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Meeting called to order at 7:06 P.M. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Suard.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard
Chmn. Merl
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Mary Roony, Community Research Director,
Sylvia _Root, Recording Secretary
Comm. Di Monda pulled Resolutions 92-46.
;.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
following Consent Calendar items: \
Minutes of the August 4, 1992 Planning Commission Meeting,
Minutes of the August 18, 1992 Planning Commission Meeting,
Resolution P.C. 92-49, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PARKING PLAN
AMENDMENT TO ALLOW PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO BE CALCULATED PURSUANT
TO SECTION 1170, CONSOLIDATED OFF.-STREET PARKING, THEREBY ALLOWING •
A TAKE-OUT AND DELIVERY RESTAURANT ("DOMINO'S") AT 1117 AND 1121
AVIATION BOULEVARD IN THE SHOPPING CENTER AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER
OF PROSPECT AVENUE AND AVIATION BOULEVARD. ••
Resolution P.C. 92-51, A RESOLUTION OF INTENT OF THE. PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO STUDY A
GENERAL PLAN CIRCULATION ELEMENT AMENDMENT TO CLOSE FIRST PLACE
AND/OR FIRST STREET AT PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, WEST SIDE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. ~erl
None
None
None
Comm. Di Monda felt this alternate Resolution P.C. 92-49 was too
specific, noted a typographical error, q~estioned the truth of item
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"C", acknowledged item "D" as true, and stated paragraph "C" was a
possibility. He stated he preferred the first Resolution that was
considered be forwarded to the City Council, with Commissioner
Suard attending the City Council meeting to further explain the
particulars of this item. He objected, stating he was not sure all
the Findings had been made, expressed doubts about the "third
story"; commenting enough questions had been made to raise the
question for additional study. He felt strongly that if 'Mr. Suard
did not appear at the Council meeting and explain the issues, the
study would probably not be approved. Y
Comm. Suard felt the comments were necessary in order to fully
inform the City Council of the rational and options related to this
Resolution. Comm. Oakes agreed. ,.
MOTION by Chmn. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE
Resolution P.C. 92-46 as it stands.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Oakes, Suard
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Chmn. Merl
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE the
original Resolution P.C. 92~46.
Chmn. Merl felt items had been included in the alternate Resolution
which had not been discussed during the meeting and did not reflect
the actions of the Commission at that time, to which Comm. Di Monda
agreed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Phil Wagner, 601 1st Street, furnished photographs to the
Commission and stated his objections to a neighboring property on
which three unlicensed cars had been parked, dirt dumped and barbed
wire fences erected. Mr. Schubach stated Staff would refer this
complaint to the Building Department for enforcement actions.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
NR 92-6 AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 13-7 (b) TO ADD GREATER THAN
50% ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT
433 MONTEREY BOULEVARD (continued from July 21, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue to September 15, 1992
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Mr. Schubach stated the request was originally continued to allow
for plan revisions to base the height measurement from the natural
grade, removal of unpermitted fill dirt and provision of additional
upward expansion information. Staff had not received resubmitted
plans, although the fill dirt had been removed. The architect
stated the plans would be ready at the September 15, 1992 meeting.
Therefore, Staff asked for continuance. < ~
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:17 p.m. No one~wished to
speak regarding this item, and Chairman Merl closed the Public
Hearing at 7:17 p.m.
MOTION by the Commission to CONTINUE NS 92-6 to the meeting of
September 15, 1992, to allow the applicant to provide revised.-
project plans to the Commission, for its review and consideration.
NO OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
SS 92-1 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING RESIDENTIAL
FENCES ALONG VALLEY DRIVE AND ARDMORE AVENUE (continued from March
17, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To set for public hearing.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, explaining the Commission's
alternatives and background of the study, Staff's belief that more.
than three-feet high fences should not be allowed in :the front
yards and proposal being focused to side yards on corner lots. He
then discussed proposed exceptions which would apply predominately
to the subject streets, as well as several other "collector"
streets, commenting allowance of higher walls would better protect
property in specific high-noise areas. Staff suggested that a
C. U. P. be obtained to allow over-height fencing, and explained
associated conditions and provisions. He noted the proposed
ordinance would allow property owners to either legalize the
unpermitted fences or re-construct the permitted fences or walls.
Comm. Marks discussed the requirements of Zoning Ordinance, Section
12.15 with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:28 p.m.
Dan King, 1947 Valley Drive, referenced the block wall built on his
property during January 1992, stating he would like his property to
also be included and covered. Mr. Schubach responded the ordinance
would not affect fences built on public right-of-ways, over which
the Public Works Department and City Council had authority. Mr.
King requested the ordinance be updated to cover private property.
He also discussed with Mr. Schubach the need for justification for
the six foot wall in order to obtain a C.U.P. Mr. King requested
that a grapdfather clause be included to include the large number
of existing non-permitted fences, to which Mr. Schubach responded
that they generally were grandfathered.
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No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 7:34 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda felt the original focus had been on the Valley/
Ardmore corridor, that allowing oversized fences along that
corridor, the greenbelt would possibly be enhanced. He thought a
designation change, not a C. U. P., was to be used. -ffe.: stated
Staff's report was not what he had expected. Mr. Schubach stated
the study originated from a request by a property owner with a lot
with street frontage on thr ee sides and a six-feet fence height
fronting Valley Drive. Staff felt all lots should be allowed
review if grant ing was to be given to certain ones. He stated
Staff could limit t he review i f the Commission so desired. Comm.
Di Monda stated a r eas within the City are qui t e different and very·•
special. Therefore, the question of "fairness", is not appropriate
when considering dissimilar properties. The Greenbelt corridor was
the area, which should be recognized as different from other areas,· -
which the Commission wished to specifically deal with at this time.
Chmn. Merl confirmed the Commission's focus had been upon the
corridor as a parkway. Mr. Schubach stated a factor had been the
Ingleside Drive case which prompted the original investigation;
indication had been given to the applicant that corner lots (such
as his) would be evaluated. He stated corner lots were also an
issue. Comm. Di Monda stated the intent was to review the Valley/
Ardmore greenbelt; not to have additional C.U.P.'s.
Comm. Marks discussed with Mr. Schubach consideration of .shrubbery
or hedges as barriers and, therefore, under the governing Code of
12.15.
Comm. Oakes felt too much area was being reviewed, parameters
should be reiterated to assist Staff in its review and presentation
to the Commission.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chrnn. Merl, to DIRECT Staff
to bring back a study focusing on Valley /Ardmore, furnish graphic
information for the Commission's review, make recommendations as to
why and how fencing would be appropriate and what type of
landscaping migh t enhance the greenbelt corridor, and to exclude
the C.U.P. proc e ss for this item.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Corc.m. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Hone
None
SS 92-4 SPECIAL STUDY TO RECONSIDER RELOCATING THE SIGN
ORDINA.."l'CE BACH TO T HE ZONI NG ORDINANCE, A..1\JD TO EXAMINE OTHER
POSSIBLE AMENDM EN TS TO THE SIGN ORDINll..NCE (continued from May 19 ,·
1992 meetiq,g).
Recommended Action: To continue this project for further study.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended further direction regarding ·
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the scope and content of changes to the ordinance and continue the
hearing. An alternative would be to form a committee which could
form a consensus as to what should be done regarding the sign
ordinance. He explained the sign ordinance, its regulations and
impacts, as well as giving comparisons of the ordinance to those of
other cities. Mr. Schubach noted due to the complexity, the report
is not totally complete. Recommendation was made to plac e:~ cap on
the allowable area for temporary signs and a duration reduction to
60 days; that allowable sign area requ i rements speci£ically state
that they are for "permanent" signs and projecting signs-be
prohibited. He further itemized Staff's recommendations . .for
further changes.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation at 7 :55 p.m. No one,-
wished to speak on this item, and Chmn. Merl opened discussion by
the Commission at 7:55 p.m.
Comm. Suard agreed with Staff's proposed changes and comments,
while noting that the City had no illumination limits. He
suggested adoption of a statement that the illumination is not to
be out of character with the surrounding area, to which Mr.
Schubach agreed. Comm. Oakes supported Comm. Suard' s comments.
Comm. Suard questioned the practical consequences of projecting
sign elimination, the differences between an awning sign and
projecting sign s and how the proposed regulation of this item would
function. Mr. Schubach stated the monitoring was accomplished
through neighbors/ complaints and the C.U.P. process. Comm. Suard
recommended that the number of free-standing signs be based upon
the number of street frontages to the particular property;
Comm. Marks commended Staff's report as being very inclusive, to
which Comms. Di Monda and Oakes agreed. Comm. Di Monda stated the
original involvement was due to deliberation of temporary banners
and signs, and the problems associated with that issue. He felt
the sign ordinance should be similar in concept to that of
Manhattan Beach's, with attention directed to the illumination
issue, a "temporary sign" definition should be included and a
review made as to where the signs are being placed. Comm. Di Monda
then discussed specific signs within the city, objecting to the
possibil i ty of the City becoming a giant bulletin board. •
Chnm. Merl concurred that the report was a very comprehensive
study.
MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to CONTINUE SS
92-4 to allow Staff to consider and respond to the Commission's
comments made during this meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Mr. Schubach estimated this i tern would be brought back during
October 1992.
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STAFF ITEMS
a. Conceptual design of the Municipal Pier Renovation Project from
the Community Resources Department.
Mary Rooney, Community Resources Director discussed the prelim-
inary pier designs presented by Brian Mi tchell, archit~ct. She
stated that, based upon the preliminary designs and suggestions
from the Commission, a conceptual framework will resul t which
will be used for final design of the pier renovation and ~
preliminary feasibility analysis for project implementationr
She then explained the project history and purpose to.the
Commission and audience. She stated authority had been
received from the Mountains Recreation and Conservation
Authority to allow the City to be written into an upcoming
ballot measure for $1,500,000 pier renovation, as well as other
immediate funds to initiate this project. She requested candid
opinions of the rendering to be reviewed during this meeting.
Comm. Di Monda expressed concern regarding skateboarding. Ms.
Rooney stated the accommodations required for handicapped
person s resulted in access to skat eboarding, although the City
did wish to discourage that activity. Comm. Di Monda suggested
the City Attorney be contacted for an opinion of this issue.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Ms. Rooney handrails, noting the
concerns regarding rusting and visual obstruction. Comm. Di
Monda asked if an elevator was necessary if access to the
lighthouse was denied. Ms. Rooney responded research could be
conducted as one of the options.
Comm. Marks stated he was appalled upon receipt of the packet
because a budget seems to have been fixed, with no notation as
to what the budget constituted; no program or priorities
developed. He objected to input being requested of the
Commission after the fact. Ms. Rooney responded the actions
taken were at the direction of City Council and th~ p~oject had
been initially presented to all Commissions and City Council.
Mr. Brian Michell, Sazaki and Associates, addressed Comm. Marks
statements by requesting the drawings be viewed with specific
design suggestions in mind, as well as very conceptual at this
point. He asked that the concepts be reviewed and commented
upon. He, then, presented three renderings of the proposed
pier project, describing each of the renderings to the
Commission. Within each of the alternatives, the concepts
addressed were: (1) the entrance plaza, (2) the pier length
and end.
Mr. Michell stated concerns addressed in each rendering
relating to the entrance plaza included (1) seating for
pedestr1ans, (2) access steps on the north side leading to the
beach, (3) connection of the pier to The Strand, and (4)
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maintenance of the utilities in the current positions. He
explained that a lifeguard facility was on the south side of
the pier, which was not under the City's control. He discussed
the elevation grades addressed by the renderings, as well as
the concept of steps versus sloped surfaces and traffic
patterns with the Corrimission.
Comm. Di Monda offered constructive criticism as follows: (1)
the pier should continue the geometry of the street leading to
the pier or does something unexpected, which is not addressed
within the three schemes presented, (2) the seating areas -
should take advantage of the views, (3) the glass blocks ar~
inadequate as a focal point, rather a metaphor for the City
should be considered, (4) centralized seating areas with trees
were a good idea, (5) free standing lights was a good concept ·
and (6) perhaps a prototype of the lights could be introduced
for both the pier entry and the pier, itself.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the proposed railing with Mr. Michell
and Ms. Rooney. Ms. Rooney stated Staff had expressed concern
regarding any type of barrier from a visual and security
standpoint. Chmn. Merl stated the concern related to the
materials, rather than the specifics, with the concrete piles
being maintained. Mr. Michell stated the pier, itself, did not
need to be rebuilt; the changes would be for cosmetic purposes.
The Commission then discussed different treatments than those
suggested with Mr. Mitchell, included expression or concepts
which should be incorporated within the pier design. Comm.
Oakes felt the adjacent structures should be incorporated into
the design concepts and more details should be shown in order
to perceive the impact. Mr. Michell stated the only guidelines
received was to put a restaurant at the end of the pier. Comm.
Oakes felt the materials and proportion was very important to
the design, suggesting a theme historical to Hermosa Beach and
the uniqueness of Hermosa Beach be considered.
Comm. Suard felt keeping "quaint" was important, the glass
block would not be appropriate, the light house re fle cted the
flavor, integration of the lifeguard house was a "mus t", and
integration of the lighting scheme and The Strand improvements
was a necessity. He felt PVC pipes might be considered. Chmn.
Merl concurred with the Commission's previous statements. He
felt Alternative A was too busy, Alternative B was good, but
there was potential available with the lighthouse and.handling
of the lighting to take advantage of the available views. Mr.
Mitchell reiterated the lack of City's control of the lifeguard
structure as well as the concerns of that lifeguard station.
Comm. Di Monda said the pier should be a continuation of the
street, commenting grasses could be incorporated with the sand,
the pi~r was extremely important and should be "an experience
within itself", with the end of the pier making a·statement.
Ms. Rooney commented that input will be addressed during the
RUDAT process occurring during Octooer 1992. She suggested the
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Commission architects participate in the RUDAT process. The
damage that occurred during 1988 had been repaired. She stated
the ideas and suggestions made by the Commission woulq be
considered and perhaps incorporated into the project.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation at 9:18 p.m . .• .
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Betty Martin, 27th Street, asked if the bathhouses were the
responsibility of the City. She suggested showers be.built.
Chmn. Merl responded they were the responsibility of the ~
County. Comm. Suard suggested the County be contacted
regarding incorporation as part of the overall plans.
The Commission, at the request of Ms. Rooney, discussed
volunteering its expertise and time towards this project.
The Commission's comments could be presented to RUDAT for
incorporation, although the Commi ssion has not concurred during
all its suggestions. The Commis sion discussed subcommittees to
address design and program. Upon request of the other
Commissioners, Comm. Marks agreed to serve on a subcommittee _
to address establishment of a program to be discussed by the
Commission at its September 15, 1992 meeting.
b. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for September
8, 1992 meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated he would be attending that meeting, to
discuss the hotel issue.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. Planning Department activity report of July, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
d. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
e. City Council minutes of July 28 and August 11, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
a. Letter to Air Quality Management District regarding outdoor
spray painting.
Comm. Ui Monda asked if the A.Q.M.D. could be notified that a
problem exists and ask if the complaints received could be
investigated, to which Mr. Schubach responded a letter would be
forwarded.
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Mr. Schubach stated the City Council had adopted the
Commission's recommendation regarding the actions of
Multivision, and a letter will be forwarded.
Co mr.,. Di Monda noted that realty signs are appearing wi thin the
greenbelt area. He felt the City Manager should be rnarl e aware
and r ecommended a letter be sent to the South Bay Board of
Rea ltors regarding this illegal practice and the ord~nance will
be enforced; ~
ADJOURNMENT
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MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
9:37 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the f ore going mi nute s are a true and
complete record of the action t aken by the Planning Commission of
·Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of September 1,
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