
the business. she talked to Mr. Nick Haas, property owner, at midnight. she
complained that business owners state they have gone to the Planning commission
when she complains to them. She discussed cottages that had previously been on
the property and the smallness of the lots. Mr. Schubach stated a CUP for auto
sales currently exists, and explained the general policy.
Mr. Rob Pervis, 825 Pacific Coast Highway, rebutted by stating if he is told
something is wrong with the fence, it will be fixed within hours on t~e same
day. He explained Mr. Haas is the property owner, but has nothing to do with
the business. He is not aware of the other problems expressed, explained the
problems with opening the business and his hours of operation. comm. Marks
asked about the hours of operations. Mr. Pervis stated they are 8:00 a.m. to
6:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Saturday, closed
Sunday.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:38 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda referenced a previous auto detailing business of which the
commission required landscaping and asked why landscaping wasn't considered at
this location. Mr. Schubach explained this is an amendment to an existing CUP,
but landscaping could be added if the commission wished. Comm. Merl suggested
landscaping be discussed with the applicant.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:39 p.m.
Mr. Rob Pervis asked where the landscaping would be located. Comm. Di Monda
stated Mr. Schubach will furnish suggested and discussed previous typical
landscaping requirements. Due to the presence of a sidewalk, the landscaping
would need to be on the asphalt portion, not interfering with the fence.
Mr. Schubach suggested planter boxes. Comm. Di Monda stated landscaping would
be in the lot, explaining barriers are not desirable. Mr. Pervis stated
willingness to landscape.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:42 p.m.
MOTION by comm. Merl, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve this CUP with the
conditions recommended by staff, plus an additional condition that additional
landscaping along Pacific coast Highway as recommended by the Planning Director
and planting of ground area between the sidewalk and the street along 8th Place
be added.
4 P.C.Minutes 10/1/91
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
BEARINGS
conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
NR 91-5 AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(B) TO ALLOW A FIRST FLOOR REMODEL
AND SECOND FLOOR ADDITION TO CONVERT A NONCONFORMING DUPLEX TO A SINGLE FAMILY
DWELLING RESULTING IN GREATER TRAN 50% EXPANSION AT 2010 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Mr. Schubach noted supplemental information had been received from a neighbor
states a division between property results in a view which would be blocked by
this addition. The neighbor, Ms. Miller, requested this item be continued due
to her illness and inability to attend this meeting. Mr. Schubach explained
the history, requested building 64% addition and consolidation, and the basis
for nonconformity. He questioned the zero (0) front yard, but stated this is
not unusual, nor does it have a detrimental impact in the neighborhood.
Mr. Schubach noted request approval by the commission would also require a
finding that the goals, intent and purpose of Article 13 are being met. He
discussed plan corrections, including recommendation of conditions that (1)
all plumbing connections to the existing kitchen and separate stairway access
be removed, (2) modification of final plans so that lot coverage does not
exceed 65%, and (3) correction of the second floor space which encroaches into
the setback. He further discussed a front "yard" second level deck with
railing encroaching into the front yard setback.
comm. Merl asked if staff had discussed the lot coverage issue with the
applicant. Mr. Schubach affirmed this, stating plan revision will not be
difficult, and Staff will assure the plans compliance.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:51 p.m.
Mr. Mike Ludwig, 1050 Ardmore, stated he has no problem with the corrections
and the deck will be removed above the entryway.
Public Hearing was closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:52 p.m.
comm. Di Monda pointed out plan problems, discussing zero front yard and the
extent of building vs. original structure and structure reinforcement and
setback relocation. He stated the commission is still awaiting a Monterey
issue decision and, therefore, cannot agree with Staff's recommendation.
Chmn. Ketz discussed with comm. Di Monda the ordnance and safe guards.
Public Hearing was opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:58 p.m.
Mr. Mike Ludwig stated the plans appeared to have a lot of changes, but that
this was not true: existing windows are being replaced, the basic structure
5 P.C.Minutes 10/1/91
will remain intact and closets removed. chmm. Ketz and Comm. Di Monda
questioned the drawings vs. what Mr. Ludwig stated was to be done, noting a
number of inconsistencies. Comm. Marks discussed the set back requirement and
existing patio with Mr. Ludwig and Mr. Schubach. comms. Di Monda and Marks,
Messrs. Schubach and Ludwig discussed the exterior stairs, which are to be
removed. Mr. Ludwig stated he was remodeling to economize, rather than buy a
new house. comm. Di Monda felt with the amount of construction, a set back
should be required, to which Mr. Ludwig disagreed.
Public Hearing was closed by chmn. Ketz at 8:09 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by cbmn. Ketz, to continue this item until
November 19, 1991 to allow the applicant the opportunity to revise and clarify
the proposed plans.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Merl and Chmn. Ketz
Comms. Di Monda, Marks
Hone
Hone
Comm. Marks stated the applicant should acknowledge the proper set back,
suggesting the applicant resubmit the plans within guidelines.
comm. Di Monda objected to the zero set back due to the work extent, having
driven by the property and noting adjacent properties were set back
significantly.
Comm. Merl felt a clear sense of the proposal is necessary, expressing concern
that a portion of the building is on public right-of-way. Comm. Di Monda
stated the commission is not aware of the city council's future action relating
to set backs on Monterey, guessing the intent is to assure buildings have set
backs. comm. Merl reiterated his desire to see a clear sense of the proposal
and alternatives, and give an opportunity for the neighbor(s) to speak. Comm.
Di Monda discussed alternatives. chmn. Ketz commented upon the extensive
remodel.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to deny allowance for a
first floor remodel and second floor addition.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, and Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Merl
Hone
Hone
MEMORANDUM REGARDING TBE FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DATE IN NOVEMBER.
Chmn. Ketz stated staff requested the meeting date be changed due to the city
Council's unavailability. This meeting date is changed to Thursday, November
7, 1991, to begin at 7:30 p.m.
6 P.C.Minutes 10/1/91
PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF AUGUST 1991.
Chmn. Ket2 commented upon the new format comparison of 1990 and 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 10, 1991.
Comms. Marks and Merl and Mr. Schubach discussed the budget.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Marks asked about the status of the the Ocean Drive Parking Plan.
Mr. Schubach noted this will be on the agenda~ however, the Public works Dept.
Schedule forwarded to staff notes presentation to the city council on February
11, 1992 and the Planning Commission thereafter. comm. Marks found this
unsatisfactory.
Comm. Di Monda commented upon the quality of drawings being presented to the
Commission and suggested policy be revised to clearly state a signed survey, a
color rendering, photographs of adjacent buildings and call out of exterior
finishes are required, to which Mr. Schubach stated this policy is being
changed and will be brought back as a staff item.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to adjourn at 8:34 P.M.
No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of October 1, 1991.
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7 P.C.Minutes 10/1/91
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON SEPTEMBER 17, 1991, AT 7 :00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by comm. Peirce.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano and Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant city Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Peirce to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Minutes of the
following change:
chicken grease."
September 3, 1991 Planning commission meetings with the
Page 9, section E, " ... will emit combustion byproducts and
Resolution P.C. 91-41, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO REQUIRE RELOCATION
IMPACT REPORTS FOR MOBILE HOME PARK CONVERSIONS OR CLOSURES AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Resolution P.C. 91-50, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION
13-7(B) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 248 27TH STREET.
Resolution P.C. 91-54, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AUTHORIZING AN
AUTO BODY REPAIR AND PAINTING ESTABLISHMENT AND ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION
FOR 1231 PROSPECT AVENUE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce and stifano
. None
chmrn. Ketz
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mr. Richard Sullivan, no address given, stated typical CUP, section 3 states
CUPS are subject to review, if needed. He stated differences exist for body
shops within the city and requested a review of the CUP -for Felder's Auto,
requesting the Planning commission review the lack of standardization in
issuing CUPs. Mr. Sullivan then defined what he felt were the differences.
He feels CUPs should be standardized. chmn. Ketz suggested Mr. Sullivan write
a letter to the Planning commission staff outlining his complaints, to which he
agreed.
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PUBLIC HEARING
CON 89-5 REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #20755 FOR
A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 345 MANHATTAN AVENUE, AKA 120 4TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said Vesting Tentative Parcel Map.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff is recommending approval of a request to reinstate a
Tentative Map which had been previously approved, but is currently expired.
The condominium uni ts have been completed in conformance with Condominium
Requirements and Standards and are currently rented.
comm. Di Monda asked if the building was constructed in compliance with the ,99
CUP, to which Mr. Schubach responded, "Yes."
Public Hearing was opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:12 p.m.
Mr. Perry Herwood, 2-unit condominium property owner, stated he was not aware
of the CUP expiration, having been misinformed by the firm he had hired to
complete packaging the project and to complete the associated paperwork. He is
now resubmitting the parcel map for approval. comm. Marks discussed with Mr.
Herwood the responsibilities of the firm hired and the problems experienced.
Comm. Peirce discussed the map's inaccuracies with Mr. Herwood, establishing
that it was not a final map. Mr. Herwood stated the condominiums are being
leased rather than sold due to the bad real estate market.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:17 p.m.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Peirce, to approve staff's
recommendation.
AYES:
HOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
Hone
None
None
CUP 91-5/PDP 91-7 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22886, AND
PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 143 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To approve said request conditional Use Permit and
Tentative Parcel Map.
Mr. Schubach stated staff submitted to the commission supplemental information,
revised plans which indicated a north elevation and less than 65% lot coverage.
Therefore, Staff recommends changes in the recommended conditions as follows:
2A regarding the lot coverage, and 2B, first sentence, regarding submittal of a
north elevation. He stated an alternative of continuing until October 1, 1991
would allow the Commission to review the revised plans. Mr. Schubach then
discussed the lot, landscaping, proposed structures and the staircase within
the structure, noting the basement complies with code, copies of which had been
provided to the Commission. staff recommends the revised ·landscape plans be
approved by the Planning Director. Mr. Schubach asked that the project
architect explain the staircase plan during this meeting to eliminate the need
for revised plans.
2 P.C. Minutes 9-17-91
comm. Marks noted the two building are detached, noted an error in the basement
plans, questioned the first story bedrooms in Units A and B, noting this area
could be easily turned into rental units, and questioned the grade around the
basement. Mr. Schubach responded the Building Director had assured him the
basement is in compliance with Code, commenting the Basement definition is very
flawed. Chmn. Ketz and comm. Marks discussed the need for two exits from the
second and roof deck, including necessary stairway height and access. Mr. Lee
stated this issue is a Building code issue, and not need be addressed for
approval of this CUP. comm. Peirce stated the Building Department does not
make Code interpretations, but rather the Planning Department. Comm. Di Monda
agreed and discussed basement interpretation associated impacts, suggesting the
issue be continued until new correct drawings are submitted.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:33 p.m.
Mr. B. Barsoum, project architect, explained recently issues had been brought
forward, leaving little time to revise the plans. He noted the Code
interpretation is the Building Department's, not his. He stated the code did
not define whether a basement is from an adjacent existing grade or finish
grade. Mr. Barsoum also discussed the neighboring properties' grades. comm.
Marks discussed the drawings' errors relating to the stairways with Mr.
Barsoum, who explained the stairway access plans and agreed to correct the
errors. comm. Marks noted two more elevations of the buildings needed to be
incorporated. Comm. Di Monda discussed the Uniform Building code and Hermosa
Beach standards with Mr. Barsoum, stating many questions still need to be
answered.
Mr. Ron Riggs, applicant and property owner, explained the plan changes were
made within a short period of time, and requested expediting of required
actions since his loan application is pending the commission's approval. He
wj,shed to respond to the commission's requested as soon as possible. chmn.
Ketz asked if the downstairs bathroom could be revised, to which Mr. Riggs was
opposed since he will be living in one unit and selling the other. He asserted
no "bootleg" operation would be possible. Mr. Riggs stated he felt Mr. Lee had
already answered the elevation issue and requested expansion. Mr. Lee stated
he would defer to the Planning Commission's request to have this matter
continued and bring back an analysis of definitions for basements and what is
within the Planning commission's authority to decide at the next meeting.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:49 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz, Comm. Peirce and Mr. Schubach discussed the time frame of one month
to allow plan preparation and review. Comm. Peirce suggested the basement
issue be discussed during the commissioners Items section.
MOTION by comm. Peirce, seconded by comm. stifano, to continue this matter for
one month to October 15, 1991 Planning commission Meeting to allow corrections
to the plans made, and to get a clarification on the basement issue.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
.)
ABSENT:
Coumts. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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CUP 91 14 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SNACK SHOP-YOGURT SHOP, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY, i114. FEEBEE'S YOGURT CAFE.
Recommended Action: To approve said conditional Use Permit and adopt the
Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach said staff recommends approval of the requested CUP, describing
the business and location. He stated the Environmental Review committee
recommended a Negative Declaration. Mr. Schubach noted an nonpermitted 150 sq.
ft. addition to the leasing office should be corrected at the time of this
project. staff is recommending the addition plus any created deficiency be
incorporated into the review of the overall parking plan. The applicant is
requesting that yogurt, soup, sandwiches, strudel be included, which requires a
determination that items other than yogurt are additional snack items is
necessary. Mr. Schubach then gave a definition of "snacks" and "snack shops"
as relates to parking requirements and stated staff believes the emphasis of
this business for snack food and quick service with adequate parking to provide
for any increase in business. The parking plan will need be modified as the
shopping center offices are filled to allow for compensation of the overall
parking plan.
Chmn. Ketz and Mr. Schubach discussed the parking requirements of a snack shop
vs. a restaurant. Comm. Marks stated the shop only had one exit door and
commented upon the apparent danger and questioned the illegal 150 sq. ft.
addition. Mr. Schubach stated that was a previous leasing office and should be
cured prior to issuance of approval.
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:58 p.m.
Dee Harris, 1605 Pacific coast Highway, suite 209, stated the illegal footage
occurred prior to her employment at the site. she discussed her being made
aware of the problem and her efforts to comply with requirements, stating her
belief that parking should be addressed at a later date. She discussed the
limited menu and seating and requested the shop be held under the retain
parking regulations. Comm. Marks discussed the illegal 150 sq ft addition with
Ms. Harris.
Public Hearing was closed by chmn. Ketz at 8:03 p.m.
comm. Marks noted the commission should let Ms. Harris the parking situation
obligation at the present time, with review at a future time. chmn. Ketz noted
her problem with interpretation of a shop that sells various foods as a snack
bar, al though she has no problem with this particular shop. comm. Di Monda
noted as other spaces are rented the parking requirements will be revised;
however, to be consistent, the higher use of eight spaces should be utilized.
Comm. Marks and Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed state Law and safety
requirements regarding the number of exits required. Comm. Di Monda recommended
that signed drawings be requested. comm. stifano discussed the restroom
requirements with Mr. Schubach.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to approve CUP 91-14 as
restaurant use, with the addition that drawings are signed by a person licensed
to practice architecture or one of the accepted engineering disciplines prior
to submittal.
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AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
HEARINGS
CUP 90-8 --REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 1018 HERMOSA AVENUE,
COMEDY MAGIC CLUB.
Recommended Action: To postpone the review to August 11, 1992.
Mr. Schubach noted the applicant has not executed approved CUP. staff
recommends continuation until completion of the expansion so that staff will
have something to review, at which time the CUP would be activated.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 8:10 p.m.
Public Hearing was closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:10 p.m.
MOTION by comm. stifano, seconded by comm. Peirce, to postpone this review
until August 11, 1992.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A MURAL SIGN WHICH EXCEEDS THE ALLOWABL.E SIGN AREA AT
1242 HERMOSA AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To approve subject request.
Mr. Schubach stated staff recommends approval subject to conditions that any
sign copy added to the sign be approved by the Planning Director, although the
sample gives no sign copy. Mr. Schubach displayed a miniature of the proposed
sign, stating the mural would be approximately 500 ft. and it is a matter of
the Commission's judgment to determine if the mural is in the character with
the surrounding properties and/or gives the business a promotional advantage.
The Commissioners discussed the lack of any sign copy is on the sample although
stated in the recommendation.
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 8:14 p.m.
Fernando Lamas, 1242 Hermosa Avenue, owner of a men's and women's clothing,
stated no words would be included on the mural. comm. Marks discussed the
depth, quality and maintenance of the proposed mural.
Public Hearing was closed by chmn. Ketz at 8:16 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz felt the mural was not a sign, with comm. Di Monda stating he felt a
mural became a sign when it is representative of a business.
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Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Marks stated the mural was an excellent idea.
MOTION by comm. Marks, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve the request.
AYES:
HOES:
CoDDDs. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, Stifano, Chmn. Ketz
Hone
ABSTAIN: Hone
ABSENT: Hone
RESOLU'rIOH OF INTENT TO STUDY THE PROBLEM OF ODORS AND VAPORS BEING RELEASED
FROM BUSINESSES.
Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Mr. Schubach stated at the September 3, 1991, the Commission expressed concern
regarding odors and vapors. Although agencies currently control emissions,
obnoxious odors are not necessarily controlled. staff recommends adoption of
the Resolution of Intent if the commission wishes further study and suggests
this item be passed to city Council as a consent Item. comm. Di Monda
questioned the wording, "investigate the impact", stating there is a problem
which should be addressed by asking staff to present an ordnance to help
control toxic grease, etc. being released into the atmosphere, to which Mr.
Schubach suggested, "to examine vapors and odors released and to study possible
methods to monitor and control these vapors .... " Comms. stifano and Di Mondo
discussed the inclusion of the fact that the commission recognizes citizen
complaints and other Public Hearings that the state and other ordnances do not
address the problems. An investigation of impact is not the need, rather a
manner of control is necessary. Comm. Peirce suggested a review of other
cities which have had the same problem and review the solutions implemented.
Comm. stifano stated another issue raised was whether or not the study should
be proposed to City Council or immediately begun. Comm. Peirce stated he felt
the staff should start the study. comm. Marks, Di Monda and Chmn. Ketz felt it
should go to city council before staff conducts a study.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:26 P.M.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 8:26 P.M.
Mr. Lee stated he could ask for clarification in terms of the release of vapor
and fumes, asking if the Commission wishes to regulate all types of vapors,
fumes or only noxious, toxic ones. Comm. Marks felt the Resolution should be
narrowed to include only noxious and harmful vapors, using the Air Quality
Board Guidelines.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. stifano, to approve the Resolution
of the Planning commission to recommend to the city council to direct staff to
investigate the impact and odors released from businesses, study possible
methods to monitor and control vapors and odors, whether it is through
enforcement of existing laws or through amendment of existing laws.
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AYES:
NOES:
Connns. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano, Cbmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
STAFF ITEMS
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PUBLIC TELEPHONES AT 635 MONTEREY BOULEVARD, LE MASTERS.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff was directed a memorandum to the City Manager. Staff
has discovered the General services Department is in the process of removing
the telephones and notified General Telephone and the property owner. staff
therefore believed the memorandum was unnecessary, but will prepare it if the
Commission so wishes.
comm. Di Monda requested follow-up on this item. Mr. Schubach said this has
been included in the CUP.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR SEPTEMBER 24, 1991 CITY
COUNCIL MEETING.
Chmn. Ketz stated the agenda item is the appeal of the Planning Commission's
denial of a two-lot subdivision at 596 19th street.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 1 AND 15, 1991.
No comments~
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF AUGUST 27, 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Peirce brought forth the basement issue, discussing fire ··exits and the
associated dangers in exiting. chmn. Retz asked if Public safety has expressed
an opinion on this issue, to which Mr. Schubach stated it hadn't been asked.
Comms. Di Monda and Peirce discussed commission vs. Departmental authority and
responsibilities, as well as finished grade vs. existing grade vs. building
site. Mr. Lee suggested that typically the interpretation the Uniform Building
Code rests with the Building Director, subject to his interpretation, subject
to the Municipal code as a Board of Appeal to interpret building requirements.
Mr. Lee stated application is the commission's purview and suggested amending
the Zoning Code for clarity if the commission so wished. He stated the
Building Code could be amended to provide for local jurisdiction definition and
consistency. Mr. Lee read the zoning Code basement definition, stating it
lacks clarity. comm. Peirce and Mr. Lee discussed the problem of the
Commission's vs. the Building Department's interpretation of what constitutes
and basement and the applicable provisions apply.
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The commission directed Staff to bring this item back before the commission,
agendize it at the appropriate meeting and to make an interpretation as to how
the height is measured from an existing grade, or if the basement is determined
by existing grade and not finished grade, and to include one consistent base-
ment definition.
comm. Marks asked about the status of the ocean Drive parking situation. Mr.
Schubach stated the Public works Director had resigned, resulting in this issue
being "on hold". staff was directed to furnish an answer on this issue at the
next meeting.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to adjourn at 8:49 P.M.
Ho objections~ so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of September 17, 1991.
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Christine Ketz, Cha irman Michae1 ·schub acih , /s ecretary
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON SEPTEMBER 3, 1991, AT 7: 00 P .M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:07 P.M. by Vice-chrnn. Marks.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner stifano.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Di Monda, Peirce, stifano and Vice-chmn. Marks
chmn. Ketz
Also Present: Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Roger Springer; Acting Assistant city Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
With Comms. Di Monda and Peirce abstaining, the following consent calendar
items were approved. No objections, so ordered.
Minutes of the August 20, 1991 Planning commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 91-52, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO
EXTEND OPERATING HOURS AT A RESTAURANT TO INCLUDE BREAKFAST HOURS FROM 6 : 0 0
A.M. TO 11: 00 A.M. AND TO CONTINUE TO AUTHORIZE ON-SITE BEER AND WINE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT, AND A TAKE-OUT WINDOW .ON THE STRAND FOR 4 PIER
AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 91-53, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION qF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AUTO
SALES AT 125 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, THE PARKING PLACE.
Policy statement P.C. 91-2,A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA INTERPRETING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR A
"HALF-LOT" AT 215 4TH STREET IN THE R-3 ZONE, AND TO APPLY INTERPRETATION TO
ALL SIMILAR LOTS WHICH ARE LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF AN ALLEY AND A STREET WITH
THE NARROW PORTION OF THE LOT FRONTING ON THE ALLEY AND THE LONGER SIDE
FRONTING ON THE STREET.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the commission regarding a matter not related to a
public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC BEARING
CON 91-4/PDP 91-6 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22916 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 228 ARDMORE AVENUE (continued from August 6,
1991 meeting),
Recommended Action:
meeting.
To continue to October 1, 1991 Planning Commission
Mr. Schubach stated Staff is recommending the commission continue this CUP to
October 1, 1991 as revisions are required for zoning and previously noted
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concerns compliance. staff suggested an alternate recommendation: approval of
the request by adopting the resolution which includes conditions requiring (1)
revised plans which provide additional guest space be re-submitted for review
and approval, and (2) separate rear access to the second unit be eliminated.
The plans had not complied with Zoning Ordnance Section 1151 and "bootleg"
concerns resulted in previous continuance by the commission. currently, the
applicant has not submitted revised plans and contends the curb-cut existed.
Therefore, he believes the plans need not be modified. Mr. Schubach displayed
aerial photographs, stating staff did not locate a driveway on this property
and a thorough search did not show a previous curb-cut in existence. If no
driveway previously existed, street space lost as a result of driveway
installation must be replaced. If no effort to comply is made by the
applicant, the project should be denied since the state's permit streamlining
act restricts project approval/denial time amount.
comm. stifano asked the manner of previous curb-cut investigation by staff, to
which Mr. Schubach responded two neighbors' letters stating belief that a
curb-cut existed previously had been received by staff.
Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:16 P.M.
Mr. Chris Coale, 217 5th street, owner of 228 Ardmore Ave., presented
photographs of the curb-cut to the commission, stating it is obvious a previous
curb-cut existed. Comms. Peirce and Vice-chmn. Marks reviewed the aerial
photograph provided by Mr. Schubach and discussed the possibility of a previous
curb cut with Mr. Coale. Mr. Coale commented upon his intention to 'resubmit
plans, stating the-listed problems can be solved, but the parking problem
should be exempted due to a previous existing curb-cut. Comm. Di Monda
suggested Mr. Coale obtain the information requested by staff, with staff
continuing to investigate, with the commission continuing the application.
Hearing closed by Vice-chmn. Marks at 7:25 P.M.
comm. Peirce discussed the apparent curb roll-over and questioned the existence
of a driveway on this property, instructing staff to investigate and determine
the existence of a previous driveway or the use of a bootleg driveway, with
comm. Di Monda stating agreement, discussing property-owner's good faith
actions due to nonawareness and apparent lack of enforcement by the City of
Hermosa Beach. Comm. stifano referenced residents' letters stating the
existence of a previous driveway.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. stifano, to continue CON 91-4/PDP
91-6 to October 1, 1991 in order to give the applicant the opportunity to
resubmit plans, providing a cross-section and removal of unit bootleg
potential, and allow staff the time in which to continue their investigation
into the existence of a previous curb-cut.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Stifano
Comm. Peirce
None
Chmn. Ketz
CUP 91-16 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EXISTING AUTO BODY REPAIR AND PAINT
SHOP AT 1231 PROSPECT AVENUE, BUCK'S BODY SHOP.
Recommended Action: To approve said conditional Use Permit.
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Mr. Schubach stated staff recommends CUP approval, subject to conditions: (1)
additional landscaping, ( 2) public ·right-of-way shall not be used for parking
of storing of vehicles, and (3) parking shall be prohibited in any portion of
the front yard setback. Business hours of operation are Monday through Friday
8:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. and 8:00 A.M. to 1:00 P.M. Saturdays. A.Q.M.D. and Fire
Department requirements have been met with the recent installation of a
spot-area paint booth. Mr. Schubach stated complaints have been received
relating to adjacent property and residents' confusion seems to exist regarding
to the adjacent property, another Buck's Auto Body vs. this particular business
location.
comm. stifano compared previous CUP's with the current application, requesting
an explanation of differences, with Mr. Schubach responding CUP'S relate to a
particular site's requirements and, therefore, differences have been allowed by
the Commission in its CUP approval.
comrns. Peirce and stifano and Vice-chmn. Marks discussed angle and tandem
parking with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by vice-chmn. Marks at 7:43 P.M.
Mr. Ray Martin, 1255 corona street, discussed noise limitation vs. increased
business hours, stating his opposition to increased hours of local businesses.
He requested an addition to the CUP requiring the ventilation system be less
obtrusive and that cars be delivered and picked up only during business hours.
Mr. Richard Sullivan, 3rd street, agreed the ventilation system is an
"eye-sore", comparing previous body shop CUPs' requirements with this
application, and requested that Buck's Auto shop not be allowed to operate on
Sundays.
Ms. Edie Weber, 11th Street, discussed previous residents' efforts relating to
fumes and noise from auto shops and requested restriction of noise and vapor
emissions. she discussed both Buck's Auto shops interrelationship and the lack
of a paint booth at either establishment. she stated this shop is being blamed
for emissions from other body shops and suggested demanded compliance from
other body shops, as well.
Dr. Bernard Winikur, 1232 corona street, questioned how the establishment of
this auto shop was allowed with no notification to him, objected to the fumes
and noise emitted by this location, and stated cars are being parked on the
street. He requested rejection of this CUP. Mr. Schubach stated for
clarification the commission cannot change existing CUPS by denying them; only
regulate a CUP to enhance its neighbor-friendliness. Comm. Stifano questioned
the legality of denial of CUP'S by the Commission with Mr. Schubach. Mr.
Springer stated the commission can legally deny a CUP, but the purpose of a CUP
is to restrict the manner of business operation. Mr. springer cautioned
against denial of the CUP since this action would result in nonrestriction of
the business operation.
Ms. Tawny Beaudet, 11th street, stated both Buck's Auto Shops were not adhering
to state laws. She invited the commission to visit the location on Saturday in
order to smell the emitted odors, stating the ventilation equipment is not
effective and that none of the body shops have state required equipment. Mr.
Schubach rebutted that the business had received A.Q.M.D. and Fire Department
approval.
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Mr. Maurice Beaudet, 11th street, said he spent two hours watching the methods
of operation by Buck's Auto Shop and questioned the manner of compliance
assurance by the commission. He discussed Fire code requirements and workers'
safety relating to this shop. Mr. Beaudet stated he stood across the street
from the shop and smelled emitted fumes. Mr. Schubach said CUP condition #14
is requiring odor equipment, which is not currently installed. Mr. Beaudet
also stated he has had discussed with the A.Q.M.D. the mechanics of registering
a complaint.
comms. Peirce and Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the Fire Department and
A.Q.M.D. requirements for business operation, establishing the commission can
ask for stricter requirements.
Mr. Seibra Aslanian, Buck's Auto Body, stated an approved spray booth and air
duct is on site, permits and approvals have been obtained, business is
conducted within the business hours stated with no work being conducted on
Sundays. comm. Di Monda asked the applicant's understanding the of the
requirements, to which Mr. Aslanian stated the shop has always complied with
all requirements. Vice-Chmn. Marks, Comm. Peirce and Mr. Aslanian discussed
the spot-area paint booth operations and filtration.
Mr. Papken Aslanian, owner Buck's Auto Body, stated for 10 years he had no
problems with local residents, but his problems began two years ago when Mr.
Beaudet moved into the area. Mr. Aslanian said he has always been in
compliance with all requirements, but Mr. Beaudet continually complains. Mr.
Aslanian has lost business over the last two years. He stated he has
cooperated with the residents and the city of Hermosa Beach by changing his
building plans. comm. Di Monda questioned Mr. Aslanian' s ability to comply
with the CUP requirements, to which he responded spray painting takes only 3-4
minutes to spray a panel and he does not understand the current complaints.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 8:35 P.M.
Comm. Peirce and Mr. Schubach discussed the lack of a City ordnance requiring
screening of ventilation systems. Comm. Peirce stated the problems appear to
be lack of a proper vapor filtration system for a business next to a resi-
dential area and hours of operation. comm. Di Monda discussed previous CUP
requirements for similar businesses and agreed with Comm. Peirce that operation
hours should be decreased to limit those hours on Saturdays and none on
Sundays. He stated current A.Q.M,D. and Fire Department regulations are
probably not restrictive enough, perhaps further toxic chemical elimination
information can be obtained. comm. stifano agreed. comm. Peirce recommended
the CUP be approved with a high-priority request to staff for investigation and
resubmittal of determination of odor reduction requirement, which would result
in an enacted ordnance implementing and enforcing odor reduction, coordinated
with the A.Q.M.D.'s and Fire Department's requirements. comm. stifano
recommended P.c. Resolution 91-54, Item 14 be eliminated and continuation of
the CUP to allow problem solving. Mr. Schubach stated odor elimination systems
are in existence currently.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve CUP 91-16, P.C.
Resolution 91-54, #23 changing the hours of operation, eliminating all business
hours on Sunday and allowing Saturday operation from 9:00 A.M. until 1:00 P.M.,
adding "the ductwork on top of the building shall be screened from the public
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view". P.C. Resolution 91-54, Item 14 shall be changed to read, "Odor
elimination equipment shall be provided for the building including for the
paint booth and it shall be reviewed and approved by the Planning Director" and
any future city ordnances regarding odors must be in compliance.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, and Peirce
CoDDn. stifano
None
Chmn. Ketz
TEXT 90-11 TEXT AMENDMENT TO REQUIRE RELOCATION IMPACT REPORTS (RIR) FOR
MOBILE HOME PARK CONVERSIONS OR CLOSURES TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF DISPLACING
EXISTING RESIDENTS, AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION (continued from July
16, 1991).
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment and adoption
of the Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated staff had received some last-minute material from the
mobilehome park owners, an attorney and western Mobilehome Association which
has not been yet carefully examined by staff. He also stated the application
had previously been Noticed of the Text Amendment. Staff currently has a
recommendation, as well as alternatives. staff recommends this amendment be
presented to City council amending the zoning Ordnance to add provisions
regarding state-mandated relocation impact as regards mobilehome conversion by
adopting the resolution. Mr. Schubach discussed recommendation modifications
to Proposed ordnance Planning commission Findings and Decisions section 1445,
and methods for appraisal, stating the city of Carson has used appraisals based
upon the depreciated replacement cost approach, which includes no value for
underlying land or location, with limitations. Mr. Schubach emphasized the
decision as to the amount of compensation, including the choice of appraisal
method, would be made in response to a specific closure request, at which time
the City of Carson's pending litigation final decision may set a precedent.
Mr. Schubach presented two alternatives: (l) Receive and file, qetermining RIR
provisions, based upon state law, when a mobilehome park is closed, and ( 2)
exclude trailers and recreational vehicles from compensation. Comm. Peirce
discussed state Law #78-, #1-12 text impact on the cities of Carson and
Hermosa Beach, mobilehome owners and mobilehome park owners with Mr. Schubach.
Comms. Di Monda and stifano discussed the status of the City of Carson's
current litigated cases pertaining to mobilehomes. comm. Di Monda established
Text 90-11 was initiated by the city Manager, referred to the city council
which approved the city Manager's request for study. comm. Di Monda asked
about the similarities between the city of Hermosa Beach's text and the city of
Carson's. Mr. Springer doubted the City of Hermosa Beach would be drawn into
Carson's litigation because, presently, the ordnance has not been enforce with
no person's rights violated. comm. stifano noted section 1447 wording seems to
require a double dip purchase requirement by the landowner when closing a
mobilehome park. The commissioners were in agreement this section should be
changed to eliminate any double dip.
Public Hearing opened by vice-chmn. Marks at 9:10 P.M.
Mr. Steve Anderson, 1334 Parkview Avenue, suite 100, Manhattan Beach,
representing Marineland Mobilehome Park owners, wanted a copy of the staff
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Report. Mr. Anderson stated his purpose was not to threaten with a law suit,
but to make the commission understand economic reality. He then proceeded to
define land value vs. mobilehome value, discussing in-place value, buy-out and
current ability to relocate mobilehomes to other locations. He stated
relocation radius needs further definition and discussed current litigation
status relating to mobilehomes/parks within California. Mr. Anderson objected
to section 1445, the attempt to strike the words, "on-site value" and stated
"depreciated cost" is the best of the stated methods of evaluation, although he
takes exception to this method and discussed current specifics of litigation
involving Monrovia and Carson. Mr. Anderson requested the commission eliminate
any provision that contains any part or all of "in-place value" by staying with
the state guidelines, File and Receive, allowing options at the time a
mobilehome park is closed, alleviating the possibility of challenge by the land
owner and city liability. Vice-chmn. Marks and Mr. Anderson discussed the
definition of a "non-movable home". comm. Di Monda and Mr. Anderson discussed
Mr. Anderson's previous involvement with park closures and relocation ~of
tenants . comm. Di Monda established with Mr . Anderson his objections to
section 1445, the inclusion to the listing of anything that could be in-place
value, further discussing the particulars of this section. comm. Peirce
discussed in-place value with Mr. Anderson, who gave examples of similar
situations other than mobilehome parks.
Ms. Barbara Watson, space 56, stated she purchased her coach in Hermosa Beach
after deciding against the city of Carson, although purchase in Carson would
have been much cheaper. My coach purchase price, and subsequent mortgage, is
based upon the coach and its location.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-chmn. Marks at 9:48 P.M .
comm. Di Monda asked staff if relocation of these affected people must be
within the coastal zone. Mr. Schubach stated the people do not have to be
relocated within the coastal zone, but the park must be replaced within the
coast ZOD:e. Comm. Di Monda noted continued objection to the "double dip"
requirement and felt the mobilehome definition should remain as the State
defines it, excluding recreational vehicles and trailers. comms. Peirce and Di
Monda discussed P.C. Resolution 91-41 1441 and 1442.9.b with Mr. Schubach.
comm. stifano discussed the parameters of park closure with Mr. Schubach.
Comm. Peirce disagreed with the "double dip", section 1445. 7, suggesting
removal of, "any mortgage obligations of the resident on the mobile home, and
the costs of purchasing a mobile home on-site in a comparable park or acquiring
other comparable replacement housing." Comm. Peirce felt that nonallowance of
in-place value would a d versely impact the res idents, but felt the coach owner
does not have the right to the land. comm. stifano commented the property
owner is taking a chance when he sells the land and questioned if mobilehome
"fair market value" includes mortgage obligations. Comm. Peirce suggested
"replacement value" should replace "fair market value", while comm. Di Monda
suggested the state wording be used. comm. Peirce requested staff send Notices
to persons affected and the Coast Zone Commission by the Commissions' decision.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve Text 90-11, P.c.
Resolution 91-41 with Item 1445. 7 changed to read, "A requirement that a
resident whose mobilehome cannot be relocated within a reasonable distance to a
comparable park be compensated by a lump sum payment not to exceed the
reasonable cost of physical relocation." and direct staff to change
Definitions, section 1440, paragraph 3, to use the state definition of a
mobilehome.
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AYES:
NOES:
Colllllls. Di Monda, and Peirce, stifano and vice-Cbmn. Marks
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Cbmn. Ketz
A break was taken by the commission from 10:15 to 10:22 P.M.
BEARING
N.R 91-4 AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7 (B) TO ALLOW REMODEL AND SECOND
STORY ADDITION RESULTING IN GREATER THAN 50% EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE AT 248 27TB STREET 9 (continued from August 6, 1991
meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue this matter for applicant to submit revised
plans.
Mr. Schubach reviewed the staff Report, stating staff recommends further
continuance to allow the applicant time to submit revised plans to bring an
existing one-foot side yard adjacent to the existing garage up to code. The
applicant's submitted plans show existing structures with a garage interior
clearance of 17 '11". The applicant states moving the garage to accommodate a
3, setback is too costly and requests the commission reconsider its position.
Mr. Schubach noted the nonconformity of the existing garage.
Comm. Di Monda requested clarified of the deck renovation. Mr. Schubach said a
mistake at the time of renovation resulted in a substantial departure from the
Code requirements, resulting in 75% lot coverage.
Public Hearing opened by vice-chmn. Marks at 10:26 P.M.
Mr. Charles Simmons, project architect, 218 Longfellow, previously discussed
preliminary project plans with the Planning Dept. and received verbal approval
for the plans and existing nonconformity. subsequent submittal of plans to the
Building Dept. resulted in notification of problems and the requirement of
submittal to the Planning Dept. Mr. Simmons gave a detailed history of this
project's lack of progress, discussing the details of the existing site and
structures. He quoted Article 13.7(b) relating to nonconforrnance, stating his
interpretation is the Code's intent is to avoid altering a current nonconform-
ing building without bringing it into conformance. Mr. Simmons stated the
nonconforming structure is not being altered; a second-floor addition on the
front building is the only change. He contested the requirement of access to
all four corners of the property, stating there is currently access at two
corners. Mr. Simmons requested the commission vote for project approval rather
than a continuance.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the 1979 variance and dimensions of the existing
structures and property with Mr. Simmons. comm. Marks asked if Mr. Simmons
presents preliminary plans to the Building Dept. to obtain clearance. Mr.
Simmons said, "Always to the Planning Dept.".
Ms. Patricia Gleason, 248 27th Street, reiterated that the nonconformity exists
in the back structure, a double-car garage with a second story, on which no
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construction will be done. Previously, the Planning Dept. had granted an
exception for the construction of that structure. To move the required two
feet entails the entire building being moved, which is extremely costly.
Moving the garage will probably result in damage to wood floors and tiles.
The proposed remodel is a result of needing more room. Ms. Gleason stated she
has spent a lot of money to this point and requested this application not be
continued. Ms. Gleason maintained the deck is not higher than 3 0", while Mr.
Schubach stated the deck is over 3'. comm. Di Monda and Ms. Gleason discussed
the current side-yard encroachment, deck and landscaping, with Comm. Di Monda
explaining the current requirements for consistency.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-chmn. Marks at 10:49 P.M.
comms. Peirce and Di Monda discussed an appeal to the city council to receive
direction relating to future nonconforming remodels. Comm. stifano felt the
requirement to remodel the back building was not appropriate. Vice-chmn. Marks
stated the reason for side yards is to allow access to both building sides by
the Fire Dept. Comm. Marks discussed consistency in previous considerations as
well as this particular one. Mr. Simmons explained existing access and
landscaping to the commissioners, stating access is blocked on one side of the
property.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to deny NR 91-4.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Co11m1s. Di Monda, Peirce, and Vice-cbmn. Marks
Comm. stifano
None
cbmn. Ketz
A. MEMORANDUM REGARDING ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF A DELIVERY
CONJUNCTION WITH A TAKE-OUT PIZZA RESTAURANT INSIDE VONS
CORRESPONDENCE FROM "ROUND TABLE PIZZA" and
SERVICE IN
MARKET AND
B. PETIT.ION FROM "BROOKLYN bRICK OVEN PIZZA" REGARDING "ROUND TABLE PIZZA".
Mr. Schubach stated the item is being presented to the commission as a result
of staff's becoming aware that Round Table Pizza was operating a delivery
service from Vons Groceries. Although staff was approached and approved the
use as a location within Vons, deli very service opens the question as to
whether it is appropriate additional use or a more intense use which will
require an approved parking plan. Previous approval for take-out purposes only
was based upon the similarity of existing uses within the market. staff
believes delivery changes the business to a "restaurant", finding for approval
of a parking request can be made as long as the number of delivery vehicles is
minimal and an area is defined for delivery vehicle use. staff recommends the
Planning Commission direct staff to interpret the addition of delivery service
as a restaurant use and require a parking plan submittal for commission con-
sideration. An alternative is to allow the delivery service to continue as a
secondary use of the market.
Public hearing opened by Vice-chmn. Marks at 11:02 P.M.
Mr. Robert Udovich, 1559 Pacific coast Highway, is concerned at the alternative
suggested by staff, stating allowing two separate, large businesses to use each
others' privileges is wrong, while challenging the statement that both are the
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the commission. Mr. Udovich requested that this issue be reviewed by the com-
mission, complaining that currently the parking lot is not adequate for all the
vehicles parking in it.
Mr. Kenneth Hass stated his support to the Brooklyn Brick oven Pizza business
owners and testified to the parking problem. He stated Von's and A.M.C.
Theater customers park in the lot, taking parking from the east-end businesses.
Delivery trucks and Round Table Pizza customers increase the parking lot
overcrowding.
Ms. June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, discussed the difficulties of parking at
Von's and Brooklyn Brick over Pizza, asking if Von's will continue to
incorporate other businesses within its facility. she stated she objects to
delivery trucks parked in the parking lot using the trucks for advertising
purposes and believes delivery trucks should have a designated area in which to
park.
Ms. Diana Mario asked if "Round Table Pizza" is a restaurant, and, if so, how
many parking spaces are required.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 11:21 P.M.
Mr. Schubach offered the suggestion the businesses change the parking lot
arrangement to assure compact stalls, meeting the Code and assuring additional
parking. Comm. Peirce referenced previous discussions regarding Von's parking
lot, established this public parking is used by the A.M.C. Theater attendees as
well, and offered the solution that enforcement be increased while parking time
allowance be decreased. It was noted that private security is present within
the parking lot, with multiple time limits within the same parking lot. comm.
Peirce suggested the original parking plan be reviewed by the commission, to
which comm. Di Monda and Vice-chmn. Marks agreed.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce to adopt staff's recommendation. so ordered.
C. CORRESPONDENCE FROM AND RESPONSE TO MR. AND MRS. GOODWIN.
Receive and File.
D. PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF JULY, 1991.
Receive and File.
E. TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Mr. Jim Listener, 2715 El oeste street, referenced a letter he wrote to the
City council regarding restaurants. His specific concern is the Pioneer
Chicken, Artesia and Pacific coast Highway, is to convert to a broiling type of
operation and will emit natural gas, combustible byproducts and chicken grease.
He is concerned about the amount of natural gas released into the area. He
stated he contacted the A.Q.M.D. with no satisfaction and requested the
commission consider CUP'S for this type of operation.
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CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF AUGUST 13, 1991.
comm. Peirce directed staff to vigorously pursue investigation towards control
and monitoring of vapors and odors being released from businesses.
Comm. Di Monda recalled a previous CUP issued ordering that two telephones be
removed from LaMasters Grocery store which have not been moved to date because
the responsibility for removal has not been defined. comm. Di Monda stated
city Council should direct the Public Works or General services Departments to
initiate action with General Telephone, commenting that a "not my job"
mentality appears to be dominant. Comm. Di Monda suggested the commission send
a memorandum to the City Manager requesting appropriate action.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Vice-chmn. Marks, to adjourn at 11:39
P.M.
Ho objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission . of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of September 3, 1991.
Robert B. Marks, Vic e -chairman Mi c h a ·
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON AUGUST 20, 1991, AT 7 :00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by comm. Marks.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Marks, stifano and Chmn. Ketz
comms. Di Monda and Peirce
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
MO'l'ION by comm. stifano, seconded by Comm. Ketz to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Minutes of the August 6, 1991 Planning commission meetings with the addition of
"and parking space" to Page 9, "Tentative Future Planning Commission Agenda for
August 20 and September 2, 1991."
Resolution P.C. 91-46, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-SALE
BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A CONVENIENCE MARKET, AND ADOPTION OF A
NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 2641 MANHATTAN AVENUE, MI-T-MART.
Resolution P.C. 91-47, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AUTO
SALES AND DETAILING, WINDOW TINTING, AND AUTO SERVICE (SMOG CHECK ONLY), AND
ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 303 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Resolution P.C. 91-48, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF VESTING TENTATIVE
MAP #22882 FOR A TWO-LOT SUBDIVISION AT 596 19TH STREET.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
comms. Marks, stifano and chmn. Ketz
None
None
comms. Di Monda and Peirce
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Ms. Wilma Burt, 1152 7th street, commented she felt small businesses who have
been in the area many years with no police problems should be exempt from CUPs
or have lesser-controlling CUPs, with licensing and taxation levels reduced to
enoourage continuation of current businesses and bring in new business.
Mr. Fernando Lamas, requested information regarding obtaining a permit and was
directed to the Planning Department between 7:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING
CUP 91-11 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO EXTEND THE OPERATION HOURS
TO INCLUDE THE MORNING HOURS FROM 7:00 A,M, TO 11:00 A,M, AT 4 PIER AVENUE,
DIANA'S MEXICAN FOOD,
Recommended Action: To approve said conditional Use Permit amendment.
Mr, Schubach gave staff report, noting the applicant has requested an extension
of operating hours from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. staff recommended approval of
(l) A CUP to allow beer and wine in conjunction with the Mexican restaurant,
and (2) Allow a Take-out Window on The strand (previously approved in 1969),
subject to requested changes to Resolution conditions.
comm. stifano asked about the necessity for requiring beer to be served in
glass only, to which Mr. Schubach stated this is a standard condition which
dates back to the 1970's. Comm. ·stifano discussed with Mr. Schubach the
Take-out Window hours of operation, employees' definition of loitering and
police-problem determination.
Mr. Lee stated amending conditions required under the zoning code would require
the Zoning Code itself be amended; the Commission is not authorized to change
mandated conditions.
Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:15 P.M.
Mr. Samuel Magana, 4 Pier Ave., owner of Diana's Restaurant, wishes the
business hours to be from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. Chmn. Ketz, comm. stifano,
Mr, Schubach and Mr. Magana discussed the take-out window location and hours of
operation. Mr. Magana protested the requirement for glass rather than paper
cups and the manner in which the Police commission checks on sales of alcoholic
beverages to minors.
Public Hearing was closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:23 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Stifano discussed the importance of the various require-
ments including the requirement for glass containers. Mr. Lee stated this
might be discussed as a commissioner Item since glass rather than paper or
plastic cups is a mandated condition under the current Municipal code.
MOTION by comm. stifano, seconded by comm. Marks to approve CUP 91-11, with
section III-1 and I-4 operating hours time change from 6: 00 a.m. to 12: 00
midnight.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Stifano and Chmo. Ketz
None
None
Conuns, Di Monda and Peirce
CUf!i 91-12 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW USED CAR SALES AT AH
EXISTING CAR LOT AT 125 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, THE PARKING PLACE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional use Permit.
Mr. Schubach gave staff report, noting the proposed use is for a 8-month
interim time period, with a month-to-month extension possible thereafter. Mr,
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r
Schubach stated the removal of a chainlink construction fence is necessary.
staff recommends conditions that if auto sales business ~continues beyond one
year, landscaping improvements be required and unused structures be removed,
with current business hours limited to 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Mr. Schubach
discussed these Condition recommendations with Comm. stifano.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:33 p.m.
Mr. Andrew Mattingly, General Manager of The Parking Place, 125 Pacific Coast
Highway, agreed with all conditions except #14, removal of chainlink fence. He
stated removal will nullify his security and increase his expense.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:35 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz and Mr. Schubach discussed options including reinforcing the current
chainlink fence and removal from the north side only.
MOTION by chmn. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Marks to approve CUP 91-12, with a
change in condition #14, to remove the fence on the north side and change
condition #15 to include the requirement to remove the fence on the south side
if the business continues more than one year.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Comm. Marks, Stifano and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Di Monda and Peirce
PS 91-2 INTERPRETATION OF APPLICABLE SETBACK ON HALF LOT AT 215 4TH STREET
AND TO APPLY TO ALL SIMILAR ALLE Y/STREET CORNER LOTS .
Recommended Action: To interpret the alley frontage the front yard and the
street frontage the side yard.
Mr. Schubach gave the staff report. staff recommends a General Policy state-
ment be adopted for applications of this interpretation for all similar alley/
street corner half lots throughout Hermosa Beach.
No one wished to address the commission regarding this matter.
Chmn. Ketz established the proposed construction would be oriented to Bay View.
comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the definition of a street vs. an Alley,
establishing a street is over 20' width.
MOTION by comm. Marks, seconded by chmn. Ketz to adopt Policy statement PS
91-2.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Stifano and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Di Monda and Peirce
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STAFF ITEMS
A) MEMORANDUM REGARDING GREENBELT OVERNIGHT PARKING {continued from August 6.
1991 meeting)
Chrnn. Ketz commented the Commission is simply changing the memorandum wording
being sent to city Council's August 27, 1991 Meeting. comms. Marks and stifano
and Mr. Schubach discussed parking and camping ground allotted areas.
No objection, so ordered.
B) MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR AUGUST 27, 1991 CITY
COUNCIL MEETING.
Chrnn. Ketz stated city council will be discussing Jack-In-The-Box's appeal.
Mr. Schubach stated the Staff has conducted on-site investigation finding no
problems seem to exist until after 2:00 a.m., suggesting the restaurant could
remain open until 12:00 midnight without problems.
C) TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMM.ISSION AGENDA.
Chrnn. Ketz stated the commissioners have the September 3 and 17, 1991 agenda ..
D) CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF JULY 18. 23 AND 25. 1991.
Receive and File.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
None
MOTION by Chrnn. Ketz, seconded by comm. Marks to adjourn at 7:50 p.m. No
objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of August 20, 1991.
James Pei.-.r;ce, V-i~ chairman
Cl.--i-ush.-,e_ lch
Date ,._,,
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON AUGUST 6, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by chrnn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Chrnn. Ketz.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce,chrnn. Ketz
comm. stifa'no (Arrived at 7:04 p.m.)
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant city Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Minutes of the July 16, 1991 Planning commission meetings.
Resolution P.C. 91-45, A RE$OLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, MODIFYING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE-THRU
TAKE-OUT WINDOW IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPERATION OF A RESTAURANT AT 116 0
AVIATION BOULEVARD, JACK-IN-THE-BOX.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, chrnn. Ketz
None
Comm. Peirce
comm. stifano
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mr. Robert Eutivich, 1559 Pacific coast Highway, Brooklyn oven-brick Pizza,
submitted a petition pertaining to Von's and Round Table Pizza. He stated
another pizza shop is unnecessary and will create area parking problems. He
asked the commission review the matter re·garding possible negative impact.
Chrnn. Ketz asked Mr. Schubach his knowledge of this request, who responded
Von's is expanding the delicatessen area, with no delivery trucks in operation.
Chrnn. Ketz requested Mr. Schubach investigate the possibility of Von's pizza
delivery vehicles and respond with the information to Mr. Eutivich.
PUBLIC BEARING
CON 91-4/PDP 91-6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22916 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 228 ARDMORE AVENUE.
)
Recommended Action: To continue to September 3, 1991 Planning Commission
meeting for applicant to submit revised plans.
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Mr. Schubach stated the recommendation to continue, waiting for revised plans.
Additional parking space on the property is required. The Planning commission
should review the revised plans.
Comm. stifano _ asked multiple questions regarding the automatic sprinkler
requirement, landscaping, cable TV conduit, automatic garage door openers and
satellite dish requirement. comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach responded to his
questions.
comm. Peirce discussed landscaping and building plans, stating an area of the
building appeared to have the ability to convert to a rental. Mr. Schubach
responded the plans had not previously been viewed in that manner. comm. Marks
noted the absence of a secondary stairway. Mr. Schubach noted plans are
submitted for environmental staff review by the Building Dept. Comm. Di Monda
established the building as a 2-story structure. comm. Marks asked for a
requirement for longitudinal section to the building and the lot, to the street
to enable the commission to determine the number of stories in the building.
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:24 p.m.
No one wished to address the commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:10 p.m.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to continue until September
3, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CUP 90-36 MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO SALES, AUTO REPAIR, {SMOG
CHECK ONLY) , WI NDOW TINTING AND DETAILING, AND ADOPTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL
NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 303 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Recommended Action: To approve said request conditional use Permit and adopt
the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated staff recommends approval and gave a history of the
individual increases in services offered and hours of operation. Mr. Schubach
noted either an on-site trash container or a signed agreement for continued use
of neighboring trash container was recommended. The combination of four
businesses would require the scaled operation remain small. Staff recommends
conditions be included requiring the five display spaces be designated as such,
for-sale-automobiles shall be marked with a tag attached to the rear-view
mirror, and parking area be enclosed by a low decorative wall. Nine off-street
parking spaces are required. staff recommends Planning commission authorize
initial smog check, but not the follow-up service. The plans submitted require
slight revision.
)
comm. stifano and Mr. Schubach discussed a 3 1 decorative wall requirement, the
placement of the display spaces and the liberal hours of operation.
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Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the method of exhaust dissipation
resulting from the smog check.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:35 p.m.
Mr. Steve Constantine, owner Constantine's Auto Detailing, agreed with
conditions of the permit and showed a letter agreement pertaining to the trash
container and a drawing for a brick wall he wished to build.
discussed the hours of operation with Mr. Schubach.
comm. Peirce
Mr. Lee suggested Condition #5 be written, " ... in the event the owner and
adjacent property owner should have a termination of their signed agreement,
the property owner's obligation is the provision of an on-site trash
container."
Mr. Ted Dalton, 529 24th Place, property owner, agreed to this condition,
stating his current agreement ends July 1, 1993. Mr. Lee questioned the
agreement conditions, to which Mr. Dalton stated the two properties worked a
trade~ vehicle access through Mr. Dalton's property and use of the trash
container located on the adjacent property.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:37 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz, comm. Stifano and Mr. Schubach discussed the stated hours of
operation.
MOTION by Comm. stifano, no second, to remove Condition #2, 3 1 wall, with no
replacement and Condition #6, hours of operation restriction. Motion failed.
MOTION by comm. Peirce, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve the conditional
Use Permit as presented with the modification to Condition #2, "a three-foot
high decorative wall," and condition #5, "in the event the agreement is
terminated, the property owner is obligated to supply an trash bin enclosure
on site,"
AYES:
HOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Couans. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce and Chmn. Katz
Conan. Stifano
None
None
SUB 91-1 --A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP i22882 FOR A
TWO-LOT SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 596 19TB STREET.
Recommended Action: To deny the request.
Mr. Schubach said staff recommends denial, stating the particulars of the
applicant's request, comparing this request to similar previous ones, and
commenting the street identified as 19th st. is a private 32' wide easement for
four lots. Mr. Schubach explained staff's concerns and processes in review of
lot size area comparisons and subdivision requirements.
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:50 p.m.
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Ms. Kathy May, applicant's representative, 2200 Pacific coast Highway, stated
they have concerns and disagree with Staff's report: (1) ·feel the lot and the
division is unique, (2) property fronts on two streets, (3) very few area lots
are eligible for subdivision, (4) there is a 50' lot frontage, (5) area lots
are inconsistent in size, but with consistent frontage (6) five of six
neighbors are in agreement with applicant's request, the concerns of the sixth
neighbor can be addressed by maintai ning the current pool and limiting the size
of building construction, and (7) applicant has owned the lot since 1969.
Mr. Glenn Davis, 596 19th street, described the original building, the
additions and repairs made, and the reasons for increasing the size of this
home. He stated that selling a portion of his property would allow him to
obtain the money needed to build this new house, then discussing the street
widths and parking practices on the two street. Mr. Davis said he is agreeable
to working with the Council and neighbors to assure conformance with all
requirements.
Mr. Larry Portiami, 590 19th street, stated the proposed lots are not
consistent with the area, expressing his concern the buildings will back up to
his property. He purchased his property due to low density and the presence of
back yards and does not want a building in his immediate view.
Ms . Phyllis Horner, 1738 Valley Park, has no objection to Mr. Davis' request .
Mr. Don Posluszny, 578 19th street, has no objection to Mr. Davis' request.
Mr. Jack Miller, 575 20th street, stated the major issue is integrity of the
neighborhood; if this application is approved, applications from others will
follow .
Ms. Kathy May rebutted previous comments by stating review of plans display a
greater set-back than is current if the request is granted, lot sizes are
inconsistent, and the neighborhood integrity will be maintained as not many
lots are eligible for subdivision according to her review. she stated
conditions are acceptable to the applicant in the approval of this request.
Comm. Marks, Ms. May and Mr. Davis discussed responsibility for maintenance of
the privately-owned street, with Mr. Davis stating his property does not
compare to others within the area.
Public Hearing was closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:10 p .m.
comm. Peirce and Mr. Schubach discussed the lot dimensions and -set-back
allowances. comm. Peirce asked if conditions of zoning matters can be applied
to these lots. Mr. Lee responded this would be highly unusual, he has not seen
this done before, but if the property owner signed a recordable covenant, the
agreement would be enforceable. Mr. Lee asked that the matter be deferred
until he investigated further. comm. Peirce stated the ordinance was clear and
the property does not meet the subdivision criteria. comm. Di Monda stated the
property seems to meet the criteria, but falls short meeting the last
requirement; subdivision could prove interesting.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. stifano, to adopt Resolution
PC 91-48, denying the request for approval for vesting tentative parcel map
two-lot subdivision at 596 19th street.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Marks, Peirce, Stifano, chmn. Ketz
Conun. Di Monda
None
None
CUP 90-13 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OFF-SALE BEER AND WINE AT AN EXISTING
ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY LICENSED BY A.B.C., AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL
NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 2641 MANHATTAN AVENUE, MI-T-MART.
Recommended Action: To approved said conditional Use Permit and adopt the
Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated Environmental Review committee recommended Negative
Declaration, recommending Planning Commission to require the applicant owner to
enclose the trash dumpster, repair the western parking area railing, reduce
window signs to 20% coverage and maintain abatement of graffiti. After-hours
alcohol sale and sales to minors were noted, and recommendation of limiting
hours of sales from 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. was made. The applicant has
addressed all of the concerns except parking-lot striping. staff recommends
conditions stating the parking lot be re-striped, preliminary landscaping plans
be submitted to Department for review and upon approval, landscaping to be
implemented within 90 days, reserved parking signs be posted at subterranean
parking, staffing be adequate, if necessary, an on-site officer will be at the
owner's expense, and continued violations will result in immediate revocation.
staff also recommends compliance with all Health Department regulations.
Comms. Stifano, Peirce, Mr. Schubach and Lee discussed citations issued to the
applicant, with Mr. Lee asking for a deletion under section 2, with a decision
made upon any environmental impact rather than alcohol sales. comm. Marks
recommended that parking should be one hour rather than two (Section 3).
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 8:26 p.m.
Mr. Michael Townajian, owner of Mi-T-Mart, built the store and has been only
tenant since 1969, discussed the exterior and interior of his building, stated
landscaping and conversion of two subterranean parking spaces is no problem.
He challenged the ability of the police department to determine adequate
staffing for his store, stating his problems have only happened during the last
year and challenged the use of police cadets. He stated he has never had a
problem with the Heal th Department. Mr. Toumaj ian does not agree with the
underground parking, police being brought to his establishment at his expense
and single cans sold must be put in see-through containers. He has no problem
with employees being made aware of the conditional use Permit requirements.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 8:36 p.m.
comm. stifano and Mr. Schubach discussed comm. stifano's questions and reasons
for disagreement with several of the conditions specified: i.e. employee's
ability to make informed judgments, police protection at owner's expense,
ho~rs of operation, subterranean parking, sign ordinance compliance and clear
bags for individual containers.
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MOTION by Comm. stifano, no second, to delete the specified conditions in
Sections l, #2, 1 #4, 2 #lA, 2 changed to "two subterranean parking spaces",
deleted 2 #6. Motion failed.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Peirce, to approve the conditional
Use Permit 90-13 with changes to section l, #2 to define immediate area, delete
section l, #4 and section 2, #lA, change language of section 2 #4 to state,
"signs posted for each of the code-required subterranean parking spaces",
Section 1 #3 change "two hours" to "one hour".
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CoDDns. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Retz
CoDDn. stifano
None
None
A recess was taken from 8:50 p.m. to 8:55 p.m.
BEARINGS
NR 91-3 AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7 (B) TO ALLOW A GREATER TRAN 50%
EXPANSION TO A NONCONFORMING DUPLEX AT 41 & 43 4TB STREET.
Recommended Action: To. approve said request.
Mr. Schubach noted an additional plan correction is necessary, recommending a
condition regarding a staircase should be included. He explained building
location on the lot, gave a history of building and remodeling of both units,
discussed requested additional remodeling and existing nonconformity. Comm. Di
Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the front-unit bathroom remodeling and lack of
adequate side-yard space and access.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 9:05 p.m.
Mr. Brian Bi gland, owner's representative, 2 6 O 8 Nelson Avenue, stated the
relocation of the stairway and third story conditions represent no problems.
Comms. Peirce and Di Monda discussed reconfiguration of the side-yard through
redesign of the plans with Mr. Bigland. comm. Marks · discussed the proposed
staircase location with Mr. Bigland.
Ms. Linda Ramm, 41 4th street, stated she wishes to maintain the original floor
plan of the house with only remodeling changes to upgrade the home.
Public Hearing was closed by chmn. Ketz at 9:10 p.m.
comm. Di Monda stated the commission should try to bring the nonconformances
into conformance with the existing code as much as possible.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to continue NR 91-3 until
the applicant returns to Staff with a redesigned floor plan providing the
side-yards as required by the zoning ordinance, city of Hermosa Beach.
AYeS:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CoDD11s. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, Stifano, Chmn. Retz
None
None
None
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NR 91-4 AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7 (B) TO ALLOW REMODEL AND SECOND
STORY ADDITION RESULTING IN GREATER THAN 50% EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE AT 248 27TB STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Mr. Schubach recommended approval subject to conditions, describing the
particulars of the property, previous building construction and lot coverage.
He stated the Planning commission may wish to deny the proposed addition and
put the applicant on notice that the excessive lot coverage should be corrected
before any further improvements may be made.
Public Hearing was opened by chrnn. Ketz at 9:21 p.m.
Mr. chuck Simmons, project architect, 218 Longfellow, addressed the previous
rumpus-room addition and the linking deck which created the lot-coverage
problem. Mr. Simmons submitted photographs of the deck, explaining the plans,
the deck and planter sites. commissioners Di Monda, Marks and Peirce discussed
the accessibility requirements along the side of the property which currently
is nonconforming with Mr. Simmons.
Mr. Bill Gleason, 248 27th street, discussed his garage parking with comm.
Marks.
Public Hearing was closed by Chrnn. Ketz at 9:33 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda stated many nonconformities exists.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to continue NR 91-4 until
the applicant returns to Staff with a redesigned floor plan providing the
side-yards as required by the zoning ordinance, City of Hermosa Beach.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, stifano, Cbmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
CON 89-15 EXTENSION OF THE VESTI.NG TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #;21279 FOR A
TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1038 7TB STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve for one-year extension.
Mr. Schubach stated staff recommends the one-year extension.
MOTION by comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve the one-year
extension.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Peirce, stifano, Cbmn. Ketz
Marks
None
Hone
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STAFF ITEMS
MEMORANDUM REGARDING GREENBELT OVERNIGHT PARKING.
Chmn. Ketz stated this was a current request for a study regarding public
parking areas and the concern regarding recreational vehicles parking overnight
in this area made to city Manager and Staff for response. Mr. Schubach said a
recommendation suggesting the appropriate department study the matter should be
added to the memorandum, if the commission so wishes. comm. Di Monda stated
the commission's original request was to ask the council to authorize a study,
and commented upon his surprise with the Planning Commission at the length of
time that has passed since this simple request for agenda inclusion was made.
comm. Di Monda commented upon the city Manager's memorandum, feeling it was a
bit of an over-kill in the strongly-worded response, al though he does not
disagree with the underlined items. Mr. Schubach commented the response was a
co-mingling of city Manager and staff comments. Comm. Di Monda said he would
like to attend the city council meeting, discussing the rebuttal memorandum he
has written in his name, requesting a postponement be made until his return.
MOTION by chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. stifano, to direct staff to place this
matter on the August 27, 1991, agenda of the city Council and to direct Mr.
Schubach to resubmit for approval to the commission the memorandum changing the
language of the third paragraph.
AYES:
NOES:
CoDllns. Di Monda, Peirce, stifano, chmn. Ketz
Marks
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
MEMORANDUM REGARDING JACK-IN-THE-BOX at 1160 AVIATION BOULEVARD.
chmn. Ketz stated correspondence has been received stating the disturbance at
the Jack-In-The-Box is persisting. An appeal is being presented to City
council. comm. Di Monda, stifano and Mr. Schubach discussed the current
problems relating to the Police involvement at Jack-In-The-Box. Mr. Schubach
noted most correspondence is carbon copied to the City Manager, and the Police
Commander will be carbon copied with all complaint correspondence stating
non-responsive police action. Mr. Lee suggested standard operating procedures
would bring the complaints to Management's attention.
ELECTION OF THE NEW CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
Elected officers to serve for a nine-month period ending May 19, 1992 are
Chairman Ketz and Vice-chairman Marks.
PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF JUNE 1991.
comm. Marks asked the status of implementation of the ocean Boulevard parking
issue. Mr . Schubach stated this issue will probably not receive attention soon
due to understaffing in the Public Works Department.
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comm. Di Monda asked Mr. Lee about the enforcement of the law regarding
selective parking and the city of Hermosa Beach's liability. Mr. Lee responded
the City of Hermosa Beach may enforce its rules if there is a breach of a City
ordinance even though previously having waived these rules in some
circumstances. comms. Di Monda, Peirce and Mr. Lee discussed civil rights
violation vs. non-entitlement relating to any possible liabilities. Mr. Lee
stated additional research would be necessary to define all aspects of civil
rights violation liability possibilities.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR AUGUST 20 AND SEPTEMBER 2,
1991.
Chmn. stated Diana's Mexican Food and The Parking Place will be on the August
20, 1991 agenda.
CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION JOINT MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 9, 1991
Receive and File.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
comm. Peirce requested the Marina Liquor's sign placement status. Mr. Schubach
stated due to a multitude of reasons, the owner has not yet corrected the sign.
Mr. Schubach distributed a booklet, "Parliamentary Rules" to Commissioners.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmm. Ketz, to adjourn at 10:19 P.M.
No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of August 6, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairman Michael Schubach, secretary
Date ..,
9 P.C.Minutes 8/6/91
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JULY 16, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by chmn. Ketz.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
comm. Peirce
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant city Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
After being welcomed to the Commission by Chmn. Ketz, Commissioner stifano
stated he would be abstaining from the July 2, 1991 minutes.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. stifano to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Minutes of the July 2, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 91-43, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION
13-7 (B) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NON-
CONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 167 ARDMORE AVENUE
AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 15, TRACT NO. 256.
Resolution P.C. 91-44, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-
SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A CONVENIENCE MARKET, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 635 MONTEREY BOULEVARD, LE MASTER'S
GROCERY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 2, TRACT NO. 864.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Peirce
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mr. Richard Sullivan, Third street, commented upon comm. Rue's remarks in the
Easy Reader, stating city council may create as many Planning Commissions as it
deems necessary. Mr. Sullivan stated the ways in which to set policy are
through the city council and the Initiative process.
PUBLIC BEARING
CUP 90-36 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO SALES AND DETAILING, AND AUTO
REPAIR (SMOG CHECK ONLY) AT 303 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, CONSTANTINE'S.
Recommended Action: To continue to August 6, 1991 Planning commission meeting
(improperly noticed).
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Mr. Schubach stated staff would assure notices are issued correctly.
No one wished to address the commission regarding this matter. Chmn. Ketz
stated CUP 90-36 would be heard by the commission on August 6, 1991.
CUP 91-10 TO CONSIDER REVOCATION OR MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT LOCATED AT 1160 AVIATION
BLVD., JACK IN THE BOX.
Recommended Action: To approve the modified conditional Use Permit per
conditions contained in P.C. Resolution 91-45.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends approval of the modified conditional use
Permit with several new conditions added. Jack In The Box is an existing
business with commercial-land use to the north, east and west, and residential
land use to the south. complaints have been received by Mr. Schubach,
resulting in direction to staff for investigation, presentation of a Resolution
of Intent, and setting of a hearing. staff felt posting of signs would
aggravate the current situation. site review did not find excessive noise, but
the parking lot is inadequate to handle drive-thru traffic. staff believes a 90
degree parking with two-way traffic could be incorporated and, as a condition
of approval, requires this issue to be addressed with submittal to the Planning
Dept. of alternate plans. Additional landscaping will be required within 90
days of approval of the Planning Director. Area residents submitted to Staff a
videotape indicating noise nuisance at Jack In The Box.
Mr. Schubach said staff recommends a reevaluation of hours of operation limited
those hours and decreasing speaker-box volume as conditions of approval.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:12 p.m.
Mr. Phil Singerman, 1224 E. Catella, orange, requested a meeting with staff,
neighbors, and police dept. representative to discuss the concerns,
implementing these suggestions and conducting a 6-month results review. Mr.
Singerman discussed various actions being taken by Jack In The Box management
and its willingness to work with others. He discussed the history and finances
of this business location, challenging some statements made by residents.
Chmn. Ketz questioned the closure time of the diningroom, _to which Mr.
Singerman explained security and cleaning requirements. comm. Di Monda asked
if Mr. Singerman disagreed with more than one of the 10 conditions. Mr.
Singerman disagrees with two conditions. • comm. Marks asked the volume of
business done during nighttime hours, to which Mr. Singerman stated.10%, which
is about 50% of income.
A videotape taken from a resident's private home was shown to the commission
and audience.
Mr. Raymond Leathers, 1225 11th Place, disagreed with Mr. Singerman's
statements and discussed the business operating hours, noise levels and police
assistance activities.
Mr. Don oleski, 1249 11th Place, explained the circumstances when he took the
videotape which was shown and questioned the manner of receiving residents'
input, to which Mr. Schubach responded petitions had been received.
2 P.C.Minutes 7/16/91
Mr. Jim Hallead, 1221 11th Place, stated the current conditional Permit use is
outdated and inadequate. He discussed current and suggested business operating
hours, noise levels, the Planning Commission's Report findings and conditions
being experienced by residents.
Mr. Richard Sullivan, Third street, expressed his realization of the difficulty
of the problem being discussed and suggested that Jack In The Box hire a noise
consultant.
Ms. Sylvia schular, 1210 11th Place, stated residents are trying to work with
Jack In The Box, but still wish them to close two hours earlier.
Mr. Joe Flannagan, 1230 Harper, stated every Friday and Saturday, residents are
waken by noise from Jack In The Box.
Mr. Singerman stated opening the diningroom may solve part of the problem and
reiterated the changes that the management has made to accommodate the
residents, asking for a joint meeting. Chmn. Ketz, comms. Di Monda, Marks and
Mr. Singerman discussed the number of employees working during the evening,
on-site management, security measures, noise pollution, customer controls and
reduction of business hours vs. financial impacts.
Mr. Singerman introduced Messrs. Mian and Graffius, Jack-In-The-Box corp.
management, who stated the Company is willing to cooperate as much as possible,
but does not wish to shorten business hours due to financial considerations.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 8:10 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda felt the problem is the drive-thru and that portion should have
the business hours reduced, to which chmn. Ketz agreed, suggesting an
additional review in three months. comm. Marks suggested a shorter review
period. comm. stifano suggested the owners contact the police when problems
appear.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to approve staff
recommendation with a change of hours of operation to 12:00 p.m. Sunday through
Thursday and 2:00 a.m. Friday and Saturday, drive-thru por ti~n must close at
11:00 p.m., with a three-month or sooner review by the commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conans. Di Monda, Marks and Cbmn. Ketz
Conan. Stifano
None
Conan. Peirce
A recess was taken from 8:17 to 8:27 p.m.
TEXT AMENDMENT 90-11 TO REQUIRE RELOCATION IMPACT REPORTS (RIR) FOR MOBILE
HOME PARK CONVERSIONS OR CLOSURES TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF DISPLACING EXISTING
RESIDENTS.
Recommended Action: To approve P.C. Resolution 91-41 recommending to city
Council a text amendment to zoning Ordinance to require RIR for mobile home
park conversions or closures and adoption of an Environment Negative
Declaration.
Mr. Schubach presented Staff Report, stating this matter was continued from
June 18, 1991. The city of Carson was contacted pertaining to its requirements
3 P.C.Minutes 7/16/91
relating to its mobile home park conversions and closures, and any current
litigation, which Mr. Schubach discussed. coastal zone Provisions was sourced,
with information being supplied to the commission. Various local cities and
mobile home parks were contacted regarding this subject, with the results being
presented by Mr. Schubach. He noted it is the responsibility of applicant to
demonstrate applicable provisions are met or exemption qualification. staff
believes it appropriate to use the broad definition of mobile homes as proposed
in the ordinance, rather than the narrow one of the Civil Code, to allow
consideration for at least minimal compensation for displacement of residents
who have been in a single location for an extended period. compensation will
be based upon resident investment, type of vehicle and site improvements.
Mr. Schubach stated a general concept is the concern of the Planning Commis-
sion, recommending approval of this recommendation, with the proviso if changes
are necessary based upon Legality ordinance, this will be considered by the
city council. Comm. stifano and Mr. Lee discussed existing guidelines to
establish mobile home value. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Lee discussed appraiser
retention and cost payment responsibility. Chmn. Ketz, Comm. Di Monda and Mr.
Schubach discussed tenant/owner eligibility for relocation reimbursement.
Comm. Di Monda, Messrs. Lee and Schubach discussed proposal language
clarification.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:46 p.m.
Ms. Marie Horowitz, Marineland Mobile Home Park, space 15, commented upon the
compensation expressed by the Ordinance. She discussed the methods of
intimidation to tenants by the park owners.
Mr. Bill Cloud, 531 Pier Avenue, discussed the devaluation of mobilehomes due
to rent increases, inferior mobile home park maintenance, and asked for rent
control consideration. chmn. Ketz stated the hearing addresses only a change
in status of the mobile home park, not rent.
Ms. Mary Tyson, Marineland Mobile Home
devaluation of her mobile home, rent
subjected to threats and intimidation
commission for protection.
Park, discussed the
increases. she felt
by the park owners
financing and
she has been
and asked the
Joan stoner, Arcadia, representative from Golden state Mobile owners' League,
Regional Manager for Los Angeles county, discussed experiences of ex-tenants of
closed mobile home parks, leases and questioned park closure current practice.
Ms. Stoner stated G.S.M.O.L. currently re t ains l awyers and lobbiest state-wide.
Ms. Mary Christine Pitka, 943 Boundary Place, compared what is happening to
tenants to past experiences of flight attendants. Ms. Pi tko 's • mother is
currently living in a mobile home park. Ms. Pitko stated concern for the
elderly who will be displaced.
Ms. Margaret c. Rathman, 40+ year owner(s) of Hermosa Trailer Court, stated she
received no June 18, 1991 meeting notice. She questioned on-site value and
compensation for only low and moderate income households, stating no other type
of land development is penalized as will be park owners. Ms. Rathman stated
she and her husband adamantly object to Resolution 91-41 in its present form
and concur with all objections priorly presented by legal council for
Marineland Mobile Horne Park, including the definition of a mobile home. she
defined specific past experiences with tenants including the tenants' financial
status. stating her park has 19 spaces of which 90% is R.V.'s, her concern is
4 P.C.Minutes 7/16/91
owners will be required to subsidize tenants who are in a higher tax bracket
than the owners. Mr. Schubach stated the commission's action is to establish
clarity and is based on state law, which requires a Relocation Impact Report.
Also, the commission cannot require only low and moderate income families to be
considered under the R.I.R.
Mr. Lou Riesek, 531 Pier Avenue, #10, complimented Mrs. Rathman for operating a
park with a viewpoint toward owner/tenant partnership. He discussed the city
of Hermosa Beach's stated future plans to maintain a mobile home park at the
Marineland Mobile Home Park location and asked the City to adhere to these past
commitments. He discussed park management's harassment of current and
prospective homeowners. Mr. Riesek suggested the verbiage of the Resolution,
Section 9B should be, "to compare fair market value to condos of equal number
of bedrooms," rather than square footage.
Ms. Liza Lueke, Space #6 0, a 5-year resident, bought her mobile home as an
investment which has been devaluated. she discussed park management harass-
ment of tenants and the problems and requirements of relocation, urging
ad~ption of the R.I.R.
Public Hearing was closed by chmn. Ketz at 9:39 p.m.
comm. Di Monda discussed the definition of a mobile home, stating preference to
grandfather owners of R. v. 's current location in parks, maintain concurrence
with state and County mobile home definition, not allow additional R.V.'s in an
mobile home parks. He also explained the problems associated with rent con-
trol and suggested city council review of land-lease options by tenants. Mr.
Lee explained Section 1445, Paragraph 7 in response to a question by comm.
Di Monda, suggesting that Para. 7, Line 3 be changed to: after "payment, " "in
lieu of physical relocation which shall consider the fair market value of the
mobile home," appraisal of mobile home vs. comparable abode replacement in
lump-sum payment computation. comm. stifano asked if rental amount would be
considered into the value, to which Mr. Lee responded although mobile-home land
rental is unique, all should be considered within the appraisal process. comm.
Di Monda requested further explanation of the appraisal processes.
Chmn. Ketz felt compensation to renters of mobile homes discriminates against
other permanent-residence renters in the city. Mr. Schubach stated state law
would have to be reexamined when taking this into consideration. chmn. Ketz,
comm. Marks, Messrs. Lee and Schubach discussed State law relating to senior
citizen and other-citizen relocation.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks to continue to September 3,
1991 meeting, for which staff is to obtain language changes and clarification
based upon the appraisal.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
CoJIUlls. Di Monda, Marks, Stifano and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
CoJIUll. Peirce
SPECIAL STUDY REGARDING ADULT USES.
Recommended Action: To direct staff to study this issue further:
a. determine a floor percentage amount in definition of adult use.
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b. obtain a legal opinion to determine if the distance standard from
residential areas, public facilities, etc. to adult uses does not
interfere with First Amendment rights.
Mr. Schubach requested further time to conduct a study by staff.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by chmn. Ketz, to direct staff to study
adult uses.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Stifano and cbmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Peirce
W-2 WATER CONSERVATION: STATUS REPORT RE: INSTALLATION OF GREY WATER
SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY IN RELATION TO BUILDING CODES.
Recommended Action: To receive and file, and to direct staff to report back to
the Planning commission on L.A. County and L.A. City's programs to allow use of
grey water systems, if and when they are initiated.
Mr. Schubach stated during the June 17, 1991 meeting, Planning commission
requested further information. The Building and safety Director was contacted,
who indicated he would not allow a modification to a plumbing system which
created a grey-water system. The L.A. county Dept. Environmental Health als_o
stated plumbing system changes to allow grey water is not allowed. Santa
Barbara and San Luis Obispo were also contacted, which encourage grey water
systems, with restrictions. Mr. Schubach then discussed local implementation
requirements and concerns.
Receive and file.
STAFF ITEMS
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR JULY 23, 1991 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
chmn. Ketz stated parking in the parkway areas will be discussed at this
meeting.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
comm. Di Monda asked the status of the greenbelt parking lot issue, to which
Mr. Schubach stated he would contact Public Works as to status.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF JUNE 25, 1991.
chmn. Ketz stated commission had received these minutes the evening of July 16,
1991.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda discussed the commission's prior decision to ask city council to
consider restricting parking-lot hours. Mr. Schubach stated staff will have
available an analysis and memorandum directed to city council at the next
scheduled meeting of the Commission.
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Mr. Lee, responding to comm. Di Manda's previous request, stated a licensed
architect need not present at the presentation of plans before the Planning
Commission as long as plans have been signed by an authorized professional.
comm. Di Monda asked for further information concerning basements for down-
zoning purposes from staff. Mr. Schubach stated this is to be discussed during
the Housing Improvement Program which still may be on line after the next
election, staff is currently checking plans received carefully to assure the
definition is being carried out. comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the
specifics of the Zoning Code.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to adjourn at 10:28 P.M.
Ho ohjections1 so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of July 16, 1991.
Date
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r
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JULY 2, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
comms. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
comm. Peirce
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant city Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
Commissioner Rue stated he would be abstaining from the May 7, 1991 minutes. --
Chairman Ketz stated she would be abstaining from Resolution 91-40.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Rue to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Minutes of the May 7 and June 18, 1991 Planning commission meetings.
Resolution P.C. 91-40, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THE HEIGHT IN THE R-3, R-P, R-2, R-2B,
C-2 AND C-3 ZONES BE STUDIED AND CONSIDERED FOR CHANGE THROUGH THE CURRENT
PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, AND NOT BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT, AND FURTHER EACH
ADVISORY MEASURE SHOULD DEAL WITH ONE ISSUE WITH MORE PRECISE WORDING.
No objections, so adopted.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the commission regarding a matter not related to a
public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OFF-SALE BEER AND WINE AT AN EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT
ALREADY LICENSED BY A.B.C. AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 635
MONTEREY BOULEVARD , LE MASTERS,
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and adopt the
Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated this CUP is similar to other off-sale alcohol establishment
previously processed pertaining to hours of operation, etc. staff has provided
approval of standard conditions with building-appearance, fence-encroachment
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and removal of the telephone booth modifications and conditions. These
conditions should be immediately implemented. The establishment is located in
a residential neighborhood: therefore, hours of operation must be controlled.
The current lessee paid for the application, however, the lessors have stated
the lease-term ends as of October 1991.
Comm. Rue requested information relating to the lot size and building location,
to which Mr. Schubach responded, "25' by 100'", with the building fronting on
the property line with an 80' backward extension.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:08 p.m.
Comm. Rue asked Mr. Richard Bedolla, 635 Monterey Boulevard, several questions,
to which Mr. Bedolla responded: (l) he would discuss with his partner whether
the telephone booth would be relocated to the building interior, and (2) the
compressor is located at the back, south side of the building and ( 3) the
compressor is only operated during the business hours of 7:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:10 p.m.
Comm. Marks noted one letter from Allan Mason has been received complaining
about noise. Comm. Rue discussed the problems stated in this letter. Mr.
Schubach stated noise levels were tested and do not exceed the noise ordinance
levels.
MOTION by Comm. Rue_, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve CUP 91-9 and
Resolution 91-44.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Peirce
CON 89-25 --EXTENSION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP #21331 FOR A 3-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1502 LOMA DRIVE. and
CON 89-26 --EXTENSION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP i 21330 FOR A 3-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1508 LOMA DRIVE.
Recommended Action: To approve said request for one-year extension.
Mr. Schubach stated both CUP's were approved as of January 16, 1990. An
allowable tract-map extension is currently being requested.
comm. Di Monda and Mr. Lee discussed the landscaping requirements.
comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach established extensions may be requested up to a
total of three years, each of which may be approved or denied. Mr. Schubach
stated these extensions would be covered under grandfather clause.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:17 p.m.
No one wished to speak regarding this request.
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Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:17 p.m.
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve CON 89-25 for a
one-year period.
AYES:
HOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
conuns. Di Monda, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Marks
Hone
Comm. Peirce
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve CON 89-26 for a
one-year period.
AYES:
HOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Hone
Hone
Comm. Peirce
HR 91-2 --TO ALLOW A SECOND STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING
STRUCTURE RESULTING IN A GREATER THAN 50% INCREASE IN REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 167
ARDMORE AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Mr. Schubach said staff recommended request approval subject to Resolution
conditions, discussing the structure location non-conformities and rear setback
encroachment by a canopy-covered spa for which proper permits must be obtained
prior to proposed-addition building permit issuance.
Mr. Schubach noted Condition #3 must be changed to add the requirement of a
building permit for the spa and canopy located in the rear yard. Mr, Schubach
also stated the Planning commission must find the goal's intent and purpose of
Article 13 are met in order to approve this request.
comm. Marks questioned the height limit of 25' on the first half of the lot,
which Mr. Schubach confirmed.
Public Hearing was opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:24 p.m.
Mr. Vic Robinette, 1725 Monterey Boulevard, applicant's administrator, appeared
with Ms. Donna Walsh, 167 Ardmore Avenue, applicant. Mr. Robinette commented
upon specifications and willingness to apply for a building permit for the
portable-unit spa.
comm. Di Monda requested first-floor renovation, rehabilitation and parking
specifications. Mr. Robinette stated a new kitchen and stairway are necessary,
the project is fully engineered and will be geologically surveyed, and
explained the existing retaining wall/garage structure in a dune-sand
environment.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve Resolution
PC 91-43, with the addition of "and canopy" to condition #3.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CODDllS. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Peirce
SS 91-1 --TO EXAMINE ELIMINATING CBORCBES AS A PERMITTED USE FROM THE C-3
GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE.
Recommended Action: To set for public hearing by adopting the resolution of
intent.
Mr. Schubach stated the purpose is to create a resolution of intent to study
the matter and related the issue history.
Public Hearing was opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:32 p.m.
Ms. June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, stated her belief that a public hearing
would be a waste of public money. She stated that bars and Pacific coast
Highway cesspools should be eliminated rather than churches.
Ms. Wilma Burt, 1152 7th street, expounded on the history of churches, stating
only atheist would consider approval on this item.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:35 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz stressed this item is only to be voted as to whether it should be
set up public hearing, with a staff study. she felt the council has many
studies initiated by the city council and Planning commission currently
scheduled which should be addressed prior to this issue.
comm. Rue stated the market determines what the use should be. He did not feel
c-3 church elimination is a wish move, advising a Receive and File procedure.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the lack of taxes and the many services provided by
churches.
Receive and file.
P-10 --VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS (CONTINUED FROM JUNE 4, 1991
MEETING).
Recommended Action: To set for public hearing by adopting the resolution of
intent.
Chmn. Ketz stepped down from the Chair due to potential conflict of interest.
comm. Rue accepted the position of Acting chairman.
Actg. chmn. Rue explained the recommended action was recommendation of
Alternative #6 and referred to Planning Director's Memorandum.
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Mr. Schubach defined the contents of his memorandum, stating the matter has
direct/ indirect relationship to the circulation element in the General Plan.
Further, how implementation is accomplished will have impact upon the open
space element. They should be protected as open space and Staff recommends
continuance of the April 16, 1991 agreement, essentially the Planning council
accept the alternative that allows west-side parking, with no east-side parking
on Beach Drive with the modification to allow more than one-car depth parking
with barriers established and no parking in the front-yard areas.
Mr. Schubach stated additional recommendation is whether implementation is
enforcement through vacating of land or encroachment permit process.
If vacation is decided upon, additional zoning changes are required. Mr.
Schubach then referred to the responsible department, Public works Dept. Staff,
Mr. Lynn Terry, for further input.
Mr. Terry felt the Public Works Dept. has been able to respond to previously-
asked questions appropriately and offered to answer any further questions.
comm. Marks asked about the 30' determination. Mr. Terry stated this was an
alternative recommendation based upon a driveway minimum requirement of 25'.
comm. Marks stated the 30' depth might allow for 3-4 car parking.
comm. Di Monda commented upon the 200 maximum vehicle Public Works Dept.
determination vs. his actual car counts of 71, 78 and 63 during the previous
Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Mr. Terry agreed the actual car counts were very
realistic in a normal situation, stating the purpose is to provide the best
alternative possible while providing control on properties.
The Planning commission asked if the Public Works Staff could provide city
council with information pertaining to the number of actually-parked vehicles.
Mr. Terry stated if this study is authorized, it can be completed.
comms. Di Monda, Marks and Mr. Terry established the lack of encroachment
permits at the present time, along with an explanation as to the allowance of
some modifications in the open space areas. Mr. Terry explained the water
system within Hermosa Beach is owned by a private utility company, who decides
water hydrant locations, administered by the city.
comm. Rue asked the average lot length, to which Mr. Terry responded city lots
average 22' width by ao, depth.
Public Hearing opened by Acting-Chairman Rue at 8:01 p.m.
Mr. David Schumacher, 1612 The Strand, distributed a letter and map from
MacPherson oil Company relating to 302 The Strand, which he owns. Mr.
Schumacher stated he owns the fee interest in this property of 6,386 sq. ft.,
not Hermosa Beach City. He stated the right-of-way easement has been abandoned
by the City since it has not been used for public use. Therefore, he contends
this easement reverts back to him. He questioned the charging of $.SO/sq.ft.
($100 per parking space) for property owners not using the land for profit.
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Mr. Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney, commented he probably agreed that Mr.
Schumacher owned the fee interest described on the map, but the public-right-
of-way area is a property encumbrance which cannot be used as private
property. His mineral rights are unaffected by the encumbrance. The issue
before the Planning commission is: What is the appropriate use and how is this
use accomplished?
Mr. Michael Levitt, 2340 The strand, has lived in this 5-bdrm. house for three
years with his family. The garage houses one small car. Mr. Levitt stated the
corner lots are unique with characteristics not matched by other lots and may
be treated differently. He requested postponement and additional studies be
conducted before .establishing area and parking restrictiQns.
Ms. June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, stated no further parking is available on
Manhattan Avenue. She discussed previous deficit studies and asked about the
difference between a dedication and an easement pertaining to the lands
currently under discussion. Ms. Williams stated the use of these open land
areas have been reflected in property selling prices and are considered in the
property tax payments. She urged the commission to not deny parking access in
those open land areas.
Mr. Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney, gave an explanation as to the
differences between "dedication" and "easement".
Mr. Ed Nash, 600 The strand, stated he agreed with most of the points made by
Ms. Williams. He felt the dissatisfaction of a few has escalated this matter
to its current status, in essence making a mountain out of a molehill. Mr.
Nash favors either (1) keeping the status quo with the City able to require an
encroachment permit and liability insurance or (2) vacate the land, deeding it
to the adjacent property owner with parking and building restrictions.
Mr. Schubach explained that a portion of the Planning commission's decision was
made at the April 16, 1991 meeting. Actg. Chmn. Rue explained that at that
meeting the motion made and approved was to continue this item to the meeting
of May 21 (which was not continued due to Public Works Dept. delays), at which
time staff would provide additional information with focus on Alternative #6
and the implementation of vacation vs. encroachment. staff was to provide
details on the following criteria: TWo car maximum, no tandem parking,
side-by -side parking, access from Beach Drive , separati on between landscaping
and parking areas, landscaping along walk streets, no allowance for
recreational vehicles, appropriate depth of parking areas. staff was also to
supply information relating to the legal consequences in the event of vacation.
Actg. Chmn. Rue stated Item #6, proposed by Public Works Dept., was to change
the city ordinance to allow private parking on pedestrian walk streets west of
Beach Drive only, requiring private use be regulated by revokable encroachment
permit and parking fees be paid, no parking allowed near The strand wall.
Mr. Pat Corwin, 31 8th street, commented this issue is personal to each
resident. He stated he was concerned about preserving the beauty of the walk
streets. Mr. Corwin questioned the legality of people other than residents
parking in these open-space parking and the problems of unenforced laws
pertaining to the open-space parking.
Ms. Gloria Walker, 2040 The Strand, requested the commission refrain from
voting on the car-parking restriction at this time, pointing out the number of
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cars accessing the area on a daily basis. She questioned the vacation option,
stating this option had not been fully explored, and requested an Environmental
Impact Report.
Mr. Alfred Salido, 24th street, stated he would be adversely impacted by the
decision to limit parking on the east side. In 1988, his attorney, wrote a
letter asking definition of ownership on the property in question to which the
city Attorney did not respond. When he contacted Public Works Dept. to clean
this property, the response was the area was privately owned. ~e has been
instructed to post private "Tow-Away" signs in his area by the parking
enforcement agency. Mr. Salido felt the same liability applied to the patios
as _well as the parking in these open-space areas, suggesting that the problem
can be solved by banning parking when a title change or major renovation is
made.
Ms. Susan Mc Farland, 25 8th street, hopes the Commission will continue
considering the problem of implementation of the first half of the decision
made several months ago. She stated she believed this area was in the Loma
parking district and parking fees should be assessed. She pointed out the
similarity of parking problems and needs of both the landlocked and ocean-view
properties.
Ms. Viola James, 78 The strand, a 57-year resident, has previously bricked and
walled in the disputed area with the city's permission. She described her
parking facilities and her personal difficulty which would be experienced if a
change is made in her current situation.
Ms. Linda Kaye, 2040 The Strand, remarked ocean-view parking is not the same as
interior-city parking. she felt people will not park on the sidewalk;
residents park in marked areas only.
Public Hearing was closed by Actg. Chmn. Rue at 8:38 p.m.
Actg. Chmn. Rue stated the Commission voted to continue this item during the
last meeting, giving Staff parameters and criteria to address. staff has
responded with information. Actg. chmn. felt the information obtained during
this meeting should be reviewed by the commission and a motion defined which
will be forwarded to city council.
comm. Di Monda stated he still feels this area is a walk street which should be
landscaped. He is not convinced that Alternative #6 would result in cars being
put on the street. Comm. Di Monda commented on previous decisions made by the
commission, stating it appeared compromises had been made in the past through
zoning and City goals. comm. Di Monda felt Alternative #6 should be refined to
state 25', two cars, side-by-side, no tandem parking, no R.V.s, no boats,
provide landscaping, etc.
comm. Marks stated front-yard parking on the east side should be disallowed,
the west side should have a certain depth defined but not limiting the amount
of cars, campers and boats being totally eliminated, cars illegally parked
should be ticketed.
Actg. Chmn. Rue said the Planning Commission has previously discussed the
problem of cars parking up to The strand wall for over five years.
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Encroachment permits for the walk street yards are required, currently in
force. Actg. Chmn. Rue reviewed the requirements of Alternative t 6, also
stating that the encroachment fee to allow parking should be the only fee paid,
not to include an additional parking fee. A limit needs to be established for
the easterly one-third of the right-of-way, 25-30' for an 80' depth property
with no limit to the number of parked cars or manner of parking, while
promoting landscaping and green areas separated by permanent barriers.
Landscaping will be maintained by property owners. No recreational vehicles or
boats will be allowed. Fence heights and landscaping types need to be further
discussed.
Actg. Chmn. Rue asked the Conanissioners' thoughts regarding the landscaping
requirements, to which Mr. Schubach responded this was a detail to be discussed
later dependent upon the actions to be taken. Actg. chmn. Rue stated his
preference for encroachment rather than vacation, since with vacation the city
experiences a loss of control. Mr. Schubach stated both methods are feasible
in these cases, both having legal consequences which are currently being
explored by the city Attorney's office.
MOTION by Actg. chmn. Rue, seconded by comm. Marks, to recommend the open space
of the walk streets used by corner The strand lots be for private, up to 1/3 of
lot to a maximum of 30' parking be allowed, permanent barrier between
landscaping and parking, direct access from Beach Drive, parking is for
automobile use only, fence height is to be 36", no parking on the east side of
Beach Drive, such action shall be accomplished through a vacation or revokable
encroachment permit.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conun. Marks, Actg. Chmn. Rue
COIIDll. Di Monda
Chmn. Katz
Peirce
Actg. chmn. Rue vacated and Chmn. Ketz resumed the Chairman position.
STAFF ITEMS
PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF MAY. 1991.
Chmn. Ketz requested a copy be given to the Commission by staff of the draft
congestion Management Plan.
Comm. Di Monda asked if the conanission's definition involvement begins at the
updating of the zoning ordinance, to which Mr. Schubach responded definitions
will begin during the land-use element.
Receive and File.
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR JULY 9, 1991 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
Chmn. Ketz stated two items will be discussed: (1) the Lighthouse Cafe, and
(2) the Condominium conversion at 23 Barney court.
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Receive and File.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR JULY 16 AND AUGUST 6, 1991
Chmn. stated the mobilehome issue will be presented.
CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSI.ON JOINT MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 6, 1991
Receive and File.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF JUNE 11, 1991
Receive and File.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda asked if when the zoning analysis is being conducted, will this
analysis specifically state when land is being filled in order to avoid the
basement rule. Mr. Schubach responded this would be accomplished through the
Building Dept., which has the responsibility.
comm. Di Monda also asked about chapter 3 of the state Business and Professions
code regarding an applicant ability to present a project requiring a licensed
professional's signature. Mr. Lee stated he would investigate the questions
and present an opinion at the next scheduled Planning commission Meeting.
Comm .. Di Monda asked if the Planning commission members felt the green-belt
parking area should be restricted to establish control and avoid extended use
by recreational vehicles. chmn. Ketz expressed interest in an ordinance to
restrict overnight parking in public parking lots, Comm. Rue concurred. Chmn.
Ketz asked if camping trailers are allowed to be parked in Hermosa Beach city
parking lots, to which Mr. Schubach responded he would contact General services
for a specific answer. comm. Di Monda suggested this concept be forwarded to
the council for agenda placement to which Chmn. Ketz and comm. Rue agreed.
Mr. Schubach will initiate a memo, distributing it during the next meeting for
the Planning Commission's review and approval.
comm. Marks stated each city should designate an area for recreational vehicle
parking. Comm. Di Monda stated creation of an R.V. parking area is-a separate
issue.
Comm. Rue stated as a result of the Pacific coast Highway parking restrictions,
some north-end streets have barriers which are creating difficulty in exiting
from local businesses, resulting in automobile accidents.
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at 9:18 P.M.
Ho objections~ so ordered.
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CER'rIFICATIOH
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of July 2, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Michael Schubach, secretary
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JUNE 4, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:02 P.M. by Vice-chairman Peirce.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Rue.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Vice-chmn. Peirce
chmn. Ketz
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
MOTION BY comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Peirce to approve the minutes of May 21,
1991 with one correction, page 1. No objections; so ordered.
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Di Monda to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Resolution P.C. 91-26, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22305, AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 2-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 918 15TH STREET.
Resolution P.C. 91-27, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22304, AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 2-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 930 15TH STREET.
Resolution P.C. 91-34, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, TO AUTHORIZE AN
AUTO REPAIR ESTABLISHMENT AT 1402 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Policy Statement P.C. 91-1, A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, REGARDING THE LAND USE CATEGORY FOR
"COFFEE HOUSES".
No objections: so ordered.
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Di Monda, a resolution to approve as
amended Resolution P.C. 91-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE ENTIRE "BILTMORE SITE"
BE DESIGNATED FOR A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL USES AND OPEN SPACE; THAT THE
COASTAL COMMISSION DECISION NOT BE ACCEPTED; AND THAT THE PROPERTY BE
CONSIDERED FOR LAND-LEASE RATHER THAN FOR SALE TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR PURCHASE
OF OPEN SPACE AND THE LAND BE KEPT IN THE POSSESSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
No objections; so ordered.
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mr. Richard Sullivan, (213) 374-7410, 3rd street, announced July 9, 1991 city
Council will be hearing a appeal for the Lighthouse Cafe. He voiced his
personal complaints pertaining to the Lighthouse Cafe and invited residents to
join him at the July 9th Hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING
CUP 91-4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO BODY REPAIR & PAINTING, AUTO
SALES, AND GENERAL AUTO REPAIR, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 210 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, FELDER'S BODY SHOP AND SALES
(continued from May 21, 1991 meeting).
Mr. Schubach gave staff report. staff recommended approval of this request
subject to Resolution conditions and standard Condition modifications as
follows:
Condition #4 satisfy the Building Dept's. requirements by modifying the
enclosed covered patio.
condition #5 Allow removable poles at the front of the driveway as long
as site access are not affected during operating hours.
condition #7 Allow night-use of the building if all doors are closed
until 10:00 P.M., allow the car-sales business portion to
remain open until 10:00 P.M.
Condition #11 Add other types of paints considered safe by the Air Quality
commission.
condition #14 Allow work within the outside walled-in area for incidental
activities, subject to approval by the Director. All doors
are to be closed with the exception of the southern-exposure
door (with consideration be given to allow the North door to
remain open) .
Condition #17 Allow long-term storage of covered, registered vehicles
awaiting sale. The term "loud and obnoxious noise"
eliminated.
Condition #21 Allow in-door repair of auto alarms previously ipstalled.
Condition #22 Allow installation of burglar alarm with bells, buzzers.
Mr. Schubach commented on the landscaping, fencing and parking spaces shown in
the revised plans. staff recommends that current parking spaces should be
standard size, with additional spaces provided.
Hearing opened by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 7:21 P.M.
Mr. Jack Wood, 200 Pier Ave., Ste. 38, representing Mr. Felder, stated a
misunderstanding regarding the CUP. Mr. Felder's past and present business
remains the same. His current request is to meet his legal obligations in
order to continue conducting this same business, and he is willing to comply
with condition requirements.
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comm. Rue questioned doors remaining open during business hours, to which Mr.
wood responded that doors would be opened and closed as necessary to move cars,
with the south-door being open most of the time.
Mr. Richard Sullivan, (213) 374-7410, distributed "handouts" to Commissioners
and related his discussions/problems with Mr. Felder during the past years,
stating Mr. Felder is very accommodating to the local residents. He stated
this CUP would determine future handling of similar applications, and that he
was disturbed with the differences between the original and modified CUP,
regarding the doors, patio, parking and air pollution and "hanky-panky."
vice-chmn. Peirce advised Mr. Sullivan of his right to contact the city council
or city Attorney, rather than the Planning commission.
Mr. Ray Martin, 1255 Corona st., would like to see a CUP condition that no
outside auto-body sanding and the "loud noise and obnoxious" statement be
reinstated. comm. Marks asked Mr. Martin's involvement, to which Mr. Martin
responded he was interested in the European Bodyshop and the work of all body
shops within Hermosa Beach.
Mr. Schubach pointed out that Felder's was an established, existing business,
not a new one, and is being considered as such.
Mr. Mark Moreno, corona st., understood the amortization process of the
existing CUP' s purpose is to upgrade the business and property values, and
wondered if such a plan existed. Vice-Chmn. Peirce stated, yes, and requested
Mr. Moreno's suggestions. Mr. Moreno requested the intent on this issue and
continuity of requirements, to which vice-Chmn. Peirce responded all auto-body
shops would be brought through this process during the next two years to make
them good neighbors, not contributing to noise or pollution.
Mr. Jack Wood rebutted Messrs. Sullivan's and Moreno's comments regarding loud
noise, lack in understanding of Mr. Felder's business operation and hours of
operation.
Public hearing closed by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 7:58 P.M.
Vice-chmn. Peirce stated the loud and obnoxious noise is controlled through
other legal requirements and requested further information pertaining to the
covered patio. Mr. Schubach responded the City Building Dept. approved the
original covered patio, which later become enclosed, sanding was being
performed within the patio.
comm. Di Monda commented upon the need of a permit for the enclosed patio and
allowance of hand-sanding, hand-painting in open areas by body shops, hazard
material storage handling and regulations, and fire code violations, to which
Mr. Schubach responded a code provision exists allowing some outdoor auxiliary
work, which is visually checked by the staff. Additionally, fire codes and the
Fire Dept. monitor hazardous material storage. Vice-chmn. Peirce stated the
Commission's function is to ensure that business nuisances are eliminated by
the CUP.
Mr. Lee stated the CUP process does not waive or release a business from
compliance with other applicable laws, regulations or provisions which apply.
Businesses must comply with all these requirements. The CUP is to address
specific impacts created by the land-use.
comm. Di Monda disagreed with body shops being open on Sunday to do sanding.
Mr. Schubach responded that each business has a style in conducting business
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and the commission needs to be attuned to business needs in order to retain and
obtain businesses. This particular application has 28 conditions. Mr.
Schubach has received 12 letters from immediate neighbors stating "let Mr.
Felder continue."
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Vice-chmni Peirce to approve CUP 91-4, with
the following corrections: Item #4 to read, "Shall be inspected to the
satisfaction of the Building Dept," Item #7, change to "personal" rather than
"personnel".
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conan. Rue, Vice-chmn. Peirce
Conan. Di Monda, Marks
None
Chmn. Ketz
Vice-chmn. Peirce asked for alternatives.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve CUP 91-4, with
the following corrections: Item #4 to read, "Shall be inspected to the
satisfaction of the Building Dept," Item #7, change to "personal" rather than
"personnel", Sunday hours must be indoors, and Item #14 eliminate all outdoor
hand-sanding.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Rue, Di Monda, Marks, Vice-chmn. Peirce
None
None
chmn. Katz
Vice-Chmn. Peirce announced Thursday, June 6, 1991, at 7:00 P.M., the Planning
Commission and city council will hold a meeting.
T-4 BALLOT MEASURES REGARDING HEIGHT AND HOUSING STANDARDS.
Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Mr. Schubach gave the staff report pertaining to the examination of lowering
allowable height in C-2, c-3, R-2, R-2B, R-3 and R-P zones, the grandfather
clause, and determine if proposed ballot measures regarding house standards
should actually be on the ballot. Staff's recommendation to city council is to
lower height as noted in attached resolutions. Also recommended are two
methods applying to the grandfather clause: recommend a moratorium and/or
request/recommendation that at the time the ballot measure passes in November
1991 that a grandfather clause be included.
Mr. Schubach stated a history of actions taken pertaining to these subjects
during the past 10 years, listing beneficial and detrimental architectural
effects within the particular zones. The staff reviewed Redondo Beach and
Manhattan Beach height requirements with height restrictions in both
residential and commercial zones lower than what the City of Hermosa Beach
allows. Both cities use a different measurement method than Hermosa Beach,
explained by Mr. Schubach. Approximately 60% of commercial properties would be
effected by the ballot measure, an additional 36. 8% will be effected if the
specific plan area along Pacific coast Highway is included. Height would be
restricted to 35 feet with a few exceptions. A maximum of 40 ft. is allowed in
a few special cases to be reviewed by the Planning commission.
Mr. Schubach stated the Planning Staff agrees with the wording noted in the
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city Manager's Report as far as the advisory measures are concerned and if the
measures are to be placed on the ballot, and agrees that housing measures need
review. If the mandated ballot measure are placed on the ballot and passed,
the measures are effective immediately, and already approved plans are not
grandfathered. A moratorium with a grandfather clause may be prudent at this
time. View blockage potential was discussed by Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 8:37 P.M.
Vice-chmn. Peirce stated the subjects for discussion should be ( 1) the city
council's process, and (2) comments on the height changes and standards, with
the purpose of guiding the commission in its decision.
comm. Rue asked if the ordinances as drafted by the city Attorney will go to
the city council as recommended, and if so, will the Council change them to
which Mr. Schubach responded the council will receive the ordinances which are
open to consideration. Comm. Rue stated these are not advisory, but rather an
amendment to the zoning code. Mr. Schubach said there are a total of six
ballot measures; four mandated, two advisory only, which have gone to the city
council and referred back for study, public hearings and input prior to making
final judgment. Management-level staff felt this issue should be brought
before the Planning commission for input. comm. Rue commented on the lack of
backup information to enable a decision by the Planning Commission.
comm. Marks asked what stimulated and who created the ballot measure, to which
Mr. Schubach responded the council felt the constituents were interested and
was voted on by the council. comm. Rue commented the Planning Commission has
scheduled to conduct a study on an ongoing basis as the city changes.
comm. Di Monda noted the new language in the revision on the housing standards
revisory measures is more restrictive to bulk and parking and asked if approval
is granted would the Planning Commission's hands be tied or can exceptions be
made. Mr. Schubach responded if language was added to indicate an exception
rule, but any exception measures must be added at this time.
Mr. Jack Brantley, 74 18th street, bought his 1908 home with the plan to build
a home utilizing the existing height limitations. If the height limitations
are decreased, this will defeat his original purpose in buying his property.
smaller, older, high density homes will be perpetualized with adoption of the
new limitations.
Mr. Raymond Quigley, 442 strand, stated his neighbors have built larger houses
than his own. He and others with smaller homes will not have the option to
increase living space as has been done in the past, therefore decreasing the
value of his property.
Vice-chmn. stated the Planning commission has been requested to make a
recommendation to city council, who has put the measures on the ballot.
Public Hearing was closed by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 8:59 P.M.
comm. Di Monda read that the density problem appeared to have been resolved by
past council action; the issue of height was the most significant zoning
concern and asked if this statement was in the view of the council. Mr.
Schubach responded that previously the council wished more density reduction.
After staff study, density was determined to be low. council then determined
height, bulk problems should be addressed.
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vice-chmn. stated height-determination past practice was to assure
architectural diversity. current building practices do not address this
diversity goal. In order to modify the zoning code, the process must be
followed. However, the verbiage on the ballot is difficult to understand due
to the brevity. Therefore, an advisory ballot must be crisp and concise in
order to not create additional implementation misunderstandings. vice-chmn.
Peirce recommended that rather than fine-tune the particular measures, a
summary letter be sent to the city council, to which comm. Rue agreed, stating
a letter, Planning commission Meeting Minutes or a resolution be sent to the
city stating the Planning Commission does not support the advisory or
ordinances because they are simplifications not using the correct process.
Comm. Di Monda also agreed, stating that if the city council is looking to
reduce the effect of building and obtain more light/air, bulk should be focused
upon.
Vice-chmn. Peirce stated not enough information had been supplied to the
Planning Commission to enable the Commission to make an informed decision at
this time and suggested a 10-item questionnaire be placed on the ballot or a
sample survey be performed to obtain the information the City council is
seeking, to which comm. Di Monda agreed if either option were worded in such a '
way as to obtain pertinent information.
comm. Marks stated he was adamantly opposed to reducing height requirements
without very serious reasons and consideration.
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by Vice-chmn. Peirce, to approve the resolution
the Planning commission strongly disagrees with ballot measures, planning is
too intricate to place on a ballot, advisory measures are not specific enough
and should be single-issue items, the planning process should be utilized.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monday, Rue, Vice-chmn. Peirce
Comm. Marks
None
Chmn. Katz
Recess taken from 9:20 P.M. to 9:29 P.M.
P-1O --VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS
Recommended Action: To continue to July 2, 1991 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated the Public works Dept. has not had enough time to
completely prepare and submit its report and are asking for a continuance until
July 2, 1991.
vice-chmn. Peirce asked when the city of Hermosa Beach was going to act upon
the current law in effect, to which Mr. Schubach responded a measure from the
city Manager discussing the current law was scheduled, but will now not be
presented at the next city council meeting for comment. The city Manager will
respond to the Planning commission.
comm. Di Monda discussed the number of parking spaces in the original report
vs. the number which could be obtained and requested the actual number and
location of garages which have been allowed to open passed the 20-30 feet point
and determination of impact upon businesses dependent upon that parking be
supplied to the Commission.
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MOTION by Vice-chmn. Peirce, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve a
continuance until July 2, 1991.
No objections; so ordered.
CUP 90-18 --REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO 2 HERMOSA AVENUE, MARINA
LIQUORS.
Recommended Action: To direct staff to continue to enforce the provisions of
the CUP.
Mr. Schubach gave staff report. staff has examined site and assured progress
was being made on a CUP issued several months ago.
Public Hearing opened by vice-chmn. Peirce at 9:35 P.M.
Ms. Pamela Ricketts, owner of Marina Liquors, questioned the operating hours
stated in the CUP, stating she has business exceptions which should be
considered. Mr. Lee stated the operating hours stated on the CUP define the
use hours of operation of the building; if the Commission wished to consider a
CUP amendment, the owner is required to submit an application amendment to CUP
conditions allowing for changed operating hours.
Ms. Pamela Ricketts stated the city of Hermosa Beach has not fixed her sidewalk
to enable completion of trash container enclosure and requested current status.
Mr. Schubach stated Public works Dept. is being contacted.
Ms. Pamela Ricketts stated her pole sign was covered under a grandfather clause
at her original purchased. Th~s pole has been in place at least 20 years. Mr.
Schubach stated that when originally discussed, the approximate 45' pole was
established as a problem and was to be reduced in height. Mr. Schubach stated
this problem should be discussed through the amendment process. Vice-chmn.
Peirce explained the "grandfather" eligibility vs. the conditional Use Permit
to Ms. Ricketts, and the intent of the Commission in originally ruling· on the
sign height, recommending Ms. Ricketts proceed with the amendment process.
Public Hearing closed at 9:44 P.M. by Vice-Chmn. Peirce.
CUP 90-2 --RECONSIDERATION OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE CUP FOR OFF-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AT AN EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY LICENSED BY A.B.C. AT 3232
MANHATTAN AVENUE, DAN'S LIQUOR.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval subject to conditions.
Mr. Schubach gave staff report. This matter was presented to council and
referred back to commission for comment. staff feels the conditions were
revised appropriately, adhering to the intent of the CUP or amortization
process. staff recommends the commission agree the rewritten conditions are
acceptable to enable resubmittal to City council for approval or denial.
Mr. Schubach distributed to Commission a new parking lot design, landscaping
and trash dumpster location plan.
Vice-chmn. Peirce established that the commission was not to vote on this CUP,
but was only to make recommendation as to acceptability of the original or the
amended document.
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Mr. Schubach defined the eliminations from the original document as word
changes for clarity purposes, deleted items already part of the Code. comm.
Rue offered the basic change listing as follows:
(1) Front portion of business which faces west onto Manhattan Avenue is
boarded with wood. owner shall paint/restain this -area to make it
acceptable.
(2) Language regarding the signs has been reworded but the intent is
basically the same.
(3) Employee signature of receipt of CUP changed to CUP posting only.
(4) No sale of sexually-explicit X-Rated videos unless CUP is obtained has
been deleted.
(5) Measures shall be taken to control loitering on the public sidewalk at
all times has been deleted.
(6) Participation in the EZ Program has been deleted (at the city
Attorney's request).
(7) The floor area design has been changed.
(8) The Planning Commission may review the CUP and may amend the subject
conditions has been deleted (which is already part of the Code).
Vice-chmn. Peirce asked about the appearance of the front portion of the
building to which Mr. Schubach responded it is an aged, rustic ap~earance.
comm. Di Monda requested the a definition of differences between business hours
and operations between this and the Marina Liquor stores to which Mr. Schubach
responded that different operating hours at originally been requested by these
businesses. In the future, the staff will assure that requested hours are
adequate.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the need for continuity between same or similar
businesses, to which Mr. Schubach explained that due to differences at each
location (i.e. mixed-use vs. single-use buildings), each must be reviewed based
upon that particular location's requirements and requests.
Public Hearing was opened by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 9:53 P.M.
Mr. Phil Freeland, Freeland Development consultants, 315 south Beverly Drive,
Beverly Hills, representing Mr. Duffaut, property owner asked two procedural
questions: (1) at the 14th city council Meeting, an issue was raised regarding
and _the legality of two Commissioners' presence and length of service on the
Commission was questioned, and (2) at the 14th city council Meeting, the Mayor
and Council both directed that further response by Mr. Duffaut or his
representative was acceptable. Mr. Freeland asked for a definition as to the
feasibility of his continued presentation of the Commission Meeting.
Mr. Schubach responded that the commission has the ability to make changes,
although the Staff is not recommending it at this time.
Vice-chmn. Peirce stated the commission would not vote on the CUP during this
meeting, but would recommend to city Council regarding the correctness or
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modification of changes made by staff. The first procedural question asked by
Mr. Freeland was ruled out of order by Vice-chrnn. Peirce.
Mr. Freeland requested the following:
(1) Deletion of condition #2 regarding adequate property management due to
the staff recommendation wording using the term "adequate management
and supervisory techniques" being ambiguous and provides no
enforcement measure and an inappropriate requirement in North Hermosa
Beach.
Comm. Rue asked for alternate suggestions, to which Mr. Freeland
responded with a request that this requirement simply be deleted.
comm. Marks asked if the store owner was generally on the premises, to
which Mr. Freeland responded, "No, a lessee's employee is on site".
Comm. Marks commented that an employee only was a weak link.
(2) The sign plurals be removed to exclude any ambiguity. There is no
current problem with "sign" but is with "signs".
(3) Modification of condition #4 by removing the statement relative to a
problem with the signs and include the requirement for sign
maintenance or repair, since he and Mr. Duffaut do not feel that
anything is currently wrong with the signs.
comm. Di Monda requested substantiation by pictures to be furnished by
the applicant at City Council meeting to which Mr. Freeland stated
that was possible.
(4) Modification of Condition #5 since the lessee's tenant is not
controlled by the property owner. A copy of the CUP may be placed on
the premises so that it may be read and understood.
Vice-Chrnn. Peirce asked how it would be determined and monitored that
the store operator would understand the conditions, and what the
objections to Condition #5 were, to which Mr. Freeland responded the
CUP would be posted for the employee(s) to read, but the owner has no
control over the lessee's employee(s).
(5) Deletion of Condition #5 since landscaping which would impact the
property appearance is not appropriate on this site.
comm. Marks discussed the adjusted plan by the Staff with Mr.
Freeland, stating the landscape requirements are minimal and can be
achieved by pots. Mr. Freeland stated the owner could place potted
trees on the sidewalk. Mr. Schubach stated the landscape shown on the
plans are exactly as originally proposed, based upon the on-file
plans. Mr. Freeland disagreed.
(6) Deletion of condition #7 since it is covered by condition #3.
(7) Requested current parking be maintained, since the suggested parking
would result in lose of parking spaces and create a visibility
problems. Mr. Schubach explained the differences between the plan and
the actual site to the commission which included parking and
landscaping, stating that he, the city Attorney, Mr. Duffaut and his
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attorney previously reviewed the tandem parking plan, which is not
acceptable.
(8) Deletion of Condition #12, which puts undue restrictions on the
property owner as a result of the CUP, which should not be the purpose
of the Planning Commission.
(9) Condition #14, which requires the CUP be recorded and proof submitted
to Planning Department, be modified or deleted.
Mr. Freeland stated Mr. Duffaut has owned his property for almost 20 years and
continues to be intent upon operating a well-run business.
Vice-Chmn. asked Mr. Freeland if Conditions 8, 9 and 10 were intentionally
deleted from discussion, of which Mr. Freeland stated there was no problem with
9 and 10, but continue to have problems with #8, asking that the requirement
for single, clear-wrapped packages be removed. Mr. Freeland stated that no
city has the right to determine the packaging of products and cited
inconsistency.
comm. Di Monda asked in Mr. Freeland suggests combining Items 3 and 7, which
Mr. Freeland affirmed. Comm. Di Monda questioned the parking plans and offered
suggestions for on-site landscaping, while also explaining the building permit
requirements and procedures. Comm. Di Monda and Messrs. Schubach and Freeland
discussed options and procedural requirements to change the building use.
Mr. Ronald Duffaut, property owner, stated he and Mr. Schubach previously
discussed the parking problems/requirements with Mr. Schubach to provide him
with a suggested parking plan, of which he has not seen to date. Mr. Schubach
responded that previous discussions had been conducted pertaining to this
subject. Mr. Duffaut stated he has had previous meetings with his attorney and
Mr. Freeland, but the parking situation had not yet been addressed.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Peirce at 10:21 P.M.
Mr. Lee suggested Condition #12 read, "The floor plan shall be shown on
submitted plans, any changes to the interior which substantially alter the
primary use permitted under this CUP shall be subject to review and approval by
the Planning Director".
Comm. Rue noted that if the A.B.C. license or CUP is abandoned, the property
owner can make permitted changes without commission approval, which was
confirmed by Mr. Lee, with stipulations.
Vice-chman. felt that nothing should be changed on the recommended CUP or than
Mr. Lee's suggestion regarding Condition #12.
Comrns. Rue, Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the merits of the parking plan
submitted by the staff and condition #14 recording requirements.
MOTION by Vice-chmn. Peirce, seconded by comm. Rue, to recommend to the city
council that except for the modification to condition #12 and combining of
Conditions #3 and 7, removal of the statement from Condition #4 after
substantiation of current good sign condition, this version of the CUP be
accepted as written.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CUP 91-1
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Vice-Cbmn. Peirce
None ·
None
Chmn. Ketz
RECONSIDERATION OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE CUP FOR OFF-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING MARKET ALREADY LICENSED BY A.B.C. AT
3127 MANHATTAN AVE., BOCCATO'S GROCERIES.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval subject to conditions.
Mr. Schubach gave staff report, noted the similarities with CUP 90-2 and stated
he has received a letter from Mr. Boccato contesting several of the conditions.
Mr. Boccato has paved parking lot, constructed trash container area and
requests these conditions be removed. Additional changes/additions in the
trash container area are required. staff believes modification and condition
language should remain as is; this has been discussed with Mr. Boccato.
Responding to Mr. Boccato' s letter, staff notes regarding ( 1) Condition #7
which has been changed to condition #6 and is less restrictive but still
maintains some control over potential changes to more intensive uses, ( 2)
condition #9, changed to condition #8, requires packaging in see-through bags
of individual containers, a requirement of similar business located near the
beach, and (3) Condition # 12, changed to Condition # 11, recordation is not
difficult nor costly. The city Attorney has suggested the language in
condition #6 be slightly changed regarding modifying the store interior without
approval.
comm. Di Monda asked what Code states height in trash enclosures, to which Mr.
Schubach responded it is found in the Municipal code, enforced through the
Building Dept. The staff prefers trash enclosures be gated.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 10:33 P.M.
Mr. Phil Freeland, Freeland Development Consultants, representing Mr. Boccato,
continues to object to the CUP process for an existing business with a legal
A.B.c. license. Mr. Boccato has owned the business for 22 years with no
problems and feels this action is illegal.
The May 14, 1991 city council Meeting requested Messrs. Freeland and Boccato
negotiate with the Planning commission and staff. A trash enclosure gate has
been installed. Mr. Freeland requested that condition be removed from the CUP,
Condition #3 be deleted as being ambiguous, Condition #5 be modified to posting
of CUP only, condition #6 be deleted, Condition #9 should be included as part
of Condition #4, no objection to Condition #10 as long as an overall agreement
is reached. Mr. Freeland requested the CUP wording be changed to allow CUP
recording only.
Mr. Lee responded the purpose of the language change to condition #6, Planning
Dept. approval would not be required if all permitted use allowed within c-1
Zone requirements were met.
Mr. Robert Benz, 2901 Manhattan Ave., stated the original CUP should be
followed and questioned the CUP process for the different business, stating the
exhibited controls are unnecessary.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-chmn. Peirce at 10:44 P.M.
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Vice-chmn. Peirce stated no modifications are required.
Comm. Di Monda commented that uniform, standard conditions addressing City of
Hermosa Beach concerns and regulation of problems would be beneficial to all.
Mr. Lee responded CUPs are on a case-by-case basis, the type of conditions
should be different due to the unique situations which require appropriate
conditions to mitigate the specific-use impact.
Comm. Di Monda requested an explanation of the clear, plastic bag requirement.
Vice-chmn. Peirce responded markets using clear, plastic bags for liquor sales
enable better enforcement of the liquor laws by making the product visible.
comm. Rue stated he felt the trash enclosure and gate was handled in a very
innovative manner.
MOTION by Vice-chmn. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to recommend approval as
submitted, changing condition #6 to correspond with CUP 90-2 condition #12 as
amended and collapse Conditions #4 and 9 together.
AYES:
NOES:
Conans. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Vice-Chmn. Peirce
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Chmn. Ketz
Mr. Schubach stated the CUP would be presented to city council Tuesday, June
11, 1991.
Vice-chmn. Peirce announced a meeting between City council and Planning
Commission Thursday, June 6, 1991, 7:00 P.M. to discuss various issues to
include Ruedat, Greenbelt parking, downtown business parking, Pacific coast
Highway parking, nonconforming ordinance, livability ordinance and planning
issues vs. policy issues.
STAFF ITEMS
A) A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION TO REVOKE/MODIFY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT
1160 AVIATION BOULEVARD, JACK-IN-THE-BOX.
Mr. Schubach stated this issued was discussed at previous meeting, brought back
in resolution form. Adjacent Jack-In-The-Box neighbors are concerned and have
requested the Commission review the stated problems. staff recommends the
Resolution of Intent to examine the matter in terms of possibly revoking the
CUP be adopted.
MOTION by Vice-chmn. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue. No objections; so ordered.
B) PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF APRIL, 1991.
Received and file.
C) MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAI SON FOR JUNE 11, 1991 CI TY
COUNCIL MEETING.
No action taken.
D) TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
No action taken.
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• " E) CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF MAY 14, 1991.
Vice-chmn. Peirce noted the city council Minutes have improved by furnishing
much more information.
No action taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Vice-chmn Peirce and Mr. Schubach commented on the meeting to be held Thursday,
June 6, 1991 with the City Council and Planning Commission in attendance.
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Peirce, seconded by comm. Rue to adjourn at 10:55 P.M. No
objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of May 21, 1991.
Jti-8 Peirce,0 Vice chairman
//~u~~
Micliael sc~ubach, secretary
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON MAY 21, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by comm. Peirce.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, Peirce, chmn. Ketz
Comm. Rue (Present as of 7:03 P.M.)
Also Present: Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant city Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of May 7, 1991 pulled by Chmn. Ketz for revision and/or correction,
Items 6, 7 and 8 contained no Motion, item 9 contained no second to Motion and
Item 11 noted no conditions. The Minutes will be resubmitted for approval.
MOTION by chmm. Ketz, seconded by comm. Peirce to approve the following consent
calendar items:
Resolution P.C. 91-29, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN
FOR A MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO IN AN EXISTING RETAIL BUILDING AND NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 320 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY;
Resolution P.C. 91-30, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST TO ADD 99 SQ. FT. TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING USE WITH ONLY ONE PARKING SPACE AT 2467 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 91-31, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WAIVER TO
ALLOW THE INSTALLATION OF TWO PORTABLE CLASSROOMS AT 1645 VALLEY DRIVE, HERMOSA
VALLEY SCHOOL.
Resolution P.C. 91-32, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN
AMENDMENT FOR ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH BILLIARDS, FOOD
SERVICE, AND RETAIL SALES AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, ON THE BREAK.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comins. Marks, Di Monda, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
Conan. Rue
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mr. Al Johnson, Al Johnson's Karate school, stated although Resolution P.c.
91-29 was approved, neither Mr. Johnson nor the property owners understand why
the Conditional Use Permit included additional conditions for which Mr. Johnson
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is not responsible. He requested either an amendment to CUP 91-6 or hearing to
rectify this condition.
Mr. Schubach said that a CUP is applicable to the land and is the property
owner's. The applicant, Mr. Johnson may ask for an amendment or hearing by
following the reapplication process.
Chmn. Ketz stated Resolution P.c. 91-29 was approved at a public hearing and
cannot be addressed at this meeting. To amend this CUP, a formal procedure
requiring another public hearing is necessary.
comm. Peirce questioned the property owner's responsibility to comply with code
requirements, to which Mr. Schubach stated there are current non-compliance
problems.
Mr. Greg Dahl, Property Manager representing the property owner, said the owner
has not received written notification requesting installation of landscaping,
automatic irrigation system, fence removal, walls raised, and parking
modifications. Mr. Dahl said the highest building codes were maintained during
original construction, with upgrades being made as required.
chrmn. Ketz stated the non-retail business would require more parking than
previously noted and recommended that Mr. Dahl contact staff to explore
obtaining an amendment, conditional Use Permit and public hearing.
Mr. Don Oleski asked if Agenda Item 14 (b) MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE OPERATION
OF JACK-IN-THE-BOX AT 1160 AVIATION, was scheduled for public hearing during
this meeting. Mr. Schubach responded, stating this was a memorandum noting
complaints received by the staff. The current CUP does not contain the
conditions necessary to resolve alleged problems.
Chmn. Ketz explained this was not a public hearing item, testimony will not be
accepted at this time, and this memo was presented by staff to commission for
hearing consideration only.
Mr. Jim Hallead, 1221 11th Place, asked if property owners would be notified as
to the decision and the rights of the property owners Mr. Schubach responded
that residents would be notified through public notice, but may contact the
Planning Department regarding the council's decision. Additionally, owners may
write to the council or the commission.
Mr. Schubach said the Public works Department requested a continuance due to
unavailability of necessary data in order to issue a report.
P-10 --VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS.
Chmn. Ketz stated this issue would be continued to June 4, 1991 meeting.
PUBLIC BEARING
CON 91-1/PDP 91-1 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
122305 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMI.NIUM AT 918 15TH STREET (CONTINUED FROM MARCH 5 AND
APRIL 2, 1991 MEETINGS), and
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CON 91-2/PDP 91-2 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22304 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 930 15TH STREET (CONTINUED FROM MARCH 5 AND
APRIL 2, 1991 MEETINGS).
Recommended Action: To approve said conditional Use Permits and Vesting
Tentative Parcel Maps.
Chmn. Ketz stated CON 91-1/PDP 91-1 would be heard in conjunction with CON
91-2/PDP 91-2 and requested a staff Report.
Mr. Schubach said the revised plans submitted April 2, 1991 improved view
potential, staggered upper and lower projects, but the concerns regarding
identical building design, floor plan, elevation, and lack of integration were
not addressed.
Applicant had requested continuance in order to revise original plans to 25'
height to take advantage of the 30' height limit. The revision maintained the
original layout with the upper project's exterior architecture redesigned from
a contemporary to Mediterranean style, making the two units distinct from each
other. The staggering effect has positively improved the project, which
complies or exceeds basic standards, but does not take advantage of the two-lot
situation.
If council wishes not to approve the project as revised, perhaps a denial based
on "not satisfactory" grounds, allowing for resubmittal of revised plans at a
later date may be considered.
Mr. Lee stated council may elect two alternatives: (1) If mitigation measures
adequately address project impacts, the issue may be decided on its merits at
this meeting, or (2) take this off calendar, allowing the applicant to resubmit
the plans, go through the notice procedure required in a public hearing.
Comm. Peirce asked about the specific statements and relationship of the
General Plan relating to any two contiguous lots. Mr. Schubach stated that the
zoning process and General Statements in the Plan indicate minimum standards
which may be exceeded. This is the reason for the conditional Use Permit, which
are looked at on a case-by-case basis, maximizing quality.
comm. Rue asked if the interior motor ,court was considered open space on the
918 15th street site Plan, to which Mr. Schubach responded that only the
footprint of the building is considered in calculating lot coverage. The
interior motor court is covered and included.
Comm. Rue also noted a lack of height elevations. Mr. Schubach stated the
Building Department staff calculates the height to assure conformity with
structural plan check via review of plans and on-site visit.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:25 P.M.
Mr. Dave Olin, 1233 Hermosa Beach, st. 203, addressed lot-coverage Code
requirements and gave several elevation colorings to the Council for review.
Mr. Olin stated his client does not wish to consolidate these properties. Mr.
Olin discussed associated problems with slope regarding the parking, also
stating the high roofs do not conflict with roofs on the lower lot, the
buildings are designed to dovetail each other, leaving an 11-ft. setback for
light and ventilation for the East-side neighbor.
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cornm. Rue noted the site Plan displayed a 16-ft setback on both projects with a
driveway separating the property from the cornmon wall. Applicant stated this
was correct and the side yard has an 11-ft. setback.
Cornm. Rue asked the applicant if the contemporary-design building had been kept
at 25 ft., to which the applicant responded affirmatively, with explanation.
cornm. Rue confirmed with Mr. Olin that the Traditional-design building height
had been maintained, with addition to the roof area. Mr. Olin stated the
building height was dictated by the handrail on the roof deck.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:32 P.M.
Cornm. Di Monda stated he felt that the applicant had responded to requests for
dissimilar building designs made during May 7, 1991 meeting, but requested that
substantial 24" box specimen trees be noted exactly in the CUP. Comm. Rue
agreed and noted the applicant had made efforts to alleviate bulk and starkness
of the building while adding interest.
MOTION by Cornm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve CON 91-1/ PDP 91-1
and CON 91-2/PDP 91-2 with the condition that minimum 24" box specimen trees be
included, with the Planning Director's review and approval.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CUP 91-4
Comma. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Peirce, Chum. Ketz
None
None
None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO BODY REPAIR & PAINTING, AUTO
SALES, AND GENERAL AUTO REPAIR, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 210 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, FELDER'S BODY SHOP AND SALES.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and adopt ~egative
Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated a request for continuance at a mutually-agreed later date
had been received and recommended approval of this request. staff recornmends
continuance to the June 4, 1991 meeting.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 7:38 P.M.
Mr. Mick Felder, 838 2nd st., owner of Felder's Body Shop, agreed to the
continuance to June 4, 1991.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 7:41 P.M.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to continue until June 4,
1991. (~
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CUP 91-8
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Peirce, Chum. Ketz
None
None
None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EXISTING AUTO REPAIR SHOP AT 1402
PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, FOLDED WINGS LTD.
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Recommended Action: To approve Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated the request was made by an existing auto repair business
located in a converted, remodeled building. staff recommended that the CUP,
subject to conditions in a resolution attached to CUP 91-8 be approved.
Applicant business is open to operate from 8:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. Monday
through Friday only.
The requested Conditional use Permit would authorize continuation of business,
submitted in accordance with the amortization ordinance.
This particular business has not been the source of any reported problems or
complaints. Conditions regarding property improvement are necessary to assure
compatibility into the future or with change in ownership.
submitted plans do not accurately reflect the site and need to be revised.
staff concern is that the trash enclosure lacks a gate, storage trailer is
stored in the parking lot, debris is on the slope. staff recommends the
condition that a view-obscuring gate be installed, the two other concerns be
addressed by standard conditions used by past auto-repair businesses.
staff also recommends previously-used standard conditions regarding the
business operation and recommends hours for repair be limited to 8:00 A.M. to
6:00 P.M., 9:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. Saturdays and Sundays. The applicant would
like the hours altered to 7 : 0 0 A. M. to 7 : 0 0 P. M. , working with the doors
closed. staff feels those new hours would not be a problem.
Due to business reasons, some cars may be stored on-site more than 72 hours.
staff can modify the condition, stating no car may be on site for any extended
period of time if it is unregistered.
Comm. Marks was concerned about the week-end hours and any objections from
surrounding residents, to which Mr. Schubach responded the hours would_be from
9:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. Chrnn. Ketz stated that a public hearing will be held to
allow complaint or support to be voiced.
Public Hearing opened by Chrnn. Ketz at 7:47 P.M.
Blane coon, 1402 Pacific coast Highway, owner of Folded Wings, is in agreement
with application correspondence received.
comm. Rue asked applicant if there was an objection to stating from the hours
of 7:00 A.M. to 8:00 A.M. and 6:00 P.M. to 7:00 P.M., work will be done behind
closed doors; to which the applicant responded the doors cannot be c ·losed while
working due to safety hazards.
comm. Rue requested an explanation of noise
experienced during those hours. Applicant
compressor and pneumatic air guns are operated.
level,
stated
problems which may be
no hammering is done,
Richard Sullivan, 3rd street, commented on possible fumes emitting from the
building and acoustics east of Pacific Coast Highway which are amplified. He
requested a CUP statement be included which states the doors should be closed
when working on engines, but not enforce the statement. Mr. coon stated he has
had his business for 13 years and has maintained his business in good condition
during this time.
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comm. Rue asked the "painting" be deleted from CUP 91-8 since none is done on
site, to which Mr. Coon agreed.
Public Hearing closed by chrnn. Ketz at 7:54 P.M.
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve Resolution P.C.
91-34 with the following amendments: Item #4, Painting, be deleted, Item #6,
" ... on the premises shall be prohibited, except registered vehicles waiting for
repair or pick up may be stored," Item #9, "hours of 7:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M.
week days and 9:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. on Saturdays and Sundays."
chrnn. Ketz commended Mr. coon for being the first to come in under this
moratorium and not waiting the two years.
AYES:
NOES:
Conans. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
SECOND QUARTER GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
GP 91-1/TEXT 91-1 --GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE BILTMORE SITE FROM MEDIUM
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL/RECREATION,
AND TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA FOR THE BILTMORE SITE TO ALLOW 30%
OF THE MAXiMUM FLOOR AREA TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES CONSISTENT WITH
TBE COASTAL COMMISSION'S DETERMINATION, AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Recommended Action:
with the Coastal
Declaration.
Amending the General Plan and zoning Text to be consistent
Commission's determination and adoption of the Negative
(A break was taken from 7:55 P.M. to 8:06 P.M.)
Public Hearing was continued by Chrnn. Ketz at 8:06 P.M.
Mr. Schubach displayed two maps showing the coastal zone boundaries and
open-space areas within the coastal Zone. The coastal commission recornmended
the General Plan Amendment from medium density residential to general
commercial be implemented for a portion of the site, which is to be implemented
through a Text Amendment to the specific plan area, and require that a minimum
of 30% floor area or more be developed on site for commercial.
Mr. Schubach discussed the adoption by council of Resolution ordinance at the
meeting of August 14, 1990 and the Amendment requested by the city of Hermosa
Beach. The coastal commission approved a modified version of the City's
request on March 13, 1991. The Environmental Review committee recommended a
negative declaration. If the coastal Commission's recommendation is accepted,
specific designations and regulations must be developed to carry out the {-
decision, otherwise the city of Hermosa Beach needs to request amendment or
reconsideration of that decision.
The alternatives considered are: (1) use of the south lots as commercial
consistent with the commercial uses which front on 14th street; (2) Mixed use,
with residential condominium above ground level commercial, using the strand
frontage for commercial; (3) commercial uses on the strand frontage with
residential behind, or (4) commercial uses with frontage only on 14th street,
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using 15th street frontage and strand for residential. In staff's judgment,
option (1) is clearly superior.
conceptual plan blue lines for option (1) were distributed to commissioners for
review with an explanation given by Mr. Schubach.
Provisions to amend were drafted to allow variation from the staff's conceptual
plan as long as criteria are met. The staff's recommendations are as follows:
(A) split Biltmore site into two portions, one maintained at medium
density and one designated as Commercial/Recreation.
Proposed division is shown on map, Attachment A. Amendment
of the specific plan is required. Mr. Schubach explained in detail
the amendment required and presented some implementation
scenarios.
Although the development scenario is consistent with the
coastal Commission's decision, possible problems and decisions
pertaining to how the land is sold and developed were
presented.
(B) Requesting the Coastal commission to reconsider its
conditional approval by changing the 30% commercial floor area
to a 40% land area requirement, making the residential and
commercial requirements independent, is an alternative, since
the current proposal limits the city's and developer's options
and restricts residential floor area. Request to change the
Coastal commission recommendation would result in this matter
not being placed on the ballot.
commissioners were asked to consider if this matter should be adopted or put on
the ballot, as well as adopted.
Mr. Schubach presented a map and synopsis on property acquisition and
improvement status, also explaining that one land strip ownership was in
question between the Railroad and previous owners. chmn. Ketz asked if the
railroad property would be acquired with the rest of the right-of-way when the
property ownership decision was made, to which Mr. Schubach replied yes, but
the city of Hermosa Beach currently has no claim to it and is not eligible for
purchase under the utility Tax.
Chmn. Ketz noted the modification in the Text of 4 acres from 4 1/2 acres,
which Mr. Schubach affirmed.
Comm. Di Monda questioned the feasibility of commercial-use leases as opposed
to selling City-owned coastal property necessary to generate enough income to
buy other property and asked if a study had been conducted, to which Mr.
Schubach responded that due to time restraints, studies had not been conducted, (~
but options have been left open for future study.
Mr. Schubach stated that a decision by July needs to be made by commissioners
as to adopt and decide to put on the November ballot.
comm. Marks expressed his understanding that the land will revert back to a
hotel site if no action is taken, which was confirmed.
Public Hearing opened by chmn. Ketz at 8:30 P.M.
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Mr. Parker Harriet, (213) 379-7196, stated the city of Hermosa Beach is asking
for a land-use amendment to a specific-plan area hotel. Prior to an approval
for a land-use hotel south of the Biltmore site by the coastal commission, a
land-use plan amendment was not done, nor repealed the specific plan-area
hotel. There is an inconsistency.
Mr. Harriet stated a petition for a 100% open-space park has qualified for the
ballot and will be voted upon in November 5, 1991. The Initiative ordinance
was read for the record by Mr. Harriett, who also stated the Initiative is not
binding on the City of Hermosa Beach, and if the wishes of residents are
followed, a park would be established.
Mr. Harriet said he has filed two Writs of Mandate against the City of Hermosa
Beach and requested they be part of the record, stating the following reasons
why the property should not be developed: ( 1) A Government Code states
ocean-front property cannot be sold or leased unless found not suitable for a
park or beach, and (2) An EIR should be done due to the fact that the 1984 EIR
cannot be used as a substitute.
Mr. Harriet questioned the propriety of land purchases of the south School
site, portions of Valley Park and the "green belt".
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:40 P.M.
Comm. Peirce noted the 40% land area is a good compromise, giving the ability
to persue each project on a separate basis and seems ideal for mixed-use.
staff has stated mixed-use projects are difficult to finance.
comm. Di Monda discussed the possibility of selling or leasing the 40%
commercial and selling 60% residential in order to buy four acres of open
space. Mr. Schubach responded that a study had been completed in 1989. Based
upon the 40% / 60% land ratio, there would be $5-8,000,000 available for
residential/commercial. Staff is in contact with a commercial broker, who will
give more specific figures as to the value. staff's evaluation is based not
only on the economic, but the quality of life.
Comm. Rue referred to the Resolution Report, section 9.6.1-4 (b)(c) and
questioned the original 12 and 14 units being changed to 7 and 9 units,
respectively, which was confirmed.
Comm. Rue felt the plans were more marketable with the open options being
maintained while giving the city of Hermosa Beach more control in project
development.
Comm. Di Monda ascertained that the decision to sell or lease the property is
determined by the city council and requested an explanation as to the mechanics
of the residential/commercial land split. Mr. Schubach responded the Coastal
Commission requires any amount between 30% to 100%. The staff's evaluation
concluded that actually 40% of the land would be required to meet the 30% ,
requirement. comm. Di Monda stated he did not believe selling the land would
be beneficial for the city of Hermosa Beach and felt a 99-year lease would be a
better alternative.
Chrnn. Ketz commented she did not believe residential use to be appropriate for
this site.
Comm. Marks stated his belief this area is key property to the city of Hermosa
and property usage should be considered.
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comm. Rue asked Mr. Lee the amount of acreage covered by the 60% residential.
Mr. Lee responded that 2/3 acre or 20,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Lee separated the issues before the Planning commissions: (1) What is the
appropriate use, should the coastal commission's recommendation be conformed
to, and (2) What type of transaction is required in order to implement the use
of the land. Mr. Lee felt it appropriate for the commission to not only make a
recommendation to the types of uses but also in terms of the type of
transaction for the council to consider.
comm. Peirce stated the commission's vote regarding property percentage is null
since it is required that the General Plan be consistent with the coastal
commission's decision.
Mr. Schubach stated the commission's recommendation would be considered by the
coastal commission.
Mr. Lee commented that the appropriateness of land leasing residential
property is dependent upon the type of development and whether a developer
would accept a land lease. An alternative would be to strongly recommend, with
respect to residential property, that the city of Hermosa Beach consider a land
lease as the property-conveyance method and allow the council or City Manager
to structure a transaction to accomplish a land lease, if appropriate
economically. Mr. Lee stated land leasing was not an unusual method for cities
to structure transactions.
Comm. Di Monda asked the effect of a denial by the commissioners, Mr. Schubach
responded that GP 91-1/TEXT 91-1 would be sent to the City Council with a
recommendation that the coastal commission's decision is not acceptable.
comm. Di Monda stated the basic goal is keep city of Hermosa Beach property
control, obtain a cash flow with a use compatible with the beach and local
businesses, maintain a small open space area, purchase other open space from
the monies obtained. The land would revert back to the city at the end of the
lease period.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm Peirce, the city council receive the
commission's rejection of the coastal Commission's recommendation1 proposal a
combination of commercial and open-space land use, with an option for land
leasing. staff, at a later point, would conduct a study to determine the
land-division percentages. Also, use funds to buy open space. •
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
BEARINGS
P-10
CoJJDns. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Peirce, chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS.
Recommended Action: continue to June 4, 1991 meeting.
Chrnn. Ketz stepped down because of conflict of interest. comm. Peirce assumed
the chair.
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MOTION by Comm. Peirce P-10 --Vehicle Parking on Pedestrian Walk streets be
continued until June 4, 1991.
No objections, so adopted.
***
CUP 90-4 --REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 340 MASSEY STREET, OUR
LADY OF GUADALUPE SCHOOL.
Recommended Action: Approve a permanent additional classroom rather than a
portable one.
Mr. Schubach stated a temporary structure has been previously requested.
request is for a permanent building which would not impact parking.
recommends approval of the permanent building on this school property.
Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:11 P.M.
This
Staff
Mr. Doug Leach, 119 Torrance Blvd., suite 24, Redondo Beach, Project Architect,
feels this application is a permanent solution to the school and parish needs;
maintain esthetics and parking.
Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 9:13 P.M.
MOTION by Comm. Pierce, seconded by comm. Rue, to approve a permanent building
rather than a temporary building.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
PS 91-1
BOUSE".
CoDDDs. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Peirce, Cbmn. Ketz
None
None
None
DETERMINATION OF THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE CATEGORY FOR A "COFFEE
Recommended Action: To adopt the policy statement interpreting "coffee house''.
to be the category of "snack shop".
Mr. Schubach stated coffee stores sell a variety of coffee beans, grounds,
perhaps snacks, but no restaurant food or entertainment.
snack shops need a conditional use Permit for the parking factor.·
Chmn. Ketz asked if anyone was present to speak on this subject, to which she
received no response.
MOTION by comm. Rue, seconded by comm. Di Monda, to approve adoption of the
policy statement interpreting "coffee house" to be the category of "snack
shop".
No objections, so adopted.
STAFF ITEMS
$PE.ED STUDY FOR SECOND STREET ON HERMOSA AVENUE.
Comm. Pierce accepted the staff's recommendation of Receive and File.
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MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE OPERATION OF JACK-IN-THE-BOX AT 1160 AVIATION.
Mr. Schubach stated staff had received complaints concerning noise and activity
in the Jack-In-The-Box parking lot during evening hours. The applicable CUP is
old and not adequate to cover drive-through restaurants are known to have. A
memorandum defining the received complaint was previously distributed to
Commissioners. The owner does not believe there is a problem.Recommend
requesting a formal Revocation (Modification) Hearing or asking staff to
conduct further research and issue a report.
chmn. Ketz asked about the amount of resident complaints, to which Mr. Schubach
responded that one very strong complaint was received resulting in the issue
being brought to the commission's attention.
Comm. Peirce felt the issue should be investigated.
Chmn. Ketz directed the staff to investigate and present a Resolution of
Intent, with the setting of a hearing at a later date.
chmn. Ketz announced the commission would hold a public hearing, residents
within 300 ft. of the restaurant will be notified. staff will research and
develop a staff report.
MEMORANDUM REGARDING ADDED TOPIC TO CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP,
chmn. Ketz stated the topic of nonconforming ordinance was added by the city
Council on May 14, 1991 to this workshop, resulting in five topics to be
discussed.
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR MAY 28, 1991 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
Chmn. Ketz stated the two items scheduled for this meeting are: (l)
Lighthouse Cafe reconsideration of the Planning commission's approval of the
on-sale general alcohol, and (2) an appeal from on-The-Break.
comm. Rue asked if the on-The-Break applicant appealed, which was confirmed.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Chmn. Ketz stated the ballot misuse will be discussed.
comm. Marks inquired as to any studies to lower the building heights having
been conducted. Mr. Schubach confirmed this, stating draft-form studies will
be provided prior to the June 4, 1991 meeting.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF APRIL 23, 1991.
No action taken.
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COMMISSIONER ITEMS
comm. Pierce stated he has not received the report stating how many passengers
to LAX from Hermosa Beach get on Route 1. Mr. Schubach responded this
information should be available for the June 4, 1991 meeting.
Comm. Peirce stated he needed this information to ascertain what the cost per
person, per trip city subsidy on MAX.
Comm. Di Monda asked if the city council should be reminded that the commission
recommended the ban on the strand parking be enforced. Mr. Schubach commented
a memorandum had been prepared and presented to the city Manager, but to date
no response has been received.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to adjourn at 9:26 P.M.
No objections1 so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach -at the
regularly scheduled meeting of May 21, 1991.
11r;;x-;a L
Michael Schribach, csecretary
Date
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
May 7, 1991
7:00 p.m. -City Ha11 Counci1 Chambers
Meeting called to order at 7:01 p.m. by Chairwoman Ketz
1. Pledge of Allegiance:
Pledge of Allegiance led by Chairwoman Ketz
2. Roll Call:
Present: Chairwoman Ketz
Commissioners Di Monda, Marks, Peirce
Absent: Commissioner Rue
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney
Jan Scherb, Recording Secretary
Section I
Consent Ca1endar
3. MOTION by Commissioners Di Monda and Peirce to
approve Minutes of April 16, 1991, and,
4. to approve the following Consent Calendar items.
(a) Reso1ution P.C. 91-8 approving a Conditional Use
Permit to authorize existing live entertainment
and dancing in conjunction with an existing bar and
adoption of a Negative Declaration at 30 Pier
Avenue, The Lighthouse Cafe. ,
(b) Reso1ution P.C. 91-22 approving a Conditional
Use Permit and Vesting Tentative Parcel Map
#22560 for a 2-unit condominium conversion at 544
25th Street.
(c) Reso1ution P.C. 91-28 intention to study
possible text amendments pertaining to the
definition and regulation of adult uses.
Section II
Communications From the Pub1ic
5. Anyone wishing to address the Commission regarding a
matter not re1ated to a pub1ic hearing on the agenda
may do so at this time.
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Ms. Cindy Jednak of 1236 Third st., Hermosa Beach
read her letter addressed to Hermosa Beach Planning
Department. Ms. Jednak's request to operate a
coffee house at 1312 Hermosa Avenue had been
denied and Planning Director Schubach explained Ms.
Jednak wants the coffee house to be a permitted use.
We can probably interpret coffee house to be a snack
bar and it will be up to the Commission to approve
it, Mr. Schubach continued. Director Schubach
said denial was a matter of parking, and our
Code allows us to review this to determine whether
adequate parking is available for that use.
Chairwoman Ketz told Ms. Jednak that it sounds like
you have to go through Planning staff in order to get
on the Agenda. Mr. Schubach told Ms. Jednak he'd look
into the matter and had her address and phone number
from her letter if we decide to add this to the use
list.
Section III
Public Hearings
NOTE: Items 6 and 7 to be heard together.
6. CON 91-1/PDP 91-1 Conditional Use Permit and
Vesting Tentative Parcel Hap 122305 for a 2-unit
condominium at 918 15th Street (continued from March 5
and April 2, 1991 meetings).
Mr. Schubach stated applicant was not ready with
revised plans required by the Planning
Commission; the staff had no problems with that.
The Commissioners asked if Mr. Schubach felt they were
making progress toward goals that had been requested
and Mr. Schubach felt that while progress was being
made the item had been continued so many times that he
would like to see May 21 be the final day for the
decision.
7. CON 91-2/PDP 91-2 Conditional Use Permit and
Vesting Tentative Parcel Hap 122304 for a 2-unit
condominium at 930 15th street (continued from March 5
and April 2, 1991 meetings).
Commissioner Di Monda made a Motion, seconded by
Commissioner Marks to continue Agenda Items 6 and 7 to
Hay 21, 1991 meeting.
Recording secretary reads the votes:
AYES:
NOES:
Ketz, Di Honda, Harks, Peirce
None
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ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
None
Rue
8. PDP 91-4 --Precise Deve1opment P1an and waiver to
a11ow the insta11ation of two portab1e c1assroo:ms at
1645 Va11ey Drive, Hermosa Va11ey Schoo1.
Planning Director Michael Schubach stated (Planning)
staff recommends approval of the request subject to
the conditions contained in the attached resolution.
Director Schubach read from the Report:
The precise development plan is necessary to comply
with Section 9. 5-8 which requires Planning Commission
approval of any development on Open Space zoned
property. Further, since the portable classrooms do
not comply with Section 9.5-5, Building Setbacks (the
classrooms are set back from the north property line
15 feet rather than the required 20 feet) a waiver
pursuant to Section 9.5-8 is necessary.
The subject building have a temporary appearance and
general features which make them somewhat
inconsistent, in terms of architectural appearance and
the type of roof, with the remaining school buildings
on the site.
The School District indicates that the "relocatable
buildings are on permanent foundations; and were
installed to replace the previous temporary
buildings because of an immediate need due to an
increase in the number of students. Their plans
are to keep them at this location indefinitely.
The School District also notes that have already
received all necessary approvals from the
appropriate State and Federal agencies. They
did not believe city approval was necessary, and still
contend that the city has no review authority.
The only concern of staff is that the air conditioning
uni ts on the southerly side of the building, which
faces the residences in the mobile home park, generate
noise which is heard from the park. The City has
received complaints regarding the noise from these
air-conditioning units. staff is recommending a
condition that the air conditioning uni ts either be
enclosed or relocated to the other side of the
building away from the mobile home park.
Otherwise, given the existing low intensity building
coverage on the entire property, staff does not see
any other problems with classroom structures.
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Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney said the State
Architect's office determines the character of these
buildings. They follow their determination of what is
applicable, rather than the City's.
Chairwoman Ketz asked if there were any questions and
Commissioner Peirce commented that these are
relocatable buildings; the state Architect cannot call
them permanent in the future. Edward Lee, Assistant
City Attorney also spoke and said this was not a
variance and did not make them permanent.
Commissioner Peirce made a Motion for Approval,
seconded by Commissioner Marks for approval of waiver
for the setback for the school with the condition that
the air conditioning be enclosed or relocated so it
does not disturb neighbors.
Chairwoman Ketz opened the Public Hearing at 7:18
As no one appeared, Chairwoman Ketz closed the Public
Hearing at 7:20.
MOTION by Commissioner Di Monda for Approval subject
to attached conditions, was seconded by Commissioner
Marks.
Recording secretary read the votes:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Ketz, Di Monda, Marks, Peirce
None
None
Rue
Approved with the conditions in the Resolution and it
is subject to appeal before the City Council within
ten days.
9. COP 91-6/park Plan 91-3 --Conditional Use Permit and
Parking Plan for a martial arts studio, and adoption
of an Environmental Negative Declaration at 320
Pacific Coast Highway.
Planning Director Schubach read from the
Recommendation: Staff recommends approval of the
requested Conditional Use Permit and Parking Plan
subject to the conditions contained in the attached
resolution.
The proposed studio is located within an existing
building, and would occupy 35% of the leasable floor
area within the building. The subject site is at the
northeast corner of P.C.H. and Third street, and is
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abutted by residentially zoned property to the east
(R-1 single-Family Residential).
The building was previously used by an auto dealer, an
auto parts store, and an auto stereo sales and
installation business. These businesses have all
left, however, and the remaining portion of the
building was recently leased to two retail
establishments ("Coast Lighting" and a furniture store
"Contrasts").
Building Department records indicate the building was
remodeled in 1983-84 to add 2280 square feet. At that
time parking requirement for retail uses was 1 space
per 300 square feet, and there was no landscaping or
buffering requirements for commercial properties
abutting residentially zones properties.
At their meeting of March 21, 1991, the Staff
Environmental Review Committee recommended an
environmental negative declaration, with a mitigation
measure that class sizes be limited to ensure that
adequate parking is available. Further, in response
to the applicant's proposal to restripe the parking
lot increase parking from 22 to 29 spaces including
four tandem stalls, staff recommended against the use
of tandem parking.
The applicant is proposing to operate a Karate studio
for the purpose of providing instruction for both
adults and children. The interior would include a 900
square foot workout mat, with the remaining area as a
retail/waiting area. The applicant has a current
clientele of students from its previous location in
Redondo Beach and plans to continue the same class
schedule. The maximum class size indicated is twelve
students (children), while the maximum size adult
class is for 10 students. (Note that daytime -classes
only occur three days a week, Wednesday, Friday and
Saturday at 10:00 a.m., otherwise the remaining
classes begin at 5:00 p.m. or later).
The applicant also proposes to restripe the parking
lot to maximize the number of parking spaces. By
using 30% compact spaces the number increases from 22
spaces to 25 spaces.
Although the studio is somewhat unique, it falls into
the category of "health and fitness center," and, as
such, a Conditional Use Permit is required.
Furthermore, the parking requirements for a health and
fitness center are as follows:
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"one space for every 50 square of gross floor are
used for facilities offering exercise, fitness or
aerobic dance classes, or one space for every 100
square feet of gross floor area for gymnasium type
weight lifting and weight training activities".
strict application of the above requirement would
result in a parking requirement of 45 spaces. It
should be noted, however, that this requirement was
based on a "worst-case" scenario (i.e. where the
majority of space isused for the highest intensity
classes; like aerobic dance). Martial Arts
classes are typically not nearly as crowded or
space intensive.
Nevertheless, the only way the proposed use can
operate at this location is through approval of a
parking plan, pursuant to Section 1169 of the zoning
ordinance. This section gives the Planning Commission
the authority to allow for a reduction in the number
of parking spaces required, if a finding can be made
that adequate parking is provided in consideration of
factors such as common or shared parking facilities,
varied work shifts, and unique features of the
proposed use. In this case the common parking lot
serves two retail businesses which place demands on
the parking lot at different times of the days than
the proposed studio. Further the unique features of
this use (such as limits on the class sizes, the high
percentage of children as students and the partial
retail section) could be considered to contribute to
less parking demand.
As noted in the schedule submitted by the applicant,
the classes during the day are primarily for children,
and the largest class at night (7:00) p.m. is for 10
adults. Assuming that the peak time for retail
businesses is earlier in the day, it seems that
adequate parking should always be available. This
depends, of course, on the class sizes remaining
small. As such, staff is recommending a condition
that the class sizes be limited as follows:
A maximum of eight (8) adults (age 18 or over)
for classes held before 7:00 p.m.
A maximum of eighteen (18) adults for classes
held at 7:00 p.m. or later.
No class, including adults and children, shall
exceed a total of twenty (20) students.
These conditions will ensure that the few daytime
classes be of limited impact and also provides a lot
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of room for expansion of class sizes from their
currently indicated levels. Although children will
still require car trips for drop-off and pick up when
enrolled in a class, the parking impact is usually
minimal unless the parent/driver is waiting
through the entire class period.
This will also ensure that the parking lot can handle
the peak demands of the martial arts studio in the
evenings as 25 spaces should be sufficient to handle
the instructors and students in addition to any
employees staying late in the retail stores. The
currently indicated hours of operation for the two
retail businesses are as follows:
"Coast Lighting" -10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Mon-Fri,
10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Sat
"Contrasts" furniture store:
10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Mon-Sat
Although the current tenants in the rest of the
building are appropriate for shared parking in
conjunction with the proposed martial arts studio
(especially home furnishings stores, which are usually
low intensity), there is no guarantee that these will
remain, or that hours will stay primarily daytime
oriented. As such, staff is recommending a condition
that the two adjacent lease spaces be maintained as
retail uses, a covenant be recorded as such, and any
change in use require Planning Department and/or
Planning Commission review.
Further, staff is recommending a condition to prohibit
the marking and reservation of individual parking
stalls for each business. This lot is a common and
shared parking lot such that any space is available
for any business at any time.
An additional concern of staff is related to the
overall appearance of the parking lot, and its impact
on adj a cent residences to the east. No landscaping
exists on the parking lot either for aesthetic
purposes or as a buffer from the residences.
The lot is bordered by a chain link fence on the Third
Street frontage, and a block wall on the east side
which ranges from 4-6 feet in height. The SPA-7 zone
currently requires that a 5-foot landscaped buffer be
provided between commercial uses and residentially
zoned property with a minimum of one 24-inch box
specimen tree for every 10-feet of length and the
zoning ordinance (parking section) requires a minimum
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6-foot high wall where parking lots abut residential
zones .
Given that this is an existing building all zoning
requirements cannot possibly be brought up to code
(for example a landscaped strip on the PCH frontage).
However, for other items retro-fitting is possible.
As such, staff believes that the conditons of approval
should require the following:
-The provision of a 5-f oot wide landscaped buffer,
planted with trees and shrubs, one 24-inch box
specimen tree for every 10 feet of length, along the
east property line (adequate turning radius exists
so no parking spaces would be lost);
-The provision of a 6-foot high decorative block
wall along the east property line (either all new
with decorative split block, or the existing wall
with extensions, as long as a textured coating is
applied);
Installation of a decorative block wall a minimum
of three (3) feet high be constructed along the
Third Street frontage to replace the chain link
fence.
staff is including these provisions, with additional
statements requiring the submittal of landscaping and
irrigation plans and details of the decorative wall for
approval by the Planning Director and that the improvements
be implemented on the site within six (6) months.
Applicant Al Johnson, owner of the business named Al
Johnson's Karate School at 3 2 O Pacific Coast Highway
in Hermosa Beach. Responding to the staff report in
which reference is made to the distance between the
parking space and the pull up door; there is ample
space at this time and I agree to the class sizes and
to the rest of the the conditions in the Conditiional
Use Permit and of the conditions listed in the Staff
Recommendation.
As there were no other speakers on this request
Chairwoman Ketz closed the public hearing and brought
the meeting back to the Commission and asked if there
was a Motion.
Motion for approval with the conditions attached and
seconded by Commissioner Di Monda.
We have a Motion and a second approving PC 91-29 as
recommended by staff; will all of you record your
votes now (using the new voting machine).
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Recording Secretary reads the votes:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Ketz, Di Monda, Marks, Peirce
None
None
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The Planning Commission approved the Conditional Use
Permit with conditions as listed in our packet and it
is subject to appeal before the City Council within
ten days.
10. Conditional Use Permit No. 91-3 and Parking Plan 91-2
Conditional Use Permit and Parking Plan Amendment for
on sale general alcohol in conjunction with billiards,
food service and retail sales and adoption of
Environmental Negative Declaration at 1605 Pacific
Coast Highway, On The Break.
staff Report requests this item be continued to the
meeting of June 4th 1991 to incorporate this proposal
with the Health Club proposal for the upper floors
into a Master Parking Plan Amendment. We do have an
alternative tonight and that is to deny the request
based on stated community concerns such as the
existing saturation of alcohol establishments and bars
within the city and potential nuisance of a bar
activity and the impact on Police Department
resources. Preliminary information on the Health Club
indicates that parking would not be sufficient for the
proposed restaurant/bar in conjunction with the Health
Club. When the Pavillion was originally approved it
was envisioned as a mixed entertainment/restaurant and
retail center; a billard hall/restaurant/bar, although
it involves sports entertainment, seems to be a
departure from what was originally presented.
Further, the location of the proposed establishment is
at ground level with the entrance at the nearest point
to the nearest neighboring residential uses to the
north.
Section 21-13 through 21-15 of the Municipal Code
states a Permit from city council is also necessary to
allow the operation of billiard tables prior to the
issuance of any business licenses (whether this item
is approved tonight or not).
Chairwoman Ketz opened the public hearing and asked the
applicant or representative to come forth.
My name is Dee Harris; ·I'm the property manager of
Hermosa Beach Pavillion ,at 1605 Pacific Coast Highway,
Hermosa Beach. I'd like to start off by saying there
is no existing lease for a Health Club, and there may
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never be one. I do have a signed lease in effect with
Sal Gagliano, owner of On the Break Sports Club and
Restaurant. We are one of the many million dollar,
upscale sports clubs that are appearing all over the
country and billards have become one of the top ten
participation sports in the country. Table fees range
from $6-12. 00 an hour which eliminates a lot of the
bad element.
As far as we can see the main concerns of the
community are alcohol and security related. The
Pavillion currently employs security 24 hours a day, 7
days a week and Pavillion management is willing to
increase security during the Sports Clubs' peak hours
and it is my understanding that our tenant, Mr.
Gagliano, is also willing to hire additional security
at his own expense, if needed. Apart from one
approved beer and wine license in the Pavillion, there
are no other alcohol-related establishments in the
noticable vicinity, excluding Marie Callendar's.
Parking is also an issue and a revised planning plan
has been submitted to the Planning Department: do you
have any questions?
Chairwoman Ketz asked if anyone else would like to speak on
this request:
I'm Wesley Bush, Executive Director of the Chamber of
Commerce. 1) I've been over there (The Pavillion)
several times and it seems like they have four floors
of parking and no one to park in it; I don't see that
parking is a problem. 2) According to figures I
received this morning from the City Treasurer,more
than 60% of the sales tax our City receives is
generated by the businessess on Pacific Coast Highway
and as such, 3) I believe they are entitled to more of
the Police Department budget.
Larry Vaughn, 21515 Hawthorne Blvd., Suite 1155,
Torrance, CA 90503 addressed the Commission. 1) I am
an attorney in Torrance and 2) represent some of the
people in the neighborhood 3) I was present at the
EIP 4) Police spoke against applicant 5} I would
like to read aloud the following letter:
May 3, 1991
Mr. Ken Robertson, Chairman
Environmental Review Committee
1315 Valley Drive
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
Dear Mr. Robertson:
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Since we will be unable to attend the May 7, 1991
meeting, will you please make this letter known at the
hearing.
We are totally against a pool hall with a liquor
license at the Hermosa Beach Pavillion. It would
change the atmosphere of the entire neighborhood -and
not for the better. Parents would no longer be
comfortable in allowing their children to go there.
Tenants should be chosen by what they can add to the
community -not someone who will disrupt the sleep and
possible safety of all of us who considered this a
residential neighborhood -not a "bar closes at 2: 00 11
area. Often at 2: oo a.m. is when the fights start
plus other crimes that require police intervention -
at cost to the city.
We are long time residents of Hermosa Beach -51 and
35 years it is very depressing to see how the
quality of our city has changed over the last 15 years.
Again we say -NO POOL HALL; NO LIQUOR LICENSE!!
Thank you.
S/
Mr. and Mrs. Frank E. Sasine
1641 Raymond Avenue
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
I spoke with Kim Dax, President of the Homeowners
Association at the Commodore at 1600 Ardmore and they
object to the presence of this business because of the
alcohol license and the business being open until 2:00
a.m. -there is a substantial amount of objection to
this business.
Mr. Robert Fishman, a resident of 17 Harbor Avenue,
Redondo Beach, CA and owner of one of the units at the
Commodore, 1600 Ardmore, Hermosa Beach. 1) Kim Dax
asked me to speak on behalf of the 100 owners. 2) We
feel this business would encourage children to drink
and drive home drunk. 3) With the subterranean
parking we have gang fights and drug sales.
Gordon Gray who lives and,owns Unit No. 126 at 1707
Pacific Coast Highway (Hermosa surf) adjacent to the
Pavillion, spoke to the Commission: 1) I think we're
dealing with semantics here. It has been termed a
world class sports club; this is a pool hall. 2) My
unit borders the wing between the Pavillion and 1707
PCH. I have a young family and am concerned about an
increase in noise and crime.
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Ken Clayton, President Homeowners Association of
Hermosa Surf addressed the Commission: 1) Hermosa
surf Association objects to the pool hall's serving
alcoholic beverages. 2) There's been an increase of
graffiti and public urination on our building and the
introduction of an alcohol-serving pool hall will
aggravate this situation.
Commissioner Marks asked Mr. Clayton if he'd find the
serving of just beer an alcohol acceptable at the pool hall
and Mr. Clayton said he would not (find that acceptable).
Mrs. Bee Hill of 1707 PCH, told the Commission she was
1) Upset over the pool hall; things happen there that
owners have no control over. 2) I'm alone a lot of
the time and I don't need this element being around at
night.
Mrs. Dora Anderson of 1600 Ardmore, Unit #316, Hermosa
Beach opposes the pool hall because 1) I own a unit
on the backside of the building and it is very noisy
on weekends, especially when the movies get out late
and doors are banging which makes it difficult for my
child and myself to sleep. 2) The pool hall would
increase the present noise volume. 3) There's a
different element coming into the community. Garcia's
has a full liquor license and Picasso's may have a
liquor license.
Jerry Compton addressed the Commission with his
concerns: 1) Staff report states the use is better
on the upper floor than the lower floor. If people
are concerned about noise, I'd rather it be out on
PCH, rather than on the upper floor where the noise
could affect neighboring, residential tenants. 2)
Parking required for this use is available. 3) Use
itself may or may not be questionable, depending who
you listen to. 4) CUP is designed to protect these
people from the element they are concerned about. 4)
I have been a business advocate in this town; we need
the tax revenue. The attorney "representing people in
the neighborhood" , I believe, represents Mr. Pocket's
Pool Hall in Manhattan Beach and present a good case
against this pool hall. 5) I think you need to give
a business a chance; make the requirements really
tough -but give them a chance. We need business in
this town.
App1icant's representative, Ms. Dee Harris addressed the
Commission.
I would like to talk about the hours. The mall closes
at 1:30 a.m. every night; there's no 11 2:00 in the
morning". As far as "drug sales in the garage", the
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Police Department randomly check out the mall several
time a day and as yet I have had no notification of
any such activity. It's unlikely we will be
responsible for traffic jams. As for a bad element,
I've rarely seen a bad element because it costs
$6-$12.00 an hour per table, plus food and drinks and
in other billard halls I've visited the people are
wearing suits and ties. These are very up-scale
places and it takes an up scale individual to afford
to go there.
Commissioner Marks asked Ms. Harris if she was on the
grounds at 1:30 a.m. in the morning and was she aware of the
noise emitting from the building to which Ms. Harris replied
that from time to time she has been on the grounds at 1:30
a.m. and was aware of doors closing late at night and that
security guards are there 24 hours to help control noise.
Commissioner Peirce said that if we pass this tonight, the
City council has to approve the pool hall portion.
Mr. Schubach noted the pool hall having the same peak hours
as the theatre.
Commissioner Peirce asked what is preventing this place from
becoming just a bar to which Mr. Schubach answered
"nothing"; we could request we bring it back with a list of
conditions.
Commissioner Di Monda suggested we continue and have Michael
(Schubach) come back with a focused EIR.
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney told the Commission if
you want to move forward with it bring back a focused EIR
and conditions for approval.
Chairwoman Ketz and Commissioner Di Monda felt there was too
much impact on adjoining areas and asked the Commissioners
to vote at this time.
MOTION by Commissioner Pierce, seconded by Commissioner
Marks to deny resolution.
Recording Secretary reads votes:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Ketz, Marks, Peirce, Di Monda
None
None
Rue
Denied. Subject to appeal to City Council within 10 days.
Section IV
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Hearings
11. HR 91-1 --To allow a 99 square foot addition to
nonconforming duplex with only one parking space at
2467 Manhattan Avenue.
Recommended Action: to approve this request
Staff recommended approval with the certain conditions:
that a suitable location be found for trash receptacles
prior to the issuance of building permits; that the garage
be used only for the parking of vehicles (Resolution P. c.
91-30) . Chairwoman Ketz asked the applicant or
representative to come forward.
Mrs. Margaret Kemp of 121 Belmont Avenue, Long Beach,
CA, owner of 2467 Manhattan Avenue, Hermosa Beach
explained the house in question had been in the family
for many years and had originally been built as a
duplex with a single garage.
Commissioner Di Monda noted the hardscape next to the house
and asked to make a condition that some of the paving be
remove and planted with trees.
Jim Ingram of 24 70 Manhattan Avenue, Hermosa Beach
spoke to the Commission about his concern that the
remodel of 2467 Manhattan Avenue would not obscure the
ocean view from his house. He felt that although the
remodeling itself would not affect his view the
potential existed for the ordered landscaping/trees to
block his view across the street.·
Greg Windsor
south of the
in questions
consideration.
of 1737 Windsor Avenue (eight blocks
property in question) felt the property
should receive nothing but favorable
Mrs. Kemp agreed to landscape some of (present)
hardscape area without blocking Mr. Ingram's ocean
view and to relocate the present trash receptacle and
garage to be used only for parking of vehicles.
Chairwoman Ketz closed the public hearing and brought the
meeting back to the Commission.
Commissioner Di Monda was in favor of approval with
consideration of size, quantity and type of materials to be
used in the landscaping with the condition that it doesn't
block anyone's view. A 24" box speciman tree was suggested;
relocation of present trash receptacle and the garage to be
used only for parking of vehicles.
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Mr. Schubach asked Mrs. Kemp to bring the landscaping plan
to be used to Planning Department and we will take into
consideration blocking of the ocean view.
MOTION to Approve with Conditions by Commissioner Di Monda,
seconded by Commissioner Marks.
Recording Secretary read the votes:
AYES:
NOES:
Ketz, Di Monda, Marks, Peirce
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Rue
Approved with the conditions that a suitable location be
found for trash receptacles Drior to the issuance of
bui1dinq permits; that the garage be used only for the
parking of vehicles (Resolution P.C. 91-30) and that some of
the paving next to the house be removed and planted with
trees that will not block anyone's view. Subject to appeal
to City Council within 10 days.
12. CON 89-24 --Extension of the Conditional Use Permit
and Vesting Tentative Parcel Map #20342 for a 30-unit
condominium at 226 Manhattan Avenue.
Mr. Schubach states that the Planning Staff
Recommendations that the C.U.P. be extended one year
to May 21, 1992, by minute order.
The applicant indicates that the reason for the delay
in carrying out the project is due to the current
economic situation.
Chairwoman Ketz opened Public Hearing.
Jerry Compton of 1200 Artesia Blvd., Hermosa Beach, CA
said he was architect of the project. We are in plan
check to finalize the project.
Chairwoman Ketz asked if there were any questions and, there
being none, closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION by Commission Peirce and seconded by Commissioner
Marks to approve request as recommended by staff.
Recording Secretary read the votes:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Ketz, Di Monda, Marks, Peirce
None
NONE
Rue
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Recommended action: Extend for one year.
Section V
13. Staff Items
a. City Council/Planning Commission workshop.
The City Council, at their meeting of April 23, 1991,
has selected Thursday, June 6, 1991 at 7:00 p .m. to be
the City Council/Planning Commission workshop date.
The topics remain unchanged as Planning Commission
suggested: RUDAT, Greenbelt parking, downtown
business parking and PCB parking.
b. Planning Department activity report of March, 1991.
Commissioner Pierce reminded Planning Director
Schubach that he was to write a memo to the city on
how many riders used MAX and Mr. Schubach replied it
was being done right now and you will have it very
shortly. Our amount of cost went from $47,000 to a
final figure of $19,000 starting this next fiscal
year. We are very reduced in terms of our costs, Mr.
Schubach continued, we are still trying to market to
TRW which is working; the only reason we haven't got
it back together is because we are working with the
ballot measure analysis and the new, general plan.
There's a lot going on with those particular measures
but we'll be getting back to MAX shortly.
Commissioner Pierce asked what Boccato' s had appealed
on the upcoming Agenda and Mr. Schubach said what was
appealed were the conditions. He has submitted a list
of adjustments to those conditions; it wasn't that we
didn't approve it--it's that the conditions were not
satisfactory to Mr. Boccato.
c. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison
for May 14, City Council meeting.
Planning Director
Manhattan Avenue
4/23/91 meeting.
conditional issue.
Schubach noted Dan's Liquor at 3232
was on the Agenda ( continued from
Director Schubach said this is a
2. Appeal from the Planning Commission's decision of the
conditions of approval for a Conditional Use Permit
for the off-sale of general alcohol at 3127 Manhattan
Avenue, Boccato's Groceries.
3. Appeal of the Planning Commission decision to deny a
Conditional Use Permit and Tentative Parcel Map #20822
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for a 3-unit condominium conversion at 23 Barney
court, 18 & 20 Meyer Court.
d. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda for May 21
Planning Agenda.
14. PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. C.U.P. for an existing auto repair shop at 1402
PCH, Folded Wings Ltd.
2. C.U.P. for auto body repair and painting, auto
sales and general auto repair at 210 PCH, Felder's
Body Shop and Sales.
3. 2nd quarter General Plan amendment: a) Biltmore
Site.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
15.
1) Speeding on Hermosa Avenue and 2nd; was
traffic signal appropriate 2) Discussion of when
CALTRANS will restripe PCH 3) When will ticketing
begin for cars parked on the Strand.
Adjournment
Commission voted to adjourn the meeting and Chairman
Ketz so moved. Meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning
Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of May 7, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairwoman Michael Schubach, Secretary
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BEACH HELD ON APRIL 16, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M .. by Chmn. Ketz
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Rue.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Al so Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks_. Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Sct1ubach_. Planning Director;
Edv·rnrd Lee_. Assistant City Attorney_:
Naoma Val des_. Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Cornm. Rue_. seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve the minutes as amende,j
and the ba I a nee of the f o 11 owi n!J consent ca I endar i terns as presented.
Planning Commission minutes of April 02_. 1991 as amended by Comm. Di Monda on page
11, paragraph four to read_, " .... J1r. Cleland replied that at U-1e time the project was
started, three years ago,. ...... and on page 12, paragraph five to read, " ... Mr. Cleland replied
that Pat Ki ll an was the original architect.. .. ".
Resolution P.C. 91-17. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITV OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PARKING PLAN FOR AN AUTO BODV REPAIR AND PAINTING
ESTABLISHMENT AT l 081 -1087 AVIATION BOULEVARD .. LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS 49
AND 50, AND THE SOUTHERLV 58 FEET OF LOTS 47 AND 48. HERMOSA HEIGHTS TRACT.
Resolution P.C. 91-19. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITV OF
HERt10SA BEACH, CALIFORNIA_, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-
SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
FOR 3127 MANHA TT AN AVENUE, BOCCATO'S GROCER I ES, AND LEGALL V DES CR I BED AS THE
EASTERL V 20. 15 FEET OF LOT 12 AND LOT 14, BLOCK 104, SHAKESPEARE TRACT.
Resolution P.C. 91-21. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENVING A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND
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TENTATIVE PARCEL f'1AP '20822, FOR A 3-UNIT CONDOMINIU~-1 CONVERSION PROJECT AT
23 BARNE\' COURT, LEGALL\' DESCRIBED AS LOT 24, TRAFTON HEIGHTS TRACT.
Resolution P. C. 91-23. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITV OF
HERl'"10SA BEACH, CALIFORNIA_. APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT_. VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22892 AND PRECISE DEVELOPl1ENT PLAN FOR A 2-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 1639 PROSPECT AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 11 , J. 11.
FLORES SUBDl\i'ISION.
Resolution P. C. 91-24. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING C0~1MISSION OF THE CITV OF
HERMOSA BEACH_. CALIFORNIA_. TO AMEND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EXISTING
RESTAURANT 'w'ITH BEER AND WINE SERVICE TO ALLOW A SPECIAL EVENT FOR BENEFIT
PURPOSES (ANNIVERSARY PARTY) ON APRIL 14, 1991, AND CONTINUING ON AN ANNUAL
BASIS, SUBJECT TO PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL , IN THE OUTDOOR COURTVARD AT
934 HERMOSA AVENUE.. CAL I FORNI A BEACH REST AURA NT, AND LEGALL V DES CR I BED AS
LOTS 27, 28, 29_. AND 30, TRACT 1564.
Resolution P. C. 91-25. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COt1MISSION OF THE CITV OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A RH)UEST FOR AN EXCEPTION FROl"l SECTION
13-7(6) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOVv' AN ADDITION TO AN EXIST ING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 239 29TH
STREET, AND LEGALL I/ DESCRIBED AS LOT 37, BLOCK 115, SHAKESPEARE TRACT.
AVES: Comms. Di Monda, t1arks, Pierce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUHL IC
Jim Rosenberger, 1121 Bay vi evt Ori ve, addressed the Cammi ssi on and urged the Planning
Cammi ssi on members to attend the City Council meeting of Tuesday, April 23, 1991 _.
because the Council is scheduled to discuss four or more ballot propositions dealing V·titt1
height and land use issues. He stresse,j that this ''1-lc!S not a public hearing; the Council
was ready to act and put these. measures on the ballot.
Director Schubach responded to Commission questions by statir11~ that he did not kno1,-v if
the Council ·vvouM vote to put these items on the ballot at the next rneetin!J, but staff had
been instructed to prepare the language and the Ordinance form for discussion . The
issues were hvo mandatory height limits for R-2, R-3, and Commercial zones, and
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advisory measures for housing standards and iand use, such as stringiine averaging
setbac~~s.
The Housing Improvement Program had been put on hold by the Counci1 until they had a
vote of the people _. explained Director Schubach. Information on these issues would be
avai1able Thursday evening when the Council packets were distributed and at that time
copies 'vvould be made available for the Planning Commission.
CUP 91-7 --CONDITIO NAL USE PERM IT FOR AN EX I ST I N6 DR I VE-THRU
RESTAURANT AT 1107 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, WIENERSCHNITZEl
RESTAURANT_
Director Schubach e~<plained that Wienerschnitzel submitted an application for a C.U.P. in
response to a letter sent by tt·1e city as part of the amortization program for uses that
require C.U.P.'s that preexisted before the requirement. C.U .P.'s are required for drive-
through or take-out restaurants and no record of a C.U.P. 'ft'as found at u-1e time the
letters were sent.
It was recently discovered, however, that the sub_iect restaurant already has an active
C.U .P., granted in 1973. As such , a new C.U.P. is not necessary. The entire submittal fee
wil 1 be refunded to Wi enerschnitze I.
MOTION to receive and file vv·as so ordered by Chrnn. Ketz vv·ith the consensus of the
Cammi ssi on .
CON 90-22 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22560 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION AT 544 & 546 25th STREET
(CONTINUED FROM 2/ 19, 3/ 19. AND 4/02 MEETINGS)
Director Schubach presented the staff report dated April 11, 1991, and recommended
approval of the requested conditional use permit and tentative map subject to the
conditions in the proposed resolution of approval.
At the meeting of April 2, 1991, the Planning Cornm1ssion again continued this request to
enable staff to confer •with the Attorney to determine if an acceptable method of
guaranteeing the improvements of the front unit, in lieu of actua1ly completing the
improvements prior to the final map approval _. could be accomplished .
A meeting vv·as held \·Vith staff, the applicant, an official from a performance bond
company, and the City Attorney to discuss the matter. Although it \•11as never verified
that this method has been used in other locations to guarantee on-site improvements, the
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City Attorney was satisfied that the City v1oul d be adequately protected vv•ith a
performance bond.
The perf orrnance bond would only be acceptable, however, if a temporary construction
easement is granted to the City in the chance the applicant would det"ault on the
guarantee, and as such the City, or its designee, could enter upon the property to
complete the improvements.
As such, a condition is being included to require either the completion of the remodeling,
as shown on the plans, and to address the deficiencies noted in the building inspection
report prior to approval of a final map, or, that the applicant guarantee seiid
improvements with a completion bond in an amount of $75,000 dollars and the
recordation of a temporary construction easement, both of which to be in a form
satisfactory to the City Attorney.
In response to a question from Chmn. Ketz, Asst. City Attorney Lee stated that his office
vv·as satisfied that the performance bond, at one and one half times the estimated value
of the improvements, together ·•,'\1 ith the temporary construction easement, that would
a1'o'.¥ the City to go onto the property and complete the improvements in case. of default
by the appellant, were acceptable and would be sufficient to secure the City·s position to
insure completion even tr,ough the Final Parcel Map had been approved. The conditions
within the proposed Resolution were acceptable to the City Attorney's office as
reviewed.
Comm. Di Monda as~~ed if there \,.las a ti me limit to the project?
Asst. City Attorney Lee answered that there \¥as no negotiated time limit, but one could
be provided in the construction easement if the Commission desired. And, he pointed out
that the bond was at the developer's risk.
Director Schubach added there V\"as a two year time limit on the Conditional Use Permit.
Comm. Di t·1onda questioned if there were a more accurate method of estimating Urn
construction cost, such as seeing the actual contract.
Chmn. Ketz wished to allow the appellant to respond.
Pub He Hearing opened at 7: 15 P.ft by Chmn. Ketz.
Ron Hobbs, 544 25th Street, Hermosa Beach, a partner in the project, addressed tt-1e
Corn mission and stated that at the meeting with Di rector-~;chubach, Asst. City At tornew
Lee .. and the representative from Urn bonding company, the City's main concern was \•Vith
the Condominium Code, new tt,inqs and chanqes that ha,j been acMed. since u·,e house was
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buiit, and \.I/hat improvements couid be done so that the house would comply with the
Code now . The major problem was ttrn bids that he was getting encompassed everything:
kitchen cabinets, bathtubs, toilets, and other items that ,,vere of no concern to the City .
Therefor tt1e bids would not be accurate for the City's needs. for this reason , it was
decided that the Building Department make the estimate and add a 50% contingency
factor.
Comm . Marks asked how the figure of $50_,000 had been determined if there were no
specifics on what had to be done, and questioned if there 'vvere plans.
Mr. Hobbs responded that the items had been specified in the actual physical inspection
and that he had plans which had been approved by the Building Department. He continued
that bids on the actual improvements would have been abstract bids and not accurate for
the City.
Di rector Schubact1 explained that the City felt more comfortable with the estimates
from tt1e Building Department as that department had the construction knovv·l edge, cost
figures and expertise; and was not as likely to make a low bid, therefor the estimate
\Atould tre more accurate.
Comm. Marks asked if inflation hao been considered .
Asst. City Attorney Lee stated that there ·vvas a line itemization of the improvements_: it
was part of the housing inspection report; it was Y.lithin the documents provided to the
Building Director and used as a basis for his estimate. He continued that the 50% factor
was to guard against inflation or contingencies .
Mr. Hobbs finalized by saying that he felt the City was protected ·with the performance
bond and urged the Commi ss1 on to approve the pro J ect.
Public Hearing ·was closed at 7:22 P.M . by Chrnn. Ket.z.
In response to Comm. t1arks question of 'flt1ether this type of contract had been done
before in Hermosa Beach, Asst. City Attorney Lee answered that he had prepared
temporary construction easements before that allovfed City forces to go on private
property, but it was unusual for the City to bond for on-site improvements; however, in
this case the City was requiring certain 1mprovements to be performed as a condition for
the conversion of the duplex to a condominium, and he v·rns comfortable that this was an
acceptable arrangement.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Peirce to approve the staff
recommendation and approve P. C. Resolution 91-22.
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AVES:
NOES:
Comms. 01 t1onda, Pierce, Rue, Chmn . Ketz
Comm. Marks
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Counci 1 \•Vi thin ten days.
CUP 90-29 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON -SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL,
ENTERTAINME NT AND DANCING, AN D ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONME NT AL
NEGATIVE DECLARAT I ON AT 30 PIER AVENUE, LIGHTHOUSE CAFE (CONTI NUED
FROM JANUARY 15, 1991 MEETING).
Director Schubach presented the staff report dated April 11, 1991, and recommended
approval of the Conditional Use Permit, subject to the conditions contained in the
proposed Resolution.
Si nee the 1 ast meeting of January 15, 1 991 , the app 11 cant has olJtai ned the adv1 ce of an
audio expert .. David Covelli, headmaster of audio for the Ahmanson Theatre in regard to
sound levels and conttiinment. t1r. Covelli has made the following recommen,jations .
To contain mid and high frequencies:
1) "Dutch" door 'v'v'est of the main entrance must be sealed inside and out with
weather stripping;
2) replace e~:isting front window with double pane tempered glass_:
3) main P.A . cabinets should be focused from the north and south ends of the
room, tilted do·-rm toward t11e seating areas.
To contain the l ov•rnr frequencies:
l) completel~J eliminate the lov•ter freQuencies from the main cabinets;
2) repair, block-in, and seal the sk!Jlights_:
3) replace crncked panes of glass;
4) r-ecaulk existing panes of glass;
5) ltne u·,e towers below t~,e sl(yli1~hts with velour curtains;
6) l eave the e;<haust fan on at all times; and,
7) instan a sound absorbant deflector bm1rd directly below H1e
exhaust fan on south end of the room.
In response to staff's inquiry regarding the applicant's plans to implement tt1e proposed
corrections, the applicant hes state,j that the4 plan to irnplement all recomrnen,jations , ·-.
have completed some and v1i1l complete tt1e remainder within 30 days.
A letter from Ms. Carol Rober-ts, regional manager for Hennessey·s Tavern, Inc., indicates
that the business is more closely monitoring the volume levels of the performing bands,
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and has improved the voiurne monitoring equipment. ~ne aiso stated that they have even
banned t\-vo live bands that were reluctant to keep the volumes down.
The Police Department indicates that no complaints have been received so far this year
regarding noise, and that the Dusi ness has been managed properly and kept under contro 1.
However, it was noted that the past 3-4 months is the slow part of the season, and the
real test as to vvhether or not noise and other issues will be a problem \-Vill be in the
upcorni n!1 summer months.
In regard to the conditions of approval, Director Schubach continued, staff t1as modified
the recommended conditions to specifically require that these proposed improvements be
made to address noise concerns and completed within 60 da~s. The remaininQ
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recommended conditions essent i a 11 y remain except:
The previous recommendation to require air-conditioning has been removed in
recognition of the acoustical w·ork being done and the app Ii cants i ndi cation that
air flo·vv is not a problem . However, staff still believes that the use of air
conditioning would be advantageous as there will always be temptat1on to open
doors and \"lindows ·tthen large crowds are present on hot days or evenings.
Further, the hours of operation were an issue brought up by the applicant at the
last meeting. Although the applicant has requested unrestricted hours, staff is
no\•V recornmendi ng restrictions si mi 1 ar to those imposed by the City Counci 1 on
Hennessey's: weekdays from 7:00 P.t1. to 1 :30 A.M._; weetends and holidays from
2:00 P.M. to 1 :30 A.M.
Also, staff has modified condition No. 14 to read that an orderly waiting line and
doorman be required only for the front door, and that the rear door shall not be
used as an entrance, at the applicant's request.
In regard to previous condition No. 19_. \,'y"hich was recommending requiring food
service from 11:00 A.M. to 10:00 PJ1._. the applicant noted Urnt the business is open
for breakfast on weekends and that food service is ahva~s available in the
summer. Staff has eliminated the condition as food service does not have to be
required since this is a bar. As far as the operation of the bar is concerned_. the
hours are unrestricted and only subject to State Low.
Staff is satisfied that the proposed irnprovernents, if accomplished in accordance wHh
the directions given by Mr. Cove 11 i .. vvi 11 serve to reduce the noise i rnpact. Whether or not
the noise Vv"ill be re1juced to levels that wouM meet tt1e noise ordinance will be subject
to testing in the future.
Public Hearing opened at 7:26 P.M. by ctrnm. f<etz.
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Paul Hennessey, owner of the Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and
stated that everything \,•vas proceeding on schedule_. he felt that the improvements could
be completed within 30 days, but he v-1as grateful the staff had recommended 60 day
completion in case of somethinq unexpected.
Mr. Hennessey requested unrestricted hours of entertainment. He stated that there ,,vas a
40 year history of jazz entertainment at the Lighthouse, throughout U-1ose 40 years there
had never been restrictions on the hours of entertainment _. and it Yv·oul d be very difficult
if restrictions vvere imposed on breakfast music, morning auditions or fundraisers
starting in the morning hours .
Comm. Rue questioned if there could be a compromise that would limit the number of
musicians or the volume of noise during certain hours.
Mr. Hennessey replied U-1at v•10ul ct be f1 ne vvith hi rn as they norma 11 y only had a trio in for
lunch entertainment, but sornetirnes the group would have a friend sit in with them or
have someone audition wiU-1 them_. therefor it '•Nas very difficult to limit the size
abso 1 ute l y.
In response to a question from Comm. ~~ue _. Director Schubach agreed that the primary
concern of staff was with the noise issues_. and the type of attraction had a great deal to
do w·ith the amount of noise. For example a piano player did not create the same noise
l eve 1 that a 1 ar-ge band created.
Comm. Marks Questioned the e>~pertise of Davi1j Covelli, if he \•Vas an acoustic en!Jineer,
what studies he had done to determine his recommendations'? \
t'lr. Hennessey said that he could not ansvv·er any technical questions; onl!d that Mr. Covelli
had done sound checks for l\'vo days; had played the music and taken readings within the
building, the results of ··Nhich t·1ad been submitted to the Planning Department.
Director Sctmbach responded that r,e was satisfied \•Vith the recommendations submitted
by Mr. Covelli as tt1ey \Nere almost identical to the recommendations submitted by
another acoustic engineer for a business nearb!J that had been successful. But, the Cit~d
st i 11 t·,ad its noise Ordinance for contro 1 and if the design didn't work to reduce the noise
levels, the o·vvner coul1j be cited and required to make additional improvements .
In response to Comm. Marks question of hm•v Mr. Cove 1l i would work, if he \•voul ct corne
back and ta~:e readings to ensure that the noise vvas contained; Mr. Hennessey replied U-,at
he had not considered that far in advance, tiut he assumed that reacti ngs woul 1j be ta~(en
after everynii ng was completed, and if the improvements were not enough to contain the
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sound to an accept ab i e i eve i, then more recommendations vv·ou id be rnade. t1r. Hennessey
stated that he ··..vas \Alilling to do whatever it takes to compl!d-
Comm. Marks questioned the time frame for completion and v•rns told by t-1r. Hennessey
that work was approximately half done, with the more expensive double paned glass and
skylight repair still to be done, but he was confident that it v·tould be completed within
30 days.
Comm. Rue asked if the dllapidated roof sign could tie restored, since it had been there
for a long time.
Mr. Hennessey replied that he hoped to restore the sign, already had one bid and had
someone working on it.
Public Hearing closed at 7:38 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
Comm. Rue commented on the unrestricted hours tr,at had been requested by Mr-.
Hennessey, to say that he felt 1f the music is contained, it didn't make any ,jifference
\•vhen the entertainment starts because the hours of ooerntion for the bar \·Vere not
within the Commission's jurisdiction. He continued by saying that exceptions had been
made before for o 1 der es tab Ii shments such as the rylerrnai d_. and tie, personal 1 y, did not
have a prob 1 em with unrestricted t·1otJrs. He then questioned Di rector Schubach regarding
condition 4D to ask how· much time \•Vas given to correct the sound if measurements
taken confirmed that the sound vv·as not contained to allowable levels?
Director Schubach said that they gave an initial warning letter, then a second ·warning,
then the!J i ssuect a citation. The entire process of two 1 etters and a citation coul ct take
between one to three months depending on the work load of staff.
Comm. Rue questioned staff regarding condition I OA, the roof sign, saying that is was
very small, had historical significance, and he ·vvould like to see it restored.
Director Sctrntrnch replied tt1at he would have to read tt"1e siw1 Ordinance, as si!Jns 'Nere
administered through tt1e Building Department, to determine 1f it were possible to keep
the sign, since there now were provisions regarding roof signs and most roof signs \•Vere
no J anger permitted.
In response to Comm. Rue·s question of the finding of historical value to the roof sign as
an overriding factor, Director Schubach stated that it ·vvould not make a difference at
tt1is time. ScJ,ubach continued that a text amendment 'NOuld t·,ave to t,e prepared that
dealt with historical values, and although signs had not been considered , such an
amendment vvas being considered as part of tt1e land use element in regard to structures.
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Director sct1uoach also mentioned that tr1e cay has something in the recently passed
non-conforming Ordinance concerning historical buildings, but it didn't say anything
i:1bout signs.
Comm. Rue commented that ttl1s may be the only sign in tov•m that has been up this long.
Comm. Peirce expressed his opinion regarding the hours of operation, the amtdent noise
level outside is less in the morning and early afternoon hours than in the evening, due to
traffic and more business in the eveninqs, therefor he felt it would be appropriate to
a1lov,1 operation in the mornings with restricted use .. such as unamplified music \•Vith no
more than three members to a band.
Chmn. Ketz stated that she was more concerned with noise than the hours of operation_:
st·1e f e 1t if the sound were contained 'vVithi n the building and met the noise Ordinance,
then there should be no restrictions.
A brief discussion ensued in order to clarify the \•vording for the changes to tt1e proposed
Resolution
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chrnn. Ketz to approve P.C. Resolution 91-8, changing
condition No. 1 to read, 'The hours for live entertainment shall be unrestricted. A)
exceptions to the above are: 1) starting hours for live entertainment shall be 8:00 A.M.,
throughout the week.; 2) closing hours for live entertainment shall be 1:30 AJ-l ,
throughout the "vveek; and, 3) a maxi rnum a three entertainers sha 11 be a 11 ov•ted behveen
the hours of 8:00 A.t1. and 11:00 A.M., tt1roughout the vvee~(.", an1j amending condition No.
1 OA to read_. "The roof sign shall be removed, or restored if still in compliance V·tith the
City sign Ordinance.".
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Peirce
None
None
Mr. Hennessey stepped forward to thank the Commission and say that he intended to
complete the \•York \'\1 ithin 30 da~dS, with the exception of the roof sign which could take
longer. Director Schubach replied that would be no problem.
Ctunn . Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may t,e appealed by
writing to U1e City Council within ten days.
The meeting recessed at 7:53 PJ1., in order to allow the Public Vlorks Departrnent to set
up equipment for its presentation.
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The meeting reconvened at 8:05 P.M.
P-10 --VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS .
Chmn . Ketz declared a potential conflict of interest due to living in the stud~d area_. and
asked Asst. City Attorney Lee to express an opinion .
Asst. Citw Attornew Lee stated that Chmn. Ketz had advised him that she owns propertw
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that is directly affected by this decision; under the Political Reform Act and the
regulations of the Fair Political Practices Committee there is a presumption of a
material affect upon the financial interests of Ct1mn. Ketz unless the decision that is
reached would be the same for the public generally_: given the fact that the number of
parcels represent less than 10% of the City area, our opinion is there is a materifJl affect
and Chmn. Ketz should not participate.
At this time_. Chmn. Ketz turned the meeting over to Vice Chairman Peirce; left Urn ,jais_:
and 1 ef t tt1e room.
V. Chmn . Peirce requested a staff report.
Director Schubach said that the major presentation would be !Jiven by Lynn Terry, Deputy
City Engineer, for the Public Works Department, stwwing the problem the City had with
encroactur,ent parking on City owned easements along the east and west side of Beach
Drive . He continued by suggesting two possible recommendations from staff:
1) use a conditional vacation method to return the unused City land to the public;
or,
2) an encroachment permit process as currently used .
The biggest concern for the City, affecting many areas other than the walk streets_. ''1°'18S
the question of liability. Since it was City property that was being used, the City would
be ultimately liable if someone were injured. •
Vlt1en an encroachrnent permit is issued, tt1e City requires insurance. If this method is
used ior all the parcels oi City o'fmed land no 1N being used by adjacent homeowners,
there could be over 1 _.000 encroachment permits_. each 'l'lith an insurance policy , to
administer and maintain.
Director Schubach suggested that tonight tt1e Comrnission might wish to nsrrow the
issue to U1e parking problern on the east and \•Vest sides of Beach Drive _, and if time
permitted, discuss how to implement the vacation or encroachment permit question. He
felt that if tt1e Commission v·tished to look at some of the other areas of the City, the
best decision would be to continue the matter and as~( for a more thorougt1 analysis .
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V. Chmn. Peirce as~rnd U-1e commlssion if there \·vas concurrence to decide on ttrn land use
on Beach Drive tonigt1t, then focus on the implementation ff time pet-mitted.
Lynn Terry, of the Hermosa Beach Public Works Department, began the presentation with
the use of a slide projector and st.ate,j the information was being given to assist the
Planning Commission to review and determine ho·vv best to stwjy the issue.
Mr. Terry gave background by saying the City Manager's office has received a nurnber of
complaints about pat-king along the walk streets. The City Manager has also received
complaints about vet1icles parking in "vvhat appears to be "front yards" but is really public
right-of-w·ay. On August 14, 1990, the City Council authorized staff and the Planning
Cornmi ssi on to review the City's Ordinances and enforcement of parking v-tithi n the
setback area, with the intent to prohibit such parking.
Pedestrian -...va 1 k streets -...vi tt-li n the City of Hermosa Beach, 1Nhere vehi c 1 e parking is
possible in U-1e public right-of-·Y"v·ay, for tt1e most part are those east-west streets
located v•test of Hermosa Avenue and east of the Strand.
The majority of these public streets are sixty feet in 'Nidth. Hov•,iever, only the center
sixteen feet of tlie street right-of-v-1a~J is paved witli concrete. The remaining right-of-
way width is equally divided \¥ith twenty tv...-o feet of public right-of-wa~d t:i"long each
side of the walk street. Thls is the area where it is currently possible to park up to 200
vehicles and that the Commission will be reviewing.
In response to a question from Comm Marks, Mr. Terry said that no cars had City
permission to park on t~1e public right-of-way.
Starting with the General Plan, Mr. Terry continued v·tith his analysis by exple1ining the
Open Space Element. The underlying philosoph~d of the Open Space an,j Conservation
Element is to preserve and enhance the existin~ green areas, and to increase the total
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open space areas ·within possible financial ability. •
Streets comprise nearl!J one third of u-ie City's area, and considering the small size of
private lots and minimal yards, these streets provide much of the "elbow room" \AfHhin
the community. For this reason, these streets should not only be preserved but developed
for maximum impact as green areas of liln,jscaped ribbons throughout the City.
The stated qoals and policies of the Open Space Element are:
1) To obtain and preserve open spaces 'ftithin the City 1 imits of Hermosa Beach_.
sufficient to provide for anticipated needs of both present and future residents.
2) To obtain, preserve, and entrnnce green areas, such as strnet landscape strips,
mini-parks and par~=:ways as being necessary to the health and well being of the
cornrnuni tl-J.
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3} To provide room for, and adequate protection of, bikev·mys, pedestrian routes
and trai Is.
4) To provide for the retention and further beautification of streets as open
spaces, and to encournge further use of same as pedestrian walkways, malls and
plazas_ Streets_. 'v'v'hen closed for vv·hatever reason_. should be retained where.
practical and used for shopping ma1ls_. where zoning is appropriate or part of the
bicycling and '-l-ialkway system.
5) An!-! street not currentl!-1 needed for vehicular access rna!-1 be landscaped and
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used as t1i eye le and/ or pedestrian v·.iays.
The Circulation Element approved by the Cit!d Council on August 14_. 1990_. includes a City
Policy that states, "The Cit!J shall maintain its system of walk streets which
contributes to neighborhood identity an,j cohesiveness and near the beach provides a safe
and attractive access s4stem for pedestrians, which is part i cul iWI 4 important for
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children, handicapped and seniors. These 1nalk street areas shall be landscaped and
lfgMed and also designated as open space"_
t1r. Terry read City Code Section 19-6 l(b), which states, "No operntor of any ·-1e~1icle
shall stop_, stand, park or leave standing such vehicle ... \•Vithin any park'.-vay". A Parkv,,ay is
defined as, 'That portion of a street other than a roadway or a sidewalk"_ Section 29-
38(2)(d) states, "Parking of driving on wa 1 k streets is strict 1 y prot1i bited".
Mr. Terry explained that there is a total of t\-venty five \•Valk streets in the City. Of this
number, there are si::< vvalk streets that can only be used by pedestrians and those \·Valk
streets \•Vi ll not be 1ji scussed further.
There is a total of 568 private properties tr,at face or have frontage on the v·rnlk streets
within the study area. t1r. Terry said the majority of those private properties t1ave
fenced off the public right-of-v•11:1y and use that hmd as a pert of their front !Jaros.
However_, onl~J a fev,, of these property o•,,vners have a City permit to use the public Jani::!.
Most of the property O'•Nners do not have permission from the City or' insurance that
protects the City from claims that could occur from within the enclosed public right-of
way. Of the 568 properties along the waif( streets and on the Strand, U1e total number
that do not park on the public right-of-vvay are 517 (or 91 %), leaving 51 properties (or
9%) that use the public right-of-way for parking. Of the 51 properties, 19 are on the
eflst side of Bettch Drive and have vehicles parked in what would be consiijered the front
yard _. and 32 are on the west (or Strand) side of Beach Drive and park in vv·hat would be
considered their side yard.
Mr. T err!J detailed u-,e nurntier of 1 ocat ions v1here parking is possi b 1 e or occurring by
saying there is a total of 69 locations vv·here the parking of vehicles on the public \·VaH(
street rig~1t-of-··Nay is possible. Of that number_. 1 B property ov·mers have fenced or
bloci(ed off the public right-of-v·niy so ttrnt vehicles can not be parke,j at u-,at location_
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At the remaining 51 locations, vet1ic1es are parked on tt1e v,·aJk street public right-of-
v·tay, resulting in appro>{imately 200 parking spaces. All of these properties have
garages on a public assess at the rear of the property. That is the only area '.·Yhere
vehicles should be allowed access to the propertq_
t1r. Terry showed slides of the proper-ties using public street right-of-way for their
private additional parking area.
Tt1e concerns of the City were Ii sted as:
1) Liability is a concern because at locations ·where parl<ing is occurring them is
no private insurance that protects the City. If someone \•Vl'IS hurt \•Vi thin the 22
feet of public right-of-way, the City could be sued as the owner of the property.
\•\''ith encroachment permits, a $500,000 policy, naming the City as additional
insured is required.
2) Some of tt,e adjacent private property owners have installed gates or chains on
Beach Drive along ttrn edge of the street pavement, at the access to the public
property, and do not allovv· the publlc to use the public right-of-'Nay.
3) Some of the ad_tacent private property owners have placed signs on n,e public .
rigM-of-\•vay stating u,at all oU,ers v·tho park u,ere 'Nill be tovted fl'Nay. Ho'Never.,
the land is public ri!~ht-of-way and only the City can have a vehicle tov•1ed a·we~J
from public right-of-way.
4) The staff has been told that some of the adiacent private propertw owners rent . ~
out parking spaces ·vvithin the public right-of-\•vay during the summer and even
year round. This activity is not approved or ackno··Nledged by tt1e City. n-ie
adjacent property O\•vner also keeps the parking income for their private use 1f this
action is ta}zing place.
5) The use of the public ri ght-of-'vvay., along the vvt=1H: streets, for pEJrking is
presently unclear. Because of the impact due to summer time parking, u-1e Ctty has
not enforced the parking code alon!J the walk streets.
6) The removal of all parking from the existing locations will cause a serious
adverse effect on the parking in the beach area . •
7) Carn and trailers stored in tt1e public rig~1t-of-way adversely affect the
aesthetics of tt1e area.
B) Commercial usage by businesses is significant in some areas, especiall~d the
Sea Sprite Motel.
f1r. Terry explained that Manhattan Beach ha,j a similar problem and forme,j a \-'v'alk Strnet
Study Committee in 1969, Vv'ho recommended .. after a ~Jear long study, that the Cit~d
vacate the v~1 a 1 k street ri ght-of-v•,•·ay and thereby a 11 ov•l the use of the vacated proper-ty to
revert to u-,e abutting property ov•n,ers. Because of concerns about t-iigt-,er property ta>::es
to the adJacent property O\·vners, as a result of the vacated land .. the issue of vacating
Uie land '•Nas dropped. Instead, the City of Man~1attan Beach established an encroachment
policq.
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The Hermosa Beach Director of Public Works spol<e 1Nith the tax assessor and was
advised that a reassessment of the vacated land ¥mulct occur shouJd Hermosa Beach
pursue vacating the land.
Mr. Terry then listed possible alternatives, giving pro and con arguments for each:
1) Strict enforcement of no parking and not Edlow any parking on tt1e public walk
street ri gr1t-of-vv·ays.
Pro: The majority of property owners that live along ttie walk streets do
not have the use of public right-of-way for their private parking use. Not allm·ving
an~d parking on the public right-of-way would treat all of the private property
owners equally.
Con: To not allow any parking on the public right-of-way would increase the
number of vehicles that need to be parked on the streets. This action 1,,vould in
crease t~,e parking demand on ttrn streets in the beach area by apprm<imately 200
vehi c 1 e spaces.
2) Change the City Ordinance and al10 1N private parking on the west side of Beach
Drive only, with a City permit an,j parking fee of $0.50 per square foot per month
'v'-tith no conditions. (i.e. no landscaping_, no limit on number of spaces, etc.)
Pro: The City does allow the private use of public street property at four
locations in to~vn and tlie present rate charged for that use is $0.50 per square
foot per month. Tt-,e estimated revenue to the City ·vvould be $6.,400 per month. The
monthly fee vtould ensure tt-iat only needed parking spaces v•,:ould be used_. as
owners would be urn•villing to pay for spaces that \-Vere not used.
Con: V·lith only a par~dng permit and no other requirements, this alternative
1Nould allov·1 preferential treatment to those private owners \"i1 ho 0 1Nn u-ie 32
corner lots on the west side of Beach Drive. In addition to the par~~ing permit_. an
encroachment permit should be reQuired 1/'l'hich would then require landscaping_.
insurance and City control over the total public area. The properties on the east
side of Beach Drive should not be allovv·ed to park in the public street right-of-vv"ay
because they 'l·vould be parking in \•vtrnt is their front yard.
3) Change the City Ordinance and allo 1..v only public parking with meters 'Nest of
Beach Dti ve only.
Pro: This alternative i·vould increase the City's financial picture by
providing additional parking spaces next to the beach that would be in use most of
the time. The City ·would receive additional parking meter income frorn these
spaces year round, estirnated at $12,800 annual incorne. The City would then
control the parking which at this time is not enforced .
Con: Of all ttrn alternatives, this choice would most likely reduce the
quality of life and the aesthetics of the adjacent beach area residences.
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4) Not allm•v any parking and use the 22 feet of public t-ight-of-wa!J for-
landscaping and to beautif~d the beach area.
Pro: This alternative provides the highest quality of l1f e by installing large
landscaped areas for the benefit of all the public that lives at or uses the beach
area. Also, this would improve the image of the community and "vvould have the
largest beneficial effect on the aesthetics of the area.
Con: This alternative increases the demand for on the street parking and
"vvould impact an area that already has a serious pari(ing problem. It appears that
this alternative could add approximatel!--1 200 additional vehicles to the on-street
parking situation. Thais vrnuld have a serious negative parking impact to the Sea
Sprite Motel and t1ickey·s Liquor Store.
5) Vacate the excess public right-of-v•ray to the private property owners on each
side of the street.
Pro: Tt"lis alternative releases the City from the responsibility for those
areas. The Cit!J v11 ould also receive additional taxes from this nevv· private
property added to the communi t!J.
Con: There \~lould be an added City e~<penditure to accomplish a vacation (i.e.
tit I e search, deed recorrjat ion, easement reservation, etcJ A vacflt ion has the
potential of increasing the density of the Cit!J and may not be the best choice.
'w'ithout changes to the zoning code, the City could lose control over the
development of these 22 foot wide areas. The open space standards and aesthetics
of u-1e area ·vvould not be regulated and the image of the community may degenerate
and be degraded in tl'rn tieach area. Someday the cay may \•Vant or need to use the
areas presently in use by the adjacent private property ov·mers. The use of public
ri gr,t-of-v·.iay should instead be contra 11 ed and regulated by revocatil e
encroachment permits .
6) Change the Cit!d Ordinance to allow private parking on the pedestrian walk
streets '•Nest of Beach Drive onl!-j, vv•ith the requirement that the · private use be
regulated by a revocable encroachrnent permit and that parking fees be paid. In
addition, parking should be allowed only in u-1e easterly one-third of the r-igt"it-of-
\•vay v-tith no parking a 11 owed near the Strand v·ta l l.
Pro: This alternative v•wuld provide additional revenue_. reduced liability and
improved aesthetics. Present requirements on encroachrnent permits include, ( 1)
insurance of $500,00_: (2) that the City also be additionally insured; (3) tnat one-
thinj of the public ri!Jht-of-··Nay be landscaped; and, (4) City control.
Con: This will result in a loss of parking spaces for the Sea Sprite Motel
and Micke~J's Liquor Starn.
In summary, Mr Terry said:
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a) The opinions among the various department staffs differ on tr1is issue. A single
alternative solution is difficult and a compromise alternative appears to be the
best so 1 ut ion.
b) A zoning Ordinance prohibition or encroachment permit condition for the area
west of Beach Drive should not allow parking in the westerly one-third of the
pub 1 i c street ri ght-of-v•tay areas.
c) Some encroachments are long standing and V·lill create a hardship if removed.
All current encroachments st10uld receive active restrictions to ,jiscouraqe
massive par~(ing areas, stornge of vehicles, driving on \•Yalk streets; and encourage
landscaping, insurance protection and reduced City liability. A 11 new
encroachments should fallow current permit processes.
d) The vacation option needs to be evaluated, although it appears to not be the
best so 1 ut ion.
Mr. Terry concluded his presentation by saying tt1at tv•rn memos were included:
The first from City Manager Kevin Northcraft suggests vacation of the prnperty,
including similar public street right-of-wa1J encroacnrnents on rvlonterey and Prospect
Avenue, and states, " ... Our attorneys advise that the concept of vacating the land is
reasonable to re1juce liability. It 1:!lso recognizes the historical private uses of u,ese
properties. The concern about potential future public uses an,j increased density can be
remedied by the nature of the vacation, and/or zonin!J ct1an!Jes. For example, the vacation
can include covenants that avoid increased bulk and density, preserve utility eat;ements,
and require twededication if a future Council chooses. Current zoning then should be
clarifie,j to prohibit use of front yewds for parking .... ".
The second from Public 'w'orks Director Anthon~J Antich and Planning Director Michael
Schubach recommends_. "Select alternative #6 to change the City Ordinance allm·ving
private parking on the pedesttwian vvalk streets vvest of Beach Drive only, with the
requirement that tt"1e private use be regulated by a revocable encroachment perrnH and
that pari(ing fees be paid. In addition, pari(ing sr1ould be al10 1Ned in only the easterly one-
third of the right-of-way \Nith no parking allo-wed near the Strand wall".
In response to questions_. r1r. Terry rnsponded that there would be apprmdmately 150
parking spaces remaining if alternative #6 where chosen _; the length of tt·,e Strand lots
·vvas an average of 80 feet_: and that no tandem parking had been recornrnended.
Comm. Di Monda questioned the figure of one-third of the lot length for parking and said
he would prefer a uniform amount, such as tt1e easterly t B to 20 feet instead.
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The Hear1ng 'flas opened at B:47 P.f1. by v. Chmn. Pe1rce.
David Schumaker_. 1612 Strand, Hermosa Beach _. addressed the Commission to state that
he has owned five beachfront properties in Hermosa Beach, one of \•Vhich was 1:1t 302
Strand, for the past 25 years and that at no time has he ever been told that the property
could not be used for parking. He said that he was a real estate appraiser by proiession
and felt if the parking v-1ere taken a·-.vay the property would lose 20% of its rnarket value.
He urqed the Cornrni ssi on to 1 eave thi nqs as thew were.
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Pat Con-vin, 31 EiQhth Street, Hennosa Beach, addressed tt1e Commission to
complimented the City on the report; stated he ¥ms a nev\" resident_: that he and his v•.'He
had researched the area before they purchased and were pleflsed by the Cit!d Goo ls thE!t
clearly stated the desire for beautification and open space _: and _. were told that the City
did not allow parking on the publlc wallk street right-of-way. He expressed concern that
the City did not enforce its parking la\•Vs; felt concern for the safety of the children in
the nei qhborhood due to tr1e "For Rent" si qn for parki nQ on tt·1e south east corner of Beach ·-·-....
Drive, 'Ntiich had four spaces rente,j out; and felt tt1at any type of vehicle could be parked
there if somen1ing wasn't done. He asked the City to enforce its m·vn parking la-·NS.
Paul Shank, 1838 Strand, Hermosa Beach, ad,jressed the Commission to Sfl!~, as a 13 year
resident, he felt this was a ver-y complex issue because each street was different. He
questioned the number oj complaints that had been received by the City, and questioned
if tr1ere had actually been a problem of liability rather than a perceived potential, 'v'-lhlch
is a 1 wa4s present. He continued to sa4 he felt it "vvas un f ust to ct·1arqe parki nq fees and ·-·--._ -
that tt"1e cay st"1ould recognize the historical uses of the property , vvhich included
par~j ng . He 1Nas strongly opposed to the idea of pub 1 i c parking because of the increase in
traffic and congestion_. and felt that 01,imers could settle problems, such as the parking of
rec re at i ona l vehicles, among thernse 1 ves.
Steve Meadows, former owner of 542 Strand, Herroosa Beach .. currently the 1.:1rciiitect of
the project being built on the property, addressed the Commission \•vitJ1 regard to new·
construction, sa~~in!~ he coul,j not speak fot-1,,vt·1at has happene,j in the past, but U-1e
plannin!~ process should be considered from here on out. He felt alternative #6 \'Vas the
best solution e~~cept that there st10u1 d not be a charge for parl(i ng; he f e 1 t peop 1 e paid a
premium for corner lots and higher propert!J ta~-~ .. so therefor it \•vas unfair to charge for
parkinq. He did agree that parking should be limited to the eastern one-third of the lot.
In response to questions, r·-·1r. Meadows stated when he first ha1j his plans for the property
approved one year ago, t1e had been told tr1e City land should be strnwn as open area and he
could park four cars triere_: but he did not go at-1ead with the project then, so t-iis permit
ran out; \•vt1en he \•vent the second time he v...-as told he had to enclof;e the area and no
parking ··,·vas allo··Ned. He also responded that the title search t·1ad clearly st1ov11 n ttrnt it
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was City propert~J, not part or the propert!J that he \·vas seiiing, and there ·Nas no
stipulation that parl(ing was allo\ved.
John McFarland, 25 Eighth Street, Her-mosa Beach, a,jdressed the Commission to sa,J that
he was a 50 year resident of Hermosa_. and had lived on Eighth Street for 21 years . For
many of the early years, the property on the southeast corner of Beach Drive and Eighth
Street vv·as owTIer occupied and vv·e 11 rnai ntai ned , then it 'rlas so 1 d to an out of state
investor wtrn tore out the curbs and parked cars on the property, bringing in an extra
rental of $2 _.ooo for the parking on City ov·med property. He expressed the opinion of
Realtors_. that his own property values are substantially 10\•ver than comparable property
in rylemhattan Beach, clue to the la>~ity of parking enforcement in Hermosa. He said U1at
ovvner occupied property ·was not a problem, but usually rental property Vv'as, as it caused
noise _. congestion and unsightly conditions. He \·Vas concerned with the safety problem
1NHh rental parking, and felt that the City had been vepJ lucky not to t1ave had a serious
accident. He concluded by saying that much of the problem was the lack af garage space
due to the storage of boats an,j househoM goods in gan:l!Jes.
Jim Gierlich, 1900 Strand , Hermosa Beach_. addressed the Commission to explain tt1at he
v·rns a 50 year resident of Hermosa _. and a 20 year property owner at that address. \~/hen
he purchased the property it v1as advertise,j as having off-street parking and he had
photos of the house taken in 1933 showing autos parked in the same areas as toda~J Some
years ago _. he continued_. he needed a pennit to rr,ove a fire hydrant in order to have better
access to the parking area·_: '-l-tith the assistance of the w·ater company_. he was granted
the permit approval by u-,e cay, which shows implied permission, or kno·wle,jge_. by tt-,e
City to use the land fot-parking. The mason ~,e chose that location 1,vas the saret~J or the
\•vaH( street for his young child, and he e>,pressed gratitude for the barricades on Beach
Drive that helps provide that safety. He felt that a beneficial solution, for both the City
and the affected residents, could be found since there are so few properties involved.
Tom Allen, 1602 Strand , Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to comrnend Mr . Terry
for the amount of data in the report_. and say that he _. too _. moved a fire hydrant for
parking access_. at a cost of over $10,000. At tr,at tirne, he felt that he had the City's
blessing and involvement in the project as ttie City sho'f/ed t1irn how it coul,j be done. He
felt the primary issues no·w, are t,eautification an,j parking, and that there \•Vas no
correlation bet\Neen beauty and the lack of parking on a property. He mentioned e;-~amples
in the sli,jes that had been shov·n-1, that pictured an unsightly property \htithout parking,
and a we 11 maintained property 'flith parking . He disagreed vv·ith the idea that the City
hljs 1 i ability due to owning the property, ljnd c 1 aimed that the resident owners vvt10
maintain and exercise control of the proper-ty are prirnarny Hable, but H the City \·Vere to
take control of the right-of-W8!JS , then the Cit(d would be prirnaril(J liable. He questione,j
the ability of tt1e City to spend thousands of dollars on landscaping the proper-ty if they
can not afford to fix potholes on Beach Drive . He urged the Commission not to Dase ttieir
decision on isolated instances of par~dng abuses an,j stated that he kne\•V of no garages
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tr1at were not used for pan(ing as it \.Yas a precious commodity. In response to quest1ons,
he stated that he had done extensive landscaping and paving and t-1ad four parking spaces.
Susan McFarland, 25 Eighth Street, Hermosa Beach, ad,jressed the Commission to thank
the Public Works Department for the report_. stating that she had become invo1ved 'vVith
this issue in 1978 when the third curb cut was made in her area for parking; in 1986 she
vvent to the City to supply them ··Nith the information on the study and results in
Manhattan Beach; tonight v,·as tt·1e first ti me tt-iat a public forum had been r1e 1 d, and she
\•Vi st1ed n1e cay to know that this issue V\"as a concern to ttrn residents and users of tt1e
walk streets, which vvere the gateways to tt-ie beact-1. Strn said that hvo \•vee~(s ago she
had watched a 25 year old tree removed to provide a better par~~ing area for a renter
paying $60 per month for the space. And_, in her neighborhood tt"lere is one Strand
property that parks 12 cars on the sides of the lot. Vv'ithin a 100 foot radius there are
fl ve !~arages not used_. t \hto on the Strand and one that is used as a practice room for a
band. She felt that the Comrnission vvould choose alternative #6, and hoped that there
was sorr1e rneans to ~1ave owners and renters refrain from par-kinq extni cars in their-
area. She asked the Commission to set criteria for the space allov1•·ed for parfcing, to set
a definite size limit, such as IO by 20 feet per car-; as one-third of the lot \.Yas too vague
a term and could all0\A/ tandem parking on some lots. She also suggested that the areas
be used for automobiles on1y, and not allow storage of RVs, boats, or long term auto
storage, and that good 1 andscapi ng be re qui red, if possi b 1 e with hedges that shi e 1 d the
areas frorn view.
Ed Nash, 600 Strand, Herrnosa Beacr,_. addressed the Cornmi ssi on to agree t11at the
problem of noise and an unsigt1tly car lot is not pleasant and vv·oul1j precipitate
complaints, but he v'lished t~1e Commission to consider the in-compliance, non-
problematic properties, such as ~1is, 'Nhere pEirking is seldom used, lendscaping is in_. and
$1,000,000 in liability insurance is in force. He asked that something be done about the
problems, but he v1ould object to paying for parking that was seldom used_. and did not
agree with the one-thit-d lot limit, he felt that one half \•vouM be better. He aske,j the
Commission to discriminate betvveen the problem cases and those 1Nho ·were in
cornpliance.
Thelma Greenvvald, 900 Strand, Hermosa Beach, an,j co-o-..-vner of the Sea Sprite Motel,
addressed the Commission to sfly that six and one half ~Jears ago she purchased a 2B unit
f acfl it!~ at Ni nth Street and the Strand wi U1 17 parking spaces, later she purchased
another property sirnply for parking . She uses four spaces on the right-of-way for
parking when her children and grandchildren come to visit and taking that parking now
\•vould be a lrnrdst•iip for her.
Gail Convin, 31 Eighth Street, Herrnosa Beach , addressed the Commission and remarked
that there had been a lot of talk about money and property values, but wt1en they had
purct1ased their home they had paid a premium to live on a 1Nalk street. If they didn't
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care about noise, iack of safety for their chiidren, and unsightiy cars parl<ei:1 rn front
yards_. U-1ey coul ct have bought a trnme for a lot less money_: they 'Nere not getting '•Nhat
they pai ct for. If nothing is done about these conditions when the process is comp 1 eted._. a
lot more people might start parbng in their front yard_. because parking truly is at a
premium, and man!J of her neighbors needed more parking.
Jerry Compton_. G.'w'.C._. Inc ... ad,jressed the Commission and stated that he ·vvas an
architect in town and had ,jone a lot of projects that adjoin the 1ight-of-wa~ ar-eas .. and
it needed to be brought out that the waH( streets were not U1e only places in Hermosa
Beach with public right-of-ways used for the sole benefit of private property m-vner-s. It
was his opinion that these areas should not be subsidized by the public_. but belong to the
people who use them, \¥ith property taxes paid on them. Originally the right-of-v.,1 ays
were to be streets, but the!d were never used for that purpose_. so nO\·V they have become
wide easements .. unused by the Cit!d to the point where many owners think the land
belongs to them. All of MontereId Boulevard has a 20 foot right-of-way on both sides of
the street, in some case::; tt·1e City owns the land up to the t,uilding. v./t1ett·1er parking is
allo 1Ned, lar!Je setbacl<s are required, or one-third of the land is to be planted could be
restricted by the zoning code. The prot,lem v1ith parl(ing on the right-of-way is that it is
not private property, it is not a front yard; if it \¥ere a front yard there could be lav·ts
against parking in a front yard. All ares in town should be turned back to the adjacent
property owners.
Anthony Dre·•Nery, 1540 Strand. Hermosa Beach _. addressed the Commission and stated
that most of the concerns he vvas gotng to address had already been said. But one issue
t,rought up by Jerry Compton nee,jed to be considered by the Planning Commission and tr,e
City Council: ''l'lhy single out the area west of Hermosa Avenue 'Nhen there were so many
other areas 'Nith pub 1 i c ri ght-of-\Nay parking? He l isled: r1onterey Boulevard; Pal rn
Drive; Bayviev,, Drive_: Circle Drive; Loma Drive; 31st Pl-ace; Valle!J Park; Mant1attan
Avenue_: Ocean Drive and probably others .. as streets with right-of-way parking. He also
had two questions. First, had the City Attorney reviewed the legality of each
recommendation, in particular regarding the vacation of the property_. trie City Attorney
should render an opinion. Second, the Cit!J should obtain a title report and a litigation
guarantee •with regard to every piece of property it intends to aHect by any action.
V. Cr1mn. Peirce responded that the Planning Commission intended to look at all the areas
in the City and make their recommendations to the City Council.
Eric Castleman_. 336 Strand, Herrno~;a Beach, addressed the Comrnission to sa~d that the
CittJ needed beautification, and cars parked anywhere e~,:cept in a garn,~e \-Vhere ugl'::L
There should not be parkin!~ allowe,j on tlie ri!~ht-of-vva!J, it shouM be kept an1j
landscaped and turned into true open space. Beautify the city and raise everwone·s
property va 1 ues.
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Howard Longacre, 1221 seventh Place, Hermosa Beach, addressed tt1e commission to say
tr1at he did not have a particular position on this question at this time but he \Nould like
to list some observations: 1) liability insurance for an encroachment is em amendment to
a policy an,j usually can be obtained for little or no cost; 2) regarding the barricades on
Beach Drive, there should be barrica,jes on all the streets in tO\·Vn; 3) Manhattan Beach
property, without ptu-king, is selling at close to three quarters of a million dollars more
than cornparable property in Hermosa_; 4) the City needs to look into the old deeds to the
property because he thought that there might be rights granted with the property to the
use of tt"1e easements; 5) as a civil engineer-, t1e kne\·V that highvvays, created to fill a
need, will be used and create more need _: he thought the same \•Vas true of par~dng. Mr.
Longacre then asked for a point of order to say that in his view there v•n:1s a potential
conflict of interest on the part of V. Cl1mn. Peirce, v•,iho , he believed, was a business
partner of Mayor Sheldon in the ownership of property_. and since Mayor Sheldon owned
property in the subject area and would have to dec1are a conflict when it came before Urn
City Council_, Mr. Peirce should declare his business relationship with l"tayor Sheldon and
step ,jov·m also.
George Lanz, 17 Si>~teenth Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to comment
that he lived on the east side of Beach Drive, and if alternative #6 were the choice of the
Commission, he saw no rationale frnm the report given for the exclusion of the east side,
and encouraged the Commission to make no such restrictions. Parking encroachment on
public right-of-way appeared to be a CHy-wi,je problem_. therefor it seerned logical to
exarnine t11e the problem in total and not fraqment it as it ·.,.-...-as possible that a different
recomrnendation would be found for some ottrnr part of U1e cit~.
Adriana Kusion, 192B Stran,j, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to present the
concerns of a renter at that address for rive years b!d stating that \•vhen the barricades
were down on Beach Drive, it became a highway, During the surnmer rnonths the
teenagers would park in the alleys at 2:00 in the morning, drinking and playing their
radios full blast, if public parking were allowed this would happen all ~Jear long . She felt
taking the barricades do\•Vn for public parking V•r'Ould increase tt·1e chance of an accident
and tt1e City's liability.
The Hearing ·...vas closed at t 0:00 P.M. by V. Ct1rnn. Peirce, \•Vho wisherj to point out to Uie
audience that this was a hearing, but not a pub 1 i c hearing .
Responding to a question of the ultimate "1jeep pockets" from Comm. Rue, Asst. City
Attorney Lee sai ,j that the City t1a,j the pri rnar!J responsibility and l i abi1 i ty for an!J injury
on the prnperty. AltJ1ougr1 tt·,e adjacent propert!d owner would be named in a negligence
suit, the Cil!J ·vvoul,j also be named. There vvas a !Jreater r-isk to the City by allowin!J
private use of the property V·littwut appropriate covera!J8, because it di,j not relieve the
City of its 1i ability H the owner tlas made i rnprovernents.
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V. Chmn. Peirce asked if the City Councii vvanted the entire thing or 'Nouid they accept a
piece at a time?
Lynn Terry sai,j that he was not sure; because the entire number of properties ¥rns so
large, staff was trying to break 1t down into portions that could be handled .
V.Chmn. Peirce said that tonight they vvould just consider the land use for Beach Drive
and have the implernentation researct·1ed in rnore detail.
Asst. City Attorney Lee agreed ttrnt 1Nould be rnost appropriate; ,jepending upon the
decision regarding the land use .. the Cittl Attorney·s Office \•vould review the
irnplernentation; i.e. if the ,jecision was to allov·t parkin!l, the options of encroachment or
vacation could be brought back in more detail. with the various restrictions possible .
In response to Cornm. Di Manda's question regarding title search .. Asst. City Attorney Lee
ans\•vered that would depend on ttrn land use decision and tt1e implementation chosen. If
you -.,,vant to vacate the property then the question turns on \•vho ov·ms the underlying fee
on the area once it is vacated. If in fact it lrns been conveyed over by the City, and the
City has u,e underlying fee title to the property .. then the decision to vacate would leave
the ne:t.t step to sell the property. If the underl~Jing fee belongs to the adjacent property
owner .. then vacation would provide automatic reversion back to the propert~J ov•mer.
Director Schubach ansvv·ered the question of the possible tax assessment increase to
adjacent proper-ty owners in the event of vacation b~J sayin!~ that the arnount '•Nas not
knov·m at this tirne, but a meeting \·Vas in the process with the tax assessor for this area
to determine that question.
Asst. City Attorney Lee stated ttrnt under current law the property in question is public
right-of-way, and even though the City had not enforce1j its rights in the past it had the
right to begin enf orcernent now of the rules "vvithin the r-1unicipal Ordinances. In t•,is
opinion, there w·as no estoppel to prevent the City from beginning enforcement actions to
re qui re parking be removed or-the pub 1 i c right-of-way be kept open as re qui red under the
present cay Code. He contlnued _. that in regard to \·Vt"1ether or not there vvas some sort of
prescriptive easement or prescriptive right that has accrued to each of these property
ov·mers t,ecause of the 1 ength of ti me that has passed_. that is an issue that our office
1Nould have to research. t1r . Lee st;:ite,j thi'Jt his prelimini'Jr~J response would be that it
v·tould be against public policy to allovv some sort of a,jverse possession to accrue to a
pri Vl:ite person over public property.
In response to a question from Comm. Marks, Asst. City Attorney Lee responded that the
City Attorney·s Office represented the public in general and the City's interest is in ttrn
benefit of the public in general. His office would not provide representation to each
i ndi vi dual property O'·Nner wt10 may t,e l i eve he had a private property ri grit in putil i c
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walkways. If there ·vvas an issue mat tt,e City wanted to ~:no 1N vmat its pos1t1on ,,vas in
regard to that issue, tt·,en the direction 1Nould come from the Planning commission or the
City Councn to loot into that issue, but it could not come from an individual or a group of
= individuals. Mr. Lee continued, that he would issue an opinion in confidentialit!-l to the
Planning Commission and/ or the City Council, advising of the CH!/S 1 ega 1 rights \·vith
respect to enforcement on these walkways and only in that context.
Comm. Rue comrnented that he fell that the General Plan vv·as the overridinQ document for
the City. Both Open Space and Parking \•Vere very large factors in that plan, a compromise
\•vas needed ~,ere and alternative #6 seemed a decent compromise_. as trying to maintain
open space 'NOUld be onerous on all the people 'Nho had the use of the property for many
years. Therefor he v·rnuld support: a tv10 car maximum, side by side, with landscape
maintained along the walk street _. autos only, no RVs or boats, and maximum height for
fences end landscaping .
Cornrn. Di Monda pref erred a 1irnit of 1 S to 20 feet on par~(ing, landscape rngulation
stipulating no contiguous hardscape, a delineation to prevent autos from moving forward
beyond a certain point_. space bet -..-veen street and property, and a request that staff al so
pursue vacation proceedings.
,Jerry Compton suggested that parking radius be considered.
MOTION by Comn·1. Rue_. seconded by Comm. Di Monda to continue this item to the meeting
of May 21, 1991, at 1..vhich time staff vvould provide more detailed inforrnation_, •y•v•ith the
understandin!~ that the focus \·Vas on Alternative #6 and U-1e irnplementation of vacation
versus encroactm·,ent. It \•Vas f w-ther understood that staff would pro vi de more details
on the follo\hting criteric1: tv-to car ma>-~imum_; side by side parking; no tandem parking
allowed; access directly from Beach Drive; separation betvveen landscaping and parking
area_: landscaping along the w·alk street separating the walk street from par~Jng _: no
allowance for Recreational Vehicles such as RVs, boats or others; the purpose of parking
is for automobiles only; height of fences and landscaping to be addressed_: and, depth
appropriate with turnin!] radius of the alley. In addition, staff was directed to return
1.-vith information pertaining to the legal conseQuence of the possible actions and 1f there
would be major tax consequences to tt1e ov·mers in the event of vacation .
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT :
Comms. Rue, Di t1onda, V. D·,mn. Peirce
Comm. Marks
Chrnn. Ketz
None
The rneetinQ recessed at 10:22 PJ'l.
The Meeting reconvened at 10:25 P.M.
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\ Chmn. Ketz returned to the dais.
RESOLUTION OF lt4TEt4T TO STUDY ADULT USES_
Director Schubach presented the staff report saying that this 1Nas originall~J a part of the
land use element but the Comrnission had placed it on tr1e list of special studies _. and now
would be a !]Ood tlrne to start as the housing element \·Vas on hold. The staff
recommendation ·vvas to direct staff as deemed appropr1 ate .
Tt1e Hearing vtas opened at 10:28 PJl. by Chmn. Ketz.
Howard Longacre_. 1221 Seventh Place _. Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to ask
exactly what staff was going to study .
Di rector Sct1ubach responded that tt1i s studw had been suqqested bW the Citw A ttornew due .,_ .,_ .._ ·-.,_ ....
to new case lavv· that made the current City law outdated. The study pertained to
locatton in relation to residential areas_. schools and ct1urct1es and any potential impact
it might have.
MOTION by .Comm Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to approve P. C. Resolution 91-28.
AVES :
NOES:
Comms . Rue, Di r·-·1onda_. Marks_. Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
STAFF ITEMS
!tl. City Council / Phmnl no Commission workshop
Di rector Schubach and the Cornrni ssi one rs discussed possi b 1 e dates and topics the
consensus ··,·vas:
The dates offered would all be on a Thursda!d and include: rylfl!d 16 , 1991 _: .June
~ 1 QQ 1 · -d I ·Xi 1 QQ 1 •J, ~~ , on, wUne -~, ~~ .
The topics offered would be: Rudat/Downtown Revitalization; Downtown
Business Parking _; Greenbelt Par~~i ng; and Pacific Coast Hi 1~hVvfl!d Parking .
hl. P1annlng Department Activity Report of Februory, 199 L
-../ No action taken
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.cl Memonmdum Regardlng P1annlng Commission Ual sons for
1991 City Council Meeting_
Aprll 23.
Director Schubach and the Comrmssioners discussed the proposed ballot measures to be
before the City Counci 1 and expressed general di sai:ireement with the 1 ack of public
hearings for complex rnatters such as these.
MOTION by Ctmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm . Peirce to approve a Resolution asking tr1e City
Councn to fo110\¥ the process that is in place in most communities throughout the
country to: hold public hearings at the Planning Commission level _: allO\•\' the Planning
Cornmiss1on to make recommendotions_: then go to the City Council for a final decision.
A'r'ES:
NOES:
Chmn. Ketz, Comrns. Peirce_. Di Monda, Rue
None
ABSTAIN: Cornrn. Marks
None ABSENT :
!tl
Chmn. Ketz wi 11 try to attend as 1 i ai son .
Inf ormationol MoteriaL
No action taken .
.tl Tentatlve Future Plannlng Commission Agenda.
!l
No action taken .
City CouncH Minutes of March 11. 12 and 26. 1991.
No action Taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda questioned the process for landscaping on pro _i ects that carne tief ore the
Cornrni ssi on _. and requested U,at more detail e·d information be given to include: rnore
e~<tensive landscape; at least one specimen tree larger than a 15 gallon can_: to avoid
contiguous han1scape bet\•1/een driveways folded up side of common \•I/alls betv•.ieen
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properties; and, to inform the deveioper that the package ··,•vouid be rejected if it 1Nere
not comp 1 ete.
Comm. Rue asked that renderings be included in the package as he felt a better quality
development would ensue if the time and care ·vvere taken to sut,mit renderings _: not as
likely to get a common set of plans .
Comm. Di Monda asked if some black and vvhite photos of the surrounding area could be
included.
Chmn. Ketz said the Commission could set the policy of \•vhat it \•vould like to see
included in the package.
Director Schubach explained that it would be difficult to require renderings_. but it could
be suggested that the Com mission would 1 i ke to see a rendering, tt·1e other items vv·oul d
not be a prob 1 em.
Comm. Di Monda ,Questioned the parking on the Greenbelt and asl<ed if there \1\1 ere any way
that the parldng of commercial vehicles or RVs could be banned, he also questioned the
enforcement of the existing parking.
Director Schubach responded that he would research the issue with General Services and
return with more information.
A general discussion of the pa ricing enforcement on Beach Drive ensued . Asst. Cit !~
Attorney Lee stated that a meeting 1Nas sct1eduled V·tith tt1e City ~1ana~Jer to vvork on
details of enforcement, and there was no problem with enforcing the illegal rental
parking.
MOTION b!-1 Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Rue-to adjourn 'at 1 i:05 PJ-l No
objection_: So ordered .
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certlf!d that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record or the action
taken by the Pl anni n!J Comrni ssi on of Hermosa Beacr1 at the regularly scheduled rneet i ng
of April 16, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairman
• ~ ~::J > f 9 ~ I
Date 27
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t1ichael ScJ1ubacr1_. Secretary
P.C. Minutes 4il6/91
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON APRIL 2, 1991, AT 7:00 P_M_ IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting ca1led to order at 7:01 P.M.. by Chmn. Ketz
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Rue .
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Di Monda, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Marks*
Also Present: Michael Schubach_. Planning Director_; Edward Lee, Assistant City
Attorney; Naoma Valdes, Recording Secretary
*Comm. Marks arrived at 7:05 P.M.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve the following consent
ca 1 endar items as submitted:
Planning Commission minutes of March 19, 1991;
Resolution P.C. 91-13. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITV OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERt'llT TO ALLOW OFF-
SALE GENERAL LIQUOR, IN CONJUNCTION WITH A DELI AND MINl-11ARKET, AN.D ADOPTION OF
AN ENVIRONr·-1ENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 3232 MANHATTAN AVENUE, "DAN'S
LIQUOR". LEGALLV DESCRIBED AS LOT TWO, AND LOT FOUR, SHAKESPEARE TRACT.
Resolution P.C. 91-20. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN
TO ALLOW A MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO WITH ONE-ON-ONE TRAINING, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AT 131 PIER AVENUE AND LEGALL V DESCRIBED
AS LOJ" 22, BLOCK 34, FIRST ADDITION TO HERMOSA BEACH TRACT .
AVES : Comms. Di Monda, Pierce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Marks
P.C. Minutes 4/02/91
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one eppeared to address the Commission
CON 91-2/PDP 91-2 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP 6 22305 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 91 B 15TH STREET
(CONTINUED FROM THE MEETING OF MARCH 19, 1991)
CON 91-2/PDP 91-2 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP 6 22034 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 930 15TH STREET
(CONTINUED FROM THE MEETING OF MARCH 19, 1991)
Chmn. Ketz noted that the two above projects wou1d be heard together.
Director Schubach gave the staff report, dated March 25, 1991, and recommended that
the Planning Commission again continue this request, to direct the applicant to consider
revisions in order to teke advantage of the fact that they have control of contiguous lots.
he noted that the Commission had continued this hearing at the request of the applicant
so that the design could be revised to take advantage of the applicable 30 foot height
limit.
Di rector Schubach continued that the revisions submitted essent i a 11 y maintain the
original design, the only change was that the upper (930 15th Street) project had been
raised to the 30 foot height limit, whiJe the lm•ver, front unit had been kept at 25 feet to
improve the views and give more of a staggered effect.
Director Schubach said that the use of the shared driveway was not as _critical, since
parking was not allowed on that side .of 15th Street .. but the shared driveway was still
considered to be more desirable, and, more efficient use of the land would allow more
open space, access, and parking.
Public Hearing opened at 7:08 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz
David Olin, 1233 Hermosa Avenue, Hermosa Beach, designer of the project, addressed the
Commission and passed a new rendering and view corridor study of the project to the
Commission to show changes that had been made. He stated that both he and the owner
of the project preferred two 2-una projects as opposed to a 4-unit construction as they
considered H more desirable from a rnar~(eting standpoint. He felt a comparison to units
cited on Prospect was not va 1 i ct as that was a 1 eve 1 1 ot and the crossf a 11 on this 1 ot was
too severe to allow a wider shared driveway to move well across Hie property.
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Mr. Olin continued that in order to maximize the view he had narrowed the front building
to create a new view corridor, that a line across at a 45 degree angle showed the clear
area, and, this created an open effect on both buildings and also with the house to the
east of the project. He said that the narrower front building created side yard setbacks
of eleven feet as opposed to the required five feet which a11owed more light to the
property to the east.
Comm. Di Monda questioned the designer on the use of identical plans for the t'vvo
separate projects and expressed his concern that more interest could be created on the
street if different designs, or at least a central court concept, were used .
Mr. 01 in responded that it was the deve 1 oper's desire to have a unified design, and that a
central court would span the garages and would be over concrete not over real dirt.
Comm. Peirce stated that one of the ideals, when the Condominium Ordinance was
written, was to have more lots assembled; by creating larger parcels with a greater
number of units more amenities could be included for the owners_: and, two side by side
2-unit projects did not take advantage of the amenities that a larger project could
provide.
Mr. Olin answered that it was the developer's desire to make smalJer projects as there
would be only one other owner in the complex to deal with, thus making it more desirable
to a potential buyer, but, in response to Comm. Peirce's request for factual data, stated
that he had none.
In response to Comm Rue·s request for more specific descriptions of the materials to be
used, Mr. Olin listed: tile for the roof decks; skylights in light shafts going a11 the way
down to the basement garages.: pipe railing on the balconies; solar tinted glass; stucco
elements with accent color wrapping over the top of the roof decks; af"!d, glass blocks
used on the stai n-ve 11, entry and other areas.
Donald McDougal, 940 15th Street, neighbor, addressed the Commission ancr stated that
the survey marker for the project centered on his water meter. He was concerned that
the footing for the wall would be on or beyond his property line and could cause damage
to his water pipes. He stated that the new project would completely block his view and
that the machinery used in c 1 earing the 1 ot had cracked the si dew a 1 k and damaged his
shrubbery. He asked for cooperation from the builders with the project.
Comm. Marks suggested that Mr. r-1cDouga 1 send a 1 et ter to the architect and the
contractor advising them of his concerns regarding the position of his water line.
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Responding to a question from Chmn . Ketz, Director Schubach suggested that Mr. McDougal
contact the Hermosa Beach Building Department regarding the damage to the sidewalk
and other areas, and stated that the footing
should be five feet from the property line.
Elizabeth Srour, 820 Manhattan Avenue, Manhattan Beach, addressed the Commission and
stated that single family homes are the most desirable residences, and if the homeowner
could not afford a single family residence the next choice would be a tvv·o unit
condominium as there would be only one other owner. She further stated that staff had
never told Mr. Olin of the Ctty·s desire to consolidate lots when he originally started his
plans, and that cross access easements in the legal documents of two Condominium
Associations could cause legal problems. She suggested that different colors be used on
the two projects.
The developer_. David Olin, stated that the five foot setback that was to be used applied
to only 30% of the property line, the additional 70% would be at eleven feet.
Public Hearing continued at 7:36 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm . Rue, to approve the staff
recommendation and continue the items to the meeting date of May 7, 1991.
Comm. Peirce spoke to the motion by saying that he felt that this was one last attempt
to have the developers modify their project to address the concerns raised b!J staff. He
then asked if the developers agreement ¥lould be needed to continue the items.
Asst. City Attorney Lee responded that it was within the Commission's discretion to
choose to continue as there was no legal requirement to decide the matter tonight since
the Commission was well within the time restra-ints .
Chmn. Ketz responded to Comm. Marks question of the 16 f oat front setback by explaining
that a 17 foot setback was only required for garages, the normal setback for front yards
was 5 foot, hov-tever the average for thl s street was 16 feet. •
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT:
Comms . Di Monda , Marks, Pierce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 90 -22 --CONDIT I ONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
6 2 2560 FOR A 2 -UNIT CONDOMIN I UM CONVERSION AT 544 AND 546 25TH
STREET (CONTINUED FROM T HE FEBRUARY 19 AND MARCH 19, 1991 ME ET I NGS)
4 P.C . Minutes 4/02/91
Director Schubach gave the staff report dated March 28, 1991 and recommended
continuance to the meeting of May 7, 1991, to resolve the issue of the appropriate
mechanism for ensuring the completion of the proposed remodel of the front unit.
At the meeting of March 19, 1991, the Planning Commission continued this request due to
the need to remodel the front unit to meet the requirements of the conversion ordinance.
The app1icant indicated that the staff proposed condition, that the remodeling be
completed prior to approval of the final map, was not acceptable because financing could
not be obtained until the final map is approved because of the way the ownership is
recorded.
The Commission continued the item for staff and the applicant to research other options,
such as bonding the improvements to ensure their completion _, or perhaps returning to a
partnership form of ownership so that financinQ could be obtained .
The Commission also directed the applicant to provide more detailed plans depicting the
architectural features of the project.
Director Schubach indicated that the City was still researching acceptable methods of
ensuring completion and asked Asst. City Attorney Lee to give more details of the
methods under consideration .
Asst. City Attorney Lee explained that it is difficult to require a performance bond for
on-site improvements lf the City is not the beneficiary.
Tv·rn possible alternatives, he continued, were: first, evidence of a completion bond to a
lender which would require, in the event of foreclosure, the City would receive notice
and have the assurance that either the lender or any successor in interest or assign of
the developer would be obligated to fulfill the conditions in order to retain the
effectiveness of the final map; or, second, a covenant to be recorded against the
property, executed by the developer, that would run yVfth the land to provide that the
improvements were to be performed in order to receive the final building permit. He also
stated that it was unusual for a lender to require a final map.
Comm. Rue asked if the City could withdraw a final map. Mr. Lee assured· him that the
City has this right, as it has the opportunity of inserting a "condition subsequent" that
would have to be complied with, tt·1at as security for the City, the condition of the final
map ·would not be subordinate to the 1 ender's 1 oan .
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Comm. Rue inquired as to the iength of time that the project could continue without a
final building permit since it is a remodel and occupancy can be maintained during the
construction.
Director Schubach responded that the time is indefinite, and this is one of the problems
the City faces.
Comm. Marks asked about a Certificate of Occupancy as a condition of the completion of
the project.
Comm. Rue responded that a Certificate of Occupancy could only be issued for new
construction and this was a remodel.
Public Hearing was opened at 7:49 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz
Ron Hobbs, 544 25th Street, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and
stated that he and his wife were partners in the project wah Richard Melograno, a friend
of over thirty years. He stated that three years ago he had entered into a contract as
joint tenants in common on the property, but only Mr. Melograno·s name appeared on the
title.
At the present time, he can not borrow money to finance the project, since his name is
not on the title. The suggestion that a new partnership be formed is unacceptable to him
due to the expense of securing a new loan witt·, his name on title, then refinancing again
as soon as the conversion is approved.
Mr. Hobbs further stated that he and Mr. Me 1 ograno were wi 11 i ng to pro vi de any documents
the City needed to assure that he was in fact an owner. He would also be willing to pull
his approved plans from The Building Department to show that he was willing to start
the remodel. And, he was prepared to bond and name the City as beneflcia.ry, having been
assured by bonding companies that a was a common practice, and could probably be done
within two weeks
Comm. Rue noted that in the photos of the project the roof pitch was dissimilar.
Mr. Hobbs stated that the new roof would be si mi 1 ar to the roof on the back unit when the
remode1 was completed.
Public Hearing continued at 7:54 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz
MOTION by Comm. Rue, second by Comm. Di Monda to continue this item to the meeting of
April 16, 1991, in order to a11ovv U1e City and the applicant to reach an acceptable
agreement.
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AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
comms. D1 Monda, Marks, Pierce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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CON 91-3/PDP 91-3 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP '22892 FOR A 2-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1639 PROSPECT AVENUE_
Director Schubach presented the staff report dated March 25, 1991, and recommended
that the Phmning Commission approve the conditional use permit, precise development
plan, and Vesting Tentative Map *228892 subject to the conditions as contained in the
attached Resolution of Approva1.
The subject property is located at the southwest corner of 17th Street and Prospect
Avenue. It is an irregular shaped lot with a slight grade from east to west and currently
contains a single family house.
The proposed project consists of two detached dwelling units containing 2352 and 2352
square feet respectively. Each unit is two stories above a semi-subterranean garage and
contains 3 bedrooms, 3 1 /2 bathrooms, and a roof deck. The lot coverage is 55%, well
below the maximum of 65%, height is at the 30 foot limit, adequate setbacks are
provided, and the project complies with all other planning and zoning requirements. The
Public Works Department was consulted regarding the proposed curb cuts and is satisfied
·v·v•i th the design.
The only concern of staff is that the project \'\1 ould require the removal of two mature
trees of respective 33" and 12" trunk diameter. Staff recommends that comparable
mature trees (36" box) be provided elsewhere on the site, and to show this on the
landscape p 1 an.
Public Hearing opened at 8:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
Elizabeth Srour, 820 Manhattan Avenue, Manhattan Beach,representing the applicant,
addressed the Commission and stated that the developer, Jerry Olguin, was proposing
two detached homes on the lot in order to maximize the openness at the corner. The
project met all City requirements and that he agreed to provide the two mature trees as
requested.
Public Hearing closed at 8:04 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
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MOTION by Comm. Pierce, seconded by Comm. Rue to approve the staff recommendation,
and Reso1ution P.C . 91-23 with the condition that two mature, specimen trees in 36u box
be p1anted on the site.
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Pierce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Counci1 \'\1ithin ten days.
CUP 91-5 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR AN OUTDOOR SPECIAL
EVENT ON APRIL 14, 1991, FROM 3:00 P.M. TO 7:00 P.M. AND CONTINUING ONCE
A VEAR THEREAFTER IN THE COURTYARD AT 934 HERMOSA AVENUE, CALIFORNIA
BEACH REST AURA NT.
Director Schubach presented the staff report dated March 25, 1991, and recommended
approval of the requested Conditional Use Permit amendment subject to the conditions
contained in the proposed resolution.
A C.U.P. was granted for a restaurant .,..vith beer and wine in 1978, amended to add square
footage in 1984, and amended again in 1985 to add conditions in response to neighbor's
concerns about noise and poorly maintained trash receptacles. The outdoor courtyard has
never been authorized for seating or service of beer and wine. The restaurant, and other
businesses sharing the shopping center, is nonconforming to current parking
requirements.
The requested C.U.P. would authorize a one-day event, on an annual basis, with the first
event scheduled for Sunday, April 14, 1991, from 3:00 P.M. to 7:00 P.f1. The applicant
indicates that this is a party to celebrate their 1 O year anniversary. Proceeds from the
party will be donated to a charitable cause in the City of Hermosa Beach. This year the
restaurant hoped to raise $10,000 to donate to the Police Department for the purchase of
body armor for the Police officers.
Although off-street parking is not available to support the number of people expected,
staff believes that given the time of day and year, (and the fact that the other
businesses in the center, with two exceptions_. will not be open) that the surrounding
public parking areas would not be severe1y impacted by this one-time event.
In regard to continuing this event on an annual basis, staff is including a condition that
the event be held during the same time of day and year (before 7:00 P.M. on a Sunday
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afternoon in April) , and tt1at prior to scheduling, that the Po 11 ce and Fi re Departments be
notified at least two weeks in advance and that the Planning Department be notified in
writing of the event and what charitable cause would be the beneficiary.
Comm . Rue queshoned if anyone had been to the restaurant to check on compliance and
ensure that there were no problems , and was assured that staff had reviewed the area
and would have noted any non-compliance or problems in the report.
Comm. Peirce commented on item #2 regarding maximum occupancy and noted that the
main seating inside the restaurant was listed at 76 and the patio at 32 and questioned if
this would a11ow enough extra seating. Director Schubach explained that the patio was
not the area they were requesting, but the courtyard area outside the front door.
Public Hearing opened at 8: 1 O by Chmn. Ketz .
Scott Rosenberg, 1734 Pacific Coast Hwy., Hermosa Beach, Marketing Director for
Miyama Corp., D.B.A. California Beach Restaurant, addressed the Commission and stated
that the staff report had overlooked another level of seating. He explained that the main
seating area seats 76, the patio/bar area 32, both on the upper level, and that there was
an additional e1rea on the lower level that seats approximately 30 people.
Director Schubach agreed the1t the lower area had been overlooked and would be included
in the final resolution so the1t it would be posted for maximum occupancy.
Public Hearing closed at B: 12 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm Rue, to approve the staff recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-24, with the the fallowing additions: 1) the lower seating area was to
be noted and posted_. and 2) the approval was for this year only on a trial basis. If the
City considered it a nuisance it wi 11 be reconsidered; if there was .. no evidence of
compJaints or conditions that caused a public disruption, the event could be continued.
Asst. City Attorney Lee asked that disruption be clarified. Comm. Peirce responded that
he considered complaints of residents of excessive noise, too many people, or difficulty
in dispersing the crowd to be disruption.
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Pierce_. Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Com mission may be appealed by
writing to the City Council within ten days.
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CON 89-6 --CONDiTIONAL USE PERMIT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP •2oa22
FOR A 3-UNIT CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION AT 23 BARNEY COURT, 18 AND 20
MEYER COURT (CONTINUED FROM MARCH 19, 1991 MEETING).
Di rector Schubach presented the staff report dated March 13, 1991, and recommended
denial of the proposed conversion by adoption of proposed resolution because the existing
three dwelling units are not consistent with the density lfmitations of the General Plan
designation for the subject site and do not comply with current zoning requirements in
regards to density, height, open space and front setbacks.
The project 1 ot size is 5281 square feel and contains two attached uni ts of 1794 and
1896 square feet respectively, both with access from Meyer Court, and a separate
detached unit of 2233 square feet with access from Barney Court. Six enclosed parking
spaces are provided in three two car garages (one is a tandem garage), and four guest
parking spaces are located in the setback behind the garages.
The three units were constructed as one development in 1987. This was prior to the
City's efforts to bring the area into consistency with the General Plan and zoning. At the
time of issuance of building permits the zoning was R-2 and the General Plan was Low
Density Resident i a J.
Subsequently_. after public hearings to resolve the zoning and General Plan
inconsistencies before both the Planning Commission and the City Council, the area
bounded by Barney Court and Meyer Court (known as Area 10) was ultimately rezoned and
the General Plan amended to Specific Plan Area No. 2. As a result the S.P.A. now serves
as both the zoning and General Plan designations and the allowed density under the S.P.A .
allows a maximum of two units on the subject property.
The zoning code require that condominium conversions conform to the current city codes,
for which the S.P.A. has a density limit of two detached units per lot, a 25 foot height
limit, and open space and setbacks consistent with R-1 zoning. This project of three
units, two of which are attached, are constructed to the then app1icable R-2 standards in
terms of height, open space, and setbacks. As such, the project is non-conforming in all
essential elements of the zoning requirements, which is adequate grounds for denial.
However, with a finding that the subject buildings are already in existence and, in terms
of the effect on the community, that the conversion of these units to owner occupied
housing would be a benefit, it is possible that the Planning Commission may find grounds
for approval, as owner occupancy is one of the state1j goals of the Housing Element of the
General Plan.
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In sum, tr,e existing structure proposed to be converted is severely deficient in meeting
current reQuirements of the zoning ordinance and is inconsistent with the General Plan.
Staff be 1i eves that the severity of the i nconsi stenci es \•varrant deni a 1, even though staff
genera 11 y supports the concept that conversions to home ownership can benefit a
neighborhood in that owner occupants are usually more concerned about long term care,
maintenance and stability of the property.
Public Hearing opened at 8:22 P.t-1. by Chmn. Ketz.
Dennis Cleland, 434 28th Street, Hermosa Beach, app11cant, addressed the Commission
and explained that this was an existing 3-unit apartment complex that was built to
condominium standards and it was his belief that it would be a benefit to the City and
the community if it \-Vere allowed to be converted to town house ownership. He also
mentioned that part of the code a11ows a contribution from the owner for the possible
approval of a conversion; that he had spoken to members of staff and had offered to
contribute equipment or cash to the Senior Citizens if this wou1 d be a consideration.
Comm. Di Monda questioned why he had not applied for condominiums from the start. Mr.
Cleland replied that at the time the project was started, thirteen years ago, the City was
starting to rezone and there was consideration of a moratorium on new construction, so
it was f e1t that it would be better to apply for apartments, build them, and then apply
for conversion, since it was felt that the area would be zoned R-2, medium density. And,
that the Planning Commission had recommended medium density for the area but had
been turned down by the City Counci 1.
Mr. Cleland agreed with Comm. Marks that in essence he had taken a gamble and had lost
on the ultimate zoning, but at the time, in R-2 zones, if the lot ¥tas large enough, three
units could be built. He further stated that the project was designed to blend in with the
neighborhood; the detached unit was nearest the single family homes and was only 25
feel in height and the two attached units were next to the R-3 apartment~.
Mike Meyers, 1104 First Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and disputed
some of the statements made by Mr. Cleland, he stated that at the time the owner was
turned down for condominiums, but the City had to allow apartments. He then asked for
clarification from Director Schubach v·tho said that tMs 'Nas basically correct. There
was case law that the City had to allow apartments as long as they conformed to
existing zoning and were ministerial (required only a building permit to go ahead), but
condominiums were discretionary and required a C.U.P. so therefore could be denied.
Mr. Me!Jers continued that he felt the con11ersion should be denied; the project did not
meet any of the existing standards and you don't reward someone who would have only
been allowed to build two units if he had originally gone for condominiums, but had built
as much as he could as apartments and now asks for a conversion.
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' In response to Comm. Rue·s question of whether home ownership promoted a better
neighborhood, Mr. Meyers replied that he would rather have apartments so that a
precedent would not be set.
Jerry Burdick, 1106 First Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and
expressed his concern that it appeared that Mr. Cleland was offering a bribe in order to
have his conversion approved. He stated that he was against conversion approval and fell
it would be a giant step backward for the community.
Jim Moss, 472 36th Place, Manhattan Beach, investor, addressed the Commission and
stated that he had invested in the project in order to own a condominium and become a
resident of Hermosa Beach . He fell conversion would enhance the neighborhood by
allowing home ownership rather than renters.
Steve Harris, 23 Barney Court, Hermosa Beach, investor, addressed the Commission and
said although he was not involved in the initial phase of the project, it was hls
understanding the original request was for condominiums, but that had been rejected. He
said that at the time of building the project the neighbors had stopped by and had
complimented them on how attractive the new buildings were, and expressed pleasure
that the old bullding was being replaced. He further stated that at the time of building,
the project was not out of conformHy with the zoning, he and hls partners had agreed to
the ne•yv' zoning that now made the project non-conforming.
Comm. Di Monda asked who the architect was. Mr. Cleland replied that Patcowen was the
original architect of record, but had moved out of town and Jerry Compton was local and
had taken over for him .
Ruth Brand, 1231 First Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and dee la red
her opposition to the conversion on Qrounds that it contravened the intent and purpose of
City Council Ordinance No. 90-1044_i-City Council Resolution No. 90-5398·; and with three
owners it could, at some time, open tt1e City for possible litigation. She further stated
that the structure ·v·v·as over the 30 foot height limit; that Barney was a one-vvay street;
and regarding the in-lieu fees, the monies could be better used to make the structure
more compatible with the neighborhood, zoning, and S.P.A.
Wilma Burt, 1152 Seventh Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and
stressed her opposition to condominiums in a residential area, she stated that in
apartments a disruptive tenant could be forced to move but a disruptive 01;vner ,.-...·as there
forever. She continued the she was incensed that a staff member or a City Attorney
would suggest that a contribution could be made in exchange for a conversion .
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Comm. Rue asked if Mrs. Elurt knew of in-lieu fees for parking and Senior Citizen
housing? She replied that she did but did not approve of them.
Asst. City Attorney Lee explained that the in-lieu fees were specifically provided within
the Hermosa Beach Municipal Code and not a suggestion on any City official's part that
would characterize this es a bribe. That it is e section within the City code that allows
for conditional approval and considers in-lieu as an off setting factor to approving a
project where the Commission, in its discretion, would find otherwise unique advantages
and benefits to the community and provides that such offsetting factors would include,
but not be 1i mited to, the addition to the City or the donation to the City, or other pub 1 i c
agency or non-profit, of funds for permanent use of Senior Citizen, handicapped, or low
and moderate income persons; something that would go into a fund or account of the City
to provide housing for people in a category that require it. The in-lieu is allowed as an
offsetting factor.
Robert Benz, 2901 Manhattan avenue, Hermosa Beach_. addressed the Commission to ask if
there was a schedule for the in-lieu fees .
Asst. City Attorney Lee responded that there was no schedule, the City code said that the
number of said donated units or the amount of in-lieu ·v-rnuld be established by Resolution
of City Council consistent with the policies of the Hermosa Beach General Plan.
Director Schubach explained that the State had laws requiring all cities to provide a
certain amount of low and moderate income housing and in-lieu is one of the means by
which the state allows this to be done. If a condominium conversion displaces lm·v and
moderate income uses, the City can require, as a condition of the conversion, that some
units be set aside for low and moderate sale and rental. This was done when the
Commodore was converted, the in-lieu was required at that time as a means to off set
the soci a 1 i rnpact of the conversion.
-Asst. City Attorney Lee stated that i n-1 i eu was a prov1 s1 on of the code that the
Commission may look at as a relevant factor, to be regarded or not, at the discretion of
the Commission and in this case it has been offered by the developer as · a potential
offsetting factor. However, the payment of in-lieu, in no way, entitles the developer to a
higher density than that allowed by law.
Mr. Cleland finalized by saying that he was the one who had read of the in-Jieu fees and
sugge_sted their app Ji cation to staff, in order to off er somethl ng to the City beside town
homes. The reality is that there are three apartments on the site at this time,
conversion will not increase density or parking, and the City will have the benefit of a
higher tax base and the new ovvners will have the benefit of home ovmershlp rather than
renting,
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Public Hearing closed at 9:09 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Pierce questioned tandem parking in an R-2 zone and asked if Barney and Meyer
Courts wou1d be considered a11eys or streets. Director Schubach responded they were
streets but he believed the parking was adequate.
Comm. Rue fe1t the project had been built to condominium specifications, the project
was on the ·1ow end of R-2 zoning at 16 dwe1lings per acre whereas R-1 a1lowed 13
dwellings per acre, that it fell in the buffer area of commercial at the bottom on Pacific
coast Highway and R-1 at the top of the hi 11, and f i na 11 y it was a unique project that
would not set a precedent.
PROPOSED MOTION by Comm. Rue for approval of the C.U.P . and Tentative Parcel Map
#20822 for a 3-unit condominium conversion died for lack of a second.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, second by Comm. Di Monda to deny a Conditional Use Permit
and Tentative Parcel Map #20822 for a 3-unit condominium conversion and approve
Resolution P.C. 91-21.
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Pierce, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Rue
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Council within ten days.
The meeting recessed at 9:20 P.M.
The meeting reconvened at 9:29 P.M.
CUP 91-1 --CON_OITIONAL USE PERMIT TO SELL ADULT VIDEOS AND FOR OFF-
SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING MARKET ALREADY
LICENSED BY A.H_c __ AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENT AL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 3127 MANHATTAN AVENUE, BOCCATffS GROCERIES
(CONTINUED FROM MARCH 5, 1991 MEETING)_
Director Schubach presented the staff report dated February 26, 1991, and recommended
that the Planning Commission approve the Conditional Use Permit subject to the
conditions contained in the proposed Resolution.
At the meeting of March 5, 1991 .. the applicant requested continuance of this item to
have more time for his attorney to study the issue. He also as~(ed that the portion of tt1e
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request pertaining to the sale of adult videos De dropped as he does not.. intend to sell
them.
The Planning Commission granted the request for continuance and directed staff and the
applicant to take a closer look at at the proposed trash enclosure requirement to
determine if it would cause the loss of a parking space.
The parking stalls are all 7' 6'' by 1 s· and the trash dumpster extends about four feet
from the wall, leaving only 2-3"' between the dumpster and the closest stall. Therefor, it
appears that a concrete block wall would not be practical as it would cause the loss of a
parking space; the only possible type of fence would be a narrow fence such as a chain
link with wooden slats, with the gate opening facing the sidev·n~lk. Staff continues to
recommend that the dumpster be enclosed as required by the Municipal Code.
All references to adult videos have been removed in the proposed Resolution as the
applicant has indicated he does not plan to sell such items.
Further, due to concerns of the applicant, staff has altered the wording of many of the
recommended conditions and removed some unnecessary conditions.
Public Hearing was opened at 9:34 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Phll Freeland, 315 South Beverly Drive, Beverly Hills_. representing the applicant,
addressed the commission and presented a petition containing 82 signatures, all in favor
of Boccato·s Market, and that they were filing for this C.U.P. under protest.. ..... .
Robert Benz, 2901 Manhattan Avenue, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and,
speaking as a resident of North Hermosa, expressed his appreciation for the services that
were offered by Boccato·s Market: convenience; neighborhood store; cleanliness; 22 years
of service; and a delivery service to shut-ins. He continued that Mr. Boccato should not
ha Ye to apply for a C.U.P. after 22 years as a conscientious businessman since there were
no complaints about his store.
Wilma Burt, 1152 Seventh Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to spealc in
favor of Boccato·s Market and Mr. Boccato, and to speak against the requirement forcing
him to apply for a C.U.P. She also questioned why the reference to adult videos V'tas on
the agenda, and felt that it gave the wrong impression. Chmn. Ketz explaine,j that adult
videos had been removed from the Reso 1 ut ion_. but it had been used in the 1 ega 1 noticing,
and the agenda uses the wording from the legal noticing.
Dennis Cleland, 434 -28th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to speak
in favor of Boccato·s Market and asked that nothing be done by the Commission that
would force Mr. Boccato out of business.
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Mr. Freeiand made his summary and comments on the sixteen ( 16) conditions in the
proposed Resolution:
# 1) was now de 1 eted;
#2) the hours of operation from 6 to 2 \'\1 ere acceptable as those were the
hours on the existing A.B.C . license;
#3) the conditions on the trash enclosure were unacceptable as (a) it
physi ca 11 y would not work as there is on 1 y 5" bet ween the dumpster and the parking
stall, barely enough room to open a car door, any infringement on that space would
eliminate the parking stall, and, (b) it would be ugly and provide no improvement to the
existing situation; and, should it become necessary, they intend to apply for a variance in
order to maintain the existing parking;
#4) would be acceptable as long as the issue is resolved regarding the
parking space;
#5) is a problem in acceptance since there has never been a problem with
customers at tt1is grocery store_. this type of condition applies to a bar where the
customers are drinking on the premises;
#6) is not acceptable because the signage is not required by the A.B.C. or the
existing A.B.C. 1icense; it would be cumbersome, impact on limited display space, and
obtrusive in the conduct of business;
#7) is unreasonab 1 e considering the continued number, content, comp 1 exi ty,
and scope of the impact of the condition being recommended; and, it infringes on Mr.
Bocatto·s personnel practices and has no impact on the proper operation of the business;
#8) is unacceptable, as tt1e phrase, " ... any changes to the interior for the
purpose of alter-ing the primary use of the market...", is ambiguous; it does not define
what t1r. Boccato can or cannot do in regard to interior remodeling vdthout City approval;
does it mean that the building can not be used for anything other than a mari~et without
prior approval through the C.U.P. process?; there are a number of legal use for the
building other than a market allowed in the C-1 zone that do not require a C.U .P. or City
approva 1. We ask that it be removed because of ambiguity;
#9) is overly broad and arbitrary and gives the City unfettered discretion
and unconstitutional authority to cite or revoke the C.U.P.; violations of the zoning or
Muni ci pa 1 code have definite pen a 1t i es attached if the person or business is proven
guilty; revocation of the C.U.P. must be based on reasonable grounds, not just any
violation; the condition is totally arbitrary and by agreeing to it (which is what is
required by this C.U.P.), Mr. Boccato is giving up basic Constitutionfll rights;
# 10) is redundant and the ref or unnecessary;
# 11) there is no problem complying with this condition as Boccato's Market
has always prided itself on cleanliness;
# 12) is pre-empted by State law; is not a requirement of the A.B.C. license;
is discriminatory; how a business packages any item should be a choice of the business;
has not been a problem therefor there is no justification for its requirement;
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-# 13) ts unacceptatlle, unless there ts agreement tly Mr. Bocatto tt1at tt1e
conditions are acceptatlle prior to the action to approve the C.U .P., if the conditions are
not accepted the C.U.P. cannot be approved;
# 14) object to recording an approved C.U .P., should that occur with
conditions agreed to by the applicant as that clouds the title to the land and creates a
cumbersome problem should the law change or be modified in the future; it puts
unnecessary and unreasonab 1 e burdens on the property owner;
#' 15) it is arbitrary and unreasonable that the Planning Com mission may
amend the P .U.C. or add nevv" condi t 1 ons to it; would not agree to such actions wi tt10ut a
public hearing and without agreement to such conditions or amendments; agreement with
this condition implies acceptance without any input, and as such is unacceptable; and,
# 16) as this may be challenged in court, they would not egree to
severnbi 1 i ty.
Mr. Freeland continued that they v1ere not applying for the C.U.P., but were being forced to
apply and strongly opposed the Commission's approval.
In response to Comm . Rue·s question of the possibility of smaller trash containers, Mr.
Freeland replied that there were hvo bins there at the present time and were used to
capacity, a 1 so, that there was no way to open the binds from the ends, they open from the
top .
.: In response to Comm . Marks question regarding space from parking stall, Mr. Freeland
replied U1at there was 5 inch clearance from the parking stall and the bin was
approximately 5 feet wide.
Comm. Peirce asked Mr. Freeland if Mr. Boccato intended to fight the condition requiring
the trash dumpster to be enclosed.
Mr. Freeland responded that he would not say that; he could only say that ft is impossible
to enc 1 ose the dumpster due to space restrictions, but Mr. Boccato \-voul d work with the
City staff to try to find a solution as long as it did not require losing a parking space .
Public Hearing closed at 9:58 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
Comm. Rue rep 1 i ed to the concerns expressed by Mr. Free 1 and regarding the conditions to
be imposed, he felt that #3, trash enclosure, \'\1 as a question of parking versus enclosure
and tl)at a compromise could be reached. He did not want Mr. Bocatto to lose a par-king
space, but he felt that a was the City's right to improve appearances from the street.
Regarding #5, he said that there was a proliferation of alcol1ol related businesses in
town and that to be even-handed the City reQuired C.U.P.s, w hich run vvith the land and
reQuire a new ovvner to abide with the conditions and provide continuity.
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The signs relating to alcohol are needed to try to keep alcohol use off of the beach and
the streets, Comm. Rue continued. If the use of the bullding is changed then the C.U.P. is
brought up and must be changed, and that vv"as the rational for the condHions on change of
floor plans. The City sign laws must be complied with, he stated, and clear packaging on
single containers was a means to address the problem of the pro Hf emf.ion of alcohol use
and a larger concern than the store's right to package as it chose. And, finally, regarding
recording the C.U.P., it runs with the land and as such is applicable, that all amendments
and revocation procedures were public hearings, were legally noticed, and needed
substantial findings.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce to approve C.U.P. 91-1, with the
following chtmges: condition No. 1 is deleted; and condition No. 5 should be agreed to by
staff and the applicant with the understanding that it is the Commission's intent to
remove the vi si bi 1 i ty of the trash container from the street.
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Pierce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-37/PA RK 90-9/PDP 90-10 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PARKING
PLAN AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AUTO HODY SHOP AND ADOPTION OF
AN ENVIRONMENT AL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1081-85-87 AVIATION
BOULEVARD, EUROPEAN BODY SHOP (CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY 19, 1991
MEETING)_
Director Schubach presented tt1e staff report dated March 28, 1991, anq recommended
that the Planning Commission approve the proposed C.U.P., P.D.P., and Parking Plan,
subject to conditions, including limiting the number of service bays to four (4) by
adopting the proposed Resolution. •
Since the last public hearing, the applicant has met with staff to discuss what
information was needed. Staff advised the applicant to obtain detailed specifications on
the spray booth ventilation and filtration system to be used; the overall building
ventilation and filtration system; and, to contact the Air Quality l'"lanagement District
(AQMD) to ensure compliance with all current standards.
Letters have been received from a spray booth company and the applicant's engineer
which provide specifications and details to show a spray booth and building ventilation
system will be installed and state that these meet or exceed the requirements of the
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AQMD. Further tt is noted that the ]imitations, contained in ruJe 1151, limit the types of
paints to those Jow nonvolatiJe organic compounds (V0C) which is stated to have no odor
impact.
Staff has contacted the AQMD engineer who worked with the appJicant's engineer and
verified that the proposed specifications appear to be more than adequate to meet their
requirements. Final verification can be provided to the City when the AQMD issues a
permit. Staff is recommending a condition that such verification be provided prior to
issuance of a certificate of occupancy. Further, staff is incorporating all the
recommendations contained in the letter as conditions of approval.
While the information provided shows a sincere effort on the part of the applicant to
meet or exceed all the standards of the AQt1D in terms of ventilation and the spray booth,
the Commission may not be fully satisfied that these standards are necessarily
appropriate in this case given the proximity of residential areas since AQMD standards
are the same whether or not the surrounding land uses include residences. The complete
enclosure within a bu11ding, however, is not always a requirement.
Responding to questions from Chmn. Ketz concerning the number of parking spaces,
Director Schubach said that all of the service bays inside would be counted as parking
spaces; that this business was not like the normal retail business where a customer
drove in, parked, made a purchase, and drove off; in a body shop the car was normally
handled by an employee and could, therefor, be parked inside while w•aiting for repair.
Public Hearing opened at 10:17 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz
Jim Marquez, 1860 So. Elena, Redondo Beach, representing the applicant, addressed the
Commission and said that at the 1 ast meeting they had been requested to return with
specific statistical data regarding the adequacy of the ventilation and filtration of the
spray booths and of the shop interior. In the interim, the!-1 had engaged a registered
~ ,
mechanical engineer, who speciaJized in ventilating and emission control, and_, had met
with representatives of the AQt1D, who stated that the spray booths to be provided for
the body shop met or exceeded their mini mum requirements.
Paul Phillips, 702 Strand, Hermosa Beach, also representing the applicant, addressed the
Commission and stated that originaJly they had proposed a sm1:1ller building, but fitter
meeting with staff, had enlarged the concept to ensure that all work was done inside.
There would be two employees and the owner working in the shop.
Abi Nabipur, of Cal Engineering, 1109 Towne Avenue, Los Angeles, representing U-1e
applicant, addressed the commission and stated that the painting v1as to be confined
within an approved spray paint booth, ·1,1~1ich is a self-contained e~<haust system capable
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of removing all airborne paint through its filters. He explained that the odor was caused
by the paint and when the minute paint particles were caught, the odor was removed.
In addition, Mr. Nabipur continued, a ventilation system would be installed in the shop
with additional filtration to catch exhaust fumes and any solvent. fumes. There would
also be warning sensors to determine when the filters needed to be changed, and only
environmentally harmless, AQMD approved paint would be used.
Responding to questions from Comm. Peirce concerning odors, Mr. Nabipur said that the
spray booth and the additional carbon filters would remove all odors. If there was a
question as to the effectiveness of the filtration, he stated that the exhaust system
could be tested at the discharge point of the building.
Mr. Marquez added that the AQMD had an enforcement arm and a 24 hour hotline that
encouraged residents to call with complaints.
Comm. Rue questioned the solvents used to dry paint as to odor and volatility, as 'tlell as
the possibility of an auto owner bringing in a special paint that was not approved by the
AQMD.
Mr. Nabipur responded that all products used, including primers and solvents had to be
approved by the AQMD, and that the new paints could match anything that had been used
before.
Director Schubach stated the reason a general filtration system was required for the
general shop was that small jobs might not be done in paint booths.
Responding to Comm. Rue·s question of why there is odor from existing shops_. Mr. Nabipur
replied there probably was no regulation when they started and therefor they did not
have the advanced filtration systems used today, which have 95% effective filters and
are used in hospitals to screen viruses.
Edie ~vebber, 1201 El even th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Comrni ssi on and
requested that the City regulate the number of auto body shops allowed_. and questioned:
1) 'Nhat are the numbers for existing erni ssi ons?
2) how many body shops meet the criteria set by the AQMD for paints and
emissions?
3) how many use high volume/low pressure appHcation systems?
4) how many use closed containers for clothe and paper disposal?
5) how are these Hems disposed?
Showing a photograph of the intersection of Aviation Blvd. and Prospect Ave., Mrs.
Viebber stated that this intersection \Alas the fourth most dangerous in Hermosa Beach.
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With a volume of 38,800 cars per 24 hour period, there had been eight accldents in the
eleven month period from January 1, 1990 to November 30, 1990. The proposed auto body
shop would be the fourth in this four block area ( there are three existing shops), and it
would be located only 150 feet from this intersection_. Mrs. Y./ebber continued, and asked
that the request be denied.
Jim Rizzino .. Sixth Street .. Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to request denial,
and questioned what monitoring was used to ensure compliance as fumes and odor were
evident now.
Dr. Bernard Winnaker, 1232 Corona Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and
di sp 1 ayed a photo showing that the proposed body shop would be 100 feet from his home
and stated:
1) the quality of his life would be jeopardized by up-wind effluents that could leak
from the shop;
2) the 5% of the particles that were not trapped by the filters would cause
degradation to the air he had to breathe; and,
3) concerned for health hazards since there was no assurance there would be no
contaminants, and urged denial of the project.
David Ling, 1130 and 1130 1 /2 Seventeenth Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the
Commission and stated that he could sme1l paint from Pacific Coast Hwy. He added that
another body shop would not support the long term objective stated by the Planning
Commission to encourage home ownership in Hermosa Beach, since the pro1if eration of
body shops would not bring nev-t residents to the City.
In response to Mr. Ling·s question concerning changes to this proposal from European Body
Shop as opposed to their previously denied project, Director Schubach responded that
there need not be a change; if a certain amount -of time had elapsed, they could reapply;
but, this was different in size, equipment, and the scope of operations.
Mr. Ling continued, that the City needed to control the proliferation of body shops due to
the negative public hea 1th and safety image they created. Wi tt1out compliance from
existing shops, it was hard to determine what the impact of another shop would be,
tt,eref or he urged a moratorium until compliance is met.
Director Schubach responded that there was an Ordinance in effect that vvou1d require a
C.U.P .. for the existing shops within two years. That the AQMD did not require the
stringent measures that were required by the City for new shops, suct·1 as indoor
containment of a1l paint and priming. Currently the AQMD allowed one gal1on of paint to
be sprayed outside of the paint booth and that was were most of the priming was done.
The Fire Department does check to determine that the paint used by the shops is
acceptable to the AQMD.
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Maurice Bouday, 1203 Eieventh Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to
display photos of the area, question the information obtained and speak of the problems
with existing body shops in the area.
Tanya Bouday, 1203 El even th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and
questioned:
1) if the properties in the chemical emissions caused cancer?
2) what happened if the sensor ma 1 functioned?
3) how the disposable filters would be disposed?
4) urged denial of the proposal.
Comm. Peirce stated theat the Commission could do nothing about the conditions of the
existing body shops and suggested that the residents take their complaints to the City
Council.
Ray Martin, Corona Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and expressed
concern in regard to:
1) original plan had parking at nineteen spaces, now it appeared to be only
fourteen;
2) the ten foot setback to the residences in the rear did not appear to be adequate;
3) the term "state of the art" was vague;
4) the staff report said the size of the building Vy'as too large for the lot size _:
5) the AQt1D required identification of schools within 1,000 feet of the proposal,
the bilingual school on Prospect ·vvas 1/4 mile away;
6) the chemicals in paint may affect the health of the children that live in Urn area
on Eleventh Street;
7) the amount of paint that the AQMD allowed to be sprayed outdoors equaled 52
cars painted outside per day from the 13 body shops in Hermosa Beach;
8) other Cities only allow this type of business in light industrial z_ones; and,
9) European Body Shop has been "red tagged" for painting at their current location
for a year.
Eric Ling, Seventeenth Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to say that he
has worked in auto paf nt shops and knows that the paf nt contaminates can not be
contained totally, the primer is usually applied outdoors, and he opposes the application.
Martin Moreno, 1326 Corona Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to agree
with the other residents in opposition to the proposal, because he feels the City is
saturated with auto shops and there should be limits. The property is too small, the
street too dangerous, and the site too close to the residential zone. Mr. Moreno added
that he favored a moratorium and felt this business should be a in light industrial zone.
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Dr. Bernt ce u ndow, 1232 Corona Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Com mt sst on to
say that the Commission should be concerned with the health, safety, and beauty of
Hermosa Beach and this project improved none of these areas .
Al Hodges, 1020 Prospect Avenue, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to express
the concern that the area was too crowded for another body shop.
Paul Phillips spoke in rebuttal by saying that this was not a new shop but the relocation
of an existing shop; they had enlarged the building to comply with the staff request to
contain all of their work indoors; they were the only ones who were offering a solution
to the problem; they had been directed by the City Council to reapply; and they were being
judged by the standards of the poorest examples of the body shops.
Abi Nabipur repHed that the only 100% filter was a cement block wall; the 95% filter
that they were proposing was used in hospitals; cancer studies had not shown a link with
paint fumes; and asked to let this project be a model for the other non-compliance shops.
Jim Marquez stated that this was not a high volume business, perhaps one or two cars a
day; and that no ott1er auto shop has been asked to meet these conditions, which met or
exceeded the AQMD standards .
The PubHc Hearing was closed at 11 :25 P.M. by Chmn . Ketz .
Comm . Rue asked if, at their present location between 5th and 6th Streets on Pacific
Coast Hwy., another body shop could come in and use the facility?
Director Schubach explained that European Body Shop was currently under the master
C.U.P., and as such were in non-compliance as the site was too small and much of the
work had to be done outdoors, therefor, it was unlikely that another shop could use the
site.
Comm. Peirce stated tr1at the applicant had answered the questions raised by the
Commission regarding the technical means of suppressing odors from spray painting, and
had redesigned the building to be in compliance with the work to be done, for those
reasons he supported appro,,al of t~1e project.
PROPOSED MOTION by Comm. Peirce to approve Resolution P.C. 90-37 died for lack of a
second.
MOTION by Comm Rue, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to deny Resolution P.C. 90-37 due to
the prolif eratlon of body shops in the area, the potential for fumes, the pro~<imlty to
heavy traffic, and concerns regarding parking and the use of work bays for auto storage .
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AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT:
. Comms. Rue, Di Monda, Marks, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Peirce
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Council \>Vithin ten days.
Chmn. Ketz stated that due to the lateness of the hour, all items from No. 15 would be
suspended to the meeting of April 16, 1991, if there was no objection from the
Commission. Hearing no objections, so ordered.
When questioned by audience members about the placement of Item No. 15 on the next
agenda, Director Schubach answered that there were three public hearings_. so it would be
the fourth i tern on the agenda.
NR 90-7 --NONCONFORMING REMODEL TO ALLOW GREATER THAN 50% INCREASE
IN VALUATION AT 349 29TH STREET_
Director Schubach presented the staff report and recommended approval of the request,
subject to conditions, by adopting the proposed Resolution.
The applicant is proposing a remodel and addiUon to an existing nonconforming duplex
and conversion of the duplex to a conforming single dwelling unit. Altt1ough this will
make the use conforming in terms of density requirements, the structure would still be a
nonconforming structure because the existing garage does not include a third guest
parking space, the turning radius is slightly deficient, and the existing building is
slight 1 y nonconforming to the rear and front yard requirements.
With the parking stall width of 10.75 feet, the turning radius requirement would be 19
feet, however due to the setback of 2.7 feet and substandard alley width of 15 feet the
turning area is only 17.7 feet. The nonconforming yard requirements are: rear yard, 2.7
rather than 3 feet; front yard , 4.5 rather than 5 feet; and the side yard is allov-table by
being within 10% of the requirement at 2.8 rat~rer than 3 feet.
The lot size is 2416 square feet in an R-2 zone with a General Plan designation of
medium density. The existing building size is 1398 square feet in two units (900 and 498
sq. ft. respectively); the proposed addition is 1050 square feet (remodel area of 1093 sq.
ft.) resu1ting in a house of 2448 square feet, with a proposed increase in valuation of
98.5%.
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Although section 13-7(b) 11mHs the amount of expansion for a nonconforming structure
to 50%, it also allows the Planning Commission to determine that the goals, and the
intent and purpose, of this article are being met, thereby allowing greater than 50%
expansion.
The applicant has stated that the lot coverage would be reduced to meet the 65%
maximum requirement, included as a condition in the proposed Resolution.
Other wise, the proposed building conforms to all remaining zoning and planning
requirements in terms of garage dimensions for existing structures, open space, and the
setbacks for the portion of the building being added. The applicant is proposing to bring
the use of the property into conformity with density requirements, and the existing
nonconformities are not particularly unusual or severe.
In response to a question regarding possible bootleg rental by Comm. Peirce, Director
Schubach answered that staff always examines remodels for that potential.
Public Hearing opened at 11 :50 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Greg Grinnell, 349 29th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission to explain
that the property had been purchased in 1982. The duplex was appealing since the rental
income allowed them to move into Hermosa Beach, they were prepared to remodel several
years ago, but were prevented by the moratorium and subsequent loss of duplex rental
income. They supported the zoning and code changes by the City.
Responding to a question on the elevations by Comm. Di Monda, Mr. Grinnell stated that
the exteriors were stucco 'Nith 'Nood 'Nindows.
Public Hearing was closed at 11 :53 P.M. by Chmn.-Ketz
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, second by Comm. Peirce., to approve Resolution P.C. 91-25.
AVES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Peirce, Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Peirce referred to the photo of the body shops in the Aviation/ Prospect area and
noted that the fence on tt1e souttn•vest corner did not obscure visibility of the wrecked
cars from the street. He requested that enforcement of the body shop compliance with
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the code be given a higher priority as that condition had not changed for at ieast eight
months .
Director Schubach explained that it was a lengthy process, including two noncompliance
letters, schedu1ing wHh the CHy Prosecutor's office, and enforcement of complaints by
the Building Department.
MOTION by Comm . Rue , seconded by Comm. Peirce, to adjourn at 11:58 P.M. No objection;
So ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action
taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting
of April 2, 199 t.
0vJ--AO ~ rc=-s 011 -L
Christine Ketz, Chairman Michael Schubach, Secretary
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELD ON MARCH 5, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:02 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Peirce.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Rue•
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director: Edward Lee, Assistant City
Attorney: Sally White, Recording Secretary
(*Comm. Rue entered Council Chambers at 7:05 P.M.)
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve as submitted the following
consent calendar items:
Planning Commission minutes of February 19, 1991:
Resolution P.C. 90-84, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AN
AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ALLOWING OUTDOOR DINING
AND THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT 200 LONGFELLOW AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED
AS LOT 2, BLOCK 117, SHAKESPEARE TRACT.
There being no objection to approval, so ordered.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one appeared to address the Commission.
CON 91-1/PDP 91-1 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22305 FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 918 15TH STREET
CON 91-2/PDP 91-2 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22304 FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 930 15TH STREET
Chmn. Ketz noted that the two above projects would be heard together.
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated March 5, 1991, and recommended that this matter be
continued to the meeting of April 2, 1991. He explained that staff had received a letter from the
applicant requesting that the matter be continued.
Mr. Schubach further noted that only today staff had gone to the project site and discovered
that the on-street parking spaces which were thought to be legal parking are actually posted
with "No Parking" signs. Consequently, another parking space is not needed for this project.
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MINUTES OF 11IE PLANNING COM.MISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELD ON FEBRUARY 19, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN nIE CITY HALL COUNCll, CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:03 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Rue.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Marks,Rue,Chmn.Ketz
Comm. Peirce•
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director; Edward Lee, Assistant City
Attorney; Sally White, Recording Secretary
(*Comm. Peirce entered Council Chambers at 8:08 P.M.)
CONSENT CALENDAR
(Tilis item was approved at the end of the meeting so that Comm. Peirce could vote; however, it
is included here for clarity.)
Several corrections were made to the minutes of February 5, 1991: All roll call votes referring
to Comm. Aleks shall be amended to delete his name, since he had previously resigned from the
Commission; Page 16, last paragraph, Resolution number should be changed from P.C. 91 • 16 to
P .C. 91-18, since there was a duplication in the numbers.
A correction was made to Resolution P.C. 91-11, Condition No. 14: "Four paper racks are
presently standing on the parkway in front of the business illegally. They filli\U be removed."
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve as amended the following
consent calendar items:
Planning Commission minutes of February 15, 1991;
Resolution P.C. 91 ·11, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIIE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDffiONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-
SALE GENERAL LIQUOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH A MARKET AND DELI, AND TIIE ADOPTION
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 101 HERMOSA AVENUE, MICKEYS
DELI, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 13, HERMOSA BEACH TRACT;
Resolution P.C. 91 -12, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIIE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH. CALIFORNIA, TO DENY AV ARIANCE REQUEST FOR A 1WELVE (12) FOOT
GA.RAGE SETBACK RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED SEVENTEEN (17} FEET AND FOR A
PARALLEL SPACE BEHIND THE GARAGE TO COUNT AS A REQUIRED GUEST PARKING
SPACE AT 1010 OWOSSO AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 10, TRACT 5826;
Resolution P.C. 91-14, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH. CALIFORNIA. APPROVING A MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO
ALLOW OUTSIDE DINING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANTS .AND TO INCLUDE
THE SERVICE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES APPROVED PURSUANT TO THE C.U.P.S FOR
EACH RESTAURANT WITHIN THE HERMOSA PAVILION AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY AND
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LOT 13 AND SOUTHERLY 6.24 FEET OF A PORTION
OF LOT 14, BLOCK 81, SECOND ADDITION TO HERMOSA BEACH;
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:02 P .M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Marks.
ROIL CAIL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
Comms. Aleks, Rue
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director: Edward Lee, Assistant City
Attorney: Sally White, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve as submitted the following
consent calendar items:
Planning Commission minutes of January 15, 1991;
Resolution P.C. 91-6, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDmONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW ON-
SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY,
PICASSO'S ITALIAN CAFE, LEASE SPACE LOCATED IN THE NORfHEASTERN PORfION OF
THE PAVILION AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORI'ION OF LOT 13 AND SOUTHERLY 6.24
FEET OF A PORTION OF Wf 14, BWCK 81, SECOND ADDITION TO HERMOSA BEACH:
Resolution P.C. 91-7, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING
PLAN TO ALLOW A GAME ARCADE AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, LEASE SPACE NO 112, LEGALLY
DESCRIBED AS A PORrION OF WT 13 AND SOUTHERLY 6.24 FEET OF A PORfION OF LOT 14,
BWCK 81, SECOND ADDITION TO HERMOSA BEACH:
Resolution P.C. 91-1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE
A DAY NURSERY /PRESCHOOL WITH A MAXIMUM OF THIR1Y-FOUR (34) CHILDREN AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 44 HERMOSA AVENUE,
BEACH SHORES PRESCHOOL, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LITTS 2 AND 3, BWCK 41, FIRST
ADDmON TO HERMOSA BEACH:
Resolution P.C. 91-10, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALWW THE SALES OF MOTORCYCLES AND PARTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH
MINOR MOTORCYCLE REPAIR AT 638-640 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, DESCRIBED AS Wf 18
AND PORfION OF Wf 19, WILSON AND LIND'S TRACT.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Aleks, Rue
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELD ON JANUARY 15, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Rue.
ROIL CAIL
Present: Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Absent: None •
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director; Edward Lee, Assistant City
Attorney; Sally White, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to approve the following consent calendar
items:
Planning Commission minutes of January 2, 1991;
Resolution P.C. 91-1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PI.ANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH , CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22666 AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PI.AN FOR A 1WO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 36 15TH STREET, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 30, BLOCK 15, HERMOSA
BEACH TRACT;
Resolution P.C. 91 -2, A RESOLUTION OF THE PI.ANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-
SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL AND ADULT VIDEO AND MAGAZINE SALES AND ADOPTION OF
AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 400 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY,
COAST LIQUORS, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS Lars 1 AND 2, AND WESTERLY 16 FEET OF
Wf 3, HURD'S OCEAN VIEW;
Resolution P.C. 91-3, A RESOLUTION OF THE PI.ANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW A SECOND-STORY
ADDITION TO AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING WITHOUT PROVIDING ADDITIONAL OFF-
STREET PARKING AT 415 PIER AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 23 OF HISS'
ADDillON TO HERMOSA BEACH TRACT;
Resolution P.C. 91-4, A RESOLUTION OF THE PI.ANNINC COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDillONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW ON-
SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, #206
AND #207, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A POITTION OF LOT 13 AND SOUTHERLY 6.24 FEET
OF A POITTION OF Wf 14, BWCK 81, SECOND ADDmON TO HERMOSA BEACH;
Resolution P.C. 91-5, A RESOLUTION OF THE PI.ANNING COMMISSION OF THE CI1Y OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW ON-
SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 1559 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, SUITE D,
AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LOT 1, TRACT 9203, AND LOTS 11 -18
INCLUSIVE, BLOCK 80, SECOND ADDillON TO HERMOSA BEACH TRACT;
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELD ON JANUARY 2, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Peirce.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director; Paul Yoshinaga, Assistant City
Attorney; Sally White, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve the following consent
calendar items:
Planning Commission minutes of December 4, 1990;
Resolution P .C. 90-98, A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A VARIANCE TO ALWW A GARAGE SETBACK
OF 16 FEET RATIIER TI-IAN TIIE REQUIRED 17 FEET AND TO ALLOW TIIE SUBSTANDARD
SETBACK OF 16 FEET TO BE COUNTED AS A GUEST PARKING SPACE AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1734 PROSPECT AVENUE, LEGALLY
DESCRIBED AS LOT 9, ANGELA HEIGHT TRACT;
Resolution P.C. 90-101, A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALWW OFF-
SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITII A CONVENIENCE MARKET AND ADOPTION
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 828 HERMOSA AVENUE, JAY'S
MARKET, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS WTS 19 AND 20, TRACT 1564.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Comm. Rue discussed Resolution P .C. 90-103, Condition No. 5, stating that the intention of the
Planning Commission was to require landscaping whether or not the newspaper racks are
relocated.
Chmn. Ketz directed staff to modify the wording in C0ndition No. 5 of Resolution P.C . 90-103 to
clarify that landscaping is indeed required whether the newspaper racks are relocated or not.
MOTION by Comm. Rue. secorided by Comm. Peirce, to approve as amended Resolution P.C. 90-
103, A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIIE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 2
HERMOSA AVENUE, MARINA LIQUOR. AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS 1 AND 2, BWCK
42, FIRST ADDffiON TO HERMOSA BEACH.
AYES :
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks. Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one appeared to address the Commission.
CUP 90-25 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO DETAILING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 825 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, HABASH
AUI'O DETAILING (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF DECEMBER 4, 1990)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission deny the requested conditional use permit, based on insufficient parking for the
combination of the proposed auto sales lot and the detailing business. As an alternative, staff
recommended approval of a master conditional use permit for the combination of the auto
sales and auto detailing businesses.
At the meeting of December 4, 1990, the Planning Commission continued this request for
consideration of a master CUP for the property in question and also based on the fact that
neither the applicant nor the landowner was present for the hearing.
Staff does not feel that the site can support these two distinct businesses because of the lack of
customer and employee parking. However, if the Planning Commission is comfortable
making a finding, in consideration of the detailing business' proposed use of a service to pick
up and deliver all customer vehicles, and that the auto bays should count toward the parking
requirement, then adoption of the proposed master CUP resolution would be appropriate.
The proposed master resolution incorporates all conditions from the existing CUP for auto
sales as well as suggested additional conditions for mitigating the impacts from the proposed
auto detailing business.
Mr . Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce related to the use of a valet service
at this business, explained that even though the City does have a code enforcement officer,
strict enforcement of a valet service would be difficult to monitor over a long period of time.
Public Hearing opened at 7:08 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz, who noted that no one appeared to speak on
this issue.
Mr. Schubach explained that the applicant was sent a notice informing him of the date and
time of this hearing. He stated that the applicant has not contacted the Planning Department
regarding this matter, and he was unaware of the reason for the applicant's absence.
Public Hearing closed at 7:09 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. ·Rue recalled that the reason this hearing was continued from the last meeting was to
allow the applicant and the landowner an opportunity to be present to discuss this matter;
however, he noted that they did not appear and he therefore felt denial would be appropriate.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to deny the request to allow the operation
of an auto detailing business in conjunction with an existing auto sales business at 825 Pacific
Coast Highway, Habash Auto Detailing.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
(The applicant arrived later in the meeting, and the public hearing on this item was reopened.
See Page 16 of the minutes.)
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CUP 90-23 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PATIO DINING HOURS
UNTil, DARK AT 200 LONGFELLOW AVENUE (CONTINUED FROM MEETINGS OF OCTOBER 16
AND NOVEMBER 20, 1990)
Mr. Schubach stated that as of Thursday. December 27, 1990, staff had not received an affidavit
of noticing from the applicant. The applicant was contacted by staff who was told that the
letters had been sent out; however, no proof of mailing has been received. He further noted that
he saw no one in the audience to speak on this issue.
Mr. Schubach suggested, therefore, that this matter be continued. He explainedthat staff has
implemented a new policy whereby the proper mailings will now be done by staff, upon
payment by the applicant for postage and paper.
Comm. Aleks noted concern that this matter will again be continued, and he felt such a
practice is a waste of staff's time.
Mr. Schubach explained that staff is hoping to avoid these problems in the future, since staff
will now be doing the mailings.
Public Hearing opened at 7: 13 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz, who noted that no one appeared to speak on
this issue.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation to
continue this public hearing to the meeting of February 19, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 90-21 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22666, AND
A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 36 15TH STREET
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 18, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission continue this request to the meeting of February 5, 1991, to require the applicant
to re-design the project so that access is provided from the alley only.
This project is located in the R -3 zone, with a general plan designation of high density
residential. The lot size is 3692 square feet. . The existing use is as a single-family dwelling.
The proposed density is 23.6 units per acre . Seven parking spaces are provided, and two on-
street parking spaces will be lost. 880 square feet of open space will be provided . The
environmental determination is categorically exempt.
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The subject property is located immediately to the east of parking lot "F" which is part of the
Biltmore Site. The lot width tapers from 41 feet at the street frontage to 35 feet along the alley,
and it is basically flat.
The proposed structure consists of two units containing approximately 2100 square feet each,
and each unit has four bedrooms and three and a half baths. These units are three levels and
include a roof deck. The side yard areas are proposed to be raised four feet above grade so that
the bottom level can qualify as a basement pursuant to the building code. The advantage of
qualifying as a basement is that only one exit is required to all levels, rather than the two exits
that would be required for a three-story structure.
The proposed building elevations exhibit a stucco exterior, pipe railings. glass block, and dark
anodized aluminum windows. The design mixes rounded comers with standard square
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corners which will somewhat soften the impact of the bulky structure. The combination of
features gives the building a contemporary art deco appearance.
Parking is provided in two, two-car garages oriented to both the alley and the street. The
proposed street access results in a curb cut that would eliminate two existing on-street metered
parking spaces. Three guest spaces are provided in the setback areas behind the garages to
provide required guest parking and to replace the two lost on-street spaces.
As the Commission is aware, the adopted Circulation, Transportation, and Parking Element of
the General Plan, implement policy 4.9 states: "Require that vehicle access to new residential
developments which front on both street and alley be provided in the alley only. This will
minimize on-street curb cuts and preserve available parking."
Also, the condominium section of the zoning ordinance, under "Purpose," states that the
ordinance is to promote certain standards including: "(d) A layout of structures and other
facilities to effect consetvation in street, driveway, curb cut and other public or quasi-public
improvements .... "
Given these established policies, the Planning Commission clearly has the authority to
require alley-only access. In stafrs judgment, it definitely should be required in this case,
given that two public parking spaces would be lost. Further, these two spaces are very close to
the beach on a street which does not have very much available parking. Also, since it is a flat
lot with adequate width, providing parking with access from the alley can be accomplished
rather easily and can be done so in a manner that provides as much off-street parking as is
being proposed.
Recently, the Planning Commission has allowed projects to access from both an alley and a
street. However, in those cases an ovezwhelming factor in making that determination was that
the alley sides of the lots were at a much higher grade than the street side, thus making it
difficult to provide access via a driveway because of the slope involved. Also, in both of those
cases the lots were only 30 feet wide.
Staff also noted that the project architect was 'notified of these City policies regarding access on
December 11, 1990, to give him adequate time to revise plans to meet staffs concerns prior to
the scheduled hearing date. The applicant, however, has chosen to take this proposed design to
the Commission.
The project complies with most other planning and zoning requirements. Lot coverage
calculates to be 65 percent: adequate open space is provided in private decks; and the height is
right at the 35-foot limit. However, plans need to indicate the ground-floor storage.
Another. staff concern relates to the proposed ground-floor family rooms, which could easily be
converted to bootleg units since a bathroom and doozway exit are located at that level.
Since the parking lt::vel design needs to be completely changed to bring in access from the alley
only, the plans should be revised and returned to the Planning Commission at a later date.
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Mr. Schubach stated that, if so desired by the Commission as an alternative, the requested
project may be approved by adoption of the proposed resolution of approval, which includes a
condition to require that doozway access to the ground-floor bedrooms be eliminated.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, explained the setback
requirements, stating that there must be a 17-foot setback from a street; however, alleys are
not required to have the 17-foot setback.
Public Hearing opened at 7:23 P.M . by Chmn. Ketz.
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Gerry Compton, 200 Pier Avenue, project architect, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated
that when he discussed this project with City staff last summer. no mention was made of the
fact that there was a problem with the access for this project: (2) stated that, so far as he is
aware, there is no City ordinance in place requiring alley-only access: (3) explained that he has
no objection to the alley-only access concept, however, he does object to such a requirement
when it is not actually a law: (4) said that he had no idea that such a requirement would be
imposed on new projects. and he noted that others will have difficulty in determining what is
and what is not required for projects in the City; (5) discussed the parking problems in the City,
especially as they relate to parking for small single-lot projects which will ultimately have too
much concrete in order to provide for the parking.
Mr. Compton continued and: (1) discussed his project, stating that one entire side is
landscaped: (2) discussed the lower-level access, stating that he was attempting to provide patio
access: (3) said that the parking requirement was placed on this project without his prior
knowledge, and he did not feel this was an appropriate condition; (4) felt that if the alley-only
access is to be a requirement in the City, public hearings should be held at the Planning
Commission and City Council levels, and it should be fully discussed and analyzed.
Mr. Compton went on and: (1) stated that he has worked on many other projects that have a
single access, and he noted that it is difficult to make tum-arounds on such projects: (2)
stressed that the staff-proposed parking would result in a sea of concrete: (3) said that the
proposed project will be quite nice, noting that the west side has a ten-foot setback due to the
large lot size; (4) felt that the design is quite interesting; (5) commented that the two units have
been separated in the middle so that there is a single-family feeling to the units.
Mr. Compton continued and: (1) discussed the existing street parking and handed out a parking
analysis prepared by his staff; (2) stated that. with a slight modification to the plans, the
project could be built with the loss of only one on-street parking space: (3) noted that the project
was initially reviewed by staff with no comment made about the alley-only access: (4) noted
that staff made no mention of the problem until early December, which did not allow the
applicant time to revise the plans: (5) commented that the alley-only access requirement has
been implemented without benefit of public hearings, and there is no ordinance currently in
place related to .that requirement. •
Mr. Compton continued and: ( 1) suggested that there be a zoning code revision if the City
decides to implement the alley-only access requirement on projects: (2) stated that he very
closely monitors City Council and Planning Commission actions so that he is well informed
as to City requirements: (3) said that it is very difficult to work in this City because there are so
many requirements: (4) commented that the Circulation Element is very comprehensive and
has too many requirements which have not been incorporated into the City codes: (5) discussed
how changes are made in this City. and he stated that it is not reasonable to expect people to
keep abreast of all the new requirements.
Mr. Compton concluded by discussing the on-street parking which will be lost, and he stated he
would be willing to accept a condition requiring that no more than one on-street parking space
be removed.
Public Hearing closed at 7:40 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Rue discussed general plan implementation policies. He stated that he was unaware of
how the alley-only access requirement evolved, noting that that requirement is only a policy,
not an ordinance. He felt that if such a requirement is to be imposed, it should go through
public hearings.
Chmn. Ketz pointed out, however, that the general plan amendments were addressed during
public hearings, and the plan was adopted . She did not feel it would be appropriate to have
every single element of the general plan adopted as ordinances.
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Comm. Rue stated that it is difficult for people to begin projects when they are not aware of all
the requirements. He felt that a city should not be run by its general plan; rather, the code
should be the guiding document. If it is desired to implement general plan items, he felt that l
they should be addressed in public hearings first and then adopted as ordinances.
Comm. Aleks noted concern that the applicant was unaware of the alley-only access
requirement, commenting that the applicant was informed only on December 11 that there
was a problem with the parking. He therefore agreed that a public hearing should be held to
address the alley-only access requirement. noting that it would be difficult to apply such a
requirement in all cases.
Comm. Peirce felt that this project should have alley-only access. He continued by discussing
the bootleg potential of this particular project, noting that it would be a prime candidate for a
bootleg conversion even if the outside door were removed. He noted that the "family room" is
quite large, almost 500 square feet, has a full bathroom at that level, and there is a large closet.
He stated that he could not support approval of the project, based on its bootleg potential and
based on the proposed parking.
Comm. Peirce, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, stated that even if the door w ere
removed from the lower level, he would still oppose the project, explaining that the interior
entryway could be modified, and the area would still be completely self-contained. He could
not be convinced that a family room needs a full bathroom, stating that the only reason for a
full bath would be the desire to use the room as a bedroom.
-Comm. Peirce stated that even if the lower level were modified, he could not support this
project, based on the proposed parking.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, explained the enforcement
procedures and penalties for bootleg use.
Comm. Aleks noted concern over the potential bootleg use, stating that the possibility could be
reduced by requiring the size of the bathroom to be reduced and by requiring the shower to be
removed from the bathroom.
Public Hearing reopened at 7:52 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Compton explained that the owner will occupy one of the units, and the lower level was
designed to accommodate the owner's mother. It was then decided to have the same
configuration in the other unit. He stated that, if so desired by the Commission, the bathtubs
can be removed from the lower-level bathrooms.
Mr. Compton shared the Commissions' concerns related to bootleg conversions in the City,
noting that such uses benefit no one.
Public Hearing closed at 7:55 P .M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Chmn. Ketz stated that she could not support this project, based on the fact that she strongly
favors the alley-only access. She felt that there should be better communications between
architects and City staff, and she suggested that mandatory preliminary meetings be held so
that staff can let their concerns be known before detailed plans are prepared.
Mr. Schubach explained that such meetings are held; however, he suggested that written
concerns can be provided to applicants, and copies can be maintained on file by staff.
Mr. Compton stated that it is very difficult for people to understand the requirements of the
City.
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Comm. Rue suggested that written handouts be provided to applicants so that they are fully
informed of the requirements.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to approve Resolution P.C. 91-1, with the
following modifications: (1) that the downstairs bathtub be eliminated, and the size of the
bathroom be reduced to include only a toilet and sink: and (2) that only one on-street parking
space shall be removed, and the applicant shall be required to pay for any realignment of
parking spaces.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Rue
Comm.Peirce,Chmn.Ketz
None
None
Comm. Rue hoped that as much on-street parking as possible can be retained in the City.
Chmn. Ketz agreed and suggested that that item be discussed by the Commission.
PARK 90-7 -PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW A SECOND-STORY OFFICE ADDITION PROVIDING
LESS THAN THE REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 415 PIER AVENUE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission deny the requested parking plan.
This project is located in the C-2 zone, with a general plan designation of general commercial.
The lot size is 3239 square feet. The current use is as a one-story medical office. The floor area
is 1600 square feet. There are four legal parking spaces. The proposed addition is 1145 square
feet, which results in a requirement of 14 parking spaces.
The Planning Commission, at their meeting of September 5, 1989, denied a similar request for
a parking plan and variance to allow the second-story addition. On October 10, 1989, the City
Council sustained the Planning Commission decision on appeal.
The staff environmental review committee, at their meeting of September 20, 1990,
recommended denial of the request and recommended that approval only be considered if an
environmental impact report is prepai:ed to address cumulative impacts of any further similar
projects.
The applicant is requesting to construct a second-story addition to an existing medical office
building. Instead of requesting a variance, the applicant has revised the request as a parking
plan oajy. The suggestion is that the parking deficiency of ten spaces (14 required versus 4
available) can be justified by the use of a combination of ride sharing, public transit, and the
leasing of parking for employees at Plaza Hermosa.
The commercial building is currently nonconforming to parking. Four standard-sized
parking spaces are available off the alley. Under current requirements for the existing
structure, eight spaces would be required. The applicant indicates that as many as ten cars can
actually be parked behind the office if parking in tandem, assuming a parking space size of
eight feet by fifteen feet.
The concerns previously noted by staff and the Planning Commission are still valid: How can
the City effectively enforce the ride-sharing/public transit/off-site parking proposal? What
happens when the business changes? How can the City legally stop the use of the second story
or enforce the ride-sharing program to the new business? What about the precedent that would
be set? Can the downtown area support additional building square footage without parking?
Will it have a negative impact on other existing businesses that depend on an available supply
of parking?
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Further, in staffs judgement, this proposal does not fit within the scope of the provisions of
Section 1169 pertaining to parking plans for the following reasons: (1) The proposal does not \
address the issue of the impact of additional customer parking. Even if this addition is for l
personal office space and storage only, it will free up additional space downstairs and
potentially increase the number of customers; (2) The feasibility and continued use of the ride-
sharing program is questionable for an employee staff this small; (3) The amount of the
requested deficiency is rather severe (four spaces instead of fourteen) and as such, the
immediate impact on adjacent businesses could be severe; and (4) the suggestion to use some of
the public parking at Plaza Hermosa is not feasible, as that parking was provided for public use
as part of the development agreement with the City.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Rue, explained that the legal requirement
for a compact parking space is seven and a half feet by fifteen and a half feet.
Public Hearing opened at 8:06 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Jack Wood, 200 Pier Avenue, Hermosa Beach, representing the applicant, addressed the
Commission and: (1) stated that he has appeared before the Commission previously on this
item; (2) stated that the applicant is a pioneer and wishes to propose an alternative; (3) said that
the City is not willing to face the severe parking problem; (4) discussed the basic precepts of
parking in the City, stating that the parking is for people visiting the City's business areas.
Mr. Wood continued and: (1) said that there are ways to solve the parking problems in the City;
(2) said that the way to reduce density is to zone more areas commercial; (3) discussed the
configuration of the City's commercial areas; (4) noted that most of the lots in the City are very
small; (5) explained that the applicant is a very well-known doctor who has many patients
from out of state, who do not even drive to the office; rather, they are picked up and driven to
the office.
Mr. Wood went on and: (1) stated that the applicant needs additional room for record storage;
(2) noted that the applicant has no desire to expand his business, and he is willing to sign a
document attesting to that fact; (3) commented that the applicant and several of his employees
do not drive to work; (4) stated that the applicant is willing to do anything to have this project
approved; (5) said that the automobile rules everyone's lives in this day and age; (6) said that the
applicant will help the City solve its parking problem.
Mr. Wood went on and: (1) asked that the Planning Commission designate a subcommittee to
discuss the options with himself and the applicant; (2) said that the applicant will be in
business for another 15 years, and he is sincerely attempting to solve his problem as well as
help the City's parking problem; (3) stressed that Hermosa Beach businesses cannot provide
'parking _ on-site and be competitive with other local businesses; (4) stressed that parking must
be provided without the use of conventional methods; (5) noted that there are parking problems
only on the weekends and in the summer.
Mr. Wood continued and: (1) suggested that flexible methods be implemented to attack the
parking problems; (2) said that if the City wants to improve the parking, parking districts
should be provided throughout the commercial areas on lots as they become available; (3)
discussed the concept of buying lots for use as parking; (4) again raised the issue of his meeting
with a Planning Commission subcommittee to tackle the parking problem.
Comm. Marks asked what proposals have been submitted related to the parking for this
proposed project.
Mr. Wood stated that: (1) the applicant will guarantee that a specified number of his employees
will not drive to the site; (2) it is impossible to expect patients to park in the rear of this site; (3)
all four of the existing parking spaces will be left for patient use, and the spaces will be
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patrolled: (4) every step will be taken to ensure that patients will not park on the street: (5) the
applicant is very interested in reaching a compromise as to the parking.
Mr. Wood went on and: (1) stated that patients could be picked up and shuttled to the business:
(2) said people could be required to sign affidavits stating that they will not drive to the office.
Comm. Marks noted that the area is already very congested, and the proposed expansion
without the required additional parking would exacerbate the problem.
Mr. Wood stated that if clients do park in the other business' parking spaces, the other property
owner will complain, and tickets could then be issued to violators.
Comm. Marks suggested that Mr. Wood contact a parking specialist to address the parking
problem for this business. to which Mr. Wood countered that the solution is to provide remote
parking for the business.
Mr. Wood stated that the applicant can control his employees: therefore, enforcement is
somewhat easier. He stated that covenants can be placed on the property to ensure compliance.
He stressed that innovative solutions must be implemented in the City.
Comm. Marks again urged Mr. Wood to consult a parking consultant to address the problem of
having a certain amount of space and only a certain amount of parking space. He felt that a
request for a 70 percent expansion without providing additional parking is not appropriate.
Mr. Wood stated that many other businesses in town do not have the required parking. He said
that in order for businesses to succeed in the City, innovative parking arrangements must be
considered. He felt that the answer lies in providing remote parking.
Mr. Wood, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that, for whatever reasons,
patients will simply not park in the rear.
Dr. Johnston, owner of the property next to the proposed project site, addressed the
Commission an<;l: ( 1) explained that. contrary to Mr. Wood's assertion, there is no professional
jealousy between him and the applicant, stating that on occasion he has even loaned medical
equipment to Dr. David; (2) stated that the proposed second-story addition would have a serious
financial impact on his business: (3) said that Dr. David's practice has grown tremendously
over the years: (4) explained that his is the only building on the street with a sideyard; (5) stated
that for some reason people do not want to travel down the sideyard to park in the rear.
Dr. Johnston continued and: (1) noted that Dr. David's property has no sideyard, therefore,
people will not drive around to the back and then walk to the front of the building: (2) stressed
that there is no jealously here; his main objection relates to the financial impacts to his
business; (3) said that many of his patients are elderly and in pain and are not able to park a
distance away and walk to the office; (4) noted concern over enforcement of innovative parking
arrangements. such as valet service and/or shuttle service to the office; (5) noted concern over
the fact that the business could be sold, and the new owner may not want to utilize valet
parking; (6) said that he was contemplating selling his business to another doctor, however. the
other doctor decided against the purchase due to the lack of parking in the area: (7) stressed that
parking is a problem all the time in this area.
Parker Herriott, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) stated that even in the
evening there is a parking shortage in the area of the proposed project; (2) concurred with staffs
recommendation to deny this request; (3) urged the Commission to use the same reasoning that
was used when this project was previously denied; (4) stated that there is nothing wrong with
trying to improve one's property. however. the required parking should be provided, possibly
underground: (5) noted that the proper parking is not available for the proposed project.
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Jim Lissner, 2715 El Oeste, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) questioned
what will happen if this project were approved and the current owner sold the property: (2)
stressed that the proper parking must be provided, either through the use of car stackers or
through the demolition of the ground floor of the building so that it could be used for parking.
Gerry Compton, 200 Pier Avenue , Hermos a Beach, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) agreed
that innovative parking methods must be utilized to mitigate the severe parking problems in
the City: (2) stated that it might make sense to try an innovation in this case: (3) stressed the
importance of making the commercial areas viable , noting that businesses provide most of the
taxes that maintain the infrastructure of the City: (4) discussed various methods by which the
parking problems could be addressed: (5) discussed the project at hand, stating that the
applicant might reduce the size of t he proposed addition, or he might consider the use of triple
stackers.
Mr . Wood stated that there is a back door at the applicant's office, and people could use that
entrance if so desired. He encouraged the Commission to form a subcommittee to meet with
him to address the parking problem for this proposed project. He stressed that he is trying to
take positive steps in regard to this project.
Public Hearing closed at 8:50 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
Comm. Rue agreed that there are severe parking problems in this City. He addressed Mr. Wood's
suggestion that the Commission designate a subcommittee to find a solution for this project's
parking problems and stated that the Chamber of Commerce has formed a committee to
address parking concerns and the VPD is taking steps also. He stated that he does not have the
time to sit on another committee to address this applicant's problems. He did agree, however,
that something must be done about the problem.
Comm. Rue stated that the purpose of the Commission is not to serve as deal brokers: rather,
they are a planning body. He wanted to see parking improvements and stated that he would
lend his support: however, he felt it is inappropriate for the applicant to ask the
Commissioners to spend additional time on this project. He suggested that the applicant
present a concrete proposal which can be addressed by the Commission.
Comm. Peirce felt it would not be appropriate to allow businesses to expand without providing
parking. He stated that most "innovative" solutions are only short-term remedies. He felt that
long-term parking solutions must be accomplished by the City. He stated that maintaining a
parking plan over a number of years is not feasible.
Comm. Aleks stated that it is not appropriate to allow this business to expand without
providing additional parking, noting that there is already a severe parking problem in this
area. He felt that a parking plan would be difficult to enforce. Therefore, he could not support
approval of this project.
Chmn. Ketz felt that long-term specific solutions are necessary for this area, ,u1d she did not
feel that the proposed parking plan would be a long-term solution.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91 -3, denying the parking plan request at 415 Pier Avenue.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks , Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to direct staff to send a letter to the VPD
and Chamber of Commerce requesting that parking updates be sent to the Commission. The
letter should also indicate the Commission's concerns and interest in this matter, and the fact
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that the Commission lends its support to the program. The Commissions' interest relates
specifically to the downtown area, Pacific Coast Highway, Pier Avenue, and Hermosa Avenue.
No objections; so ordered.
Recess taken from 8:59 P.M. until 9:08 P.M.
CUP 90-24 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ADULT VIDEOS AND FOR OFF-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AT AN EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY LICENSED BY THE A.B.C. AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 400 PIER AVENUE,
COAST LIQUOR
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended approval of the
requested conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed
resolution.
This project is located in a SPA zone, with a general plan designation of general commercial.
The lot size is 10,324 square feet. The building size is 4085 square feet. The current use is as a
preexisting liquor store and mini convenience store. There are 14 parking spaces (shared with
the 'The Laundry Basket" laundromat).
Coast Liquor is located on the northeast comer of Pacific Coast Highway and 4th Street. It
shares the building with one other business, a laundromat, occupying 60 percent of the
building space. The liquor store is open from 7:30 AM. until 12:00 AM. during the week and
until 2:00 AM. on the weekends.
Coast Liquor is one of the remaining existing businesses selling alcoholic beverages which has
not obtained a conditional use permit subject to the alcohol amortization ordinance.
At their meeting of November 8, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration and recommended that the Planning
Commission require the applicant/ owner to place the refuse cans inside an enclosure and to
reduce window signage to the maximum of 20 percent. They also advised the owner that hard
core pornography would not be allowed and because of past AB.C. violations, it was requested
that the owner participate in the EASY Program.
The requested CUP would authorize the continued general alcohol sales, and if approved would
allow the sale of adult videos and magazines.
Staffs concerns relative to the video sales are major in nature. The proposed use of a liquor
store/video sales could be a dangerous trend for wholesale opening of these types of businesses
to mixed usage in establishments that service neighborhoods. Because of the proximity to
residences, within one hundred feet, and the possible availability to minors for sale, it is felt
by staff that this is not a proper mix of businesses. Also, Section 10-5 of the zoning ordinance
states the sale of adult videos should be greater than 100 feet from residential property. Staff
has no intention of infringing on first amendment rights, but feels such usage is inappropriate.
According to the City Attorney, since the proposed video sales are only a small portion of the
business, incidental to alcohol sales, the City does not have the authority to deny the sales. As
such. staff recommended that the video sales must remain incidental to the liquor
store/convenience store and should not represent more than 10 percent of the sales.
Since this is an existing mini market/ general alcohol sale business, staff felt that the sale of
alcohol should be allowed to continue. subject to the proposed conditions which are limited to
standard conditions of the zoning ordinance and conditions related to the trash and the
signage. The standard conditions include a provision to require that single containers be sold
in clear bags. Also, the Police Department has requested that an additional standard
condition be included to require alcohol sale establishments to participate in the EASY
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Program. Finally, staff did not endorse the mixed usage and felt that video sales in a liquor
store is inappropriate.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Chmn. Ketz, explained that this business is
within 100 feet of residential usage: however, according to State law, the p r oposed sale of
videos does not constitute an "adult" use, which is prohibited within 100 feet of residential
areas. He explained that an "adult" business devotes most of its sales to "adult" materials; this
business does not. The City, therefore, cannot condition this business as an "adult"
establishment.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce related to the signage, stated that
some of the signs have been removed at Coast Liquor. •
Comm. Peirce noted concern over excessive signage at other businesses, and he hoped that the
code will be enforced in regard to signs at this business.
Public Hearing opened at 9 :14 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Patterson, 400 Pacific Coast Highway, addressed the Commission and stated that he has
read the conditions and has no objection to them. He also noted that the signage is now in
compliance with the City's requirements. He further stated that he will comply with the EASY
Program requirements.
Debbie Lube, 843 3rd Street. Hermosa Beach, noted concern over the proliferation of adult uses
along Pacific Coast Highway. She felt that it is not appropriate to allow adult materials to be
sold in areas which are so close to residential areas.
Jim Lissner, 2715 El Oeste, Hermosa Beach, suggested that the Commission regulate the hours
of businesses of this type in order to discourage such use. He felt that adult businesses are not
in the best interests of the City.
Public Hearing closed at 9:18 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Yoshinaga, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce related to regulation of the hours
of operation, stated that the hours of operation for a business of this type can be regulated.
Comm. Rue, noting that he is not an advocate of X-rated movies, stated that it is important.
however, to acknowledge first amendment rights. He stated that the proposed conditions
address the concerns of staff: therefore, he could support approval of the request.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staff's -recommendation,
Resolut~on P .C. 91-2, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-26 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN
CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. MONKEE'S RESTAURANT
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended approval of the
requested CUP, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
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This project is located in SPA 8, with a general plan designation of commercial corridor. The
lease space size is 3600 square feet inside and 1438 square feet outside. The current use is as a
restaurant under construction.
The proposed restaurant is located within the Hermosa Pavilion on the second level, which is
the same level as the theaters. The parking requirements for the entire Pavilion are subject to
a parking plan. This space was originally identified for restaurant purposes.
At their meeting of August 9, 1990, the staff environmental review committee recommended an
environmental negative declaration and further recommended that a condition be included to
require that the outside dining area be clearly separated from the outdoor public areas to
prevent pass-through of alcoholic beverages.
The requested CUP would authorize the sale of beer and wine and spirits for consumption on
the premises. subject to the standard conditions of the zoning ordinance. The applicant will
also apply to the State A.B.C. Department for a license.
The floor plans show that a small bar area is included for seating of patrons waiting for a table
and would also allow for non-dining customers to purchase a beverage.
Staff has no concerns related to the existing appearance or operation of the business that
would necessitate any further conditions than the standard conditions required for this type of
CUP. Those conditions include the restriction that at least 50 percent of the gross sales must be
from prepared foods (a maximum of 50 percent for alcohol sales). Staff also recommended a
condition that a permanent structure be installed to separate the outside dining area from the
public area.
The business is contained inside the existing mall, and the applicant has indicated that the
hours of operation would be from 11:00 A.M. to midnight on weekdays, and until 1:00 A.M. on
weekends. Staff further recommended a condition to limit the operation to these requested
hours.
Staff recommended approval of the request because this area, unlike the downtown area. is not
considered to be heavily impacted by a saturation of alcohol establishments, and adequate
parking is available. Also, the primary function of the business would be as a restaurant
which fits in with the original designation for this floor within the Pavilion. Additionally.
the mall maintains its own security patrol during its operating hours: therefore, additional
police patrol should not be necessary.
Comm. Aleks, explaining that he lives within 300 feet of the project site, stated that he would
abstain from discussion on this item.
Public Hearing opened at 9:25 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Dee Harris, property manager of the Pavilion, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated that
the Pavilion has its own security and parking area on site; (2) stated that, at the request of the
City, a plexiglass wall will be built around the patio dining area: (3) noted that signs will be
posted advising that the patio area is only for use by Monkee's patrons: (4) explained that
Monkee's is a four-star Chinese restaurant with two other locations in Southern California; (5)
stated that patrons must enter through the restaurant itself in order to get to the patio dining
area; (6) explained that the door shown on the plans is for exit purposes only on the patio; (7)
commented on the bar area, noting that the applicant has not stated that the bar is absolutely
necessary, however, the other locations have a bar so that people can have a drink while
waiting for their table.
Public Hearing closed at 9:28 P.M. by Chmn Ketz.
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Comm. Peirce favored a quality restaurant corning in to the City: however, he noted concern
over the separate bar area and questioned whether the City really needs another bar as part of a
restaurant. He stated that he would have no opposition if the bar served only beer and wine;
however, he objected to a bar with a substantial number of seats selling hard liquor. He did not
feel such a use would be appropriate at the Pavilion.
Comm. Rue noted that many other restaurants in mall areas have general alcohol sales. He did
not feel that the bar area is that large, and he noted that the applicant has restaurant
experience at other locations. He said that most upscale restaurants do have bars, and he could
therefore support approval of the request. He felt that it is important to make this center a
success.
Comm. Marks noted that bars are an integral part of a restaurant's business: he therefore did
not feel it would be appropriate to manipulate this business. He stated that he has been to
another Monkee's, and it is a very nice establishment.
Chmn. Ketz agreed that a bar is an integral part of a nice restaurant, especially when people are
waiting to be seated at a table.
Comm. Peirce pointed out that the resolution allows 50 percent alcohol sales. He felt that for
an occasional use, 50 percent seems to be a high percentage.
Mr. Schubach explained that 50 percent is a standard condition for hard liquor: beer and wine
sales are allowed to be a maximum of 35 percent of the total sales. He stated that the
percentages were suggested by the AB.C.
Comm. Peirce felt that 50 percent is excessive.
Comm. Rue stated that this establishment could not be construed as a full-scale bar.
Comm. Peirce noted the long hours of operation, and he did not feel most people would be
dining after 10:00 P.M. He noted concern that people would be corning in late and ordering only
drinks.
Comm. Rue shared Comm. Peirce's concerns: however, he stated that this is an upscale
restaurant, and he did not feel it constitutes a full-scale bar.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-4, as written.
AYES :
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Peirce
Comm. Aleks
None
CUP 90-27 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AT 1559 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, BROOKLYN BRICK OVEN PIZZA
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended approval of the
requested CUP, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in SPA 8, with a general plan designation of general commercial. The
lease space size is 1500 square feet, and its current use is as a restaurant.
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The restaurant is located within Plaza Hermosa in building "C" on the first level below the
Warehouse. The restaurant occupies the space that was initially Bagel Buddies, which was
allowed because the center has more than adequate parking for the mix of uses.
At their meeting of November 8, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration.
The requested CUP would authorize the sale of beer and wine and/ or consumption on the
premises, subject to the standard conditions of the zoning ordinance. The applicant will also
need to apply to the State AB.C. Department for a license.
Staff had no concerns related to the existing appearance or operation of the business that
would necessitate any further conditions than the standard conditions required for this type of
CUP. Those conditions include the restriction that at least 65 percent of the gross sales must be
from prepared foods, and a maximum of 35 percent from the sale of beer and wine.
The location is part of an existing shopping center, and the applicant has indicated that the
hours will be from 11:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M. on weekdays and until 11:00 P.M. on weekends.
Staff also recommended a condition to limit the hours of operation to these requested times.
Staff recommended approval of the request because this area, unlike the downtown area, is not
considered to be heavily impacted by a saturation of alcohol establishments. Also, plenty of
adequate parking is available. Additionally, the primary function of the business would still
be as a restaurant, which fits in with the original plans for Plaza Hermosa.
Staff noticed that the restaurant occasionally places tables up on the sidewalk in front of the
restaurant. This would not be permitted, as it blocks the sidewalk which is necessary for
pedestrian access. As such, staff included a condition prohibiting outside seating and/or
outside service of alcoholic beverages.
Comm. Aleks, explaining that he lives within 300 feet of the project site, stated that he would
abstain from discussion on this item.
Public Hearing opened at 9:39 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Robert Udovich, 535 Gravely Court, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and
stated that he has no opposition to the proposed conditions as recommended by staff.
Public Hearing closed at 9:40 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Rue noted that this business has been in operation for more than a year, and he wished
the app),icant success.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-5, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None •
Comm. Aleks
None
Chmn. Ketz noted that Mr. Habash (applicant for Agenda Item 6) was now present in the
audience at this time.
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CUP 90-25 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO DETAILING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 825 PACIFIC COAST IIlGHWAY, HABASH
AUTO DETAILING (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF DECEMBER 4, 1990)
(This matter was heard earlier in the meeting. See Page 2.)
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to reconsider the public hearing held on
this matter.
Comm. Aleks expressed concern that this matter is being reopened at this time, noting that
someone had left council chambers after the item was voted upon earlier in the meeting. He
stated that it is possible that public testimony would have been given had the person known
that the matter was going to be reopened.
Mr. Yoshinaga stated that this matter can be continued to a future date and renoticed so that
interested citizens can be available to provide public testimony. As an alternative, the
Commission can stand on the decision made earlier in the meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated that, if the Commission decides to reopen and continue this hearing, the
applicant would have to pay for postage and paper for the renoticing. The applicant would not,
however, have to pay another hearing fee.
(VOTE ON MOTION TO RECONSIDER:)
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to continue this public hearing to the
meeting of February 5, 1991, with the matter to be renoticed (costs for postage and paper to be
paid by the applicant). No objections: so ordered. •
MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEW AT 555 PACIFIC COAST IIlGHWAY
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 27, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission direct staff to strictly enforce the conditions of the subject conditional use
permit.
Between August 15, 1989, a.-id December 14, 1989, the Plannh,g Commission considered this
CUP. One of the 29 conditions imposed by the Commission specified that there be an annual
and a mid-year review. Staff continued by outlining the findings of the inspection.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to direct £taff to strictly enforce the
conditions of the subject conditional use permit.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
a) Memorandum Re2ardln2 City Council/Plannln4 Commission Workshop
The dates of February 21 and February 28 were suggested for the workshop.
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Topics suggested for discussion included downtown business parking; an update on RUDAT
activities: and where people in the City are going, as related to the transportation issue.
b) P~ Department Activity Report for November 1990
No action taken.
c) Memorandum Regarding Plannlm! Commission Liaison for January 8. 1991. Meetlru!
No one will attend as liaison.
d) Tentative Future Plannlru! Commission Agenda
No action taken.
e) City Council Minutes of November 27. 1990
No action taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Rue suggested that a letter be sent to the City Council advising them of the poor sound
quality over the cable transmissions.
Comm. Rue asked for an update on the City's recycling activities, to which Mr. Schubach
responded. He also explained that the recycling program is overseen by the Building
Department.
MOTION by Comm. Aleks, seconded by Comm. Rue. to adjourn at 10:05 P.M . No objections: so
ordered. •
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record ·of the action
taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of January 2, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairman
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Michael Schubach, Secretary
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CITY COUNCll. REFERRAL -CON 90-16, 17, 18. AND 19/PDP 90-4, 5. 6 AND 7 -CONDfflONAL
USE PERMITS. VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAPS #22634-37, AND PRECISE
DEVEWPMENT PLANS FOR FOUR TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUMS AT 138-142, 144-148, 150-
154, AND 158-160 MANHATTAN AVENUE
Mr. Schubach stated that the City Council at their meeting of January 8, 1991, considered an
appeal of the four two-unit condos at 138-160 Manhattan Avenue, previously approved by the
Planning Commission.
The subject project was referred back to the Planning Commission for comments and
recommendations on the modifications in the floor plans and exterior appearance.
, The overall layout and site plan were not changed, and the changes reflect an effort by the
applicant to reduce the appearance of bulk and mass of the structures. The exterior was
designed to be more architecturally pleasing. There were some very minor changes to the
plans, and the railings will now be pipe railings.
Comm. Rue discussed the colors and asked whether any color changes would be subject to
planning director approval, to which Mr. Schubach explained that it is not necessary to obtain
approval for color changes.
Comm. Rue asked whether the actual materials to be used are the same as those shown on the
plans: to which Mr. Schubach explained that the applicant has been requested to use the same
materials as depicted on the plans.
Comm. Rue wanted to ensure that there are no major deviations from what is shown on the
plans. He felt it is important that different materials be used so that the building facades are
broken up. He said that the applicant need not use the exact materials as shown: however, they
should be substantially the same as depicted.
MOTION by Comm. Aleks, seconded by Comm. Rue , to approve the revised architecture, with
the additional recommendation that substantially the same materials as shown on the plans
be used.
AYE S :
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms . .AJeks, Marks, Rue
Comm. Peirce,Chmn.Ketz
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one appeared to address the Commission.
CUP 90-35 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ENCLOSE OUTDOOR DINING
AREA AT 49 & 53 PIER AVENUE, CASABLANCA RESTAURANT IN LORETO PLAZA
Mr. Schubach req~ested that this item be continued to the meeting of February 5, 1991, because
this agenda already contains several public hearings. The applicant was notified of staffs
desire for a continuance and will send out public notices for the meeting of February 5, 1991.
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Public Hearing opened at 7: 12 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Shirley Castle, Monterey Boulevard, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and opposed
approval of this request. She questioned how approval could be granted since the property in
question is public open space that belongs to the City.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce. seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve staff's recommendation to
continue this item to the meeting of February 5, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Comms. Marks
None
None
CUP 90-28 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PRESCHOOL WITH MORE THAN TWELVE
STUDENTS AND ADOPTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 44
HERMOSA AVENUE. BEACH SHORES PRE-SCHOOL
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 8, 1991, and recommended approval of the
requested conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed
resolution.
This project is located in the C-1 zone, with a general plan designation of neighborhood
commercial. The lot size is 4800 square feet. The building size is 1680 square feet, and the
outside play area is 2580 square feet. There are three parking spaces. The current use is as a
day nursery.
The existing conditional use permit for the day nursery was granted by the Planning
Commission on April 10, 1967, for a maximum of 20 children. The current owners took over
the operation of the nursery approximately nine years ago, and according to the owners it was
already licensed by the State for up to 34 children.
At their meeting of November 8, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration.
The owners of the preschool were notified of the need for a CUP amendment by the City's code
enforcement officer after a routine inspection where it was discovered that they were operating
with approximately 25 children, five more than the maximum number of children authorized
by the existing CUP.
The CUP amendment is necessary to authorize the continued operation of the day nursery for
more than 20 children. Staff has verified that the owners currently have a license from the
State Department of Social Services for up to 34 children.
Three parking spaces are located off the alley, and the applicant indicates that there are three
employees. The parents pick up and drop off the children from Hermosa Avenue. This parking
situation is obviously not adequate, nor is the use of the metered parking spaces for pick up and
drop off. Nonetheless, it has operated this way for several years without any major problems.
The original CUP was approved with six parking spaces. three in tandem behind three spaces.
Since that time, the depth of the parking area has been reduced to 18 feet to expand the outdoor
play area. Since the lost three spaces were in tandem, staff is not particularly concerned with
the removal of the spaces.
Although the parking and circulation for this business are not ideal, it has been in operation
since 1978 and staff does not anticipate that even at maximum capacity any significant
detriment to the surrounding areas would occur. However, the maximum number of children
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should not exceed 26, unless additional parking is provided since the number of employees
would increase, and the additional number of pick ups and deliveries. would be significant.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that the staff-recommended
number of 26 students was an arbitriuy number.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce, explained that the applicant had a
CUP allowing for 20 children when the applicant obtained a license from the State allowing for
34 children. He explained that the State does not always pay attention to the number of
children allowed by the CUP.
Public Hearing opened at 7:19 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Isabel Currie, operator of the business for nine years, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated
that she has worked closely with the City in regard to this business: (2) said that she was
allowed to operate with the three parking spaces, since the ratio is one teacher per twelve •
children: (3) said that when she took over the business, she was not aware that she needed to
apply for a new CUP: (4) said that she obtained permission from the City to move the fence in
order to obtain more square footage for the inside of the building: (5) said she did not realize
that the CUP specifies a maximum of 20 children.
Ms. Currie continued and: ( 1) said that there have been no problems associated with the school
since she has been operating it; (2) explained that she needs only three parking spaces for the
business: (3) said that there are no problems with the Department of Social Services related to
this school: (4) stated that she plans to have 34 children at the school: (5) explained that she
does not own the property, but she has the first right of refusal to purchase it.
Ms. Currie went on and: (1) stated that she has added no square footage to the building since she
has run the school: (2) explained, in response to questions from Comm. Aleks, that the school
is cleaned by a professional Janitor service who come in on the weekends and during the
evening after the school itself is closed.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Aleks, stated that the City has received no
complaints related to the operation of this business.
Public Hearing closed at 7:25 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Peirce asked whether it is acceptable to have a lessee apply for the CUP rather than the
owner.
Mr. Lee stated that there is not a problem with approval of this CUP, explaLn.i.11g that leases
typically give lessees the right to use property for a specific lawful purpose.
MOTieN by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-9, allowing for a maximum of 34 children.
Comm. Rue noted that there have been no problems with the business, and no complaints have
been received.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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CUP 90-19 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW SALES . OF MOTORCYCLES,
ACCESSORIES, AND REPAIR AT 638-640 PACIFIC COAST lilGHWAY, SOUTH BAY CYCLES
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 9, 1991, and recommended approval of the
requested amendment for motorcycle sales and parts sales, subject to conditions: however,
denial was recommended for the request to allow major repairs.
On October 23, 1990, the City Council adopted an ordinance to amend the zoning code to allow
motorcycle sales and motorcycle parts sales in the C-3 zone. subject to a conditional use
permit, consistent with the Planning Commission's recommendation. Previous to that
amendment, the code already allowed motorcycle repair subject to a CUP.
The effort to amend the zoning code to include motorcycle sales and parts sales was initiated by
the City Council after it was determined, in response to the request of South Bay Cycles to open
a business on P.C.H., that a separate category was necessary to distinguish motorcycle sales
and parts sales from automobile sales and part sales.
On August 21, 1990, the Planning Commission denied the request of South Bay Cycles for a
motorcycle repair business because of the proximity of residential uses and the non-mitigable
noise impacts that would result from the proposed use. The request, however, was appealed to
the City Council and it was approved at their meeting of September 25, 1990, subject to several
conditions.
The reasonthe repair business was approved for only "minor" repairs was because of the nature
of the applicant's request. The business was originally presented as a business of primarily
motorcycle sales and parts sales with minor repairs to allow installation of chrome parts and
other types of accessories sold at the location. It was not presented or considered as a repair
business for general repair of motorcycles.
Staff recommended approval of the sales and parts sales because the business would be subject
to the same strict conditions imposed by the Council on the "minor" repair aspect of the
proposal, and in staffs judgment, the repair aspect is the more intense part of the overall use of
the site.
Further, the sales of motorcycles and parts would be limited to inside the building, in the front
show room, and outside display would be strictly prohibited.
However, staff does not believe that the location or the size and the design of the building is
appropriate for full general repair. The repair of exhaust systems, the rebuilding of engines
and other moving parts requires greater storage areas, and results in a host of other problems
such as noise and fumes, the storage and use of petroleum-based products and other potentially
hazardous materials, and the potential for junk motorcycle parts to accumulate on the site.
Further, the applicant has not provided any explanation of the extent of repair activities
envisioned, nor has he discussed the potential volume of business. Withou~ such information,
allowing full general repair would open the door for many activities that potentially could not
be adequately controlled or monitored.
In regard to the proposed conditions, they are essentially the same as what the Council
imposed on the "minor" repair business. So far. according to the code enforcement officer, the
applicant has satisfactorily addressed conditions which have to do with signing the property
to inform patrons not to park motorcycles in the rear of the building, not to ride on nearby
residential streets, and not to rev up engines. However, the condition to place a chain or other
impediment, to be monitored by an attendant, to restrict motorcycles from using the rear
parking area has not been implemented.
Further, a noise study and traffic study were required by the Council, and the noise study was
submitted only today: therefore, staff has not had an opportunity to study the report. Staff
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suggested that a continuance might be desired if the applicant wishes ,to have the results of the
noise study taken into consideration on this request.
The City, otherwise, has not noticed any major problems with the business since it has opened,
and no complaints have been received from nearby residents.
Public Hearing opened at 7:33 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
William Campbell, 640 Pacific Coast Highway, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the
Commission and: (1) explained that a noise study was done using a very loud Harley-Davidson
when the readings were recorded: (2) stated that it is necessary for the business to be able to
conduct full repair services: (3) continued by discussing the noise report, explaining that very
loud tools were used, and the noise did not exceed the maximum requirements: (4) in response
to questions from Comm. Peirce, explained that the noise readings were taken with all doors
and windows closed.
Comm. Peirce pointed out that the noise study does not contain information related to the
maximum noise level when motorcycles leave or approach the business. He stated that the
, report contains only an average, not the maximum reading.
Mr. Campbell explained that he was informed that all readings are in conformance with the
City's requirements.
Comm. Aleks pointed out that the readings were taken indoors with all doors and windows
closed. He questioned whether actual repairs would be done inside with doors and windows
closed.
Mr. Campbell stated that doors are kept closed, explaining that the business has an indoor
water filtration system.
Comm. Rue recalled that when this applicant originally appeared before the Commission, it
was not his desire to do major repairs.
Mr. Campbell explained that customers are now coming in asking for repairs. The way the
CUP currently reads, even minor repairs cannot be done on any moving parts. He explained
that if he can do repairs, he intends to give the City a break on its motorcycle repairs. He
further noted that no problems or complaints have arisen since this business has opened.
Mr. Campbell, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that even though loud impact
tools were measured in the noise study, those types of tools are not normally used in Harley-
Davidson repair. He explained that other, quieter tools are actually used for the repair.
Comm. Rue noted, however, the the CUP runs with the business, and there could be problems if
the business is sold to someone else wl.o wants to do repairs using very loud equipment.
Mr. Campbell stated that he is well aware of the fact that he would be shut down immediately if
his business were not adhering to the requirements. He stressed that he is making an attempt
to comply with all City regulations. He also noted that he has installed more than 60 baffies on
motorcycles in the City: therefore. he has contributed to noise reduction in the City overall. He
said that much of the noise problem emanates from other businesses in the area. He asked
only for an opportunity to prove that he can succeed and comply with all requirements.
Grady Pheiffer, 2323 W. 229th Place, Torrance, spoke in support of the request. He explained
the types of tools used in the repair of motorcycles, stating that there will not be a noise
problem. He felt it is important to have this type of service in the City, and he said that this is a
very attractive business. He urged the Commission to give its support to this business.
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Raphael Bourdieu 710 Esplanade, Redondo Beach, spoke in support .of the request. He noted
that the applicant has kept his word to the City in complying with all requirements. He stated
that this is one of the best shops in the City, and the noise levels have not been excessive. He
urged the Commission to give the applicant an opportunity.
Public Hearing closed at 7:49 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, stated that since the noise study
was received late, he would prefer not to comment on the results until after he has had an
opportunity to study the report.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that the City does now have a
noise meter when people who can operate it.
Comm. Rue felt that the CUP contains enough conditions to have some real "teeth." He noted
that there have been no problems during the five months this business has been in operation;
therefore, he was inclined to support approval to see how the business does. He further noted
that there are many neighborhood watchdogs who will report any violations. He stated that he
could therefore support even the request for major repairs.
Comm. Aleks stated that he does not need a study to prove to him that the highway is already
very noisy. He felt that major repairs would exacerbate the noise problem. He felt that because
of the additional impacts to the surrounding area and neighborhoods, major repairs would not
be appropriate at this location and would be a negative factor for the area. He agreed that the
business is making an attempt to comply, and he sympathized with the applicant's plight;
however, he could not support this type of business in the area.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Chmn. Ketz, stated that the City does maintain a
record of noise complaints; however, he was not aware of how long the records are actually
maintained. In regard to this specific business, he was aware of no complaints; albeit, the
business is not now doing major repairs.
Mr. Schubach, for the benefit of the new commissioners, explained the process which is
undertaken by the City related to noise complaints.
Comm. Peirce stated that he was in support of motorcycle sales and parts sales; however, he
could not support approval of major repairs, based on the fact that there would be increased
noise.
Comm. Rue questioned whether it would be advisable to continue this matter so that the
planning director could study the noise report.
Comm. Peirce stated that only two numbers are missing from the report: the peak noise levels
and the actual noise level of a motorcycle leaving the business . He felt that both of those
numbers would be quite high: therefore, he did not feel a continuance is necessary. He stated
that his decision can be made without those numbers, noting that major repairs would greatly
increase the noise intensity in the area. He also noted that during the hot summer months, the
doors and windows will be opened for ventilation, and that will exacerbate the problems.
MOTION by Comm. Aleks, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution 91-10, to allow the sales of motorcycles and parts in conjunction with minor
motorcycle repair at 638 -640 Pacific Coast Highway, with the inclusion of the condition
prohibiting major motorcycle repair.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue
Chmn. Ketz
None
None
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Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-9 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTSIDE DINING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. MRS.
GARCIA'S
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 8, 1991, and recommended that this item be
continued to the meeting of February 5, 1991, and that it be re-advertised as a master
conditional use permit for all outside dining within the Hermosa Pavilion.
At their meeting of December 6, 1990, the staff environmental review committee recommended
an environmental negative declaration and further recommended that the outside dining for
Mrs. Garcia's be clearly separated from other outside dining areas. The committee also
recommended that the application be processed as an amendment to Mrs. Garcia's CUP to
allow outside dining rather than pursuing a master CUP.
Although this was advertised as an amendment to the Mrs. Garcia's CUP pursuant to the staff
environmental review committee, staff now believes that the master CUP concept to control all
outside dining is more appropriate.
Staff felt that the master CUP would be beneficial as it would address the distinct issues
associated with outside use, such as late night noise and passing of alcohol outside the
designated areas. Also, the total square footage of all outdoor areas, regardless of the
operators, is limited due to the approved parking plan for the whole center, and the current
management has rearranged where the outside dining is to be located. Furthermore, one of the
proposed outside areas is a common divisible area for potentially more than one restaurant
operator.
Since this item was only advertised as an amendment, it is necessary to continue the request to
properly advertise it as a master conditional use permit.
Public Hearing opened at 8:03 P.M.by Chmn. Ketz.
Dee Harris, 1605 Pacific Coast Highway, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission
and: (1) described the outdoor dining areas, stating that there are three locations, two of which
are for two specific restaurants and which are not accessible to others: the other outdoor dining
area is for other restaurants' patrons: (2) stated that the outdoor dining areas will be clearly
demarcated as to which area is for which restaurant: (3) explained that there is a security firm
at the location: (4) stated that there is ample parking: (5) stated that ·walls will be constructed to
separate the dining areas from passersby: (6) stated, in response to a question from Chmn. Ketz,
that if staff feels it necessary to continue this matter, she has no objection.
Comm. Rue stated that he would like to see plans of the area before making a final decision on
this request.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to approve staffs recommendation to
continue this item to the meeting of February 5, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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CUP 90-31 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. PICASSO'S PIZZA
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 8, 1991, and recommended approval of the
requested conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed
resolution.
This project is located in S.PA. 8, with a general plan designation of commercial corridor. The
size of the leased space is 2773 square feet inside. The current use is as a restaurant under
construction.
The proposed restaurant is located within the Hermosa Pavilion on the second level on the east
end of the building facing P.C.H. The parking requirements for the entire Pavilion are subject
to a parking plan. This space was originally identified for restaurant purposes on the approved
parking plan.
At their meeting of December 6, 1990, the staff environmental review committee recommended
, an environmental negative declaration.
The requested CUP would authorize the sale of beer and wine for consumption on the premises,
subject to the standard conditions of the zoning ordinance. The applicant will also be required
to apply to the State Alcoholic Beverage Control office for a license.
The plans also show a small outdoor balcony area to be used for outside dining. Although this
area was not identified for dining on the original parking plan for the Pavilion, the Pavilion
management is willing to trade away a portion of the outside dining area on the northwest
portion of the building to allow this area to be used. The issue of the outside dining for the
entire Pavilion, including this balcony, will be addressed in a master CUP for the outside
dining.
The floor plan and seating plan show that there will be seating for approximately 64 people
indoors and up to an additional 24 outdoors. A small bar area with four bar stools is also
shown.
Staff has no concerns related to the existing appearance or operation of the business that
would necessitate any further conditions than the standard conditions required for this type of
CUP. Those conditions would include the restriction that at least 65 percent of the gross sales
must be from prepared foods, and a maximum of 35 percent from beer and wine sales.
The business is contained inside the existing mall, and the applicant has indicated that the
hours would be from 10:00 AM. to 1:00 AM. Staff is also recommending a condition to limit
the operation to these requested hours.
Staff recommended approval of the request because this area, unlike the downtown area, is not
considered to be heavily impacted by a saturation of alcohol establishments, and adequate
parking is available. Also, the primary function of the business will be as a restaurant, which
fits in with the original designation for this floor within the Pavilion. Additionally, the mall
maintains its own security patrol during its operating hours, meaning that additional police
patrol should not be necessary.
Chmn. Ketz, noting that Comm. Aleks lives within 300 feet of the proposed project site, stated
that he would abstain from discussion and voting on this item.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, explained that there is adequate
parking at this facility.
Public Hearing opened at 8:10 P .M. by Chmn. Ketz.
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Dee Harris, 1605 Pacific Coast Highway, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission
and: ( 1) stated that the staff report is very clear; (2) described the location of the proposed
restaurant: (3) stated that there will not be a full bar, noting that only four bar stools are
proposed to a ccommodate people waiting fo r a table; (4) explained, in response to ques tions
from Comm. Rue, that the balcony is adjacent to P.C.H , and s he is not allowed to cover it in any
way, per the requirements of the conditional use permit
Public Hearing closed at 8 : 13 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
MOTION by Chmn. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Peirce. to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91 -6, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce , Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
Comm. Aleks
None
CUP 90-33/PARK 90-8 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN FOR VIDEO GAME
ARCADE AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1605
PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. PAVILION ARCADE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 7, 1991, and recommended approval of the
requested CUP, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in S .P A. 8, with a general plan designation of commercial corridor. The
leased space size is 1070 square feet. The space is currently vacant.
The proposed game arcade is located within the Hermosa Pavilion on the first level, the same
level as a beauty salon, a beauty and hair products retail store. and retail stores for compact
discs and athletic shoes. The parking requirements for the entire Pavilion are subject to a
parking plan. This space was originally identified for retail use.
At their meeting of December 6, 1990, the staff environmental review committee recommended
an environmental negative declaration and further recommended that conditions be included
to require a maximum occupancy sign, to prohibit school children during school hours, to
restrict loitering, to enforce a dress code to restrict gang attire, to provide a bike rack in a
convenient location, and to install sound proofing.
The requested CUP would allow the operation of a video game arcade at the subject location.
Pursuant to the zoning ordinance. a "game arcade" with five or more machines is permitted
only with the benefit of a CUP. This would be the second "game arcade" with five or more
machines in the City; the other is located at 344 Pacific Coast Highw::y and operates under a
CUP granted in October of 1982.
A parking plan is required because the code requires one parking space for every 75 square feet
of "recreation or amusement establishment." The subject location was permitted for retail,
which carries a parking requirement of one space per 250 square feet. As such, the proposed
use creates a parking deficiency. The parking plan provisions, however, allow the
Commission to permit less than required parking based on the "unique features of a proposed
use." Staff felt that for the proposed arcade, given its orientation to youths who do not drive, a
finding can be made that it would not generate a parking demand any greater than retail.
In regard to the bike rack location. the Pavilion management recently has decided to provide
the bike rack that is required as part of the overall parking plan on the same level as this
arcade near the entrance from level 6 of the parking structure.
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Other concerns associated with a business of this type relate to the proper supervision of the
business to prevent loitering, noise, overcrowding, and/ or boisterous activity. For example,
the CUP for 344 P.C.H. contains several conditions to ensure that appropriate supervision is in
place. The proposed location within the Pavilion has the advantage of being located within a
larger facility with adequate lighting and security personnel.
In anticipation of these concerns, the applicant has indicated that a uniformed employee will
be on the premises and that strict rules will be enforced to prohibit smoking, bringing in food
or drink, loitering, loud and abusive language, and horseplay. Further, a dress code would be
enforced, and a school time policy of not allowing unaccompanied school age children.
The proposed hours of operation during the off season are from 10:00 AM. until 10:00 P.M. on
weekdays and from 10:00 AM. until midnight on Fridays, Saturdays, and holidays. Also
proposed are on season hours to be open until midnight daily and until 1:00 AM. on weekends.
Staff is recommending a condition that year round hours limitations be imposed. pursuant to
the proposed off season hours.
Also, the plans depict the use of the existing fluorescent lighting fixtures which appear to
provide adequate lighting.
Staff recommended conditions similar to the other game arcade, to require uniformed adult
supervision. compliance with the noise ordinance, police security if complaints arise, and to
prohibit school age children during school hours. and is additionally recommending
conditions to have a dress code regarding gang attire, a requirement that the adult supervisor
be at least 21 years old, and that the front door be kept closed to minimize the noise impact into
the hallway.
Chmn. Ketz, noting that Comm. Aleks lives within 300 feet of the proposed project site, stated
that he would abstain from discussion and voting on this item.
Public Hearing opened at 8:18 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Dee Harris, 1605 Pacific Coast Highway, Hermosa Beach. applicant. addressed the Commission
and: (1) stated that all of the requirements have been outlined to the operator, who agrees to
comply; (2) stated that the operator has agreed to hire additional security during peak hours; (3)
stated that carpeting will be installed to mitigate the noise: (4) explained that a uniformed
person will be on guard; (5) stated that the other arcade has had no problems with the police; (6)
stated the "No Loitering" signs will be posted.
Ms. Harris continued and: (1) passed out diagrams depicting the project site and continued by
discussing the location of the arcade; (2) explained that a bike rack will be installed on level 6,
so that kids will be more inclined to use it; (3) described how the patrons will get to the bike
rack and stated that the rack will be very visible; (4) commented that there will also be a
walkway to and from the bike rack.
Comm. Rue noted concern over the dim lighting in the area and the possibility that teens could
loiter and drink or use drugs. He also noted concern over the area being kept clean.
Ms. Harris went on and: (1) responded to comments by Comm. Rue related to the lighting, and
stated that she agrees additional lighting could be installed; (2) stated that she personally
checks the lights, and they all work; (3) stated that she would not oppose a condition requiring
extra lighting; (4) explained the security system in place and described how the guards make
their rounds of the Pavilion; (5) stated that the owner is aware of the acoustical requirements;
(6) explained that the operator of this business has another extremely successful arcade in
Redondo Beach, and there have been no problems at that location.
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Comm. Peirce suggested that a sign be posted indicating "No Bike Riding" near the entrance of
the arcade near the stairs or elevator, to which Ms. Harris agreed and stated that she will post
several signs.
Comm. Rue asked questions about the security system, to which Ms. Harris responded by giving
details about the operation of the system and how the guards patrol the area.
Comm. Rue asked how the guards would deal with unruly teenagers, to which Ms. Harris
explained that the security guards would ask the off enders to leave the premises. If they did not
leave, the police would then be called.
Comm. Rue asked whether the security guards are able to contact someone for help in the event
trouble arises, to which Ms. Harris explained that telephones are located throughout the area.
Each officer also carries a beeper. She noted, however, that there have been no gang problems
to her knowledge. She said that the biggest problem involves kids throwing the flower pots off
the railings.
Comm. Rue expressed concerns over the safety at this location, to which Ms. Harris responded
that the security force is outstanding at this location.
Public Hearing closed at 8:30 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Rue noted that Ms. Harris has agreed to install additional lighting. He also noted
concern over the safety of the security guards, stating that they should be able to reach someone
in the event of an emergency.
Chmn. Ketz agreed that safety is an important factor. She noted that Condition No. 7 addresses
the issue of lighting.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-7, with the following modifications: (1) that Condition No. 7 be modified to
include wording requiring that additional lighting be installed in the downstairs retail arcade;
(2) that a "No Bicycle Riding" sign shall be posted at the entrance to the arcade at the parking
level and at the east P .C.H. side; (3) that the security personnel have a means of
communicating, preferably by radio or a walkie-talkie system, with other security guards and
the office in the event of an emergency.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Rue related to the future need for
additional bike racks, explained that the CUP contains a provision that would allow for the
requirement of additional bike racks in the event they become necessary.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
Comm. Aleks
None
CUP 90-29 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL.
ENTERTAINMENT. AND DANCING. AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 30 PIER AVENUE, THE LIGHTHOUSE CAFE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 10, 1991, and recommended approval of the
proposed conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in the C-2 zone, with a general plan designation of general commercial.
The lease space size is 2639 square feet. The current use is as an existing restaurant/bar with
live entertainment.
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The location is on the south side of Pier Avenue, five properties east of The Strand. Parking is
either metered street parking or off-street City parking lots.
At their meeting of November 21, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration.
The requested CUP would authorize the continued on-sale of alcohol, the continued use of the
restaurant. the live entertainment permit, and dancing.
Staff has several concerns related to the existing appearance and operation of the business that
would necessitate further conditions than the standard conditions required for this type of
CUP. Those conditions would include the restriction that at least 50 percent of the gross sales
must be from prepared foods, a maximum of 50 percent from the sale of all alcoholic beverages.
Additionally, this location has a long history of police and fire violations relating to crowd
control and noise pollution.
The exterior of the location, although a brick facade. could stand repainting/sanding. The
famous "Lighthouse" sign over the business is both faded and extremely rusty, possibly even
dangerous to pedestrians below, as one of the braces is missing. Inside, the location could use
air conditioning so that all doors could be closed during performances. Double front doors
could be installed to help shield sound. and double paned windows should be mandatory for
noise pollution rather than the present single pane windows. Finally, some sort of sound
absorbing materials such as that used at the End Zone nearby should be utilized to absorb the
sound of live presentations.
The location is one of three similar types of establishments, all vying for customers in a very
crowded area in one small block less than 1000 feet long. The business ordinarily is open
during the summer months from 4:00 P.M. until 1:30 A.M. Maximum occupancy occurs on
most evenings between 8:30 P.M. and 1:30 AM. The manager of the location has specified the
following hours of operation: 8:00 P.M. to 1:30 A.M. Monday through Thursday: 6:00 P.M. to
2:00 A.M. on Friday: and 8:00 A.M. to 2:00 A.M. on Saturday and Sunday.
In an attempt to keep conformity in the area, it is staffs opinion that the Lighthouse hours
should be substantially the same as those imposed on the End Zone, its nearest similar
competitor. The End Zone's hours are: 9:00 A.M. to 2:00 A.M. weekly. Live entertainment is
permitted from 7:00 P.M. until 1:30 AM . Thursday through Sunday and on Federal and State
holidays, Cinco de Mayo, and St. Patrick's Day.
Staff recommended approval of the request with restrictions regarding hours of operation:
since breakfast is served, those hours shall be 8:00 A.M. until 1 :30 A.M. Allowing the
Lighthouse to open earlier, no great impact should be realized by the one hour difference. Since
live entertainment is the usual cause for noise pollution, it is recommended that the
Lighthouse entertainment hours be restricted to essentially the same hours as the End Zone,
Thursday through Sunday, 7:00 P.M. to 1:30AM.
Double paned windows and doors would seem to be an absolute necessity to bring the
Lighthouse in line with the improvements that the End Zone has made to control noise
• pollution. Additionally, based on the statements of the Police Department, it would seem that
these changes are absolutely necessary. Since the downtown area is so heavily impacted, these
additional requirements and restrictions are believed to be reasonable by staff.
Public Hearing opened at 8:38 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Paul Hennessey, applicant, addressed the Commission and: (1) referred to staffs
recommendation that the brick facade be repainted or sanded, and stated that he did not know
what that meant, to which Mr. Schubach explained that that was merely a suggestion, not a
requirement: (2) asked why the Lighthouse was being compared to the End Zone, to which Mr.
Schubach replied that the businesses are similar: (3) stated that the hours of the two businesses
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are different ; (4) discussed the entertainment at the Lighthouse, stating that the hours have
been unrestricted for 40 years, and it would not be possible to _ continue oper ation if a
limitation of hours is imposed; (5) continued by discussing the hours currently in use at the
business, stressing that this is an entertainment club .
Mr. Hennessey went on and: (1) disagreed with Comm. Rue , by stating that he does not feel there
is a noise problem at this business; (2) stated that the noise is addressed in a number of the
other conditions; (3) stated that he has never heard any complaints related to this business,
other than one about the noise from the back door; (4) stated that the back door n ow has a
doorman, and people can exit from that door; however, people are asked to enter through the
front door; (5) explained that there are no police records of citizen complaints related to the
noise.
Mr. Hennessey continued and: (1) discussed Condition No. 4b and stated that air conditioning
is neither necessary nor feasible at this location, noting that the building is not hot and there
is adequate ventilation; (2) in response to questions from Comm. Marks, discussed his crowd
control methods; (3) discussed Condition No. 4c and stated that it would not be feasible to
install a double door in the front alcove area or to install double paned windows to replace all
r, single glassed area, and such an arrangement would not be possible; (4) discussed Condition No.
4d and stated that there is no point in providing an acoustical back-drop behind the stage to
absorb sound from the bands, due to the configuration of the stage and the fact that it does not
help reduce noise in any event.
Mr. Hennessey continued and: (1) responded to questions from Comm. Marks related to the
percentages of food sales to alcohol sales, and he stated that the numbers vaxy depending on the
season, but the alcohol sales are usually about 85 percent of the total sales; (2) noted that the
Mermaid does not have percentage restrictions imposed on their operation.
Mr. Hennessey went on and: (1) discussed Condition No. 5 requiring that screens shall be
installed on all exterior windows, and he stated that there are no operable windows at the
ground level; (2) asked for clarification on Condition No. 10a which requires that the
"dilapidated roof sign shall be removed"; (3) stated that the sign is part of a historical building,
and he questioned what staff wants to have done to the sign; (4) discussed Condition No. 14a
and explained that they do not want to have the rear used for entrance; (5) discussed Condition
No. 15 and stated that he is not aware of any City loitering ordinance, but he noted that he
would be happy to enforce any laws related to loitering.
Mr. Hennessey noted that the Lighthouse is world famous, and he displayed a Japanese tour
booklet with a photograph of the establishment.
Mr. Hennessey continued and: (1) r eferred to Condition No . 16 and stated that he is not
familiar with the EASY program, however, he is willing to comply, but he noted that he already
takes great steps to ensure that no liquor is sold to minors; (2) referred to Condition No. 19
related to the hours of food service operation, and he stated that he does not want to be bound to
certain specific hours for food service , noting that food is available at all times when they are
open: (3) noted that the hours specified in Condition No. 19 are incorrect; (4) explained that
breakfast is served in the summer from 8:00 AM . on; (5) noted that music is available during
the breakfast hours .
Comm. Peirce noted that the Commission had not been provided with any interior plans of the
Lighthouse. He asked how many seats are allowed, to which Mr. Schubach explained that the
Fire Department does have occupancy limits.
Mr. Hennessey stated that when he remodeled several years ago, he was allowed to have over
240 people . However, a year and a half ago, the number was adjusted to approximately 140
people.
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Mr. Schubach stated that the staff environmental review committee minutes indicate that the
allowed occupancy is 117 .
Comm. Peirce stated that there appears to be confusion over the allowed occupancy number. He
also wanted to see an interior layout of the business.
Mr. Lee stated that the minutes of the staff environmental review committee minutes specify a
maximum of 117 occupants. He noted that the Fire Department oversees the occupancy limits.
Comm. Peirce asked Mr. Hennessey's opinion about the letter dated January 10, 1991,
submitted by the Police Department related to the myriad problems at the Lighthouse, to which
Mr. Hennessey replied that he had not seen a copy of the letter.
Mr. Hennessey, in response to questions from Comm . Peirce related to Condition No. 4c, stated
that he does not feel it is physically possible to install a double door in the front alcove due to
the configuration of the area. He understood staffs concerns related to noise emanating from
the business: however, he noted that a number of other conditions relate to the noise . He stated
that it is possible that a sound engineer would find that staff's recommendations are not
appropriate.
Comm. Rue asked if Mr. Hennessey would prefer to have a sound consultant come in to make
findings before conditions are imposed on the CUP, to which Mr. Hennessey replied that that
would seem to make the most sense.
Pete Mangurian, 52 11th Street. Hermosa Beach. addressed the Commission and: (1) stated that
he has owned his property for twenty years, and the noise from the Lighthouse has never
stopped: (2) said that the Police Department has not been able to control the noise: (3) said that
the noise comes through the windows and travels quite a distance: (4) stated that there is an
open transom, and the noise comes through it; (5) noted that he has complained to the police on
numerous occasions, and nothing is ever done: (6) commented that even though rules are
passed, they are not enforced: (7) stated that the bars have an adverse impact on the downtown
area: (8) said that the noise is much worse when the rear door is open: however, even if it is
closed, the noise is unbearable.
Mr. Hennessey again addressed the Commission and: ( 1) stated that much of the noise that is
attributed to the Lighthouse is, in fact, from other sources: (2) stated that he has several letters
from the enforcement officer stating that the Lighthouse is in compliance: however, he did not
bring the letters to the meeting, since he was not aware that noise is a problem: (3) thought that
they were in compliance since the police had not informed him othexwise: (4) noted that noise
meter readings have been taken at the Lighthouse: (5) described the interior configuration of
the business, stating that the noise must travel a great distance before it goes outside: (6) in
response to questions from Comm. Peirce related to the comments in the letter from the police ,
stated that he was unaware of the concerns of the police, since he had received letters stating
that he was in compliance.
Mr. Mangurian again addressed the Commission and stated that much of the noise comes from
radios: however, a great deal of the noise emanates from the bars.
Public Hearing closed at 9: 16 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Peirce stated that the letter from the police seems to be incomplete, noting that all the
documentation has not been provided to the Commission. He noted that the applicant is
unaware of the noise problems, and he felt it would be beneficial to have written
documentation on the issue.
Mr. Schubach stated that this item could be continued, and he would request written
documentation related to the noise complaints.
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Comm. Rue favored a continuance so that the applicant could retain a noise consultant. He felt
that the applicant should be given a chance to study ways to reduce the noise.
Comm. Peirce pointed out, however, that the applicant does not acknowledge there is a noise
problem. He stated tha t the n oise comes right out the front of the business. He felt that if
double paned windows and doors are not installed , the noise will not be reduced.
Comm. Aleks agreed that the Lighthouse is noisy. He wanted to see the business continue,
though, noting that it is a local institution.
Comm. Marks felt it would be beneficial for the applicant to retain an acoustical engineer so
that methods of noise containment and reduction can be addressed t o satisfy the requirements
of the City.
Comm. Aleks favored retention an acoustical engineer to be selected by the City and paid for by
the applicant.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, explained that the noise
requirements are clearly outlined in the code.
Mr. Hennessey stated that he would retain a noise consultant: however, he would prefer to hire
someone himself, with the City having the right to reject the choice, if so desired. Mr.
Schubach agreed that such a method would be easier than going through the City process.
Mr. Hennessey stated that he would present the choice to the City before the study is done so
that the City can concur with the choice of who will be hired.
Comm. Rue suggested that the applicant meet with staff prior to this item being heard again
before the Commission. In this way, the applicant would be clear as to what is required.
Mr. Hennessey stressed that this business cannot operate with limitations on the hours of
operation. He continued by explaining, in response to questions from Comm. Aleks, that
during the breakfast hours, appropriate music is played, not loud big band music. He explained
that this is the oldest established club in the area.
Mr. Hennessey stated that he does not want to go through the expense of having a sound study
done, only to come back and have limitations placed on his hours of operation. He said that
Condition No. 1 is the most restrictive of all the conditions.
Comm. Aleks stated that he would have no opposition to unrestricted hours of operation, so
lo n g as no disruptive noise is emanating from the busi11ess. Cmr..m. Peirce concurred, as did
Chmn. Ketz.
Cmnm. Rue discussed the percentages related to the sale of food versus alcohol. He felt that
such a condition is not necessary at this business, noting that the Mermaid does not have such
a requirement. He felt that there is good supexvision at the Lighthouse: therefore , such a
condition is not necessary.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Aleks related to the percentages, gave
background history on why such a condition came into being.
Comm. Peirce explained that the condition was imposed in an attempt to prevent the
proliferation of bars: however, he did not feel it is necessary in this case.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to continue this item to the meeting of
April 16, 1991, for the purpose of allowing the applicant time to retain an acoustical
consultant: and for the purpose of the applicant meeting with staff regarding the conditions
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prior to appearing again before the Commission; further, to recommend that the sound
engineer work closely with the City.
AYES :
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Recess taken from 9:33 P.M. until 9:41 P.M.
STAFF ITEMS
a) Interpretation of Condition No . 2A of the Conditional Use Permit for 1018 Hermosa
Avenue, Comedy and M3aic Club
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 10, 1991, and requested the Planning
Commission to interpret Condition No. 2A of the CUP for the Hermosa Beach Comedy and
Magic Club.
The subject condition reads: "Entertainment shall be permitted only as an ancillary use to the
restaurant use with performances limited to stand-up comedy or magic acts, acoustic music, or
entertainment dancing."
Webster's defines "acoustic" as "of, relating to, or being a musical instrument whose sound is
not electronically modified."
Mr. Lacey, the applicant, is requesting an interpretation because of his concern that a strict
reading of "acoustic music" would prohibit amplified music.
The subject condition reads precisely as motioned by Comm. Rue at the meeting of August 7,
1990. The condition was a modification of the staff-recommended condition which
specifically stated "non-amplified acoustic music." As such, it appears that the Planning
Commission motion intentionally deleted the words "non-amplified." However, it is not clear
if the intent was to exclude other types of amplified music such as electric guitars or electronic
keyboards.
Comm. Rue recalled that the Commission had no objection to amplification of some
instruments. He noted that. by their very nature, some instruments are amplified.
Chmn. Ketz did not feel that the Commission made a distinction between "amplified" and
"acoustic." She felt that the Commission's intent was to allow amplified music.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to add wording to the condition specifying
that electric guitars and electronic keyboards shall be allowed. No objections; so ordered.
Mike Lacey, 1018 Hermosa Avenue, applicant, addressed the Commission and: (1) recalled the
discussions which took place on this matter previously, and stated that it would be appropriate
for the condition to state that "amplified entertainment" shall be allowed; (2) recalled that he
and the Commission discussed the issue of entertainment dancing as well as customer dancing,
but he noted that the condition was not included, apparently through an oversight; (3)
explained that the minutes of the next Planning Commission meeting contain a correction to
the resolution; however, the correction (to allow customer dancing) was not incorporated.
Comm. Rue recalled that Mr. Lacey's comments are correct, that it was the intention of the
Commission to allow both entertainment dancing and customer dancing. Chmn. Ketz
concurred. •
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Mr. Lacey discussed the alcohol versus food sale percentages. He stated that a full menu is
offered to customers, and food is a large part of the business. He stated that the wording in the
CUP is not very clear related to the percentages. He noted concern over compliance with this
condition.
Mr. Lee halted Mr. Lacey's comments related to the percentages, noting that this matter was
advertised only as an interpretation. If the applicant desires to discuss the percentages, the
matter would need to be renoticed and opened for public hearing.
Mr. Lacey explained that he is not requesting an amendment related to the condition: rather,
the resolution was returned to him with percentages differing from what he understood were
imposed on this business.
Mr. Schubach stated that it should be 65 percent food sales and 35 percent alcohol. He stated
that staff would check into the matter.
Mr. Lacey stated that he does not want to change anything: he merely wants a clarification of
the condition related to the percentages.
Mr. Schubach explained that with the amortization process, the newest conditions in place are
imposed in the conditional use permits. -
Mr. Schubach stated that he would look into the matter of the percentages and bring it back to
the Commission as a staff item.
b) Tentative Future Plannin2 Commission J\2enda
No action taken.
c) City Council Minutes of December 11, 1990
No action taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Rue asked about the study regarding parking on alleys. to which Mr. Schubach replied
that several staff members have been out ill , but the study will soon begin.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to adjourn at 10:02 P.M. No objections: so
ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action
taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of January 15, 1991. ,......., ~ . (_/-!!5/~l--~ ~ ~
Christine Ketz, Chairman Michael Schubach;·Secretary
Date
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one appeared to address the Commission.
CON 90-34 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OFF-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL AT AN
EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY LICENSED BY A.B.C. AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 101 HERMOSA AVENUE. MICKEY'S LIQUOR
AND DELI
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 17, 1991, and recommended approval of the
requested conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed
resolution.
This project is located in the C-1 zone, with a general plan designation of general commercial.
The lot size is 2600 square feet; building size is 24 70 square feet. The current use is as a
preexisting liquor store, market, and delicatessen. There are no parking spaces.
Mickey's Deli is located on the west side of Hermosa Avenue at 1st Street. It is a two-story
building with a second floor area of about 896 square feet which is used for storage. The
deli/liquor store is open from 7:00 AM. until 11 :00 P .M. weekdays, with extended hours to 2:00
AM. on Friday and Saturday nights only.
Mickey's Deli is one of the remaining existing businesses selling alcoholic beverages which has
not obtained a conditional use permit, subject to the alcohol amortization ordinance.
At their meeting of November 6, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration and recommended that the Planning
Commission require the applicant/ owner to place the trash dumpster inside an enclosure and
to alleviate the parking on the public right-of-way on the south side of the building.
The police department has requested that Mickey's participate in the EASY program and also
that they package single containers of alcoholic beverages in clear plastic bags so that the
contents are easily visible.
The Public Works Department has requested that Mickey's employees cease parking on the
public right-of-way on the south side of the building where illegal public phones have been
installed; and that on the east side, the paper racks, if on public property, be removed.
The requested CUP would authorize continued general alcohol sales at this location.
Staffs concerns relative to this location are minor in nature. The proposed use of a liquor
store/deli seems in tune with the neighborhood usage, as it has operated there for more than
twenty-five years .
Since this is an existing business with no history of police problems according to the patrol
division, staff believes that the sale of alcohol should be allowed to continue, subject to the
proposed conditions which are limited to standard conditions of the zoning ordinance and
conditions relating to trash and parking.
It appears that the trash enclosure could be located along the west wall of the building on Beach
Drive right at the property line; a survey may be necessary to determine the property line.
Regarding the parking on public property and telephones on pubiic property, this problem is
not limited only to this site. As such, these issues are being addressed by the Public Works
Department through staff reports to the City Council and Planning Commission, with the
ultimate policy and enforcement procedure yet to be determined. • •
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Public Hearing opened at 7:08 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mike Mance, 29256 Palos Verdes Drive East, Rancho Palos Verdes, applicant, addressed the
Commission and stated that he had read the conditions and agrees to comply with them.
Comm. Marks questioned whether it would be appropriate to impose a condition specifying a
date by which all conditions should be in compliance.
Mr. Schubach explained that such a condition could be added; however, he had no concerns
over this business or the applicant's intention to comply with all conditions.
Public Hearing closed at 7: 10 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
MOTION by Chmn. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C . 91-11, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Aleks, Rue
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-35 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ENCLOSE OUTDOOR DINING
AREA AT 49 AND 53 PIER AVENUE, CASABLANCA RESTAURANT IN LORETO PLAZA
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 24, 1991, and recommended approval of the
request, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
The approximate size of the existing restaurant is 2500 square feet inside and 380 square feet
outside. The restaurant is currently operating with a Type 41 alcohol license, which allows for
beer and wine in an eating establishment. •
On September 4, 1990, the owners of Loreto Plaza requested that the City consider a
lease/license agreement to enclose the aerial walkway /bridge which crosses City property for
additional seating space for the Casablanca Restaurant within Loreto Plaza.
The walkway area has already been approved for outside dining pursuant to a CUP granted on
January 10, 1977.
The Planning Commission also approved an amendment to the CUP in 1978 to allow service of
general alcohol; however, the business has never obtained a full service alcohol license from
the State Alcoholic Beverage Control. Thus, the CUP has not been executed and is now null and
void.
The recent request was forwarded to the Council for consideration, and the Council on October
23, 1990, directed that the request be processed as a CUP amendment prior to taking action on
the lease agreement.
Two aerial walkways connect the second floors of the western and eastern portions of Loreto
Plaza. The northerly walkway connects Casablanca's banquet facilities and restrooms with
the main portion of the restaurant. The walkway is currently partially enclosed with windows
on the north and a canvas awning on top. The applicant would like to completely enclose this
area with a predominantly glass enclosure. The submitted plans also show the use of the entire
area for tables.
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The CUP granted in 1977 contains a condition that at least a five-foot walkway be provided )
along the walkway. This walkway is clearly necessary so that customers and employees can
conveniently travel to the banquet room and restroom from the main portion of the restaurant
and back. Otherwise, it would be necessary to use the southerly aerial walkway. As such, staff
felt that the use of this enclosed area for seating should only be permitted if an adequate
walkway is maintained. Staff therefore recommended a condition that a five-foot aisle be
clearly marked to perpetually maintain access. The applicant has indicated that this is not a
problem and stated that the plans incorrectly show tables filling the whole space and blocking
the access.
Otherwise, staff had no further concerns and recommended only that the CUP conditions be
upgraded to include all currently applicable standard conditions for restaurants with beer and
wine service and to include conditions that require the City to be insured from any liability
because of the use of City property for outside dining purposes. These types of conditions
requiring insurance are typical of the CUPs previously granted for other outside dining a r eas
on City property. •
Obtaining the CUP amendment is only the first step prior to approval for outside dining. Since
the walkway is located on City property, approval is also necessary from the City Council for
the appropriate lease agreement for use of City property.
Public Hearing opened at 7: 15 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Jerry Newton, 2041 Circle Drive. Hermosa Beach, applicant. addressed the Commission and:
(1) explained that he does not propose to enclose a bridge that is owned by the City; (2) said that.
pursuant to a written agreement in 1975, the property owner was given the right to construct
the bridge between the two adjoining buildings; (3) continued by explaining that the bridgeways
themselves are not owned by the City, and the proposal is to enclose a bridge which is privately
owned but which is in City airspace; (4) continued by discussing the configuration of the
building and walkway.
Mr. Newton continued and: (1) explained that he is not proposing to change any use of the
walkway; (2) noted that the restaurant has been in existence since 1976, and the bridge is
already three-quarters enclosed; (3) stated that he is now proposing to completely enclose the
area: (4) said that he has no problems with the staff-imposed conditions. other than Condition
No. 2 pertaining to hours of operation: (5) explained that he would someday like to have a
breakfast service; therefore, he asked for approval to open at 6:30 A.M. in order to
accommodate breakfast service; (6) stated that he did not feel a breakfast service will have a
negative impact on the surrounding area. noting that the restaurant is quite a distance from
any residential areas.
Mr. Newton, in response to questions from Comm; Marks, stated that no additional parking is
proposed, explaining that patrons use the parking lot behind the plaza.
Shirley Castle. Monterey. Hermosa Beach. addressed the Commission and opposed approval of
the request, stating that the proposed use would take away from the public open space area. She
stressed that the bridge is covering an area which should be returned to a public parklet. She
also opposed approval because there is not adequate parking for the site. She urged denial of
the project based on the negative impacts it will create.
Public Hearing closed at 7:23 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Schubach, in response to question from Comm. Peirce, explained that this business is in
the Vehicle Parking District. and the parking area behind the building is intended to provide
parking for the surrounding businesses. He stated that this use has already been approved; the
request is now to enclose the area. He explained that no additional square footage is being
proposed.
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Comm. Marks asked questions related to why this business does not need to provide additional
parking, to which Mr. Schubach explained that since the proposal does not increase square
footage, additional parking is not required.
Comm. Marks noted concern that the enclosed dining area might draw more customers,
thereby creating an impact because of the increased usage. He therefore questioned whether
additional parking should be required.
Mr. Lee explained that the use of the balcony area has already been approved for outdoor
dining. Enclosure of the area will not increase the square footage: therefore, there is no legal
requirement to require additional parking.
Comm. Marks felt that the enclosure would allow for year-round use even in bad weather, as
opposed to partial use, such as during the summer months only.
Mr. Schubach explained that in Southern California, w e ather conditions are not normally
taken into account, since heaters can be installed in uncovered patio areas.
Mr. Schubach stressed, in response to Comm. Marks' concerns, that no increased square
footage would be allowed unless all required parking is provided.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91 -15, with one modification: that Condition No. 2 be amended to read: 'The
hours of operation shall be limited to between 6:30 AM. and 1:00 AM. daily."
AYES :
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Rue, Aleks
Chmn. Ketz noted that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-31 --MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR OUTSIDE DINING
AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY. HERMOSA PAVILION (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF JANUARY 15.
1991)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 17, 1991, and recommended approval of the
request, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution. •
At their meeting of January 15, 1991, the Planning Commission continued this request for
advertisement as a master CUP for all outside dining at the Pavilion.
The parking plan which governs the use of the Pavilion originally allowed up to 19,450 square
feet of restaurant space including outside dining. Staff has calculated that, based on the
approved plans and the agreement to reduce outside dining by 1000 square feet, the final
amount of outside dining is approximately 3530 square feet.
The original plans show all the outside dining located along the southerly end of the upper
floor. The current operators, however, have agreed to lease the balcony facing Pacific Coast
Highway to Picasso's for outside dining. This area is approximately 500 square feet . In
addition, the outside dining area adjacent to the area approved for Monkee's restaurant is
approximately 1230 square feet. As a result, only 1800 square feet is left for the large outdoor
dining area located toward the southwest comer of the upper floor, about 1100 square feet less
than what is shown on the original plans. • •
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The applicant would like this area to be available to Mrs. Garcia's and perhaps to other
restaurants which might locate on the upper floor. )
Given that the outside dining areas have been rearranged, staff proposed that the CUP for
outside dining specifically limit the distribution of outside dining as follows: balcony facing
P.C.H. (Picasso's). 500 square feet ; south end, ease of aisle (Monkee's). 1230 square feet ; and
southwest comer (Mrs. Garcia's and common), 1800 square feet, for a total of 3530 square feet.
Any future changes to the total would require Planning Commission approval through an
amendment to the parking plan and CUP . A minor modification of the distribution of the
outside dining may be approved by the Planning Director so long as the total is not increased.
The only other emphasis of the master CUP. in stafrs opinion, should control how these
outdoor dining areas are separated from other outside public areas, and to control the hours to
prevent late night noise which would impact nearby residential areas.
As such, staff recommended a condition that all outside dining areas be clearly separated from
other public areas and other outside dining areas by barriers to prevent the pass-through of
alcohol, and to control the movement of people between these areas.
Staff also recommended that outside dining areas be closed by 9:00 P.M. on weekdays, and by
10:00 P.M. on Fridays, Saturdays, and holidays. This will ensure that noise generated from
concentrations of people will not impact nearby residents late at night.
Otherwise, the outside dining areas are subject to the conditions in the CUP corresponding to
the subject restaurant. As such, if the restaurant were granted a general alcohol CUP, the
conditions of the CUP would apply to all areas, inside and outside, in addition to the
conditions of the master outside dining conditional use permit.
Public Hearing opened at 7:37 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Dee Harris, 1605 Pacific Coast Highway, property manager, addressed the Commission and: (1)
stated that all three restaurants which will be used for outdoor dining have obtained approval
for alcohol; (2) passed out drawings depicting the project site; (3) pointed out the locations of the
proposed outdoor areas; (4) explained that stainless steel walls with glass inserts will be placed
near Monkee's and at the perimeter of the general outdoor dining area, and there will be double
doors for entering and exiting; (5) explained that planters will be used to divide the general
outdoor dining space.
Ms. Harris continued and: (1) stated that there is 24-hour security and parking facilities; (2)
noted that she has read and agrees with all of the staff-recommended conditions with the
exception of the condition relating to hours of operation: (3) requested permission to have
outdoor food sezvice until 10:00 P.M. on weekdays and 11:00 P.M. on weekends; (4) explained,
in response to questions from the Commission, that there will be waitresses stationed at the
outdoor dining areas to sezvice all customers; (5) discussed the almost 1000 square-foot area
which faces the residential area, stating that that area is not approved for restaurant use and
noted that planters will be placed to discourage people from going to that area, and security will
also ensure that people will not go there .
Ms. Harris continued and: (1) stated that she hopes to lease some space to an exercise club and
to use the 1000 square-foot area (which is not allocated for outdoor dining) for exercise bikes, if
possible; (2) said that the 1000 square-foot space is not currently used for anything; (3) noted
that signs will be posted advising that there shall be no loitering; (4) said that adequate signage
will also be provided to guide customers to the outdoor dining areas.
Public Hearing closed at 7:45 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
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MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-14, with one modification: that Condition No. 3 be amended to read:
"Service of food and beverage to customers in the outside dining areas shall cease at 10:00 P.M.
on Sunday through Thursday, and at 11 :00 P.M. on Fridays, Saturdays, and National Holidays.
All customers shall be cleared from the outside areas by no later than 30 minutes after the end
of food and beverage service."
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Aleks, Rue
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-25 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO DETAILING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 825 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, HABASH
AUTO DETAILING (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF JANUARY 2, 1991)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 31, 1991. Staff recommended denial of the
requested CUP based on insufficient parking for the combination of the proposed auto sales lot
and detailing business. As an alternative, the Commission could approve a master CUP for the
combination of the auto sales and auto detailing businesses.
Since the first of the 1991, several spot checks have been made at this business. The code
enforcement officer has noted on several occasions that two or more vehicles were being
worked on outside in the driveway area in front of the two bays which are allotted to Mr.
Habash for cleaning. This is clearly in violation of proposed Condition No. 2 which strictly
prohibits work outside of the bays.
On January 30, 1991, an inspector from the Building Department made an inspection and
discovered an illegal wall being built inside one of the bays. No permit has been obtained, and
the plans have not been approved by either the Building or Planning Departments. This wall
has been "red tagged" by the Building Department.
On January 31, 1991, the Planning Department received a hand-delivered letter of complaint
from two nearby residents. The substance of the complaint is that Habash Detailing has been:
washing cars outside; dumping alleged illegal substances into the gutters; and causing major
parking problems with the vehicles being cleaned, since the vehicles are parking on the street
in the residential neighborhood. The letter also detailed at length instances of employees from
the shop racing up and down their residential street in cars that are there to be cleaned.
It would appear that Habash Detailing has knowingly ignored most of the dictates of the
Planning Commission and has alienated some of the neighbors. Both planning and building
staff have observed work taking place outdoors, in violation of the City requirements. It seems
clear that the business is not operating as proposed.
The combined violations of City zoning ordinances, the proposed CUP. and the parking
problems caused by this business leave serious concerns that this business will negatively
impact the surrounding neighborhood, which is already impacted.
It should be noted that one of the City Council's goals is to reduce commercial/residential
conflict, and staff felt that approval of this CUP would therefore be counterproductive.
Public Hearing opened at 7:50 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
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Jay Habash. 683 5th Street, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and: (1)
discussed the parking, stating that there is ample parking on 8th Place: (2) stated that cars are
not being washed outside at any time; (3) stressed that he is complying with all City-imposed
requirements: (4) explained how the cars are picked up for detailing, noting that they are not
parking on the public street: (5) noted that there are problems with littering caused by the
Tender Box, and he cleans up the trash and washes down the sidewalk; (6) said that the cars are
washed at the car wash, not on-site.
Mr. Habash continued and: (1) stated that at no time do his employees race up and down the
streets: (2) said that he has had no driving accidents; (3) noted that he knows his neighbors, and
they get along fine, and there are no problems or complaints; (4) explained that he intends to
comply so that his insurance premium goes down, and he noted that his million-dollar policy
is quite expensive: (5) said that no hazardous materials are being used; (6) noted that he is a
long-term resident, and he is trying to have a successful business.
Mr. Habash continued and: (1) discussed the free-standing partition which has been put up; (2)
stated that cars are taken to the car wash and brought back to be buffed; (3) was given copies of
the photographs taken by the code enforcement officer, to which he explained that he had not
seen them before.
Mr. Habash and the Commissioners discussed the photos and plans and: ( 1) Mr. Habash
explained that the photo of the "abandoned" auto is not on his space; (2) in response to a request
from Comm. Marks, Mr. Habash outlined on the plans the exact location of his business; (3)
discussed the wall, to which Mr. Habash explained that the wall is in one of the bays; (4) Mr.
Habash explained that his customers do not park at the site, noting that the cars are picked up
for work from the dealerships and then returned by one of his employees.
Mr. Habash went on and: (1) said that he has two employees; (2) stated that he and the
employees park on the inside parking lot, which is perpendicular to 8th Place: (3) • said that
only one person actually parks, however, since the others ride their bikes; (4) said that the
hours are from 8:00 until 5:00 Monday through Friday and 8:00 until 3:00 on Saturday; (5)
stated that no power tools are used outside at this business; (6) in response to questions from
Comm. Marks, stated that he is unaware of any parking limitation signs on 8th Place.
Ken Haas, landlord of 825 Hermosa Avenue, addressed the Commission and: (1) said that the
lot is kept clean and cars are kept off the residential streets; (2) stated that he is unaware of any
signs indicating parking limitations on 8th Place; (3) noted that Mr. Habash has been a good
tenant, and he has had no complaints from anyone about Mr. Habash; (4) said that he owns the
property, including the used car lot.
Comm. Peirce ref erred to the plot plan and asked questions related to the parkL11.g, to which Mr.
Haas replied that there are at least 12 parking spaces which are used by both the car lot and the
auto detailing shop. Mr. Haas explained that he drew the plot plan: however. he noted that it is
not to scale.
Mr. Haas explained that Mr. Habash has made an agreement with the operator of the used car
lot to use some of their parking.
Comm. Marks asked questions related to the space at the rear of the property, to which Mr.
Schubach explained that that area is a required setback used as a buffer between the
commercial and residential uses. It was further noted that that area cannot be used for trash
enclosures.
Comm. Peirce noted that there is a possibility that a shared parking arrangement is being
discussed between Mr. Habash and the operator of the used car lot. He stated that the parking
issue is a main factor in this decision.
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Mr. Haas agreed that parking is an important issue, but the situation is not as bad as it appears
on the drawing.
Public Hearing closed at 8: 10 P.M . by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. &hubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce, stated that this is a request for a
master conditional use permit. He explained that staff recommended denial of the proposed
use: however, the alternative is to approve the master CUP for the combination of the auto
sales and auto detailing businesses.
Mr. Schubach explained that the auto detailing use would require three parking spaces. He
stated, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce, that the parking spaces depicted on the
plot plan are not legal, since they meet neither the size requirements nor the turning radius
requirements. He stated that it has been noted in the past that that area has been used for
displaying cars for sale.
Comm. Peirce noted that it is admirable that the applicant is making an effort to have a
successful business, and he commented on the manner in which cars are brought to the
business. He noted, however, that there is not even adequate employee parking; therefore, he
found it difficult to support approval of the request.
Chmn. Ketz was not convinced that the available on-site parking would support both
businesses as well as customers. She noted that this is a heavily impacted area. and she
questioned whether parking would always be available on the streets.
Comm. Marks discussed the plot plan and asked questions about the dimensions of the areas
depicted. He stated that it is important to have plans which are drawrl to scale. He felt that
there is a possibility that the area in the rear could be used for additional parking; however, it
would first be necessary to have the plans drawn to scale in order to ascertain the proper sizes.
Mr. Habash explained that the lease agreement has not yet been finalized. He stated, however,
that he would have a scale drawing prepared.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to continue this matter to the meeting of
March 5, 1991, for the purpose of allowing the applicant time to have a scale drawing prepared.
The drawing shall also depict all buildings, walls. fences, parking spaces, and tenant space.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Aleks, Rue
VAR 90-5 --VARIANCE TO ALLOW A 12-FOOT GARAGE SETBACK RATHER THAN THE
REQUIRED 17 FEET AND TO ALLOW A PARALLEL GUEST PARKING SPACE BEHIND THE
GARAGE AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1010
OWOSSO AVENUE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 17, 1991, and recommended denial of the
requested variance.
This project is located in the R-1 zone, with a lot size of 3200 square feet . The building size is
2700 square feet.
The subject property is a comer lot located at the southeast comer of Owosso Avenue and 10th
Street, and it fronts on 10th Street. It is a rectangular-shaped lot of a typical size for the area,
and it downslopes away from the front of the lot. • •
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The staff environmental review committee, at their meeting of September 20, 1990,
recommended a negative declaration, but recommended that the Planning Commission deny
the request because of the request for variances from the height limit and the open space
requirement. Since that time, the applicant has modified the plans to limit the needed
variances to parking setback and to allow parallel guest parking. This was accomplished by
providing open space behind what was previously a third garage space, resulting in a shortage
of parking unless the parallel space is counted as a guest space.
The applicant is requesting a variance to allow the construction of a new single-family
dwelling which would contain about 2700 square feet of living area within three levels. A
variance has been requested to allow the garage to access from the side of the lot. Owosso
Avenue , rather than from 10th Street. because the applicant states that the slope renders a 10th
Street garage impossible.
The applicant has also indicated that the access from the side would be beneficial since it is the
lower side of the lot, and this way he will be able to maximize building square footage. The
problem arises, however, because the lot is 40 feet wide which does not allow for a 20-foot deep
garage and the required 17-foot setback in addition to the 5 -foot setback requirement.
Staff disagreed with the applicant that garage access from 10th Street is impossible. In fact, it
would be a rather simple design solution and would meet the code requirements. Accessing via
10th Street is the only option for most of the adjacent lots on 10th Street. and evidence that it
is not possible.
In addition, another alternative is available whereby the Owosso Street. access could be used if
the garage is oriented to face in a northerly direction rather than directly facing the street and
the 17-foot setback would not be applicable. In this way, cars would enter a driveway area and
tum right into the garage stalls, and three stalls could easily be provided, either three inside or
two inside and one outside. Under this scenario, the applicant could meet code requirements
and would also meet his objective of accessing the property from Owosso. The only drawback is
that most of the ground-floor level would have to be used for driveway area for turning radius
and the garage itself, leaving a smaller basement area. Nonetheless, a house of over 2500
square feet could easily be constructed.
Staff further noted concern over the proposed 12-foot setback, as it may result in cars parking
straight-in and thus cars might overhang onto the sidewalk. Avoiding this situation was the
primary reason for adopting the 17-foot setback requirement. The code only recently was
amended to allow for parallel guest parking, btit only for garages on an alley where blocking
sidewalks is not a concern.
Given that this reques t in volve s completely new construction and, further,· that options are
clearly available to meet code requirement and build a functional house, staff did not believe a
variance is justified. Further, there is nothing unusual, unique, or extraordinary about the
physical characteristics of the subject lot.
Public Hearing opened at 8 :26 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Robert Citelli, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) said that
remodeling is prohibitive in cost, and new construction seems more feasible; (2) stated that
impacts to the neighbors and the neighborhood were taken into account when this project was
designed; (3) commented that this lot is unique in that this is a comer lot, and large setbacks
will be implemented in the project; (4) discussed parking and stated that there is a nine-foot
setback, and the garages proposed are similar to the current garages; (5) said that cars do not
currently park in the drive and hang out onto the sidewalk, therefore, he did not foresee that
happening with the new project.
Mr. Citelli continued and: (1) said that the proposed plan makes good use of the lot, which is
sloped and is on a comer; (2) explained that a wall and commercial property abuts one side of
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his property: (3) said that his neighbors are in support of this project and the plans as designed,
as well as the parking on Owosso: (4) submitted to the Commission five letters of support from
his neighbors: (5) said that the neighbors are in agreement that this plan will not adversely
impact the views, parking, or noise in the area.
Mr. Citelli went on and: ( 1) again stated that this lot is not common. in that it is on a corner
and it has a slope; (2) felt that denial of this project would deny him a property right enjoyed by
others in the area; (3) discussed the option of the garage on 10th Street, explaining that the
neighbors are concerned over that option for reasons of noise. parking, and safety of children;
(4) said that the neighbors favor parking on Owosso; (5) said, in response to questions from
Comm. Peirce, that a third garage cannot be built because there would not be adequate open
space; (6) to which Comm. Peirce countered that the house itself could be smaller to
accommodate a third garage.
Larry Harris, 1200 Aviation Boulevard, Redondo Beach, project architect, addressed the
Commission and: ( 1) responded to questions from Comm. Marks related to the location of the
garage, and explained that the garage is outside of the footprint of the basement; (2) continued
by discussing the location of the proposed garage; (3) discussed with Comm. Marks the plans as
related to open space and the location of the garage; (4) displayed renderings of the project.
Mr. Harris continued and: (1) discussed the staff-proposed alternatives, explaining that those
alternatives did not take into account the neighborhood itself: (2) discussed the alternative of
the garage facing 10th Street. stating that no one favors that placement, since the living area
would be displaced and thereby would push the walls out into the setback area: (3) stated that
Owosso is considered a sideyard. not a front setback; (4) said that a garage on 10th Street would
have an adverse impact the Owosso side, because the building would need to be relocated; (5)
discussed the various setbacks for this project.
Mr. Harris went on and: (1) stressed that this is a unique lot because it is on a comer; (2) said
that corner lots have more sunlight and ventilation than inside lots; (3) said t}:lat he has been
sensitive to the area. and the building has been stepped back; (4) said that the Owosso setback is
larger than is required; (5) commented that this is a very nice design. and approval of the
variance would enable living space on the two upper levels. rather than having living space on
the basement level. •
Mr. Harris continued and: ( 1) urged the Commission to look favorably on this plan: (2) said
that the 12-foot setback is not as big an issue as it appears on first glance; (3) noted that other
homes on Owosso have the same situation as this project, and those projects have 11-foot
garage setbacks: (4) said that this project will not be detrimental to the neighborhood; (5) did
not feel that cars will park in the drive and hang out over on the sidewalk, noting that he has
not seen anyone else in the area doing that; (6) stated that there is no proof ·that cars hanging
out on the sidewalk have been a problem in this neighborhood.
Mr. Harris went on and: (1) noted that neighbors have submitted letters of approval for this
project; (2) stated that other property owners in this area are enjoying property rights which
this owner would be denied if the variance is denied: (3) said that relocation of the garage would
necessitate a rearrangement of living space, sunlight, and ventilation; (4) noted that neither
the applicant nor the neighbors favor this project being built with the minimum setbacks; (5)
discussed the staff report, and stated that it would be impossible to have the garage on 10th
Street and retain the living space arrangement.
Mr. Harris continued and: (1) explained that the minimum sideyard is four feet, not five feet as
stated by staff; (2) stated that the staff proposed parking would increase the mass of the project.
since the building would have to be built to the minimum setbacks; (3) discussed the drawings
he had on display depicting the project and potential mass: (4) said that other property owners
in this area enjoy rights which this owner would be denied, to which Comm. Peirce countered
that those properties were constructed under a different set of code requirements; (5) said that
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he was unaware of any other similar variances granted for projects such as this in the R-1 zone
on a corner lot.
Mr. Harris continued and: (1) again stressed that this is a unique lot with good potential; (2)
urged the Commission to entertain approval of this request.
Kevin Epstein, 1070 10th Street, Hermosa Beach. addressed the Commission and: (1) stated
that this project meets the code requirements; (2) stated that the applicants are not trying to
maximize the project: (3) felt that this is a good proposal which will benefit the neighborhood:
(4) stated that approval of the variance will be good for the area.
Jeff Greene, 922 10th Street. Manhattan Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated that
it is important that the City guidelines be adhered to so that developers have guidelines under
which to work: (2) did not feel that there are unusual or extraordinary circumstances in this
case: (3) said that the 17 -foot setback is a requirement which must be dealt with in the design of
projects: (4) urged the Commission to uphold the requirements of the City.
Public Hearing closed at 8:58 P .M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Peirce asked how the Commission would know what will be built on this lot if this
variance is approved.
Mr. Schubach explained that a variance runs with the land: therefore, another project could be
built unless a condition were imposed requiring that the submitted plans be built.
Mr. Lee explained that the variance would be granted based upon the representation of the
submitted plans. If another set of plans were submitted through the building permit process, it
is possible that the mitigation measures of this project would not be included in new plans:
therefore, it is important that the plans be consistent so that the representations made here are
consistent.
Comm. Peirce noted that the applicant does not desire to build garages on 10th Street, and he
felt that another garage could be added on the side street. He could see nothing unique or
extraordinary about this lot. In response to the applicant's assertions that others in the
neighborhood are enjoying certain property rights. he noted that those projects were built
under different code requirements. He noted that this project must conform to the current code
requirements, as would the other properties if they were built or remodeled now.
Chmn. Ketz could see no unique or extraordinary circumstances related to this lot. She said
that there are many corner lots. and if they were that unique, the code would need to be
amended to accommodate them. She commented that this project might be too large for the lot,
and it should be redesigned. She could not support approval of the variance request, explaining
that she cannot make the findings as required by law.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce. seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve stafrs recommendation,
Resolution P .C. 91-12, denying a variance to allow a 12-foot garage setback rather than the
required 17-foot setback and to allow a parallel guest parking space behind the garage at 1010
Owosso Avenue .
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks. Peirce. Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Aleks. Rue
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
Recess taken from 9:03 P.M. until 9:08 P.M.
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NR 90-5 --AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(B) TO CONTINUE A NONCONFORMING
SIDEYARDAT 1781 VALLEY PARK AVENUE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 28. 1991, and recommended approval of the
request. subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in the R-1 zone. with a general plan designation of low density. The lot
size is 9270 square feet, and the existing building size is 1916 square feet. The proposed
addition is 996 square feet, or a 49 percent increase in valuation. There are two parking spaces.
At their meeting of July 17, 1990, the Planning Commission denied the same request for an
exception by a 3 to 1 vote, based on the fact that the proposal did not meet the then current
terms of the ordinance which allowed an exception only when 75 percent of the block has
similar or lesser nonconforming sideyards.
Since that time Section 13-7(b) (3) has been amended to give the Planning Commission the
authority to grant exceptions when: "the Planning Commission determines that the expansion
within the otherwise code required setback is minor and necessary for the logical extension of
a wall and that the nonconforming side yard is generally consistent with the majority of
existing side yards in the block as defined by the zoning ordinance." This amendment was
adopted by the City Council on November 27, 1990.
At the,meeting of July 3, 1990, the Planning Commission approved the request for a variance
to allow the addition with a slightly deficient parking stall of 17 feet. 3 inches. rather than the
required 18 feet.
The applicant is proposing a second-story addition to the existing ohe-story single-family
dwelling which would increase the floor area of the house from 1916 square feet to a total of
2912 square feet.
The portion of this project under consideration involves a second-story addition above the
existing den's south wall which has a nonconforming side yard which ranges from 3.21 feet to
3.28 feet. The length of the encroaching wall is only about 22 feet. Allowing the second story to
also encroach into the otherwise required side yard of 4.5 feet will allow the construction of a
second story flush with the first-story wall.
Staff previously has field checked and measured side yard setbacks on the subject lot and found
that 50 percent of the lots on the block have similar or lesser conforming side yards. Under the
previously applicable requirement that at least 75 percent have similar or lesser side yards,
there was no choice but to recommend denial.
The current ordinance, however. gives the Planning Commission the authority to grant an
exception when the nonconforming side yard is generally consistent with the majority of
existing side yards of the block. Staff felt that such a finding can be made.
Staff also felt that the proposed continuation of the south wall only for the length of the
existing encroachment is minor and is also necessary for the logical extension of the wall.
Hearing opened at 9:09 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Peggy Kersulis. 1781 Valley Park Avenue, applicant, addressed the Commission and requested
approval of the request so that they build their project straight up, rather than having to dip in
as was previously suggested.
Hearing closed at 9: 10 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
MOTION by Chmn. Ketz. seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-16, as written.
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AYES:
NOES :
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Peirce
None
Comms. Aleks , Rue
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision may be appealed by writing to the City Council within ten
days.
CON 90-20/PDP 90-8 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#22409. AND PRECISE DEVEWPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 6 19 10TH
STREET (REFERRED BACK FROM JANUARY 8 1 1991, CITY COUNCIL MEETING)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 29, 1991, and recommended that the Planning
Commission recommend to the City Council that the Council base their decision on satisfying
the neighbor to the east and to provide the setback to a point which would minimize view
blockage. Staff estimated this to be approximately a seven-foot minimum. As an alternative,
the Commission could recommend by minute order that the Council sustain Condition No. 2,
requiring an average front setback of 10 feet, with a minimum of 7 feet.
Staff noted that they had received word from the neighbor to the east that the neighbor has no
objection to a seven-foot setback, if the waterfall feature remains as shown, and the corner of
the building is set back seven feet .
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce, explained that the Commission
can either make a new recommendation, or they can stand by their initial recommendation on
this matter.
Hearing opened at 9: 16 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Jeff Greene , 922 10th Street. Manhattan Beach, applicant. addressed the Commission and: (1)
stated that he would be happy to mention the original submittal, however, he preferred to
discuss only the issue at hand ; (2) stated that he designed with the five-foot setback in mind; (3)
stated that Council directed that talks take place with the neighbor in an attempt to minimize
any impact to the view; (4) stated that they have met with the neighbor to discuss the project.
and he continued by discussing the footprint of the project in relation to the setbacks; (5) said
that adjustments have been made to the project in order to preserve the view.
Mr. Greene continued and: (1) said that the arc of the front of the building was reduced by six
inches, effectively pulling the building back six inches, however three -inches were s till
impinging on the neighbors' view; (2) explained, therefore, that the arc was pulled back another
three inches. allowing for an almost 90-degree view for the neighbor; (3) continued by
explaining what would happen if the building were pulled back ten feet; (4) displayed a drawing
of the proposed project; (5) discussed the windows and the building itself as they relate to the
neighbors' view.
Mr. Greene continued and: ( 1) said that the neighbor agrees with the current plan; (2) stated
that this project now meets with the intent of the Council to meet with the neighbor to work out
an agreement; (3) discussed the waterfall, stating that it is easier to install the water feature
now rather than having to install it later, and noted that if so desired it can be used for
landscaping rather than a waterfall at the current time .
Carl Janssen, 625 10th Street, neighbor of the proposed project, addressed the Commission
and: (1) stated that the issue of the ten-foot setback is important on this street; (2) stated that he
would prefer a ten-foot setback on the proposed project so that his view is not lost; (3) noted
concern over the proposed waterfall, noting that the State is in a severe qrought; (4) noted that
water features are troublesome to maintain; (5) said that the applicants have made an attempt
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to meet with him to resolve this problem; (6) in response to questions from Comm Marks,
discussed the location and configuration of his house and the street.
Hearing closed at 9:25 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Schubach stated that the staff recommendation is to recommend that the Council base its
decision on the fact that the neighbor to the east is now satisfied with the setback and the fact
that his view will be preserved by use of the 6 foot, six inch setback. He explained that the
Commission is only being asked to comment on the waterfall protrusion, not any of the other
setbacks.
Jeff Greene explained that the waterfall portion was redrawn and brought back; nothing else
has been changed. He noted that the plans have already been approved, and the only issue in
question is the waterfall feature protrusion which has been pulled back to satisfy the concerns
of the neighbor.
Comm. Peirce stated that he has not changed his mind on his original recommendation of the
ten-foot setback. He stated that it is commendable that the applicant has met with the
neighbor; however, he did not feel it would be appropriate to set a precedent with this case. He
felt that the rules and regulations must be adhered to.
Chmn. Ketz stated that she would support approval of the compromise of seven feet, noting that
the neighbor to the east has been satisfied. She noted, however, that approval of the
compromise would unfortunately mean that other setbacks on the street could be less than ten
feet.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Marks, to recommend that the 10-foot setback
be retained, as originally recommended by the Planning Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce
Chmn. Ketz
None
Comms. Aleks, Rue
CUP 90-5 --REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 1031 HERMOSA AVENUE.
GOLDEN LION LIQUOR
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 31, 1991, and recommended that the
Commission direct staff to continue to strictly enforce the provisions of the conditional use
permit which was adopted on November 26, 1990.
At the Planning Commission meeting of October 2. 1990, several Commissioners expressed
concern regarding the lack of progress at this project, and a condition to report back as to the
progress by January 1991 was added to the conditions of approval.
Mr. Schubach stated that it appears that the owner of the property and the owner of the
business are now working together to comply with all statutes of the conditional use permit.
He stated that the applicants have until March 1, 1991, to comply with all conditions. If
compliance is not met by that time, a citation can be issued.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to receive and file. No objections; so
ordered.
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FIRST QUARTER GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 31, 1990, and stated that it is time to schedule
general plan amendments. State law allows cities to amend the general plan four times per
year. The Planning Commission or City Council may request general plan amendments.
At this time, no private projects have been submitted, and staff had no suggestions for areas to
be considered. If the Planning Commission desires to discuss potential amendments, staff
should be directed to start the process at this time.
Chmn. Ketz stated that there were no recommendation from the Commission at this time.
STAFF ITEMS
a) Setback Interpret ation at 501 and 517 Hermosa Avenue
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 5, 1991, and recommended that the alley side of
the lot be interpreted as the front yard, the Hermosa Avenue side as the side yard, and to use the
alley setback requirements for the front yard dimension.
This issue has arisen in response to a request to the Building Department to construct two
separate single-family dwellings on Lot 22 (parcels 24 and 25). The setback requirements in
the R-3 zone are not clear for the rear half-lot.
Pursuant to Section 11 -1 of the zoning ordinance, when an ambiguity exists with respect to
yard requirements, it is the Planning Commission's duty to set forth findings and
interpretation by resolution. Said resolution must ultimately be adopted by the City Council.
The subject lot is a half lot with frontage on Hermosa Avenue and the alley known as 6th Court
in the R-3 zone. Section 603 pertaining to front yards in the R-3 zone requires a setback as
shown on the zoning map. Neither the Hermosa Avenue nor the 6th Court frontages have such
a number on the map due to the fact that they are normally rear and side yards .
Pursuant to Section 233, the definition of "front lot line" is the line separating the lot from the
street, which would mean that Hermosa Avenue would be considered the front. However, it also
states that in the case of a corner lot, the front lot line shall be the line separating the
narrowest street frontage from the street. Therefore, if 6th Court were considered to be a street,
it would be the front .
Because of these ambiguities, staff is unable to make a legal determination. -Nonetheless. staff
felt that the most logical interpretation, in order to be consistent with other lots on the block,
would be to consider the 6th Court side the front and require the same setback required for the
alley side on the other lots on the block (three feet on the ground floor, and one foot on the
second floor) and to consider Hermosa Avenue the side yard, resulting in a setback of 10
percent of the width, or 3.36 feet .
Mr. Lee concurred with staffs interpretation and recommendation on this issue. He noted that
this recommendation pertains to this project only, explaining that these matters are addressed
on a case-by-case basis.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce , seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-16, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Aleks, Rue
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b) P~ Department Activity Report for December 1990
Comm. Peirce asked questions about MAX ridership and subsidies. to which Mr. Schubach
gave a brief update. Comm. Peirce wanted to know how many riders are from Hermosa Beach.
c) Tentative Future Plannlnlf Commission Menda
No action taken.
d) List of Completed Projects for Inspection
Mr. Schubach explained that Commissioners can make arrangement to see the interiors of
completed projects if they so desire.
e) City Council Minutes of Januruy s. 1991
No action taken.
COMMISSION ITEMS
Comm. Peirce commented on the League of California Cities meeting, to which Mr. Schubach
noted that funds are available for Commissioners who wish to attend.
Chmn. Ketz asked about HIP (Housing Improvement Plan) nominations, to which Mr.
Schubach gave a brief update.
Comm. Peirce asked about the joint Planning Commission/City Council workshop which was
to take place, to which Mr. Schubach _explained that the Council has requested that the meeting
be postponed.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded byChmn. Ketz, to adjourn at 9:54 P.M. No objei:;tions: so
ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action
• taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of February 5, 1991.
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Resolution P.C. 91 -15, A RESOLUTION OF 1HE PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIIE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
OUTSIDE DINING AND ON -SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH A
RESTAURANT TO ALLOW TIIE ENCLOSURE OF THE OUTSIDE DINING AREA LOCATED ON
THE AERIAL WALKWAY WITIIIN LORETO PLAZA AT 49 PIER AVENUE, AND LEGALLY
DESCRIBED AS LOTS 22, 23, AND 24, BLOCK 13, HERMOSA BEACH 1RACT;
Resolution P.C. 91-16, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION PURSUANT
TO SECTION 13-7(C) (3) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN EXPANSION OF AN
EXISTING WALL NONCONFORMING TO TI-IE REQUIRED SIDE YARD SETBACK AT 1781
VALLEY PARK AVENUE , AND LEGAILY DESCRIBED AS LOT 31, 1RACT 15546;
Resolution P.C. 91-18, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO INTERPRET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR A
"HALF-LOT" IN TIIE R-3 ZONE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 1101 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE
PERTAINING TO AMBIGUITIES IN THE CODE, LOCATED AT 517 HERMOSA AVENUE, AND
LEGAILY DESCRIBED AS TIIE NORTHERLY 4 7.5 FEET OF LOT 22, BLOCK 6, HERMOSA BEACH
TRACT.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks,Peirce,Chmn.Ketz
None
Corrnn. Rue
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM mE PUBLIC
No one appeared to address the Commission.
CON 90-22 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22560
FOR A 1WO-UNIT CONOOMINIUM CONVERSION AT 544 AND 546 25TII STREET
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 12, 1991, and recommended that this item be
continued to the meeting of March 19, 1991, so that the applicant can revise the project to
provide adequately dimensioned parking spaces and to submit the physical report as required
by Section 7.2-21(b) of the zoning ordinance.
This project is located in the R -lA zone, with a lot size of 7466 square feet. The existing living
area of the front unit is 2460 square feet; existing living area of the rear u nit is 2084 square
feet. Three parking spaces currently exist, and five are being p roposed for the project.
The subject property contains two existing units attached at the garage level. Three enclosed
parking spaces are located between the units, accessed from the side.
The two units were constructed in 1964. The rear unit was remodeled and enlarged in 1990 by
the addition of a second story. The front two-story structure is proposed to be remodeled to add
a roof deck, entry area, interior upgrades and a new roof. The plans are currently in plan check
in the Building Department.
The applicants wish to convert the existing dwellings to condominium ownership. The zoning
ordinance requires a conditional use permit for condominium conversions and sets forth the
standards for review of such requests.
The zoning code includes a provision that " ... the Planning Commission shall require that
condominium conversions ... conform to the current requirements of the City codes .... " (Section
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7 .2~30). As such, the first step is to determine whether these existing dwellings meet cu1Tent
zoning requirements.
Staff. therefore, has reviewed this request for confonnance with the zoning code as it applies to
the R -lA zone and to condominiums. The dwellings, as depicted on the plans, generally
conform with zoning requirements except for parking dimensions. Two of the proposed
parking spaces are shown at 8 feet, 2 inches wide. rather than the required 8 feet, 6 inches. The
one along the driveway can easily be corrected, but the one adjacent to the rear dwelling is
bounded by the east wall of the house and the property line and thus would require a further
remodel. The two proposed parking spaces are not currently being used for parking.
Another deficiency is that the plans do not indicate any storage areas toward meeting the
storage requirements.
The plans otherwise conform to lot coverage, setbacks, height, open space, turning radius
requirements. and all other zoning standards.
A further requirement of the condominium conversion section is that a tenant assistance plan
be provided. Given that these two units are owner occupied, this section is not applicable.
However, staff felt that a proof of ownership and a signed affidavit should be provided to verify
that the occupants are indeed the owners.
Another requirement is that a physical report " ... detailing the structural condition of all
elementcs of the property including foundation, electrical, plumbing. laundries, utilities , walls,
ceilings, windows, recreational facilities, sound transmission of each building. mechanical
equipment, parking facilities, and appliances ... " is required as part of subuuttal (Section 7 .2~
21[b)). The applicant has been notified of this requirement and is requesting that this be
applied as a condition of approval. Staff does not feel this would be appropriate given that the
code specifically requires this physical report as part of the submittal, and, as such, the
infonnation in the report may bear upon the Planning Commission's decision.
In regard to the deficient parking stall width for the parking space in the rear, it should be
noted that when the remodeling vians were submitted in April of last year, the applicant was
advised that the required parking stall widtl1 is 8 feet, 6 inches. The plans were approved at
that time, however, because he was not applying for the conversion, and the additional space
was not necessary for obtaining building pennits.
As an alternative to another remodel to the rear unit to create adequate width for the parking
stall, the applicant may request a variance. Staff, however, does not see the justification for
such a variance since there is clearly room on the site, through building remodels, to provide
the required parking. . • · -•
Finally, on August 25, 1988, the Building Department notified the applicant of a violation due
to the fence located in the public right-of-way in front of the lot. To this day, although a pennit
to correct the violation has been obtained, the fence has not been removed.
Comm. Rue stated that he would like to see exterior elevations of the project before final
approval. He noted that the buildings currently look very dissimilar.
Public Hear:irlg opened at 7:09 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Elizabeth Srour, 820 Manhattan Avenue, Manhattan Beach, representing the applicants,
addressed the Commission and: (l) stated the proof of ownership will be provided as requested
by staff; (2) described the two proposed units, explaining that the units meet all requirements of
condominium use: {3) stated that the applicants desire to upgrade the units by remodeling, and
both units will then be very similar; (4) discussed the required physical report, stating that it is
a very expensive document to provide, therefore, the applicants would like this requirement to
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be included as part of the conditions of approval; (5) stated that when the project is .finished, )
both units will be very similar as related to the age and the amenities.
Ms. Srour continued and: (1) discussed parking. stating that the applicants were aware of the
guest parking requirements from the very beginning; (2) gave background history of the rear
unit and its parking dimensions; (3) stated that the issue of the rear parking did not come to
light until after the plans were submitted; (4) explained that the wall was moved one foot as
requested by the City so that the parking would conform; (5) discussed the new plans, stating
that the new wall was tom down during construction and moved in, in order to comply with the
guest parking requirements of the condo ordinance.
Ms. Srour went on and: (1) stated that staff's recommendation to again alter the wall is
somewhat harsh; (2} said that the guest parking space is currently being used for parking: (3)
said that the proposed parking dimension is not unheard of; (4) said that the parking does meet
the intent of the code; (5) explained that the applicant made an attempt to comply with the laws
that ensted at the time.
Ms. Srour continued and: ( 1) discussed the front parking space, stating that it is easy to comply
with all requirements: (2) was informed by Mr. Schubach that the parking space in the rear is
also too short. to which he added that staff can study this issue further.
Cbmn. Ketz asked why the applicant did not obtain a CUP prior to commencement of the
remodel, to which Ms. Srour explained that she suspects there was a communication problem
which resulted in the current problem.
Ms . Srour stressed that there has been no intention to circumvent any code requirements.
Mr. Schubach suggested that this matter be continued so that staff can further study this
matter.
Ms. Srour asked for direction from the Commission on this project, in light of the fact that
staff is requesting a physical report.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that a variance is required for
the parking: therefore, a decision cannot be made at this time.
Mr. Schubach explained, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, that the ph:ysical report is
necessary so that staff can set forth conditions of approval.
Ms. Srour stated that she could understand staffs concerns; however, she pointed out that these
units are not attached at the second level She stated that sound attenuation is very important,
but again, she noted that no li'Ving areas share common walls.
Mr. Lee explained that the physical report is a requirement of the condominium ordinance:
therefore, the requirement cannot be waived unless the code is amended.
Mr. Schubach. in response to comments from Comm. Marks, explained that the City does not
make pro'Vision for compact parking spaces in residential zones.
Ms. Srour st.a.ted that, had they known, the applicants would have applied for a variance at the
outset. At this time, however, she asked for input from the Commission as to whether this
proposal meets the intent of the condominium ordinance.
Mr. Schubach st.a.ted that if the wall problem is corrected, a variance would not be necessary.
Public Hearing continued at 7:27 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
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Comm. Rue stated that the application appears to be fine; however, he had several concerns
related to the appearance of the front unit, noting that it does not have the same architectural
design as the rear unit. He noted that condos should have cohesiveness of design, especially as
related to age and appearance of the buildings. He felt that the open space and heights are
acceptable, and he noted that the only problems appear to relate to the parking. He explained
that a variance would be necessary in this case for the parking. He then questioned whether
other cities have provisions for approving "minor variances."
Chmn. Ketz expressed concern over the size of the parking spaces, particularly since this
project was started before the applicant applied for the conditional use permit.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve staffs recommendation to
continue this item to the meeting of March 19, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Cornms. Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Peirce
CUP 90-23 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PATIO DINING HOURS
UNTIL DARK AT 200 LONGFELLOW A VENUE, LA PENITA #2 (CONTINUED FROM MEETINGS
OF 10/ 16/90, 11/20/90, AND 1/2/91)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated October 9, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission· approve the proposed CUP amendment with the following change: Outdoor
dining including service of beer and wine shall be limited to 9:30 AM to 8:00 PM during
daylight savings time, and 9:30 AM to 6:00 PM during Pacific Standard Time.
This project is located in the C-1 zone, with a general plan designation of neighborhood
commercial. The applicant is presently operating a Mexican restaurant with service of beer
and wine and outdoor dining. A residence is located upstairs.
On June 6, 1989, the Planning Commission approved a beer and wine conditional use permit.
The staff environmental review committee, at their meeting of January 5, 1989, recommended
the adoption of a negative declaration for the project.
The Planning Commission approved a conditional use permit for outside dining for the
"Shrimp Pot" at this address on April 6, 1976.
Currently, the restaurant is restricted to outdoor dining from 9:30 AM to 4:00 PM. Staff felt
that the hours could be expanded so long as the noise ordinance standards are not violated. An
amendment to the current conditions would prohibit noise exceeding the noise limits, and any
violation would result in an immediate limitation of the hours of operation. Further, the
applicant must agree that the City's monitoring of the noise is adequate evidence that excessive
noise is occurring and therefore the hours of operation would be reduced to the original hours
of 9:30 AM to 4:00 PM if a violation occurs.
Because there are currently two CUPs, one for outdoor dining and one for beer and wine, staff
has combined the two CUPs via this amendment into one comprehensive CUP which
supersedes the other two.
It should be noted that the parking area is in need of restriping; the stripes are almost
obliterated.
Comm. Rue discussed Condition No. 2(a): "At any time noise that violates the City's noise
ordinance is generated by the subject restaurant, it shall be cause to limit the hours of
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operation to 9:30 AM to 4:00 PM in the outdoor dining area." He noted that one incident would )
be sufficient to force the restaurant to go to the shorter hours.
Public Hearing opened at 7:33 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Gilbert Orozco, 16826 Denker Avenue, Gardena, representing the applicant, Mary Orozco,
addressed the Commission and: ( 1) stated that with the exception of the striping, all conditions
have been met; (2) stated that the applicant has read and agrees with all of the proposed
conditions; (3) stated that he is aware that one noise violation shall be cause to limit the hours
of operation on the patio.
Public Hearing closed at 7:36 P .M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, stated that since no square
footage is being added to this business, no additional parking is being required .
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that noise is monitored boiji
on a complaint basis and on a regular enforcement basis.
Comm. Rue questioned whether Condition No . 2(a) is too onerous, noting that an isolated
instance of patrons becoming too noisy could be cause for reducing the hours of operation on
the patio.
Mr . Schubach stated that the City is interested in chronic noise problems, not one-time
incidences. He noted the importance of enforcement.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve staff's recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 90-99, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Peirce
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-2 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OFF-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL AT AN
EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY LICENSED BY THE A,B,C. AND FOR ADULT VIDEOS
AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 3232 MANHA.TIAN
AVENUE. DAN'S UQUOR
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated January 21, 1991, and recommended approval of the
requested CUP. subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in the C -1 zone, with a general plan designation of neighborhood
commercial. The lot size is 4320 square feet. with a building size of 2982 square feet. The
current use is as a preexisting liquor store, mini market, deli, and X-rated video sales. There
are seven parking spaces.
Dan's Liquor is located on the southeast corner of Manhattan Avenue at 33rd Street. It is a
single-story building with diagonal parking south of the building. The business is presently
operating from 7:00 AM until 2:00 AM daily.
Dan's Liquor is one of the remaining existing businesses selling alcoholic beverages subject to
the alcohol amortization ordinance which has not obtained a CUP. It should be noted that this
business began the CUP process in January of 1990, but the store was sold in the summer of
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1991 and the subsequent owner has stated he was unaware of the requirements to complete the
CUP process. There has thus been a lengthy delay.
At their meeting of February 8, 1990, the staff environmental review committee recommended
an environmental negative declaration and recommended that the Planning Commission
require the applicant/ owner to submit a sign plan that conforms with the present code along
with a new plan for the layout of parking and for a trash enclosure.
The Police Department requested that Dan's Liquor participate in the soon-to-be-implemented
EASY Program and to sell single containers of alcoholic beverages in clear plastic bags so that
the contents are easily visible.
The requested CUP would authorize the continued general alcohol sales at this location.
The proposed use of a liquor store/deli seems in tune with the neighborhood usage while
operating there for over 20 years. However, the request to sell X-rated videos does not seem
appropriate for a business located in a residential neighborhood.
Staff is also concerned with the existing diagonal parking layout which results in cars
regularly parking over the public right-of-way.
Further, the trash dumpster should be enclosed with an approved masonry enclosure with a
screened gate after approval by the Planning Director as to location on the property. It appears
the trash container could be located along the west wall just below the storage area in the
southernmost portion of the parking lot.
The boarded up front window area on the west side could use sanding and painting. Also, in the
parking lot, landscaping would be provided along the west wall of the southern portion of the
property.
Otherwise, since this is an existing business with no major history of police problems
according to the records, staff felt that the sale of alcohol and a deli should be allowed to
continue. subject to the proposed conditions, which include standard conditions of the zoning
ordinance and conditions relating to parking, the trash dumpster, signs, and landscaping.
Also. the recommended conditions include a provision to require that single containers be sold
in clear bags. The Police Department has also recommended a condition to require this
business to participate in the EASY Program.
Staff felt that X-rated videos might possibly be acceptable in such a business, but that X-rated is
out of the question in this case because of the business' proximity to homes and children.
However, because of case law, the City can only regulate such uses when they are a minor part of
the business.
Public Hearing opened at 7:47 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Ronald Duffaut, property owner, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated that he has only
recently become aware of the CUP requirement; (2) explained that he received the staff report
only last week; (3) explained that he has been unable to contact the business owner to discuss
this proposal; (4) asked that this matter be continued in order that he might have an
opportunity to study the issues and meet with the business owner; (5) explained that the
ownership of this property has recently been changed.
Mr. Schubach stated that staff has no objection to a continuance as requested by the property
owner.
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Edie Weber, 1201 11th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) asked at
what point a minor usage of adult videos becomes a major usage; (2) asked who monitors such
usage; (3) questioned the ramifications of such a usage.
Mr. Lee responded by explaining that case law does not specify an exact percentage as to what
constitutes an adult usage. In some instances, 50 percent has been used to categorize an adult
usage.
Mr. Schubach explained that a code enforcement officer monitors the usage of X-rated videos,
and the City can conduct an audit of the inventory if deemed necessary.
Mr. Duffaut stated that he will work with the business owner in an attempt to discontinue the
use of X-rated videos.
Public Hearing continued at 7:54 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to continue this hearing to the meeting of
March 19, 1991, so that the owner can have time to study the matter.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Peirce
Comm. Rue conunented on the parking and asked whether the parking could be done in a
parallel fashion as opposed to diagonal. He noted safety concerns over the current diagonal
configuration.
CUP 90-37 /PARK 90-9/PDP 90-10 --CONDITI ONAL USE PERMIT. PARKING PLAN. AND
PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AUTO BODY SHOP AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1081-1085-1087 AVIATION BOULEVARD,
EUROPEAN BODY SHOP
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 13, 1991, and reconunended that the Planning
Commission approve the proposed CUP. PDP, and Parking Plan, subject to conditions,
including limiting the number of service bays to four by adoption of the proposed resolution.
Staff suggested an alternative recommendation that the request be denied, with the finding
that the site is inadequate in size for an auto body repair and painting business.
The City Council, at their meeting of October 23, 1991, sustained the decision of the Planning
Commission, on appeal, to deny a similar request because of concerns that the proposed size of
the building was not adequate for storage of wrecked vehicles, plus work areas and storage of
parts, and thereby the exterior parking lot would inevitably become the area for storage of
wrecked vehicles and be an eyesore. Although Council denied the request, it directed the
applicant to further discuss alternatives with staff to address their concerns.
The applicant has resubmitted the request with a modification in the plans to construct a
much larger building. The proposed interior service area is approximately 57 percent larger
than the previous proposal and contains nine service bays rather than the previously proposed
four. This appears to indicate that the intent is not to satisfy the issues of inadequate vehicle
and parts storage and outdoor work activities, but instead to build an oversized body and
fender shop.
The applicant has met with staff to discuss the alternative to enlarge the building. Although
staff believes that an even larger building would be possible and that a larger site would be
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more appropriate ibr this type of use, the proposal appears to be satisfactory if there is
compliance with the conditions of approval.
A parking plan is necessary because the strict applicatio11 of the code-required parking is based
on building square footage. At one space per 250 square feet, the requirement in this case
would be 18 spaces. Staff felt that a finding can be made to allow a sum total of 16 spaces rather
than the 18 in this case because a significant amount of the building will be dedicated for
parking purposes, not work areas. This is only possible, however, if some of the service bays
are eliminated and dedicated to parking and storage of vehicles only,
The submitted plans depict using all the interior area for service bays during operating hours.
Staff felt that to make the findings for a parking plan and to appropriately control the scale of
the business operation, a portion should be left for parking and vehicle storage only. As such,
staff recommended a condition that the service bays be limited to four, and that the remaining
interior space be used for vehicle storage/ parking, meaning that the other five spaces would be
for vehicle storage and parking only, not for work areas.
The new plan also includes a large area for parking and storage of vehicles overnight. This is
an added benefit of the larger building, but by itself does not address the need to provide
parking during the day which again indicates the applicant is not trying to address the
concerns stated above. The only way these concerns can be addressed is by limiting the number
of service bays.
The new plans have reduced the rear setback to five feet. The minimum required by the code is
ten feet for a two-story building adjacent to a residential zone. Although the zoning to tbe rear
is commercial, it is used re~identially; therefore, staff included a condition that the plans be
revised to show a ten-foot setback. This will allow for adequate room for substantial trees to
grow. In addition. staff recommended a condition that doorway access be provided to the rear
to allow for access to the landscaped area for maintenance purposes.
It should also be noted that the new plans provide for a six-foot block wall along the rear of the
property and for a six-foot-high fence along the front consisting of tubular railing and a
concrete block base. Staff included conditions that these walls be constructed with decorative
materials to the satisfaction of the Planning Director.
In regard to the concerns over noise, the work areas will be completely enclosed in a concrete
block building, and windows and doors shall be closed when work activities are being
conducted. For assurance, a condition is included that adequate ventilation be provided to
ensure comfort and safety while the doors are closed. Also, the hours of operation Will be
limited Monday through Friday to between 8:00 AM and 6:00 PM and Saturdays from 9:00 AM
to2:00PM. •
The release of fumes and odors will be subject to the most current requirements of the Fire
Department and the Air Quality Management District. However, with the close proximity to
dwelling units, state-of-the-art methods of eliminating odors are necessary and must be shown
in detail on revised plans.
Staff felt that the new design, in conjunction With the proposed conditions, should adequately
mitigate the many concerns associated with this type of business to a level to make the
business compatible with the surrounding area.
Staff is aware that a saturation of auto body repair shops already exists in the area. and that
many problems have yet to be resolved with the operation of these businesses. Although
adding another shop does not appear to be a step toward jm.proving the area, the construction
of a shop with the type of building and site improvements proposed by this applicant may show
that this type of use can be compatible with the area and set an example for the existing shops.
This would require diligence on the part of the City to ensure that conditions are being
followed, and the willingness of the busines.c; to comply with all of the conditions at all times.
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Mr. Schubach. in response to questions from Chmn. Ketz, stated that the proposal calls for
seven parking spaces outside and nine indoor service bays. Staff is requesting the removal of
five of the indoor service bays. In any event. there would be a parking deficiency of two spaces,
since 18 spaces are required.
Public Hearing opened at 8:05 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Jim Marquez. representing the applicant, addressed the Conimission and: (1) stated that the
present location of the body shop is at 505 l / 4 Pacific Coast Highway, and the applicant is
requesting to relocate the business pursuant to the City's amortization requirement$; (2) stated
that it is desired to enlarge the size of the structure so that the outdoor area is not used for
storage of vehicles: (3) explained that the outdoor area will at no time be used for storage of
vehicles or parts: (4) said that four service bays will be adequate, and the applicant will retain
the other five bays for the storage of vehicles: (5) discussed the setback, stating that a ten-foot
setback at the rear will be retained for use as a buffer.
Paul Phillips, also representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) stressed that
all conditions will be met by this business; (2) noted that the Commission bas the power to
re\tiew this business to ensure that all conditions are being met; (3) noted that because the
building bas been enlarged, only 16 parking spaces are available; (4) noted that a ten-foot
setback at the rear will be provided; (5) felt that this business can be an asset to the City and can
serve as an example to other businesses; (6) in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated
that he feels this business can meet all air emission requirements.
Edie Weber. 1201 11th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and (1) discussed
requirements in other cities for businesses such as this: (2) asked for an emergency
moratorium until the City can decide in which zone businesses of this type should be located;
(3) fel t that this business does not meet the current requirements for air emission standards; (4)
n oted concern over the proliferation of businesses of this type in the area; {5) noted concern
over illegal spot painting. especially near residential areas.
Ms. Weber continued and: (1) noted concern over the appearance and safety of businesses of
this type; (2) noted concern over environmental and pollution control; (3) wanted current
emission figures for businesses such as this in the City; (4) noted concein over the nealtb and
safety of residents; (5) stressed that nothing has changed with any of the currently existing
body shops in the City, noting that problems have not been corrected.
Ms. Weber went on and: (1) discussed methods used by body s}lops and noted concern over their
safety; (2) stated that many regulations are in place and all should be adhered to by auto body
shops; (3) discussed penalties available for \Ti.olation of the air quality standards; (4) noted
concern over fumes, parking. traffic, safety, air, and noise so close to the residential areas.
Ray Martin, 1255 Corona Street. Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) opposed
approval of this auto body shop; (2) stated that the area is already too congested; (3) noted
concern over wrec k ed vehicles on the site: (4) urged the City to clean up that area of the City by
not allowing another auto body shop; (5) noted concern over noise and paint fumes.
Bernard Winnaker, 1232 Corona Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1)
noted concern over the number of auto body/repair shops in the area: (2) noted concern over the
noise emanatiIIg from these establishments; (3) stated that the quality of life in the City would
be degraded by approval of this project.
Martin Moreno, 1326 Cororta, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) opposed the
proposed project, noting that there are already too many such businesses in the area; (2) noted
concern that the auto body shops are not adhenng to all requirements.
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Maurice Bouday, 1203 11th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) opposed
approval of the request; (2) noted concern that the issue of this body shop keeps coming up, and
he asked for the City to make a decision on this matter; (3) discussed the water purification
system, and he noted that the State is currently in a severe drought; (4) discussed AQMD
standards and questioned what policies will be implemented; (5) noted concern over air quality
and odors emanating from the business; (6) expressed concern over the harmful effects of
breathing paint fumes; (7) agreed that a moratorium would be appropriate until such time that
the City arrives at a policy on these types of businesses.
Tanya Bouday, 1203 11th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) n oted
concern that this issue keeps being continued, and she questioned whether citizens are really
informed on this matter; (2) opposed approval of this project, especially since there are already
12 other similar businesses in the City; (3) urged the City to take action against those other
businesses that are in violation of the requirements.
Danice Lendl, 1232 Corona, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) opposed
approval; (2) noted concern over the air quality in the area; (3) stated that she has had
respiratory problems recently, and she questioned whether it could be related to business es of
this type.
Ray Sutton, 1225 Corona, Hermosa Beach. addressed the Commission and: (1) discussed the
parking and noted concern over whether there will be adequate parking for both employees
and cars being serviced; (2) discussed the rear setback and asked whether it will affect the
number of parking spaces available.
Mr. Phillips, on behalf of the applicant, again addressed the Commission and: (1) noted that
this business is a member of the community, and it is the only business which is preparing a
strategy to deal with the problems; (2) asked what action is being taken against those other
businesses which are not in compliance; (3) noted that they are not asking to add another body
shop in the City, they are only attempting to relocate an existing business; (4) stressed that this
is the only business attempting to map out a plan to deal with the problems.
Mr. Marquez again addressed the Commission and: (1) stated that this is not a service garage;
(2) stated that all AQMD requirements are being met; (3) noted that a state-of-the-art system is
being used; (4) stated that this business is unfairly being compared to other businesses which
are not in compliance; (5) explained that it is the intention of this business to comply and be a
viable part of the community; (6) said that this business is an example of how other businesses
should be operating.
Public Hearing closed at 8:37 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Peirce asked staff for an update on what is happening with other similar businesses in
the City, to which Mr. Schubach explained that these business are part of the amortization
process, and the businesses have two years in which to comply with the requirements. City
staff has investigated other similar business to ensure that they are in compliance; if they are
not complying, citations will be issued requiring that the owners appear in court.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce, stated that so far as he is aware,
businesses must conform to AQl\ID requirements as soon as they are adopted.
Mr . Schubach stated that staff is attempting to ensure that all paint fumes stay inside the
building so that fumes do not permeate the air.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce, stated tliat he is not aware of how
often the AQMD sends inspectors to the City. He noted that the AQMD does not have the
manpower to continually monitor the City; therefore, the City is attempting to implement its
own enforcement procedures.
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Comm. Peirce noted that this use is one which is pennitted in the zone for which it is proposed. l
He therefore did not feel a finding can be made to prohibit the use at the site. He did, however,
feel that the business can be conditioned so that it is more attractive and more compatible with
the neighbors, and he felt that the applicant has already taken steps in that regard. He felt that
a recommendation could be made to the City Council that a moratorium should be imposed
based on the currently existing number of similar businesses in the area.
Comm. Peirce stated that the issue of the size of the business needs to be addressed.
Comm. Rue discussed the issue of paint fumes. dangerous solvents. and air quality. He noted
that he is not well-versed in these topics, and he would feel more comfortable with more
information on those issues. He questioned how effective state-of•the-art technology actually
is as related to air quality.
Mr. Schubach stated that staff was planning to contact air pollution experts to ensure that the
proposed state-of-the-art technology is adequate. He stated that, if so desired, the information
could be presented to the Commission for study before any approval is recommended.
Comm. Rue agreed that this business is being penalized because of other similar businesses
which are not in compliance. He again noted that he would like additional information on air
quality before making a decision on this matter.
Chmn. Ketz noted concern over counting the indoor parking in the overall parking
calculations. She also felt that once indoor bays are constructed, there is no guarantee that
they will be used for parking. She noted concern over the overall parking layout and parking
enforcement.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to continue this matter to the meeting of
April 2, 1991, for the purpose of obtaining additional information on the air quality
standards, dangers from emissions, and the effectiveness of the proposed air filtration system.
The information may be presented either by staff or by a qualified expert.
Comm. Peirce stated that the main concern relates to the nearness of this business to the
surrounding neighbors, especially in light of the prevailing winds which can carry particles
and odors to the residential areas.
Comm. Rue felt that it is the responsibility of the Commission to be concerned with health and
safety issues, as well as issues of planning. He felt that the issue of where these types of
businesses can be located is quite relevant.
Comm. Peirce, for the benefit of the applicant. pointed out that the • Commission is
uncomfortable with the number of bays proposed for the inside of the building.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks. Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Comm. Rue also requested information related to the requirements imposed by other cities on
businesses of this type.
CON 89-9 --EXTENSION OF THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #20820 FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIDM PROJECT AT 632 6TH S'.1RE--1IT
Mr. Schubach recommended that the request for a one-year extension be approved. The reason
for the request is based on the current economic situation. He suggested, however, that it be
continued for no more than one year, since requirements can change.
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Hearing opened at 8:58 P.M. byChmn. Ketz.
Rod Merle, 485 25th Street, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and stated
that this is not an appropriate time to coilllilence work on this project, and he requested a one-
year extension as recommended by staff.
Hearing closed at 8:59 P.M. byChmn. Ketz.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve staff's recommendation to
approve the extension of Tentative Parcel Map #20820 for a two-unit condominium project at
632 6th Street, for one year, to June 6, 1992.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms.Marks,Peirce,Rue,Chmn.Ketz
None
None
None
a) Memorandum Regarding Parking Along Beach Drive
Mr. Schubach stated that this item would be continued to March, explaining that the Director
of Public Works has been absent from the City.
b) City Council /Planning Commission Workshop
Mr. Schubach stated that this matter will be brought back for discussion at a future meeting.
c) Memorandum Regarding Planning Commission Liaison for February 26. 1991. City
Council Meeting
No one will attend as liaison.
d) Tentative Futw:e Planning Commission Agenda
Comm. Rue asked that the Commissioners be provided with the actual legal opinion related to
adult videos.
e) City Council Minutes of January 22. 1991
No action taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Rue suggested that the Commission again address the permitted use list for the
commercial zone.
Comm. Peirce requested an update on the HIP program, to which Mr. Schubach explained that
formation of the committee has been postponed by the City Council.
Comm. Rue requested that the Commissioners be provided with minutes from HIP meetings,
once they are underway.
Chmn. Ketz asked whether Manhattan Beach has a provision allowing for "minor variances,"
to which Mr. Schubach responded that he will look into the matter.
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Comm. Peirce asked whether the City has obtained a report from the census. to which Mr. )
Schubach replied in the aff'lrmative and stated that additional information will be available
in July.
Comm. Peirce discussed how many MAX riders are actually from Hermosa Beach. He wanted
additional information on how much money is being spent per rider in the City.
Comm. Peirce asked when Cal Trans will install red curbing along Pacific Coast Highway, to
which Mr. Schubach replied that there could be a delay of up to two years.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to adjourn at 9: 13 P.M. No objections; so
ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action
taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of February 19, 1991.
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Mr. Schubach asked that the Commissioners provide input on this project, especially in regard
to the overall architectural appearance of the projects. He explained that both projects are
identical; however, they were requested as two separate projects.
Public Hearing opened and continued at 7:05 P.M . by Chmn. Ketz, who noted that no one
appeared to speak on either of these projects.
Mr. Lee explained that it would be appropriate at this time for Commissioners to express their
views on the overall architectural features of the projects so that staff can discuss the issues
with the applicant.
Chmn. Ketz commented that the main issues relate to potential view loss and setbacks.
Comm. Rue stated that with the two lots, he was surprised that the open space was not
combined. He noted that overall lot coverage is under the allowed maximum. He felt that the
projects could be consolidated, and that attempts could be made to make the projects less
intrusive bulkwise.
Chmn. Ketz favored staffs suggestion that there be only one driveway for the projects.
Comm. Rue noted that there is no view preservation ordinance; however, he felt that the views
can be made more attractive. He did not feel this project, as submitted, takes advantage of the
maximum potential view.
Comm. Marks asked whether it is necessary that there be a second means of egress from the
third level, to which Mr. Schubach replied in the affirmative and stated that he would check
into the matter further to ensure that that requirement is met.
Comm. Peirce stated that all four units are identical. He felt that more can be done to make the
projects more attractive, both to potential owners as well as to the City.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve staffs recommendation to
continue the public hearing to the meeting of April 2, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CUP 91 -1 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO SELL ADULT VIDEOS AND FOR OFF-SALE
GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONNECTION WITH AN EXISTING MARKET ALREADY LICENSED BY
A.B.C. AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 3127
MANHATTAN AVENUE, BOCCATO'S GROCERIES
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 26, 1991, and recommended approval of the
conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in the C-1 zone, with a general plan designation of neighborhood
commercial. The lot size is 3850 square feet, and the building size is 2800 square feet. The
current use is as a preexisting grocery store. There are five parking spaces.
Boccato's Groceries is located on the southwest comer of Manhattan Avenue and 32nd Street.
It is the only use of the lot. The store is open from 9:00 AM. until 9:00 P.M. Monday through
Saturday, and from 10:00 AM. until 8:00 P.M. on Sundays. The applicant indicates that the
store is open until midnight daily during the summer.
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Boccato's is one of the remaining existing businesses selling alcoholic beverages subject to the
alcohol amortization ordinance which has not obtained a conditional use permit.
At their meeting of January 17, 1991, the staff environmental review committee recommended
an environmental negative declaration and recommended that the Planning Commission
require the applicant to enclose the trash dumpsters behind a view-obstructing fence and gate.
and to slurry seal and restripe the parking lot.
The requested CUP would authorize the continued general alcohol sales and if approved would
also allow the sale of adult videos and magazines.
Staff is concerned with the proposal to add adult video sales. The proposed use of a liquor
store/video sales could be a dangerous trend for wholesale opening of these types of busines ses
in establishments that service neighborhoods. Because of the proximity to residences, within
a hundred feet, and the possible availability to minors for sale, it is felt by staff that this is not
a proper mix of businesses. Also, Section 10-5 of the zoning ordinance states the sale of adult
videos should be greater than 100 feet from residential property.
According to the City Attorney, since the proposed video sales are only a small portion of the
business, incidental to the alcohol sales, the City does not have the authority to deny the sales.
As such, staff recommend that any adult video sales must be incidental to the grocery
store/liquor sales and should not represent more than 10 percent of the sales.
Staffs only other concerns are related to the appearance of the parking lot. The existing tv.ro
trash dumpsters are completely exposed to view and should be screened. Further, the parking
lot striping is severely faded and the surface is uneven and in need of repair.
Otherwise, since this is an existing grocery store/general alcohol sale business, staff felt that
the sale of alcohol should be allowed to continue, subject to the proposed conditions. The
conditions are limited to standard conditions of the zoning ordinance and conditions related
to the trash dumpster and the parking lot surface. The standard conditions include a provision
to require that single containers be sold in clear bags. The Police Department has als o
requested that a standard condition be added to require alcohol establishments to participate
in the Eliminate Alcohol Sales to Youth (EASY) Program.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce, explained that the requirement to
screen the trash enclosure is a provision of the municipal code, not the zoning ordinance:
however, staff has been including it as a standard condition in CUPs.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce related to what the requirements
for the pavement would be if this business were not applying for a CUP, explained tha t
businesses are required by the parking ordinance to maintain their parking lots in a
reasonable condition. •
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Marks, stated that no complaints have
been received related to the hours of operation for this business. He noted, however, that
several letters have been received from people who oppose this business having to obtain a
CUP.
Comm. Marks noted that this application had been filed under protest. and he asked for
clarification on what this means.
Mr. Schubach explained that the applicant was required by the City to apply for a CUP under
the City's amortization process within two years of notice.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz. at 7: 17 P.M.
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Phil Freeland, 315 South Beverly Drive, Beverly Hills, representing the applicant. addressed
the Commission and: ( 1) said that the applicant is applying for this CUP under protest because
he does not feel it is a legal requirement to obtain the CUP; (2) said the business has been in
operation for 22 years and is legally "grandfathered in" because a CUP was not previously
required; (3) said that the business has caused no problems in the past; (4) asked for a written
legal opinion from the City Attorney related to the legal requirement for obtaining the CUP; (5)
said that it is not within the purview of the City to require a CUP for a business already
licensed by the State ABC and one which is in operation.
Mr. Freeland continued and: ( 1) discussed the City's reasoning for the CUP requirement; (2)
said that this business was licensed by the ABC long before the City applied alcohol sales
requirements; (3) said that the business is compatible in its neighborhood; (4) objected to the
recommended conditions as suggested by staff, explaining that the applicant feels many of the
conditions are unreasonable, especially since this business has been in operation for many
years; (5) said that if the CUP is denied because an agreement cannot be reached in regard to the
conditions, and the business is subsequently forced to close, it would be a case of inverse
condemnation.
Mr. Freeland continued and: (1) stated that the City does not have the right to close the
business without paying just compensation; (2) stated that he was not certain of the City's
position on this matter; (3) asked for a written clarification; (4) asked that this hearing be
continued for 30 days so that the attorney for the applicant can further study the matter and
determine a course of action; (5) noted that the applicant would like to withdraw the portion of
the request relating to adult videos, and all references to adult videos in the CUP. explaining
that the applicant has no desire to sell such materials.
Comm. Marks asked whether Mr. Freeland or the applicant had met with staff to discuss these
issues, to which Mr. Freeland replied that over the past two years they have always maintained
that Boccato's is a legally grandfathered use. He said that they have been in contact with City
staff over the past two years regarding the requirement that they must apply for the CUP. He
also noted that the applicant had received a letter from the City Attorney six months ago.
Mr. Freeland stated that the issue is not that the applicant does not understand the
requirement; rather, it is that the applicant objects to the requirement.
Mr. Freeland, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce regarding which of the specific
conditions the applicant disagrees with, stated that the applicant disagrees with all of the
conditions, except the one which pertains to maintaining the property in a neat and clean
manner.
Mr. Freeland, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce, explained that they also object to
the requirement that the trash area be enclosed. He explained that an enclosure would
necessitate the loss of one on-site parking space. He said that since there are only five spaces.
the loss of one space would be a substantial impact. He stressed that there is very little on-
street parking, and any loss of on-site parking would be quite detrimental to this business.
Mr. Freeland, in discussion with Comm. Peirce, stated that there is no way whatsoever to
enclosure the trash area without the loss of one parking space.
Comm. Marks asked whether the applicant has met with staff to discuss another possible
location for the trash, to which Mr. Freeland replied in the negative. He noted, however, that
they are open to options.
Mr. Lee. in response to a request from Chmn. Ketz, discussed the City's legal stand on this issue.
He stated that it is legally appropriate to bring such use within the conditional use permit
process as allowed under the amortization ordinance. He stated, however, that since this is a
use which was in effect prior to the CUP requirements, the Commission cannot impose
conditions so stringent that it would force the business to terminate. He explained, however,
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that reasonable conditions can be imposed which would mitigate adverse impacts created by
the business.
Mr . Lee continued by discussing past correspondence between his office that the applicant. He
stated that alcohol-related conditions are preempted by State law, and he noted that no
conditions in the CUP regulate the actual use of alcohol: rather, the conditions address the
environmental issues raised by such use, not the actual sale of alcohol.
Mr. Lee stated that the City is on good legal foundation in terms of moving forward with this
conditional use permit. He stated that, if so desired by the Commission, his office would
prepare additional material on this request.
Mr. Lee, in response to a question from Chmn. Ketz, explained what would happen if the CUP
were approved, and the applicant did not agree to the conditions.
Comm. Rue suggested that the matter be continued so that the applicant and staff can discuss
the issues.
Public Hearing closed at 7:34 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Rue encouraged the applicant to come to an agreement with the City and try to come to
an understanding of the conditional use permit process. He felt that it is important for the
applicant to understand the City's position on this matter.
Comm. Peirce felt that the only condition at issue is that relating to the trash enclosure. He did
not feel it would be appropriate to have the City Attorney spend a lot of time and money
preparing more information. He stated that laws are laws and should be complied with.
Comm. Rue noted, however, that it is important for the applicant to understand the procedures.
He felt it is worth an effort to reach such understanding to avert potential legal problems in the
future.
Comm. Peirce stated that he would agree to a one-month delay: however, he stressed that he did
not want the City Attorney to spend money on further work.
Comm. Marks stated that the only physical problem relates to the trash enclosure. He
suggested, therefore, that the applicant meet with staff to resolve that problem.
Chmn. Ketz agreed that she would like to see the applicant and staff come to a resolution on
this problem.
MOTION by Comm. Rue. seconded by Comm. Marks, to continue this item to the meeting of
April 2, 1991, so that the applicant and staff can discuss these issues in an attempt to reach an
agreement.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CUP 90-25 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO DETAILING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 825 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. HABASH
AUTO DETAILING (CONTINUED FROM MEETINGS OF 12/4/90. 1/2/91. AND 2/5/91)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 25, 1991, and recommended denial of the
requested CUP based on insufficient parking for the combination of the proposed auto sales lot
and detailing business.
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Mr. Schubach suggested an alternative, to approve a master CUP for the combination of the
auto sales and auto detailing business.
Mr. Schubach explained that the applicant has now submitted a new plan with a scale drawing
which shows that the parking has been realigned to the south property line. • He pointed out the
changes on the plan.and noted that the applicant asserts that there is now adequate parking.
Mr. Schubach stated that staff has discovered on several occasions that cars are being washed
in the area designated as a detailing area. It was also noted that an interior wall is still in place
which was not allowed. Staff felt that, overall, the site is too small for the proposed location.
Staff also noted concern over cars being washed outdoors and cars being parked in the area
designated for work area. Staff had concerns over the general overall operation of this
business, especially since there is another business at the location.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce, stated that nine parking spaces
are required for the two uses. There are seven outside, and two are within the rear of the
building. He explained that the required parking has now been relocated to the south property
line.
Public Hearing opened at 7:46 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Jay Habash, 683 5th Street, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and: (1)
stated that he received a letter notifying him that the garage area cannot be blocked; (2) state_d
that the property owner has given him spaces 2, 3, and 4 for parking for the detail shop; (3)
stated that he has a 24-month lease agreement for the three parking spaces: (4) passed out a
copy of the lease agreement; (5) discussed the plans, explaining that cars are no longer being
washed outdoors, only indoors, and no motor work at all is done on the premises.
Mr. Habash continued and: (1) stated that there are no problems with this business and the
other business on site; (2) noted that there is plenty of parking in the area; (3) stressed that he
keeps no more than three cars on the lot at any one time; (4) explained that the cars block the
way of no one; (5) stated that he has a letter from the surrounding neighbors who do not oppose
this business, and he handed in the letter with the signatures.
Mr. Habash went on and: (1) explained that when the owner comes in, he needs to have access
to the garage; (2) said that he can park in that fourth space so long as the owner is not there
getting into the garage; (3) stated, in response to a question from the City Attorney, that he has
a 24-month master lease with the property owner, and the master lease runs for the same
length of time as the parking agreement; (4) said that he works on no more than three cars at
any given time, and there are no more than three cars there at a time; (5) stated that he is in
agreement with everything the City is asking him to do; (6) said that he began all car washing
indoors one week ago; (7) stated that he uses no power equipment at all outdoors.
Public Hearing closed at 7:53 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Peirce stated that the business now appears to be much smaller than was originally
submitted. He felt that the business would be viable if only three cars are on-site at any given
time. He noted that enforcement is important. He felt it would be appropriate to give the owner
an opportunity to operate, and there can be a review in three months.
Comm. Peirce noted concern that cars would be stored while other cars are being worked on.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Marks, explained that one parking space
is required for each 1000 square feet of lot size.
Chmn. Ketz referred to Condition No. l 7(a): "The small air compressor used for dislodging
items from dashboards, etc., shall be the only use of any air compressor equipment." She
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asked whether the applicant requested this, or whether it was a staff-recommended condition.
Mr. Schubach explained that the condition was added after staff observed the operation of the
business.
Mr. Schubach. in response to a question from Chmn. Ketz, explained that there is not a
condition requiring the doors to be closed during work because the doors face the highway. and
staff did not feel noise would be a problem.
Comm. Peirce referred to Condition No. 11: "Because of the lack of customer parking, the auto
detailing business shall be conducted such that customer vehicles are picked up from the
customer's location and delivered back to the customer: a maximum of three (3) vehicles shall
be on the premises at one time for detailing." He wanted to ensure that this condition is met.
Mr. Lee suggested that the parking agreement be revised to specify the number of cars being
committed to his use under the agreement He also suggested the addition of a condition
requiring that the applicant provide continuing evidence of the availability of parking for his
continued use: otherwise, there would be an automatic termination of the conditional use
permit.
Comm. Peirce wanted to prevent cars from blocking the front access. He also noted concern
over the number of cars to be stored that are not being worked on. Mr. Habash stated that the
provisions of his insurance do not allow him to store cars overnight.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve P.C. 90-100, with the following
amendments: ( 1) a condition shall be added requiring that the applicant provide continuing
evidence of the availability of parking for his continued use: otherwise, there would be an
automatic termination of the conditional use permit: (2) there shall be a three-month review of
the business.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-20/PARK 90-5 --REVIEW OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 1106 HERMOSA
AVENUE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 28, 1991, and recommended that the
Commission direct staff to pursue enforcement of the CUP as necessary and to strictly enforce
the required improvement for parking in the rear by June 3, 1991.
On August 7, 1990, the Planning Commission approved a conditional use permit and parking
plan to allow a health and fitness facility (weight training) by adoption of Resolution 90-63.
The Commission also requested a six-month review.
The approval was subject to several conditions, most notably, a requirement that the rear area
along the alley be improved to provide five parking stalls by June 3, 1991: that the business
provide validation for the public parking lots: and that bicycle parking be provided inside the
building.
Staff inspected the site on February 28, 1991, and discussed the conditions with Mr. Mccolgan.
The rear area adjacent to the alley has not been improved yet, but Mr. McColgan indicated that
he is aware of the requirement and is in the process of preparing plans to carry out the
improvement by the June 3 deadline.
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Mr. Mccolgan also indicated that he provides validation for customers who park in the public
parking lots, noting that he validates no more than a dozen in a day. He further noted that the
majority of his customers walk or ride bikes. Bikes are parked inside the building.
Also, pursuant to Condition No. 7, 800 square feet of the interior shall be used for retail sales
and the reception entry area. Although it is hard to determine if this is precisely being
followed, several pieces of equipment are displayed for sale toward the front of the building as
well as clothing and other accessories that are displayed behind the reception counter.
The business is in compliance with all other conditions, except that staff has n ot received
evidence that the CUP has been recorded with the deed.
Hearing opened and closed at 8:07 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz, who noted that no one appeared to speak
on this issue.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation. No
objections; so ordered.
CUP 90-8 -REVIEW OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 1018 HERMOSA AVENUE. COMEDY
AND MAGIC CLUB
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 28, 1991, and recommended that the six-month
review be postponed an additional six months.
On August 7, 1990, the Planning Commission approved a conditional use permit and parking
plan to allow expansion to the Comedy Club. One of the conditions was to require a six-month
review.
The plans for the expansion are currently in plan check, with building permit issuance
pending. Therefore, it would not be appropriate to conduct a review until the project is
completed.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation to
continue the review an additional six months. No objections; so ordered.
STAFF ITEMS
a) Planning Department Activity Report for January 1991
No action taken.
b) Memorandum Regarding Planning Commission Liaison for March 12. 1991, City
Council Mee~
No one will attend as liaison.
c) Tentative Future Planning Commission ~enda
Comm. Rue asked for an update on the land use element, to which Mr. Schubach replied that
staff is currently working on the land use study.
Mr. Lee distributed copies of the legal opinion relating to regulation of adult videos. He
suggested that the Commissioners read the materials, and they can discuss it at the next
meeting.
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d) City Council Minutes of February 12. 1991
No action taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Peirce asked how much money the City contributes to MAX each year, to which Mr.
Schubach replied that he is not certain of the exact amount.
Chmn. Ketz gave a brief update on the activities of RUDAT. She said that the study is going
well. and a fundraiser is being planned for the near future.
Comm. Peirce asked about the installation of a red curb along the highway, to which Mr.
Schubach replied that he does not have a definite time yet.
Comm. Rue asked for an update on the recycling program, to which Mr. Lee explained that
progress is being made.
Mr. Schubach and the Commissioners discussed the water shortage. Issues covered were
possible use of "gray water" which could be used for recycling: spilled sewage: efforts of "Heal
the Bay" to save Santa Monica Bay: the procedures which must be undertaken to increase water
rates: and rationing.
The Commissioners favored a recommendation to the City Council that the City support the
efforts of "Heal the Bay."
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to send a letter to the City Council asking
that the Public Works Department be directed to prepare a draft ordinance to allow "gray water"
to be recycled. No objections: so ordered.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to adjourn at 8:33 P.M . No objections: so
ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action
taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of March 5, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairman
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