HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1992_07_21MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY
-OF HERMOSA-BEACH HELD ON JULY 21, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:06 P.M. by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Marks.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Marks, Oakes, Suard and Vice-Chmn.
Di Monda
Chmn. Merl
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Lynn Terry, Deputy City Engineer
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Wilma Burt, Hermosa Beach, requested that the following be pulled:
Resolution P.C. 92-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-(b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 1015
4TH STREET.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to AP~ROVE the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the July 7, 1992 Planning Commission meeting
POLICY STATEMENT P.C. 92-2, A POLICY STATEMENT OF "THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, INTERPRETING A
DO-IT-YOURSELF BREWERY AS A HOBBY SUPPLY BUSINESS AND THEREFORE AS
A PERMITTED USE IN COMMERCIAL ZONES. •
Resolution P.C. 92-33, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, OF INTENT TO INITIATE A TEXT
AMENDMENT TO ADD "DO-IT-YOURSELF BREWERY" AS A PERMITTED USE AND TO
ADD DEFINITIONS OF DO-IT-YOURS BREWERY AND HOBBY SUPPLY.
Resolution P.C. 92-35, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST TO ALLOW
EXPANSION AND REMODELING TO TWO UNITS WHICH ARE NONCONFORMING TO
DENSITY, PARKING, AND SETBACKS, LOCATED AT 1616 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 92-37, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING-COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE
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PERMIT TO ALLOW ON-SALE BEER AND WINE AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IN
CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1100 PACIFIC COAS/l' HIGHWAY
#2, EL POLLO INKA.
Resolution P.C. 92-38, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW LIVE ENTERTAINMENT (LIVE MUSIC) AND
DANCING IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITH ON-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AT 2701 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, THE BEACH BOYS CLUB.
Resolution P.C. 92-41, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #21754, AND A PRECISE DEVEL-
OPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1010 17TH STREET
Resolution P.C. 92-42, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW A SNACK SHOP WITH LESS THAN REQUIRED PARKING, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1314 HERMOSA
AVENUE, THE SQUEEZE CUP.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Oakes and Suard
None
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Chmn. Merl
Wilma Burt, Hermosa Beach, asked if part of the open space was to
be the garage roof top. She stated the Council had objected
another project which had part of the open space on top of the
garage. She objected to allowing this project to have a garage
open space allowance, since the same was not granted to others.
Comm. Oakes stated this project's garage open space was in addition
to the required amount. Mr. Schubach stated this project was a
nonconforming remodel, which can be out of conformance with regard
to open space, set backs, height, etc. and still go .~P to a 100%
increase. Ms. Burt felt this was not pertinent. Mr. Schubach
reiterated his statement, noting this was not a new construction.
Ms. Burt objected to Mr. Schubach's statements. Mr. Schubach
stated the applicant was not deleting, adding on, or making the
building more nonconforming than it currently is and no open space
was being deleted. He offered to review the plans with Ms. Burt.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda suggested Ms. Burt accept Mr. Schubach's
invitation to review the project's plans.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE the
following Consent Calendar item:
Resolution P.C. 92-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-(b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT-VALUE AT 1015
4TH STREET.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Oakes and Suard
None
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Chmn. Merl
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PDP 92-6 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WAIVER TO ALLOW THE
INSTALLATION OF A RELOCATABLE CLASSROOM AT 1645 VALLEY DRIVE,
HERMOSA VALLEY SCHOOL.
Recommended Action: To approve said Precise Development Plan and
Waiver.
Mr. Schubach stated the amendment was necessary for compliance with
Section 9.5-8, and a waiver was also required because the proposed
classrooms were only set back 15 feet. He described the proposed
location and noted the buildings would appear to be "temporary" in
appearance although they would be installed on permanent founda-
tions. Staff recommended approval with a condition relating to the
air conditioning unit's noise level. Comm. Marks discussed the
affiliation between the existing and proposed classroom buildings
with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:20 p.m.
John Nyberg, project architect, Newport Beach, presented
photographs of the existing classroom buildings. He stated it was
logical and less expensive to locate the proposed buildings next
the to current ones. Comm. Marks suggested relocation of the
proposed buildings in order to obtain a 15-feet set backs. Mr.
Nyberg stated the current buildings had the same set back as that
proposed. Comm. Marks objected to what would appear to be a "wall
of buildings". Mr. Nyberg felt the current location was the most
feasible in maintenance of expense and appearance. Comm. Oakes
objected to the two-foot separation between buildings, to which Mr.
Nyberg explained the manufacturer needed that space in order to
attach the proposed buildings without using a crane. Comm. Oakes
discussed with Mr. Nyberg the proposed six-foot plywood piece which
was to be placed between the buildings.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda closed the Public Hearing at 7:26 p.m.
Comm. Suard discussed with Staff the safety aspects of the plywood
piece located between the two buildings.
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MOTION by Comm. Marks to APPROVE PDP 92-6. The motion failed due
to the lack of a second.
Comm. Marks felt the project exhibited poor use of the property,
objecting to the proposed wall of buildings. Comm. Oaks agreed,
and requested a drawing that would display the appearance of the
plywood strip between the buildings. Mr. Schubach suggested the
"gap" be filled with a facade. Comm. Oaks suggested the applicant
work with the Planning Department, presenting a solution for this
"gap" as a condition of approval.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE PDP
92-6, with a condition that the applicant satisfy the Commission's
concerns by bringing to the Planning Department diagrams showing
how the expansion joints work between the two buildings.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Oakes, Suard and Vice Chmn. Di Monda •
Comm. Marks
None
Chmn. Merl
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated this item was approved, subject to
appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92-10 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING
AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP AT 900 AVIATION BOULEVARD, S & S AUTO-
MOTIVE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, noting the application was
submitted in accordance with the amortization ordinance, describing
the property and location, building and parking facilities and
hours of operation. He noted the applicant _stated the current
operation provides "minor" auto repair. Mr. Schubach commented
that the applicant's plans were not accurate to scale. On week
ends, the lot is used for overflow parking by the adjacent car
wash. He stated the business was not a source of major problems
and was compatible with surrounding uses. Staff's concerns related
to an over-abundance of wall signs and the lack of a ieparating
barrier. If the Commission desired landscaping, Staffed suggested
it be provided in conjunction with a barrier along the front
property line. Mr. Schubach defined the conditions suggested by
Staff and the hours of operation recommended by Staff. Comm. Suard
and Mr; Schubach discussed the difference in hours of operation
between the car wash and this application. Comm. Oakes and Mr.
Schubach discussed the signs, which were not in compliance with the
current sign ordinance. She suggested an area for planting and
commented upon the lot striping. Comm. Di Monda suggested the
large curb cut be replaced with a curb and, perhaps, a tree be
planted.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:40 p.m.
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Steve Urbanczyk, 900 Aviation, explained his understanding that he
only had to install a curb, remove most of the signs and contain
the garbage dumpster, to which he agreed. He stated he had only
seven parking spaces, discussing the measurements with Comm. Marks,
and stating the current parking was sufficient for his uses. Mr.
Lee clarified that the 10 1/2" length of the spaces, as marked in
the submitted plan, is not a legally recognized length within the
Code, and he would be asked to re-stripe these spaces. Mr.
Urbanczyk stated the car wash had striped them in compliance with
the Commission's request. He stated there was no room for any
plants at the curb area. He also noted that he would install a
six-inch curb, but many children would probably be hurt when
exiting the surfboard shop. He felt the curb would be dangerous.
Comm. Oakes suggested he plant vines on the north side of the
property. Comm. Di Monda confirmed the applicant agreed to the
recommended hours of operation.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda closed the Public Hearing at 7:47 p.m.
Comm. Suard felt the applicant should not be required to perform
expensive remodeling, but should clean up the signage.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, to APPROVE
CUP 92-10, as stated.
Mr. Lee, for a point of clarification, asked if this motLon had an
effect upon Condition No. 4 of the proposed CUP. It was determined
that Condition No. 4 would remain as is.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conun. Oakes, Suard and Vice Chmn. Di Monda
Comm. Marks
None
Chmn. Merl
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated this item was approved{ subject to
appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
TEXT 92-2 TEXT AMENDMENT TO LOWER THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT IN R-3
AND R-P ZONES AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARA-
TION.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment
and adoption of an Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff h·ad l?repared a draft Resolution to carry
out the directive of the Council and summarized the Resolution and
its impact to property owners. He then detailed other cities'
height limitations. Mr. Schubach stated the question before the
Commission was whether one method should apply in all cases or if
another criteria for determining if a project should -be allowed to
exceed 30 feet should be considered. Comm. Suard asked if Staff
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had an estimate of the number of reviews which would be required if
allowances for pitched roofs were not allowed, to which Mr.
Schubach responded, that in most cases, these situations are
currently reviewed.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:55 p.m.
Shirley Castle, Monterey Blvd., stated the audience could not hear
the Commissioners and commented that something should be done about
the sound system. She referenced a "Daily Breeze" article which
stated the U.S. Supreme Court had deemed that property owner's
could not have their property rights taken. She stated· the City
was taking away rights every time the properties were down zoned,
and referenced her own property as an example. Ms. Castle stated
no notices had been sent to R-3 owners, feeling this was an
injustice to the residents. She felt this meeting was not an open
hearing, because it was not being immediately televised. She
suggested that owners of R-3 property also sue, as was done in
North Carolina. She requested the Commission "stop the nonsense".
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, felt it was a disgrace that
Hermosa Beach had been taken off the air, feeling the cable company
had the resources to put "everyone" on television. He noted that
he was an unaffected observer who was concerned regarding unneces-
sary Code changes, such as this one. He felt the City did not
encourage any new construction, but encouraged an excessive
"renter" base. He felt new homes would revitalize the City, while
stating the current political system discouraged this type of
growth. He asked if this proposed action would encourage or
discourage poorly-maintained properties to be recycled. He
condemned the current political actions being taken within the
City, referencing in particular three City Council members. He
stated properties owners' rights were being taken away; the
proposal was not fair and suggested the proposal be printed in the
"Easy Reader". He felt this issue should be left alone and the
public should be notified of any proposed actions relating to this
issue. -
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Ste. 300, strenuously objected
to lowing the height limit without notification to all effected
property owners. He stated it would cost approximately $600 for
the mailing. He noted that many R-3 properties were currently
single-family home sites; a lot of people would be pushed into the
precise development plan for a single-family home. He felt the
report was not complete; feeling this item was a "bone to be thrown
to a Council that requires it," but not what the Council or Plan-
ning Department wanted. He expr~ssed his concerns relating to the
language, noting what could be read would not necessarily what
would be enforced, due to ambiguity of language.
Upon being asked by Vice-Chmn. for draft resolution specifics, Mr.
Compton noted the first "whereas", No. C., stating "compatible" is
ambiguous and without structure, which would result in a "hard
line" being taken. He questioned "majority" in Item (A),2), asking
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if this meant 50% +l, and Item (A), 4), asked who would be making
the determination. Mr. Compton stated the proposed resolution had
some good ideas, but the Planning Department had not been given
sufficient time to develop the resolution. He requested this issue
be continued.
Mary McGee, Manhattan Avenue, stated this down zoning would be a
"bag of worms". She discussed her plans to remodel, which was now
being changed. She suggested a design review board be established
and the height limit not be changed. Ms. McGee stated her strong
opposition to lowering of height limits. Comm. Oakes discussed
with Ms. McGee the location of her property and her remodeling
plans.
Gene Dier, 7th Place, stated he agreed with Mr. Longacre's
comments, requested that additional rules not be made. He stated
the City Council is taking aware the rights of property owners and
suggested the property owners get the right to fight back.
Larry Peha, 67 14th Street, discussed the ambiguous wording,
stating more guidance was needed. The stated a 30-feet height
limit would not reduce bulk.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. DiMonda at 8:22 p.m.
Comm. Oakes agreed with the speakers that the draft resolution
language should be clarified. She felt provision should be made to
allow property owners in the R-3 zone to build a single-family
dwelling without being required to appear before the Commission.
Mr. Schubach explained that a precise development plan was not
required for a single-family house if the height limitations were
being met. Comm. Oakes suggested that skylights be allowed to
exceed the 30-feet height limitation. Comm. Suard agreed with some
of the speakers. He stated it was better to have new homes and
better designs than height limits, but noted i;.hat too many people
would take advantage of maximum bulk. He felt the R-1 zone should
have been included in the review and this evaluation, to allow
homes within that area to build to the three-story limit.
After discussion, the Commission members, individually, suggested
the following changes:
(A) "when all of the ... " changed to "when a majority of
the ... ". This suggestion was not unanimous.
(A)2) "A majority of buildings" is to be stipulated as a
fixed amount, "over 60%" was suggested; change
"reasonable" to "a distance of approximately 200
feet" or "a distance of approximately 300 feet
radius",
(A)3)&4) Both are arbitrary. Should state how and who this
will make this determination. These two items should
be simplified and either combined, with No. 4
eliminated or changed to read, " ... designed and
oriented to ... sunlight, view, air ... ",
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(A)S)a It was suggested that the plate line be at 30 feet,
but was not agreed upon by the majority of
Commissioners, as that could be interpreted in many
different ways and the issue addressed bulk, not
plate line and consider architectural design; Staff
is to determine specific, quantifiable guidelines,
(A)S)b&c Clarify the language to clarify a step back will be
used to reduce the volume. It was suggested these
two items be combined, as the issue stated in "d" is
addressed in "c". It was suggested that a trade off
be allowed: for every 1 foot over the height limit
allowed, 2 feet removed from the below bulk; That
"bulk" be directly addressed; Staff is to determine
specific, quantifiable guidelines, and
3.1. Renumber 3.2, 3.3, 3.4 and 3.4 as 3.1.a, 3.1.b and
3.1.c and 3.1.d.
Mr. Lee suggested that paragraph (A) the word "generally" be
struck, and in Subsection (A) 2) , the Commission consider what a
"reasonable distance" might mean and give direction to Staff. Mr.
Schubach stated the ordinance had been made general in an effort to
allow judgment calls by the Commission in cases where a good
project was presented, but the Code did not allow the project to be
built. He noted that in the past,-policy statements • had been
developed when a consensus had been obtained. Mr. Lee suggested
that, in order to give a clearer definition as to the standards
that would be used when making decisions, specific numbers be
stated rather than general requirements. He felt, In that way,
the accusation of "arbitrary" would then be inappropriate. He also
suggested the Commission consider CONTINUING this issue to allow
Staff to return with a reworded resolution, using the particular
matters previously described as examples in terms reduction of
mass, bulk and acceptable esthetic architectural design. Mr.
Schubach commented that if over 50% were the requirement of
buildings on the same block (Item (A)2)], this ordinance would be
superficial, as no one would be able to build over 30 feet.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda referenced the suggested change to (A)2),
requesting Staff to present, at the next scheduled Planning
Commission meeting, graphics via a City zoning map, as to the
impact of 200 or 300 feet distance requirement. He felt the
Commission's intention was to protect property owners and ensure
that they be allowed to enjoy the same rights as others; there-
fore, a review of the graphics was very necessary. Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the definition of "block" as it
applied to this issue. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda requested that Staff
present a determination of impact to stating 40%, 50%, 60~, etc. in
Subsection (A)2), using the "block" definition shown in No. 206, to
the Commission at its next scheduled meeting in August, 1992.
MOTION by Vice-Chrnn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE
TEXT 92-2 to the Planning Commission's first meeting of August,
1992.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
Mr. Dier volunteered his time and computer programming .to assist
Staff in computing the impact of percentages in item (A)2).
A break was taken from 9:20 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.
SS 92-3 --SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING RESIDENTIAL
OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment
and adoption of an Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, detailing the background and
the Commission's previous stated desire to see open space areas
adjacent or accessible to living areas and to make open space a
function of lot size. He noted that, pursuant to the Commission's
previous comments, Staff had made modification, clarification and
minor changes to the open space requirement language. Mr. Schubach
then discussed the Commission's wish that required open space
should be a percentage of lot size, noting this was consistent with
a Housing Element policy statement. He discussed the R-1, R-2B,
R-2 and R-3 open space standards and requirements, stating that
Staff agreed that making open space a percentage of lot size in R-1
would be a reasonable and fair approach, resulting in more open
space on larger lots. He then explained calculations and projected
results.
Mr. Schubach stated · multi-family projects are currently directly
related to lot size, and explained the differences between single-
and multi-family project requirements, as well as the specific
requirements for multi-family projects. He stated Staff modified
the provision relating to 50% multi-family open space coverage,
eliminating confusion and to add flexibility in open ~pace area
design, while not taking away from open space value. Staff
believed a case by case review would be best to discourage
unintended use of the provision. Staff suggested a minimum size
uncovered area should be required prior to allowing any coverage.
Mr. Schubach read the definition of "open space", noting Staff was
comfortable with that definition.
Comm. Suard asked why there was . a maximum on the R-1 zone open
space requirement, to which Mr. Schubach responded the maximum was
reasonable, but could be replaced by "14%". Comm. Suard felt the
limit should be deleted.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 9:41 p.m.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd, Ste. 300, discussed with Mr.
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Schubach the dimensions associated with R-1 lots. Mr. Compton
discussed the walk-street lot access and lack of usable open space,
resulting in a small area adjacent to the alley as "open space".
He felt the 7-feet front yard set back should be included as open
space. Mr. Compton felt that if the front yard set back were used,
open space would be automatically provided and this requirement
would not represent a problem for small lots. He felt the 14% was
reasonable, but was upset that requirements were constantly
modified, which results in more nonconformities. He requested that
the additional open space not be required only at the ground level
in order to make small lots more attractive and more "buildable" to
property owners.
Mr. Compton expressed confusion relating to the fact that it is
fine to have the living space on the ground in R-1, but for
multi-family, the open space must be adjacent to the living space.
He stated single-family homes are being built upside down, to which
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda disagreed, stating condominiums are built
upside down. Comm. Oakes stated that open space did not have to be
next to the living area in single-family dwellings, discussing the
reasons for the open space requirements with Mr. Compton and Mr.
Schubach. Mr. Compton suggested that at least one or two of the
upper-level decks should be allowed to be covered.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 10:15 p.m.
Comm. Marks reiterated Mr. Compton's statements regarding the
inconsistency in requiring open spaces adjacent to living space,
feeling that flexibility should be established regarding open space
at ground level and the upper floors. Comm. Oaks felt maintaining
open space at the ground level was very important. She felt
ability to give smaller lot owners a break by using percentages was
commendable, stating she had not problem with "50% coverage". Comm
Suard suggested that -on the smaller lots, the 14% calculation for
the ground level only, with the ground level reflecting a decrease
as the total unit square footage decreased, with the additional
allotted amount being placed in deck space. ••
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated this issue originated as a response to
boxy, bulky buildings with the open space being furnished by flat
roof areas. He stated it was morE~ desirable to provide open space
adjacent to the primary living areas; there had never been any
intention to reduce ground floor, at grade open space in single-
family dwelling zones.
MOTION by Comm. Suard to APPROVE SS 92-3 with removal of the
maximum, when lots are small (under 1500 square feet) calculations
will be based upon lot size, but continuing the 14%, with a change
in the minimum; maintain the minimum of 210 square feet, but where
the living area is above the ground floor, the remainder of the
open space could be allocated above the ground level, rather than
maintaining the 75% allocation to ground space requirement. The
motion failed for lack of a second.
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Comm. Oakes that the motion was interesting, but felt that most
small lots would be nonconforming remodels rather than no
construction.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes to approve SS 92-3 as written, and with the
conditions as stated. The motion failed for lack of a second.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, to APPROVE
as written, and with conditions, but with the elimination of the
maximum of 560 in the R-1 zone.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Marks, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Conun. Oakes
None
Chmn. Merl
SS 86-12 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING ADULT USES
AND ADOPTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Reconunended Action: To recommend amending the zoning ordinance
provisions on adult businesses and adoption of the Environmental
Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating this matter has
returned to the Commissions on several occasions, with Staff making
changes, as requested. He discussed the difficulty of establishing
these types of businesses within Orange County and other areas. He
stressed the importance of understanding the point of this
ordinance is that it be as legally defensible as possible, so that
if an establishment does come to the City, it can be regulated.
Mr. Lee added the distance restrictions of more than 200 feet from
the exterior boundaries of residentially-owned property, 1,000 feet
from more sensitive uses (such as schools) and 1,000 feet from one
adult business to another adult business, were established due to
the small geographical area within the City. Mr. Lee stated the
200 feet requirement was the most restrictive that the City could
apply and still have a legally defensible ordinance. Comm. Suard
discussed possible locations and restrictions with Messrs. Lee and
Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 10:24 p.m.
No one wished to speak regarding this subject, and the Public
Hearing was closed by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 10:24 p.m.
Comm. Suard discussed with Messrs. Schubach and Lee the parking
requirements for both game arcade and adult business establish-
ments. Mr. Lee explained that adult business' clientele would
consist of adults with cars, while game arcade's catered more to
clientele without cars. Comm. Oakes felt the parking requirement
for adult businesses was excessive, to which Comm. Suard agreed.
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In response to Vice-Chmn. Di Monda's inquiry, Mr. Schubach stated
Staff did not believe the parking requirement was unreasonable.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda referenced Section 2, paragraph 6, which stated
that all of the establishment must be visible upon entrance. He
suggested that a screen or buffer be maintained, with visibility
from that point. Mr. Lee suggested that this section be reworded
as follows: On the third line, strike out "immediately" and after
the word "entrance" and "but shall not be visible as viewed from
the outside of the premises."
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oaks, to ADOPT SS 86-12,.
with changes to Section 2.7 to read, "provide one off-street
parking space per two machines or booths" and Section 2.6 to read,
" .... visible upon entrance, but shall not be visible as viewed from
the outside of the premises."
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Com1ns. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
NR 92-6 AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 13-7(b) TO ADD GREATER THAN
50% ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT
433 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Recom1nended Action: To continue the project.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff felt not enough justification for the
35-feet height had been received from the applicant. He stated
fill dirt appeared to have been observed on _site. Mr. Schubach
explained the property actually consisted of two parcels; one being
a separate five-foot strip which has been used by ·the adjacent
neighbor, although owned by the applicant. He stated the applicant
proposed to use the five-feet section as his rear yard, and stated
the neighbor's rights, nor who actually owned the property, had not
yet been established. Comm. Marks requested a complete section of
the proposed addition and relationship to the rear building be
provided.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda invited audience participation at 10:40 p.m.
Larry Peha, 67 14th Street, architect, stated the issues presented
were new to him. He stated the front portion of the house was only
28.5 feet high, had pitched roofs, and the nonconformance was two
inches in the front yard and the garage set back. He said the
location of the garage was typical of the area. He stated if the
roof were flat, the structure would be below 30 feet. He requested
approval of this application. He discussed his drawing plans, the
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encroachments and current set backs with the Commissioners. Mr.
Peha stated he was trying to keep the integrity of the current
structure and confirmed the adjacent neighbors would be required to
move the fence to their property line.
Paul Garhart, applicant, stated the lot was exactly 31' X 50', but
his lender had placed the back five feet of the lot under separate
title as additional security for the lender. Mr. Garhart has paid
property taxes on both parcels for approximately 24 years. He
stated the neighbors had been using his property to plant flowers.
He wished to build a home in which to retire and he wanted his
property back for his own use. He stated his proposed house would
still be smaller than most of the surrounding homes. He stated the
fill dirt had been brought in to fill a hole, and would supply the
survey if the Commission so wished. He stated the house and ~arage
had been built to Code and was now declared nonconforming, which he
did not understand.
Laura Straton, 434 Bayview Drive, had a survey showing the block
wall (fence) had been in place since 1966. She felt her back yard,
with all plants, would be destroyed when used by the applicant to
build upon. She presented photographs of the back yard which she
had used for 17 years. She stressed that the lots were three
separate parcels. She discussed the necessity of constructing a
block wall upon her property, the need for her review as to the
property title and stated she planned to discuss this problem with
an attorney immediately. Comm. Suard strongly recommended that the
legal review be completed prior to the next Planning Commission
meeting, to which Ms. Straton agreed. Comm. Marks suggested she
check her title report. She stated Mr. Garhart had never used the
five-foot parcel, while she had always used it. She also stated
Mr. Garhart had brought in and dumped two truck loads on dirt onto
his property.
Shirley Castle, Monterey Avenue, stated she had seen the four-feet
of dirt that was brought in. It is held in place by old pieces of
wood and looks like it has been there quite some time. She
suggested the Commissioners visit the site and observe the amount
of dirt there.
Rebuttal
Paul Garhart, applicant, stated he had not obtained a grading
permit, but would have the dirt removed if necessary. He stated he
paid the property taxes and the land was owned by him. Responding
to Vice-Chmn. Di Monda's inquiry, he stated he would be agreeable
to a design that would allow the trees and land slope to remain.
He stated the garage area and driveway were relatively level, and
had been built according to Code.
Comm. Suard requested information
and potential of view blockage.
35-feet tall buildings were found
might have a "majority".
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relating to the sur rounding area
Mr. Schubach no ·..:ed that many
in this area and that the block
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Vice-Chmn. Di Monda expressed concern in that the drawings did not
adequately address the rear yard issue. He stated he would like to
see a section or plot plan and to ask the Building Department to
visually check out the fill dirt issue.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to accept
Staff's recommendation, and CONTINUE NR 92-6 to the Planning
Commission's meeting on September 1, 1992, at which time adequate
drawings are to be presented, the fill dirt is to have been removed
and resolution to the problems of the fill dirt, rear yard and
height issues should be completed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Co1D1ns. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
P-1O VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS (continued
from 5/19 & 6/16/92 meetings.)
Reco1D1nended Action: To continue to August 4, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Mr. Terry would be presenting the Staff Report.
He commented regarding the Commission's previous recommendation
relating to Planning Commission Conditions, noting Commissioner
concern relating to the intent of the motion. Mr. Schubach asked
Comm. Suard to explain the motion, particularly Item No. 11, prior
to the Staff Report being given.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda invited audience participation at 11:14 p.m.
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes to request
Staff defer the Staff Report and accept Staff's recommendation to
CONTINUE P-10 to the Planning Commission meeting of August 18,
1992.
AYES:-
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Co1D1ns. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
a. Update of the status report regarding fence at 1515 Hermosa
Avenue.
In response to Vice-Chmn. Di Manda's inquiry, Mr. Terry
explained the property owners had cut bamboo to a three-feet
height on the east and north sides, but left a post standing.
City Staff removed a fence portion. An adjacent neighbor
~ requested that the bamboo fencing on the west side of the
property be left in place, which was done. However, a second
work order was submitted tQ the field staff, who have not yet
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responded. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda remarked upon the fact the
field superintendent had taken this matter into his own hands
and made the matter much more complicated that it should be.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda suggested the property owner be billed for
the time spent removing the fence by City employees. Mr. Lee
stated if the fence were built within the public right-of-way,
that action could be a violation of City Code, a misdemeanor.
He felt the City could invoice the property owner for the labor
involved in the removal of an illegally-built fence. Mr.
Terry explained the Public Works Department's policy relating
to this fence removal.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. City Council minutes of June 8, , 18, 23, and 30, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Oakes requested an amendment to the R-1 zone, to establish
the same height requirements as in R-3, be placed on the Planning
Commission's August 4, 1992 meeting agenda, to bring back a
Resolution of Intent, to which the Commission agreed.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated his understanding that the City Council
had voted 4-1 to amend the Municipal Code with respect to parking;
to prohibit parking in the front yard if it did not lead to a
garage. He suggested the Planning Commission send a memorandum to
the City Council at its next meeting, officially asking the Council
if the new ordinance being put into effect would include the front
yards east of Beach Drive on the walk streets; and does that mean
the City will be enforcing the front yard parking prohibition east
of Beach Drive. The Commission agreed to this suggestion.
Comm. Oakes requested better project representation be submitted to
the Commission. She stated the reduced documentation was difficult
to read. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda agreed, requesting a written list
detailing Staff's hand-out to an applicant, including the materials
that are requested from the applicant, be presented to the
Commission for determination as to whether a policy or inclusion
within • the zoning ordinance should be considered. He noted upon
the discrepancies of presentation to the Commission. Mr. Schubach
commented the Commission had previously requested smaller-sized
plans, but Staff would accommodate whatever the Commission prefers.
Comm. Suard asked the status of the video/televised Commission
meetings. Mr. Schubach explained the cable company was
investigating having a II split-channel II and will furnish a time
frame to Staff on July 23, 1992. If the Commission wished to
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change the meeting to Wednesday, instead, this issue should be put
on the agenda for discussion. Mr. Lee confirmed the necessity of
agendizing this issue for future discussion, to which the
Commission agreed.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to adjourn
at 11:40 p.m. No objections~ so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of July 21, 1992.
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