HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1991_07_16MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JULY 16, 1991, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by chmn. Ketz.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
comms. Di Monda, Marks, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
comm. Peirce
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant city Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording secretary
After being welcomed to the Commission by Chmn. Ketz, Commissioner stifano
stated he would be abstaining from the July 2, 1991 minutes.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. stifano to approve the following
consent calendar items:
Minutes of the July 2, 1991 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 91-43, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION
13-7 (B) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NON-
CONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 167 ARDMORE AVENUE
AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 15, TRACT NO. 256.
Resolution P.C. 91-44, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW OFF-
SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A CONVENIENCE MARKET, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR 635 MONTEREY BOULEVARD, LE MASTER'S
GROCERY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 2, TRACT NO. 864.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, stifano, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Peirce
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mr. Richard Sullivan, Third street, commented upon comm. Rue's remarks in the
Easy Reader, stating city council may create as many Planning Commissions as it
deems necessary. Mr. Sullivan stated the ways in which to set policy are
through the city council and the Initiative process.
PUBLIC BEARING
CUP 90-36 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO SALES AND DETAILING, AND AUTO
REPAIR (SMOG CHECK ONLY) AT 303 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, CONSTANTINE'S.
Recommended Action: To continue to August 6, 1991 Planning commission meeting
(improperly noticed).
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Mr. Schubach stated staff would assure notices are issued correctly.
No one wished to address the commission regarding this matter. Chmn. Ketz
stated CUP 90-36 would be heard by the commission on August 6, 1991.
CUP 91-10 TO CONSIDER REVOCATION OR MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT LOCATED AT 1160 AVIATION
BLVD., JACK IN THE BOX.
Recommended Action: To approve the modified conditional Use Permit per
conditions contained in P.C. Resolution 91-45.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends approval of the modified conditional use
Permit with several new conditions added. Jack In The Box is an existing
business with commercial-land use to the north, east and west, and residential
land use to the south. complaints have been received by Mr. Schubach,
resulting in direction to staff for investigation, presentation of a Resolution
of Intent, and setting of a hearing. staff felt posting of signs would
aggravate the current situation. site review did not find excessive noise, but
the parking lot is inadequate to handle drive-thru traffic. staff believes a 90
degree parking with two-way traffic could be incorporated and, as a condition
of approval, requires this issue to be addressed with submittal to the Planning
Dept. of alternate plans. Additional landscaping will be required within 90
days of approval of the Planning Director. Area residents submitted to Staff a
videotape indicating noise nuisance at Jack In The Box.
Mr. Schubach said staff recommends a reevaluation of hours of operation limited
those hours and decreasing speaker-box volume as conditions of approval.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:12 p.m.
Mr. Phil Singerman, 1224 E. Catella, orange, requested a meeting with staff,
neighbors, and police dept. representative to discuss the concerns,
implementing these suggestions and conducting a 6-month results review. Mr.
Singerman discussed various actions being taken by Jack In The Box management
and its willingness to work with others. He discussed the history and finances
of this business location, challenging some statements made by residents.
Chmn. Ketz questioned the closure time of the diningroom, _to which Mr.
Singerman explained security and cleaning requirements. comm. Di Monda asked
if Mr. Singerman disagreed with more than one of the 10 conditions. Mr.
Singerman disagrees with two conditions. • comm. Marks asked the volume of
business done during nighttime hours, to which Mr. Singerman stated.10%, which
is about 50% of income.
A videotape taken from a resident's private home was shown to the commission
and audience.
Mr. Raymond Leathers, 1225 11th Place, disagreed with Mr. Singerman's
statements and discussed the business operating hours, noise levels and police
assistance activities.
Mr. Don oleski, 1249 11th Place, explained the circumstances when he took the
videotape which was shown and questioned the manner of receiving residents'
input, to which Mr. Schubach responded petitions had been received.
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Mr. Jim Hallead, 1221 11th Place, stated the current conditional Permit use is
outdated and inadequate. He discussed current and suggested business operating
hours, noise levels, the Planning Commission's Report findings and conditions
being experienced by residents.
Mr. Richard Sullivan, Third street, expressed his realization of the difficulty
of the problem being discussed and suggested that Jack In The Box hire a noise
consultant.
Ms. Sylvia schular, 1210 11th Place, stated residents are trying to work with
Jack In The Box, but still wish them to close two hours earlier.
Mr. Joe Flannagan, 1230 Harper, stated every Friday and Saturday, residents are
waken by noise from Jack In The Box.
Mr. Singerman stated opening the diningroom may solve part of the problem and
reiterated the changes that the management has made to accommodate the
residents, asking for a joint meeting. Chmn. Ketz, comms. Di Monda, Marks and
Mr. Singerman discussed the number of employees working during the evening,
on-site management, security measures, noise pollution, customer controls and
reduction of business hours vs. financial impacts.
Mr. Singerman introduced Messrs. Mian and Graffius, Jack-In-The-Box corp.
management, who stated the Company is willing to cooperate as much as possible,
but does not wish to shorten business hours due to financial considerations.
Public Hearing closed by chmn. Ketz at 8:10 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda felt the problem is the drive-thru and that portion should have
the business hours reduced, to which chmn. Ketz agreed, suggesting an
additional review in three months. comm. Marks suggested a shorter review
period. comm. stifano suggested the owners contact the police when problems
appear.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks, to approve staff
recommendation with a change of hours of operation to 12:00 p.m. Sunday through
Thursday and 2:00 a.m. Friday and Saturday, drive-thru por ti~n must close at
11:00 p.m., with a three-month or sooner review by the commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conans. Di Monda, Marks and Cbmn. Ketz
Conan. Stifano
None
Conan. Peirce
A recess was taken from 8:17 to 8:27 p.m.
TEXT AMENDMENT 90-11 TO REQUIRE RELOCATION IMPACT REPORTS (RIR) FOR MOBILE
HOME PARK CONVERSIONS OR CLOSURES TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF DISPLACING EXISTING
RESIDENTS.
Recommended Action: To approve P.C. Resolution 91-41 recommending to city
Council a text amendment to zoning Ordinance to require RIR for mobile home
park conversions or closures and adoption of an Environment Negative
Declaration.
Mr. Schubach presented Staff Report, stating this matter was continued from
June 18, 1991. The city of Carson was contacted pertaining to its requirements
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relating to its mobile home park conversions and closures, and any current
litigation, which Mr. Schubach discussed. coastal zone Provisions was sourced,
with information being supplied to the commission. Various local cities and
mobile home parks were contacted regarding this subject, with the results being
presented by Mr. Schubach. He noted it is the responsibility of applicant to
demonstrate applicable provisions are met or exemption qualification. staff
believes it appropriate to use the broad definition of mobile homes as proposed
in the ordinance, rather than the narrow one of the Civil Code, to allow
consideration for at least minimal compensation for displacement of residents
who have been in a single location for an extended period. compensation will
be based upon resident investment, type of vehicle and site improvements.
Mr. Schubach stated a general concept is the concern of the Planning Commis-
sion, recommending approval of this recommendation, with the proviso if changes
are necessary based upon Legality ordinance, this will be considered by the
city council. Comm. stifano and Mr. Lee discussed existing guidelines to
establish mobile home value. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Lee discussed appraiser
retention and cost payment responsibility. Chmn. Ketz, Comm. Di Monda and Mr.
Schubach discussed tenant/owner eligibility for relocation reimbursement.
Comm. Di Monda, Messrs. Lee and Schubach discussed proposal language
clarification.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:46 p.m.
Ms. Marie Horowitz, Marineland Mobile Home Park, space 15, commented upon the
compensation expressed by the Ordinance. She discussed the methods of
intimidation to tenants by the park owners.
Mr. Bill Cloud, 531 Pier Avenue, discussed the devaluation of mobilehomes due
to rent increases, inferior mobile home park maintenance, and asked for rent
control consideration. chmn. Ketz stated the hearing addresses only a change
in status of the mobile home park, not rent.
Ms. Mary Tyson, Marineland Mobile Home
devaluation of her mobile home, rent
subjected to threats and intimidation
commission for protection.
Park, discussed the
increases. she felt
by the park owners
financing and
she has been
and asked the
Joan stoner, Arcadia, representative from Golden state Mobile owners' League,
Regional Manager for Los Angeles county, discussed experiences of ex-tenants of
closed mobile home parks, leases and questioned park closure current practice.
Ms. Stoner stated G.S.M.O.L. currently re t ains l awyers and lobbiest state-wide.
Ms. Mary Christine Pitka, 943 Boundary Place, compared what is happening to
tenants to past experiences of flight attendants. Ms. Pi tko 's • mother is
currently living in a mobile home park. Ms. Pitko stated concern for the
elderly who will be displaced.
Ms. Margaret c. Rathman, 40+ year owner(s) of Hermosa Trailer Court, stated she
received no June 18, 1991 meeting notice. She questioned on-site value and
compensation for only low and moderate income households, stating no other type
of land development is penalized as will be park owners. Ms. Rathman stated
she and her husband adamantly object to Resolution 91-41 in its present form
and concur with all objections priorly presented by legal council for
Marineland Mobile Horne Park, including the definition of a mobile home. she
defined specific past experiences with tenants including the tenants' financial
status. stating her park has 19 spaces of which 90% is R.V.'s, her concern is
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owners will be required to subsidize tenants who are in a higher tax bracket
than the owners. Mr. Schubach stated the commission's action is to establish
clarity and is based on state law, which requires a Relocation Impact Report.
Also, the commission cannot require only low and moderate income families to be
considered under the R.I.R.
Mr. Lou Riesek, 531 Pier Avenue, #10, complimented Mrs. Rathman for operating a
park with a viewpoint toward owner/tenant partnership. He discussed the city
of Hermosa Beach's stated future plans to maintain a mobile home park at the
Marineland Mobile Home Park location and asked the City to adhere to these past
commitments. He discussed park management's harassment of current and
prospective homeowners. Mr. Riesek suggested the verbiage of the Resolution,
Section 9B should be, "to compare fair market value to condos of equal number
of bedrooms," rather than square footage.
Ms. Liza Lueke, Space #6 0, a 5-year resident, bought her mobile home as an
investment which has been devaluated. she discussed park management harass-
ment of tenants and the problems and requirements of relocation, urging
ad~ption of the R.I.R.
Public Hearing was closed by chmn. Ketz at 9:39 p.m.
comm. Di Monda discussed the definition of a mobile home, stating preference to
grandfather owners of R. v. 's current location in parks, maintain concurrence
with state and County mobile home definition, not allow additional R.V.'s in an
mobile home parks. He also explained the problems associated with rent con-
trol and suggested city council review of land-lease options by tenants. Mr.
Lee explained Section 1445, Paragraph 7 in response to a question by comm.
Di Monda, suggesting that Para. 7, Line 3 be changed to: after "payment, " "in
lieu of physical relocation which shall consider the fair market value of the
mobile home," appraisal of mobile home vs. comparable abode replacement in
lump-sum payment computation. comm. stifano asked if rental amount would be
considered into the value, to which Mr. Lee responded although mobile-home land
rental is unique, all should be considered within the appraisal process. comm.
Di Monda requested further explanation of the appraisal processes.
Chmn. Ketz felt compensation to renters of mobile homes discriminates against
other permanent-residence renters in the city. Mr. Schubach stated state law
would have to be reexamined when taking this into consideration. chmn. Ketz,
comm. Marks, Messrs. Lee and Schubach discussed State law relating to senior
citizen and other-citizen relocation.
MOTION by comm. Di Monda, seconded by comm. Marks to continue to September 3,
1991 meeting, for which staff is to obtain language changes and clarification
based upon the appraisal.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
CoJIUlls. Di Monda, Marks, Stifano and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
CoJIUll. Peirce
SPECIAL STUDY REGARDING ADULT USES.
Recommended Action: To direct staff to study this issue further:
a. determine a floor percentage amount in definition of adult use.
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b. obtain a legal opinion to determine if the distance standard from
residential areas, public facilities, etc. to adult uses does not
interfere with First Amendment rights.
Mr. Schubach requested further time to conduct a study by staff.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by chmn. Ketz, to direct staff to study
adult uses.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Stifano and cbmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Peirce
W-2 WATER CONSERVATION: STATUS REPORT RE: INSTALLATION OF GREY WATER
SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY IN RELATION TO BUILDING CODES.
Recommended Action: To receive and file, and to direct staff to report back to
the Planning commission on L.A. County and L.A. City's programs to allow use of
grey water systems, if and when they are initiated.
Mr. Schubach stated during the June 17, 1991 meeting, Planning commission
requested further information. The Building and safety Director was contacted,
who indicated he would not allow a modification to a plumbing system which
created a grey-water system. The L.A. county Dept. Environmental Health als_o
stated plumbing system changes to allow grey water is not allowed. Santa
Barbara and San Luis Obispo were also contacted, which encourage grey water
systems, with restrictions. Mr. Schubach then discussed local implementation
requirements and concerns.
Receive and file.
STAFF ITEMS
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR JULY 23, 1991 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
chmn. Ketz stated parking in the parkway areas will be discussed at this
meeting.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
comm. Di Monda asked the status of the greenbelt parking lot issue, to which
Mr. Schubach stated he would contact Public Works as to status.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF JUNE 25, 1991.
chmn. Ketz stated commission had received these minutes the evening of July 16,
1991.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda discussed the commission's prior decision to ask city council to
consider restricting parking-lot hours. Mr. Schubach stated staff will have
available an analysis and memorandum directed to city council at the next
scheduled meeting of the Commission.
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Mr. Lee, responding to comm. Di Manda's previous request, stated a licensed
architect need not present at the presentation of plans before the Planning
Commission as long as plans have been signed by an authorized professional.
comm. Di Monda asked for further information concerning basements for down-
zoning purposes from staff. Mr. Schubach stated this is to be discussed during
the Housing Improvement Program which still may be on line after the next
election, staff is currently checking plans received carefully to assure the
definition is being carried out. comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the
specifics of the Zoning Code.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to adjourn at 10:28 P.M.
Ho ohjections1 so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record
of the action taken by the Planning commission of Hermosa Beach at the
regularly scheduled meeting of July 16, 1991.
Date
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