HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1991_01_02MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELD ON JANUARY 2, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Peirce.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
Also Present: Michael Schubach, Planning Director; Paul Yoshinaga, Assistant City
Attorney; Sally White, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve the following consent
calendar items:
Planning Commission minutes of December 4, 1990;
Resolution P .C. 90-98, A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A VARIANCE TO ALWW A GARAGE SETBACK
OF 16 FEET RATIIER TI-IAN TIIE REQUIRED 17 FEET AND TO ALLOW TIIE SUBSTANDARD
SETBACK OF 16 FEET TO BE COUNTED AS A GUEST PARKING SPACE AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1734 PROSPECT AVENUE, LEGALLY
DESCRIBED AS LOT 9, ANGELA HEIGHT TRACT;
Resolution P.C. 90-101, A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALWW OFF-
SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITII A CONVENIENCE MARKET AND ADOPTION
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 828 HERMOSA AVENUE, JAY'S
MARKET, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS WTS 19 AND 20, TRACT 1564.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN :
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Comm. Rue discussed Resolution P .C. 90-103, Condition No. 5, stating that the intention of the
Planning Commission was to require landscaping whether or not the newspaper racks are
relocated.
Chmn. Ketz directed staff to modify the wording in C0ndition No. 5 of Resolution P.C . 90-103 to
clarify that landscaping is indeed required whether the newspaper racks are relocated or not.
MOTION by Comm. Rue. secorided by Comm. Peirce, to approve as amended Resolution P.C. 90-
103, A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIIE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 2
HERMOSA AVENUE, MARINA LIQUOR. AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS 1 AND 2, BWCK
42, FIRST ADDffiON TO HERMOSA BEACH.
AYES :
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks. Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one appeared to address the Commission.
CUP 90-25 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO DETAILING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 825 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, HABASH
AUI'O DETAILING (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF DECEMBER 4, 1990)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission deny the requested conditional use permit, based on insufficient parking for the
combination of the proposed auto sales lot and the detailing business. As an alternative, staff
recommended approval of a master conditional use permit for the combination of the auto
sales and auto detailing businesses.
At the meeting of December 4, 1990, the Planning Commission continued this request for
consideration of a master CUP for the property in question and also based on the fact that
neither the applicant nor the landowner was present for the hearing.
Staff does not feel that the site can support these two distinct businesses because of the lack of
customer and employee parking. However, if the Planning Commission is comfortable
making a finding, in consideration of the detailing business' proposed use of a service to pick
up and deliver all customer vehicles, and that the auto bays should count toward the parking
requirement, then adoption of the proposed master CUP resolution would be appropriate.
The proposed master resolution incorporates all conditions from the existing CUP for auto
sales as well as suggested additional conditions for mitigating the impacts from the proposed
auto detailing business.
Mr . Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Peirce related to the use of a valet service
at this business, explained that even though the City does have a code enforcement officer,
strict enforcement of a valet service would be difficult to monitor over a long period of time.
Public Hearing opened at 7:08 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz, who noted that no one appeared to speak on
this issue.
Mr. Schubach explained that the applicant was sent a notice informing him of the date and
time of this hearing. He stated that the applicant has not contacted the Planning Department
regarding this matter, and he was unaware of the reason for the applicant's absence.
Public Hearing closed at 7:09 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. ·Rue recalled that the reason this hearing was continued from the last meeting was to
allow the applicant and the landowner an opportunity to be present to discuss this matter;
however, he noted that they did not appear and he therefore felt denial would be appropriate.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Marks, to deny the request to allow the operation
of an auto detailing business in conjunction with an existing auto sales business at 825 Pacific
Coast Highway, Habash Auto Detailing.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
(The applicant arrived later in the meeting, and the public hearing on this item was reopened.
See Page 16 of the minutes.)
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CUP 90-23 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PATIO DINING HOURS
UNTil, DARK AT 200 LONGFELLOW AVENUE (CONTINUED FROM MEETINGS OF OCTOBER 16
AND NOVEMBER 20, 1990)
Mr. Schubach stated that as of Thursday. December 27, 1990, staff had not received an affidavit
of noticing from the applicant. The applicant was contacted by staff who was told that the
letters had been sent out; however, no proof of mailing has been received. He further noted that
he saw no one in the audience to speak on this issue.
Mr. Schubach suggested, therefore, that this matter be continued. He explainedthat staff has
implemented a new policy whereby the proper mailings will now be done by staff, upon
payment by the applicant for postage and paper.
Comm. Aleks noted concern that this matter will again be continued, and he felt such a
practice is a waste of staff's time.
Mr. Schubach explained that staff is hoping to avoid these problems in the future, since staff
will now be doing the mailings.
Public Hearing opened at 7: 13 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz, who noted that no one appeared to speak on
this issue.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation to
continue this public hearing to the meeting of February 19, 1991.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 90-21 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22666, AND
A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 36 15TH STREET
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 18, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission continue this request to the meeting of February 5, 1991, to require the applicant
to re-design the project so that access is provided from the alley only.
This project is located in the R -3 zone, with a general plan designation of high density
residential. The lot size is 3692 square feet. . The existing use is as a single-family dwelling.
The proposed density is 23.6 units per acre . Seven parking spaces are provided, and two on-
street parking spaces will be lost. 880 square feet of open space will be provided . The
environmental determination is categorically exempt.
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The subject property is located immediately to the east of parking lot "F" which is part of the
Biltmore Site. The lot width tapers from 41 feet at the street frontage to 35 feet along the alley,
and it is basically flat.
The proposed structure consists of two units containing approximately 2100 square feet each,
and each unit has four bedrooms and three and a half baths. These units are three levels and
include a roof deck. The side yard areas are proposed to be raised four feet above grade so that
the bottom level can qualify as a basement pursuant to the building code. The advantage of
qualifying as a basement is that only one exit is required to all levels, rather than the two exits
that would be required for a three-story structure.
The proposed building elevations exhibit a stucco exterior, pipe railings. glass block, and dark
anodized aluminum windows. The design mixes rounded comers with standard square
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corners which will somewhat soften the impact of the bulky structure. The combination of
features gives the building a contemporary art deco appearance.
Parking is provided in two, two-car garages oriented to both the alley and the street. The
proposed street access results in a curb cut that would eliminate two existing on-street metered
parking spaces. Three guest spaces are provided in the setback areas behind the garages to
provide required guest parking and to replace the two lost on-street spaces.
As the Commission is aware, the adopted Circulation, Transportation, and Parking Element of
the General Plan, implement policy 4.9 states: "Require that vehicle access to new residential
developments which front on both street and alley be provided in the alley only. This will
minimize on-street curb cuts and preserve available parking."
Also, the condominium section of the zoning ordinance, under "Purpose," states that the
ordinance is to promote certain standards including: "(d) A layout of structures and other
facilities to effect consetvation in street, driveway, curb cut and other public or quasi-public
improvements .... "
Given these established policies, the Planning Commission clearly has the authority to
require alley-only access. In stafrs judgment, it definitely should be required in this case,
given that two public parking spaces would be lost. Further, these two spaces are very close to
the beach on a street which does not have very much available parking. Also, since it is a flat
lot with adequate width, providing parking with access from the alley can be accomplished
rather easily and can be done so in a manner that provides as much off-street parking as is
being proposed.
Recently, the Planning Commission has allowed projects to access from both an alley and a
street. However, in those cases an ovezwhelming factor in making that determination was that
the alley sides of the lots were at a much higher grade than the street side, thus making it
difficult to provide access via a driveway because of the slope involved. Also, in both of those
cases the lots were only 30 feet wide.
Staff also noted that the project architect was 'notified of these City policies regarding access on
December 11, 1990, to give him adequate time to revise plans to meet staffs concerns prior to
the scheduled hearing date. The applicant, however, has chosen to take this proposed design to
the Commission.
The project complies with most other planning and zoning requirements. Lot coverage
calculates to be 65 percent: adequate open space is provided in private decks; and the height is
right at the 35-foot limit. However, plans need to indicate the ground-floor storage.
Another. staff concern relates to the proposed ground-floor family rooms, which could easily be
converted to bootleg units since a bathroom and doozway exit are located at that level.
Since the parking lt::vel design needs to be completely changed to bring in access from the alley
only, the plans should be revised and returned to the Planning Commission at a later date.
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Mr. Schubach stated that, if so desired by the Commission as an alternative, the requested
project may be approved by adoption of the proposed resolution of approval, which includes a
condition to require that doozway access to the ground-floor bedrooms be eliminated.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, explained the setback
requirements, stating that there must be a 17-foot setback from a street; however, alleys are
not required to have the 17-foot setback.
Public Hearing opened at 7:23 P.M . by Chmn. Ketz.
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Gerry Compton, 200 Pier Avenue, project architect, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated
that when he discussed this project with City staff last summer. no mention was made of the
fact that there was a problem with the access for this project: (2) stated that, so far as he is
aware, there is no City ordinance in place requiring alley-only access: (3) explained that he has
no objection to the alley-only access concept, however, he does object to such a requirement
when it is not actually a law: (4) said that he had no idea that such a requirement would be
imposed on new projects. and he noted that others will have difficulty in determining what is
and what is not required for projects in the City; (5) discussed the parking problems in the City,
especially as they relate to parking for small single-lot projects which will ultimately have too
much concrete in order to provide for the parking.
Mr. Compton continued and: (1) discussed his project, stating that one entire side is
landscaped: (2) discussed the lower-level access, stating that he was attempting to provide patio
access: (3) said that the parking requirement was placed on this project without his prior
knowledge, and he did not feel this was an appropriate condition; (4) felt that if the alley-only
access is to be a requirement in the City, public hearings should be held at the Planning
Commission and City Council levels, and it should be fully discussed and analyzed.
Mr. Compton went on and: (1) stated that he has worked on many other projects that have a
single access, and he noted that it is difficult to make tum-arounds on such projects: (2)
stressed that the staff-proposed parking would result in a sea of concrete: (3) said that the
proposed project will be quite nice, noting that the west side has a ten-foot setback due to the
large lot size; (4) felt that the design is quite interesting; (5) commented that the two units have
been separated in the middle so that there is a single-family feeling to the units.
Mr. Compton continued and: (1) discussed the existing street parking and handed out a parking
analysis prepared by his staff; (2) stated that. with a slight modification to the plans, the
project could be built with the loss of only one on-street parking space: (3) noted that the project
was initially reviewed by staff with no comment made about the alley-only access: (4) noted
that staff made no mention of the problem until early December, which did not allow the
applicant time to revise the plans: (5) commented that the alley-only access requirement has
been implemented without benefit of public hearings, and there is no ordinance currently in
place related to .that requirement. •
Mr. Compton continued and: ( 1) suggested that there be a zoning code revision if the City
decides to implement the alley-only access requirement on projects: (2) stated that he very
closely monitors City Council and Planning Commission actions so that he is well informed
as to City requirements: (3) said that it is very difficult to work in this City because there are so
many requirements: (4) commented that the Circulation Element is very comprehensive and
has too many requirements which have not been incorporated into the City codes: (5) discussed
how changes are made in this City. and he stated that it is not reasonable to expect people to
keep abreast of all the new requirements.
Mr. Compton concluded by discussing the on-street parking which will be lost, and he stated he
would be willing to accept a condition requiring that no more than one on-street parking space
be removed.
Public Hearing closed at 7:40 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Rue discussed general plan implementation policies. He stated that he was unaware of
how the alley-only access requirement evolved, noting that that requirement is only a policy,
not an ordinance. He felt that if such a requirement is to be imposed, it should go through
public hearings.
Chmn. Ketz pointed out, however, that the general plan amendments were addressed during
public hearings, and the plan was adopted . She did not feel it would be appropriate to have
every single element of the general plan adopted as ordinances.
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Comm. Rue stated that it is difficult for people to begin projects when they are not aware of all
the requirements. He felt that a city should not be run by its general plan; rather, the code
should be the guiding document. If it is desired to implement general plan items, he felt that l
they should be addressed in public hearings first and then adopted as ordinances.
Comm. Aleks noted concern that the applicant was unaware of the alley-only access
requirement, commenting that the applicant was informed only on December 11 that there
was a problem with the parking. He therefore agreed that a public hearing should be held to
address the alley-only access requirement. noting that it would be difficult to apply such a
requirement in all cases.
Comm. Peirce felt that this project should have alley-only access. He continued by discussing
the bootleg potential of this particular project, noting that it would be a prime candidate for a
bootleg conversion even if the outside door were removed. He noted that the "family room" is
quite large, almost 500 square feet, has a full bathroom at that level, and there is a large closet.
He stated that he could not support approval of the project, based on its bootleg potential and
based on the proposed parking.
Comm. Peirce, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, stated that even if the door w ere
removed from the lower level, he would still oppose the project, explaining that the interior
entryway could be modified, and the area would still be completely self-contained. He could
not be convinced that a family room needs a full bathroom, stating that the only reason for a
full bath would be the desire to use the room as a bedroom.
-Comm. Peirce stated that even if the lower level were modified, he could not support this
project, based on the proposed parking.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Marks, explained the enforcement
procedures and penalties for bootleg use.
Comm. Aleks noted concern over the potential bootleg use, stating that the possibility could be
reduced by requiring the size of the bathroom to be reduced and by requiring the shower to be
removed from the bathroom.
Public Hearing reopened at 7:52 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Compton explained that the owner will occupy one of the units, and the lower level was
designed to accommodate the owner's mother. It was then decided to have the same
configuration in the other unit. He stated that, if so desired by the Commission, the bathtubs
can be removed from the lower-level bathrooms.
Mr. Compton shared the Commissions' concerns related to bootleg conversions in the City,
noting that such uses benefit no one.
Public Hearing closed at 7:55 P .M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Chmn. Ketz stated that she could not support this project, based on the fact that she strongly
favors the alley-only access. She felt that there should be better communications between
architects and City staff, and she suggested that mandatory preliminary meetings be held so
that staff can let their concerns be known before detailed plans are prepared.
Mr. Schubach explained that such meetings are held; however, he suggested that written
concerns can be provided to applicants, and copies can be maintained on file by staff.
Mr. Compton stated that it is very difficult for people to understand the requirements of the
City.
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Comm. Rue suggested that written handouts be provided to applicants so that they are fully
informed of the requirements.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to approve Resolution P.C. 91-1, with the
following modifications: (1) that the downstairs bathtub be eliminated, and the size of the
bathroom be reduced to include only a toilet and sink: and (2) that only one on-street parking
space shall be removed, and the applicant shall be required to pay for any realignment of
parking spaces.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Rue
Comm.Peirce,Chmn.Ketz
None
None
Comm. Rue hoped that as much on-street parking as possible can be retained in the City.
Chmn. Ketz agreed and suggested that that item be discussed by the Commission.
PARK 90-7 -PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW A SECOND-STORY OFFICE ADDITION PROVIDING
LESS THAN THE REQUIRED OFF-STREET PARKING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 415 PIER AVENUE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission deny the requested parking plan.
This project is located in the C-2 zone, with a general plan designation of general commercial.
The lot size is 3239 square feet. The current use is as a one-story medical office. The floor area
is 1600 square feet. There are four legal parking spaces. The proposed addition is 1145 square
feet, which results in a requirement of 14 parking spaces.
The Planning Commission, at their meeting of September 5, 1989, denied a similar request for
a parking plan and variance to allow the second-story addition. On October 10, 1989, the City
Council sustained the Planning Commission decision on appeal.
The staff environmental review committee, at their meeting of September 20, 1990,
recommended denial of the request and recommended that approval only be considered if an
environmental impact report is prepai:ed to address cumulative impacts of any further similar
projects.
The applicant is requesting to construct a second-story addition to an existing medical office
building. Instead of requesting a variance, the applicant has revised the request as a parking
plan oajy. The suggestion is that the parking deficiency of ten spaces (14 required versus 4
available) can be justified by the use of a combination of ride sharing, public transit, and the
leasing of parking for employees at Plaza Hermosa.
The commercial building is currently nonconforming to parking. Four standard-sized
parking spaces are available off the alley. Under current requirements for the existing
structure, eight spaces would be required. The applicant indicates that as many as ten cars can
actually be parked behind the office if parking in tandem, assuming a parking space size of
eight feet by fifteen feet.
The concerns previously noted by staff and the Planning Commission are still valid: How can
the City effectively enforce the ride-sharing/public transit/off-site parking proposal? What
happens when the business changes? How can the City legally stop the use of the second story
or enforce the ride-sharing program to the new business? What about the precedent that would
be set? Can the downtown area support additional building square footage without parking?
Will it have a negative impact on other existing businesses that depend on an available supply
of parking?
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Further, in staffs judgement, this proposal does not fit within the scope of the provisions of
Section 1169 pertaining to parking plans for the following reasons: (1) The proposal does not \
address the issue of the impact of additional customer parking. Even if this addition is for l
personal office space and storage only, it will free up additional space downstairs and
potentially increase the number of customers; (2) The feasibility and continued use of the ride-
sharing program is questionable for an employee staff this small; (3) The amount of the
requested deficiency is rather severe (four spaces instead of fourteen) and as such, the
immediate impact on adjacent businesses could be severe; and (4) the suggestion to use some of
the public parking at Plaza Hermosa is not feasible, as that parking was provided for public use
as part of the development agreement with the City.
Mr. Schubach, in response to a question from Comm. Rue, explained that the legal requirement
for a compact parking space is seven and a half feet by fifteen and a half feet.
Public Hearing opened at 8:06 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Jack Wood, 200 Pier Avenue, Hermosa Beach, representing the applicant, addressed the
Commission and: (1) stated that he has appeared before the Commission previously on this
item; (2) stated that the applicant is a pioneer and wishes to propose an alternative; (3) said that
the City is not willing to face the severe parking problem; (4) discussed the basic precepts of
parking in the City, stating that the parking is for people visiting the City's business areas.
Mr. Wood continued and: (1) said that there are ways to solve the parking problems in the City;
(2) said that the way to reduce density is to zone more areas commercial; (3) discussed the
configuration of the City's commercial areas; (4) noted that most of the lots in the City are very
small; (5) explained that the applicant is a very well-known doctor who has many patients
from out of state, who do not even drive to the office; rather, they are picked up and driven to
the office.
Mr. Wood went on and: (1) stated that the applicant needs additional room for record storage;
(2) noted that the applicant has no desire to expand his business, and he is willing to sign a
document attesting to that fact; (3) commented that the applicant and several of his employees
do not drive to work; (4) stated that the applicant is willing to do anything to have this project
approved; (5) said that the automobile rules everyone's lives in this day and age; (6) said that the
applicant will help the City solve its parking problem.
Mr. Wood went on and: (1) asked that the Planning Commission designate a subcommittee to
discuss the options with himself and the applicant; (2) said that the applicant will be in
business for another 15 years, and he is sincerely attempting to solve his problem as well as
help the City's parking problem; (3) stressed that Hermosa Beach businesses cannot provide
'parking _ on-site and be competitive with other local businesses; (4) stressed that parking must
be provided without the use of conventional methods; (5) noted that there are parking problems
only on the weekends and in the summer.
Mr. Wood continued and: (1) suggested that flexible methods be implemented to attack the
parking problems; (2) said that if the City wants to improve the parking, parking districts
should be provided throughout the commercial areas on lots as they become available; (3)
discussed the concept of buying lots for use as parking; (4) again raised the issue of his meeting
with a Planning Commission subcommittee to tackle the parking problem.
Comm. Marks asked what proposals have been submitted related to the parking for this
proposed project.
Mr. Wood stated that: (1) the applicant will guarantee that a specified number of his employees
will not drive to the site; (2) it is impossible to expect patients to park in the rear of this site; (3)
all four of the existing parking spaces will be left for patient use, and the spaces will be
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patrolled: (4) every step will be taken to ensure that patients will not park on the street: (5) the
applicant is very interested in reaching a compromise as to the parking.
Mr. Wood went on and: (1) stated that patients could be picked up and shuttled to the business:
(2) said people could be required to sign affidavits stating that they will not drive to the office.
Comm. Marks noted that the area is already very congested, and the proposed expansion
without the required additional parking would exacerbate the problem.
Mr. Wood stated that if clients do park in the other business' parking spaces, the other property
owner will complain, and tickets could then be issued to violators.
Comm. Marks suggested that Mr. Wood contact a parking specialist to address the parking
problem for this business. to which Mr. Wood countered that the solution is to provide remote
parking for the business.
Mr. Wood stated that the applicant can control his employees: therefore, enforcement is
somewhat easier. He stated that covenants can be placed on the property to ensure compliance.
He stressed that innovative solutions must be implemented in the City.
Comm. Marks again urged Mr. Wood to consult a parking consultant to address the problem of
having a certain amount of space and only a certain amount of parking space. He felt that a
request for a 70 percent expansion without providing additional parking is not appropriate.
Mr. Wood stated that many other businesses in town do not have the required parking. He said
that in order for businesses to succeed in the City, innovative parking arrangements must be
considered. He felt that the answer lies in providing remote parking.
Mr. Wood, in response to questions from Comm. Rue, stated that, for whatever reasons,
patients will simply not park in the rear.
Dr. Johnston, owner of the property next to the proposed project site, addressed the
Commission an<;l: ( 1) explained that. contrary to Mr. Wood's assertion, there is no professional
jealousy between him and the applicant, stating that on occasion he has even loaned medical
equipment to Dr. David; (2) stated that the proposed second-story addition would have a serious
financial impact on his business: (3) said that Dr. David's practice has grown tremendously
over the years: (4) explained that his is the only building on the street with a sideyard; (5) stated
that for some reason people do not want to travel down the sideyard to park in the rear.
Dr. Johnston continued and: (1) noted that Dr. David's property has no sideyard, therefore,
people will not drive around to the back and then walk to the front of the building: (2) stressed
that there is no jealously here; his main objection relates to the financial impacts to his
business; (3) said that many of his patients are elderly and in pain and are not able to park a
distance away and walk to the office; (4) noted concern over enforcement of innovative parking
arrangements. such as valet service and/or shuttle service to the office; (5) noted concern over
the fact that the business could be sold, and the new owner may not want to utilize valet
parking; (6) said that he was contemplating selling his business to another doctor, however. the
other doctor decided against the purchase due to the lack of parking in the area: (7) stressed that
parking is a problem all the time in this area.
Parker Herriott, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) stated that even in the
evening there is a parking shortage in the area of the proposed project; (2) concurred with staffs
recommendation to deny this request; (3) urged the Commission to use the same reasoning that
was used when this project was previously denied; (4) stated that there is nothing wrong with
trying to improve one's property. however. the required parking should be provided, possibly
underground: (5) noted that the proper parking is not available for the proposed project.
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Jim Lissner, 2715 El Oeste, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and: (1) questioned
what will happen if this project were approved and the current owner sold the property: (2)
stressed that the proper parking must be provided, either through the use of car stackers or
through the demolition of the ground floor of the building so that it could be used for parking.
Gerry Compton, 200 Pier Avenue , Hermos a Beach, addressed the Commission and: ( 1) agreed
that innovative parking methods must be utilized to mitigate the severe parking problems in
the City: (2) stated that it might make sense to try an innovation in this case: (3) stressed the
importance of making the commercial areas viable , noting that businesses provide most of the
taxes that maintain the infrastructure of the City: (4) discussed various methods by which the
parking problems could be addressed: (5) discussed the project at hand, stating that the
applicant might reduce the size of t he proposed addition, or he might consider the use of triple
stackers.
Mr . Wood stated that there is a back door at the applicant's office, and people could use that
entrance if so desired. He encouraged the Commission to form a subcommittee to meet with
him to address the parking problem for this proposed project. He stressed that he is trying to
take positive steps in regard to this project.
Public Hearing closed at 8:50 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz .
Comm. Rue agreed that there are severe parking problems in this City. He addressed Mr. Wood's
suggestion that the Commission designate a subcommittee to find a solution for this project's
parking problems and stated that the Chamber of Commerce has formed a committee to
address parking concerns and the VPD is taking steps also. He stated that he does not have the
time to sit on another committee to address this applicant's problems. He did agree, however,
that something must be done about the problem.
Comm. Rue stated that the purpose of the Commission is not to serve as deal brokers: rather,
they are a planning body. He wanted to see parking improvements and stated that he would
lend his support: however, he felt it is inappropriate for the applicant to ask the
Commissioners to spend additional time on this project. He suggested that the applicant
present a concrete proposal which can be addressed by the Commission.
Comm. Peirce felt it would not be appropriate to allow businesses to expand without providing
parking. He stated that most "innovative" solutions are only short-term remedies. He felt that
long-term parking solutions must be accomplished by the City. He stated that maintaining a
parking plan over a number of years is not feasible.
Comm. Aleks stated that it is not appropriate to allow this business to expand without
providing additional parking, noting that there is already a severe parking problem in this
area. He felt that a parking plan would be difficult to enforce. Therefore, he could not support
approval of this project.
Chmn. Ketz felt that long-term specific solutions are necessary for this area, ,u1d she did not
feel that the proposed parking plan would be a long-term solution.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91 -3, denying the parking plan request at 415 Pier Avenue.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks , Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to direct staff to send a letter to the VPD
and Chamber of Commerce requesting that parking updates be sent to the Commission. The
letter should also indicate the Commission's concerns and interest in this matter, and the fact
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that the Commission lends its support to the program. The Commissions' interest relates
specifically to the downtown area, Pacific Coast Highway, Pier Avenue, and Hermosa Avenue.
No objections; so ordered.
Recess taken from 8:59 P.M. until 9:08 P.M.
CUP 90-24 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ADULT VIDEOS AND FOR OFF-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AT AN EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT ALREADY LICENSED BY THE A.B.C. AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 400 PIER AVENUE,
COAST LIQUOR
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended approval of the
requested conditional use permit, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed
resolution.
This project is located in a SPA zone, with a general plan designation of general commercial.
The lot size is 10,324 square feet. The building size is 4085 square feet. The current use is as a
preexisting liquor store and mini convenience store. There are 14 parking spaces (shared with
the 'The Laundry Basket" laundromat).
Coast Liquor is located on the northeast comer of Pacific Coast Highway and 4th Street. It
shares the building with one other business, a laundromat, occupying 60 percent of the
building space. The liquor store is open from 7:30 AM. until 12:00 AM. during the week and
until 2:00 AM. on the weekends.
Coast Liquor is one of the remaining existing businesses selling alcoholic beverages which has
not obtained a conditional use permit subject to the alcohol amortization ordinance.
At their meeting of November 8, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration and recommended that the Planning
Commission require the applicant/ owner to place the refuse cans inside an enclosure and to
reduce window signage to the maximum of 20 percent. They also advised the owner that hard
core pornography would not be allowed and because of past AB.C. violations, it was requested
that the owner participate in the EASY Program.
The requested CUP would authorize the continued general alcohol sales, and if approved would
allow the sale of adult videos and magazines.
Staffs concerns relative to the video sales are major in nature. The proposed use of a liquor
store/video sales could be a dangerous trend for wholesale opening of these types of businesses
to mixed usage in establishments that service neighborhoods. Because of the proximity to
residences, within one hundred feet, and the possible availability to minors for sale, it is felt
by staff that this is not a proper mix of businesses. Also, Section 10-5 of the zoning ordinance
states the sale of adult videos should be greater than 100 feet from residential property. Staff
has no intention of infringing on first amendment rights, but feels such usage is inappropriate.
According to the City Attorney, since the proposed video sales are only a small portion of the
business, incidental to alcohol sales, the City does not have the authority to deny the sales. As
such. staff recommended that the video sales must remain incidental to the liquor
store/convenience store and should not represent more than 10 percent of the sales.
Since this is an existing mini market/ general alcohol sale business, staff felt that the sale of
alcohol should be allowed to continue. subject to the proposed conditions which are limited to
standard conditions of the zoning ordinance and conditions related to the trash and the
signage. The standard conditions include a provision to require that single containers be sold
in clear bags. Also, the Police Department has requested that an additional standard
condition be included to require alcohol sale establishments to participate in the EASY
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Program. Finally, staff did not endorse the mixed usage and felt that video sales in a liquor
store is inappropriate.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Chmn. Ketz, explained that this business is
within 100 feet of residential usage: however, according to State law, the p r oposed sale of
videos does not constitute an "adult" use, which is prohibited within 100 feet of residential
areas. He explained that an "adult" business devotes most of its sales to "adult" materials; this
business does not. The City, therefore, cannot condition this business as an "adult"
establishment.
Mr. Schubach, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce related to the signage, stated that
some of the signs have been removed at Coast Liquor. •
Comm. Peirce noted concern over excessive signage at other businesses, and he hoped that the
code will be enforced in regard to signs at this business.
Public Hearing opened at 9 :14 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Patterson, 400 Pacific Coast Highway, addressed the Commission and stated that he has
read the conditions and has no objection to them. He also noted that the signage is now in
compliance with the City's requirements. He further stated that he will comply with the EASY
Program requirements.
Debbie Lube, 843 3rd Street. Hermosa Beach, noted concern over the proliferation of adult uses
along Pacific Coast Highway. She felt that it is not appropriate to allow adult materials to be
sold in areas which are so close to residential areas.
Jim Lissner, 2715 El Oeste, Hermosa Beach, suggested that the Commission regulate the hours
of businesses of this type in order to discourage such use. He felt that adult businesses are not
in the best interests of the City.
Public Hearing closed at 9:18 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Mr. Yoshinaga, in response to questions from Comm. Peirce related to regulation of the hours
of operation, stated that the hours of operation for a business of this type can be regulated.
Comm. Rue, noting that he is not an advocate of X-rated movies, stated that it is important.
however, to acknowledge first amendment rights. He stated that the proposed conditions
address the concerns of staff: therefore, he could support approval of the request.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staff's -recommendation,
Resolut~on P .C. 91-2, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated that this decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by writing
to the City Council within ten days.
CUP 90-26 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN
CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 1605 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY. MONKEE'S RESTAURANT
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended approval of the
requested CUP, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
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This project is located in SPA 8, with a general plan designation of commercial corridor. The
lease space size is 3600 square feet inside and 1438 square feet outside. The current use is as a
restaurant under construction.
The proposed restaurant is located within the Hermosa Pavilion on the second level, which is
the same level as the theaters. The parking requirements for the entire Pavilion are subject to
a parking plan. This space was originally identified for restaurant purposes.
At their meeting of August 9, 1990, the staff environmental review committee recommended an
environmental negative declaration and further recommended that a condition be included to
require that the outside dining area be clearly separated from the outdoor public areas to
prevent pass-through of alcoholic beverages.
The requested CUP would authorize the sale of beer and wine and spirits for consumption on
the premises. subject to the standard conditions of the zoning ordinance. The applicant will
also apply to the State A.B.C. Department for a license.
The floor plans show that a small bar area is included for seating of patrons waiting for a table
and would also allow for non-dining customers to purchase a beverage.
Staff has no concerns related to the existing appearance or operation of the business that
would necessitate any further conditions than the standard conditions required for this type of
CUP. Those conditions include the restriction that at least 50 percent of the gross sales must be
from prepared foods (a maximum of 50 percent for alcohol sales). Staff also recommended a
condition that a permanent structure be installed to separate the outside dining area from the
public area.
The business is contained inside the existing mall, and the applicant has indicated that the
hours of operation would be from 11:00 A.M. to midnight on weekdays, and until 1:00 A.M. on
weekends. Staff further recommended a condition to limit the operation to these requested
hours.
Staff recommended approval of the request because this area, unlike the downtown area. is not
considered to be heavily impacted by a saturation of alcohol establishments, and adequate
parking is available. Also, the primary function of the business would be as a restaurant
which fits in with the original designation for this floor within the Pavilion. Additionally.
the mall maintains its own security patrol during its operating hours: therefore, additional
police patrol should not be necessary.
Comm. Aleks, explaining that he lives within 300 feet of the project site, stated that he would
abstain from discussion on this item.
Public Hearing opened at 9:25 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Dee Harris, property manager of the Pavilion, addressed the Commission and: (1) stated that
the Pavilion has its own security and parking area on site; (2) stated that, at the request of the
City, a plexiglass wall will be built around the patio dining area: (3) noted that signs will be
posted advising that the patio area is only for use by Monkee's patrons: (4) explained that
Monkee's is a four-star Chinese restaurant with two other locations in Southern California; (5)
stated that patrons must enter through the restaurant itself in order to get to the patio dining
area; (6) explained that the door shown on the plans is for exit purposes only on the patio; (7)
commented on the bar area, noting that the applicant has not stated that the bar is absolutely
necessary, however, the other locations have a bar so that people can have a drink while
waiting for their table.
Public Hearing closed at 9:28 P.M. by Chmn Ketz.
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Comm. Peirce favored a quality restaurant corning in to the City: however, he noted concern
over the separate bar area and questioned whether the City really needs another bar as part of a
restaurant. He stated that he would have no opposition if the bar served only beer and wine;
however, he objected to a bar with a substantial number of seats selling hard liquor. He did not
feel such a use would be appropriate at the Pavilion.
Comm. Rue noted that many other restaurants in mall areas have general alcohol sales. He did
not feel that the bar area is that large, and he noted that the applicant has restaurant
experience at other locations. He said that most upscale restaurants do have bars, and he could
therefore support approval of the request. He felt that it is important to make this center a
success.
Comm. Marks noted that bars are an integral part of a restaurant's business: he therefore did
not feel it would be appropriate to manipulate this business. He stated that he has been to
another Monkee's, and it is a very nice establishment.
Chmn. Ketz agreed that a bar is an integral part of a nice restaurant, especially when people are
waiting to be seated at a table.
Comm. Peirce pointed out that the resolution allows 50 percent alcohol sales. He felt that for
an occasional use, 50 percent seems to be a high percentage.
Mr. Schubach explained that 50 percent is a standard condition for hard liquor: beer and wine
sales are allowed to be a maximum of 35 percent of the total sales. He stated that the
percentages were suggested by the AB.C.
Comm. Peirce felt that 50 percent is excessive.
Comm. Rue stated that this establishment could not be construed as a full-scale bar.
Comm. Peirce noted the long hours of operation, and he did not feel most people would be
dining after 10:00 P.M. He noted concern that people would be corning in late and ordering only
drinks.
Comm. Rue shared Comm. Peirce's concerns: however, he stated that this is an upscale
restaurant, and he did not feel it constitutes a full-scale bar.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-4, as written.
AYES :
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Peirce
Comm. Aleks
None
CUP 90-27 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ON-SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
AT 1559 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, BROOKLYN BRICK OVEN PIZZA
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 26, 1990, and recommended approval of the
requested CUP, subject to the conditions specified in the proposed resolution.
This project is located in SPA 8, with a general plan designation of general commercial. The
lease space size is 1500 square feet, and its current use is as a restaurant.
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The restaurant is located within Plaza Hermosa in building "C" on the first level below the
Warehouse. The restaurant occupies the space that was initially Bagel Buddies, which was
allowed because the center has more than adequate parking for the mix of uses.
At their meeting of November 8, 1990, the staff environmental review committee
recommended an environmental negative declaration.
The requested CUP would authorize the sale of beer and wine and/ or consumption on the
premises, subject to the standard conditions of the zoning ordinance. The applicant will also
need to apply to the State AB.C. Department for a license.
Staff had no concerns related to the existing appearance or operation of the business that
would necessitate any further conditions than the standard conditions required for this type of
CUP. Those conditions include the restriction that at least 65 percent of the gross sales must be
from prepared foods, and a maximum of 35 percent from the sale of beer and wine.
The location is part of an existing shopping center, and the applicant has indicated that the
hours will be from 11:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M. on weekdays and until 11:00 P.M. on weekends.
Staff also recommended a condition to limit the hours of operation to these requested times.
Staff recommended approval of the request because this area, unlike the downtown area, is not
considered to be heavily impacted by a saturation of alcohol establishments. Also, plenty of
adequate parking is available. Additionally, the primary function of the business would still
be as a restaurant, which fits in with the original plans for Plaza Hermosa.
Staff noticed that the restaurant occasionally places tables up on the sidewalk in front of the
restaurant. This would not be permitted, as it blocks the sidewalk which is necessary for
pedestrian access. As such, staff included a condition prohibiting outside seating and/or
outside service of alcoholic beverages.
Comm. Aleks, explaining that he lives within 300 feet of the project site, stated that he would
abstain from discussion on this item.
Public Hearing opened at 9:39 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Robert Udovich, 535 Gravely Court, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission and
stated that he has no opposition to the proposed conditions as recommended by staff.
Public Hearing closed at 9:40 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Comm. Rue noted that this business has been in operation for more than a year, and he wished
the app),icant success.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staffs recommendation,
Resolution P.C. 91-5, as written.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None •
Comm. Aleks
None
Chmn. Ketz noted that Mr. Habash (applicant for Agenda Item 6) was now present in the
audience at this time.
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CUP 90-25 -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO DETAILING AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 825 PACIFIC COAST IIlGHWAY, HABASH
AUTO DETAILING (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF DECEMBER 4, 1990)
(This matter was heard earlier in the meeting. See Page 2.)
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to reconsider the public hearing held on
this matter.
Comm. Aleks expressed concern that this matter is being reopened at this time, noting that
someone had left council chambers after the item was voted upon earlier in the meeting. He
stated that it is possible that public testimony would have been given had the person known
that the matter was going to be reopened.
Mr. Yoshinaga stated that this matter can be continued to a future date and renoticed so that
interested citizens can be available to provide public testimony. As an alternative, the
Commission can stand on the decision made earlier in the meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated that, if the Commission decides to reopen and continue this hearing, the
applicant would have to pay for postage and paper for the renoticing. The applicant would not,
however, have to pay another hearing fee.
(VOTE ON MOTION TO RECONSIDER:)
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to continue this public hearing to the
meeting of February 5, 1991, with the matter to be renoticed (costs for postage and paper to be
paid by the applicant). No objections: so ordered. •
MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEW AT 555 PACIFIC COAST IIlGHWAY
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated December 27, 1990, and recommended that the Planning
Commission direct staff to strictly enforce the conditions of the subject conditional use
permit.
Between August 15, 1989, a.-id December 14, 1989, the Plannh,g Commission considered this
CUP. One of the 29 conditions imposed by the Commission specified that there be an annual
and a mid-year review. Staff continued by outlining the findings of the inspection.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Aleks, to direct £taff to strictly enforce the
conditions of the subject conditional use permit.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Aleks, Marks, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
a) Memorandum Re2ardln2 City Council/Plannln4 Commission Workshop
The dates of February 21 and February 28 were suggested for the workshop.
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Topics suggested for discussion included downtown business parking; an update on RUDAT
activities: and where people in the City are going, as related to the transportation issue.
b) P~ Department Activity Report for November 1990
No action taken.
c) Memorandum Regarding Plannlm! Commission Liaison for January 8. 1991. Meetlru!
No one will attend as liaison.
d) Tentative Future Plannlru! Commission Agenda
No action taken.
e) City Council Minutes of November 27. 1990
No action taken.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Rue suggested that a letter be sent to the City Council advising them of the poor sound
quality over the cable transmissions.
Comm. Rue asked for an update on the City's recycling activities, to which Mr. Schubach
responded. He also explained that the recycling program is overseen by the Building
Department.
MOTION by Comm. Aleks, seconded by Comm. Rue. to adjourn at 10:05 P.M . No objections: so
ordered. •
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record ·of the action
taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of January 2, 1991.
Christine Ketz, Chairman
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Michael Schubach, Secretary
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