HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1992_11_17MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON NOVEMBER 17, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:01 P.M. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Marks.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard
Chmn. Merl
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comm. Di Monda pulled Planning Commission Minutes of November 4,
1992, and requested that Page 10, Paragraph 4 be changed to _read,
"Comm. Oakes stated ... "
Comm. Suard requested the following changes:
Page 1, change the "Vote" to delete Comm. Suard from "Abstain"
and include his vote within the "Ayes".
Page 13, Paragraph 5, change to read, " .. available, small
sideyard encroachment was a good trade off for 20-feet
reduction in height, and modifications ... "
Page 14, Item f. add his comments relating to the Council
questioning the motivation without any cause.
Page 15, Paragraph 1, line 3, change to read, " ... study, but
approved the decrease in R-1 open space, thereby increasing ... "
Commissioner Items include as Item (b) the discussion regarding
the microphones. Comm. Suard felt this subject and the
problems experienced should be included under Commissioner
Items to assure that the City Council would be made aware of
the problems experienced by the Commission.
The Commission requested the minutes be revised and presented for
review and approval at the next Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
Resolutions for adoption.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chinn. Merl
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to speak regarding an item not placed on the Agenda.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
PARK 92-8 PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW CHIROPRACTOR Ql"P'lCl!i IN AN
EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING NON-CONFORMING TO PARKING AT 2615 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY.
Recommended Actionz To approve said Parking Plan.
Mr, Schubach stated the building is currently non-conforming in its
parking requirements, noting medical facilities are required to
have parking at a ratio of one space for each 200 square feet of
floor area. The applicant is proposing to lease about 2,300 square
feet of space. With this proposed change in use, the entire office
building must meet the current parking requirements. The office
building is currently 35 spaces deficient and would increase that
deficiency by two spaces, if the applicant's parking ~lan is
approved. Mr. Schubach noted the existing uses are light in
parking demand, the incremental parking demand increase could be
easily absorbed and the clinic would tend to have peak activity
during the evenings. He stated the parking space information
furnished by the applicant was inaccurate.
Comm. Suard referenced the Resolution, Section I, Item 2,
correcting 140 to 133 parking spaces, to which Mr. Schubach
concurred. Comm. Oakes discussed a business usage breakdown with
Mr. Schubach and expressed her concerns regarding future "same-ty~t
use" applications, Mr. Schubach stated each application is
examined on a case-by-case basis. Comm. Di Monda det~rmined that
there was not a master c.u.P. for the building and suggested that
in the future buildings be reviewed for the purposes of
amortization. He felt the requirements of Resolution Section I,
Items 2 and 3 were not the responsibility of the applicant. Mr,
Schubach stated the C.U.P. ran with the land, which involved the
landlord's participation and acknowledgement.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:11 p.m.
Dr. Julie Honaker-Brown, 201 Herondo Street, Redondo Beach, stated
that 100-130 parking spaces are available at any one time. She
felt this location was the best place, with the best parking
situation, for expansion of her business.
Mr. 'l'om Turobi, project broker, noted the poor economics, the
necessity to fill empty buildings with tenants and the ~ssociated
benefits to the landlords and the City. He stated most of the
available parking is not used by the other tenants; noting that 140
parking spaces was the correct number according to the landlord.
He stated his support of this application.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chairman Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 7:15 p.m.
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MOTION by Comm, Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE
Staff's recommendation.
Comm. Oakes reiterated her concerns regarding future businesses
that would perhaps impose more parking requirements on the site.
While encouraging businesses to locate within the City, she stated
her hesitancy in approving this application because of the possible
future impact on other building tenants. Comm. Di Monda confirmed
with Mr. Schubach that the change in use resulted in this review of
the parking requirements. •
AYESs
NOESr
ABS'l'AINr
ABSENT1
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Ch.mn. Merl
None
None
Hone
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting,
CUP 92-18 CONDITIONAL USE PBRMI'l' TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING AUTO
BODY SHOP ANO PAIN'l', AND INSTALLATION OF CELLULAR PHONE, AUTO
ALARMS ANO STERIOS AT 620 SECOND STREET, OLYMPIC AUTO CENTER,
Recommended Actions To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report. This C.U.P. would authorize
continued operation of the business, subject to conditions. Fire
Department reports stated the establishment met AQMD operating
standards. Mr. Schubach noted previous testimony received which
stated outdoor work activity had been noted. Additionally, outdoor
work activity of some spray painting and framework adjustments was
presently conducted in a designated parking space. He •noted the
applican~ had stated the framework machine was only used. about
three times l?er months and the space wae used for parking of
customer vehicles while awaiting parts, which ·is a zoning
violation. Staff is recommending continued public right-of-way
landscaping maintenance rather than requiring on-site landscaping
(which will also require approval by the Public Works Dept.) Mr.
Schubach discussed Staff's recommended conditions and hours of
operation, and discussed the difficulties of this type of business
located upon such a small site.
Comm. Oakes asked why there were so many auto/body shops located
with the City. Mr. Schubach discussed the major car dealerships
located within the City in the past and rresent, which probably
resulted in this abundance. Comm. Oakes · fe t they were a result of
the City's allowance of spray painting, noting that many other
cities did not. She requested Staff investigate the implications
of this policy, address issues of spray and drainage and present
its study results to the Commission. Mr. Schubach recommended this
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subject be brought up during the Land Use portion of the Joint
Meeting with City Council. Comm. Oakes reiterated her request for
a study, feeling the City was very small, with commercial and
residential properties having to be mixed.
Comm. Suard discussed the lack of AQMD enforcement, stating he felt
the City should initiate and implement an enforcement program. He
stated that if these C.U.P.'s are to be allowed, included should be
a mechanism to assure compliance by bi-annual, unannounced reviews.
He felt these businesses should be encouraged to be good neighbors;
and such effort should start with this C.U.P. He questioned Reso-
lution Item 12, which excluded particles and toxins. Mr. Schubach
noted the applicant met all AQMD standards, noting the City assures
compliance of AQMD and Fire Department requirements (Items 11, 12,
13 and 14). Comms. Suard and Oakes discussed with Mr. Schubach
results of previous "spot reviews" of this type of business,
including this particular business places its waste in barrels,
which are emptied by an authorized waste disposal company.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Mr. Schubach the fact that the C.U.P.
would run with the land and that Staff is recommending "resident-
ial" zoning. Mr. Schubach stated the City Attorney had stated
approval of this C.U.P. would not guarantee future permanency if
the zoning was changed. Mr. Schubach confirmed to Comm. Oakes that
the signage was not being reviewed during this hearing, but it
could be included as a condition.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:36 p.m.
Mr. Gary Bolsajian, 620 2nd Street, stated he, his father and
brother were partners in the business, bought in 1984 and had been
in compliance with all AQMD and Fire Dept. requirements. He stated
only partial, limited painting within the approved booth. He said
outside painting had not ever been done. He discussed the pride
his business had in its relationship with neighbors and customers,
with the site well maintained. Waste materials were d_isposed of in
accordance with State and Federal laws.
Mr. Bolsajain stated he agreed and complied with the majority of
the conditions. He requested as addition to Condition #3 as
follows: allow taping, masking, stripe tape and attach adhesive
holdings outside the building. He felt this would not cause an
annoyance to surrounding residents. He also requested the ability
to align cars on the frame ramp, stating use of the ramp was of
utmost im~ortance to him. He requested that Condition #6 be
changed since cars sometimes are parked over 7 2 hours due to
insurance appraisals and parts having to ·be ordered. Condition #7
should be changed since he only has one employee. Condition #12
would be too expensive for his business. He has been gathering
information but has not found an affordable alternative. He stated
that compliance to Condition # 14 would "kill" his business. He
cannot operate with both garage doors closed, noting the condition
was not practical, nor safe. He stated that all painting was done
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within the booth and the building, itself, should not be turned
into a giant spray booth by closing all doors. He disagreed with
Condition #22 since the condition would not change the way the
business is operated but would cost a lot of money. He. felt the
condition was costly and served no purpose. He stated the
neighbors did not feel it was a necessity to screen the ducts on
top of the building.
In response to Comm. Oakes comments and questions, Mr. Bolsajian
explained that no solvents go into drains, methods used when
partial spray painting and methods of disposal of waste materials.
Curt Louw, 571 2nd Street, stated he couldn't ask for a better
neighbor than Olympic Auto Center. He felt his own children made
more noise and the residents and other businesses polluted the area
more that the business did. He also stated he made never smelled
an odors coming from the applicant's shop. He felt it was comfort-
ing to know the applicant was available if his wife needed any
help, opposing changing the face of the building and suggested the
Commission visit to location if they wanted to see a well run
business.
Jim Prescott, neighbor, lives right below the applicant and has not
experienced any problems.
Jim Dominquez, 56 32nd street, is a Federal officer and sleeps in
the daytime and has never experienced any problems with the
applicant's business. He felt the building should stay . the way it
is and the business was a good example of every square inch of the
property being used properly. His four-year son visits with Gary
and George Bolsajian and is treated extremely well. He stated he
was surprised at the conditions placed on an existing business,
noting the building was clean, neat and well kept.
Elinore Reisling, neighbor, lives across the street. She has never
experienced an problems with the business relating to .noise, odors
or traffic. She felt it was comforting to have them there in the
daytime. She stated her support of the C.U.P.
Greg Reynolds, 1428 Hermosa, watched the building being
constructed. He stated the business was the best of neighbors,
giving security to the neighborhood during the daytime, as well as
accepting packages for the neighbors, loaning tools and being good
friends with the residents. He has experienced no noise or odors,
felt the building was clean and a lot nicer than a lot of the
houses. He stated harmony between residents and business was
needed and this business was a perfect example of what should be.
He requested that restrictions not be placed on this local
business, as it is an asset to the community. He also stated he
had never seen painting being done outside the building.
Bob Colter, 627 2nd Street, stated the business created no exces-
sive noise, the signs are fine, no painting was done outside the
building, no odors are produced and the duct work on top of the
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building is not a problem. The applicant is a good neighbor and
contributes to a crime-free street. He supported the application.
Steve Peterson, lives next door to the body shop, his family sold
the property to the applicant. He has never seen painting being
done outside the building and felt this was a body shop that the
City should ensure stays, because they are "doing one hell of a
job".
Eric Stieman, Hermosa Beach resident, takes his car to the
applicant's shop because it is such a well-run business. They do a
first rate job at a reasonable price and are an asset to the
community. He had never seen a body shop so nicely laid out and
ran. He suggested the Commission consider the hard economic times
and asked the restrictions be very limited.
Mary Lou Boyd, neighbor, agreed with everything that had been said.
She felt the new condominiums and townhouses built in the City were
more offensive than Olympic Auto body, which contributed to the
welfare of the community.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 8:08 p.m.
Comm. Marks commended the speakers for their testimony,
Commission a fuller picture. Chmn. Merl noted the
environment between this business and the community.
suggested the applicant work with the Commission to
understanding and acceptance of the conditions.
giving the
cooperative
Comm. Marks
come to an
Comm. Suard suggested the following: Condition #3, add the ability
to perform masking, taping and attaching molding, Condition #6, add
the words, "part delivery or any other service-related delays",
Condition #14, working with Staff, perhaps only those · doors
surrounding the booth needed to be closed, Condition #22 could be
eliminated in that testimony stated the duct work was not
displeasing, to which Chmn. Merl and Comm. Oakes concurred. Mr.
Schubach suggested one door could remain open, other body shops
that have screened ductwork are not going to be happy if this site
does not, but can be considered on a case-by-case basis. Condition
#3 could not be changed to allow outdoor work activities as it
would be a zoning violation; which is ' also true for allowing
storage on the parking lot. He suggested any reference could be
omitted in Condition #3, and if a complaint were received in the
future, it would be addressed as a zoning violation. Parking could
be revised to allow the equipment to be stored.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE this
application to January 19, 1993, to allow the applicant to work out
the details of the Conditions with Staff's assistance.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chinn. Merl
None
None
None
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CUP 92-19 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT '1'0 AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING
GENERAL AUTO REPAIR SHOP AT 2212 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, SOLA MOTOR
WORKS.
Recommended Actions To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated the request would authorize the continued use
of the property for auto repair, subject to conditions and was
submitted in accordance with the amortization ordinance. He
discussed the visual impact, which was minimal, described the
extensive landscape background visible from Pacific Coast Highway
and noted that Staff recommended continued maintenance of the
onsite landscaping. Staff's concerns were the graffiti potential
and the lack of a trash enclosure and recommended a condition be
added to assure removal of graffiti on a continued basis. Mr.
Schubach stated this site is used by the 0 .2.lst Street Restaurant"
for overflow parking after 6:00 p.m. and on weekends. Sola's has
an agreement to use the restaurant's parking before 11: 00 a .m.,
which is not a requirement. Staff recommended a ·condition
requiring the parking agreement be made a condition in the c.u.P.
The shop does not include body work or painting. Staff also
recommended repair activity be limited from 7:00 a.m. to 7t00 p.m.
with allowance for vehicle pickup and drop-off before or after
those hours.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:27 p.m.
Javier Sola, 2212 Pacific Coast Highway, stated he tried to keep
the property as pretty as possible, his shop was designed as a
service facility with one-day turn-around, was the only one with an
ocean view, he catered to the South Bay area and kept the vehicles
clean. He stated he agreed with Staff's recommendations. He
referenced a sketch by Mr. Jerry Compton of the proposed trash
enclosure, which he would build as soon as possible. He objected
to Resolution Item 10, stating he had no control over customers
parking on the street when dropping off a car and did want to be
penalized for their actions. He requested this item be rewritten
to make it less restrictive. Mr. Schubach explained Staff's intent
when writing the condition, which was to assure parking availabil-
ity for the residents, etc. Mr. Sola stated it was against his
interest to park vehicles on the street due to the increased
liability.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Ste. 300, distributed a sketch
of the proposed trash enclosure, stating it would have a five-feet
wall which would match the present back wall. He also requested
Item 10 be rewritten or deleted, noting that unforeseen problems
could occur.
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No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 8:36 p.m.
Comm. Oakes felt it was one of the tasteful auto repair shops that
she had seen. Comm. Suard suggested a condition be added that if
any changes to the current parking agreements were made, the
Commission would be notified.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE this
application with modification to Condition #10 to state, "Usage of
residential streets and/or Pacific Coast Highway for employee
parking or s toring of customer vehicles is prohibited.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this mee~ing.
CUP 92-17 /PARK 92-9 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MINOR AUTOMO-
TIVE PAINTLESS DENT REMOVAL, PARKING PLAN FOR TANDEM PARKING, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1500 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY, DENT WIZARD.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
Parking Plan subject to requiring standard building enclosure for
work area, and adopt the Environmental Ne9ative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the Commission had been provided with a supple-
ment, which was a page of the Resolution, defining the correction
made in Items 7 and 7.a. He stated the applicant has an existing
business recently moved to the subject location. The central
office is a dispatching center, but wishes to include on-site
service to one customer at a time, with primary emphasis remaining
as a central office coordinating the mobile technicians. No
painting is involved, parking is provided in tandem with the
service area providing two service bays, which is adequate to meet
requirements. Staff does not believe that work activity or
automotive service should be allowed in the proposed canvas canopy,
but rather enclosed within a building, and proposed conditions
regarding signs.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the proposed non-permanent
canvas structure, which Staff felt was not the intent of the Zoning
Ordinance. Comm. Oakes confirmed the office structure existed
on-site at the present time. Mr. Schubach stated the canopy would
be a "tent-like" structure. Comm. Di Monda referenced Condition
#8, discussing the maximum parking and employee limitations with
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. '
Mr. Schubach. Comm. Di Monda confirmed Staff was requesting a
"garage enclosure" rather than "canvas". Comm. Marks confirmed
that no teaching would be done on site.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:53 p.m.
Clay Smith, 1705 Flagler Avenue, Regional Manager for Dent Wizard,
West Coast, stated only one employee would be in the office at any
time, with only one parking space being used. A technician would
use another parking space if coming to the office, and the car
being worked on would be inside a structure. He stated if he
worked on five cars in one day, that would be a lot. He described
his operations in Beverly Hills (including a canvas tent), as well
as the mobile services.
Mr. Smith displayed the tools that would be used and demonstrated
how they worked when removing dents. He stressed that no buffing
or painting would be necessary. He described the site, noting cars
are basically hidden from view and the canvas addition was
necessary to keep mist and water from the cars, which must be clean
before work can be performed. He stated that all he needed was the
canvas top to protect the cars. He described previous tents he had
used, made with P.V.C. pipe. He stressed only one employee was
usually on site during business hours and one car was repaired at a
time. He preferred that a structure not be required since it would
be an extensive, expensive addition to the building. Comm. Oakes
stated she wished to see a picture of the proposed tent. Mr. Smith
stated he could provide a picture of the one in Beverly Hills, but
it was inside an enclosed structure and would not be a good
representation of the proposed one.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 9:12 p.m.
Comm. Marks felt the canvas cover or a mobile unit would be
satisfactory, rather than requiring a structure to be built. Comm.
Di Monda referenced the ordinance requirements which requires
certain work to be performed indoors. He stated the change of use
would require an appropriate enclosure. Comm. Suard suggested the
authority to approve or disapprove the canvas structure be
delegated to the Planning Director and the Commission approved the
application, to which Comm. Oakes agreed. Comm. Di Monda requested
that photographs of tents be submitted to the Commission, so that a
precedent would not be set; and the business be allowed to operate
inside the facility in the interim, to which Comm. Oakes agreed.
Comm. Suard stated that unless a structure was built, work could
not be performed. Comm. Di Monda felt this application was mis-
classified as a use, noting the Commission had not previously
addressed this type of operation. Comm. Suard felt Staff could
review the currently-existing tent and decide its adequacy.
Public Hearing reopened by Chmn. Merl at 9:18 p.m.
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Clay Smith, 1705 Flagler Avenue, stated his timeframe was to begin
operation as soon as possible. He did not want to incur the
expense of building a building when there was a less expensive
method that could be used. Crunn. Merl stated the Commission must
adhere to the requirement that this activity needed to be enclosed.
He reiterated the structure located in Beverly Hills would be
nothing like the proposed one. He suggested he provide~ detailed
drawing, to which Chmn. Merl approved and requested a material
sample.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 9:27 p.m.
Comm. Oakes noted this operation was singular, involving no
machinery, did not need to be enclosed. She stated these were the
reasons the Commission was considering the proposed tent. Comm.
Marks felt the operation was extremely clean and should not be
required to confirm to certain regulations as are other body shops
with machinery, noise and possible pollutants. Chmn. Merl
confirmed the Commission concurred, but wished to see the proposed
tent. Mr. Schubach responded that other types of business also
wish to put work outs ide , which is not allowed by the City. Comm.
Di Monda stated he would not support a canvas wall.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE this
application with delegation to the Planning Director to approval or
disapprove the esthetics and adequacy of the structure. If the
structure was found to be inadequate, the Planning Director would
refer this issue to the Planning Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
Comm. Di Monda
Comm. Marks
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
A break was taken from 9:35 to 9:41 p.m. Chmn. Merl reconvened the
meeting with all Commissioners seated.
SS 92-4 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING THE SIGN
ORDINANCE (continued from November 4, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue to January 19, 1993 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had compared the City's existing and
proposed ordinances to those of the City of Manhattan Beach's. He
detailed the matrix information and Staff's meeting with the
Chamber of Commerce. He stated any additional input from Commis-
sioners and audience would be analyzed and presented .at the
Commission's January 19, 1992, meeting.
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Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:46 p.m.
Dallas Yost, 65 Pier Avenue, thanked Comm. Di Monda and Mr.
Schubach for their attendance and participation at the Chamber of
Commerce's meeting. He stated he had talked to about 20 downtown
business owners and suggested that small, uniform signs be allowed
at a level viewable to pedestrians.
Jerry Compton, 12 0 0 Artesia Blvd. , Ste. 3 0 0, was pleased to see
that many of the issues that had been objected to by• business
owners had been changed. He supported signs adjusted to pedestrian
orientation and suggested a pedestrian district be designated
within the downtown area which would allow such small signs. He
discussed the difficulty in identifying the stores when walking.
He objected to the ordinance that did not allow identification of
businesses located above the second floor and requested that this
issue be reviewed. He felt that the differences between vehicular
and pedestrian orientation should be closely reviewed, since the
current ordinance precludes existing buildings without a five-feet
setback from having a pole sign. He questioned the limit of pole
signs to 10 or 15 feet, requesting clarification.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
continued the Public Hearing at 9:55 p.m.
Comm. Oakes felt the signs on Pacific Coast Highway should be
similar to that of Manhattan Beach or Redondo Beach, the
neighboring cities, suggesting more lenient signs in that area than
that in the downtown area. She suggested that the ordinance
address different requirements for the different areas of the City,
allowing those on the highway to be competitive with the adjacent
cities. She complimented Staff's efforts, but felt the recommenda-
tions be limited to the downtown area along Hermosa and lower Pier
Avenue. Comm. Di Monda stated RUDAT had resulted in the suggestion
that special signs be developed for the downtown area, of which the
A-frame signs were acceptable if they were removed a:t the end of
the hours of operation each day, to which Comm. Oakes agreed. She
felt that areas other than downtown should not automatically be
allowed to have A-frame signs. She also favored illuminated signs
in the downtown area being allowed to remain "on" almost all night,
to alleviate the area becoming dark. She felt redefinition was
needed for those stores that didn't have adequate room,
necessitating a permanent window sign.
Comm. Di Monda felt the intent of the sign ordinances of other
adjacent cities should be reviewed and adopted for assure future
clarity. He suggested the definition for a ground sign should
include "monument sign". He questioned the definition of a
projecting sign, noting the parallel section was irrelevant. He
felt "it's intended to be displayed for a limited time only" should
be deleted, and that elaboration was needed in the description of
"banner" signs, which needed to be changed to prohibit excess
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interpretation. He felt that Manhattan Beach had a reasonable
section on "prohibited signs", which could be utilized in Hermosa
Beach's ordinance, with the addition of "b, c, d, e, f, h, j, k". Open
space signage should be included, and care must be taken. Support-
ing small, projecting signs, he fedt it should be done when and if
a pedestrian zone is established in the downtown area, and that the
signs be uniform in size and graphics. The ordinance could provide
for small, projecting signs when the pedestrian areas are in the
downtown area. He noted the lack of signage limitations in -the
residential areas. Comm. Di Monda also noted that it was unclear
as to the appeal process relating to sign reviews, requesting
clarification.
Comm. Suard suggested adding after Definitions Section 28.A-3,
Awnings, "copy that is not parallel is prohibited".
Mr. Compton referenced the matrix just pr·ovided to him, noting
three items needed comment. Chmn. Merl noted the hearing was
closed and requested Mr. Compton note those items and provide the
information to the Commission.
MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to CONTINUE CUP 92-2
to January 19, 1993, to allow further input to be obtained and
presented to the Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARING
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
CUP 92-2 --SIX MONTH REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 807
21ST STREET, 21ST STREET RESTAURANT.
Recommended Action: To direct Staff to continue to enforce the
provisions of the Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated the establishment no longer has entertainment
and no complaints had been received by Staff.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation. No one wished to speak
on this subject.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Memorandum regarding City Council/Planning Commission joint
workshop meeting.
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After discussion, the meeting date of December 8, 1992 was
chosen. No objections, so ordered.
Comm. Oakes requested that the new park or plaza area be
included in the agenda. Mr. Schubach stated the Stand walk and
the plaza area were land use items and should be placed within
the land-use revision topic. Comm. Suard suggested that the
policy regarding parking on the public right-of-way,
Commissioner roles in providing information to the City
Attorney or City Council and the study regarding residential
development limits should be also included. Comm. Marks wished
the Ocean Drive issue also included.
b. Planning Department activity report September, 1992.
Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Schubach the inspections of
auto/body shops under the Code Enforcement provisions. Comm.
Suard did not feel that enough was being done in terms of
auto/body painting inspections, requested a copy of an
inspection report, feeling that the inspections should be
"beefed up". Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach commented that
those shops with C.U.P.s were inspected each quarter. Comm. Di
Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed "recovering permit
authority from the Coastal Commission" and its ramifications,
as well as "oil drilling" status. Comm. Suard discussed
with Mr. Schubach the decrease in Dial-A-Ride participation by
'---Hermosa Beach residents.
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c. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
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d. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for November
24, 1992 City Council meeting.
The Commission recommended that the City Council review that
portion of the Planning Commission tape prior to their
meetings, if it has questions.
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e. City Council minutes of October 27, 1992.
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COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda suggested that Staff produce a listing of cities
that do not allow paint spraying and include the reasons as to why.
After receipt and review, the Commission might consider revision of
the ordinance.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmn. Merl, to adjourn at
10:40 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete r ecor d o f the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of November 17,
1992.
Rod Merl ;thai~n
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Date
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