HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1992 Except 3-17MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON DECEMBER 1, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:08 P.M. by Vice-Chinn. Di Monda.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Secretary Schubach.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Marks, Suard, Vice Chmn. Di Monda
Comm. Oakes (arrived at 7:10 p.m.), Chmn. Merl
(arrived at 7:13 p.m.)
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of November 4, 1992,
Planning Commission Minutes of November 17, 1992,
Resolution P.C. 92-65 to approve a Parking Plan to allow less than
required parking, thereby allowing a chiropractor's clinic within
the Ocean Plaza office building at 2615 Pacific Coast Highway.
Resolution P.C. 92-66 approving a Conditional Use Permit to
authorize auto repair at 2212 Pacific Coast Highway ( Sola Motor
Works).
Comm. Suard pulled Resolution P.C. 92-67, requesting conditions be
included regarding canvas maintenance.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by. Comm. Marks, to_ APPROVE the
Minutes of November 4 and 17, 1992, and Resolutions P.C. 92-65 and
92-66.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl (arrived 7:13 p.m.)
Comm. Suard and Mr. Schubach discussed Resolution 92-67, determin-
ing adequate conditions were included regarding maintenance of all
canvas materials.
Resolution P.C. 92-67 approving a Conditional Use Permit and
Parking Plan to allow automotive service (paintless dent removal)
in conjunction with an office and to allow tandem parking, and
adoption of an Environmental Negative Declaration at 150_0 Pacific
Coast Highway_.
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MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, to APPROVE
Resolutions P.C. 92-67.
AYES:
NOES:
Comm.·Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Chmn. Merl (arrived 7:13 p.m.)
Chmn. Merl assumed the Chairman position.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to speak regarding an item not placed on the Agenda.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CUP 91-22 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW ON-SALE
GENERAL ALCOHOL, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, 24-HOUR OPERATION AND TANDEM
PARKING FOR MOTORCYCLES, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 1100 THE STRAND (continued from August 18th and
SeDtember 15, 1992 meetings).
Recommended Action: To deny the request.
Mr. Schubach outlined the previous reasons for continuance of this
application which included noise being created within a patio glass
enclosure with no sound proofing, police concerns regarding
allowance of 24-hour service, possible congestion resulting from
the take-out window and lack of commensurate parking facilities.
He stated a proposal to mitigate those concerns had not yet been
received by Staff, resulting in Staff's recommendation for denial.
Comm. Marks again requested that precise, to-scale drawings be
submitted by the applicant, requesting this be made a requirement.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:15 p.m.
Peter Mangurian, 5 2 11th Street, announced he would be a City
Council candi date next year. He apologized for the bar and street
noise, as well as corruption in the area, stating drug sales within
downtown and other parts of Hermosa Beach was being pro~ected. He
stated he was not selling drugs, nor "paying off". He felt air
conditioning was not necessary, stating that if the windows were
"cracked", it would become cold within the building. He stated he
would not need entertainment amplification. He said the statement
that he was not willing to limit the scope of expansion was a lie,
commenting he did not want the City's inability to rectify the
downtown problems to be taken out of him, as he had not created
them. He felt nothing would be done by the Police Dept. until the
City Council changed, noting he had called the Police Dept. many
times regarding noise, with no results. He said if his business
was going to be run decently, he needed help from the City.
When asked by Comm. Suard, Mr. Mangurian stated no one had asked
him to limit the scope of his request. Comm. Suard noted this
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request had been discussed in detail at the last Public Hearing on
this subject. Comm. Oakes confirmed that the applicant was still
requesting 24-hour take-out service, bar, dining, living enter-
tainment and tandem motorcycle parking. Mr. Mangurian explained
the bar could not remain open after 2:00 A.M. Comm. Oakes
expressed the Commission's concerns relating to noise, noting that
nothing had been done to correct it. Mr. Mangurian stated he did
not intend to have loud noise, he would keep the volume down.
However, he stated he could turn the volume up and asked what the
Commission would do about it. Comm. Oakes confirmed that nothing
in writing had been submitted regarding the plans of operation.
Mr. Mangurian stated the take-out service was basically for the
week ends and all operations would close no later than 2:00 A.M.
Mr. Mangurian stated the Commission members were politically
appointed and took orders from the people who appointed them. He
stated the Commission could give him the opportunity to help clean
up the downtown area or perpetuate the current drug problems
resulting from the City's policies. He noted that by his business
being a "dump", which was unnecessary, the adjacent residents'
properties depreciated by 10%. He suggested that maybe the Council
would be changed next year by the voters. Mr. Mangurian stated a
policeman had told him the downtown area would be cleaned up when
the Council gave its permission to do so. He felt one policeman
with one ticket book could clean up the downtown area and noted the
Commission had the power to help authorize that clean up. Mr.
Mangurian stated the problem was being perpetuated by design,
noting he lived with the problems on a daily basis and the police
did nothing about it. He discussed the lack of manageability of
people on drugs, noting the only way to stop the drug situation was
to change the Council.
Responding to Chmn. Merl, Mr. Mangurian stated he did not' want to
operate 24-hours per day, but wanted the possibility at a. later
date without having to go through the C.U.P. process.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chairman ·Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 7:29 p.m.
Comm. Suard stated the Commission had previously ·asked the
application be refined, with supplements, definition and narrowing
of the request for better understanding, which had not been done.
Comm. Suard, based upon the information before the Commission,
proposed the request be denied.
Chmn. Merl noted the difficulty in determining exactly what was
being proposed by the applicant, expressing concern regarding the
lack of clarity. Comm. Oakes felt the applicant had not made an
effort, as previously requested. Comm. Di Monda commented that the
City and Commission did not condone what was happening in the
downtown area, the Police Dept.'s refusal to issue tickets for
violations or any dealing in drugs. He noted the applicant was
asking for cart blanch to do whatever he wanted to, whenever he
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wanted, suggesting the applicant presented this issue and his other
problems to the City Council.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE Staff's
recommendation to DENY the request.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was denied, subject to appeal to the
City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
CON 92-8 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR REMODELING AND
ADDITION TO A CONDOMINIUM AT 49 AND 55 8TH STREET (continued from
November 4, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, noting the previous concerns
expressed, noting the applicant had responded to the Commission's
request by submitting correspondence which had been given to the
Commission. He noted the clear approval of the deck enclosure by
the property owner of 55 8th Street, even if it stands alone, and
clarified he could not commit to enclosing his own deck at the same
time. The owner: of #47 also e xpressed support. Mr. Schubach said
the Commission must review the merits of the request, understanding
only one balcony might be enclosed, and discussed the Condition
added by Staff. He then discussed a similar, previously-approved
project at 44 7th Street.
Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Schubach the basis for the 1990
approval of the deck enclosure at 44 7th Street.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:35 p.m.
Kevin Jones, 49 8th Street presented a thorough disclosure document
and presentation, noting the efforts made in the preparation and
detailed the information of that report, design and supporting
documentation. He discussed the Homeowners Association's CC&R's,
definitions and rule-enforcement processes. Mr. Jones reviewed the
process of his application and presented a petition in support of
his project signed by local residents. He also discussed his
efforts to receive response and the lack of any response to his
requests and communications by the property owner of #53. Mr.
Jones also discussed recent precedents set on projects on 7th
Street and the front decks of his own building, which he felt were
rel evant to his project. He noted the person currently objecting
to his project had been a major beneficiary when the
front decks were enlarged, commenting the objection was that of one
single person, not representing the Homeowners Association quorum.
He reiterated 97% of his neighbors were pleased and strongly
supported his plans, feeling the project would be beneficial to the
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building and not affect the area. He stated he was willing to
remove a window from the plans, if the Commission so wished, but
felt a window on the third level was not necessary and was outside
the scope of his original request. He noted he would do whatever
was requested by the Commission. He also stating his design had no
impact on views, was consistent with the building design and should
be reviewed as an addition, by itself, and reiterated the approvals
of the neighbors and the Homeowners Association quorum.
Comm. Suard congratulated Mr. Jones on the excellent presentation
and documentation which addressed all the concerns previously
expressed by the Commission. He then discussed with Mr. Jones Ms.
McFarland's previous involvement in the design of the building and
her current support of Mr. Jones' plans. Comm. Marks discussed
with Mr. Jones particulars as to location of those residents who
had and had not signed the petition which Mr. Jones had presented.
Comm. Di Monda determined the project totaled 123 square foot,
being "about" 7 feet wide. Comm. Di Monda felt it would be less
than 7 feet, not meeting minimum room-size requirements. Mr.
Schubach stated the plans had been submitted for review, with no
comment having been received. In response to Comm. Marks inquiry,
Mr. Jones stated the adjacent homeowner was not in a financial
position to begin such a project.
Rigo Banuelos, 53 8th Street, commented upon the excellent
presentation by Mr. Jones, noting his concern was that both units
complete the proposed project at the same time. He stated Mr.
Jones had previously agreed to that condition and was taking
advantage of the fact that ownership had changed. He reiterated
his concerns regarding maintenance of building integrity and his
request that both units be enclosed at the same time. Mr. Banuelos
outlined the processes completed when his balcony was enlarged,
noted that both front balconies were completed together, and felt
the back ones should have the same requirement. Responding to
Comm. Oakes inquiry, he described the modification to the balconies
at the front of the building, which were completed . at the same
time. Comm. Di Monda determined the drawing he was reviewing was
incorrect, as it did not show the wrap-around balconies.
No one else wished to speak regarding this i tern, and ·chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 8:10 p.m.
Comm. Oakes and Mr. Schubach discussed open space requirements of
the entire building. Mr. Schubach stated open space was not an
issue in this application, which had 308 square feet.
Comm. Suard presented his concerns regarding the inadequate open
space requirements of the R-3 zone and suggested that City Council
address this issue in order for the Commission to obtain its sense
of direction. However, he did not wish to inconvenience the
property owner and acknowledged there was little opposition to the
project. He felt there was a deficiency in the Zoning Regulations.
Comm. Di Monda agreed, feeling that the 7th Street project should
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not have been allowed. Repeated enclosures would decrease
light and air which would decrease the area value. He felt
proposed room did not meet the minimum room-size requirements
expressed his opposition.
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the
and
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Chmn. Merl, to APPROVE this
Conditional Use Permit.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Chmn. Merl
Comm. Di Monda, Oakes, Suard
None
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was denied, subject to appeal to the
City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
CUP 92-25 CONDITIONAL USE PE RMIT TO ·AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING
GENERAL AUTO REPAIR SHOP AT 602 FIFTH STREET , BOB CREECH AUTO
REPAIRING.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Chmn. Merl excused himself from participation due to conflict of
interest and exited the Chambers. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda assumed the
position of Chairman.
Mr. Schubach stated the request would authorize the continued use
of the property for auto repair, subject to conditions and was
submitted in accordance with the amortization ordinance. He noted
R.V. repairs were conducted outside as R.V.'s would not fit into
the buildings. Outdoor work activity violated the zoning
ordinance. Mr. Schubach stated parts and equipment could not be
stored in required parking facilities or outside the main buildings
if not screened from the public. He described the condition of the
buildings and sheds, recommending a trash enclosure be provided and
detailed the recommended hours of operation. He stated the small
site is a good example of site inadequacy, noting the·business was
an existing development and discussed specific and standard
conditions to the C.U.P.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 8:24 p.m.
Ken Loomis, 602 5th Street, introduced himself and his business,
noting he had bought the property in 1979 after having worked there
many years. He continued with general repairs and had worked on
motorhomes since their introductio n in the mid-'50's. He explained
other businesses would not work on motorhomes, noting they could
not be worked on inside a building due to their size. Mr. Loomis
stated his customers had a problem with parking enforcement and
described the available area parking, requesting leeway for
short-term parking. Mr. Loomis addressed the conditions as
follows: ( 1) Everything he did is in violation to the zoning
ordinance since the M-1 Zone Use had been changed. Mr. Schubach
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confirmed the business had a "legal nonconforming" status, ( 2)
Could a portable shed be used in place of a block wall; could his
2-3 trash cans, drums and an occasional box be contained in his
building as he did not need a dumpster, (3) He objected to striping
the pavement, noting the city was responsible for repairs of the
cracked pavement in the public right-of-way, (4) He suggested his
current storage shed be repaired, not replaced or painted, ( 5)
Vehicles sometimes remained on site until the repairs were paid,
(6) It was not possible to do all work inside the building due to
the size of the R.V. 's, nor to complete estimates in a 15-minute
time period, (7) He asked if the Commission expected him to buy car
covers for the motor homes and felt the 72-hour limit was
unrealistic, (8) A bell on his telephone was necessary so he could
hear it when he was outside the shop, and (9) his signs had been on
the building since it was built.
Mr. Loomis stated he had received the notice the day prior to
Thanksgiving, which gave him no time to review and discuss the
conditions with Staff. He stated his trash was located out of view
at the back of the lot, but that he would like to clearr the area
and make it more usable. Comm. Marks and Mr. Loomis discussed
parking in the front area, with Mr. Loomis stating customers would
not park their R.V. 's immediately next to the building. Comm.
Marks suggested Mr. Loomis discuss his suggestions regarding the
sheds with the Planning Dept.
Comm. Di Monda suggested Mr. Loomis meet with Staff to resolve the
issues and his questions. He felt a dumpster was a Municipal Code
requirement, which was outside the jurisdiction of the Commission;
the metal shed, storing of vehicles and striping of the lot could
be discussed with Staff. Comm. Di Monda explained the reason for
some of the other conditions being included, noted those
requirements which were outside the Commission's jurisdiction and
noted that Condition 14 should read " ... no exterior .bells,
buzzers ... " Mr. Schubach agreed clarity of Condition 14 was needed
and agreed that many of the items could be resolved or explained to
the applicant. •
Rick Bernstein, 519 5th Street, presented letters of support from
neighboring residents. He stated the business is a goo_d and
supportive neighbor, with recycling of materials, little noise or
dirt. He felt the business was of benefit to the area.
Marvin May, 2230 The Strand , 20 year resident, stated the
Commission should be reas onable since the business had been at that
location for over 50 years and the residents had grown around it.
He stated Bob Creech Auto Repairing was a good neighbor.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda closed the Public Hearing at 8:36 p.m.
Vice-Chmn Di Monda stated he agreed with the testimony, the
business had been in its location a long time, the neighborhood had
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changed and the Commission would continue an issue such as this to
allow resolution to everyone's satisfaction.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to CONTINUE this
application to February 2, 1993, to allow the applicant to discuss
solutions and resolutions to the items in questions, and DIRECTED
Staff to meet with the applicant to work out those details.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
A break was
the meeting
seated.
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard
None
Chmn. Merl
None
taken from 8:52 to 9:00 p.m.
and reconvened the meeting
Chmn. Merl returned to
with all Commissioners
CUP 92-20 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN. EXISTING
GENERAL AUTO REPAIR SHOP AT 525 CYPRESS AVENUE, JOHNSON'S BRAKE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had not found the business to be a source
of any problems, with no complaints received. The shop performed
only brake repairs by appointment, with only one repair space being
utilized. Staff was concerned with the risk of intensification of
the site and included conditions to ensure the same level of
operation into the future. He discussed the opportunity to combine
trash receptacles with neighboring properties being offered to the
applicant.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:03 p.m.
Albert Castillon, 525 Cypress Avenue, agreed with the Staff Report
except, due to the lack of work, "drive-in" vehicles are. being
accepted. He stated he repairs three cars per day. He stated he
did intend to use at least one more spot for cars. He stated he
did not have a trash bin; he used his neighbors.
Comm. Oaks suggested and the Commission agreed to change the
requirement to " ... or a maximum of three cars ... " Mr. Schubach
noted the provisions enabling Mr. Castillon to add additional
parking and space and agreed that two small businesses could share
trash receptacles.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 9:07 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda requested Condition 12 be amended to read, " ... no
exterior bells ... " or similar appropriate terminology be used and
Item 1. (a) shall read, "Repair work activity shall be limited to a
maximum of three vehicles.", to which the Commission agreed.
Mr. Schubach stated Condition 12 should read, "There shall be no
bells, buzzers, or similar apparatus that can be heard beyond the
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property line." This particular condition will be changed in
C.U.P.'s in a uniform manner.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE CUP
92-20 with the addition of the changes as discussed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
CUP 92-21 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING
AUTOMOTIVE TOP AND UPHOLSTERY BUSINESS AT 619 PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY, GEORGE & AL'S AUTO TOP SHOP.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated this was similar to the previous item, the same
conditions had been provided. He noted a potential security
problem between the two buildings and suggested a fence be
installed. The condition regarding a trash container could be
modified if the applicant could place his trash inside the building
and such storage met the Municipal Code.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:12 p.m.
Ralph Werneli, 1617 Beach Avenue, Torrance, found no problem with
most of the conditions, agreed to install a gate or fence, but
questioned the required manner of parking area resurfacing. Mr.
Schubach stated a skincoat, repair of potholes and restriping would
be sufficient. Mr. Werneli stated his 2-3 cans of trash are kept
inside the building at all times until picked up. He stated
placing an enclosure outside would be difficult for the trash truck
to pick up and requested this condition be deleted.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 9:14 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda requested that Condition 12 be standardized, as
previously discussed during this meeting, to which Mr. Schubach
agreed. Responding to Comm. Di Monda, Mr. Schubach stated the "15
minutes time limitation for estimates" was a standard requirement
and had been acceptable to other mechanics in the past.
Comm. Oakes questioned Condition 7, the ·agreement regarding trash
containment. Mr. Schubach explained the applicant wished to store
his containers inside his building; Staff recommended he comply
with Municipal Code, as it was not a major contributor to outside
debris. Comm. Oakes requested this condition be change to state
the applicant may maintain his trash receptacles within his -build-
ing if such storage meets Code and Building Dept. requirements.
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MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE CUP
92-21 with the changes noted.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
CUP 92-15 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
REPAIRS, PARTS AND ACCESSORIES, AND ADOPTION
NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 828 PACIFIC COAST
CYCLES.
MOTORCYCLE SALES,
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL
HIGHWAY, SOUTH BAY
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated a public notice to residents within a 300-feet
radius had been completed, but the property lines used were based
on the legal description provided. The adjacent parking lot is not
indicated as owned by the same property owner. The City Attorney
has indicated the parking lot must be included. Approximately a
dozen property owners must be also notified. The public hearing
can be continued to a date certain, or testimony may be heard at
this meeting with a tentative approval recorded and continuation of
the public hearing to a future date for the purpose of noticing.
Mr. Schubach then gave the Staff Report, described the proposed
relocation and business remodeling and operations. He stated a
lift was proposed to lower the cycles from the parking lot to the
floor below. Staff did not cons i der the change in sales to be an
intensification of the use, but did not believe the proposed
employee parking stall location acceptable or necessary. ·Since the
~roposal is essentially the same as that approved by.City Council
in 1991, Staff recommended the same or similar conditions be
applied. Mr. Schubach then defined the additional recommended
Conditions. With the recommended mitigating conditions,. Staff did
not object to the proposal. Responding the Comm. Di Manda's
question, Mr. Schubach stated motorcycles could be brought into the
building from Pacific Coast Highway through the front door, but was
precluded since there was no curb cut. Chmn. Merl confirmed the
action options open to the Commission.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:26 p.m.
Jack Wood, 200 Pier Avenue, Ste. 38, stated the applicants had no
particular objection to the conditions -of approval and submitted a
letter acknowledging the problems of incomplete noticing. He
stated the business had performed well enough for the Council to
waive its 6-month review procedures. Mr. Wood explained that the
partners were . splitting, with Miko purchasing the property arid
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becoming a partner. Mr. Wood explained the State had no compelling
reason to allow a curb cut on the State highway and the City
prohibited the cycles traversing the sidewalk. Be explained the
method of moving the cycles using an electric-powered forklift.
He noted a unique opportunity was present since the business had
previously operated under the CUP for an extended period of time,
and no one had complained about the business in the past. He
described the type of customers and their bikes, summarizing that
Hermosa Beach could use more businesses such as this. Comms. Di
Monda, Oakes and Mr. Wood discussed various methods considered
relating to the motorcycles' entrance into the building, as well as
the associated traffic and noise problems. Comm. Marks requested
plans that displayed grade elevations. Mr. Woods objected to the
request as not having been required.
Mr. Woods stated the Building Dept. had withheld permit approval
until after the Planning Commission meeting. He requested communi-
cation to the Building Dept. stating the Commission had no objec-
tion to the applicant assuming all liability and a permit being
issued, so that construction on the handicapped bathroom facilities
and display room could begin. Messrs. Woods, Schubach and the
Commission discussed the applicants construction plans and the
problems experienced in obtaining the permit.
Dale McClinton, 940 8th Place, stated the character of the
neighborhood had not changed, but noted the area was less desirable
due to the increase in traffic on 8th Place and the resultant
vehicular noise., He requested multiple restrictions to ~educe the
noise levels of traffic and motorcycles which would result: 1)
instructions should be given to employees as well as meetings being
held, 2) customers are to be told to not test vehicles on rocal
streets, and 3) access must be from Pacific Coast Highway. Comm.
Di Monda responded Mr. McClinton' s suggestions which were
appropriate were already included in the CUP. Mr. McClin~on felt
that considerable changes had been made to the original CU~. Mr.
Woods invited Mr. McClinton to tour the proposed location in order
to address his concerns.
Jerry Snyder, 710 Hermosa Avenue, supported the application. He
felt that Miko was sensitive and considerate to the residents, with
the business contributing to the area and community.
John Granacki, 8th Street, disagreed that the operation was quiet.
He stated 8th Street had a lot of traffic noise, which was like a
canyon which echoed and vibrated. He objected to doubling the
volume if two CUP's for motorcycle shops existed. He discussed the
noise generated by motorcycles and objected to another CUP being
issued.
Jean McGreevy, 8th Place, 40-year resident, saw many problems for
the local and longtime residents if the CUP were approved. She
felt the location of that business in a residential areas would be
an ongoing nuisance to long-time residents. She discussed baffling
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the motorcycles, construction of a 6-feet block wall, planting of
trees for buffering, limiting the types of repairs, parking code
violation, need for security guards, the view of the parking lot.
She stated her neighbor will be disturbed by the vehicles in the
parking lot and the accidents on 8th and 9th Streets will increase
and should be considered.
Burt Sourer, 844 9th Street, 30-year resident, objected to
receiving the notice one day before a holiday and the week end,
feeling the notification system was defective. He opposed approval
of the CUP, noting that about two accidents happen a week on 9th
Street. He requested this issue be continued to allow neighborhood
participation at the meeting.
Joanne Hall, 830 8th Place, owns the property adjacent to the
parking lot. She objected to construction of the six-feet wall
because she would then be "closed in" and the parking lot would
still be under her window. She felt her property would decrease in
value if the CUP were approved.
-Phil McGreevy, 840 8th Place, felt the business should not be
located in the residential area, objecting to the noise created by
the motorcycles. He felt prospective buyers would not buy these
homes if a motorcycle repair shop were located next to the houses.
Beverly Wood, 940 8th Place, stated she disagreed with Mr.
Schubach. She stated 8th Place is a narrow street, of which two
cars cannot pass if a car is parked at the curb. _She felt a
traffic study should be conducted, expressed her concern that a CUP
currently exists and another might be issued which would result in
increased noise levels and unsafe conditions for pedestrians. She
noted a correction: signs should be placed on 8th Place, not 8th
Street. She also objected to the signs placed in the winddw of the
proposed site, the tile removed from the building and the. sense
that some sort of approval had already been received by the
applicant.
Mr. Schubach stated the new proposed CUP had been changed. Staff
could reword the conditions for clarity, if the Commission so
wished. Comm. Di Monda suggested the "old language" in Condition
17 be incorporated, to which Mr. Schubach agreed. Comm. Oakes
suggested the condition referencing the manner of "loading" be
deleted. Mr. Wood explained the only truck that would be loading
would be a "wrecker", which is little larger than a pick-up truck.
Ms. Wood, requested that Condition 24 be included in th~ new CUP.
Mr. Schubach stated this was not a necessary requirement, but that
it could be included. Ms. Wood referenced Condition 25, requested
that it be included, also, to which Mr. Schubach agreed. She
discussed the six-feet fence and driveway modification, requesting
the residents and a petition signed by 62 residents be considered
when the Commission makes its decision.
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, stated the only problem he had was
with noise, asked if the noise ordinance was actively enforced,
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were there records, and commented upon the levels of noise
currently within his residential area. He stated he had no
problems with two-wheel vehicles, but suggested a moratorium until
the noise issue was settled.
Leslie Beal, 920 8th Place, asked if the curb on the north side
could be painted red and that the employees could be prohibited
from parking on 8th Place, feeling it would become too congested.
Greg Tucker, 850 8th Place, said the motorcycles cost about
$30,000, felt 8th Place was a very dangerous street and noted the
complaints stated were to deflate the traffic problems on 8th
Place, not to prevent the applicant from doing business. He
requested that a traffic study be conducted.
Rebuttal
Lars Viklund, 223 Avenue B, Redondo Beach, applicant, felt the
business would not contribute to the noise problem, noting the
neighbors of his current shop had never complained. He stated
noise studies had been conducted , with no problem. He said that he
considered all the neighbors and hoped the neighbors considered
him. He stated his customers did read the signs and were
considerate of the neighbors.
Jack Wood stated the business had operated over one year without
complaints being received. He noted the applicants had no
objections to the proposed conditions, misunderstanding about the
block wall was evident, signs would be posted, customers would not
be allowed to go up 8th Street and were not interested in going up
and down 8th Place, show bikes would not enter under their own
power. He invited the residents to tour the store and see the
signs. He reiterated his request that the Building Dept. be told
the Commission had no objection to the restrooms being constructed.
Miko Sorrobi, applicant, invited the neighbors to visit and see the
type of business he has, requested his business be allowed to open
and, if he is not a good neighbor, then close him down. He stated
it was not fair to be accused of something that he had not done
yet. He stated he was a good neighbor and wanted to conduct his
business.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
continued the Public Hearing at 10:40 p.m.
The Commission again discussed its options for action with Mr.
Schubach. Comm. Oakes suggested the applicant obtain a permit for
existing use improvements, keeping this separate from this issue.
Comm. Di Monda confirmed with Mr. Woods that Mr. Grove, Building
Dept. had been Mr. Woods contact. Mr. Woods asked the Commission
to state that it did not have any objection to tenant improvements
as long as they did not imply approval of the CUP, stating he
believed he could then solve the a pplicants' problem. He noted the
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bathroom would take at least 30 days to build, which should not be
wasted. Comm. Di Monda stated he would like the Commission to send
a letter to the City Manager telling him the Commission wished Bill
Grove would enforce the rest of the Municipal Code with· the same
enthusiasm that he seems to use in denying what appeared to be the
rights of the applicants, who wish to improve existing tenant space
at their own risk. Comm. Di Monda stated he did not understand why
the Building Dept. could not enforce the sign ordinance, the
ordinance against barbed wire and other items, as well.
Responding to Comm. Oakes questions, Mr. Wood stated the previous
property owner had signed the building permit application and a fee
was accepted. Mr. Wood said he did not wish a problem to be
created, as Mr. Grove was one of the more cooperative Building
Directors of any of the cities Mr. Wood had dealt with. Comm.
Oakes confirmed that the action was simply tenant improvement,
feeling the applicant should be able to simply submit a bathroom
plan to obtain the permit. Mr. Wood stated he had previously done
exactly that; although the check was accepted, no permit was issued
even though it has been through plan check and the corrections
finished.
The Commission then discussed the possible actions it should take,
with Comm. Di Monda stating the Building Dept. had no right to deny
the permit, if the applicant was willing to take the risk. Mr.
Wood again asked a letter be sent indicating that the Planning
Commission that it had no problems with someone doing tenant
improvements to an existing use, provided it did not imply that the
CUP was approved and the applicant understood he was accepting all
the risk. Chmn. Merl and Comm. Oakes felt the Commission should
have no problem with the issuance of such a letter as long as it
was understood no presumption of rights were given and it was not
part of the CUP. Comm. Marks objected, stating he thought Bill
Grove should be given the opportunity to respond. Chmn. Merl
thought the posture taken by the Commission was appropriate,
although it would be interesting to find out what·· Mr. Grove's
objections were. Comm. Di Monda stated that if the statements made
were correct, Mr. Grove was not doing his job and was making
policy. Comm. Oakes stated the Commission could state that anyone
could go into any building, pull a permit for the same use and the
Commission would have no objection, since this was self evident.
Comm. Marks objected to an interim statement being made, to which
Comm. Oakes disagreed, stating it would not be an interim
statement. The Commission agreed to send the letter, noting the
one objection, while also inviting Mr. Grove to respond to the
Commission.
Comm. Oakes discussed with Mr. Schubach the various actions to be
taken by the residents and the Commission to improve street safety
on 8th Place. Comm. Oakes asked that a memorandum be directed to
the Traf fie Engineer and Public Works Dept., asking that they
examine any problems resulting from the issue of people traveling
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the street and/or parking, if a red curb along Casey's side of the
street should be installed due to the difficulty of the inter-
section. Chmn. Mer l summarized the request by requesting that
comment be made by the Traffic Engineer relative to the circula-
tion problem. Comm. Suard felt the Commission should also direct
Staff-to address the additional concerns expressed. Mr. Schubach
stated Staff would send a memorandum to the City Manager, which
would be directed to the Public Works Dept., with the Traffic
Engineer being requested to examine the matter and concerns.
Comm. Di Monda felt it was a reasonable request by the residents
and could be treated as a separate issue, to which Comm. Oakes
agreed. Mr. Schubach discussed the conditions in the original CUP
that had been deleted, including addressing muffler noises, stating
he would investigate the deletions and re-enter any necessary
conditions. Comm. Di Monda stated the requirement for employee
signatures had been removed from all CUP' s, which should remain
deleted.
Comm. Suard requested 1) a copy of the letter referenced in prior
Condition 25 (page 3, noise study), 2) more information as to how
the noise from Harley Davidsons are determined to be excessive, 3)
whether it would be possible to condition that all vehicles leaving
the shop must meet the noise standards, 4) information regarding
any complaints to the Police Dept. , 5) accident records for the
southern end of Pacific Coast Highway to see if 8th Street does
have more accidents that the others and 6) Staff is to question the
current property owner behind the shop to find out if there are any
current noise problems.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE CUP
92-15 to January 5, 1993.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARING
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
CON 90-8 --REOUEST FOR ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL USE
PER1"1:IT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22100 FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 626 7TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To grant a six-month extension.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended a six-month extension for the
CUP and tentative parcel map by minute order. The applicant
continued to experience financial difficulties and requested an
extension. Mr. Schubach described the proposed project and noted
the Commission could extend the expiration date for a tentative map
for a period up to three years, ending June 19, 1993. Staff had
found nothing in the overall project design to cause reason for
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denial. Comm. Marks observed the original approval was given at
least 2 1/2 years ago and objected to granting another extension.
Mr. Schubach stated the proposed project did meet all of today's
standards.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation. No one wished to speak
on this subject.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE
Staff's recommendation to grant the requested six-month extension.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
Comm. Marks
None
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
TEXT 92-4 --TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING ESTABLISHMENT OF REQUIRE-
MENTS FOR OR TO PROHIBIT SECOND UN I TS PURSUANT TO STATE GOVERNMENT
CODE 65852.2 (referred back from the November 10, 1992 City Council
meeting.
Recommended Action:
appropriate.
To recommend to the City Council as deemed
Mr. Schubach noted supplemental information (altered wording, as
requested by the City Attorney) had been included in the Commis-
sioners' packets. Mr. Schubach out l ined the history of the
progress of this item through the Commission and Council. The
Council referred this item back to the Commission, as required by
law, for the Commission's comments on totally prohibiting second
units. He then detailed Staff's three recommended proposals and
the City Council 's recommendations. He stated that Staff recom-
mended proposal #3, with Alternative #A, as it was all encompassing
and the City Attorney had approved the terminology.
Comm. Di Monda asked if Staff could include in Page 2 of ~he report
the traffic volume on Pacific Coast Highway and what would happen
to this highway if almost 3,000 more units were allowed. Also, he
wished included what the statistics would be with 17,500 trips per
day, mentioning quantity of different air particulants. Mr.
Schubach stated Staff had looked into this and explained the
factors that would need to be included in the formulas that must be
used. He suggested that Staff supply a sample, which Comm. Di
Monda thought would be important information, since the City was
already in violation of E.P.A. and Federal requirements. Comm. Di
Monda also commented upon the increase in trash and the decrease in
available land fill, which should be addressed in this report on
Page 3. Page 4 should also mention the development pattern within
the City;
where old buildings are built on the lot lines and present
associated problems for Police and Fire Depts.
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Comm. Suard discussed the lack of any mention of increased parking
problems with Mr. Schubach, who acknowledged this was a difficult
~roblem. Comm. Suard felt allowance of additional units would
increase the current parking problems. He stated his support of
proposal #3, and suggested an addition to the last line to read,
" ... immediately and/or retroactively ... ".
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation.
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, stated his support of proposal #3.
Responding to Mr. Longacre' s 9uestion, Mr. Schubach stated that
three cities had adopted similar programs. Mr. Longacre felt
residents were currently "packed like sardines".
No one else wished to speak on this subject.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE
Staff's Recommendation #3, but with the proposal previously
approved by the Commission to serve as the back-up, contingency
proposal. If Recommendation #3 is refused by the State, this
back-up p ropos al is to be immediately and/or retroactively applied.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Chmn. Merl announced that due to the extended duration of this
meeting, the following Staff Items would be continued to. the next
Planning Commission meeting:
a. Report from the City Treasurer regarding sales and use tax.
b. Memorandum regarding the City Council/Planning Commission joint
meeting.
c. Planning Department activity report of October, 1992!
d. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
e. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for December
1, 1992 City Council meeting.
f. City Council minutes of November 10, 1992.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Suard .wished to add to the "Staff Items" agenda items that
were previously discussed, which included: 1) communications
between the City Council and Planning Commission, 2) the hotel, 3)
the use of the Planning Commission, 4) greenbelt parking. Mr.
Schubach stated those items related to Land Use and RUDAT had been
included. Both subjects covered many subjects and would.take a
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great deal of time to thoroughly discuss, to which Chmn. Merl
agreed. Comm. Di Monda suggested that another meeting with the
City Council be scheduled. The Commission agreed that increased
communications were necessary and requested the items be
agendized.
Comm. Marks asked the status of public park and right-of-way along
Beach Drive. Mr. Schubach said the subcommittee was still active,
but had not decided upon a conclusion at this time.
Comm. Di Monda stated the Building Director had requested a letter
from the City Attorney authorizing the removal of the barbed wire,
which is not allowed by Municipal Code. Comm. Di Monda requested a
memorandum to the City Attorney which requested a letter authoriz-
ing the removal of the wire be directed to the Building Director
from the City Attorney. Comm. Di Monda also requested a memorandum
to the City Manager requesting a reminder be written by the City
Manager to the Police Chief stating the police do not seem to be
<JOing through the greenbelt parking lot, which has overnight park-
ing of vehicles. Comm. Di Monda also requested a very specific
memorandum be sent to the Building Director pertaining to the
Lighthouse CUP which is going to appear before the Commission.
This memo should ask, under the '91 UBC, what is 1.a) the occupancy
load of that type of use group, what is the use group and what are
the exiting requirements (both corridor and exit door widths in
inches. ) Be requested the exact size requirements in inches of
these exits based upon occupancy and load, and what the exact size
of the corridor and exit door as they exist at this time. Comm. Di
Monda requested another memorandum be sent to the City Manager
noting that at 542 The Strand, a permitted curb cut and apron, as
well as an illegal parking lot has been installed. The permit had
been issued in July 1992. Comm. Di Monda stated he understood no
parking permits were to have been issued; a permit should not have
been issued to allow cutting a curb on City property. He wished an
explanation as to how such a permit was issued.
Comm. Oakes asked the status of tree trimming in the greenbelt
area. Mr. Schubach stated this issue had been discussed, with the
determination made that certain trees could not be trimmed, as they
would be traumatized and die. The greenbelt area has been cleaned
of mattresses, etc. The police have been requested to patrol that
area.
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, stated the Cable split channel was
functioning. He announced the meeting was being shown live and
would be replayed Wednesdays and Fridays at noon. The agendas are
being shown by Multivision on Thursday and Friday evenings.
ADJOURNMENT
The Commission adjourned at 11:37 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
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CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of December 1,
1992. P ~ ~~~L ~
Rod Merl, Ch~ Michael' Schubach, Secretary
l-19-f/J
Date
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--;
1
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON NOVEMBER 17, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:01 P.M. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Marks.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard
Chmn. Merl
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comm. Di Monda pulled Planning Commission Minutes of November 4,
1992, and requested that Page 10, Paragraph 4 be changed to _read,
"Comm. Oakes stated ... "
Comm. Suard requested the following changes:
Page 1, change the "Vote" to delete Comm. Suard from "Abstain"
and include his vote within the "Ayes".
Page 13, Paragraph 5, change to read, " .. available, small
sideyard encroachment was a good trade off for 20-feet
reduction in height, and modifications ... "
Page 14, Item f. add his comments relating to the Council
questioning the motivation without any cause.
Page 15, Paragraph 1, line 3, change to read, " ... study, but
approved the decrease in R-1 open space, thereby increasing ... "
Commissioner Items include as Item (b) the discussion regarding
the microphones. Comm. Suard felt this subject and the
problems experienced should be included under Commissioner
Items to assure that the City Council would be made aware of
the problems experienced by the Commission.
The Commission requested the minutes be revised and presented for
review and approval at the next Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
Resolutions for adoption.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chinn. Merl
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to speak regarding an item not placed on the Agenda.
1 P.C.Minutes 11/17/92
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PARK 92-8 PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW CHIROPRACTOR Ql"P'lCl!i IN AN
EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING NON-CONFORMING TO PARKING AT 2615 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY.
Recommended Actionz To approve said Parking Plan.
Mr, Schubach stated the building is currently non-conforming in its
parking requirements, noting medical facilities are required to
have parking at a ratio of one space for each 200 square feet of
floor area. The applicant is proposing to lease about 2,300 square
feet of space. With this proposed change in use, the entire office
building must meet the current parking requirements. The office
building is currently 35 spaces deficient and would increase that
deficiency by two spaces, if the applicant's parking ~lan is
approved. Mr. Schubach noted the existing uses are light in
parking demand, the incremental parking demand increase could be
easily absorbed and the clinic would tend to have peak activity
during the evenings. He stated the parking space information
furnished by the applicant was inaccurate.
Comm. Suard referenced the Resolution, Section I, Item 2,
correcting 140 to 133 parking spaces, to which Mr. Schubach
concurred. Comm. Oakes discussed a business usage breakdown with
Mr. Schubach and expressed her concerns regarding future "same-ty~t
use" applications, Mr. Schubach stated each application is
examined on a case-by-case basis. Comm. Di Monda det~rmined that
there was not a master c.u.P. for the building and suggested that
in the future buildings be reviewed for the purposes of
amortization. He felt the requirements of Resolution Section I,
Items 2 and 3 were not the responsibility of the applicant. Mr,
Schubach stated the C.U.P. ran with the land, which involved the
landlord's participation and acknowledgement.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:11 p.m.
Dr. Julie Honaker-Brown, 201 Herondo Street, Redondo Beach, stated
that 100-130 parking spaces are available at any one time. She
felt this location was the best place, with the best parking
situation, for expansion of her business.
Mr. 'l'om Turobi, project broker, noted the poor economics, the
necessity to fill empty buildings with tenants and the ~ssociated
benefits to the landlords and the City. He stated most of the
available parking is not used by the other tenants; noting that 140
parking spaces was the correct number according to the landlord.
He stated his support of this application.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chairman Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 7:15 p.m.
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MOTION by Comm, Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE
Staff's recommendation.
Comm. Oakes reiterated her concerns regarding future businesses
that would perhaps impose more parking requirements on the site.
While encouraging businesses to locate within the City, she stated
her hesitancy in approving this application because of the possible
future impact on other building tenants. Comm. Di Monda confirmed
with Mr. Schubach that the change in use resulted in this review of
the parking requirements. •
AYESs
NOESr
ABS'l'AINr
ABSENT1
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Ch.mn. Merl
None
None
Hone
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting,
CUP 92-18 CONDITIONAL USE PBRMI'l' TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING AUTO
BODY SHOP ANO PAIN'l', AND INSTALLATION OF CELLULAR PHONE, AUTO
ALARMS ANO STERIOS AT 620 SECOND STREET, OLYMPIC AUTO CENTER,
Recommended Actions To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report. This C.U.P. would authorize
continued operation of the business, subject to conditions. Fire
Department reports stated the establishment met AQMD operating
standards. Mr. Schubach noted previous testimony received which
stated outdoor work activity had been noted. Additionally, outdoor
work activity of some spray painting and framework adjustments was
presently conducted in a designated parking space. He •noted the
applican~ had stated the framework machine was only used. about
three times l?er months and the space wae used for parking of
customer vehicles while awaiting parts, which ·is a zoning
violation. Staff is recommending continued public right-of-way
landscaping maintenance rather than requiring on-site landscaping
(which will also require approval by the Public Works Dept.) Mr.
Schubach discussed Staff's recommended conditions and hours of
operation, and discussed the difficulties of this type of business
located upon such a small site.
Comm. Oakes asked why there were so many auto/body shops located
with the City. Mr. Schubach discussed the major car dealerships
located within the City in the past and rresent, which probably
resulted in this abundance. Comm. Oakes · fe t they were a result of
the City's allowance of spray painting, noting that many other
cities did not. She requested Staff investigate the implications
of this policy, address issues of spray and drainage and present
its study results to the Commission. Mr. Schubach recommended this
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subject be brought up during the Land Use portion of the Joint
Meeting with City Council. Comm. Oakes reiterated her request for
a study, feeling the City was very small, with commercial and
residential properties having to be mixed.
Comm. Suard discussed the lack of AQMD enforcement, stating he felt
the City should initiate and implement an enforcement program. He
stated that if these C.U.P.'s are to be allowed, included should be
a mechanism to assure compliance by bi-annual, unannounced reviews.
He felt these businesses should be encouraged to be good neighbors;
and such effort should start with this C.U.P. He questioned Reso-
lution Item 12, which excluded particles and toxins. Mr. Schubach
noted the applicant met all AQMD standards, noting the City assures
compliance of AQMD and Fire Department requirements (Items 11, 12,
13 and 14). Comms. Suard and Oakes discussed with Mr. Schubach
results of previous "spot reviews" of this type of business,
including this particular business places its waste in barrels,
which are emptied by an authorized waste disposal company.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Mr. Schubach the fact that the C.U.P.
would run with the land and that Staff is recommending "resident-
ial" zoning. Mr. Schubach stated the City Attorney had stated
approval of this C.U.P. would not guarantee future permanency if
the zoning was changed. Mr. Schubach confirmed to Comm. Oakes that
the signage was not being reviewed during this hearing, but it
could be included as a condition.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:36 p.m.
Mr. Gary Bolsajian, 620 2nd Street, stated he, his father and
brother were partners in the business, bought in 1984 and had been
in compliance with all AQMD and Fire Dept. requirements. He stated
only partial, limited painting within the approved booth. He said
outside painting had not ever been done. He discussed the pride
his business had in its relationship with neighbors and customers,
with the site well maintained. Waste materials were d_isposed of in
accordance with State and Federal laws.
Mr. Bolsajain stated he agreed and complied with the majority of
the conditions. He requested as addition to Condition #3 as
follows: allow taping, masking, stripe tape and attach adhesive
holdings outside the building. He felt this would not cause an
annoyance to surrounding residents. He also requested the ability
to align cars on the frame ramp, stating use of the ramp was of
utmost im~ortance to him. He requested that Condition #6 be
changed since cars sometimes are parked over 7 2 hours due to
insurance appraisals and parts having to ·be ordered. Condition #7
should be changed since he only has one employee. Condition #12
would be too expensive for his business. He has been gathering
information but has not found an affordable alternative. He stated
that compliance to Condition # 14 would "kill" his business. He
cannot operate with both garage doors closed, noting the condition
was not practical, nor safe. He stated that all painting was done
4 P.C.Minutes 11/17/92
within the booth and the building, itself, should not be turned
into a giant spray booth by closing all doors. He disagreed with
Condition #22 since the condition would not change the way the
business is operated but would cost a lot of money. He. felt the
condition was costly and served no purpose. He stated the
neighbors did not feel it was a necessity to screen the ducts on
top of the building.
In response to Comm. Oakes comments and questions, Mr. Bolsajian
explained that no solvents go into drains, methods used when
partial spray painting and methods of disposal of waste materials.
Curt Louw, 571 2nd Street, stated he couldn't ask for a better
neighbor than Olympic Auto Center. He felt his own children made
more noise and the residents and other businesses polluted the area
more that the business did. He also stated he made never smelled
an odors coming from the applicant's shop. He felt it was comfort-
ing to know the applicant was available if his wife needed any
help, opposing changing the face of the building and suggested the
Commission visit to location if they wanted to see a well run
business.
Jim Prescott, neighbor, lives right below the applicant and has not
experienced any problems.
Jim Dominquez, 56 32nd street, is a Federal officer and sleeps in
the daytime and has never experienced any problems with the
applicant's business. He felt the building should stay . the way it
is and the business was a good example of every square inch of the
property being used properly. His four-year son visits with Gary
and George Bolsajian and is treated extremely well. He stated he
was surprised at the conditions placed on an existing business,
noting the building was clean, neat and well kept.
Elinore Reisling, neighbor, lives across the street. She has never
experienced an problems with the business relating to .noise, odors
or traffic. She felt it was comforting to have them there in the
daytime. She stated her support of the C.U.P.
Greg Reynolds, 1428 Hermosa, watched the building being
constructed. He stated the business was the best of neighbors,
giving security to the neighborhood during the daytime, as well as
accepting packages for the neighbors, loaning tools and being good
friends with the residents. He has experienced no noise or odors,
felt the building was clean and a lot nicer than a lot of the
houses. He stated harmony between residents and business was
needed and this business was a perfect example of what should be.
He requested that restrictions not be placed on this local
business, as it is an asset to the community. He also stated he
had never seen painting being done outside the building.
Bob Colter, 627 2nd Street, stated the business created no exces-
sive noise, the signs are fine, no painting was done outside the
building, no odors are produced and the duct work on top of the
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building is not a problem. The applicant is a good neighbor and
contributes to a crime-free street. He supported the application.
Steve Peterson, lives next door to the body shop, his family sold
the property to the applicant. He has never seen painting being
done outside the building and felt this was a body shop that the
City should ensure stays, because they are "doing one hell of a
job".
Eric Stieman, Hermosa Beach resident, takes his car to the
applicant's shop because it is such a well-run business. They do a
first rate job at a reasonable price and are an asset to the
community. He had never seen a body shop so nicely laid out and
ran. He suggested the Commission consider the hard economic times
and asked the restrictions be very limited.
Mary Lou Boyd, neighbor, agreed with everything that had been said.
She felt the new condominiums and townhouses built in the City were
more offensive than Olympic Auto body, which contributed to the
welfare of the community.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 8:08 p.m.
Comm. Marks commended the speakers for their testimony,
Commission a fuller picture. Chmn. Merl noted the
environment between this business and the community.
suggested the applicant work with the Commission to
understanding and acceptance of the conditions.
giving the
cooperative
Comm. Marks
come to an
Comm. Suard suggested the following: Condition #3, add the ability
to perform masking, taping and attaching molding, Condition #6, add
the words, "part delivery or any other service-related delays",
Condition #14, working with Staff, perhaps only those · doors
surrounding the booth needed to be closed, Condition #22 could be
eliminated in that testimony stated the duct work was not
displeasing, to which Chmn. Merl and Comm. Oakes concurred. Mr.
Schubach suggested one door could remain open, other body shops
that have screened ductwork are not going to be happy if this site
does not, but can be considered on a case-by-case basis. Condition
#3 could not be changed to allow outdoor work activities as it
would be a zoning violation; which is ' also true for allowing
storage on the parking lot. He suggested any reference could be
omitted in Condition #3, and if a complaint were received in the
future, it would be addressed as a zoning violation. Parking could
be revised to allow the equipment to be stored.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE this
application to January 19, 1993, to allow the applicant to work out
the details of the Conditions with Staff's assistance.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chinn. Merl
None
None
None
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CUP 92-19 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT '1'0 AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING
GENERAL AUTO REPAIR SHOP AT 2212 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, SOLA MOTOR
WORKS.
Recommended Actions To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated the request would authorize the continued use
of the property for auto repair, subject to conditions and was
submitted in accordance with the amortization ordinance. He
discussed the visual impact, which was minimal, described the
extensive landscape background visible from Pacific Coast Highway
and noted that Staff recommended continued maintenance of the
onsite landscaping. Staff's concerns were the graffiti potential
and the lack of a trash enclosure and recommended a condition be
added to assure removal of graffiti on a continued basis. Mr.
Schubach stated this site is used by the 0 .2.lst Street Restaurant"
for overflow parking after 6:00 p.m. and on weekends. Sola's has
an agreement to use the restaurant's parking before 11: 00 a .m.,
which is not a requirement. Staff recommended a ·condition
requiring the parking agreement be made a condition in the c.u.P.
The shop does not include body work or painting. Staff also
recommended repair activity be limited from 7:00 a.m. to 7t00 p.m.
with allowance for vehicle pickup and drop-off before or after
those hours.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:27 p.m.
Javier Sola, 2212 Pacific Coast Highway, stated he tried to keep
the property as pretty as possible, his shop was designed as a
service facility with one-day turn-around, was the only one with an
ocean view, he catered to the South Bay area and kept the vehicles
clean. He stated he agreed with Staff's recommendations. He
referenced a sketch by Mr. Jerry Compton of the proposed trash
enclosure, which he would build as soon as possible. He objected
to Resolution Item 10, stating he had no control over customers
parking on the street when dropping off a car and did want to be
penalized for their actions. He requested this item be rewritten
to make it less restrictive. Mr. Schubach explained Staff's intent
when writing the condition, which was to assure parking availabil-
ity for the residents, etc. Mr. Sola stated it was against his
interest to park vehicles on the street due to the increased
liability.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Ste. 300, distributed a sketch
of the proposed trash enclosure, stating it would have a five-feet
wall which would match the present back wall. He also requested
Item 10 be rewritten or deleted, noting that unforeseen problems
could occur.
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No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 8:36 p.m.
Comm. Oakes felt it was one of the tasteful auto repair shops that
she had seen. Comm. Suard suggested a condition be added that if
any changes to the current parking agreements were made, the
Commission would be notified.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE this
application with modification to Condition #10 to state, "Usage of
residential streets and/or Pacific Coast Highway for employee
parking or s toring of customer vehicles is prohibited.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this mee~ing.
CUP 92-17 /PARK 92-9 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MINOR AUTOMO-
TIVE PAINTLESS DENT REMOVAL, PARKING PLAN FOR TANDEM PARKING, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1500 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY, DENT WIZARD.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
Parking Plan subject to requiring standard building enclosure for
work area, and adopt the Environmental Ne9ative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the Commission had been provided with a supple-
ment, which was a page of the Resolution, defining the correction
made in Items 7 and 7.a. He stated the applicant has an existing
business recently moved to the subject location. The central
office is a dispatching center, but wishes to include on-site
service to one customer at a time, with primary emphasis remaining
as a central office coordinating the mobile technicians. No
painting is involved, parking is provided in tandem with the
service area providing two service bays, which is adequate to meet
requirements. Staff does not believe that work activity or
automotive service should be allowed in the proposed canvas canopy,
but rather enclosed within a building, and proposed conditions
regarding signs.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the proposed non-permanent
canvas structure, which Staff felt was not the intent of the Zoning
Ordinance. Comm. Oakes confirmed the office structure existed
on-site at the present time. Mr. Schubach stated the canopy would
be a "tent-like" structure. Comm. Di Monda referenced Condition
#8, discussing the maximum parking and employee limitations with
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Mr. Schubach. Comm. Di Monda confirmed Staff was requesting a
"garage enclosure" rather than "canvas". Comm. Marks confirmed
that no teaching would be done on site.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:53 p.m.
Clay Smith, 1705 Flagler Avenue, Regional Manager for Dent Wizard,
West Coast, stated only one employee would be in the office at any
time, with only one parking space being used. A technician would
use another parking space if coming to the office, and the car
being worked on would be inside a structure. He stated if he
worked on five cars in one day, that would be a lot. He described
his operations in Beverly Hills (including a canvas tent), as well
as the mobile services.
Mr. Smith displayed the tools that would be used and demonstrated
how they worked when removing dents. He stressed that no buffing
or painting would be necessary. He described the site, noting cars
are basically hidden from view and the canvas addition was
necessary to keep mist and water from the cars, which must be clean
before work can be performed. He stated that all he needed was the
canvas top to protect the cars. He described previous tents he had
used, made with P.V.C. pipe. He stressed only one employee was
usually on site during business hours and one car was repaired at a
time. He preferred that a structure not be required since it would
be an extensive, expensive addition to the building. Comm. Oakes
stated she wished to see a picture of the proposed tent. Mr. Smith
stated he could provide a picture of the one in Beverly Hills, but
it was inside an enclosed structure and would not be a good
representation of the proposed one.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 9:12 p.m.
Comm. Marks felt the canvas cover or a mobile unit would be
satisfactory, rather than requiring a structure to be built. Comm.
Di Monda referenced the ordinance requirements which requires
certain work to be performed indoors. He stated the change of use
would require an appropriate enclosure. Comm. Suard suggested the
authority to approve or disapprove the canvas structure be
delegated to the Planning Director and the Commission approved the
application, to which Comm. Oakes agreed. Comm. Di Monda requested
that photographs of tents be submitted to the Commission, so that a
precedent would not be set; and the business be allowed to operate
inside the facility in the interim, to which Comm. Oakes agreed.
Comm. Suard stated that unless a structure was built, work could
not be performed. Comm. Di Monda felt this application was mis-
classified as a use, noting the Commission had not previously
addressed this type of operation. Comm. Suard felt Staff could
review the currently-existing tent and decide its adequacy.
Public Hearing reopened by Chmn. Merl at 9:18 p.m.
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Clay Smith, 1705 Flagler Avenue, stated his timeframe was to begin
operation as soon as possible. He did not want to incur the
expense of building a building when there was a less expensive
method that could be used. Crunn. Merl stated the Commission must
adhere to the requirement that this activity needed to be enclosed.
He reiterated the structure located in Beverly Hills would be
nothing like the proposed one. He suggested he provide~ detailed
drawing, to which Chmn. Merl approved and requested a material
sample.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 9:27 p.m.
Comm. Oakes noted this operation was singular, involving no
machinery, did not need to be enclosed. She stated these were the
reasons the Commission was considering the proposed tent. Comm.
Marks felt the operation was extremely clean and should not be
required to confirm to certain regulations as are other body shops
with machinery, noise and possible pollutants. Chmn. Merl
confirmed the Commission concurred, but wished to see the proposed
tent. Mr. Schubach responded that other types of business also
wish to put work outs ide , which is not allowed by the City. Comm.
Di Monda stated he would not support a canvas wall.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE this
application with delegation to the Planning Director to approval or
disapprove the esthetics and adequacy of the structure. If the
structure was found to be inadequate, the Planning Director would
refer this issue to the Planning Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
Comm. Di Monda
Comm. Marks
None
Chairman Merl stated this item was approved subject to appeal to
the City Council within 10 days from the date of this meeting.
A break was taken from 9:35 to 9:41 p.m. Chmn. Merl reconvened the
meeting with all Commissioners seated.
SS 92-4 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING THE SIGN
ORDINANCE (continued from November 4, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue to January 19, 1993 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had compared the City's existing and
proposed ordinances to those of the City of Manhattan Beach's. He
detailed the matrix information and Staff's meeting with the
Chamber of Commerce. He stated any additional input from Commis-
sioners and audience would be analyzed and presented .at the
Commission's January 19, 1992, meeting.
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Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:46 p.m.
Dallas Yost, 65 Pier Avenue, thanked Comm. Di Monda and Mr.
Schubach for their attendance and participation at the Chamber of
Commerce's meeting. He stated he had talked to about 20 downtown
business owners and suggested that small, uniform signs be allowed
at a level viewable to pedestrians.
Jerry Compton, 12 0 0 Artesia Blvd. , Ste. 3 0 0, was pleased to see
that many of the issues that had been objected to by• business
owners had been changed. He supported signs adjusted to pedestrian
orientation and suggested a pedestrian district be designated
within the downtown area which would allow such small signs. He
discussed the difficulty in identifying the stores when walking.
He objected to the ordinance that did not allow identification of
businesses located above the second floor and requested that this
issue be reviewed. He felt that the differences between vehicular
and pedestrian orientation should be closely reviewed, since the
current ordinance precludes existing buildings without a five-feet
setback from having a pole sign. He questioned the limit of pole
signs to 10 or 15 feet, requesting clarification.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
continued the Public Hearing at 9:55 p.m.
Comm. Oakes felt the signs on Pacific Coast Highway should be
similar to that of Manhattan Beach or Redondo Beach, the
neighboring cities, suggesting more lenient signs in that area than
that in the downtown area. She suggested that the ordinance
address different requirements for the different areas of the City,
allowing those on the highway to be competitive with the adjacent
cities. She complimented Staff's efforts, but felt the recommenda-
tions be limited to the downtown area along Hermosa and lower Pier
Avenue. Comm. Di Monda stated RUDAT had resulted in the suggestion
that special signs be developed for the downtown area, of which the
A-frame signs were acceptable if they were removed a:t the end of
the hours of operation each day, to which Comm. Oakes agreed. She
felt that areas other than downtown should not automatically be
allowed to have A-frame signs. She also favored illuminated signs
in the downtown area being allowed to remain "on" almost all night,
to alleviate the area becoming dark. She felt redefinition was
needed for those stores that didn't have adequate room,
necessitating a permanent window sign.
Comm. Di Monda felt the intent of the sign ordinances of other
adjacent cities should be reviewed and adopted for assure future
clarity. He suggested the definition for a ground sign should
include "monument sign". He questioned the definition of a
projecting sign, noting the parallel section was irrelevant. He
felt "it's intended to be displayed for a limited time only" should
be deleted, and that elaboration was needed in the description of
"banner" signs, which needed to be changed to prohibit excess
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interpretation. He felt that Manhattan Beach had a reasonable
section on "prohibited signs", which could be utilized in Hermosa
Beach's ordinance, with the addition of "b, c, d, e, f, h, j, k". Open
space signage should be included, and care must be taken. Support-
ing small, projecting signs, he fedt it should be done when and if
a pedestrian zone is established in the downtown area, and that the
signs be uniform in size and graphics. The ordinance could provide
for small, projecting signs when the pedestrian areas are in the
downtown area. He noted the lack of signage limitations in -the
residential areas. Comm. Di Monda also noted that it was unclear
as to the appeal process relating to sign reviews, requesting
clarification.
Comm. Suard suggested adding after Definitions Section 28.A-3,
Awnings, "copy that is not parallel is prohibited".
Mr. Compton referenced the matrix just pr·ovided to him, noting
three items needed comment. Chmn. Merl noted the hearing was
closed and requested Mr. Compton note those items and provide the
information to the Commission.
MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to CONTINUE CUP 92-2
to January 19, 1993, to allow further input to be obtained and
presented to the Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARING
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
CUP 92-2 --SIX MONTH REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 807
21ST STREET, 21ST STREET RESTAURANT.
Recommended Action: To direct Staff to continue to enforce the
provisions of the Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated the establishment no longer has entertainment
and no complaints had been received by Staff.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation. No one wished to speak
on this subject.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Memorandum regarding City Council/Planning Commission joint
workshop meeting.
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After discussion, the meeting date of December 8, 1992 was
chosen. No objections, so ordered.
Comm. Oakes requested that the new park or plaza area be
included in the agenda. Mr. Schubach stated the Stand walk and
the plaza area were land use items and should be placed within
the land-use revision topic. Comm. Suard suggested that the
policy regarding parking on the public right-of-way,
Commissioner roles in providing information to the City
Attorney or City Council and the study regarding residential
development limits should be also included. Comm. Marks wished
the Ocean Drive issue also included.
b. Planning Department activity report September, 1992.
Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Schubach the inspections of
auto/body shops under the Code Enforcement provisions. Comm.
Suard did not feel that enough was being done in terms of
auto/body painting inspections, requested a copy of an
inspection report, feeling that the inspections should be
"beefed up". Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach commented that
those shops with C.U.P.s were inspected each quarter. Comm. Di
Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed "recovering permit
authority from the Coastal Commission" and its ramifications,
as well as "oil drilling" status. Comm. Suard discussed
with Mr. Schubach the decrease in Dial-A-Ride participation by
'---Hermosa Beach residents.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
d. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for November
24, 1992 City Council meeting.
The Commission recommended that the City Council review that
portion of the Planning Commission tape prior to their
meetings, if it has questions.
RECEIVE AND FILE
e. City Council minutes of October 27, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda suggested that Staff produce a listing of cities
that do not allow paint spraying and include the reasons as to why.
After receipt and review, the Commission might consider revision of
the ordinance.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmn. Merl, to adjourn at
10:40 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete r ecor d o f the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of November 17,
1992.
Rod Merl ;thai~n
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Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON NOVEMBER 4, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7: 02 p.m. by Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Secretary Schubach.
ROLL CALL
Present: Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard,
Chmn. Merl (arrived at 8:15 p.m.)
Absent: None
Also Present: Michael Schubach; Planning Directory,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Vice-Chairman Di Monda assumed the position of Chairman.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE
the following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of October 20, 1992,
Resolution P.C. 92-57, A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
APPROVE A PARKING PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
AMENDMENT TO EXPAND A BAKERY/SNACK SHOP TO INCLUDE
RESTAURANT SERVICE AND TO INCREASE OUTDOOR SEATING AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 51 7
PIER AVENUE, HERMOSA CAFE.
Resolution P.C. 92-58, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING
A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A FOOT BRIDGE TO COVER
REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AT 2510 THE STRAND.
Resolution P.C. 92-59, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
RECOMMEND AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT TO PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CREATION OF SECOND UNITS PURSUANT TO
SECTION 65852.2 OF THE STATE GOVERNMENT CODE AND ADOPTION
OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION. •
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comma. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda
None
Chmn. Merl
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to speak regarding any i tern not on the
agenda.
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PUBLIC HEARING
CON 92-8 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT FOR
REMODELING AND ADDITION TO A CONDOMINIUM AT 49 AND 55 8TH
STREET.
Recommended Action:
Permit.
To approve said Conditional Use
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant proposed enclosing a
covered second story balcony on both rear units, resulting
in an addition of 122 square feet each. He described the
balconies, noted the northerly 8' x 7' area qualified as
"open space", and stated enclosure would disqualify those
areas. The rear units also contain 252 square feet each
of open space at the third level and additional open space
existed in excess yard areas. The project would still
comply with open space requirements and all other Planning
and Zoning requirements. He stated the building height is
nonconforming, but the proposed addition had no impact on
the height. Staff believed the request was acceptable,
unless one of the condominium owners objected. Comm.
Marks ascertained previous construction had been completed
by permit.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:08 p.m.
Kevin Jones, 49 8th Street, the west rear unit.. He
explained the remodel plans, stating this remodel would
not impact neighbors or access, explaining the balcony
would be consistent with the lines of the building, and
noted that three of the other condominium owners had
signed a quorum agreement. He stated the owner of 55th
8th Street would like to wait about one year before
starting his remodel due to lack of financing. He
presented his original documents to the Commission _for its
review and return.
Gary Keller, project contractor, stated no open space
would be removed, glass doors would be used to enclose the
proposed area. He explained these decks fronted on the
alley.
Rigo Banuelos, 53 8th Street, strongly objected to the
proposed project, stated he had not seen the signed
agreement, no final votes had been made (to his knowledge)
and expressed his concern that only one unit would be
remodeled and the other left as is. He requested denial
of the request because he felt the other condominium owner
would not remodel his unit. He also suggested that if
approval were given, a condition be made to require both
owners to complete their projects at the same time.
Kevin Jones rebutted by stating he wished Mr. Banuelos had
responded to him earlier when he had made several attempts
2 P.C. Minutes 11-4-g2
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to contact him and obtain his opinion. He stated three
owners had agreed and Mr. Banuelos had been inf armed of
such, and the project had gone forth through the required
procedures.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda closed the Public Hearing at 7:23 p.m.
Comm. Marks requested the Planning Dept. confirm the
validity of the signatures submitted by Mr. Jones and felt
if they were the project should be approved, which was a
condition of the C.U.P.
Comm. Suard felt the architecture was good, but enclosure
would result in a block type of building. Comm. Oakes,
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda and Secretary Schubach discussed the
difficulty in enforcing a condition requiring both sides
being built at the same time or requiring a performance or
completion bond being posted.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE Staff's recommendation
to APPROVE the subject Conditional Use Permit. Failed for
lack of a second.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda,
to CONTINUE to December 1, 1992, the subject Conditional
Use Permit request, and DIRECT Staff to investigate the
feasibility of an appropriate means to insure that both
balconies are enclosed simultaneously and to request the
other applicant to appear at that meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comms. Oakes, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Comms. Marks, Suard
Chmn. Merl
None
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Marks, fo DENY
the subJect Conditional Use Permit. After discussion
among the Commission, this motion was withdrawn by Comm.
Suard, with approval by Comm. Marks.
Comm. Suard felt that if windows were installed on the
third level, the appearance of a "box" building would be
lessened and would be an adequate compromise, to which
Comm. Oakes agreed and felt it should be made a condition
of approval.
Comm. Oakes suggested a motion to CONTINUE to December 1,
1992, the subject Conditional Use Permit request, and
DIRECT Staff to investigate the feasibility of an
appropriate means to insure that both balconies are
enclosed simultaneously, REQUIRE both owners be present at
the December 1, 1992 meeting, to request the other
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condominium owners appear at that meeting and SUGGESTED
that the applicant add on the south elevation two windows
in the nook area, one on each side.
Comm. Marks felt the Commission was
position, in that it was designing the
applicant. Comm. Oakes felt the windows
the building design.
overstepping its
building for the
were important to
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda reopened the Public Hearing at 7: 4 0
p.m.
Kevin Jones, applicant, offered clarification as follows:
( 1) he intended to remodel his condominium prior to the
adjacent owner, who was having financial problems and
would not commit at this time, and ( 2) he agreed to
inclusion of windows on the third floor and he wished to
upgrade the building. Both units had been included in
this request due to cost, which is to be split by the two
units' owners.
Gary Keller, project architect, stated the adjacent
building was the same height, the balconies had no view
and were not visible from the street.
Sahai Jones, applicant, stated the balcony was over a
garbage dumpster, in the alley and not visible to others.
She stated similar units on 7th Street had set a precedent
in that only one unit was enclosed, her neighbors could
not commit to construction at this time due to finances,
but they were very excited about the idea.
Rigo Banuelos, 53 8th Street, did not object to the
enclosure, but wanted both enclosures completed at the
same time to protect the building integrity.
No one else wished to speak re~arding this item, and Vice-
Chmn. Di Monda closed the Public Hearing at 7:46 p.m.
Comm. Marks did not feel enclosure of the upper windows
was not necessary, but since the applicant had agreed to
the condition, he would support such a motion. Comm. Di
Monda felt it very important the Commission be careful
when approving balcony enclosures which could result in a
decrease of open space. He requested Staff investigate
the process completed by the unit of 7th Street which had
an enclosed balcony.
MOTION made by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda, to CONTINUE to December 1, 1992, the subject
Conditional Use Permit request, and DIRECT Staff to .
investigate the feasibility of a bond or appropriate means
to insure that both balconies are enclosed simultaneously,
REQUIRE both owners be present at the December 1, 1992
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meeting, to request the other condominium owners appear at
that meeting and SUGGESTED the south elevation include
two windows in the nook area, one on each side, with
consideration of windows constructed on the third floor.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comms. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda
None
Chmn. Merl
None
CUP 92-14 & PDP 92-9 MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AUTO BODY AND PAINT SHOP,
TWO REPAIR SHOPS AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 1086 AVIATION BOULEVARD AND 111 PROSPECT
AVENUE.
Secretary Schubach stated Staff recommended continuance to
a specific date and commented upon concerns relating to
parking and car storage areas, inadequate employee parking
and customer parking provision, proposed development being
too intensive, screening of roof equipment, existence of a
wood fence rather than a block wall, signage and impact
upon surrounding area. Staff felt the landowner was tak-
ing a realistic approach to site upgrading and improvement
and to also correct past problems and violations. Mr.
Schubach described the current site and proposed changes,
noting the absence of an integrated design as well as
landscaping and filtration equipment details, planning for
tandem parking, and the current authorization for limited
painting areas only; not full auto painting. Staff
suggested a block wall replace the wood fence and the
grade behind building #1 be raised to the top of the
existing retaining wall. Additionally, it was recommended
a covered pole sign or decorative-base ground sign with a
maximum height of 10 feet be used.
Comm. Marks felt cross sections should become a require-
ment prior to submittal to the Commission. Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda confirmed cars were painted on site in limited paint
areas. Comm. Oakes reiterated the previously-stated
concerns of Staff relating to this application. She asked
how the thinners and solvents would be handled, noting no
paint booth filtration system was in evidence. She also
asked if revised plans had been received, to which Mr.
Schubach responded he had not, although the architect had
met with Staff after receiving the report.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 8:02 p.m.
Doug Yates, 119 W. Torrance, Redondo Beach, project
architect, stated he had just received the Staff Report.
He would like to hear the Commissions concerns. The site
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is well-traveled, the applicant did not wish to build an
unattractive building. He noted keys would be available
for all cars parked on site, therefore, the tandem parking
would not be a problem. He explained the shape and
topography of the site, commenting it was a very difficult
site with which to work. Due to economics, he requested
the retaining wall remain. If the access was only from
Aviation, extreme excavation would be required, which is
expensive, making the project not viable. He explained
the finances of the proposed project and the possible
results of changes to the plan.
Comm. Oakes felt the plan was esthetically pleasing. She
suggested the buildings be combined and located at the
back of the lot to allow better vehicle access. Mr. Yates
explained a 15' height was necessary at the lower section.
Comms. Oakes and Suard discussed relocation of office
areas and consolidation of buildings with Mr. Yates. Mr.
Yates responded if building #2 were eliminated, the
project would become non-existent. Comm. Marks suggested
a possible ramp location to Mr. Yates, who felt the "drop"
was too steep. Comm. Marks disagreed. Mr. Yates agreed .
to review all the comments made by the Commission members.
Tonia Beaudet, Hermosa Beach, referenced the video tape
she had previously furnished to the Commission. She
stated she represented many residents and commented that
any improvement of the site would be good. She felt there
was no area that was not close to residents. She stated
she had no problems with Mike's but detailed the problems
experienced with Buck's. She stated, in detail, her
opposition to auto body painting, the resultant fumes and
requested all paint shops be located away from residential
areas.
Maurice Beaudet, Hermosa Beach, offered to show a video
tape, which was declined by the Commission. He stated
"some-thing" was draining from the building to the gutter
and requested to see any information relating to impact of
this proposed project. He did not believe compliance
ins~ections were conducted, asked how the City could allow
residents' qualify of like to be diminished and if there
was a plan to regulate auto body shops. He stated his
opposition to allowing a paint shop to be built.
Carlos Saital, 11th Street, stated he did not smell fumes.
He stated the current owners are working in an old fashion
building and the proposed plans would be a definite
improvement. He suggested approval, stating if after
construction, fumes still issued, action could be taken.
Roger Green, 1101 & 1109 Prospect property owner, stated
he had not experienced any obnoxious orders other than the
normal ones and had no complaints at this time. He
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supported the application, feeling the proposed plan would
be an improvement.
Mario tepee, 1120 & 1122 Prospect property owner, stated
his support for approval of the application.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda closed the Public Hearing at 8:30 p.m.
Comm. Suard suggested Staff contact A.Q.M.D. to determine
the type of system was needed to contain the fumes and
toxins. He encouraged the applicant consider of the ideas
expressed by the Commission, including stacking devices.
He felt all painting should be done inside, only. Comm.
Oakes agreed, feeling an inspection should be conducted of
interior painting and requesting the expressed concerns be
addressed when the Commission next reviewed this issue~
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated the Commission had asked the
Council to take inspection and enforcement action, but
there did not seem to be the will or finances. He noted
the City had 15 paint spray booths and the Commission had
been of the opinion that that was enough. He could not
support an intensification, which this project would do.
He agreed the facility was well designed, but felt it
would be an over-intensified usage. He expressed surprise
at Staff's recommendation for continuance, based upon the
multitude of concerns expressed. He stated his conclusion
was to deny, based upon the over-intensified use and that
it appears to not be in the best interests of the
community and City.
Comm. Suard felt this application was a chance to set up
painting correctly, that this site could serve as an
example to others and the application should be approved.
Comm. Oakes, Suard and Vice-Chmn. Di Monda discussed in
detail their previous statements and thoughts relating to
this issue. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda strongly suggested that
Staff resolve concerns and provide recommendation for
approval or denial before presentation to the Commission.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the possi-
bility of renoticing and the associated costs to the
applicant or City if the item were continued. Vice-Chmn.
Di Monda asked that Staff again review applicable filtra-
tion systems and associated costs.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to
CONTINUE application CUP 92-14 and PDP 92-9 until the
first meeting in January, 1993, directing the applicant to
address all concerns expressed by the Commission and
Staff, to include hazardous material disposition proce-
dures, reduction of the intensified site usage and
provision of additional parking.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda
None
Chmn. Merl
None
A break was taken from 8:57 to 9:05 p.m.
Chmn. Merl assumed the position of Chairman at 9:05 p.m.
SS 92-4 --SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING THE
SIGN ORDINANCE.
Recommended Action:
amendment.
To recommend approval of text
Chmn. Merl noted the Commiss ion had received a slightly
revised sign ordinance, and asked if Staff had amendments.
Mr. Schubach stated the revision noted why the changes
were made; mostly for clarification and resulting from the
study that had been made and comments from the Commission.
Additionally, three changes were made due to new State law
requirements. He stated signs could not be required to be
moved when there was a change in property ownership or
simply sign copy change. If the building is redeveloped,
the sign can be requested to be removed. Real estate
signs on private property with the consent of the property
owner cannot be required to be removed, but can be
regulated. Window signs that are not simply posters (not
exceeding 10 square feet of window area) will require a
permit. Mr. Schubach stated Staff had reviewed ordinances
from other cities and tried to maintain consistency with
them, and explained some of the other requirements that
had been included.
Comm. Di Monda noted that page 40, "temporary signs" had
an error, suggesting "60 days" should be changed to
"60-day allotment". He confirmed with Mr. Schubach that
painting on a window was considered a temporary sign,
discussing the distinction in window signs and illum-
ination would be determined on the amount of lighting,
with control would be by timing devices. Mr. Schubach
stated no alteration had been made relative to the "green
belt". Comm. Oakes and Mr. Schubach confirmed the per-
centage of a wall that could be covered with signage, that
signs were allowed on second floors, but not above second
levels. Comm. Suard confirmed with Mr. Schubach that
address numbers are not considered signs and are not
addressed by this ordinance, although they are regulated
on condominiums. Comm. Suard felt stores and businesses
should be required to display address number signs.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:24 p.m.
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Gary Waylon, 1097 Aviation Blvd., Chairman of Hermosa
Beach Chamber of Commerce, stated the Chamber has worked
with the City on this ordinance, with Staff to simplify
the business license process and sponsored the RUDAT
program. He stated this ordinance would place hardships
upon businesses that were trying to attract more sales tax
dollars, noting some provisions were not geared toward
businesses. He noted the Chamber had received a copy of
the ordinance at 3:00 p.m. today, and requested additional
time in order to study it. He requested the Commission
approve Staff's recommendation to allow further study and
to meet with the Chamber members to address its members'
concerns. He referenced page 18, paragraph B of the new
ordinance, stating he did not see a "30-minute window" in
this item, noting he would like to explore the inconsis-
tencies within the "illumination" portion. He stated.the
Chamber of Commerce would like to be a part of the review
of the ordinance and requested sufficient time (within the
next two weeks) be given prior to the final enactment of
the ordinance. He stated some areas of concern include
illumination, sign size and time of closing the signs
down.
Comm. Di Monda stated this issue had been extensively
studied by Staff and was not arbitrary, to which Comm.
Oakes agreed and reiterated, noting this proposed
ordinance was not as restrictive as some in other cities.
Mr. Waylon questioned the inclusion of Santa Barbara
within the study and stated, again, the Chamber members
wished inclusion within the process. Mr. Schubach noted
the document had been given to the Chamber last Thursday,
while agreeing that this was not a lot of time for review.
Leslie Brighart, co-owner of a sign business, stated she
was involved in this issue by being a property and
business owner. She felt the City was too restrictive
on banners and signs already, without further reduction.
She stated the times are tough, felt the business owners
were being slighted for esthetic reasons and objected to
the decrease from 90 to 60 days and the overall size
reduction of the signs.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 9:38 p.m.
Mr. Schubach discussed with the Commission its future
agendas. The meeting date of November 17, 1992 was
decided upon for inclusion of the item, if continued.
Comm. Di Monda disagreed that the ordinance was too
restrictive, stating the Commission was trying to bring
this ordinance in line with other cities. He explained
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the survey of other cities was to obtain a comparison. He
felt Manhattan Beach's ordinances were more description
and thought they should be further reviewed by Staff and
during any meeting with Chamber representatives. He felt
"prohibitive signs" and signs that blocked architectural
features should be included in that review. He explained
the concerns regarding the size of signs on the sides of
buildings, feeling that esthetics played a significant
role. He acknowledged the ordinance was very difficult to
write. Comm. Di Monda stated he thought Manhattan Beach
allowed a maximum of 150 square feet of sign area.
Comm. Di Monda stated she would mirror Comm. Di Manda's
remarks. She noted she had a problem with the size of
signs, noting one-fourth of the building face could be
covered by a sign. She suggested that the location of
signs might determine the handling of the sign sizes; ie.
Pacific Coast Highway might be considered differently than
Pier Avenue.
Comm. Suard felt the Commission was attempting to keep
visual blockage to a minimum and this should be considered
by the Chamber of Commerce. He felt the signs should
assist people in locating businesses, not detract from the
ease of location. He felt if the signs were smaller and
uniform, the ease of reading was enhanced.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes to CONTINUE SS 92-4, Special Study
and Text Amendment to the meeting of November 17, 1992,
and that Staff meet with the Chamber of Commerce
representatives and also review the Manhattan Beach
ordinance as it relates to maximum area of signs and
prohibitive signs prior to that meeting.
AYES: Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn.
Merl
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
HEARINGS
CUP 95-2 & PARK 92-2 1) SIX-MONTH REVIEW OF THE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 2) MINOR MODIFICATION REQUEST FOR
THREE ADDITIONAL VIDEO GAMES AT 950 AVIATION BOULEVARD,
THE RACER'S EDGE.
Recommended Action: 1) To direct Staff to continue to
enforce the provisions of the Conditional Use Permit. 2)
To approve the requested minor modification.
Mr. Schubach stated this review was a routine one.
Additionally, the applicant had requested three additional
video games. Staff recommended approval, but that the
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games be installed only after the applicant had complied
with all the conditions of approval. Mr. Schubach stated
this condition had been met except for the bike rack and
trash enclosure. The bike rack has been obtained and a
request for permit for the enclosure has been made. Upon
installation, they would be in full compliance.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 9:43 p.m., Chmn.
Merl invited members of the audience to speak.
Dennis Scanlan, 950 Aviation Blvd., stated the bike rack
had been installed, and the owner of the building will be
enclosing the trash enclosure within the new future. He
stated the three additional games would help the business
immensely.
No one wished to speak relating to this item.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to
APPROVE the requested minor modification, provided the
applicant is in compliance with all the conditions of
approval.
AYES: Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn.
Merl
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
FOURTH QUARTER GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
Recommended Action:
appropriate.
To direct Staff as deemed
Secretary Schubach stated that four time per year,
according to State Law, the opportunity to am~nd the
General Plan was available. Staff was not recommending
any amendments, but if the Commission did, it should make
Staff aware. He noted RUDAT and Land Use Element studies
were complete and suggested a Workshop be conducted during
December, 1992.
Comm. Di Monda asked the status of the amendment relating
to cul-de-sacs on 1st Place. Mr. Schubach stated it had
been referred to the Traffic Engineer approximately two
weeks ago.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 9:55 p.m., Chmn.
Merl invited members of the audience to speak. No one
else wished to speak relating to this item.
Chmn. Merl stated this item was closed. He asked status
on the RUDAT report. Mr. Schubach stated the RUDAT study
and "rough draft" of the Land Use Element update should be
delivered to Commissioners on November 5, 1992.
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STAFF ITEMS
a. Request from Harry Pecorelli for an interpretation
regarding the conversion of an existing manufacturing
building to residential in an R-2 zone located at 598
First Street.
Mr. Schubach discussed Mr. Pecorelli's request for a
temporary waiver to allow existing manufacturing
structures to be used as his residence. He noted the
property had been recently rezoned, described the
structures and reiterated Mr. Pecorelli's request to
use both structures as a residence which is not
allowed by the Zoning Ordinance. The only option he
has is application for variances from the set back
requirements and allowance of detached structures for
a single dwelling. Staff recommended support of the
interpretation made by Staff.
Comm. Di Monda confirmed the building were non-
conforming as to set back requirements and that
Mr. Pecorelli wished to use the existing buildings,
only remodeling the interiors. He discussed the •
proposed layout with Mr. Schubach.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 10:01 p.m.,
Chmn. Merl invited members of the audience to speak.
Harry Pecorelli, 752 22nd Street, San Pedro, stated
the drawing was not final and only used as a
possibility for room arrangement. He was willing to
revise the plan to a more appropriate one, if the
Commission so wished. He explained he was selling his
curr ent resident and hoped to move into the property
at 598 First Street, since he had owned it for many
years and was currently suffering financial reverses.
He explained the buildings had been leased for quite
some time, he had not seen the interior during that
time and the plans reflected that lack of knowledge as
to the exact dimensions of the buildings. He stated
due to the shape of the property, compliance to set
back requirements would destroy the buildings. He
wanted only to remodel the building interiors to make
them "livable" as a residence. He explained his
efforts made to comply with the City's various
requirements and the problems and expense he had
experienced so far.
Mr. Pecorelli described the condominiums surrounding
his property, Fire Dept. access routes, the block wall
surrounding his property and asked for consideration
and possible waiving of the requirements to allow he
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and his wife to live on the property which he owns
"free and clear".
Comm. Marks and Mr. Pecorelli discussed the need for a
precise develo~ment plan, as well as the cost for such
plan. Comm. Di Monda commented that the Commission
had rezoned the area and building, and felt that Mr.
Pecorelli's property, perhaps, came under the "50%
remodel", which Mr. Schubach disagreed, stating it was
a non-conforming use with a remodel of a commercial
property to residential. Comm. Di Monda noted that
the City was able to determine deviations from the
ordinances allowing people to place unwanted signs,
cars can be parked on the sidewalk, people to camp in
the Community Center, but the same creative thinking
had not been applied in this case. He noted the
rezoning had now made this property valueless without
further, extensive actions being taken. He felt Staff
should have put more creative thinking into this
request prior to presentation to the Commission.
No one else wished to speak relating to this item.
Chmn. Merl and Mr. Schubach discussed the surrounding
structures, which were new condominiums. Mr. Schubach
agreed that Staff would re-examine the Code and pre-
sent suggestions to the Commission. Comm. Oakes noted
that manufacturing facilities have more restrictive
requirements that single-family dwellings, feeling
that the non-compliance to set backs would not
represent the same hazards that a single-family would.
She felt this issue should be considered from that
angle. Comm. Suard expanded her statement, noting
there were six-feet concrete walls on both sides, Fire
Dept. access was available, small sideyard encroach-
ment was a good trade off for 20-feet reduction in
height, and modifications would require review by the
Commission.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Pecorelli discussed the adjacent
property located in Redondo Beach, the garage door
located in the rear building and Mr. Pecorelli's
unsuccessful efforts to obtain access from that
property.
Chmn. Merl stated it was the sense of the Commission
to DIRECT Staff re-examine this issue, examine
applicable codes and interpretations to resolve this
issue and present its findings to the Commission.
b. Memorandum regarding 1) Planning Commission December
meeting date. 2) City Council/Planning Commission
workshop meeting.
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The Commission agreed the regular meeting will be con-
ducted on December 1, 1992, and the workshop meeting
could be scheduled on December 3, 1992. Staff was
directed to move forward with those dates. The Com-
missioners were invited to submit additional agenda
items to Staff.
c. Status report regarding 1010 17th Street.
Mr. Schubach stated the property owner had apparently
left town without complying to the Commission's
request regarding the swimming pool. The Commission
requested that abatement ~rocedures be investigated
through a letter to the City Manager. Chmn. Merl •
felt there had been a break of faith with what was
represented to the Commission. No objection, so
ordered. •
d. Correspondence to and response from Air Quality
Management District regarding inspection of auto body
spray paint operations.
RECEIVE AND FILE
e. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
f. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for
November 10, 1992 City Council meeting.
Clarification as to members of the Planning Commission
attending the meeting and serving as the Commission
representative had not been received. The Commission
again asked for clarification by the City Attorney.
The Commission discussed Comm. Di Monda's experiences
during his attendance at the previous City Council.
meeting which related to this lack of clarification.
Comm. Suard commented upon the recommendation modify-
ing the open space in the R-1 zone, summizing the
Council wished to increase bulk and not increase
the open space of the larger lots. He noted that
it appeared that the City Council, at its wish, was
using the "bulk vote" (conducted a couple of years
ago) in denying the study for the R-1 height. Now,
the Council was reversing that, increasing bulk in
conflict with that advisory vote in this situation.
He felt that it made no sense that the Council went
back and forth, at its own descretion, without any
logic whatsoever. Chmn. Merl also noted his
frustration that the codes were not enforced with
regard to the parking across the public right-of-ways.
RECEIVE AND FILE
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g. City Council minutes of October 13, 1992.
Comm. Suard noted Item 12, confirming the Commission
had sent the Council its recommendation in terms of
open-space in the R-1 modification. He felt the City
Council, at its wish, used the "bulk" vote and denied
the R-1 height study, but approved the decrease in R-1
open space, thereby increasing bulk in conflict with
the advisory vote. He felt no logic was being dis-
played. The Commission agreed this issue would be
brought forward during the meeting with the Council,
asking the Council's interpretation of the advisory
vote and for direction from the Council.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
a. Comm. Suard reiterated his earlier request that Staff
investigate how address signs for commercial buildin~s
are being enforced to assure that visible numbering is
placed in visible locations. The Commission agreed
this would be a Commission policy that it be imposed
on all development that comes before the Commission.
b. At the beginning and during this meeting, the Commis-
sion experienced problems with the microphones,
necessitating Comm. Di Manda's use of a substitute,
hand-held microphone during the entire meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by the Commission to adjourn at 10: 38 p.m. No
objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true
and complete record of the action taken by the Planning
Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of November 4, 1992.
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Rod Merl, ChaiT Michael Schubach, Secretary
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Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON OCTOBER 20, 1992, AT 7:01 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Oakes.
ROLL CALL
Present: Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chinn.
Merl
Absent: None
Also Present: Michael Schubach; Planning Directory,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to
APPROVE the following Consent Calenda+ items:
Minutes of October 6, 1992,
Resolution P.C. 92-54, A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN AMEND-
MENT TO ALLOW ON-SALE BEER AND WINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A
RESTAURANT AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 37 14TH STREET.
Resolution P.C. 92-55, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A RETAIL/AUTOMOTIVE BUILDING _AND. AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1414 PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY.
Resolution P.C. 92-56, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF INTENT TO INITIATE A TEST AMEND-
MENT TO PROHIBIT OR ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS FOR THE
CREATION OF SECOND UNITS PURSUANT TO STATE GOVERNMENT CODE
5852.2.
Resolution P.C. 92-57, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
APPROVE TEXT AMENDMENT OF SECTION 10 REGARDING STANDARD
CONDITIONS FOR ON-SALE AND OFF-SALE ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS
AND REVISE THE STANDARD CONDITIONS OF CONDITIONAL USE
PERMITS.
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AYBS1
NOBS1
ABSBN'fa
ABS'fAIRa
Comm. Di Monda, Mark ■, Oake•, Cbmn. Herl
None
None
comm. Suar4
CQJOWHICATIQNS FROM THE PUBLIC
Jim Ro•enberger, 1121 Bayview Drive, wrote a letter which
he read into the Commission's records to ·avoid confusion.
He strongly objected to the political commenta ·made by a _
Commissioner. He requested the Commission redeem itself
with regard to "bootlegs", while noting the Major dur-
rentlr owned a "bootleg" unit, by sending a letter to the
Counc l requested support of the Commission'• action.
PUBLIC HEARING
YAB 92-3 --VARIANCE TO B1JeOH SECOND LBYEL SALLffAJ iQ CQYIR REQUIRS;P OPSN SPACB AND ADOPTION or AN EHYIRQHMENtAJ. HlliGM'IVB DECLARATION AT 2510 TRI STRAND.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant proposed a covered foot
bridge connecting two sections • of the second story to
provide direct access between sections. The building is
non-conforming to open space requirements; with the
proposed bridge further decreasing the open space. Staff
agreed that impact to neighbors and open space was
minimal, but noted the bridge would add structure bulk.
Staff felt the requirements to make a finding could not be
met, as the bridge would be for convenience rather than
for unusual physical characteristics. Staff recommended
denial.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7214 p.m.
Michael Kent, project architect, stated the proposed
additional would allow ciroulation of visitors without
disrupting the residents. Many relatives and friends etay
with them. When the owners brought the property, they did
not know it was non-confirming. He stated the lot and
house square footage, noting that 1315 square feet was
open space, The owners wish to make the house floor plan
usable and convenient for them. Comm, Oakes discussed the
placement of a hallway door with Mr. Kent, who stated it
was for the residents' privacy, with the study being used
as an office. Comm. Marks determined the hallway would be
used often by guests, in order to avoid the study. Comm.
Di Monda felt the design could be better, noting other lay
outs could be used to solve some of the problems. He
explained the reason a a finding would or would not be
made.
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Bd McDowell, 2510 The Strand, detailed his personal ·
history, noting he has retired in Hermosa Beach. He
stated granting the Variance would help the house "work",
noting he has many house guests.
Joyce McDow•ll, 2510 The Strand, explained the functioq of
the "study", and the convenience the bridge would
represent.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 7129 p.m.
Comm. Oakes noted the Commission must think about the
entire community, ae well as individual needs. The pro-
posed bridge boxed in the building, which was contrary to
the open apace requirements.
Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Kent the legal requirements
to which the Commission adhered when granting approvals.
Comm. Di Monda felt the project did not qualify for a
finding of unique or special circumstances. He felt if an
open space decrease were allowed, then the surrounding
area residents had that same right.
Chmn. Merl noted thia application seemed minor, but the
Commission has an obligation to make the findings~ without
such findings, the grantin9 of a Variance had no basis.
While aupportive of remodel~ng, he felt the finding• could
not be made in this instance.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to
APPROVE Staff's reoommendation to DENY a variance to allow
a second-level hallway to cover required open space and
adoption of an Environmental Negative Declaration at 2510
The Strand.
AYBS1
NOBS1
AB8BNT1
ABSTAIN1
Comm. Di Monda, Mark ■, Oakes, Suard, ·c1uun.
M•rl
Non•
None
None
Chmn. Merl stated this action was subject to appeal within
10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92•16 & PP 92-6 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ANP PARK-ING PLAN AMBNDMENTS TO ALLOW A SNACK SHOP TO CONYJ!iRT TO A
RESTAURAHT WITH INCREASED OU'l'DOOR SSATING, WITH NO
N>PITiOHAL fMKING AND AN ADOPTION OF AN ENYIRQNMINTAL NEOA'l'IYI DECLARATION A'1' 517 PIER AYBNVI, HERMOSA CAll,
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval based on
previous decisions made by the PlannJ .. ngr Department. He
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discussed the project background! previous actions by the
Commission, and noted the appl cant would not increase
floor space, but was requesting additional tables in the
private property located behind the sidewalk. He discus-
sed the nonconformity of the parkipg, noting the proposed
change to a restaurant would increase the parking require•
ment. Mr. Schubach noted similar requests had been
recently approved, noting the high percentage of walk-in
and/or bicycle traffic. He commented upon the continued
focus upon the bakery/snaok shop. Staff recommended
Conditions to include construction of a barrier, provision
of a bicycle raok and limited hours of operation.
Comm. Di Monda questioned the fact that restaurant parking
is based upon the gross square footage (including
restrooms, kitchens, halls, etc.), not the number of
seating. He felt parking should be based upon the number
of seats and questioned the number of seating becoming an
issue. Mr. Schubach noted the establishment was primarily
a bakery; seating would create the possibility of a future
restaurant. Comm. Di Monda felt that, at some point,
seating should be reviewed. Comm. Marks determ.ined the
distance from the building front to the ourb as
approximately 10 feet, with possible encroachment into the
sidewalk area. Comm. Oakes expressed concern regarding
the trash area capacity, to which Mr. Schubach responded
that area met current requirements, further discussing the
possible requirements with Comm. Oakes.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7147 p.m.
Jim Lienghot, 517 Pier Avenue, explained he was from Viet
Nam, had bought the bakery two years ago, his customers
were primarily walk-ins or road bicycles, noted that
during the evening hours and that he would not be
competing for parking spaces. He also stated his bakery
was located near publio parking facilities. He asked that
he r eceive a fair decision and hie application be approved
in order to improve his business.
comm. Oakes discussed current seating and the requested
increase with Staff and Mr. Lienghot. Eight seats are
currently in place; the area will be made level and
additional seating provided.
Sidney Leothor, adjacent property owner supported the
application. He stated he would allow four of his parking
spaces to be used by Mr. Lienghot. He approved the
changes being made downtown, stating a ffsense of neighbor-
hood" was returning.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chinn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 7156 p.m.
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Comm. Marks discussed with Mr. Schubach the sanitary
conditions required and reviewed by the Health Department.
Comm. Oakes felt adequate parking was available within the
area, and was pleased to see additional "night-life" bus-
inesses increasing. She expressed concern regarding the
esthetics of the proposed barricade. Comm. Di Monda sug-
gested acceptable materials be specified; i.e. s twisted
aluminum, iron, etc. Comm. Oakes requested the proposed
barricade be presented as a Review Item to the Commission
prior to installation. Comm. Suard suggested imposing a
limitation in the use of paper products within the outside
seating area, equivalent to that imposed upon Java Man.
' KOTIOH by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE
application CUP 92-16 and PP 92-6 with the oonditions
recommended by Staff and the changes as discussed1 the
railing will be resubmitted as a Review Item and paper
products within the outside seating area will have the
same limitations as imposed upon Java Man.
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ABSENT1
ABSTAIN•
Comm. Di Monda, Marke, Oakes, Suard, CbJDn.
Merl
None
None
None
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been approved,
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
Tanya Bode, Hermosa Beach resident, presented to the
Commission correspondence and videos for its review prior
to the next scheduled meeting.
TA 92-t TEXT AMENDMENT TO PROHIBIT QR ESTABLISH REOUIREHENTS FOR TBS CRBATXON OF SBCONP UNITS PURSUAN+ TO
S1'A'l'B OQYERNMBNT coos 65852,2.
Mr. Schubach stated State Government Code Section 65852.2
set forth the requirements and defined "second units" with
the apparent intent to address the housing supply and
affordability problem by encouraging cities to allow
second units in existing developed areas. If cities do
not allow these units, the opportunity is created •for
local residents to obtain looal government approval. Mr.
Schubach noted two C.U.P. requests for second units in
single-family dwelling areas had been received, which must
be approved/denied pursuant to set criteria, or adopt an
ordinance within 120 days.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had prepared two alternative
ordinances, presented as Alternatives A and BJ_ of which he
detailed, as ·well as the methods of applicat on for each,
for the Commission. Comm. Di Monda commented upon the
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energy given by Staff to this proposed ordinance, which
creates the ability to turn some sections into multi-
family areas, rather than investigation findings to pre-
clude the second units from occurring. He asked if the
General Plan needed to be amended; noted the City's
density, parking prob l ems and impact upon City services.
He also asked if the City Council was aware of this item,
why nine years had passed prior to this item being
addressed, and commented the Commission should have had
the opportunity to review a pam~hlet covering this subject
and issued by the League of Cities. Comm. Di Monda stated
this item was not initiated by the Planning Commission,
but that it was being presented again. Comm. Di Monda
expressed concern that the Commission would be reacting to
an application which is arguable as to if it falls under
the ordinance, already, feeling it might allow those
people with "bootleg" units to legitimatize them. He felt
the issue was being rushed, and perhaps in the wrong
direction.
Mr. Schubach stated the item was initiated by Planning
Staff; the correction would be made prior to submittal to
City Council. He stated little energy had been expended,
since this was an amendment to the Code allowance, which
required allowance be made for "granny units". He
explained the hardship in assuring the occupant was over
62 years of age, noting if the person was 61, they did not
qualify. Other cities had felt age limitation was not a
good idea and had initiated appropriate ordinances. He
stated Staff was simply eliminating the section was
stated, 11 62 years of age," changed "640 square feet". to
"700 square feet" to qualify one-bedroom units. He stated
the current terminology in Section B could cause serious
problems if taken to court. Mr. Schubach then explained
the action time limits and the procedures necessary to
process this amendment, noting the lack of time in which
to make the necessary findings. He felt current actions
would not exclude future opportunities to review the
issues and take appropriate actions.
Comm. Suard and Mr. Schubach discussed the provisions for
bachelor-type units within the R-2 and R-3 Zones versus
the proposed unit space of 700 square feet.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:25 p.m.
Betty Martin, 257 27th Street, requested the terminology
be changed, to which Mr. Schubach responded that it had
been and that she had an "old" copy. She commented the
tenants were supposed to be related to the property owner,
to which Mr. Lee responded single-family resident tenants
did not have to be "blood" related. He noted the City
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could include provision that onlr owner-occupant could
make application for the second unit, which would provide
restriction.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 8:28 p.m.
Comm. Oakes confirmed with Mr. Schubach the approximate
location of the impacted lots and that parking require-
ments must be met by the entire lot if a second unit was
built.
Comm. Suard determined the City had approximately 52% R-1
lots, other cities' "norm" was a lot higher, and suggested
this would be a reason for exemption. Mr. Schubach noted
the risk was in being challenged, defining the particular
item requirements for prohibition of second units.
Mr. Lee stated State Law required specific finding of
adverse impacts be made, which included specific factual
support. He stated the ordinances are sent to the Dept.
of Housing and Community Development and closely reviewed
by housing applicants. He explained the difficulty in
developing those findings within the short time frame.
Mr. Lee underscored the point that the opportunity to
develo~ an ordinance is lost if not completed within the
specific time limit, which had prompted Staff to take
action on this item. He discussed the possibility of
readopting another ordinance with the specific findings
requirements, noting the review of the second units would
probably be under the State provisions. He had found that
the Appellant Court was usually very harsh on cities for
taking actions which would lessen housing opportunities
and/or prevent second units. Mr. Lee stated the purpose
of the suggested terminology was to make it legally
defensible. He recommended adoption of an ordinance with
the "most teeth" at this time, stating the Commission must
ask itself if the standards were reasonable and tough
enough.
Comm. Oakes felt adverse effects would be created if
second units were allowed, which would perhaps justify
exemption. She stated Hermosa Beach was a small city with
small lots. She suggested higher numbers be used. Mr.
Schubach stated findings would be necessary in order to
implement Comm. Oakes suggestion, and that perhaps the
courts would find it unreasonable. Chmn. Merl concurred,
stating the findings would need to be extremely specific.
Comm. Di Monda compared Beverly Hills to Hermosa Beach,
commenting that city did not allow people sleeping and
camping on the street, truck trailers parked on the street
and had homes located on 6 to 20 acres. He expressed
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concern that the report was insubstantial, while the
impact on the City's quality of life would be high. He
strongly opposed adoption of the Text Amendment, request-
ing a comparison of other cities defense against this same
problem, as well as notation as to which were successful,
not successful and why. He also discussed with Mr. Lee
the City's options as to future actions if the amendment
were approved. Mr. Lee stated he did not see prevention
from adopting an initial ordinance under Subdivision A,
and subsequently, after Staff has had adequate time to
develop s~ecific adverse impacts that could be created by
second units, amend the Municipal Code to preclude second
units. Mr. Schubach stated most cities had adopted Sec-
tion A and expressed concern that, with the short notice,
findings would be legally defensible. •
Comm. Marks clarified that the State would overrule the
City's Master Plan and Zoning Plan, allowing over-
population, to which Messrs. Schubach and Lee agreed,
givin9 examples of previous requirements by State
a9enc1es. Comms. Di Monda, Oakes and Mr. Schubach then
discussed the impact upon reasonable, required o~en space.
Comm. Di Monda requested that Staff investigate the
actions taken by Manhattan Beach regarding open space
requirements. Mr. Lee stated that if the Commission were
to adopt Subdivision C, it instruct Staff on a priority
basis, to investigate and present findings within the time
limit. .
Comm. Suard suggested obtaining an advisory opinion from
the State regarding the excessive multi-unit problem,
other cities be queried, and work on a Subsection B
~roposal. Mr. Lee felt the State's response would be that
it was a legislative decision based upon individual facts
related to the community, which the City must supply.
Comm. Suard suggested the request be made. He felt the
State's Section 5, limiting to 30% of living area, could
be added to the "700 square foot" Section, resulting ~n a
state-ment, "The second unit has a maximum floor area of
700 square feet and cannot exceed 30% of the existing
living area."
Comm. Marks suggested this item be used as a means of
leverage to clean Hermosa Avenue, illegal second uni ts
would be made to comply or close. Mr. Lee stated the
question as to whether or not "bootlegs" (which are not a
legal usage) are second units can be addressed through the
local ordinance; a code enforcement issue. Comm. Marks
noted that many "bootleg" units are separately metered and
easily identified.
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MO~IOH by Comm. Oakes to ADOP~ TA 92-4, Text Amendment,
Alternative A, with addition of from the State Code
Section B.1, "the unit is not intended for sale and may be
rented," Section 5, "any increase in the floor area of an
attached second unit shall not exceed 30% of the existing
living area" and change Subsection A first paragraih,
third line to read, " ... unit to an existing single-fam ly
dwelling". Motion failed due to lack of a second.
Comm. Di Monda hoped that after passing Alternative A,
Alternative B would be reviewed. He stated the
Condominium Code established a limit of 900 square feet,
rather than the 700 square feet being recommended for this
action. Mr. Schubacn stated another 700 square feet
provision was in the Condominium Code. Comm. Di Monda
stated he wished the square footage to be 500. Mr.
Schubach stated if 700 square feet was required! it would
be chanaed prior to presentation to City Counc l. Comm.
Di Monda referenced State Ordinance, Line Item tC.7,
noting the architectural re,1riew was in the Condominium
Code but not the R-1 Zone second units. Mr. Schubach
agreed, stating it would be covered through the c.u.P.
Mr. Lee suggested architectural review in the R-1 Zone be
included as a provision, if the Commission so wished.
Comm. Oakes agreed to an amendment to the motion.
AMENDED MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl,
to ADOPT TA 92-4, Text Amendment, Alternative A, with
addition of from the State Code Section B.1, "the uni~ is
not intended for sale and may be rented," Section 5, "any
increase in the floor area of an attached second unit
shall not exceed 301 of the existing living area", change
Subsection A first paragraph, third line to read, " ••• unit
to an existing single-family dwelling" and include a
provision to require architectural review relating to
second units within the R-1 Zone.
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HOES1
ABSBNTI
ABSTAIH1
Comm. Di Monda, Mark•, Oakea, Suard, Chmn.
Merl
Hone
Hone
Hone
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda that the Planning Commission send
a letter to the City Council asking it to reconsider the
open apace study forwarded to it by the Planning
Comrnisaion1 specifically pointing out this Ordinance.
Mr. Schubach stated that had been already included at the
Council's next scheduled meeting, asking that the study be
done. Comm. Di Monda requested a letter be sent stating
that if a percentage of open space is required, that the
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single-family home character be preserved, because of thia
ordinance. The Commission concurred with this request.
AMSNDED MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard,
to direct Staff to present to the Commission ordinances
cast by other cities (Carmel, Beverlr Hilla, Santa
Barbara) that have attempted to deal w th this issue,
include the Dept. of Housing and Community Development
opinion and contact the League of California Cities. Ho
objection•, so ordered.
A break was taken from 9:20 to 9130 p.m.
UIWUQS
CON 90-16, 17, 18, 19 --EXTENSIONS FOR EXPIRED CQNPitIQHAle yss PBRHJ;s FOR FOUR TtfQ-UNIJ CONDOMINIUMS.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended a six-month
extension by minute order, discussed previous Commission
and Citr Council action relative to this item and stated
the app icant had experienced difficulty obtaining finan-
cing. He stated the plans had been plan checked and
approved for building permit issuance, with the only
remaining obligation being the building permit ·fee
payment. He explained the findings the Commission could
make by minute order.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 9s37 p.m., Chmn.
Merl invited members of the audience to speak. No one
wished to speak relating to this item.
Comm. Suard noted that all three proposed atruotures were
designed to a JS-feet height. Comm. Di Monda referenced a
previous presentation made which established it was _.cornpa-
tible with the surrounding area, and the plans did .conform
to the intention. Comm. Oakes felt this was important to
reference. Comm. Mark• eetabliahed this would be the
first extension.
HOl'ION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmn. Marl, to
APPROVE Staff'• reoommendati,on to extend the c.u.p. for
six months, to January 22, 1993, by minute order.
AYBS1
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ABSBNl'I
ABBTAIHI
comm. Di Monda, Hark ■, Oakes, Suard, Chmn.
Herl
None
None
None
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SS 92-7 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION
116O(D) OF THE ZONING CODE REGARDING DRIVEWAY GRADES.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff was asking the Commission to
choose one of the recommended alternatives and direct
Staff to schedule a text amendment for public hearing. He
discussed previous actions by the Commission, as well as
the concern regarding driveway grades. He discussed the
exception allowed by Section 1160 (d), noted the intent
would be achieved by providing blends or transitions to
eliminate potential of vehicles scraping the ground. No
specific guidelines are available, therefore, determining
if ground scraping would occur is not an easy task.
Inconsistency in application is possible as the Planning
Commission is the decision maker in the cases of condom-
iniums or precise development plans. He then detailed the
proposed Alternatives A, B, C and D to deal with the
problem, noting that Staff generally supported Al terna-
tive D, but would like to conduct further research before
making a specific ordinance recommendation. He then
discussed Alternatives Band C, noting Alternative A did
not seem appropriate, given the small lots and varying
sloping lots.
Comm. Marks felt the criteria should be the vision level
from the vehicle; suggesting landscaping be maintained at
a certain height and, based upon the setback from the
beginning of the building, the corner should be a clipped
at a minimum of 45 degree angle, for vision purposes. He
felt Staff address that potential problem, noting the
situation was dangerous, allowing no vision of pedestrians
or oncoming vehicles. Mr. Schubach stated that criteria
could be established if Alternative B were used. Comm. Di
Monda felt the criteria could be established with the use
of Alternative D. He stated that when the review is made,
Staff present concise information to the Commission, as
some County and City documentation is confusing.
Comm. Oakes liked the idea of a graduated scale. She did
not feel this was a Planning Commission issue, but rather
the decision should be based on facts, suggesting an
appropriate formula be decided upon. Comms. Oakes and Di
Monda agreed that "25%" was excessive. Comm. Oakes stated
railings and walls should be included in the review and
supported Alternative D. Comm. Di Monda felt all the
information should be returned to the Commission, noting
that Culver City's written description dealt with
Paragraph I and other cities probably addressed the same
issues. Comm. Oakes felt the decision should be completed
at the level of the Public Works or Planning Departments,
not at the Planning Commission level. Chmn. Merl felt the
issue of vision and slope had merit. The Commission
agreed it currently did not have enough information.
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MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to
study Alternative D and to incorporate the comments made
by the Planning Commission. No objections, so ordered.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
Mr. Schubach noted the special study November 4, 1992
meeting hearing is still under study and will not be
presented.
Chmn. Merl stated the tradition of one meeting held in
December would probably be followed, to which the
Commission agreed. Comm. Di Monda suggested a note be
sent to the Council reminding them the Joint Meeting
should be held in December, and asking them to set a
date. The Commission agreed it would be available the
first Thursday in December.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Memorandum from Bill Grove, Building Director,
regarding design limitation:s for professionals.
c. City Council minutes of September 22, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
d. Memorandum from Carol Williams, Senior Building
Inspector regarding a permit issued for an addition
and roof deck at 926 Monterey Blvd.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
a. Comm. Oakes requested the base of the trees along the
greenbelt be trimmed up to a height that would afford
visibility beneath the trees. This would help stop
people from sleeping under those trees at night. The
Commission requested a a letter be sent to the City
Manager, which explained the situation and requested
the trees be trimmed up to a reasonable height.
b. Comm. Marks requested the status of the Ocean Drive
parking situation. Mr. Schubach stated it had been
postponed, was still under consideration and the
subcommittee had not finished with its review. Comm.
Marks noted the project had been ongoing for two years
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and expressed his concern since parking enforcement
was not taking place; the problem was not being
solved. Comm. Di Monda stated the subcommittee had
met with the community, but needed four to six weeks
before a report could be completed for the City
Council.
c. Comm.· Di Monda requested a memorandum be sent to the
City Manager asking if a competition for the design of
the pier could be put into motion. He noted the
concept had been very well received with the design
community and a lot of interest has been expressed.
He wanted to get some motion going, and asked if the
Planning Commission needed to become more involved.
Comm. Suard thought the competition was a good idea
and suggested the Beach Reporter be used, as it had
cooperated in other competitions, previously.
d. Comm. Di Monda noted Pacific Coast Highway at 9th
Street (across from the Mobile Station) had barricades
erected there to prevent left turns. He stated the
area was an embarrassment; trash, falling signs,
broken
plastic items. He felt barriers should be placed
correctly, with landscaping, ground cover, etc. He
requested a letter be sent to the City Manager
regarding clean up of this area, to which the
Commission agreed and directed Staff to comply with
this request.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by the Commission to adjourn at 10: 08 p.m. No
objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true
and complete record of the action taken by the Planning
Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of October 20, 1992. /2 /1 .
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON OCTOBER 6, 1992, AT 7:01 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:01 p.m. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, C,hmn. Merl
Comm. Suard
Michael Schubach; Planning Directory
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comm. Marks requested that Staff investigate and report
back to the Commi ssion the status of the parking study
being conducted by the Public Works Dept.
MOTION by Comm. of Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks,. to
APPROVE the following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of September 15, 1992,
Resolution P.C. 92-52, A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO
APPROVE AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 13-7 (b) TO ADD GREATER
THAN 50% ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE
FAMILY DWELLING AT 433 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Resolution P.C. 92-4, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMIS-
SION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO ELIMIN-
ATE SECTION 7.2-27 REGARDING CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF CONDO
CONVERSIONS.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Cbmn. M~rl
None
Comm. Suard
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wi shed to speak regarding an item not included on
the meet i ng agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
CUP 92-12 & PARK 92-5 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND
PARKING PLAN AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW ON-SALE BEER AND WINE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRON-
MENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 37 14TH STREET, LA PLAYITA
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Recommended Aotio111 To approve the request.
Mr. Schubach stated this application is to allow the sale
of beer and wine in conjunction with _an existing
restaurant and additional dance floor area for a restroom
without additional P.arking. Staff recommended approval
subject to conditions. He then presented an alternative
to approval. Mr. Schubach stated service of beer and wine
would be cons i stent with the restaurant service, explain-
ing it had not been previously obtained due to the Health
Department's requirement for separate male/female bath-
rooms. Outside bathrooms and indoor storage space are
proposed. Mr. Schubach discussed Staff's concerns
regarding the restaurant's location in an "impacted area,"
but noted this was an existing restaurant within that
area, with the change having limited impact on the
existing operation. Therefore, it was felt that no
additional parking was needed.Staff recommended the
restaurant be allowed to stay open until 11:00 p.m. due to
the operation being a restaurant and in a residential
area. An alternative to listing the conditions was
discussed, which would allow future Section 10-7
amendments to apply. Mr. Schubach then outlined the
improvements made by the applicant and noted no complaints
or other problems had been experienced since the outside
dining area had been opened.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:10 p.m.
June Williama, Manhattan Avenue, stated the restaurant
would be helped if windows were allowed along the alley
way and requested the Com.mission approve allowance of the
windows. Chmn. Merl stated such approval was outside the
jurisdiction of the Commission, to which Ms. Williams
agreed, but thought such a declaration would ferhaps
influence the Board of Housing Appeals. CoIOJne. D Monda
and Oakes reiterated such appr oval would be outside the
authority of the Commission. Ms. Williams stated the
applicant would be arriving at about 7:30 p.m.
After discussion, at 7:15 p.m., the Commission agreed to
CONTINUE this item to the end df the Public Hearings in
order allow the applicant the opportunity to testify.
CUP 92-13 & PDP 92-8
PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Recommended Action1 To approve the request.
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Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval subject to
conditions. He highlighted the minor changes noted in the
"supplemental" received by the Commission, noting the
front door access proposal should include two steps rather
than using a handicapped access ramp. He described the
pro~osed construction, business operation and facilities,
not1.ng a C.U.P. is required to authorize the automotive
uses and a P.D.P. amendment is required since a small
portion of the building height exceeded the f iret tier
limit. Staff did not see this building as causing
significant view impacts, given the height of existing
buildings nearby, and the number of parking spaces was
more than adequate. He discussed a condition to mitigate
potential traffic intrusion concerns, the proposal that a
6-feet high block wall be constructed which would include
landscaping, as well as landscaping at the front of the
·property, proposed decorative base/pole cover for the sign
and sign specifications. He stated the project was con-
sistent with ~lanning and zoning standards and satisfied
design guidelines, while noting doubt that the storage
capacity was adequate .
Comm. Di Monda recommended the block wall finish be the
same as the building (Page 7.3), to which the Commission
agreed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7126 p.m.
Alan Glaser, 1414 Pacific Coast Highway, project
developer, stated the structure would appear to be a
retail building while being used for automotive uses and
requested approval of the application. He felt .the
proposed uses and building design would be an asset to the
city, the building would serve as a noise buffer. Comm.
Marks commented Mr. Glaser on the building design. Comm.
Oakes discussed with Mr. Glaser handicap design require-
ments as they related to this building and landscaping of
the site. He stated the tenants wished the sign as tall
as possible and requested approval of a 10-feet monument-
style sign. He also wish to lower the planter walls to
allow banking of dirt in the front landscaping area. •
Comm Di Monda discussed with Mr. Glaser usinq the original
design of a 42-inch wall, the 18-inch curb and allowing
the sign to be higher. Comm. Oakes discussed with Mr.
Glaser the building signs, which would be back-lighted
metal cans with plastic-front le~ters.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 7:39 p.m.
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Comm. Di Monda requested Staff assure the landscaping is
ample and the block wall be the same finish as the build-
ing. Comm. Oakes suggested landscaping continue across
the front and be planted with a specific "bushy" plant.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to
APPROVE application CUP 92-13 and PDP 92-8 with the
changes to the rear block wall and landscaping.
AYESs
NOES1
ABSENTS
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakea, Chinn. Merl
None
Comm. Suard
Hone
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been a\>proved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92-12 & PARK 92-5 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND
PARKING PLAN AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW ON-SALE BEER AND WINE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF AN SNVIRON-
MENA/U, NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 37 14TB STREET. LA PLAYITA
At 7:41 p.m., Chmn. Merl reopened the Public Hearing.
Harold Cohen, applicant, apologized for being late. Comm.
Di Monda suggested a licensed person sign the drawing, to
which Mr. Cohen agreed. Comm. Marks expressed concern
regarding the open area leading to the bathrooms. Mr.
Cohen responded he had no other option and had a five-feet
high fence for security purposes.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 7:45 p.m.
MO'l'IOH by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to
APPROVE CUP 92-12 & PARK 92-8 with the condition the
drawings must be signed by a licensed professional·.·
AYES&
HOESs
ABSEHTs
ABS'l'AINs
Comm. Di Honda, Harks, Oakes, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Suard
Nona
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been a~proved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council. •
Due to the number of audience ~articipants, Items 9 and 10
were switched on the agenda, with Commission consent.
CUP 91-26 & PPP 91-5 CITY COUNCIL REFERRAL BACK TO
PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A 70-ROOM HOTEL TO RECONSIDER THE
HEIGH'l' OF A BUFFER WAI,1, AND BUILDING HEIGHT AT 125 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY,
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Recommended Actions
approval.
'l'o sustain Planning Commiaaion
Mr. Schubach discussed the background of this item,
including the applicant's notification that he wished
outdoor seating in conjunction with the piano bar be
considered and the Commission's decision to require a
12-feet wall on the property. He discussed •the
alternatives available and the City Council's and
Commissions' s previous actions, He stated if a tall,
free-standing wall were to be installed, it would impact
the appearance of the hotel; an 18-foot high wall would be
e9uivalent to a two-story buildin~ at the property line,
with a wide base, substantial footings or support columns.
Based upon the advice of the City Attorney, the Commission
had allowed the proposed height to be grandfathered. He
stated if the design were decreased to a height of 35
feet, the roof would have a lower pitch or be flat. Also,
the applicant had relocated the bar due to the noise
factor and had identified the outdoor seating area. Mr.
Schubach noted that Staff did not see a problem with the
outdoor seating area, but the Commission might wish the
area enclosed. Chmn. Merl clarified that the wall and
building heights were being considered at this meeting.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:56 p.rn.
Jeremr Yeh, 49 So. Catalina Ave., Pasadena, presented a
build ng elevation drawing, stated the design was an
excellent one and the status structure would draw "high-
class" customers. He felt it was illogical to invest the
necessary large amount of money in a badly designed
building, which would result if the roof were lowered.
His investors would not invest in such a project. He
stated the economy and real estate market is poor,
explaining the hotel business would be only a projected
60% occupancy and the other on-site businesses were nec-
essary for success. Mr. Jeh felt views would · not · be
blocked and stated if the wall were required to be taller,
the business would fail, since hotel occupants did not
come to look at a wall. Comm. Marks noted the rooms did
not face the ocean. Mr.-Yeh stated a view was available
to the rooms.
Pam McHew, 718 1st Place, stated the Commission should not
allow the project, noting many excellent hotels already
exist within the City. She supported the higher wall to
assure privacy for the neighbors, decrease noise levels
and maintain property values. She discussed the applic-
able ordinance and a petition signed by 49 people, stating
she and others would stop the project as their neighbor-
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hood would be •iwrecked" if the project goes through.
Comm. Oakes confirmed with Me. McHew that Ms. McHew had
purchased three of her four properties while knowing they
were adjacent to commercial properties. Ms. McHew
discussed with Comm. Oakes the existing separation wall,
proposed business, the possibility of other commercial
businesses and their impacts. Comm. Oakes noted the
structural requirements of an 18-feet high wall and stated
her preference for landscaping rather than such a wall.
Comm. Di Monda stated Ms. McHew was requesting the
Commission deny the project based upon discretionary
power. He a .eked what he • reaction • would be if the
Commission exercised discretionary power relating to her
properties. She stated this had already happened ·to her.
Comm. Di Monda stated her property could be impacted in
the future if the Commission chose to use "its discretion-
ary power. " •
Jerry Newton, 2041 Circle Drive, stated he lost property
rights through down zoning, noting it was unique to have
commercial and residential properties side-by-side. He
stated residents were vocal and acted as "de factortt for
the Zoning Board or Planning Commission, noting it was not
a~propriate for residents to try to stop development
within the commercial area. He supported Staff 'e recom-
mendation, opposed Ms. McHew's statements and urged
approval by the Commission.
Gary Waylon, property owner within Hermosa Beach, stated
his approval of the Commission's actions and the City of
Commerce's endorsement of the project. He stated business
will listen to the community through the dollar vote.
Rick Learned, 1727 Monterey, stated the business community
supported this project, stated satisfaction with the Comm-
ission's previous actions and noted support of the
project. .. _.
John Bowler, 833 Hermosa Avenue, Chairman of Hermosa Beach
Restaurant and Tavern Owners Assoc., commended the Commis-
sion on the thoroughness and thought that had went into
the project and thanked the Commission for its change in
the manner of handling of business within the City. He
stated new businesses should be welcomed.
Patricia Spiritus, 115 Longfellow, stated her support of
the project.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 8129 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda addressed the issues requested by the City
Council relating to (1) the City Attorney's position, (2)
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height limit (noting the applicant had lowered the hei~ht
limit resulting in Comm. Di Manda's dissatisfaction with
the building's appearance), (3) 18-feet high wall (of
which he was not convinced was necessary and would not use
discretionary power to impose that requirement) and { 4)
stated he d.1.d not feel the Commission should act as an
economic Board as the success or failure of a business did
not relate to Planning Commission decisions. He supported
Staff's recommendation. Comma. Marks and Oakes also sup-
ported Sta-ff' s recommendation.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm.
APPROVE Sta££' s recommendation to sustain
Commission approval.
Oakes,• to
Planning
AYES1
NOES:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Chmn. Merl
None
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN1
Comm. Suard
Nona
Chmn, Merl stated the Commission's action reconfirmed its
original decision on the items sent for reconsideration.
SS 92-8 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEX? AMENDMENT OF SECTION
10 REGARDING STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR ON-SALE AND OFF-SALE
ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS AND REVISE THE STANDARD CONDITIONS
OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
Recommended Actions To recommend approval of text amend-
ment.
Mr. Schubach stated this study was to consider amendment
to Section 10-7 and 10-8 and to change mandated conditions
within Article 10. He discussed the background and the
proposed draft relating to the alcohol amendment; .with a
distance of 100 feet from residents as the minimum
requirement, prohibition of alcohol sales with gasoline
sales, and the Commission's approval being necessary prior
to the Police Chief's requirement of a doorman at
establishments. Staff recommended minimum standard pro-
visions for other conditionally permitted uses be changed
to recommended conditions. Comm. Oakes discussed the
Police Chief's response to the suggested amendment change
relating to his authority with Mr. Schubach. Comm. Di
Monda noted that this change would allow the City to
review C.U.P. revocation based upon problems brought forth
by the necessity of a doorman being reg_uired. Comm. Di
Monda noted the way the amendment was written, the busin-
ess owner would be deprived of procedural due process, to
which Comm. Oakes agreed. . ·
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:42 p.m.
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Jim Listener, 2715 ELLOESTY, noted a 25,000 sq. ft.
shopping center was exempt from the 100-feet minimum
requirement. He discussed the possibility of loophQles
bein<1 found, resulting in alcoholic sales and customer
parking next to residents. He requested the amendment be
rewritten.
June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, did not want the distance
changed, or if it is, it be changed to 200 feet. She did
not want more liquor stores within the City, feeling the
impact upon residents was not offset by the taxes
received. The existence of liquor stores is not conducive
to the entrance of quality retail stores.
John Bowler, 833 Hermosa Beach Avenue, said that Ms.
Williams was imagining problems and there was no reason to
assume problems are caused b,Y sale to adults with no
back-up history. He stated nice restaurants have liquor
licenses. He urged the Commission this item carefully.
Many liquor stores also supply -bread, milk, etc., to the
neig}:lborhood and function as part of that neighborhood.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 8151 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Mr. Schubach the allowances
and restrictions of "grandfathered" liquor stores, estab-
lishing the restrictions and that the c.U.P. "runs with
the land." Comm. Di Monda suqgested the Commission review
retail operation requirements and close those require-
ments, which would make it difficult small closed
businesses without parking to reopen. Comm. Oakes felt
the parking impositions, alone, would wipe out many of the
small neighborhood markets regardless of the sales of
liquor, while encouraging the "7-11" type of store. The
Commission discussed with Mr ., Schubach the exempt_ion from
100 feet distance allowed to the large shopping centers.
MOTIOH by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oak~s, to
recommend APPROVAL of the text amendment with the deletion
of Section I and to change Zoning Code, Section 10-7, Sub-
section 8 to read, in essence, " ... the Police Chief can
authorize and require a doorman and then must submit a
report of his concerns regarding the problems which
required a doorman to the Planning Commission, automati-
cally initiating a C.U.P. review by the Commission. The
owner must expeditiously appear before the Planning
Commission to submit resolution to the stated problem."
AYES1
NOE81
ABSENT1
ABSTAIN&
Comm. Di Monda, Mark•, Oakes, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Suard
None
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HEARINGS
RESOLUTION OF INTENT TO PROHIBIT OR ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS
FOR THE CREATION OF SECOND UNITS PURSUANT TO STATE GOVERN-
MENT COOE SECTION 65852.2.
Recommended Actions To adopt proposed resolution.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had examined State Code and
discovered a provision requiring cities to allow second
units in the R-1 Zone or to (1) create an ordin~nce
setting certain standards, (2) all conditions must be met
as stated in the State Law, (3) applicable Health, Safety
and Welfare reasons must be cited as to the prohibition or
(4) a certain area within the City must be set aside which
allows the second units. After discussion wi th the City
Attorney, it was decided to examine two options.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 9:17 p.m., Chmn.
Merl invited the applicant to speak.
James Listener, 1015 4th Street, felt this item would
apply only to large lots which would be able to supply
acceptable parking. He stated it was restrictive, had not
be used during the past 10 years, the City has an
ordi nance and suggested that no action be taken at this
time. Mr. Schubach responded the City was not covered, as
the State has adopted a new law which the City must
address.
No one else wished to speak relating to this item.
Comm. Di Monda noted the numerous revision dates
(including 1983) and requested that the City Attorney be
made aware and answer how the City handled this item
during the recent past. Mr. Schubach not~d the
amendments, which were being discussed during this
meeting, were recent, with the subject item being added in
1990.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to
ADOPT a Resolution of Intent to study a text amendment
regarding the creation of second units.
AYE81
NOES1
ABSENT1
ABS1'AIN1
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Suard
None
REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF AN EXPIRED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR FOUR TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUMS.
Mr. Schubach stated S tate law in clear regarding extension
of tentative. maps,, bu t no~.c.u.P.'s. The applicant felt
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his situation was uni9ue as his only remaining step was to
pay the building permit fees. The City Attorney felt the
grandfather clause did not apply in this case, also the
applicant felt it did. The Commission could grant the
extension, and, if so, the grandfather clause would apply .
The Commission could take a straw vote to approve or the
Commission could decide to require a re-submittal for
project review under current ordinances.
There were_no questions of Staff, and at 9:25 p.m., Chmn.
Merl invited the applicant to speak.
Jerry Olquin, 1235 2nd Street, distributed and described
photographs of tall buildings located near the 1;>roposed
site area and presented a plot plan to the Commission. He
stated he would have paid the fees necessary to avoid the c.u.P. expiration if he had been aware of the requirement.
He stated confidence that the project could now move for-
ward and would be in conformation with adjacent properties
and comply with the most current building requirements.
He explained that by the time he had been able to put the
project financing together, the C. U .P. had expired and
requested an extension be granted. Ne stated he had over
$500,000 already sunk into the project and would probably
have to declare bankruptcy if the project did not 90
forward. He stated his deadline was the middle of this
month. Mr. Olquin explained to Comm. Marks that he used
to, but no longer processed plans, himself. He hired this
done in order to utilize his time in other ways.
Comm. Di Monda explained the Planning Commission's intent
was not to hurt developers or business people. He felt
this reaction was hysterical and led by a local architect
who felt the Commission was "out to get" everyone. He
reminded everyone this was definitely not the acti on of
the Commission. He reviewed the built-up area ver11Jus the
proposed plan, r ecommending a finding be made that this
proposal met the intent of the new ordinance. Mr.
Schubach stated Staff would return with a report withi_n a
two week period. Chmn. Merl concurred with Comm. Di
Manda's suggestion, feeling this item was brought to the
Commission based upon a technicality. Comm. Oakes also
concurred, expressed the wish that an example was .not
being set, but felt this item had simply been an oversight
and the project would comply with the current ordinance.
MO'l'ION by the Commission to make the finding that this
request for extension met the intent of the new ordinance
and APPROVE the extension of the expired c.u.P. for four
two-unit condominiums. No objections, so ordered.
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STAFF ITEMS
a. ~entative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Request from City Treasurer to hold public hearing
regarding decreased commercial sales tax revenue.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 9:55 p.m.,
Chmn. Merl invited testimony.
June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, felt the Planning
Commission did not have the authority to expend public
hearing funds unless authorized by the City Council
and that .the memo should have been directed to the
Council. The audit was an ongoing practice, with the
same audit firm having been used. She stated the
Chamber had already met with the City Manager to
discuss ways to improve the business license process. -
She stated it was appropriate for the Planning
Commission to relay the memo to the Council, feeling
this was not the proper time, nor place.
Comm. Di Monda responded that during this meeting, the
Commission was asked to step outside its jurisdiction,
and now it was being told this item was not within its
authority. He did know whl the City Treasurer thought
this was necessary, but fe t that appointed
commissions did have a responsibility to elected
officials. He supported the re9uest by the City
Treasurer, as other elected officials, when in the
interest of the City, the Commission was re9uested to
perform certain actions. If the City Council directed
the Commission not to move forward with this item, it
would be within their right. Mr. Schubach stat~d .
funding was available for public notice in Easy •
Reader. Comm. Di Monda felt the request was to come
in front of the Commission and hear public testimony
about the City can do to assist business. Public
noticing would not be necessary, as people could speak
not the "Communications" section of the agenda. After
discussion among the Commission members, the
Commission felt the City Treasurer should be notified
the Commission felt it would be more appropriate that
a ~resentation be made under agenda Section 5. No
objections, so ordered.
c. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for
October 13, 1992 meeting.
RECEIVE AND FILE
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d. Memo regarding Planning Commission meeting date change
on 11/3/92 due to the election.
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The Commission agreed to meet on November 4, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
Planning Department activity report of August 1992 .
RECEIVE AND FILE
f. Memo regarding R/UDAT meeting.
RECEIVE AND FILE
g. City Council minutes of September 8, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER I'l'EMS
a. Sub-committee for municipal pier design.
Comm. Di Monda expressed interest in holding a
competition for the design of the ~ier project. He
felt this would cost nothing, new ideas would be
obtained and, perhaps, this would help formulate what
the community wished for the pier area. The winner
might receive the designation of Associate Architect.
The Commission requested that Mary Rooney report as to
the Coastal Commission's response to this concept.
Comm. Marks was requested to review the outline he had
previous!¥ presented, add any new ideas or concepts
and distribute the revised outline to the other
members of the Commission, to which he agreed~.-..
Comm. Di Monda asked for addition definition as to
24-inch and 36-inch box trees, to include size, ..
height, cost, burden to developer, etc. Mr. Schubach
agreed that Staff would supply this information.
Comm. Di Monda expressed concern regarding the La
Playita design, handicapped requirements and City
liability in commercial projects. He suggested an
agenda item to discuss a requirement that commercial
projects are to be signed off by a licensed profes-
sional who is knowledgeable so that the burden is not
completely upon the Building Dept.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by the Commission to adjourn at 10: 17 p.m. No
objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true
and complete record of the action taken by the Planning
Commission· of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of October 6, 1992.
Michael Schubach, Secretary
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Date
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Meeting called to order at 7:06 P.M. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Suard.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard
Chmn. Merl
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Mary Roony, Community Research Director,
Sylvia _Root, Recording Secretary
Comm. Di Monda pulled Resolutions 92-46.
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MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
following Consent Calendar items: \
Minutes of the August 4, 1992 Planning Commission Meeting,
Minutes of the August 18, 1992 Planning Commission Meeting,
Resolution P.C. 92-49, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PARKING PLAN
AMENDMENT TO ALLOW PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO BE CALCULATED PURSUANT
TO SECTION 1170, CONSOLIDATED OFF.-STREET PARKING, THEREBY ALLOWING •
A TAKE-OUT AND DELIVERY RESTAURANT ("DOMINO'S") AT 1117 AND 1121
AVIATION BOULEVARD IN THE SHOPPING CENTER AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER
OF PROSPECT AVENUE AND AVIATION BOULEVARD. ••
Resolution P.C. 92-51, A RESOLUTION OF INTENT OF THE. PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO STUDY A
GENERAL PLAN CIRCULATION ELEMENT AMENDMENT TO CLOSE FIRST PLACE
AND/OR FIRST STREET AT PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, WEST SIDE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. ~erl
None
None
None
Comm. Di Monda felt this alternate Resolution P.C. 92-49 was too
specific, noted a typographical error, q~estioned the truth of item
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"C", acknowledged item "D" as true, and stated paragraph "C" was a
possibility. He stated he preferred the first Resolution that was
considered be forwarded to the City Council, with Commissioner
Suard attending the City Council meeting to further explain the
particulars of this item. He objected, stating he was not sure all
the Findings had been made, expressed doubts about the "third
story"; commenting enough questions had been made to raise the
question for additional study. He felt strongly that if 'Mr. Suard
did not appear at the Council meeting and explain the issues, the
study would probably not be approved. Y
Comm. Suard felt the comments were necessary in order to fully
inform the City Council of the rational and options related to this
Resolution. Comm. Oakes agreed. ,.
MOTION by Chmn. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE
Resolution P.C. 92-46 as it stands.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Oakes, Suard
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Chmn. Merl
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE the
original Resolution P.C. 92~46.
Chmn. Merl felt items had been included in the alternate Resolution
which had not been discussed during the meeting and did not reflect
the actions of the Commission at that time, to which Comm. Di Monda
agreed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Phil Wagner, 601 1st Street, furnished photographs to the
Commission and stated his objections to a neighboring property on
which three unlicensed cars had been parked, dirt dumped and barbed
wire fences erected. Mr. Schubach stated Staff would refer this
complaint to the Building Department for enforcement actions.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
NR 92-6 AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 13-7 (b) TO ADD GREATER THAN
50% ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT
433 MONTEREY BOULEVARD (continued from July 21, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue to September 15, 1992
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Mr. Schubach stated the request was originally continued to allow
for plan revisions to base the height measurement from the natural
grade, removal of unpermitted fill dirt and provision of additional
upward expansion information. Staff had not received resubmitted
plans, although the fill dirt had been removed. The architect
stated the plans would be ready at the September 15, 1992 meeting.
Therefore, Staff asked for continuance. < ~
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:17 p.m. No one~wished to
speak regarding this item, and Chairman Merl closed the Public
Hearing at 7:17 p.m.
MOTION by the Commission to CONTINUE NS 92-6 to the meeting of
September 15, 1992, to allow the applicant to provide revised.-
project plans to the Commission, for its review and consideration.
NO OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
SS 92-1 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING RESIDENTIAL
FENCES ALONG VALLEY DRIVE AND ARDMORE AVENUE (continued from March
17, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To set for public hearing.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, explaining the Commission's
alternatives and background of the study, Staff's belief that more.
than three-feet high fences should not be allowed in :the front
yards and proposal being focused to side yards on corner lots. He
then discussed proposed exceptions which would apply predominately
to the subject streets, as well as several other "collector"
streets, commenting allowance of higher walls would better protect
property in specific high-noise areas. Staff suggested that a
C. U. P. be obtained to allow over-height fencing, and explained
associated conditions and provisions. He noted the proposed
ordinance would allow property owners to either legalize the
unpermitted fences or re-construct the permitted fences or walls.
Comm. Marks discussed the requirements of Zoning Ordinance, Section
12.15 with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:28 p.m.
Dan King, 1947 Valley Drive, referenced the block wall built on his
property during January 1992, stating he would like his property to
also be included and covered. Mr. Schubach responded the ordinance
would not affect fences built on public right-of-ways, over which
the Public Works Department and City Council had authority. Mr.
King requested the ordinance be updated to cover private property.
He also discussed with Mr. Schubach the need for justification for
the six foot wall in order to obtain a C.U.P. Mr. King requested
that a grapdfather clause be included to include the large number
of existing non-permitted fences, to which Mr. Schubach responded
that they generally were grandfathered.
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No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 7:34 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda felt the original focus had been on the Valley/
Ardmore corridor, that allowing oversized fences along that
corridor, the greenbelt would possibly be enhanced. He thought a
designation change, not a C. U. P., was to be used. -ffe.: stated
Staff's report was not what he had expected. Mr. Schubach stated
the study originated from a request by a property owner with a lot
with street frontage on thr ee sides and a six-feet fence height
fronting Valley Drive. Staff felt all lots should be allowed
review if grant ing was to be given to certain ones. He stated
Staff could limit t he review i f the Commission so desired. Comm.
Di Monda stated a r eas within the City are qui t e different and very·•
special. Therefore, the question of "fairness", is not appropriate
when considering dissimilar properties. The Greenbelt corridor was
the area, which should be recognized as different from other areas,· -
which the Commission wished to specifically deal with at this time.
Chmn. Merl confirmed the Commission's focus had been upon the
corridor as a parkway. Mr. Schubach stated a factor had been the
Ingleside Drive case which prompted the original investigation;
indication had been given to the applicant that corner lots (such
as his) would be evaluated. He stated corner lots were also an
issue. Comm. Di Monda stated the intent was to review the Valley/
Ardmore greenbelt; not to have additional C.U.P.'s.
Comm. Marks discussed with Mr. Schubach consideration of .shrubbery
or hedges as barriers and, therefore, under the governing Code of
12.15.
Comm. Oakes felt too much area was being reviewed, parameters
should be reiterated to assist Staff in its review and presentation
to the Commission.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chrnn. Merl, to DIRECT Staff
to bring back a study focusing on Valley /Ardmore, furnish graphic
information for the Commission's review, make recommendations as to
why and how fencing would be appropriate and what type of
landscaping migh t enhance the greenbelt corridor, and to exclude
the C.U.P. proc e ss for this item.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Corc.m. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Hone
None
SS 92-4 SPECIAL STUDY TO RECONSIDER RELOCATING THE SIGN
ORDINA.."l'CE BACH TO T HE ZONI NG ORDINANCE, A..1\JD TO EXAMINE OTHER
POSSIBLE AMENDM EN TS TO THE SIGN ORDINll..NCE (continued from May 19 ,·
1992 meetiq,g).
Recommended Action: To continue this project for further study.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended further direction regarding ·
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the scope and content of changes to the ordinance and continue the
hearing. An alternative would be to form a committee which could
form a consensus as to what should be done regarding the sign
ordinance. He explained the sign ordinance, its regulations and
impacts, as well as giving comparisons of the ordinance to those of
other cities. Mr. Schubach noted due to the complexity, the report
is not totally complete. Recommendation was made to plac e:~ cap on
the allowable area for temporary signs and a duration reduction to
60 days; that allowable sign area requ i rements speci£ically state
that they are for "permanent" signs and projecting signs-be
prohibited. He further itemized Staff's recommendations . .for
further changes.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation at 7 :55 p.m. No one,-
wished to speak on this item, and Chmn. Merl opened discussion by
the Commission at 7:55 p.m.
Comm. Suard agreed with Staff's proposed changes and comments,
while noting that the City had no illumination limits. He
suggested adoption of a statement that the illumination is not to
be out of character with the surrounding area, to which Mr.
Schubach agreed. Comm. Oakes supported Comm. Suard' s comments.
Comm. Suard questioned the practical consequences of projecting
sign elimination, the differences between an awning sign and
projecting sign s and how the proposed regulation of this item would
function. Mr. Schubach stated the monitoring was accomplished
through neighbors/ complaints and the C.U.P. process. Comm. Suard
recommended that the number of free-standing signs be based upon
the number of street frontages to the particular property;
Comm. Marks commended Staff's report as being very inclusive, to
which Comms. Di Monda and Oakes agreed. Comm. Di Monda stated the
original involvement was due to deliberation of temporary banners
and signs, and the problems associated with that issue. He felt
the sign ordinance should be similar in concept to that of
Manhattan Beach's, with attention directed to the illumination
issue, a "temporary sign" definition should be included and a
review made as to where the signs are being placed. Comm. Di Monda
then discussed specific signs within the city, objecting to the
possibil i ty of the City becoming a giant bulletin board. •
Chnm. Merl concurred that the report was a very comprehensive
study.
MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to CONTINUE SS
92-4 to allow Staff to consider and respond to the Commission's
comments made during this meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Mr. Schubach estimated this i tern would be brought back during
October 1992.
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STAFF ITEMS
a. Conceptual design of the Municipal Pier Renovation Project from
the Community Resources Department.
Mary Rooney, Community Resources Director discussed the prelim-
inary pier designs presented by Brian Mi tchell, archit~ct. She
stated that, based upon the preliminary designs and suggestions
from the Commission, a conceptual framework will resul t which
will be used for final design of the pier renovation and ~
preliminary feasibility analysis for project implementationr
She then explained the project history and purpose to.the
Commission and audience. She stated authority had been
received from the Mountains Recreation and Conservation
Authority to allow the City to be written into an upcoming
ballot measure for $1,500,000 pier renovation, as well as other
immediate funds to initiate this project. She requested candid
opinions of the rendering to be reviewed during this meeting.
Comm. Di Monda expressed concern regarding skateboarding. Ms.
Rooney stated the accommodations required for handicapped
person s resulted in access to skat eboarding, although the City
did wish to discourage that activity. Comm. Di Monda suggested
the City Attorney be contacted for an opinion of this issue.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Ms. Rooney handrails, noting the
concerns regarding rusting and visual obstruction. Comm. Di
Monda asked if an elevator was necessary if access to the
lighthouse was denied. Ms. Rooney responded research could be
conducted as one of the options.
Comm. Marks stated he was appalled upon receipt of the packet
because a budget seems to have been fixed, with no notation as
to what the budget constituted; no program or priorities
developed. He objected to input being requested of the
Commission after the fact. Ms. Rooney responded the actions
taken were at the direction of City Council and th~ p~oject had
been initially presented to all Commissions and City Council.
Mr. Brian Michell, Sazaki and Associates, addressed Comm. Marks
statements by requesting the drawings be viewed with specific
design suggestions in mind, as well as very conceptual at this
point. He asked that the concepts be reviewed and commented
upon. He, then, presented three renderings of the proposed
pier project, describing each of the renderings to the
Commission. Within each of the alternatives, the concepts
addressed were: (1) the entrance plaza, (2) the pier length
and end.
Mr. Michell stated concerns addressed in each rendering
relating to the entrance plaza included (1) seating for
pedestr1ans, (2) access steps on the north side leading to the
beach, (3) connection of the pier to The Strand, and (4)
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maintenance of the utilities in the current positions. He
explained that a lifeguard facility was on the south side of
the pier, which was not under the City's control. He discussed
the elevation grades addressed by the renderings, as well as
the concept of steps versus sloped surfaces and traffic
patterns with the Corrimission.
Comm. Di Monda offered constructive criticism as follows: (1)
the pier should continue the geometry of the street leading to
the pier or does something unexpected, which is not addressed
within the three schemes presented, (2) the seating areas -
should take advantage of the views, (3) the glass blocks ar~
inadequate as a focal point, rather a metaphor for the City
should be considered, (4) centralized seating areas with trees
were a good idea, (5) free standing lights was a good concept ·
and (6) perhaps a prototype of the lights could be introduced
for both the pier entry and the pier, itself.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the proposed railing with Mr. Michell
and Ms. Rooney. Ms. Rooney stated Staff had expressed concern
regarding any type of barrier from a visual and security
standpoint. Chmn. Merl stated the concern related to the
materials, rather than the specifics, with the concrete piles
being maintained. Mr. Michell stated the pier, itself, did not
need to be rebuilt; the changes would be for cosmetic purposes.
The Commission then discussed different treatments than those
suggested with Mr. Mitchell, included expression or concepts
which should be incorporated within the pier design. Comm.
Oakes felt the adjacent structures should be incorporated into
the design concepts and more details should be shown in order
to perceive the impact. Mr. Michell stated the only guidelines
received was to put a restaurant at the end of the pier. Comm.
Oakes felt the materials and proportion was very important to
the design, suggesting a theme historical to Hermosa Beach and
the uniqueness of Hermosa Beach be considered.
Comm. Suard felt keeping "quaint" was important, the glass
block would not be appropriate, the light house re fle cted the
flavor, integration of the lifeguard house was a "mus t", and
integration of the lighting scheme and The Strand improvements
was a necessity. He felt PVC pipes might be considered. Chmn.
Merl concurred with the Commission's previous statements. He
felt Alternative A was too busy, Alternative B was good, but
there was potential available with the lighthouse and.handling
of the lighting to take advantage of the available views. Mr.
Mitchell reiterated the lack of City's control of the lifeguard
structure as well as the concerns of that lifeguard station.
Comm. Di Monda said the pier should be a continuation of the
street, commenting grasses could be incorporated with the sand,
the pi~r was extremely important and should be "an experience
within itself", with the end of the pier making a·statement.
Ms. Rooney commented that input will be addressed during the
RUDAT process occurring during Octooer 1992. She suggested the
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Commission architects participate in the RUDAT process. The
damage that occurred during 1988 had been repaired. She stated
the ideas and suggestions made by the Commission woulq be
considered and perhaps incorporated into the project.
Chmn. Merl invited audience participation at 9:18 p.m . .• .
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Betty Martin, 27th Street, asked if the bathhouses were the
responsibility of the City. She suggested showers be.built.
Chmn. Merl responded they were the responsibility of the ~
County. Comm. Suard suggested the County be contacted
regarding incorporation as part of the overall plans.
The Commission, at the request of Ms. Rooney, discussed
volunteering its expertise and time towards this project.
The Commission's comments could be presented to RUDAT for
incorporation, although the Commi ssion has not concurred during
all its suggestions. The Commis sion discussed subcommittees to
address design and program. Upon request of the other
Commissioners, Comm. Marks agreed to serve on a subcommittee _
to address establishment of a program to be discussed by the
Commission at its September 15, 1992 meeting.
b. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for September
8, 1992 meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated he would be attending that meeting, to
discuss the hotel issue.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. Planning Department activity report of July, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
d. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
e. City Council minutes of July 28 and August 11, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
a. Letter to Air Quality Management District regarding outdoor
spray painting.
Comm. Ui Monda asked if the A.Q.M.D. could be notified that a
problem exists and ask if the complaints received could be
investigated, to which Mr. Schubach responded a letter would be
forwarded.
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Mr. Schubach stated the City Council had adopted the
Commission's recommendation regarding the actions of
Multivision, and a letter will be forwarded.
Co mr.,. Di Monda noted that realty signs are appearing wi thin the
greenbelt area. He felt the City Manager should be rnarl e aware
and r ecommended a letter be sent to the South Bay Board of
Rea ltors regarding this illegal practice and the ord~nance will
be enforced; ~
ADJOURNMENT
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MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
9:37 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the f ore going mi nute s are a true and
complete record of the action t aken by the Planning Commission of
·Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of September 1,
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY
-OF HERMOSA-BEACH HELD ON JULY 21, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:06 P.M. by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Marks.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Marks, Oakes, Suard and Vice-Chmn.
Di Monda
Chmn. Merl
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Lynn Terry, Deputy City Engineer
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Wilma Burt, Hermosa Beach, requested that the following be pulled:
Resolution P.C. 92-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-(b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 1015
4TH STREET.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to AP~ROVE the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the July 7, 1992 Planning Commission meeting
POLICY STATEMENT P.C. 92-2, A POLICY STATEMENT OF "THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, INTERPRETING A
DO-IT-YOURSELF BREWERY AS A HOBBY SUPPLY BUSINESS AND THEREFORE AS
A PERMITTED USE IN COMMERCIAL ZONES. •
Resolution P.C. 92-33, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, OF INTENT TO INITIATE A TEXT
AMENDMENT TO ADD "DO-IT-YOURSELF BREWERY" AS A PERMITTED USE AND TO
ADD DEFINITIONS OF DO-IT-YOURS BREWERY AND HOBBY SUPPLY.
Resolution P.C. 92-35, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST TO ALLOW
EXPANSION AND REMODELING TO TWO UNITS WHICH ARE NONCONFORMING TO
DENSITY, PARKING, AND SETBACKS, LOCATED AT 1616 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 92-37, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING-COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE
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PERMIT TO ALLOW ON-SALE BEER AND WINE AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IN
CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1100 PACIFIC COAS/l' HIGHWAY
#2, EL POLLO INKA.
Resolution P.C. 92-38, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW LIVE ENTERTAINMENT (LIVE MUSIC) AND
DANCING IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITH ON-SALE GENERAL
ALCOHOL AT 2701 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, THE BEACH BOYS CLUB.
Resolution P.C. 92-41, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #21754, AND A PRECISE DEVEL-
OPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1010 17TH STREET
Resolution P.C. 92-42, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW A SNACK SHOP WITH LESS THAN REQUIRED PARKING, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1314 HERMOSA
AVENUE, THE SQUEEZE CUP.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Oakes and Suard
None
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Chmn. Merl
Wilma Burt, Hermosa Beach, asked if part of the open space was to
be the garage roof top. She stated the Council had objected
another project which had part of the open space on top of the
garage. She objected to allowing this project to have a garage
open space allowance, since the same was not granted to others.
Comm. Oakes stated this project's garage open space was in addition
to the required amount. Mr. Schubach stated this project was a
nonconforming remodel, which can be out of conformance with regard
to open space, set backs, height, etc. and still go .~P to a 100%
increase. Ms. Burt felt this was not pertinent. Mr. Schubach
reiterated his statement, noting this was not a new construction.
Ms. Burt objected to Mr. Schubach's statements. Mr. Schubach
stated the applicant was not deleting, adding on, or making the
building more nonconforming than it currently is and no open space
was being deleted. He offered to review the plans with Ms. Burt.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda suggested Ms. Burt accept Mr. Schubach's
invitation to review the project's plans.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE the
following Consent Calendar item:
Resolution P.C. 92-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-(b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT-VALUE AT 1015
4TH STREET.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Oakes and Suard
None
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Chmn. Merl
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PDP 92-6 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WAIVER TO ALLOW THE
INSTALLATION OF A RELOCATABLE CLASSROOM AT 1645 VALLEY DRIVE,
HERMOSA VALLEY SCHOOL.
Recommended Action: To approve said Precise Development Plan and
Waiver.
Mr. Schubach stated the amendment was necessary for compliance with
Section 9.5-8, and a waiver was also required because the proposed
classrooms were only set back 15 feet. He described the proposed
location and noted the buildings would appear to be "temporary" in
appearance although they would be installed on permanent founda-
tions. Staff recommended approval with a condition relating to the
air conditioning unit's noise level. Comm. Marks discussed the
affiliation between the existing and proposed classroom buildings
with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:20 p.m.
John Nyberg, project architect, Newport Beach, presented
photographs of the existing classroom buildings. He stated it was
logical and less expensive to locate the proposed buildings next
the to current ones. Comm. Marks suggested relocation of the
proposed buildings in order to obtain a 15-feet set backs. Mr.
Nyberg stated the current buildings had the same set back as that
proposed. Comm. Marks objected to what would appear to be a "wall
of buildings". Mr. Nyberg felt the current location was the most
feasible in maintenance of expense and appearance. Comm. Oakes
objected to the two-foot separation between buildings, to which Mr.
Nyberg explained the manufacturer needed that space in order to
attach the proposed buildings without using a crane. Comm. Oakes
discussed with Mr. Nyberg the proposed six-foot plywood piece which
was to be placed between the buildings.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda closed the Public Hearing at 7:26 p.m.
Comm. Suard discussed with Staff the safety aspects of the plywood
piece located between the two buildings.
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MOTION by Comm. Marks to APPROVE PDP 92-6. The motion failed due
to the lack of a second.
Comm. Marks felt the project exhibited poor use of the property,
objecting to the proposed wall of buildings. Comm. Oaks agreed,
and requested a drawing that would display the appearance of the
plywood strip between the buildings. Mr. Schubach suggested the
"gap" be filled with a facade. Comm. Oaks suggested the applicant
work with the Planning Department, presenting a solution for this
"gap" as a condition of approval.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE PDP
92-6, with a condition that the applicant satisfy the Commission's
concerns by bringing to the Planning Department diagrams showing
how the expansion joints work between the two buildings.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Oakes, Suard and Vice Chmn. Di Monda •
Comm. Marks
None
Chmn. Merl
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated this item was approved, subject to
appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92-10 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING
AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP AT 900 AVIATION BOULEVARD, S & S AUTO-
MOTIVE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, noting the application was
submitted in accordance with the amortization ordinance, describing
the property and location, building and parking facilities and
hours of operation. He noted the applicant _stated the current
operation provides "minor" auto repair. Mr. Schubach commented
that the applicant's plans were not accurate to scale. On week
ends, the lot is used for overflow parking by the adjacent car
wash. He stated the business was not a source of major problems
and was compatible with surrounding uses. Staff's concerns related
to an over-abundance of wall signs and the lack of a ieparating
barrier. If the Commission desired landscaping, Staffed suggested
it be provided in conjunction with a barrier along the front
property line. Mr. Schubach defined the conditions suggested by
Staff and the hours of operation recommended by Staff. Comm. Suard
and Mr; Schubach discussed the difference in hours of operation
between the car wash and this application. Comm. Oakes and Mr.
Schubach discussed the signs, which were not in compliance with the
current sign ordinance. She suggested an area for planting and
commented upon the lot striping. Comm. Di Monda suggested the
large curb cut be replaced with a curb and, perhaps, a tree be
planted.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:40 p.m.
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Steve Urbanczyk, 900 Aviation, explained his understanding that he
only had to install a curb, remove most of the signs and contain
the garbage dumpster, to which he agreed. He stated he had only
seven parking spaces, discussing the measurements with Comm. Marks,
and stating the current parking was sufficient for his uses. Mr.
Lee clarified that the 10 1/2" length of the spaces, as marked in
the submitted plan, is not a legally recognized length within the
Code, and he would be asked to re-stripe these spaces. Mr.
Urbanczyk stated the car wash had striped them in compliance with
the Commission's request. He stated there was no room for any
plants at the curb area. He also noted that he would install a
six-inch curb, but many children would probably be hurt when
exiting the surfboard shop. He felt the curb would be dangerous.
Comm. Oakes suggested he plant vines on the north side of the
property. Comm. Di Monda confirmed the applicant agreed to the
recommended hours of operation.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda closed the Public Hearing at 7:47 p.m.
Comm. Suard felt the applicant should not be required to perform
expensive remodeling, but should clean up the signage.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, to APPROVE
CUP 92-10, as stated.
Mr. Lee, for a point of clarification, asked if this motLon had an
effect upon Condition No. 4 of the proposed CUP. It was determined
that Condition No. 4 would remain as is.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conun. Oakes, Suard and Vice Chmn. Di Monda
Comm. Marks
None
Chmn. Merl
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated this item was approved{ subject to
appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
TEXT 92-2 TEXT AMENDMENT TO LOWER THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT IN R-3
AND R-P ZONES AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARA-
TION.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment
and adoption of an Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff h·ad l?repared a draft Resolution to carry
out the directive of the Council and summarized the Resolution and
its impact to property owners. He then detailed other cities'
height limitations. Mr. Schubach stated the question before the
Commission was whether one method should apply in all cases or if
another criteria for determining if a project should -be allowed to
exceed 30 feet should be considered. Comm. Suard asked if Staff
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had an estimate of the number of reviews which would be required if
allowances for pitched roofs were not allowed, to which Mr.
Schubach responded, that in most cases, these situations are
currently reviewed.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 7:55 p.m.
Shirley Castle, Monterey Blvd., stated the audience could not hear
the Commissioners and commented that something should be done about
the sound system. She referenced a "Daily Breeze" article which
stated the U.S. Supreme Court had deemed that property owner's
could not have their property rights taken. She stated· the City
was taking away rights every time the properties were down zoned,
and referenced her own property as an example. Ms. Castle stated
no notices had been sent to R-3 owners, feeling this was an
injustice to the residents. She felt this meeting was not an open
hearing, because it was not being immediately televised. She
suggested that owners of R-3 property also sue, as was done in
North Carolina. She requested the Commission "stop the nonsense".
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, felt it was a disgrace that
Hermosa Beach had been taken off the air, feeling the cable company
had the resources to put "everyone" on television. He noted that
he was an unaffected observer who was concerned regarding unneces-
sary Code changes, such as this one. He felt the City did not
encourage any new construction, but encouraged an excessive
"renter" base. He felt new homes would revitalize the City, while
stating the current political system discouraged this type of
growth. He asked if this proposed action would encourage or
discourage poorly-maintained properties to be recycled. He
condemned the current political actions being taken within the
City, referencing in particular three City Council members. He
stated properties owners' rights were being taken away; the
proposal was not fair and suggested the proposal be printed in the
"Easy Reader". He felt this issue should be left alone and the
public should be notified of any proposed actions relating to this
issue. -
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Ste. 300, strenuously objected
to lowing the height limit without notification to all effected
property owners. He stated it would cost approximately $600 for
the mailing. He noted that many R-3 properties were currently
single-family home sites; a lot of people would be pushed into the
precise development plan for a single-family home. He felt the
report was not complete; feeling this item was a "bone to be thrown
to a Council that requires it," but not what the Council or Plan-
ning Department wanted. He expr~ssed his concerns relating to the
language, noting what could be read would not necessarily what
would be enforced, due to ambiguity of language.
Upon being asked by Vice-Chmn. for draft resolution specifics, Mr.
Compton noted the first "whereas", No. C., stating "compatible" is
ambiguous and without structure, which would result in a "hard
line" being taken. He questioned "majority" in Item (A),2), asking
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if this meant 50% +l, and Item (A), 4), asked who would be making
the determination. Mr. Compton stated the proposed resolution had
some good ideas, but the Planning Department had not been given
sufficient time to develop the resolution. He requested this issue
be continued.
Mary McGee, Manhattan Avenue, stated this down zoning would be a
"bag of worms". She discussed her plans to remodel, which was now
being changed. She suggested a design review board be established
and the height limit not be changed. Ms. McGee stated her strong
opposition to lowering of height limits. Comm. Oakes discussed
with Ms. McGee the location of her property and her remodeling
plans.
Gene Dier, 7th Place, stated he agreed with Mr. Longacre's
comments, requested that additional rules not be made. He stated
the City Council is taking aware the rights of property owners and
suggested the property owners get the right to fight back.
Larry Peha, 67 14th Street, discussed the ambiguous wording,
stating more guidance was needed. The stated a 30-feet height
limit would not reduce bulk.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. DiMonda at 8:22 p.m.
Comm. Oakes agreed with the speakers that the draft resolution
language should be clarified. She felt provision should be made to
allow property owners in the R-3 zone to build a single-family
dwelling without being required to appear before the Commission.
Mr. Schubach explained that a precise development plan was not
required for a single-family house if the height limitations were
being met. Comm. Oakes suggested that skylights be allowed to
exceed the 30-feet height limitation. Comm. Suard agreed with some
of the speakers. He stated it was better to have new homes and
better designs than height limits, but noted i;.hat too many people
would take advantage of maximum bulk. He felt the R-1 zone should
have been included in the review and this evaluation, to allow
homes within that area to build to the three-story limit.
After discussion, the Commission members, individually, suggested
the following changes:
(A) "when all of the ... " changed to "when a majority of
the ... ". This suggestion was not unanimous.
(A)2) "A majority of buildings" is to be stipulated as a
fixed amount, "over 60%" was suggested; change
"reasonable" to "a distance of approximately 200
feet" or "a distance of approximately 300 feet
radius",
(A)3)&4) Both are arbitrary. Should state how and who this
will make this determination. These two items should
be simplified and either combined, with No. 4
eliminated or changed to read, " ... designed and
oriented to ... sunlight, view, air ... ",
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(A)S)a It was suggested that the plate line be at 30 feet,
but was not agreed upon by the majority of
Commissioners, as that could be interpreted in many
different ways and the issue addressed bulk, not
plate line and consider architectural design; Staff
is to determine specific, quantifiable guidelines,
(A)S)b&c Clarify the language to clarify a step back will be
used to reduce the volume. It was suggested these
two items be combined, as the issue stated in "d" is
addressed in "c". It was suggested that a trade off
be allowed: for every 1 foot over the height limit
allowed, 2 feet removed from the below bulk; That
"bulk" be directly addressed; Staff is to determine
specific, quantifiable guidelines, and
3.1. Renumber 3.2, 3.3, 3.4 and 3.4 as 3.1.a, 3.1.b and
3.1.c and 3.1.d.
Mr. Lee suggested that paragraph (A) the word "generally" be
struck, and in Subsection (A) 2) , the Commission consider what a
"reasonable distance" might mean and give direction to Staff. Mr.
Schubach stated the ordinance had been made general in an effort to
allow judgment calls by the Commission in cases where a good
project was presented, but the Code did not allow the project to be
built. He noted that in the past,-policy statements • had been
developed when a consensus had been obtained. Mr. Lee suggested
that, in order to give a clearer definition as to the standards
that would be used when making decisions, specific numbers be
stated rather than general requirements. He felt, In that way,
the accusation of "arbitrary" would then be inappropriate. He also
suggested the Commission consider CONTINUING this issue to allow
Staff to return with a reworded resolution, using the particular
matters previously described as examples in terms reduction of
mass, bulk and acceptable esthetic architectural design. Mr.
Schubach commented that if over 50% were the requirement of
buildings on the same block (Item (A)2)], this ordinance would be
superficial, as no one would be able to build over 30 feet.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda referenced the suggested change to (A)2),
requesting Staff to present, at the next scheduled Planning
Commission meeting, graphics via a City zoning map, as to the
impact of 200 or 300 feet distance requirement. He felt the
Commission's intention was to protect property owners and ensure
that they be allowed to enjoy the same rights as others; there-
fore, a review of the graphics was very necessary. Vice-Chmn. Di
Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the definition of "block" as it
applied to this issue. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda requested that Staff
present a determination of impact to stating 40%, 50%, 60~, etc. in
Subsection (A)2), using the "block" definition shown in No. 206, to
the Commission at its next scheduled meeting in August, 1992.
MOTION by Vice-Chrnn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE
TEXT 92-2 to the Planning Commission's first meeting of August,
1992.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
Mr. Dier volunteered his time and computer programming .to assist
Staff in computing the impact of percentages in item (A)2).
A break was taken from 9:20 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.
SS 92-3 --SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING RESIDENTIAL
OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment
and adoption of an Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, detailing the background and
the Commission's previous stated desire to see open space areas
adjacent or accessible to living areas and to make open space a
function of lot size. He noted that, pursuant to the Commission's
previous comments, Staff had made modification, clarification and
minor changes to the open space requirement language. Mr. Schubach
then discussed the Commission's wish that required open space
should be a percentage of lot size, noting this was consistent with
a Housing Element policy statement. He discussed the R-1, R-2B,
R-2 and R-3 open space standards and requirements, stating that
Staff agreed that making open space a percentage of lot size in R-1
would be a reasonable and fair approach, resulting in more open
space on larger lots. He then explained calculations and projected
results.
Mr. Schubach stated · multi-family projects are currently directly
related to lot size, and explained the differences between single-
and multi-family project requirements, as well as the specific
requirements for multi-family projects. He stated Staff modified
the provision relating to 50% multi-family open space coverage,
eliminating confusion and to add flexibility in open ~pace area
design, while not taking away from open space value. Staff
believed a case by case review would be best to discourage
unintended use of the provision. Staff suggested a minimum size
uncovered area should be required prior to allowing any coverage.
Mr. Schubach read the definition of "open space", noting Staff was
comfortable with that definition.
Comm. Suard asked why there was . a maximum on the R-1 zone open
space requirement, to which Mr. Schubach responded the maximum was
reasonable, but could be replaced by "14%". Comm. Suard felt the
limit should be deleted.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 9:41 p.m.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd, Ste. 300, discussed with Mr.
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Schubach the dimensions associated with R-1 lots. Mr. Compton
discussed the walk-street lot access and lack of usable open space,
resulting in a small area adjacent to the alley as "open space".
He felt the 7-feet front yard set back should be included as open
space. Mr. Compton felt that if the front yard set back were used,
open space would be automatically provided and this requirement
would not represent a problem for small lots. He felt the 14% was
reasonable, but was upset that requirements were constantly
modified, which results in more nonconformities. He requested that
the additional open space not be required only at the ground level
in order to make small lots more attractive and more "buildable" to
property owners.
Mr. Compton expressed confusion relating to the fact that it is
fine to have the living space on the ground in R-1, but for
multi-family, the open space must be adjacent to the living space.
He stated single-family homes are being built upside down, to which
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda disagreed, stating condominiums are built
upside down. Comm. Oakes stated that open space did not have to be
next to the living area in single-family dwellings, discussing the
reasons for the open space requirements with Mr. Compton and Mr.
Schubach. Mr. Compton suggested that at least one or two of the
upper-level decks should be allowed to be covered.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 10:15 p.m.
Comm. Marks reiterated Mr. Compton's statements regarding the
inconsistency in requiring open spaces adjacent to living space,
feeling that flexibility should be established regarding open space
at ground level and the upper floors. Comm. Oaks felt maintaining
open space at the ground level was very important. She felt
ability to give smaller lot owners a break by using percentages was
commendable, stating she had not problem with "50% coverage". Comm
Suard suggested that -on the smaller lots, the 14% calculation for
the ground level only, with the ground level reflecting a decrease
as the total unit square footage decreased, with the additional
allotted amount being placed in deck space. ••
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated this issue originated as a response to
boxy, bulky buildings with the open space being furnished by flat
roof areas. He stated it was morE~ desirable to provide open space
adjacent to the primary living areas; there had never been any
intention to reduce ground floor, at grade open space in single-
family dwelling zones.
MOTION by Comm. Suard to APPROVE SS 92-3 with removal of the
maximum, when lots are small (under 1500 square feet) calculations
will be based upon lot size, but continuing the 14%, with a change
in the minimum; maintain the minimum of 210 square feet, but where
the living area is above the ground floor, the remainder of the
open space could be allocated above the ground level, rather than
maintaining the 75% allocation to ground space requirement. The
motion failed for lack of a second.
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Comm. Oakes that the motion was interesting, but felt that most
small lots would be nonconforming remodels rather than no
construction.
MOTION by Comm. Oakes to approve SS 92-3 as written, and with the
conditions as stated. The motion failed for lack of a second.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, to APPROVE
as written, and with conditions, but with the elimination of the
maximum of 560 in the R-1 zone.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Marks, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
Conun. Oakes
None
Chmn. Merl
SS 86-12 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING ADULT USES
AND ADOPTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Reconunended Action: To recommend amending the zoning ordinance
provisions on adult businesses and adoption of the Environmental
Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating this matter has
returned to the Commissions on several occasions, with Staff making
changes, as requested. He discussed the difficulty of establishing
these types of businesses within Orange County and other areas. He
stressed the importance of understanding the point of this
ordinance is that it be as legally defensible as possible, so that
if an establishment does come to the City, it can be regulated.
Mr. Lee added the distance restrictions of more than 200 feet from
the exterior boundaries of residentially-owned property, 1,000 feet
from more sensitive uses (such as schools) and 1,000 feet from one
adult business to another adult business, were established due to
the small geographical area within the City. Mr. Lee stated the
200 feet requirement was the most restrictive that the City could
apply and still have a legally defensible ordinance. Comm. Suard
discussed possible locations and restrictions with Messrs. Lee and
Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 10:24 p.m.
No one wished to speak regarding this subject, and the Public
Hearing was closed by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda at 10:24 p.m.
Comm. Suard discussed with Messrs. Schubach and Lee the parking
requirements for both game arcade and adult business establish-
ments. Mr. Lee explained that adult business' clientele would
consist of adults with cars, while game arcade's catered more to
clientele without cars. Comm. Oakes felt the parking requirement
for adult businesses was excessive, to which Comm. Suard agreed.
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In response to Vice-Chmn. Di Monda's inquiry, Mr. Schubach stated
Staff did not believe the parking requirement was unreasonable.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda referenced Section 2, paragraph 6, which stated
that all of the establishment must be visible upon entrance. He
suggested that a screen or buffer be maintained, with visibility
from that point. Mr. Lee suggested that this section be reworded
as follows: On the third line, strike out "immediately" and after
the word "entrance" and "but shall not be visible as viewed from
the outside of the premises."
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oaks, to ADOPT SS 86-12,.
with changes to Section 2.7 to read, "provide one off-street
parking space per two machines or booths" and Section 2.6 to read,
" .... visible upon entrance, but shall not be visible as viewed from
the outside of the premises."
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Com1ns. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
NR 92-6 AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 13-7(b) TO ADD GREATER THAN
50% ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT
433 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Recom1nended Action: To continue the project.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff felt not enough justification for the
35-feet height had been received from the applicant. He stated
fill dirt appeared to have been observed on _site. Mr. Schubach
explained the property actually consisted of two parcels; one being
a separate five-foot strip which has been used by ·the adjacent
neighbor, although owned by the applicant. He stated the applicant
proposed to use the five-feet section as his rear yard, and stated
the neighbor's rights, nor who actually owned the property, had not
yet been established. Comm. Marks requested a complete section of
the proposed addition and relationship to the rear building be
provided.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda invited audience participation at 10:40 p.m.
Larry Peha, 67 14th Street, architect, stated the issues presented
were new to him. He stated the front portion of the house was only
28.5 feet high, had pitched roofs, and the nonconformance was two
inches in the front yard and the garage set back. He said the
location of the garage was typical of the area. He stated if the
roof were flat, the structure would be below 30 feet. He requested
approval of this application. He discussed his drawing plans, the
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encroachments and current set backs with the Commissioners. Mr.
Peha stated he was trying to keep the integrity of the current
structure and confirmed the adjacent neighbors would be required to
move the fence to their property line.
Paul Garhart, applicant, stated the lot was exactly 31' X 50', but
his lender had placed the back five feet of the lot under separate
title as additional security for the lender. Mr. Garhart has paid
property taxes on both parcels for approximately 24 years. He
stated the neighbors had been using his property to plant flowers.
He wished to build a home in which to retire and he wanted his
property back for his own use. He stated his proposed house would
still be smaller than most of the surrounding homes. He stated the
fill dirt had been brought in to fill a hole, and would supply the
survey if the Commission so wished. He stated the house and ~arage
had been built to Code and was now declared nonconforming, which he
did not understand.
Laura Straton, 434 Bayview Drive, had a survey showing the block
wall (fence) had been in place since 1966. She felt her back yard,
with all plants, would be destroyed when used by the applicant to
build upon. She presented photographs of the back yard which she
had used for 17 years. She stressed that the lots were three
separate parcels. She discussed the necessity of constructing a
block wall upon her property, the need for her review as to the
property title and stated she planned to discuss this problem with
an attorney immediately. Comm. Suard strongly recommended that the
legal review be completed prior to the next Planning Commission
meeting, to which Ms. Straton agreed. Comm. Marks suggested she
check her title report. She stated Mr. Garhart had never used the
five-foot parcel, while she had always used it. She also stated
Mr. Garhart had brought in and dumped two truck loads on dirt onto
his property.
Shirley Castle, Monterey Avenue, stated she had seen the four-feet
of dirt that was brought in. It is held in place by old pieces of
wood and looks like it has been there quite some time. She
suggested the Commissioners visit the site and observe the amount
of dirt there.
Rebuttal
Paul Garhart, applicant, stated he had not obtained a grading
permit, but would have the dirt removed if necessary. He stated he
paid the property taxes and the land was owned by him. Responding
to Vice-Chmn. Di Monda's inquiry, he stated he would be agreeable
to a design that would allow the trees and land slope to remain.
He stated the garage area and driveway were relatively level, and
had been built according to Code.
Comm. Suard requested information
and potential of view blockage.
35-feet tall buildings were found
might have a "majority".
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relating to the sur rounding area
Mr. Schubach no ·..:ed that many
in this area and that the block
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Vice-Chmn. Di Monda expressed concern in that the drawings did not
adequately address the rear yard issue. He stated he would like to
see a section or plot plan and to ask the Building Department to
visually check out the fill dirt issue.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to accept
Staff's recommendation, and CONTINUE NR 92-6 to the Planning
Commission's meeting on September 1, 1992, at which time adequate
drawings are to be presented, the fill dirt is to have been removed
and resolution to the problems of the fill dirt, rear yard and
height issues should be completed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Co1D1ns. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
P-1O VEHICLE PARKING ON PEDESTRIAN WALK STREETS (continued
from 5/19 & 6/16/92 meetings.)
Reco1D1nended Action: To continue to August 4, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Mr. Terry would be presenting the Staff Report.
He commented regarding the Commission's previous recommendation
relating to Planning Commission Conditions, noting Commissioner
concern relating to the intent of the motion. Mr. Schubach asked
Comm. Suard to explain the motion, particularly Item No. 11, prior
to the Staff Report being given.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda invited audience participation at 11:14 p.m.
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes to request
Staff defer the Staff Report and accept Staff's recommendation to
CONTINUE P-10 to the Planning Commission meeting of August 18,
1992.
AYES:-
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Co1D1ns. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Di Monda
None
None
Chmn. Merl
a. Update of the status report regarding fence at 1515 Hermosa
Avenue.
In response to Vice-Chmn. Di Manda's inquiry, Mr. Terry
explained the property owners had cut bamboo to a three-feet
height on the east and north sides, but left a post standing.
City Staff removed a fence portion. An adjacent neighbor
~ requested that the bamboo fencing on the west side of the
property be left in place, which was done. However, a second
work order was submitted tQ the field staff, who have not yet
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responded. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda remarked upon the fact the
field superintendent had taken this matter into his own hands
and made the matter much more complicated that it should be.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda suggested the property owner be billed for
the time spent removing the fence by City employees. Mr. Lee
stated if the fence were built within the public right-of-way,
that action could be a violation of City Code, a misdemeanor.
He felt the City could invoice the property owner for the labor
involved in the removal of an illegally-built fence. Mr.
Terry explained the Public Works Department's policy relating
to this fence removal.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. City Council minutes of June 8, , 18, 23, and 30, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Oakes requested an amendment to the R-1 zone, to establish
the same height requirements as in R-3, be placed on the Planning
Commission's August 4, 1992 meeting agenda, to bring back a
Resolution of Intent, to which the Commission agreed.
Vice-Chmn. Di Monda stated his understanding that the City Council
had voted 4-1 to amend the Municipal Code with respect to parking;
to prohibit parking in the front yard if it did not lead to a
garage. He suggested the Planning Commission send a memorandum to
the City Council at its next meeting, officially asking the Council
if the new ordinance being put into effect would include the front
yards east of Beach Drive on the walk streets; and does that mean
the City will be enforcing the front yard parking prohibition east
of Beach Drive. The Commission agreed to this suggestion.
Comm. Oakes requested better project representation be submitted to
the Commission. She stated the reduced documentation was difficult
to read. Vice-Chmn. Di Monda agreed, requesting a written list
detailing Staff's hand-out to an applicant, including the materials
that are requested from the applicant, be presented to the
Commission for determination as to whether a policy or inclusion
within • the zoning ordinance should be considered. He noted upon
the discrepancies of presentation to the Commission. Mr. Schubach
commented the Commission had previously requested smaller-sized
plans, but Staff would accommodate whatever the Commission prefers.
Comm. Suard asked the status of the video/televised Commission
meetings. Mr. Schubach explained the cable company was
investigating having a II split-channel II and will furnish a time
frame to Staff on July 23, 1992. If the Commission wished to
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change the meeting to Wednesday, instead, this issue should be put
on the agenda for discussion. Mr. Lee confirmed the necessity of
agendizing this issue for future discussion, to which the
Commission agreed.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to adjourn
at 11:40 p.m. No objections~ so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of July 21, 1992.
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Date
P.C.Minutes 7/21/92
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON JULY 7, 1992, AT 7:11 P.M. IN
THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeti.ng called~to order at 7:11 p.m. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Suard.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Marks, Oakes, Suard and Chmn. Merl
Comm. Di Monda
Michael Schubach; Planning Directory
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Chmn. Merl introduced Commissioner Oakes as a new member
of the Planning Commission.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE
the following Consent Calendar items with the following
changes:
Minutes of June 16, 1992
Page 3, Line 1 -CHANGE " .. trash area was too small .. "
TO " .. trash area obstructed side yard
access .. "
Policy Statement P.C. 92-2, A POLICY STATEMENT OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIF-
ORNIA, INTERPRETING A DO-IT~YOURSELF BREWERY AS A HOBBY,
SUPPLY BUSINESS AND THEREFORE AS A PERMITTED USE IN COM-
MERCIAL ZONES. Page 2 refers to another document. This
item was referred to the July 21, 1992 Planning Commission
meeting, at which time to reference document is to be
provided, with an added notation that State and Federal
Laws regarding this subject are being referenced.
Resolution P.C. 92-4, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMIS-
SION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW AUTO DETAILING
IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CAR WASH, PARKING PLAN TO·
ALLOW EMPLOYEE PARKING ON ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND ADOPTION
OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1000 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY, HERMOSA CAR WASH.
Resolution P.C. 92-31,_ A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA DENYING A
VARIANCE TO ALLOW 250 SQUARE FEET ADDITION TO A NON CON-
FORMING TRIPLEX AT 336 THE STRAND AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SAID VARIANCE AT
336 THE STRAND.
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Resolution P.C. 92-32, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COM-
MISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA APPROV-
ING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#.2328'6 AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH REVISED PLANS FOR
A THREE-UNIT :CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 1901 PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Di Monda
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Roger E. Bacon, 1100 Pacific Coast Highway, stated that
Alpha Beta had vacated his property and he had explored
other revenue avenues, which included the parking of cars
on his property. Due to the slowness in completing the
processes required by the City, he had lost the parking
contract. He suggested the City review "temporary usage"
to gain revenue for the town.
PUBLIC HEARING
CON 92-6/PDP 92-5 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #21754, AND A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1010 17TH STREET
(continued from June 16, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional ·use
Permit, Vesting Tentative Parcel Map and Precise Devel-
opment Plan.
Mr. Schubach stated this previously heard item was brought
back due to site problems which the applicant had tried to
correct . Mr. Schubach referenced the soil engineering
report, site photographs, a Building Department report,
revisions submitted by the applicant which provided open
space more than adequate to comply with the new Policy
Statement and the removal of the on-site trailer. He
noted the resolution of approval included a condition that .
the CC&R's be corrected, that a 7-feet minimum clearance
be provided for vehicles and three 36" box trees were
clearly depicted. . He stated the Building Department was
working with the applicant's engineer regarding the issue
of filling the abandoned swimming pool without a permit to
obtain satisfactory soil studies prior to issuing a grade
J?ermit. Mr. Schubach stated he had not had the opportun-
ity to review the soil report.
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Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:22 p.m.
Jacob Mierop, 1218 6th Street, corrected the Staff Report,
stating the pool had not been filled, the dirt was con-
tained within an 8 feet in length, 4 feet in height area
adjacent to his neic;rhbor' s property. He stated he had
made an agreement w1. th his neighbor, Ms. Ford, that he
would pay for a new block wall in lieu of any damage to
the wood fence. Mr. Mierop agreed to remove any fill that
was on his pro~erty and restated his intent to use the
dirt to only fill the pool. Mr. Mierop discussed previous
actions he had taken, as well as his driveway slope, fin-
ished floor height and ventilation of the ground-floor
bedroom with Comm. Oakes.
Bill Gray, 1115 17th Street, owns property directly across
the street from the proposed construction site. He stated
removal of the trailer was appreciated. He requested that
construction debris be removed from the basement. He felt
that enough dirt to fill the pool, as well as the concrete
planner, and had been level out in the front yard. He
expressed his concern regarding neighborhood protection
from the resultant termites.
Jacob Mierop, 1218 6th Street, rebutted the dirt had been
leveled in f rent of the structure in order to remove it
from the fence area. He stated only dry wall was in the
basement.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 7:33 p.m.
Chmn. Merl and Mr. Schubach discussed the removal of the
dirt, as well as steps taken by the Building Department to
assure removal of that fill dirt and its report relating
to this issue. Mr. Schubach stated the applicant would
have to remove the soil, fill in the pool in order to meet
the conditions of approval. Chrnn. Merl commented the.re-
port received from the Building Department did not appear
to meet the Commission"s previous requests. Mr.· Lee
stated the soil report received by the Commission addres-
sed the issue of the uncompacted fill brought onto the
site, however, it did not state exactly what would happen.
He suggested it was appropriate for the Commission to
consider a continuance until a more detailed Building
Department report has been received by the Commission.
Mr. Schubach reiterated the actions taken by the applicant
to date. Comm. Marks suggested removal of the soil· be
made a condition prior to issuance of a building p~r~it,
to which the Commission agreed. Termites should be
. automatically removed when .the wood is removed from the
• site. Comm. Oaks requested that clearance of the driveway
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and the ventilation of the rear unit back bedroom be made
part of the conditions of approval.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE
the project as proposed, with the stipulation that prior
to obtaining permits the applicant provides evidence to
the Commission that he has cleared the earth, filled the
swimming pool and rectified any stated proposed structure
problems in terms of required light, air, ventilation, and
height over driveway, at which time the Commission will
approve issuance of building permits.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Di Monda
None
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been approved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92-7 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW ON-SALE BEER
AND WINE AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A
RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 1100 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY #2, EL POLLO
INKA.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use
Permit adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the app licant is requesting approval
for the on-site sale of beer and wine, as well as approval
of live entertainment with musicians playing Peruvian
music. Seating is for a maximum of 64 customers with
musicians being located in the front of the building. He
outlined the recommended hours of entertainment, as ·well
as operation, noting this location is part of a large
shopping center. Life entertainment would be limited to a
maximum of two.performers and non-amplified acoustic music
on week ends only, ceasing at 10:00 P.M.
Comm. Suard discussed condition #7 with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:51 p.m.
Will Neivez, applicant's representative, introduced · the
applicant, Shirley Felner and stated they would stipulate
to the _conditions of approval. He . requested the enter-
tainment hours . be expanded to include every day of the
week primarily between the hours of 6:00 and 9:00 p.m. He
stated the Peruvian musicians have special wind instru-
ments and a drum, and explained where the musicians would
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be located within the restaurant. He noted the "family"
did have three other operations.
!?,: •
Roger Bacon, ilOO Pacific Coast Highway, as the property
o wn er, discussed his pleasure with leasing to the appli-
c ant, noting the cleanliness, food, bakery and exce llent
o perat ions of the other establishments owned by the
f am ily . He felt the entertainment would be very low-
keyed, with no amplification.
Wesley Bush, Chamber of Commerce, stated his pleasure with
this type of restaurant. He felt the music was unique and
the operation was well-run.
Don Haggerty, 1550 Prospect, felt many previous restaur-
ants have been unable to obtain a beer and wine license,
and therefore went out of business. He supported approval
of the application.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 7:59 p.m.
MOTION b¥ Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE
application CUP 92-7, with an amendment to Item #10 to
allow the Peruvian type of music every night of the week.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Di Monda
None
• Chmn. Merl stated this application had been approved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92-8 --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A SNACK SHOP
WITH LESS THAN REQUIRED PARKING, AN D ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1314 HERMOSA AVENUE,
THE SQUEEZE CUP.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use
Permit adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the bu siness would be primarily the
sale of Italian Ice. Staff believed the bus iness emph asis
was for snack food and qu ick service, with a large
percentage of the customers being pedestrians and am~le
public parking available; a ll of which would justify
reduction o~ the parking requirements . He stated the
previous business had a 4 space requirement, while this
one would require 10 space s and noted the available
options. Mr. Schubach stated Staff supported waiving the
requirements, but commented it would be_ necessary that the
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business be conditioned to be maintained as a snack shop.
Staff also recommended exterior site improvements.
~ .
Public Hearing·-opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:05 p.m.
Joe Iacopino, applicant, stated the conditions were
acceptable. He explained he and his family had owned a
similar business for many years. He stated he would
change the sign on the back of the building and paint the
rear of the building if it were necessary. He agreed to
sharing of the trash can with his adjacent neighbor. He
explained the Italian Ice was an old family recipe and
would be made on site.
Wesler Bush, Chamber of Commerce, discussed the problems
experienced by small businesses and stated the Chamber of
Commerce's support of this application.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 8:10 p.m.
MOTION b¥ Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE
application cup 92-8, as s~ated.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Di Monda
None
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been approved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
CUP 92-11 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO APPROVE THE
EXISTING DANCE AREA AND TO ALLOW LIVE ENTERTAINMENT TO
EXCEED DINNER MUSIC LEVEL AT 2701 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY,
THE BEACH BOYS CAFE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use
Permit amendment.
Mr. Schubach described the current building and previous
businesses at this location, as well as the building
remodeling and improvements which included painting,
resurfacing of the parking lot, ventilation improvements,
installation of a sound wall and valet parking being
currently offered. He discussed the issues for the
Commission"s consideration. While noting that noise
impact was .still a concern, Staff saw no wisdom in
allowing dancing with recorded music but not with live
music.
Mr. Schubach explained the conditions which were included
to address the issue of both potential noise generated_by
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both music and patrons. He discussed the impacts to
parking, noting the additional off-site parking would
appear to satisfy the added demand and recommended a
condition be included that provided off-site parking
during the evenings during live music performances,
complementary valet parking be provided and a copy of the
parking agreement be maintained in the Planning Dept. 's
files. Staff did not object to the requested change in
hours, but did have concerns regarding the allowance of
daily entertainment to 1:30 a.m. Mr. Schubach noted con-
ditions to require a "NO PARKING" sign and a gate to the
trash dumpster and addressed Staff's capability to conduct
noise measurement tests.
Comm. Marks discussed the enclosed location of the music
with Mr. Schubach.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:20 p.m.
Steve Jacobson, 2701 Pacific Coast Highway, corrected
Staff's report information regarding the additional
parking agreement, noting he had a month-to-month
agreement with the landlord of the parking area .. He
stated that the additional· parking was not a requirement
but that he had wished to be a good neighbor by offering
the additional parking and remodeling the building and
im1;>roved the air conditioning machinery to reduce the
noise level.
Mr. Jacobson explained that dancing with live entertain-
ment would be advantageous ·because it would attract an
older clientele. He stated that with a "D.J.", a younger
audience is attracted, resulting in louder music and
noise. He felt elimination of the "D.J." format and
im1;>lementation of live entertainment would reduce the
noise.
Mr. Jacobson stated he currently had parking for 47 cars,
and with the parking agreement, 200 additional spaces
would be available. He requested that valet parking not
be required each evening due to a lack of business on
Mondays and Tuesdays. Valet parking is provided from •
Wednesday through Sunday. Comm. Oakes expressed concern
regarding a short-term ~arking agreement and noted her
approval that valet parking provided that clientele exit
from the front door, therefore alleviating noise to the
neighbors to the back .of the site. Mr. Jacobson reiter-
ated that he currently met the on-site parking require-
ment and had had no complaints regarding the current live
music. He stated if anyone had a complaint, he wanted
them to come to him so that he could current any problems.
Ruth Sullivan, 2954 La Carlita Place, stated she could
hear voices from the parking lot. She discussed her
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confusion relating to Staff's report and discussed the
placement of the speakers within the restaurant with Mr.
Schubach. Mr •. '~ Schubach reiterated that Staff would be
conducting on-site acoustical analyses. She expressed the
wish that the doors and windows remain closed during the
hours of music, as stating within the C.U.P.
Chris Howell, 2966 La Carlita Place, felt that live music
negatively altered the character of a neighborhood and
requested that Staff monitor the establishment. . He
requested that noise in the early morning hours be reduced
or eliminated.
Gayle Duggan, area lessee, stated there was a huge
difference between this restaurant and the previous ones.
She noted the music was no problem, the clientele was
entirely different, valet parking was beneficial and
supported approval of the application.
Richard Sullivan, 2954 La Carlita Place, encouraged the
Commission to deny the application, noting an acoustic
survey was warranted and stated his opposition to allow-
ing this type of business within the area.
Don Haggerty, 1550· Prospect, suggested approval of the
C.U.P. with a 1:00 A.M. closure and if there were no
problems for a period of six months, changing the hours of
operation to closure at 1:30 A.M. He felt this business
was of benefit to the City. He stated the applicant
should not be penalized for ~he previous owners' actions.
Steve Jacobson stated he had had live entertainment and
had not received any complaints. He would respond to any
complaints received. He stated the Police Dept. felt he
had done an excellent job in eliminating the noise.· He
stated he can't completely control the general public but
continued to take action and remain "good neighbors". He
reiterated the issue was not whether he could have danc-
ing, but if dancing would be permitted with live enter-
tainment.
Patrick Howe, representing the applicant, stated Item·
15(c) contained rather threatening wording, and requested
it be amended to allow a 90 to 120 day grace period if the
parking agreement were terminated. This time ~eriod would
allow the applicant to obtain other parking, since parking
is such a problem within Hermosa Beach. He also stated
the current on-site parking provided matched that of the
previous business. Mr. Howe requested amendment of Item
11, in that it was not economically feasible, nor war-
ranted due to the down turn in volume, that a valet
service be utilized every day of the week.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn.
Merl closed the Public Hearing at 8:54 p.m.
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Comm. Suard and Mr. Schubach discussed Staff's capability
to monitor the noise levels ~nd the extent of the mo~itor-
ing that would~be conducted by Staff during the six-month
test period. Comm. Suard requested that Staff check to
assure that Mondays and Tuesdays are not overc rowded as
far as val et parking was concerned and asked if Item Nos.
7 and 20 should be coordinated in terms of after-closure
parking lot noise, to which Mr. Schubach agreed.
Chmn . Merl supported the six-month review period , agreed
that it was illo gical to allow dancing t o recorded mus ic
but not live entert ainment. Co mm. Oake s expressed her
concerns relating to t he-parking lot short term agreement
issue. Mr. Schubach suggested an alternative: if ·the
parking could not be provided at the adjacent property,
the app licant could re stripe his existing parking,
allowing for "stacking" with the valet 1;>arking as an
alternative. Chmn. Merl r equested that if parking is
disrupted, the applicant wou ld notify Staff, supplying a
proposal a ddress ing the problem , and a review by the
Commission could be conducted within 30 days.
Mr. Lee clarified that termination of live entertainment
woul d no t commence until 60 day s after t he termi n ation of
the par k ine:, agreement. Comm. Oakes requested that the
nois e within the park ing l ot also be addressed, s ince
residents had lodged c0mplaints, to which Chmn. Merl
agreed. Mr. Lee asked for clarification of Item 15 (A),
Page 8 , as to whether the _E>arking agreement would be
rec orded aga inst property o r if the current agreement was
acc eptable. The applicant was directed to obtain a
minimum of a six-month term parking agreement, with a
possibility o f a 3 0-day notice terminat ion and notif i-
cation to the City, allowi ng the applicant a 60-day period
in which to provide replac eme nt parking.
MOTION by Chmn. Merl, seconded b y Comm. Suard, to APP ROVE
Staff's recommendation relating to appl ication 9 2 ~11, wi th
the following amendments: ( 1) Item # 11 -valet parking
will be required Wednesdays through Sundays; every other
day t hat the parking lot is filled, valet service mu st be
provided , (2) Item #1 5(A) -the minimum parameters for the
parking arrangement is a six -month term of lease with a 30
day notice of termination by either party, wi t h the City
to be notified if the agreement is to be t erminated, (3)
Item # 15 ( C ) within 30 days of receiving notic e of
parking ag re ement termination, the Planning Commi ssion
shall review that action, and thi s item shall p r ovide a 60
day period to enable the applicant to provide substitute
addi tional parking if the parking agreement is terminated,
and (4 ) the addre ss of the park i ng lot shall be omitted to
allow the applic ant to o btain an agreement at another
location.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
~omm. Di Monda·
None
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been approved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
HEARINGS
NR 92-3 --AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 13-7(b) TO ADD GREATER
THAN 50% ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING SINGLE
FAMILY DWELLING AT 1015 4TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Mr. Schubach explained the east side yard is only 2.6 feet
wide at its narrowest point, instead of the required
minimum of 5 feet, resulting in the non-conformity; and
only one ~arking space is available, to be corrected with
the addition of a two-car garage. He described the pro-
~osed addition, open space, grade and planted area, stat-
ing Staff's only concern was the proposed added area was
designed to allow conversion into a second unit, including
its own access, its own stairway access to a bedroom and a
wet bar. The applicant expressed his willingness to place
a restriction on the property to limit it to one unit.
Mr. Schubach stated the existing non-conforming side yard
setback did not appear to be severe and the size of the
addit ion and resulting house size would be moderate in
scale. He stated the Commission must make a finding that
the goals, intent and purpose of Article 13 were being met
prior to approval. Staff recommended approval.
There were no questions of Staff, and at 9:13 p.m., Chmn.
Merl invited the applicant to speak.
Lance Widman, 1015 4th Street, bought the property in
1976, and, due to family expansion, now wishes to enlarge
his home. Since the purchase, he has continually upgraded
the structure. He stated the remodel would be an add on
to the rear with no demolition to the current structure,
noted the lot is "combined", is approximately 5,000 sq.
ft. with an 1, 10 0 sq. ft. livable space structure. He
discussed the non-conformities, noted the rest of the
property and . structure were conforming, the parking would
be brought into conformance and stated his proposed
addition exceeded the "50% of value" allowance. Mr.
Widman agreed to sign a dead restriction to assure· no
bootleg unit would exist. He stated the P.roposed deck
would be immediately accessible from the family room. H~
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corrected the Staff Report in that no wet bar is planned,
b:ut :z;:ather a designated "bar area". He stated the side
yard setback would be the only remaining non-conformity,
and the proposed addition was consistent with development
within the neighborhood. Mr. Widman introduced the
project architect, who did not speak.
Comm. Oakes and Mr. Widman discussed the width between Mr.
Widman• s property and his adjacent neighbor. Mr. Widman
stated the maximum building height would be 25 feet and
described the architectural treatment of the stairwa~ and
building exterior. Comm. Suard discussed the possibility
of Codes changes to allow a pitched roof on the proposed
addition. Mr. Widman had discussed this with Staff,
noting it was not possible and the plan had been designed
accordingly, to which Mr. Schubach explained further. The
Commission agreed the non-conformity was minor; efforts to
blend the structure had been looked into.
MOTION by Comm. Marks, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE
application NR 92-3 for exception to Section 13-7 (b) as
stated.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks,· Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None·
Comm. Di Monda
None
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been a~proved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
A break was taken from 9:32 p.m. to 9:40 p.m.
NR 92-4 --AN EXCEPTION TO SECTION 1162 TO ADD 250 SQUARE
FOOT ADDITION AND REMODEL TO AN EXISTING TWO-UNIT PROJECT
NON-CONFORMING TO PARKING, DENSITY AND SETBACKS AT 1616
MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant proposed to add a bath-·
room and walk-in closet, a 250 sq. ft. addition, and an
interior remodel of the unit along Bayview Drive. He
explained the property and structure non-conformities,
noting density, parking and setback non-conformities were
no severe or unusual for the area and would not intensify
the situation. Mr. Schubach noted addition parking space
was available to the south of unit B if the storage
structure was removed and recommended such a condition.
He stated the Commission must make a finding that the
goals, intent and purpose of Article 13 are met prior to
approval.
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There were no questions of Staff, and at 9:43 p.m., Chmn.
M~rl ,invited the applicant to speak. ~·
Tim Meenan, f66 Manhattan Avenue, co-owner, stated the
stairs would probably remain in place, rather than moving
an outside wall three inches to sup~ort the upstairs
bedroom. Comm. Marks and Mr. Meenan discussed access to
the current stairway and plan elevation. Mr. Meenan
described the lot size and existing structures, as well as
the non-conformities in the side yard. He stated the
proposed remodel conforms in every respect and stressed no
demolition would be conducted. He stated the 1938 build-
ing would be very expensive to remodel} it would be less
expensive to demolish and rebuild, but they could not do
that due to the building ordinance restrictions. Mr.
Meenan stated the property had been zoned R-3 when he and
his brother purchased it, but the zone had since changed.
There are three standard sized and one compact parking
spaces on site. He stated exterior efforts (stucco,
windows) would be made to ·enhance an architectural blend.
John Meenan, 166 Manhattan Avenue, Unit B, discussed with
Comm. Marks the intention to locate a deck on the west
side.
Chmn. Merl confirmed the only increase in living area
space would be the addition of a walk-in closet and
bathroom. Comm. Oakes confirmed the unit B would be
increased only 40 sq. ft., with a total remodel of the
interior. Chmn. Merl and Mr. Schubach discussed the
addition of a parking space in the side yard encroachment
area.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Oakes, to APPROVE
application NR 92-4 for exception to Sect~on 1162, as
stated.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comm. Marks, Oakes, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
Comm. Di Monda
None
Chmn. Merl stated this application had been approved;
subject to appeal within 10 days to the City Council.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Correspondence regarding the sign at Palm West Escrow.
Mr. Schubach distributed photo9raphs to the Commis-
sion. Gail Duggan discussed with the Commission its
inability to act upon this item. It was explained to
Ms. Duggan compliance to the variance application
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procedure was necessary. Wesler Bush, Chamber of
Commerce, stated his understanding that the Chamber of
Commerce would also be part of the planning process,
requesting notification to the Chamber prior to any
action being taken. Mr. Schubach detailed actions .
taken to date, stating the Chamber of Commerce would
receive notification in a timely manner.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Request for inclusion of a tattoo parlor in C-3 zone
permitted use list.
The Commission discussed with Messrs. Schubach and Lee
potential classifications in which tattoo ~arlors
could be included as a permitted use, initiation of a
new classification or notification to applicant that
he should restate his request with the City Council.
A majority of the Commission agreed to initiate the
consideration of an amendment to add "tattoo parlors"
as a permitted use or a conditionall¥ permitted use by
directing staff to prepare a Resolution of Intent, and
notify the applicant the fee is $340. No objections,
so ordered.
c. Update of the status report regarding fence at 1515
Hermosa Avenue.
Mr. Schubach stated he had been notified the fence has
been completely removed on the Hermosa Avenue and •
walk-street side, but a portion remains on the west
side, which is to be removed July 8, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
d. Planning Department activity report of May, 1992 ..
RECEIVE AND FILE
e. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for
July 14, 1992 City Council meeting.
RECEIVE AND FILE
f. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
g. City Council minutes of May 26, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS None
..:
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ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by the Cdfurnission to adjourn at
objections; so ordered.
•• CERTIFICATION
10:27 p.m~-No
·s
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true
and complete record of the action taken by the Planning
Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meet~ng __ of_. July_ 7, 1992. .✓,!/4,. ,J ~ /_lf--4 ~~ ??l;/1'//,W 0--
RGd Mer I, Chairman 1 ,, Mic , Secretary
✓Ay~ /?f/L
Date
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~INUTl:S 01'" TIit VUNNIN6 CO~ISSION ~l:1:TIN6 01'" TIit
CITY 01'" 111:l]~OSA 131:ACll 111:LI) ON .JUNI: 1E, 1~~~" AT
7:00 V-~-IN TIit CII'Y IIALL COUNCIL Cll~l31:DS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Suard and Chmn.
Merl
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Lynn Terry, Deputy City Engineer
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE the
following Consent Calendar items with the following changes:
Minutes of the May 19, 1992 Planning Commission meeting, Page 9,
last paragraph, change "This limitation ... " to "The 30-feet
limitation ... "
Minutes of the June 2, 1992 Planning Commission meeting, Page 2,
Variance 92-2, change " ... 2550 ... " to " ... 250 ... "
Resolution P.C. 92-27, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DETERMINING THE LEGAL USE TO
BE A FIVE-UNIT APARTMENT FOR PROPERTY KNOWN AS 1150 MANHATTAN
AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 92-30, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE GENERAL AUTO REPAIR AT 1017 AVIATION BOULEVARD,
KING-BEAR AUTO CENTER, change "C. The development as conditioned,
posses no threat .... " to "C. The development as conditioned, poses
no threat ... ", change "8. . .. fro ... " to "8. . .. for ... ", delete
the second " ... areas or any other location on the premises shall
be ... ", Section III, change each "it's" within this section to
"its".
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, *Suard and Chmn. Merl
None
*Comm. Suard abstained on June 2, 1992 Minutes,
Resolution P.C. 92-27 and Resolution P.C. 92-30
None
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
VAR 92-2 A VARIANCE TO ALLOW 250 SQUARE FEET ADDITION TO A
NON-CONFORMING TRIPLEX AT 336 THE STRAND AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SAID VARIANCE AT 336 THE
STRAND (continued from June 2, 1992 Meeting).
Recommended Action: To deny requested variance.
Mr. Schubach stated the proposed addition would maximize view
potential, raise that portion of building height to th'e 35-feet
maximum and connect with the existing roof deck. He commented the
non-conformity is related to density and structural aspects: lot
coverage, unit sizes, private open space, front setback, north side
setback and parking. Mr. Schubach stated the proposed project com-
plied with basic zoning requirements and the non-conforming ordin-
ance, noted the one space per unit parking complied with Section
1162 allowing the addition. A variance is necessary, because under
current R-3 zoning, the maximum density is 33 units per acre. He
stated the Commission must determine if there were grounds for a
variance and if the non-conforming use should be allowed any
expansion. Mr. Schubach then detailed the findings that must be
made in order to qualify for a variance and noted the applicant's
reasons for requesting a variance ( surrounding property rights,
structure sizes, view and light blockage).
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended denial due to the first
finding required for variances, not Staff found nothing about the
property's physical characteristics that were exceptional or
unique. He noted the second requirement would become moot without
the first finding.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:15 p.m.
Ken McDonald, project architect, 2306 Pacific Coast Highway,
pre~ented and discussed project photographs, addressing the
variance findings requirement as it relating to the property
topography and side-by-side in-filling. He felt a variance was
necessary for his client to enjoy the same rights as his neighbors
and felt granting the variance would not be detrimental to the
neighbors or area or adversel¥ affect the General Plan. He felt
the proposed project was within the "spirit" of the General Plan
and presented no increase in density beyond that which is 19% over
dense or lot coverage while increasing open space and living area.
He stated parking is not an issue, the area profile would be
maintained (not raised).
Comm. Marks discussed with Mr. McDonald the roof area, determining
the stora9e area had been deleted, the open deck would have an open
trellis with a clear he.:i.ght of 7'6" to 7'9". Comm. Marks noted the
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trash area was too small, to which Mr. McDonald responded that it
was an existing condition, but the property owner would be willing
to comply with any suggested improvement.
Eric Castleman, 336 The Strand, applicant, confirmed the location
of the trash area was pre-existing. He compared an analogy between
his property and senior citizens he cares for on a daily basis,
stating the project would realize the building's full potential and
extend its longevity, not alter the building character nor create
any new problems and not change density. He felt the building
could be enhanced and should not be torn down.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and Chrnn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 7:30 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda stated the architect had previously discussed this
proposed addition. He commented that the 30-feet height limitation
being currently considered, the substandard size of the lot and
apartments and the lack of parking had not been subjects of that
previous discussion. Comm. Di Monda stated his lack of support was
due to those three issues, feeling two units on the property would
better serve the City, given the lot size. Comm. Ketz felt there
were no findings made in support of a variance. Comm. Suard
supported remodeling of older units, but felt he could not support
a variance due to the view blockage and increase in density. Comm.
Marks stated his support of Staff's recommendation. Chmn. Merl
stated an affirmative finding was necessary to grant a variance,
which was not the case, although he was definitely in favor of the
remodeling of older structures.
MOTION by Comm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Marks, to follow Staff's
recommendation and DENY the request for a variance to allow 250
square feet addition and an Environmental Negative Declaration for
a non-conforming triplex at 336 The Strand.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
Chrnn. Merl stated this item was denied, subject to appeal within 10
days to the City Council.
CON 92-4/PDP 92-4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP #23286 AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH REVISED PLANS
FOR A THREE-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 1901 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
(Referred back to Planning Commission by City Council action to
deny "without prejudice"}.
Recommended Action: To review revisions and determine if adequate
to comply with concerns of the Planning Commission and City
Council.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff suggested the revisions be reviewed to
determine if adequate to comply with previously stated concerns.
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He then discussed the background, recommendations for changes and
the actual changes made to this item, as well as previous action
taken by the Commission and City Council. Mr. Schubach explained
the options available to the Commission. He stated the modifica-
tions made to the plan are minor and responded to only the City
Council's specific concerns. Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach
discussed view maintenance provisions. Mr. Schubach stated a
corner cut off requirement has been met by the revised plan, with a
drive way slope having a longer distance and lesser slope.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:39 p.m.
Gerald Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Ste. 300, project architect,
presented and explained photographs and renderings of the project.
He felt the height situation was reviewed and agreed upon by the
City Council that there was no problem. He presented an rendering
of area structure heights to the Commission, noted the proposed
project (due to building slope) would be 20-25 feet at the street
level with the back being 35 feet and stated most of the buildings
would not have an impact on view. Comm. Di Monda confirmed that
the project was at basically 30'5" and the slope then takes it to
31 '3" with Mr. Compton. Mr. Compton then explained the amount of
care that had been taken in the development of the building plans
and compared this proposed project to the existing ones within the
area and previous project plans. He felt this type of development
would provide a much safer traffic situation, noting the garage
area provided a 28-feet turn radius, allowing any size car to
maneuver and "head out" of the driveway.
Mr. Compton and Comm. Di Monda discussed internal down spouts and
overflows located within and without the structure. Comm. Di Monda
suggested the building mass could be visually reduced by different
stucco textures and color on the exterior of the building, which
Mr. Compton agreed to consider. Comm. Marks and Mr. Compton
discussed the planned landscaping, as well as the areas possibly to
be landscaped by the owners, and the building footprint determina-
tion.
Brian Bedall, 930 1st Street, Apt. #4, stated a lot of· work has
been completed to meet the stated requirements. He felt the
building will be attractive and the area will be improved.
No one else wished to speak regarding this i tern, and Chmn. Merl
closed the Public Hearing at 8:01 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda felt the changes are beneficial,
safer, an effort had been made and expressed his
changes made. He requested that a Condition
planter box be added, as it should have been.
the driveway is
pleasure with the
requiring a 24"
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE CON
92-4/PDP 92-4, Conditional Use Permit and Vesting Tentative Parcel
Map #23286 and Precise Development Plan with revised plans for a
three-unit condominium project at 1901 Pacific Coast Highway, with
a change to Paragraph 4 adding a Condition to require a 24" box
tree.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Suard, Chinn. Merl
None
None
None
Chmn. Merl stated this item was approved, subject to appeal within
10 days to the City Council.
CON 92-6/PDP 92-5 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP #21754. AND A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 1010 17TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To continue to July 21, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended continuance to allow the
applicant to revise plans to comply with the open space Policy
Statement and provide a revised landscape plan. He then detailed
previous actions taken by the Commission, described the proposed
units. Mr. Schubach stated the proposed project complied with all
zoning requirements, but is not consistent with the policy
requiring substantial open space adjacent to living areas.
Mr. Schubach discussed complaints received by the· Building
Department; ie: an on-site travel trailer, dumping of dirt on the
property. He stated the owner had been contacted and the issues
must be resolved prior to a building permit issuance.
Comm. Di Monda asked if Staff's word processor had "standard
conditions" entered. He stated the Resolutions do not always
include the same conditions. Mr. Schubach stated he would assure
the "24" planter box requirement" was included in future Resolu-
tions. Comm. Marks stated Sheet 7 was incomplete. Comm. Ketz
noted the previous C.U.P. had required a 36" planter box, not a 24"
one. The 36" planter box should be a requirement.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:07 p.m.
Jacob Mierop, 118 6th Street, requested a continuance to July 7,
1992, to which Mr. Schubach responded if the revised plans were
received by Staff by June 27, 1992, the July 7th date was possible.
Candace Ford, 1002 17th Street, referenced a letter she had written
which requested action be taken prior to a permit being granted.
They were: clean up the property, remove the dirt and reinstate
the natural ground level, fix the fence which was damaged by
trucks, removal of vermin, reimbursement for her expense in
removing subterranean termites on her facing property, addressing
the problem of the swimming pool and a large palm tree which serves
as a home for birds and vermin which has damaged adjacent property.
She stated four feet of dirt (in piles, but covering the lot) had
been brought in and dumped.
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Mike Welch, 1004 17th Street, confirmed Ms. Ford's statements. He
stated the dirt level is 4 to 6 feet over 2 / 3 's of the ·back yard
and the pool has water in it and represents a danger to children.
Bill Gray, 1115 17th Street, property owner of 1007, 1015 and 1017
17th Street properties. He stated 20 to 30 truck loads of dirt had
been brought in, the soil has not be compacted and there are no
retaining walls. He stated at least two stop-work orders have been
put on the property, which have been ineffective. Mr. Gray felt
that owners' rights should be reinstated equal to Condominiums by
rezoning the properties to allow present property owners to also be
able to rebuild or build Condominiums. He felt prior to granting
the C.U.P., a retaining wall should be built, house trailer
immediately removed and swimming pool filled. He requested that
condominiums be painted two different colors and that during
construction, the material and dumpsters not be allowed to be
parked on the street.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Merl at 8:25 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the dumping of dirt, the pool and the
trailer on the property with Mr. Mierop. Mr. Mierop stated the
pool did have water, had a fenc •:! around the pool, dirt had been
dumped on the property at his orders, but additional dirt had been
dumped by others in spite of the fence and lock that he had had
installed. He explained how the dirt is to be used to fill the
pool and stated the problems would be taken care of. The trailer
was being removed the next day. He stated the dirt was piled in
the back yard, but was not four feet high, had been there over one
year. Comm. Di Monda requested the dirt be removed immediately.
Comm. Marks requested the dirt be removed as soon as possible. Mr.
Mierop stated he had not received information from Staff and had
not been aware of the stated problems. Comm. Di Monda stated he
thought July 7, 1992 was too soon to allow for soil removal, the
pool being filled, soil compacted and to obtain a geology report.
Mr. Lee stated the problems that have been noted are within the
scope of the Building Department to resolve. If the matter were
continued, the problems could be addressed by the applicant and the
Building Department Staff could verify the actions taken. Then a
determination as to project merits could be addressed and the
C.U.P. could be approved, denied or continued.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Seward, to CONTINUE CON
92-6/PDP 92-5 to the Planning Commission's July 7, 1992 meeting,
REQUEST the Building Dept. to respond to the Commiss ion with a
report stating opinions, status and problems of thi s issue,
including the actions taken to remedy those problems and REQUEST
the applicant assure that the soil is removed, the pool filled and
the soil compacted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
None
None
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CUP 92-6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW OUTDOOR
SEATING IN CONJUNCTION WITH A COFFEE HOUSE r AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 157 PIER AVENUE, JAVA MAN.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval subject to Condi-
tions. He explained the Conditions and options available to the
Commission. Mr. Schubach then detailed the proposed changes to the
existing C.U.P., stating Staff felt the business should be required
to provide additional parking to compensate for expansion and
mitigate any impact, a low railing or other device be provided to
clearly delineate outside seating and stop encroachment into the
right-of-way and that private use of public right-of-way is not
appropriate as this is a major corner and has heavy pedestrian
usage. Mr. Schubach confirmed to Comm. Marks that lot nos. 15 and
22 were under the same ownership.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 8:40 p.m.
Dave Owen, 1233 Hermosa Ave., Ste. 203, project designer, 'felt that
the building has been vastly improved, stating the expansion was
very simple. He explained the expansion of a deck and additional
seating area. He stated the applicant is willing to give up use of
the public space and will not pursue use of that area. Mr. Owen
stated the deck was being proposed due to the substantial grade
change on the lot and the planter would perhaps have a different
Rick Hankus, 157 Pier Avenue, stated he has created a non-smoking,
non-drinking environment for primarily pedestrians which was of
immense benefit to the downtown area, improved the corner and gave
residents a place to go instead of driving to other cities. He
stated his business was a nice opening to the downtown Hermosa
Beach area. Comm. Suard congratulated him on the ambiance created
at that corner. Mr. Hankus stated he currently had nine part-time
employees, six of • which lived locally and three that parked at
least two blocks from the business. Comm. Suard and Mr. Hankus
discussed future parking spaces, one of which would be available
for $50. per month. Mr. Hankus stated he did not want to accept
the liability associated with use of public right-of-ways. Comm.
Di Monda suggested a bicycle rack be fitted near the building
rather than a parking space, which Mr. Hankus thought was a good
idea.
Tommy Steel, 726 Palm, felt Java Man offered outdoor seatin9 with a
nice environment, helping to turn the City into a walking city. He
supported approval of the C.U.P.
Lynn Terry, Deputy City Engineer, stated Public Works Dept.
completely agreed with Planning Dept. Staff's comments; ie: a low
barrier between tables and public right-of-way.
June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, asked the purpose of the 18"
public right-of-way. The Commission responded the right-of-way was
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four feet wide. She thought the area was only 18", which was
insignificant. She supported approval of the C.U.P., asking that a
condition be added prohibiting the use of paper plates or·cups.
Susan McFarland, 25 8th Street, recommended approval of the C.U.P.
She felt the business was very specific, catering to a walk-in
trade, which was not a tourist-related business which did not offer
alcohol. She felt the seven parking space requirement should be
removed prior to approval, as parking is available in other areas.
Ann Cummings, 930
exactly what was
support.
14th Street, felt this
needed in the downtown
type of business
area and stated
was
her
Dick Mccurdy, 1113 Valley Drive, supported C.U.P. approval, noting
the impact on other local businesses has been for the better.
Rick Linnen, 1727 Monterey, supported approval, stating this type
of business was needed within the City of Hermosa Beach.
Dave Owen, during rebuttal, asked for Staff's assistance with
establishment of an acceptable low railing or other device.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Merl at 9:04 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda did not view the request as an expansion, but rather
providing outside seating. He felt no parking spaces were neces-
sary, but again suggested a bike rack be installed and a barrier or
low railing be not a part of the conditions. Comms. Ketz and Suard
agreed a railing was not necessary. Comm. Suard expressed concern
regarding parking, suggesting a total of two parking spaces be
required. Chmn. Merl concurred with Comms. Di Monda and Ketz. He
felt the business helped the community and was important to the
downtown area. He stated he would have no problem in approving use
of the right-of-way area and allowing the applicant, at a later
time, the ability to pursue that option with the City Council and
the Public Works Dept.
Comm. Marks felt a bicycle rack should be a requirement. Comm. Di
Monda felt the applicant should be able to serve coffee at the
outside tables and clean them thereafter, suggesting that
restriction be lifted, to which Chmn. Merl agreed. After
discussion between Mr. Lee and the Commission, it was determined
conditions could not be changed without notice, service could not
be given to the outside tables while not allowing the same service
at indoor tables; cleaning of the tables is allowed. Asked by
Comm. Di Monda, the applicant stated he would like to have table
service, as it would help the customer flow and service quality.
Comm. Di Monda asked if this issue could be continued· to allow
re-noticing and the use of three tables in the outdoor area could
be continued during that time. The applicant agreed to this
proposal.
Mr. Lee stated instruction as to Condition changes would be
appropriate at the continued Public Hearing, noting that direction
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was currently needed in order to define for Staff the scope of
re-noticing.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Ketz to CONTINUE this
item to allow for renotification, DIRECT Staff to revise Section I,
Page 6, deleting the third sentence starting with, " ... the boundary
between ... " , deleting paragraph 2 , change paragraph 4 to read, "A
sign shall be posted in a conspicuous location," and delete Page 7,
paragraph 7.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Chmn. Merl
Comm. Suard
None
None
Comm. Suard noted his disapproval was regarding only the parking
situation. Ch.mn. Merl confirmed outside service of tables would
continue during this period of continuance.
A break was taken from 9:18 p.m. to 9:25 p.m.
CUP 91-18 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW AUTO
DETAILING IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CAR WASH, PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW EMPLOYEE PARKING ON ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1000 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY,
HERMOSA CAR WASH (continued from 2/4, 3/17, 4/21 and 5/19/92
meetings).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit
amendment and adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating the City Traffic
Engineer did not support allowing a right turn out of the driveway.
Staff believed closure of the 10th Street driveway was a preferable
alternative, with "left-turn only" and "exit only" signs as an
alternative. Noise readings had been obtained but were difficult
to read due to the high levels of noise caused by traffic. Supple-
mental information indicated a violation of the noise ordinance. A
compressor and a high-pressure water hose are being used, contri-
buting to the noise levels. This violation requires corrective
action be taken. Staff recommended the applicant contact Staff to
assist in the resolution of this problem. The applicant must
assure the noise level is reduced to acceptable levels.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 9:29 p.m.
Peter Paldino, project architect, 215 Pier Avenue, addressed the
noise level and drive way issues. He state the noise readings were
taken with the blower off, with a 58 to 61 Ob's reading as a result
of highway noise, and with the blower on, with a 63 to 69 Db's
reading, both over the maximum allowable. He questioned the 55
Db' s requirement, feeling it was a low standard. Mr. Paldino
described the efforts made by the applicant, stating he felt the
block wall would be expensive to build and not particularly
effective. Mr. Schubach explained the basis of the "55 Ob's
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standard", noting the applicant had to reduce the noise level to
the ambient {58-61 Ob's), but the noise levels must be reduced to
Code required levels. Comm. Di Monda stated the ambient noise
level would be dependent upon the time of day the tests were taken.
He discussed the current enclosure and noise level reduction with
Mr. Paldino, who stated there remained one more internal mechanism
can be addressed to reduce sound which would be addressed within 30
days. Mr. Schubach stated another reading could be taken after
completion of that correction, if the Commission so desired.
Mr. Paldino requested the drive way remain open as the drive way is
used only for exiting of detailed cars, with a maximum of 6 to 7
cars per day. He stated if the drive way were closed, the detail-
ing portion of the business will also be closed.
Richard O'Bryan, 1000 Pacific Coast Highway, stated the equipment
is below ground level and is enclosed, with awnings hung to prevent
noise from escaping. He stated the noise levels have been reduced
by 5 to 7 Ob's. He stated the Police Dept. had "passed" the noise
level as being within the ambient sound level and that additional
muffling had been accomplished since that time. Mr. Schubach
stated Staff had not used the 1990 Police reports, which stated the
applicant was in violation, because it was felt they did not take
the ambient at a location that Staff was satisfied with. Comm. Di
Monda discussed use of a remote vacuum to reduce noise with Mr.
O'Bryan. Comm. Marks suggested the two open ends be enclosed with
"strip" plastic, to which the applicant expressed concern relating
to possible damage to the cars.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the number of complaints received by Staff
with Mr. Schubach. Although not a large outcry, neighbors up the
street stated they heard more of the noise than those adjacent to
the establishment because the nois1e traveled upwards.
Mr. Lee stated that City Code provided that when commercial uses
are adjacent to residential uses, the Dba noise level could be 60
Ob's between 8:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. and at 55 Ob's after 10:00
p.m. This should be considered in relationship to the ambient.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Merl at 9:50 p.m.
Comm. Marks felt another opportunity to lessen the noise level
should be given to the applicant. Comm. Di Monda felt a
continuance was inappropriate, feeling the Commission should give
suggestions for correction, approve the C.U.P. and review the
situation in six months' time. He then itemized the· areas of
concern which would be reviewed during the six month review. He
suggested a noise level reading be conducted at 5:30 p.m. as he did
not feel he knew what the ambient noise levels really were and felt
Staff should provide additional ambient noise level information.
He also felt the actions taken to date were of benefit to the
community and the applicant had made an honest effort to resolve
the issues.
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Comm. Suard stated the applicant would be required to adhere to the
Code requirements. He felt a reading of the ambient noise level on
a Sunday morning was just as important as a 5:00 p.m. reading,
noting residents should have their "quiet time".
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE
C.U.P. 91-18, deleting Paragraph 3, Sentence (b) and allowing the
drive way to remain open, with a chain and a left-turn only sign,
Page 5, Paragraph 11 to be changed to allow the operation of vacuum
cleaners as long as the City noise ordinance requirements are met,
Page 5, Paragraph 13, delete item (a) and replace with a statement
requiring a six-month review and to DIRECT Staff to obtain more Oba
information relating to the noise levels at this location at
5 : 0 0-5 : 3 0 p. m. week days and on Sunday mornings, in order to
resolve this problem.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Suard, Chinn. Merl
Comm. Marks
None
None
Chmn. Merl stated this item was approved, subject to appeal within
10 days to the City Council.
PDP 91-5/CUP 91-26 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR A HOTEL WITH A PIANO BAR CON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL)
AND A RESTAURANT WITH ON-SALE BEER AND WINE, AND ADOPTION OF A
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 125 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, KING
HARBOR HOTEL {continued from 2/18, 4/7 and 5/5/92 meetings).
Recommended Action: To continue to a specific date.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant still needed to provide
additional information which had been delayed, in part, by an
illness in the developer's family, necessitating his being out of
the country. He stated addition or relocation of a traffic signal
has been opposed by the Traffic Engineer and would probably be
opposed by Cal Trans, which has approved the proposed plan and
submitted traffic study as adequate. Mr. Schubach discussed the
responses received from a survey regarding a street closure, of
which the majority supported ( 36/20). He noted the City Traffic
Engineer and CalTrans had indicated no opposition to the street
closure, but a public hearing and general agreement by residents
and businesses, as well as a General Plan Amendment would be
necessary.
Mr. Schubach noted records of incidence f rem other adult
restaurants is highly variable; similar restaurants have had few
incidents. Staff had attempted to float balloons to measure height
but the test was affected by turbulence. Staff did find little
difference between 35 and 40 feet, in that the view would be
obstructed with either height or expansion of an existing building
on First Street to the west of this location. Mr. Schubach stated
Staff did not believe a wall higher than 6 feet is necessary; the
applicant would be advised if the Commission felt a higher wall was
needed. Staff also did not believe the hotel would create any
11 P.C.Minutes 6/16/92
changes in pedestrian circulation within the
cross-walks currently existing. The property
notified of the necessity to clean the site and
would be taken care of by the end of June, 1992.
area, with area
owner has been
has indicated it
Mr. Lee noted a concern that under the permit streamlining act, a
set period of time is established in which to approve/deny a
project, explaining the amount of time as it related to this
project. He explained the difficulties relating to this project,
stating the maximum date in which to approve/deny this project
would be mid-August 1992 (unless the applicant asked for another
time extension). •
Comm. Di Monda asked what constituted "general agreement" among
residents. Mr. Lee responded residents would have the opportunity
to protest either vacation or closure, and the City Council has the
right to make the decision. Comm. Di Monda felt this statement in
the Staff Report was misleading, to which Mr. Lee offered to
further research and present the particulars to the Commission.
Comm. Di Monda noted the notice was advertised as "recommended for
continuance". Chmn. Merl felt the project had been continued many
times and now should be addressed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 10:10 p.m.
Jeremy Yeh, 49 So. Catalina Avenue, Pasadena, applicant's
representative, explained the delay was due to the applicant's
father's d~ath, which necessitated the applicant leaving the
Country prior to leaving instructions. Mr. Yeh requested an
extension of time until probably July 1992 in order to discuss .the
Commission's concerns with the property owner, who is scheduled to
return at that time. He felt the property could be best served by
the placement of a hotel on it, rather than a shopping center or
other purposes.
Phil Wagner, 601 5th Street, stated his surprise that a project of
this magnitude was being considered so close to his property. He
felt other residents were not aware of the proposed project. He
then discussed the type of clientele a hotel would generate, the
projected increase in traffic which he felt would have a negative
impact and explained traffic would have to pass in front of his
property if the hotel is built. He requested that heavy trucks be
prohibited if construction of the hotel is approved. Mr. Schubach
stated a copy of the survey would be given to Mr. Wagner.
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, stated a
November 1991, which set the height limit at
the requirements of a "grandfather clause"
should be the height limit on this building.
been granted to this project during a public
building is "wide open".
"vote" had been taken
35 feet. He discussed
and stated he felt 35
No special rights had
meeting. He noted the
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Merl at 10:21 p.m.
12 P.C.Minutes 6/16/92
The Commission discussed with Mr. Lee the 35-feet height limit,
which did not apply to this particular project due to the City's
continued direction given to the developer, and the project should
be "grandfathered". Comm. Di Monda discussed his concern regarding
the continuances, noting that the "streamlining act" is not being
violated if the applicant requested another continuance, which Mr.
Lee confirmed.
MOTION by Comm. Ketz, seconded by Comm.-Di Monda, to CONTINUE PDP
91-5/CUP 91-26 to the Planning Commission August 4, 1992 meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Merl
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Chmn. Merl suggested Staff convey to the applicant the Gommission
probably will not allow further continuances. Comm. Suard noted
the applicant was waiting for determinations from the Commission
relating to trash enclosure placement and wall height. Mr. Lee
stated the applicant had committed to clean up the site. The
Commission wished to monitor clean-up progress and completion.
HEARINGS
CON 90-8 A REQUEST FOR ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22100 FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 626 7TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To grant six month extension.
Mr. Schubach referenced difficulty in construction due to the
economy. He discussed previous action taken by the Commission,
described the project and property location, stating the proposed
project was in the R-2 zone and is consistent with the open space
'policy statement. Staff recommended approval of the requested
six-month extension. Mr. Schubach stated State law would limit the
amount of further extensions. He wished the applicant to under-
stand this limitation on any future extensions.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm.
Staff's recommendation and APPROVE a six-month
90-8.
Suard, to
extension
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Suard, Chinn. Merl
Co.mm. Marks
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
accept
of CON
CON 90-20 A REQUEST FOR ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22409 FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 619 10TH STREET.
13 P.C.Minutes 6/16/92
Recommended Action: To grant six month extension.
Mr. Schubach referenced difficulty in construction due to the
economy. He discussed previous action taken by the Commission,
described the project and property location, stating the proposed
project was in the R-2 zone and is inconsistent with the open space
policy statement as this open space is on the loft level decks.
Mr. Schubach commented the Commission must decide between granting
the extension based on approved plans or requiring modifications
regarding the open space. Staff recommended approval of the
requested six-month extension as this was the first request for an
extension.
MOTION by Comm. Ketz, seconded by Chmn. Merl, to accept Staff's
recommendation and APPROVE a six-month extension of CON 90-20.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Suard, Chinn. Merl
Comm. Marks
None
None
PS 92-1 POLICY STATEMENT TO DETERMINE THE LAND USE CATEGORY
FOR A DO-IT-YOURSELF BREWERY.
Recommended Action: To classify the proposed do-it-yourself
brewery as "hobby supply" and initiate a text amendment to add
"do-it-your-self brewery" as a permitted use.
Mr. Schubach reiterated Staff's recommendation and noted the
Commission's alternatives. The State Alcoholic Beverage Control
has ruled this business would not require a license. The Federal
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms stated the business would
.not be regulated, but the beer produced must be for personal use
only. He stated the applicant requested the Commission declare
business to be a hobby supply business, which was within the
purview of the Commission, subject to City Council's confirmation.
He then explained the determinations to be made by the Commission.
Mr. Schubach stated no detailed floor or parking plans had been
submitted. He noted the differences between this proposed business
and other hobby stores, stated Staff had reservations in stating
brewing of beer was a hobby and noted the brewing processes and
equipment which could result in emissions and odors being released.
Staff supports and encourages businesses an enhancements of
downtown business activity, but is not convinced this classifi-
cation would be prudent. The recommended definition and policy
statement would be an interim measure, permitting the proposed
business to operate prior to final adoption of a text amendment.
He stated a cautious approach would be consideration of sponsoring
an amendment adding this business to the permitted use list with a
C.U.P. requirement, which would require the application to submit
an application. He referenced a letter from the City Manager in
support of this proposed business.
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Comm. Di Monda discussed draft Policy Statement, I. (e) with Mr.
Schubach, stating I. (a) , (b) , ( c) and ( d) should be deleted, as
these paragraphs are covered by I.(e). Mr. Schubach stated removal
of those paragraphs would delete any City-level enforcements and
control. Mr. Lee stated the Stated and Federal regulations could
be adopted by reference as the local regulations, of which para-
graph I. ( e) doesn't necessarily apply. After discussion between
Messrs. Lee and Schubach and Comm. Di Monda regarding the issue of
enforcement, Chmn. Merl suggested "adoption by reference''. Comm.
Di Monda suggested the parking requirement be deleted since a major
parking lot was located within 50 feet. Messrs. Schubach and Lee
suggested a parking code be maintained for this business. Comm.
Ketz stated an individual site was not being reviewed, but rather a
category, to which the Commission agreed. Comm. Suard discussed
his concerns regarding regulation of emissions, to which Mr. Lee
responded with information regarding A.Q.M.D. authority and
enforcement. Comm. Di Monda felt the parking requirements would be
redundant, stating he had a problem listing what is already within
the zoning ordinance and referenced general retail and hobby shop
current parking requirements.
Chmn. Merl invited the applicant to speak.
Patricia Spiritus, 115 Longfellow, said she hoped to have judged
competitions, but would not have a tasting room. She confirmed the
brewing area will have a maximum of 10 kettles of approximately 10
gallons each. The "yeasty" odors will be contained via a hood
filtration system. She stated appointments will be made for the
two-hour process.
Comm. Di Monda felt that the Commission should not be analyzing all
businesses and creating bureaucratic paperwork, but should be
looking at the businesses to determine which could be put into
existing permitted uses. He felt this business qualified as a
"hobby" shop. He stated that if Staff was confused regarding what
a potential business would be listed as, it should be brought to
the attention of the Commission, but saw no need to list what is
adopted by reference (which should be sufficient). He felt the
parking requirement would be met by the parking lot across the
street from the proposed business.
Comm. Ketz asked what the City's recourse would be if odor became a
problem. Mr. Lee responded a complaint could be filed with the
A.Q.M.D., who has specific regulations and personnel for investi-
gation. Mr. Lee agreed to present State Regulations which gave
authority to the A.Q.M.D. to regulate odors. Comms. Marks and Di
Monda discussed the parking issue. Mr. Lee reiterated the Commis-
sion's determination during this meeting was only whether or not
the do-it-yourself brewery should be classified as a hobby supply/
retain use, with parking being addressed by the applicant at a
later date when he/she asked for a variance or presented a parking
plan. Mr. Lee referenced "Requirements subsection F", which is not
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specifically called out in the State and Federal regulations. He
stated it might be advisable for local purposes to have this as a
requirement and recommended additional verbiage, "Do-it-yourself
breweries shall be considered the same as hobby shop", subject to
the same requirements.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to FIND that a
"do-it-yourself brewery" is a "hobby shop", allowing the _applicant
to continue the requirement permit process and Staff can bring back
a Text Amendment of their concerns at their convenience.
AYES:
NOES:
Conuns. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Suard, Chinn. Merl
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
P-10 VEHICLE PARKING ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG BEACH DRIVE
{continued) from May 19., 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To review Staff's report to City Council and
confirm Planning Commission recommendation.
Comm. Di Monda fe lt the Commission might wish to give alternatives
in its recommendation to the City Council. The Commission agreed
this item should be continued. Mr. Schubach commented the Council
could require this item prior to further review by the Commission.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Ketz, that due to the
lateness of the hour, this item be CONTINUED to Planning
Commission's July 21, 1992 meeting. No objections, so ordered.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Tentative Future Planning Commission Agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Correspondence from MultiVision regarding cablecasting Planning
Commission meetings.
The Commission jointly expressed its incredibility over the
letter content. Mr. Schubach stated the implementation had
been postponed for a short period to allow City Council review.
He stated he would present the Commission's comments and the
Commission members could attend the Council meeting. He stated
that MultiVision had stated essentially that Manhattan Beach
City Council comes first, with this Commission second. The
Commission discussed the possibility of changing the meetings
to Wednesday evenings, reaching no decision. Comm. Suard felt
Hermosa Beach is currently scheduled and Manhattan Beach should
reschedule their requested time, unless the reason for change
was a valid one.
RECEIVE AND FILE
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ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Ketz, to adjourn at
11:18 p.m. Ho objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of June 16, 1992.
Rod Merl; Ch
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE
CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON JUNE 2. 1992. AT
7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Merl.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Chmn. Merl
Comm. Suard
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
F. Paul Corneal, Building Inspector
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
Comm. Di Monda pulled the May 19, 1992 Minutes, requesting Page 7,
Paragraph 7, the conversation between himself and Mr. Terry be
almost verbatim. Comm. Di Monda stated Mr. Terry had written a
report in the Planning Commission's name which did not reflect the
vote the Commission had made, and he wanted this fact clearly
displayed in the minutes.
MOTION by Comm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Di Monda to APPROVE
Resolution P.C. 92-10 and P.C. 92-29.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Chmn. Merl
None
None
Comm. Suard
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Ketz to APPROVE Minutes
of April 21, 1992.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Chmn. Merl
None
None
Comm. Suard
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to addressed the Planning Commission regarding
item not shown on the meeting agenda.
an
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6/2/92 ~
PUBLIC HEARING
L-5 LEGAL DETERMINATION HEARING TO DETERMINE THE LEGALITY OF
ANY EXISTING SIX-UNIT APARTMENT LOCATED AT 1150 MANHATTAN AVENUE
(continued from April 21, 1992 meeting.).
Recommended Action: To determine said property to be legal for
five-unit apartment.
Mr. Paul Corneal, Building Inspector, gave the Staff Report,
stating the Building and Planning Department had not received any
additional rebuttal information during the continuance period. He
stated that department's opinion was the site was legal for a
five-unit apartment building.
Comm. Marks understood the property was legal for four units, to
which Mr. Corneal responded by describing the on-site buildings and
the five-unit legal status.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:07 p.m.
Ron Christianson, 2513 Harriman Lane, Redondo Beach, proper~y
manager, stated the property was purchased by the previous owner in
1965, with the current owner inheriting it in 1991, and title
information was impossible to obtain. He questioned the accuracy
of the real estate listing and referenced a July 1941 remodel
permit. He stated the unit could have been legal due to the change
in requirements over the years, no one was aware of what had been
done or told to the listing real estate agent. He felt that not
enough information was available to allow a legal determination at
this time. Comm. Marks stated the tax records would reflect the
property listing, to which Mr. Christianson stated it was shown as
a rumpus room, but that the unit had existed for over 30 years and
was now being questioned as a legal residence. Comm. Di Monda
stated an entire unit existed and questioned the purchase of that
property wi t h a real estate agent's disclosure of an illegal unit,
to which Mr. Christianson stated the owner who had purchased the
property 30 years ago was deceased and no pertinent facts are
available.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Merl at 7:15 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to DETERMINE the
property located at 1150 Manhattan Avenue to be legal for a five-
unit apartment building.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Chmn. Merl
None
None
Comm. Suard
VAR 92-2 A VARIANCE TO ALLOW 250 SQUARE FEET ADDITION TO A
NON-CONFORMING TRIPLEX AT 336 THE STRAND AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SAID VARIANCE AT 336 THE
STRAND.
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Recommended Action: To deny requested variance.
Mr. Schubach described the current buildings, the history of
construction of those buildings, discussed the proposed addition,
noted the non-conforming use with only one parking space per unit
and noted the Staff Environmental Review Committee's belief that
there were no grounds for a variance. Mr. Schubach then described
the proposed addition and explained the non-conformities. He com-
mented the addition of a deck would provide additional open space,
the granting of the variance would not adversely effect the General
Plan or be materially detrimental or injurious and the parking was
sufficient for the Planning Commission to allow the 250 square feet
addition, but the variance was necessary due to the non-conforming
use. He stated the two issues for consideration were: ( 1) were
there grounds for a variance and (2) if a non-conforming use should
be allowed any expansion at all. He then explained the request
determinants and stated the applicant felt he would be gaining
rights the surrounding property owners currently have which impact
upon his property. Mr. Schubach noted the property currently has
the best access to ocean views ,and construction might result in
view obstruction of other properties.
Mr. Schubach stated denial is recommended to the the first finding
required for variances, in that Staff finds nothing exceptional or
unique about the property physical characteristics. The current
ordinance requires one unit on the property, which would restore
the applicant's rights he stated he is being denied. He noted the
number of existing area nonconformities and parking problems,
recommending denial of this application.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Merl at 7:22 p.m.
Ken McDonald, project architect, requested this item be continued
since only four Commission Members were present.
No one else wished to speak regarding this item, and at 7:24 pm,
after UNANIMOUS APPROVAL (4-0) by the Commission, Chmn. Merl
CONTINUED the public hearing to June 16, 1992.
CUP 92/9 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO REPAIR AT 1017
AVIATION, A.K.A. 1205 BONNIE BRAE, KING-BEAR AUTO CENTER.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit.
~r. Schubach stated a C.U.P. is currently required with a temporary
operation agreement having been granted with the understanding that
,continued operation was pending the Commission's action. • He noted
the current business is located in a building that was used for
auto repair by the previous tenant and had adequate parking
facilities. Mr. Schubach noted the complaints received regarding
compressor noise emition, explained the applicant was willing to
provide soundproofing and a timer to eliminate compressor cycling
during business hours. He discussed Staff's concern regarding the
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lack of trash enclosure, an existing chain link/barbed wire fence
and the recommendation for new landscaping and hours of operations
of 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and 9:00 a.m. to
5:00 p.m. Saturdays.
Public Hearing opened by Chrnn. Merl at 7:26 p.m.
Bernard Robins, applicant, explained due to the lack of trash, he
wished to provide a small enclosure with four trash cans. At the
time of pick-up, the trash would be "bagged" and placed at the
curb. This would keep the large trash truck from entering the
property and preserve one parking space.
Mr. Robins noted the compressor had been on the property for 17
years, it used to be used for raising lifts but currently was only
being used for handheld tools and did not understand why complaints
were currently being received. The 5-hp, 80 gal. compressor is in
a separate metal building which will be soundproofed. He stated
the compressor could not be moved inside the building due to lack
of room or on the roof as a new steel structure would be required
to support the weight. Mr. Robins agreed to remove the barbed wire
but requested that the cyclone fence remain. He explained that an
additional wall was behind the fence and landscaping could not be
planted at the fence location. Landscaping was only at the front
of the building.
H. Finnenberg, property owner, purchased the property in 1973 and
had received a complaint regarding the compressor. He was told by
the City that he had only to make sure it did not start during the
night, which he did. He stated his wish to cooperate with the
complaining neighbor.
Mariano Alvarez, 1212 Ocean Drive, stated his bedroom is located
next to the compressor. He works nights and is continually
awakened by the compressor. He suggested the c9mpressor be
relocated.
Steve Slimmons, 1220 Ocean Drive, stated he was concerned about the
parking, in that the employees park on the street. He requested
that business parking be limited on Bonny Brae and redistributed to
other area streets. He stated that although he also hears the
compressor, that was not his primary concern.
Charles Ernst, interested party, stated soundproofing could be
place within the compressor room to satisfy Mr. Alvarez'. sleeping
problem. He felt the noise problem had been over exaggerated and
explained how the compressor worked and how often it "came on". He
,acknowledged it made noise when it was on, but stated it did not
turn on very often. He stated time and effort had put expended to
upgrade the facility and objected to the removal of the fence. He
requested that the hours of operation be changed on Saturdays to be
8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Comm. Marks suggested the compressor not be
turned on until 12:00 p.m., to which Mr. Ernst objected as it would
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not allow work to be accomplished prior to that time, expanding his
statements by explaining how a compressor worked. He reiterated a
sound retardant would be supplied in the compressor building and a
container would be built to assure trash would not be visible.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Ernst continued to discuss noise levels and
relocation of the compressor, with Mr. Ernst requesting that a
noise level reading be taken in order to establish the necessary
for relocation of the compressor.
Joan Richmond, no address given, challenged the right of the
Commission to force closure of businesses on Sundays. Mr. Lee
responded the imposed condition related to proper time, place and
manner, not prohibitions having to do with any religious require-
ments or functions.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Merl at 8:04 p.m.
Mr. Schubach explained an oversight had been made which was noted
in the Staff Report but not in the Resolution. The Standard
Conditions should include landscaping requirements as to the type
of materials to be placed in the on-site planter box and the
rear-building setback area plantings. He noted the barbed wire and
chainlink fence is not allowed by the Zoning Code. He requested
the addition of:
Condition 4. Landscaping shall be provided in the front, rear,
and existing planter box. Type of material shall be approved
by the Planning Director, and landscaping maintained.
by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Ketz, to APPROVE
recommendations with the requested change of Saturday
hours to 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and addition of Condition
MOTION
Staff's
business
No.4.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comins. Di Monda, Ketz, Marks, Chmn. Merl
None
None
ComIR. Suard
a. REQUEST FOR INTERPRETATION REGARDING AN YOUTH CENTER AS A
PROPOSED USE AT 329 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Mr. Schubach explained Staff was seeking direction relating to this
;item. He explained the proposed business, noting the Code did not
, provide a category that "fit" this usage. He noted Code categories
1 that were close, but not exact. He asked if the use should be
added, defined and a Text Amendment initiated or if definition
should fall within the current categories. Comm. Marks discussed '
possible parking requirements with Mr. Schubach. Comm.
Di Monda suggested these activities might be located at the Com-
munity Center, noting the Community Center was available to provide
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this type of proposed activity, to which Comm. Ketz agreed.
Chmn. Merl invited Mr. Neiswonger to speak regarding this item.
Christopher Neiswonger, 13708 Cordarry, Hawthorne, stated the basic
business nature was a "coffee house" to which the Community Center
would not suffice, as this business will be open most days and
evenings, will cater to the late-teens, is not necessarily
religious in nature, will do counseling referrals, provide a place
to "hang out" other than the beach, will not serve drinks, but will
provide a form of entertainment (not staged events). He felt the
referral service · was necessary as a moral obligation. While not
being a major part of the business, nor sponsored by any youth
organization, it would offer a less hostile environment for the
younger people. Mr. Neiswonger stated he had never identified
himself with any youth organization, but rather a place for "kids"
to hang out prior to curfew and a place for adults after curfew.
Mr. Schubach noted caution is necessary regarding the allowance of
entertaining because it could be out of control.
Mr. Neiswonger responded to Mr. Lee's question by stating he
expected to be a "for profit" business, but that would be based
upon receipt of donations, only. Chmn. Merl noted to solicit
money, an organization must be established, to which Mr. Lee agreed
that a permitting process in terms of solicitation was required.
Mr. Neiswonger explained the property owner was willing to rent the
property to him at under market value, but declined to give names
and addresses of people that would support his efforts in this
endeavor, as he hadn't written them down. He discussed his reasons
for choosing Hermosa Beach as a site with Comm. Marks. Chmn. Merl
established that entertainment, per se, required a permit. Mr.
Schubach noted that Mr. Lee had suggested the business be
considered a "coffee shop". Comm. Ketz stated this operation
sounded similar to other coffee shops and shouldn't necessarily be
treated any differently. Comm. Di Monda stated the proposed
business was changing as Mr. Neiswonger was speaking and suggested
Mr. Neiswonger r econsider the nature of the business for represen-
tation to the Commission.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Ketz, to RECEIVE and
FILE. No objections, so ordered.
Comm. Di Monda suggested Mr. Neiswonger return to the Planning
Director at a later date with a definition of business which would
be more clear. Chmn. Merl's recommended that Mr. Neiswonger also
check the very strict and precise County requirements relating to
• donations and funding, which was outside the jurisdiction of the
,Commission.
b. STATUS REPORT REGARDING FENCE AT 151 HERMOSA AVENUE.
Staff was requested to continue follow up and initiate a
memorandum to the Commission every two weeks, assuring the
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Deputy City Manager is still in the process of writing the
property owner.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
c. PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF APRIL, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
d. TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Chmn. Merl noted another item, as well as the issue regarding
336 The Strand, had been added to the proposed June 16, 1992
agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
e. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF MAY 12 AND MAY 14, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda requested the Planning Commission send a letter of
complaint to the City Manager regarding the De puty City En~ineer,
Mr. Terry, regarding the Beach Drive Parking r eport , in which Mr.
Terry admitted to putting information into the report which was his
opinion and not the Commission's opinion. Comm. Di Monda felt this
action was highly improper. Comm. Marks agreed with this requested
action. Comm. Ketz expressed her concern because the action had
taken place a year ago and Mr. Terry did not include the minutes
for review by the Commission. Mr. Schubach noted that a different
action had previously been taken to which Mr. Terry did not refer.
Mr. Schubach stated Mr. Terry had not been aware of that action,
and further, it was the final recommendation which Mr. Terry was
discussing. •
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to DIRECT Staff
to send a letter of complaint to the City Manager. No objection,
so ordered.
Comm. Di Monda stated the Beach Drive Report still has not been
written.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Ketz, to DIRECT Staff
to send a letter of complaint to the City Ma nager asking him to
inform the Deputy Engineer that a high priority ·has been
established for this item, that the Deputy Engineer should work on
items sent to him by Council and Commissions prior to working on
self-sugges ted items, not the other way around. No objection, so
ordered. •
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Mr. Schubach commented it was his understanding that Mr. Terry haa
been awaiting the approved minutes from the previous Commission
meeting in order to obtain the information necessary to provide to
the City Council. However, it was indicated previously that
submittal to the Commission prior to the Council was requested. If
this could not be done, a memorandum to the Commission should have
been forthcoming; which was not done. Chmn. Merl stated that
historically, it has been problematic to get information or action
on the subject matter. The Commission wished to be expeditious in
dealing with this matter.
Comm. Di Monda discussed the possibility of meeting with the
Coastal Commission regarding the green belt issue. After
discussion, the Commission decided that Comm. Di Monda should
represent himself and not the Commission at such a meeting.
Comm. Marks discussed RUDAT, referenced the May 21, 1992, at the
Lighthouse. Comm. Ketz, who had attended the meeting, discussed
the actions of that meeting. She then referenced the City Council
liaison and discussed the L.A.T.C. Subregional Incentive Program
with Mr. Schubach.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmn. Merl, to adjourn at
8:30 P.M. No objections, so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a . true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of June 2, 1992.
Rod Merl, Chairman
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON MAY 19, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Merl.
'
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms~ Di Monµa, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn.
Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to (1) CONTINUE
the April 21, 1992 Minutes to allow expansion of paragraph 2, Page
9, and APPROVE the following Consent Calendar items :
Minutes of the May 5, 1992 Planning Commission meeting
Resolution P.C. 92-23, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #23258, AND A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN
FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 628 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Resolution P.C. 92-26, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING.A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE (SPECIFIC TO
SLOT CAR RACING) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INCIDENTAL SALE OF SLOT
CARS AND RELATED ITEMS, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 950 AVIATION BOULEVARD (SUITES A &B).
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, and Suard
None
Chmn. Ketz
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
CUP 91-18 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT . AMENDMENT TO ALLOW AUTO
DETAILING IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CAR WASH, PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW EMPLOYEE PARKING ON ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1000 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY,
HERMOSA CAR WASH (continued from February 4, March 17, and April
21, 1992 1992 Meetings).
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Recommended Action: To continue to June 16, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated the Police Department, due to its involvement
in riot containment, had not had the time to assist Staff with the
requested noise metering. Staff recommended continuance to allow
the Police Departm~nt the time necessary.
Public ~earing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:03 p.m.
No one wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Ketz closed
the Public Hearing at 7:03 p.m.
MOTION b¥ Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to CONTINUE this
item until the Planni ng Commission's June 16, 1992 meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 92-5 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#20876 FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM SUBDIVISION AT 612 TENTH STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
Tentative Parcel Map.
Comm. Di Monda absented himself from this item because he was
noticed due to being within the 300 feet area.
Mr. Schubach stated the already-constructed building had received
an approved C.U.P. in 1989, but had not obtained a Certificate of
Occupancr, nor the final map. He described the project, noting
substantial compliance with Zoning standards. Mr. Schubach
furnished the landscape plan to the Commission for perusal. Comm.
Marks felt that a three story building with one exit was an unsafe
structure.
No one wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Ketz closed
the Public Hearing at 7:06 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE CON 92-5,
Conditional Use Permit and Tentative Parcel Map #20876 for a
two-unit condominium subdivision at 612 Tenth Street.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Marks
Comm. Di Monda
None
Chmn. Ketz stated this item was approved, subject to appeal within
10 days to the City Council.
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CUP 92-2 · CONDITIONAL .USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW LIVE
ENTERTAINMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF A
NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 807 21ST STREET, 2ND STREET RESTAURANT
(continued from March 3 and April 7, 1992 meetings).
Recommended Action:-To approve said Conditional Use Permit
amendment and adopt the Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schuba~h stated this item had been continued to allow.a parking
agreement to be obtained and limits on noise levels and hours of
entertainment to be reviewed. He stated a parking agreement had
been obtained which is satisfactory. Staff recommended { 1) the
hours of entertainment be limited to 10:00 p.m. daily, (2) the
musicians be limited to only acoustic instruments, with indirect
amplification and (3) a six-month review.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:13 p.m.
Richard Limbasuta, 807 21st Street, stated he agreed with all the
conditions except the limited hours of operation. He stated
customers do not start arriving until after 7:00 and requested the
hours of entertainment be increased allow music until 11:00 p.m. on
Friday and Saturday nights.
Art Mackey, musician, stated only one small speaker would be used;
the noise level has been not been a problem in the past. He stated
dinner music is being played; it's very subdued. Comm. Marks noted
that the music was being limited due to resident complains of
noise. He suggested an application be submitted after six months,
when the residents are satisfied with the level of no i se. Comm. Di
Monda discussed methods of amplification ( specifically through a
microphone) with Mr. Mackey. •
Paul Amarelus, 123 33rd Street, spoke in support, stating he
enjoyed soft jazz music during dinner. He noted the bass beat is
very low and expressed his surprise that complaints r~garding noise
were received.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:20 p.m.
Comm. Suard did not see a difference between amplification through
a microphone or direct amplifier. He felt amplification of the
bass should be allowed since noise limitations were already
established, extend the hours of entertainment to 11: 00 p.m. on
Fridays and Saturdays. Comms. Merl, Di Monda and Chmn. Ketz
agreed. In respond to Comm. Di Monda' s inquiry, Mr. Schubach
discussed Staff's intent relating to Condition No. 16. Mr.
Schubach noted a six month review with two specific changes to be
considered at that time, as well as any other problems which might
occur. Comm. Di Monda discussed tracking to determine the
effectivity and/or success of mitigation measures, requesting this
item be returned to the Commission in six-months. Comm. Di Monda
referenced page 6, No. 13, discussing with Mr. Schubach the
inclusion of conditions relating to Public Works, Fire Department,
etc. requirements. Comms. Merl and Di Monda felt redundant
conditions should be eliminated; many of which were established
through State and City •
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f "• , r .' l
codes .•• Mr~: Lee . explained .why redundancies were present within the
C.U.P.s amd the issue was discussed among the Commission and Staff.
Mr. Lee suggested ··a provision in all C.U.P.s be added stating,
"There shall be compliance with all applicable provisions of the
Municipal Code", to which the Commission agreed.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to APPROVE CUP
92-2 to allow live entertainment in conjunction with a restaurant,
and adoption of a . Negative Declaration at 807 21st Street, 2nd
Street Restaurant, subject to conditions to include: (l) removal · of
Condition No. 13 and replacement by the statement, "There shall be
compliance with all applicable provisions of the Municipal Code",
(2) Condition No. 9 be revised with the hours of entertainment to
be from 7:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. on Fridays and Saturdays, and from
7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.rn. on Sundays through Thursdays, (3) Section
II, Paragraphs 7(d) and 13 be deleted, and (4) to include language
within Paragraph 16 to assure this item will definitely return to
the Commission for review in six months.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comma. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated this item was approved, subject to appeal within
10 days to the City Council.
HEARINGS
CON 90-7 A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22156 FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM
AT 829 15TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To grant a six-month extension.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval of extension of the
C.U.P. to November 15, 1992 and the Parcel Map to June 15, 1993.
He detailed the project-approval history, described the structures
and explained the difficulties experienced by the applicant in
obtaining financing. The term "lis pend ens" was explained by Mr.
Lee for the Commission's information, noting it appeared to have
been filed in error and would be removed, clearing title and
allowing the applicant to possibly obtain his requested loan.
Responding to Comm. Marks inquiry, Mr. Schubach stated this project
had not been "grandfathered", and without the extension being
granted, the applicant would have to reapply.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:42 p.rn.
Raymond Levert, 12741 Bellflower Blvd, Downey, explained that at
the time he pulled the print, he discovered the lien against the
previous property owner. He explained the actions taken to remove
the lien and to obtain a construction loan. Mr. Levert discussed
the hardships that will be experienced if the extension is not
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approved. He stated he did not submit the original plans and the
original plan check expired. He bought the property December 1,
1991 and resubmitted the plans during April 1992. The lis pendens
had been recorded December 10, 1991. Mr. Lee explained the process
of· f -iling a II lis pendens 11
• Comm. Di Monda requested that support
documentation be supplied to the Commission if this request is
again presented in six. months. Additionally, as a general rule,
documentation covering similar requests should be supplied. to ::the
Commission.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:49 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE a six-
month extension of CON 90-7 C.U.P. and Vesting Tentative Parcel Map
#22156 for a two-unit condominium at 829 15th Street.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
P-10
Cornms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
VEHICLE PARKING ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG BEACH DRIVE.
Recommended Action: To reaffirm the conditions approved by the
Planning Commission at the July 2, 1991 meeting.
Mr. Lynn Terry, Deputy City Engineer, gave the Staff Report, noted
this item had previously been heard by the Commission on April 16,
1991. He itemized the progress of this item through the Commission
and City Council, noting the Council's decision to concentrate on
Beach Drive, alone. He itemized the conditions p·reviously approved
and requested reaffirmation by the Commission; then he itemized the
conditions previously approved. Using a display map, Mr. Terry
discussed the affected lots and discussed current parking of
vehicles upon those lots.
Comm. Di Monda noted an actual count of the amount of cars parking
on those lots had not been obtained. Mr. Terry stated the average
number of cars on both sides of Beach Drive counted during July,
August and September of 1991 was between 60 and 70, not 200 as
initially stated (which was based upon a compaction of properties).
Comm. Merl and Mr. Terry discussed the timing for project
completion and the approval of necessary encroachment permits.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Terry discussed the number of corner lots on
the west side of Beach Drive.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:00 p.m.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., represented a client at 542 6th
Street. He suggested the City vacate the land which would result
in putting the land back on the tax rolls, obtain tax revenue and
the City would not need to obtain insurance for that land. He
stated the City could impose building and parking restrictions. He
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discussed tp.e possibility that encroachment permits would not: be
obtained and the current insurance liability. Mr. Compton felt the
entire City should be reviewed as to land vacation, resulting ·in
additional revenue for the City. He stated of the 32 east side
corner lots, 15 are being utilized ·and of the 32 on The Strand, 29
are being utilized. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Compton discussed the
approval history of Mr. Compton's client's project and compared the
parking pattern and situations within Hermosa Beach and Manhattan
Beach. Comm. Marks and Mr. Compton discussed the impact upon the
property owners if the land were vacated.
Susan McFarland, 25 8th Street, distributed three photographs for
the Commission's review after determining they had not previously
received copies. She stated she had been concerned and involved in
the walk street situation since 1978, noting the situation has
escalated to include illegal curb cuts, walls removed and illegal
vehicle entry and parking on the front portion of the walk streets.
She requested a "strong review" of this situation be immediately
conducted and that enforcement of vehicle violations be immediate.
Chris Waggerman, 19 8th Street, stated the parking problems are
continuing to increase, with landscaping being removed to enable
more parking. She had been involved in this issue since 1978 and
supported Staff's recommendation. She requested that "no parking"
at all corners be implemented and enforcement be immediate. She
asked that laws not remain in the "books" if they are not going to
be enforced.
Jim Listener, 2715 Eloesty, stated the nicest lots in town were
those on the walk streets east of Beach Drive and west of Hermosa
Avenue. He commented he did not understand why parking lots would
be put in front of the views. He felt the City Council had sent
the message that parking lots in front of natural settings were not
wanted and supported Staff's recommendation.
Chuck Sheldon, 800 The Strand, discussed the lengt~'of testimony
regarding this item and noted the substantial differences in
parking ordinances and topography between Hermosa Beach and
Manhattan Beach. He felt it was erroneous to compare the two
cities. He discussed the complex issues associated with land
vacation by the City and felt the Planning Commission did not have
sufficient data to currently make a decision. He stated he and
other residents were concerned about the City's position regarding
the issue of vacation and assumed land title. He noted the 65
years of use by the property owners and protested the removal of
the owner's parking rights. He stated he submitted plans to the
Building Department in 1985 which showed no guest parking except at
the rear of the lot, which were approved. He discussed parking
with Comm. Marks, stating he had not and does not consider parking
on the rear of the lot illegal.
Comm. Marks and Mr. Terry discussed the choice to not enforce
parking requirements in that area until the City Council took its
final action. Mr. Terry noted that prior to that decision parking
requirements were enforced. -
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Paul Shank, 1838 The Strand, said his property is a corner lot with
parking on the east side and landscaping on the west. He felt the
previous extensive review and analysis had been a superb compro-
mise. Be felt residents were entitled to parking because when the
properties were purchased, parking was allowed. He sympathized
with the situation on 8th Street, but felt that a "witch hunt"
should not begin because of one situation.
Jean English, 30 13th, stated her parents have owned the property
at 2240 Strand since 1956. She presented a photograph of cars
parked at that address in 1940. She explained that two lots were
together with a garage on only one. If the parking allowance was
removed, her parent would have no parking on her lot. She stated
the garages cannot be entered from Beach Drive. She was against
"vacation".
Pat Corwin, 31 8th Street, stated he had reviewed the City's plans
prior to the purchase of his property. He discussed the rental of
properties and the associated abuse. He suggested the City's
overall plan be reviewed to assure methods in which to beautify the
City and increase safety.
Jim Rosenberger, Bay View Drive, asked that Paul Shank speak in his
stead.
Chuck Shank, 800 Strand, expressed concern for safety on the lots
on Beach Drive and corner lots, noted the importance of the port-
able barriers, and protested allowing public parking within the
residential area. Comm. Di Monda stated that at the current time,
anyone may park on a corner lot on the west side of Beach Drive
without being ticketed by the City. Mr. Shank stated he and his
neighbors had purchased the properties at a higher premium with the
understanding that the parking was available to them. H~ felt the
suggested compromise was very fair.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:50 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Di Monda agreed the Commission had previously
left the decision as to an encroachment permit or vacation up to
the Council's determination as to the best interests of the City,
which Mr. Terry confirmed as true. Mr. Terry stated that particu-
lar agenda item of the report he wrote, the indication had been to
go one way or the other, not specifying as to which. Based upon
further Staff analysis, Staff recommended the encroachment permits
be the preferred method. Chmn. Ketz then commented that the
statement at the top of the page of Mr. Terry's report was not true
and were not conditions the Commission had approved at that meet-
ing, which Mr. Terry confirmed. Mr. Terry stated the Commission
had approved the encroachment permit or the vacation; therefore,
Staff recommended the encroachment permit be the correct method.
Comm. Di Monda asked why the Commission received a Staff Report in
which it stated the Planning Commission had said something when Mr.
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Terry knew the
Staff Report's
• the conditions,
stated he was
respond.
Commission had not said it. He objected to the
statement that the Commission had approved all of
as this was known not to be a true statement. He
astounded by this, to which Mr. Terry did not
Comm. Di Monda then addressed "vacation", (a) explaining the tax
benefit to the City would be minimal and the City would maintain
more control and the ability to protect the land by keeping
ownership and having restrictions, (b) the City Attorney bad stated
the City does own the property and (c) the idea is to keep the land
open. He stated Staff Report Item 6 was to specifically exclude
boats, motor homes, campers and trailers, which is missing, adding
a stipulation that all work in the public right of way will be
reviewed by the Planning Commission. He stated commercial property
has not been specifically addressed. No. 9 should include the walk
streets and clarification that the designated area is the east side
of Beach Drive to and including Hermosa Avenue.
Comm. Di Monda proposed that commercial properties should be pulled
as a separate study, 23rd Street should be an exception and any
other areas within the City that have structures front ing on public
right-of-ways should be reviewed. Although Mr. Terry disagreed,
Comm. Di Monda maintained that the subject area consisted of the
east side of Beach Drive up to and including Hermosa Avenue. Mr.
Lee responded that the noticing had been applicable to the public
right-of-way along Beach Drive, which could be reasonably extended
to Hermosa Avenue. He stated that clarification to include Hermosa
Avenue would not represent a problem.
Comm. Suard and Mr. Lee discussed the City's possible liability,
the encroachment process and its control of the use of the public
right-of -ways, as well as adequate conditions applied in terms of
insurance, structures, safety, etc. Mr. Lee stated it was unclear
at this time as to actual ownership of subject land title, but
noted that the general rule is prescriptive rights will not apply
to public-owned property. If the property owner did ~ot choose to
maintain the public right-of-way, the City had that responsibility.
Comm. Suard asked .why encroachment had been chosen over vacation,
to which Mr. Terry responded that if the City vacated the property,
it would lose control as far as future possibilities, which should
remain open. Comm. Suard and Mr. Lee discussed property evaluation
conducted by the County Tax Collector's Office, which would not
allow the land to be vacated to the property owners with a fee
bein~ charged based upon land value. Mr. Lee suggested the
Commission consider the administration of encroachment permits,
allowing use of public right-of-ways versus the continuing need for
public purpose for the walk streets and make its decision based
upon those considerations.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to APPROVE the
following vehicle parking on public right-of-way conditions and
proposed separate studies.
1. Allow the open space of the walk streets to be used .by the
Strand corner lots for private use.
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3. Establish that 1/3 of the public right o~ way is to be
landscaped.
4. Require that a permanent barrier is to be installed between the
landscaping and the parking.
5. Require that direct access shall be only from Beach Drive.
6. Establish that parking is for automobile use only; boats, motor
homes, campers and trailers are prohibited.
7. Require fence height within the public right of way to be
limited to 36" maximum height.
9. Establish that no parking is to be allowed on the east side of
Beach Drive to and including Hermosa Avenue at the walk street
right-of-ways.
10. All work within City right-of-ways and applications for
encroachment permits will be reviewed by the Planning Commis-
sion prior to work start up.
11. The existing properties west of Beach Drive that currently sub-
stantially confirms to the standards established by the
Commission and administered by Staff will be allowed to apply
for encroachment permits and continue to use the property in
the manner it is currently being used. Additional encroachment
permits will not be issued in order to prohibit additional
parking in the public right-of-way.
12. The commercial properties along The Strand will be pulled and a
separate study conducted.
13. The properties that have been built fronting a walk street and
having the walk street as the only access to the garages will
be pulled and a separate study conducted.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Corruns. Di Monda, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
Corrun. Marks
None
None
Chmn. Ketz then brought forth for discussion Item No. 2, establish-
ment of a maximum distance allowed for parking from Beach Drive and
Item No. 8, establishment of allowable private use through a
revocable encroachment permit.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
establishment of a maximum distance of 30' from Beach Drive shall
be allowed for parking, with a two-vehicle parking maximum. The
30-feet limitation does not apply to the maximum distance of
properties which meet the qualifications under Condition 11.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Corruns. Di Monda, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
Corrun. Marks and Merl
None
None
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Chmn. Ketz felt the vacation issue was extremely complicated and
recommended the Commission move forward on the encroachment permit,
to which the Commission agreed.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm.
establishment that a private use is to
revocable encroachment permit.
Suard, to APPROVE the
be allowed through a
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The Commission DIRECTED that the revised Vehicle Parking on Public
Right-of-Way along Beach Drive recommendation be returned to the
Commission for review at its June 2, 1992 meeting.
A break was taken from 9:42 p.m. to 9:50 p.m.
SS 92-4 SPECIAL STUDY TO CONSIDER RELOCATING THE SIGN ORDINANCE
BACK TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND TO EXAMINE OTHER POSSIBLE AMEND-
MENTS TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE DEEMED NECESSARY BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
Recommended Action: To direct Staff as deemed appropriate.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had presented the existing ordinance to
the Commission for its review and decision as to parameters. Upon
receiving input from the Commission, Staff will then focus its
study on the areas and issues of greatest concern.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:51 p.m.
No one wished to speak regarding this item, and Chmn. Ketz closed
the Public Hearing at 9:51 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz felt placement into the Zoning Ordinance would g i ve
bette r control, to which Comm. Merl agreed. He suggested a review
of neighboring cities' ordinances. Comm. Di Monda agreed, stating
the business people of Hermosa Beach should not have any more
burdens placed upon them than those in neighboring cities. He
noted the sign ordinance fees and fines were the responsibility of
the City Council, which would make a determination that it felt was
fair, to which the Commission agreed. Mr. Schubach suggested Staff
create a matrix {comparison chart) going across the board, to
include what is done or not done by Hermosa Beach and similar
cities. Comm. Di Monda requested the sign ordinance be given to
the Commission, as well as that of another city that is located a
distance away (i.e. Santa Barbara, etc.) for review prior to the
June 2, 1992 meeting. Mr. Schubach agreed to obtain the requested
information for the Commission.
Comm. Suard stated the new sign regulations should be clear, not
redundant and consolidated for easy understanding by the local
business and any other affected people. Comm. Di Monda.criticized
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the definitions in general, stating all definitions should be
brought to the "front", including the sign ordinance. Comm. Suard
stated he would furnish additional written comments to Staff, in
order to save time during this meeting.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Election of the new Chairman and Vice Chairman.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Merl, to CONDUCT AN
ELECTION to fill the positions of Chairman and Vice-Chairman.
No objections, so ordered.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, to ELECT Comm.
Merl as Chairman, Planning Commission, 1992-1993.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CoJDJns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn.
Ketz
None
None
None
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to ELECT Comm.
Di Monda as Vice-Chairman, Planning Commission, 1992-1993.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CoJDJns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn.
Ketz
None
None
None
b. Correspondence from Building Department regarding 125 Pacific
Coast Highway.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. Memorandum regarding Planning CoJDJnission liaison for May 26,
1992 City Council meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated a change the manner of handling is
needed, noting that the City Council is not made aware of the
liaison presence, the liaison is not on the agenda, an
information packet is not forwarded prior to the meeting, and
yet the liaison is expected to speak during the meeting with no
information on hand. The Staff Report should state the liaison
intention to attend and an information packet furnished to that
person for review. The Commission agreed with these state-
ments. Mr. Schubach stated the liaison is to be a member of
the majority who voted on the particular issue. Mr. Schubach
stated the packet(s) would be sent to a liaison prior to the
meeting.
Mr. Lee explained that prior to the City Council meeting, the
Council Members would review the Planning Commission's minutes
11 P.C.Minutes 5/19/92
and would be aware as to the discussion and decisions made by
the Commission relating to the particular items.
RECEIVE AND FILE
d. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE
e. City Council minutes of April 28, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
a. Request by Commission Di Monda regarding the fences at 26th
Street & Hermosa Avenue and 16th Street & Hermosa Avenue.
Comm. Di Monda noted the Staff Report addressed this issue. A
bamboo fence had been erected without approval, although it is
very attractive. A six-feet high wall that was previously
noted had been approved. Mr. Schubach explained the complaint
procedure, noting the complaint had been forwarded to the
Building Department for handling. He will update the
Commission as information is obtained.
Comm. Marks suggested that forms be completed by the public prior
to speaking on any issue to the Commission. The form should
include name, address, subject, who they are representing (if
anyone) and whether he/she is an opponent or proponent. Chmn. Ketz
felt this was a very good idea and noted other cities currently
follow this practice. Mr. Schubach stated that the practice had
been previously implemented and that it did not work well because
people did not wish to complete the forms.
Comm. Marks also suggested a "phone-in" capability for the viewing
audience. The Commission felt too many problems could result as
far as caller verification, etc.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to adjourn at
10:13 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of May 19, 1992.
Christine Ketz, Chairman
>\c~ I G 1. l °' ,~, 1-
Da.tle
12 P.C.Minutes 5/19/92
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON MAY 5, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Vice-Chmn. Marks.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Vice-Chmn. Marks
Chmn. Ketz
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl to CONTINUE appro-
val of the April 21, 1992 minutes to allow for the following revis-
ions:
Page 8 -Further detail is to be included relating to the
conversation held between Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Rosenberger.
Page 8 -Further detail is to be included relating to the
conversation held between Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Compton.
Page 13, third paragraph -Change to read, " ... just stated
such height limit would be ... "
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
Comm. Merl
Chmn. Ketz
Resolution P.C. 92-25, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTIONS 13-7(b) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN
ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF
REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 1042 TENTH STREET.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Marks to APPROVE
Resolution P.C. 92-25.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
Comm. Merl
Chmn. Ketz
ITEM(S) FOR CONSIDERATION:
Resolution P.C. 92-28, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, OF INTENT TO STUDY DRIVEWAY
SLOPES.
1 P.C.Minutes 5/5/92
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard to ACCEPT
Resolution P.C. 92-28.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
Comm. Merl
Chmn. Ketz
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to addressed the Planning Commission regarding an
item not shown on the meeting agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
CUP 92-5/PARK 92-2 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW SLOT CAR RACING IN CONJUNCTION WITH A HOBBY STORE, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 950 AVIATION
BOULEVARD, SUITES A & B, THE RACER'S EDGE (continued from April 21,
1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit and
adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, noting the Commission's
previously stated concerns have been discussed with the Police
Department and the City Attorney's office.
Mr. Lee addressed Conditions Nos. 11 and 14, regarding the
imposition of additional security and entry prohibition to people
wearing "gang colors". Mr. Lee stated the imposition of additional
security is a valid condition, provided evidence supported that the
type of use could possibly generate a potential problem. He stated
the applicant would then be on notice as to the type of problem
that could be generated and type of condition imposed for mitiga-
tion. He expressed his opinion that the Planning Commission could
delegate to the Police Chief administration of that fundamental
policy decision, which is the determination that it is a potential
problem that could or should be mitigated. An appeal procedure in
the event the Police Chief's decision is contested should be
established, noting that currently the Municipal Code does not
contain the Police Chief's ability to review and make this type of
determination. Mr. Lee stated it was within the Commission's
discretion to review and decide if this should be initially
determined by the Police Chief, subject to appeal, or if the
Commission should review and make the determination, subject to
appeal to the City Council.
-Vice-Chmn. Marks felt the Commission should review the subject
problems, while Comm. Suard felt the Police Chief should handle the
problems. Comm. Di Monda agreed with Vice-Chmn. Marks, but noted
Condition No. 11 should be rewritten for clarity; the business
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owner should have a right to an automatic hearing without ch~rge,
the Police Chief can have emergency power if a problem arises.
Comm. Merl questioned the findings; description of the issue that
would generate the condition, which Mr. Lee stated it should be
documented either in the Staff Report by input from the Police
Department or public testimony or Commission testimony.
Mr. Lee then discussed Condition No. 14, stating this type of
condition posed Consti~utional issues and the City Attorney's
office recommended deletion of this condition, as police enforce-
ment was a better route to take.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:20 p.m.
Denny Scanlan, 831 6th Street, applicant,
only a positive attitude since opening
with the conditions currently proposed.
were from the local area.
stated he has experienced
his business. He agreed
He stated his customers
June Williams, Manhattan Avenue, protested giving the Police Chief
the authority to order a security person if a problem became appar-
ent and the requirement to notify the Planning Commission and wait
for a hearing. Comm. Di Monda stated Ms. Williams had taken the
information totally out of context, noted the Police Chief current-
ly has emergency powers to act. He explained the clause
gave the right to request a doorman on a permanent basis, which
would impact the subject business. He felt that prior to
implementing that type of condition, other conditions to mitigate
that action should be considered. He explained the Commission was
seeking to implement a clearly-written condition defining the roles
and responsibilities.
Mr. Lee clarified that the standard for determination as to whether
to impose security personnel was embodied within the condition.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:27 p.m.
Vice-Chmn. Marks felt Condition No. 11 should be amended to allow
the Police Chief to make a decision, with the Planning Commission
conducting a hearing to obtain understanding of circumstances.
Comm. Suard felt the issue was becoming too complex. Comms. Merl
and Di Monda agreed the current wording allowed the Police Chief to
act as the situation necessitated, with action by the Commission as
required by events. Mr. Lee suggested clarification that the
Police Chief would make the initial finding, weight the initial
evidence and make a recommendation to the Planning Commission.
Comm. Merl added the Commission's reasons would be from concern
that the location could be a potential gathering place for problems
and should be monitored.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to APPROVE CUP
92-5/PARK 92-2 as written, with the designation of responsibility
to the Police Chief to be noted in Condition No. 11 as "The Police
Chief may determine ... ".
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Com1ns. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
CON 92-3/PDP 92-3 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP #23258, AND A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 628 MONTEREY BOULEVARD (continued from April 7, 1992
meeting).
Recommended Action: To approve plans to be provided as
supplemental item on Monday, May 4, 1992.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval, stating the
applicant had submitted revised plans with the base point height
measurement was from the street level along Monterey Drive and the
driveway grade was reduced to 15%. He reiterated the Commission's
concerns regarding the 35-foot height, potential view blockage and
small open space provision. He stated the open space generally met
the Policy Statement requirements. Mr. Schubach noted the
possibility of view blockage to the east of the property, the
existence of neighboring 35-high structures. He noted the plans
were submitted late, resulting in distribution to the Commission
late also, not allowing enough time for complete reyiew. He
suggested a continuance to allow the Commission time to review the
submitted plans, site and neighboring properties.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn Marks at 7:36 p.m.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., Suite 300, project architect,
distributed photographs and displayed an artist's rendering of the
project. He presented a height survey of the area, compared the
structure heights and noted that more than 50% of the lots on the
block had been built to a 35 feet height and that the subject block
was the one most built up than the surrounding ones. He discussed
view blockage projections, using a chart for illustration. Mr.
Compton then discussed the ramp modification to the 15% slope
requested by the Commission. He noted that he had tested the view
from a car on a 25% ramp, which he felt was not problem, and stated
a 15% ramp should mitigate the Commission's concerns. He disputed
Staff's analysis that the headers had been reduced to minimum code
requirements, explaining the heights of the particular rooms and
the provision of coffers and heading out of areas to give an
additional sense of height. Vice-Chmn. Marks felt the view of an
exiting vehicle would be obstructed, to which Mr. Compton
disagreed. He explained the tests he had conducted to assure the
safety in exiting on the proposed ramp.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Compton discussed the ceiling heights in the
mezzanine area of the rear unit (which was 7 '1" to the bottom of
the beams with a 9 1/2" additional height between the beams), Unit
A kitchen (7'4"), downstairs bedroom (7'9" with either coffers or
beams to be added to give the illusion of additional height), Unit
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A living room (12'), dining room (16'), master bedroom (8'1"), Unit
B master bedroom ( 9' 1"), downstairs bedroom ( 8 '1"), dining room
( 16'), kitchen ( 7 '10") and the mezzanine ( 7 '4" of which an open
beam ceiling can be added to the plan).
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 7:51 p.m.
Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Schubach Staff's ability to verify
the view blockage analysis submitted by Mr. Compton, expressing his
concerns regarding the potential view blockage of adjacent
neighbors. Comm. Di Monda stated his only problem was having
received the drawings late, which did not allow adequate time to
review them, nor did he have the original drawings for comparison.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Vice-Chmn. Marks, to CONTINUE
CON 92-3 to the Commission meeting of May 19, 1992, to allow Staff
to conduct an analysis in terms of the view blockage and perform
verification of the section drawing.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Suard and Vice-Chmn. Marks
Comms. Di Monda and Merl
None
Chmn. Ketz
The Motion failed due to a lack of majority.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE CON
92-3 with the conditions recommended by Staff and with verification
as to the accuracy of the section drawing.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda and Merl
Comms. Suard and Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
Chmn. Ketz
The Motion failed due to a lack of majority.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE CON 92-3
with the conditions recommended by Staff and with verification by
Staff as to the accuracy of the section drawing and the accuracy of
the view blockage as submitted by Mr. Compton.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Vice-Cbmn. Marks
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
PDP 91-5/CUP 91-26 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR A HOTEL WITH A PIANO BAR (ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL)
AND A RESTAURANT WITH ON-SALE BEER AND WINE, AND ADOPTION OF A
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 125 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, KING
HARBOR HOTEL {continued from February 18 and April 7, 1992
meetings).
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Recommended Action: To approve said Precise Development Plan and
Conditional Use Permit, and adoption of a Mitigated Negative
Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval of the 70-room
hotel, restaurant with on-sale alcohol and piano bar. He stated
the grandfather clause which allows a 40-feet height will soon
terminate and an eight-foot high west side wall would require
noticing since the . original plans displayed a six-feet wall. Mr.
Schubach described the proposed hotel, parking spaces and
accommodations, including structure position, square footage and
height measurements as noted in the revised plans.
Mr. Schubach stated this project is subject to the Precise
Development Plan requirements. He stated a determination has not
been received by Staff as to whether the project had been
"grandfathered" or not, but the City Attorney would discuss this
subject. Staff recommended tandem parking stalls be identified
for employee parking. Mr. Schubach observed that the revised plans
were reviewed for consistency with the guidelines, noting the
project was designed to scale, the pool area was relocated, a
sauna/work out room is still located on the westerly side of the
property which Staff suggested should be relocated by the pool, the
project extends to 35 feet only at the P.C.H. frontage, ranging
from 32 to 40 feet elsewhere. He discussed the efforts to decrease
the appearance of bulk, landscaping plans and buffering of noise by
both walls and plants. Cal Trans' requirements and comments have
been incorporated in the plans with the exception of wheelchair
ramps, which is a condition of approval. He also discussed
CalTrans' response to the City's traffic engineer's inquiries.
Mr. Schubach stated the plans do not include all the details to
enable a final approval of Precise Development Plan, the Resolution
of approval includes conditions requiring submittal of required
details to the Commission for approval. He noted a reduction in
height may alter the plan, but Staff felt enough information had
been provided to the Commission to enable a decision at this time.
He then stated the Commission's alternatives.
Mr. Lee explained his position regarding the grandfather clause by
stating a review of Ordinance 91-063 (providing a grandfather
clause and lowered structure height to a maximum of 30 feet) ,
resulted in the determination that a complete package has been
submitted to the City by the applicant prior to November 5, 1991.
Additionally, by use of the discretionary permit process, changes
and revisions were suggested and requested by the City and made by
the applicant. Mr. Lee stated the application of this Ordinance is
a discretionary call by the Commission and addresses whether or not
the most recently submitted plans are a logical extension of the
original plans submitted prior to November 5, 1991.
Mr. Lee stated the next issue for the Commission's dec·ision was
whether or not the deadline provided in the grandfather clause
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applied to this project. He recommended that the deadline
provision of the Ordinance should not be applied due to the
multitude of changes and revisions required by the City and the
long delay in waiting for a response from CalTrans. He recommended
two conditions be added: (1) the project must be consistent with
the plans approved by the Commission at this time, and ( 2) a
6-month time limit from the date of approval is established in
which to obtain a building permit. These two conditions would meet
the Ordinance intent. He noted the Commission could limit the
height to 35 feet or under if it wished to exercise discretion
regarding project esthetics.
Comm. Di Monda determined the required landscaping trees were
smaller than others previously required on other projects. He
stated he wished to discuss more trees in the landscaping plans.
Mr. Schubach stated trees are not only decorative, but would serve
as noise buffers. Vice-Chmn. Marks noted the number of units had
increased and a gift shop, beauty salon and piano bar had been
added in the revised plans. Mr. Schubach stated adequate parking
was available.
Public Hearing opened by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 8:19 p.m.
Jeremy Yeh, 49 South Catalina Avenue, Pasadena, acknowledged the
plan changes, noted the major concern regarding 1st Place egress,
discussed the creation of more "ocean view" units and bay windows.
He explained the revisions to the buildings and room locations
using an artist's rendering of the front and back views of the
structures. He stated the piano bar would provide a nice place for
local adults to go; the lobby, stairway and piano bar locations
were planned to avoid noise carrying to the residential zone.
Vice-Chmn. Marks confirmed the specific plan revisions made with
Mr. Yeh. Mr. Yeh stated that when the project was originally
begun, the maximum height limit was 40 feet. He discussed the
design of the roof, the subterranean parking and the grade level as
they affected the structure height. Mr Yeh also rtoted the
restaurant business would financially help the hotel and visa
versa. He said if the roof level was reduced to 35 feet, the
project would need to be redesigned. ,He felt such a reduction
would be unfair, based upon the input received by the applicant
during his efforts to obtain the necessary approvals.
Mr. Yeh and Comm. Di Monda discussed the exterior finish of the
building, with Mr. Yeh noting that stainless steel would be used
for the railings and that one piece clay tile will be used.
Richard Laraba, owner/builder/developer 705 1st Street, felt the
proposed structure height would intrude upon the privacy of his
building and the residential zone. He asked if the CalTrans report
required a deceleration zone or lane from 1st Street to the hotel
entrance, noting the speed of drivers on P.C.H. and the projected
increase in traffic on the surrounding streets and expressed
concern regarding the safety of residents due to the increase in
traffic. He also asked where vehicles were going to park during
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the construction period and thereafter, noting possible resultant
inconvenience to residents. Mr. Laraba noted that many residents
were not aware a hotel project is planned; no mention was made at
the time of the street-closure survey. Comm. Di Monda stated the
referenced rear deck was part of the fire exiting and irrelevant
with respect to a "view" location, due to its height and location
from the property line. He stated the building does not break the
35-feet height limit until approximately 30 feet back • from the
property line, and, if the hotel had a flat roof, it would meet
height limitations. Mr. Laraba requested a silhouette test be
conducted to ascertain the impact on his property's 360 degree
view.
John McQue, 718 1st Place, read the notification of survey he had
previously received, noting hotel construction was not mentioned.
He stated he owns three lots and should, therefore, have three
votes. Mr. McQue objected to the projected increase in traffic,
the vagueness of the survey terminology and requested a redistri-
bution of the survey with a more intense description of the plans.
He distributed to the Commission photographs for review, requested
that the existing wall remain.
Sonia Nichols, 703 1st
discussed the effect
Street. She asked if
hotel plans.
Street, stated she received no survey. She
the change in traffic would have on 1st
City residents had been notified about the
June Williams, 2065 Hermosa Blvd., stated she opposed the building
of the hotel. She felt the adjoining properties had only
single-story buildings. She wished to block the construction of
the hotel since it will eliminate her ocean view and asked her if
she had the ability to do this. Mr. Lee explained the allowable
construction under existing regulations and stated Ms. Williams
could not prevent construction. Mr. Schubach responded building
directly across the street are three stories and the plans are
consistent with the general area. She invited the Commission to
her home to assess the view blockage. Vice-Chmn. Marks suggested
she use the lamp posts as guidelines of view blockage. Ms.
Williams stated she had already done that. She stated the City
does not need an additional place for adults to go dancing.
Harold Anchell, 624 3rd Street, stated a right turn onto on P.C.H.
during rush hour from 3rd Street is a nightmare and felt a deceler-
ation lane at the hotel entrance was required. He also suggested a
time limit be established for the project. He stated the contrac-
tor was aware the height limit was going to be lowered, and felt
the project should be treated in the same manner as the residential
projects are; both should be limited to 30 feet.
Paul Olson, 705 First Street, felt the City Council and Commission
members should drive on P.C.H. to find out what is going on. He
questioned how people coming from the direction of Redondo Beach
going to get to the hotel. He stated he has uplifted his property
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and the City is trying to downgrade it, not taking into consider-
ation the impact upon the City. He then discussed traffic problems
he personally had experienced on Pacific Coast Highway.
Ed Mora, 846 1st Street, stated the backlash is already here; a
hotel will only magnify the problems.
Johnny Bruce, 846 1st Street, stated she and a few other neighbors
received the survey, but many other neighbors on the same street
side were not. She felt all the neighbors should be notified, when
the impact the entire area. She then discussed the increased
travel time going to and from work, stating this increase should be
considered and protested any additional air pollution that would
result.
Public Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 9:25 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the additional of a
traffic light, determining that if one were added, another would
need to be removed. Mr. Schubach stated both Cal Trans and Staff
had conducted traffic studies. He referenced the previous car
dealership that had been at the location, noted the resultant
traffic and discussed the traffic pattern than would be generated
by a hotel, which would be spread over time, therefore, not
requiring a deceleration lane.
Vice-Chmn. Marks expressed his concerns regarding the height limit,
the single means of egress and the possible increase of traffic on
1st Street. Comm. Merl commented keeping traffic from 1st Street
was addressed previously as an objective.
Mr. Schubach responded to Comm. Di Monda' s proposed motion by
stating the survey would take additional time, if the survey
suggested a connection with the hotel, it must be made clear that
the hotel and survey are not connected. Comm. Di Monda suggested
surveying 1st Place and 1st Street residents' feelings and adding
the following verbiage: "There is a potential for commercial
development on the corner which might lead to increased traf fie.
The City is considering a street cul-de-sac to alleviate the
possibility of that problem." Survey denial does not • mean the
hotel is also denied. If information isn't immediately available
regarding the traf fie signals, an indeterminable amount of time
would be required for CalTrans response. Mr. Schubach stated view
blockage between three-feet differences are difficult to determine,
but Staff would try to make that determination.
Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Schubach the responsibility for site
clean-up and maintenance to prevent it site becoming an "eye-sore".
Mr. Schubach agreed to contact the Building Department and sug-
gested that the public also contact the responsible agent { s) to
-assure proper "boarding up" was accomplished and maintained. The
Planning Commission suggested to the applicant that he also make
sure the site and facilities are well secured prior to the Building
Department's inspection.
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MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE PDP
91-5/CUP 91-26 to the Planning Commission meeting of June 16, 1992.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
ASK the applicant to provide more information based upon
the concerns the neighbors have expressed in order to
review them with the possibility of mitigation;
specifically the traffic concerns and school crossing
safety; can the traffic lights be relocated to improve
safety,
REDO the survey regarding putting a cul-de-sac on 1st
Place, inform the local residents the specifics as to
reasons the survey is being conducted,
REVIEW the necessity of a higher buffer wall,
REVIEW the possibility of the trash area relocation,
DIRECT Staff to obtain police records of some of the adult
restaurants within the City for Commission review and
obtain the Police Chief's opinion as to how he feels adult
restaurants impact police services,
DIRECT Staff to obtain more landscape plan clarification,
particularly along 1st Street and Pacific Coast Highway
with respect to the planting size and incorporation of a
continuous planting edge along the higher buffer wall,
ASK the Public Works Department to provide a diagram or
map of traffic flow if 1st Place is made a cul-de-sac,
DIRECT Staff to silhouette the building, using the balloon
method, to determine the view blockage difference between
a 35-feet and 38-feet building and provide the results to
the Commission,
DIRECT Staff to contact the Building Department, request-
ing that proper "boarding up" of the facilities in
completed and that such action be addressed immediately.
DIRECT Staff to obtain from the Building Department the
status of complaints and violations pertinent to this
property.
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Vice-Chinn. Marks
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
A break was taken from 9:48 until 9:56 p.m.
HEARINGS
ZON 91-3 ZONE CHANGE FROM OPEN SPACE (OS) TO TWO FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL (R-2) TO BRING INTO CONSISTENCY WITH THE GE ERAL PLAN,
OR TO SUCH OTHER ZONE AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AT 598 FIRST STREET (referred from April 14, 1992 City
Council).
Recommended Action: To recommend approval of a zone change from
Open space to two Family Residential (R-2) to subject property.
10 P.C.Minutes 5/5/92
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating rezoning of this
property to R-2 would be consistent with the General Plan and the
general area. He stated, if zoned. R-2, three units or a density of
19 units per acre would be allowed per the zoning ordinance. Mr.
Schubach also discussed the City Council's decision to require
additional setbacks, three parking spaces per unit and a reduction
in the number of units allowed on neighboring properties, but
stated the allowance of only two units on this 128-feet deep by 40
to 45-feet wide property or a density of 12.7 units per acre would
not be consistent with the Medium Density General Plan designation
for the area. He discussed the diversity of the area, zoning for
specific plans on neighboring lots, and then stated Staff saw no
strong reasons to reduce the number of units from three to two and
did not believe that special zoning for a single lot was necessary.
Vice-Chmn. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the specifics of the
"S.P.A. 4" designation.
Hearing opened by Vice-Chrnn. Marks at 10:02 p.m.
Harry Pecorelli, 752 22nd Street, San Pedro, applicant, stated that
due to economical reasons, he hoped to return to Hermosa Beach and
live on the subject property. He stated he would have many com-
ments to make pertaining to the proposed hotel being built adjacent
to 1st Street, but would only address his application at this time.
He explained the property's past zoning, protested any reduction to
only two units, which he felt would devalue his property. He re-
quested approval of a zone change to R-2. Comm. Di Monda commented
upon the lot depth, stating it could certainly accommodate three
units and asked if Mr. Pecorelli would object to a 10-foot setback.
Mr. Pecorelli stated he felt the Council was spot zoning him,
planned to remodel the current II front II building and the garage to
allow him to live in it. He stated he would like to build units at
sometime in the future to assure an income for his retirement. He
wished to have the latitude to build three units.
Hearing closed by Vice-Chmn. Marks at 10:07 p.m.
After discussion between Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach, it was
determined the parking requirement for R-2 zoning was: two parking
spaces per unit, plus one additional space for every two units.
Comm. Di Monda did not feel parking would be an issue on this par-
ticularly large lot. He felt the parking requirement could be
increased to one guest parking space per unit and add a condition
for consideration of a larger setback (possibly 10 feet) require-
ment at the time the tentative map is presented, which would allow
approximately 25 feet of available open space.
Comm. Merl supported the rezoning based upon the lot size and
consistency with the properties east of the subject lot.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda to APPROVE a zone change from open space
(OS) to two-family residential (R-2), but to incorporate the
requirement for one guest parking space per unit and the condition
for an increased setback.
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After discussion with Mr. Lee, the motion was WITHDRAWN by Comm. Di
Monda. Mr. Lee suggested that if recommendation to rezoning to R-2
were made, conditions should not be applied to the parcel until the
point in time when the owner submitted an application for a devel-
opment. The Commission would then have an opportunity, through the
C.U.P., to review and establish applicable conditions.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE a
zone change from open space (OS) to two-family residential (R-2),
as originally recommended by the Planning Commission, and advise
the applicant that at the time of submittal of a C. U .P., the
Commission will review setbacks and parking to assure conformity
with some of the special plan areas in the neighborhood, as well as
the standard conditions.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Suard and Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
None
Chmm. Ketz
SS 92-3 SPECIAL S.TUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING
ORDINANCE IN REGARD TO RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS,
DEFINITION OF BASEMENTS, AND MINIMIZING BOOTLEG POTENTIAL.
Recommended Action: To set for public hearing.
Mr. Schubach stated this item was a clarification of an open-space
Policy Statement previously adopted by the Commission. This clar-
ification requires a percentage of open space at the living area
level and "cleans up" previous ordinance language.
Vice-Chmn. Marks requested Section 2(b) be changed to read, " ... and
directly accessible to primary living areas. Primary living areas
include living rooms, dining rooms, combination living, dining
rooms and kitchen and family rooms ... ", to which the Commission
agreed. -
Comm. Di Monda felt that the ability to cover up to 50% of the open
space area was excessive. After discussion, Mr. Schubach noted the
Commission's ability to hold a public hearing to further discuss
any concerns relating to this amendment. Staff was requested to
further investigate and provide suggested alterations to the 50%
open space coverage allowance.
Comm. Suard felt the definition of open space was very confusing
and suggested clarification be made in this definition. Addi-
tionally, Section 4(e) (2) should be changed to read, " ... of five
(5) or more units ... ". He felt that Section 1, Open Space should
be based upon a percentage of lot size requirement rather than an
absolute square-foot figure. He felt that the smaller the lot, the
less the open space requirement should be and the larger the lot,
the more the open space requirement should be, which is not the
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case with the current method of specified square-feet requirement.
Mr. Schubach stated this major change could be made a part of the
HIP Program, which Staff has already been directed to address.
Comm. Suard felt Section 1, as written, is an injustice to property
owners that can be easily corrected, and wished the change to be
made or an explanation as to why it should not be changed. Mr.
Schubach agreed to research this question and return with his
findings to the Commission.
Vice-Chmn. Marks reiterated his concerns from previous meetings
relating to the definitions of floors. He felt if it has a roof
and a floor area, it is a floor. Mr. Schubach stated this study is
to be part of the land-use study.
MOTION by Vice-Chmn. Marks, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to DIRECT
Staff to set a Public Hearing, to bring back for discussion all
suggested changes in addition to those recommended during this
meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Vice-Chmn. Marks
None
None
Chmn. Ketz
SECOND QUARTER GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Vice-Chmn. Marks asked the status of the Pier Project, to which Mr.
Schubach responded the preliminary design was scheduled to be
submitted in June/July 1992. Vice-Chrnn. Marks confirmed that the
Beach Drive Parking plan would also be presented during the next,
scheduled Planning Commission meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated the General Plan Land Use Element draft was
close to completion. This draft ( and others) would also require
the approval of the Coast Commission staff, after submittal by
Staff of an explanation as to what has been done to meet the Coast
Commission's land use plan. Mr. Schubach explained the steps for
approvals by the Coast Commission,. Commission and City Council.
Responding to Comm. Suard's question, Mr. Schubach stated inconsis-
tencies, not spot zoning, existed within the City, and will be
reviewed as part of the land-use element.
STAFF ITEMS
a. MEMORANDUM REGARDING HOUSING ELEMENT "LOT COVERAGE" CHART.
Mr. Schubach explained a request to Staff by the Commission had
been made as a result of comments made by the public. He stated
the noted chart was being taken out of context. However, when used
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as reference for seven projects, Staff felt it was close to the
reality of the projects. Staff noted results in Exhibit A and
provided computer-generated charts for the Commission's informa-
tion. Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed architectural
projections, which are not included in the lot coverage computa-
tions. Comm . Di Monda noted that it appeared that 65% lot coverage
was a great deal more when projects were designed with cantilevered
balconies, making the structures appear more bulky. He requested
Staff provide schematics of projections for the Commission's
review, to which Mr. Schubach agreed.
b. CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION/CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE JOINT
WORKSHOP MEETING.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
c. PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT OF MARCH, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
d. MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON FOR MAY 12,
1992 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Mr. Schubach stated ZON 91-3 would return to the City Council.
Comm. Di Monda stated he might attend that meeting. RECEIVE AND
FILE.
e. TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
f. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF APRIL 14, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda referenced the appeal of a condominium project
presented at the City Council meeting, noting the comments made
regarding side yard setback averaging that were in the Housing
Element and not in the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Schubach responded
that the previous Council had requested streamlining (averaging).
He stated front yard setback are averaged according to policy and
averaging of all setbacks will be included in the Housing Element
-as a policy, and will be discussed during review of the HIP
Program. Mr. Schubach read the applicable section of the Housing
Element.
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Comm. Di Monda, on behalf of the Planning Commission, tnanked the
Police and Fire Departments and the volunteers for their excellent
efforts and performance during the recent riots.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
10:57 P.M. NO OBJECTIONS; SO ORDERED.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of May 5, 1992.
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Robert B. Marks, Vice-Chairman Michael Schubach, Secretary
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON APRIL 21, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms; Di Monda, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Merl
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Roger Springer, Assistant City Attorney,
Paul Corneal, Building Department
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the April 7, 1992 Planning Commission meeting, with the
following changes:
Page 3, Paragraph 2: Correct Motion made by Comm. Suard, which
discusses a motion to DENY, but doesn't state that mot.ion was
withdrawn and a Motion to CONTINUE then made.
Page 10, Final Paragraph: Change the last sentence to read,
" ... with only 13 parking spaces, of which six were compact
parking spaces, being provided. She also was concerned
regarding the number of spaces in relationship to new use."
Resolution 92-24: Paragraph "B" is to be rewritten to state
that the sideyard set backs do not comply with the literal
interpretation, in that the Commission wished to maintain the
sideyards as required by the Code.
Resolution P.C. 92-22, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PARKING PLAN FOR A TWO-STORY INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING, AND ADOPTION OF A MITIGATED ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION, AT 601 CYPRESS AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 92-5, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #23286, AND PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 3-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 1901 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
CoJDJns. Di Monda, Marks, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
CoJDJn. Merl
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding an item not on
the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
L-5 LEGAL DETERMINATION HEARING TO DETERMINE THE LEGALITY OF
AN EXISTING 6-UNIT APARTMENT LOCATED AT 1150 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Recommended Action:
5-unit apartment.
To determine said property to be legal for
Mr. Corneal, representing the Building Department, gave the Staff
Report, explaining the history of the original structure and the
additional on-site structures as they related to the then~existing
Zoning Codes. He stated the options available to the Planning
Commission, based upon the information received. Comm. Di Monda
and Mr. Corneal discussed the location of the single-family
dwelling and the four units, as well as the dates of issuance of
the permits and the county tax records, which disp1ayed two
separate structures.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:06 p.m.
Nick Yamamuro, property owner, stated he had just received Staff's
report and had not had an opportunity to thoroughly review the
document. He noted a "window" when the structure could have been
made legal in 1954. He stated he had inherited the property, the
previous owner had owned the property since 1964. Mr. Yamamuro
also stated his understanding that the structures were legal only
since 1964 and had collected data with that objective; not
realizing that other problems were also involved. Mr. Corneal
explained Staff was trying to determine if between 1"954 and 1956
the structures had been legally existing. Mr. Yamamuro stated the
separate unit had been a maid's and then a nurse's quart~rs .
. .
Sheila Donahue Miller, 77 17th Street, asked if the City had the
building permits from 1954 and 1955. When Chairman Ketz started to
respond, Ms. Miller interrupted her, stating she "did not wish to
be interrupted". Mr. Corneal stated the City did have building
permits, but was now determinin9 if the structures were le9ally
constructed. Ms. Miller requested the Public Hearing be continued
in order to allow the applicant more time to obtain additional
information.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:15 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda discussed construction possibilities with Mr.
Corneal, determining the square footage was the same in 1941 as
later and construction could have been legally permitted during the
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1954-56 window. Mr. Springer confirmed the Title Report would
furnish a legal description, but a Litigation Guarantee would
probably supply the additional, requested information.
MOTION b¥ Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE the
application to the meeting of June 2, 1992, to allow the applicant
adequate time for report review, rebuttal and document presenta-
tion.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl
PDP 91-18 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW AUTO
DETAILING IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CAR WASH, PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW EMPLOYEE PARKING ON ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1000 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY,
HERMOSA CAR WASH (continued from February 4 and March 17, 1992
meetings).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit
amendment and adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the revised plans addressed the concerns
expressed by the Commission and defined those concerns and
solutions. He stated the parking had been maximized, Staff
believed a complete closure of the exit onto 10th Street would be
the best solution, and no additional information had been received
as to noise abatement. Mr. Schubach discussed access to an
adjacent parking lot area and the associated parking and movement
problems. He stated Staff recommended approval of the C.U.P. with
conditions or a denial of same due to the applicant's reluctance to
address various problems.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:27 p.m.
Peter Paladino, Paladino Architects, 215 Pier Avenue, representing
the applicant, stated five issues existed of which all but two had
been addressed, itemizing the actions taken. He stated the noise
problem had also been addresses by baffle and insulation instal-
lation, which dropped the noise levels, but no tests had been
conducted to date. He discussed the acoustical remedies, methods
and his qualifications with Comm. Marks. Mr. Paladino explained
the rear driveway is used approximately 10 times per day as an
employee exit. The driveway is an exit only and not an entrance,
but very necessary to the business.
Richard O' Bryan, applicant, explained he had conducted his own
noise tests, added acoustical material and had further reduced the
noise levels by approximately 10-20 decimals. Comm. Di Monda dis-
cussed current and proposed parking, as well as exiting. Comm. Di
Monda stated realistic parking requirements are necessary and
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suggested parking spaces Nos. 7 through .11 be eliminated, adding 2
or 3 spaces in -the back section, resulting in 8 parking spaces.
Messrs. 0 'Bryan and Paladino discussed the parking requirements
with Comm. Di Monda. Mr. Paladino asked if the empty employee-
parking spaces could be used for customers if less spaces were
needed for the employees. Mr. Schubach stated as long as the
employees are not parking on the street, the additional empty
spaces could be used for drying of cars. Comm. Di Monda again
suggested reducing the parking re!quirement burden to a realistic
plan, to which the applicant agre_ed.
Sahib Nikiam, 10th Street, stated he did not object to the car
wash, but he and his neighbors on 10th Street requested that 10th
Street be closed, due to the narrowness of the streets and unsafe
drivers. He presented a petition requesting that closure to the
Commission. Comm. Marks discussed the narrowness of the ·streets
and the dead-end streets which resulted in traffic congestion with
Mr. Nikiam.
Doug Holsinger, 10th Street~·-stated his concerns regarding trafftc
on 10th Street. He felt that anything that increases 10th Street
traffic will negatively impact the neighborhood.
Peter Paladino agreed that the dead-end sign was not visible and
suggested the tree in front of the sign be trimmed or make the sign
more visible to traffic to alleviate unnecessary traffic.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:50 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda suggested that 6 parking spaces during the week and
a few more on the week ends be required, with the requirement for
striping deleted. He suggested that Resolution 92-4, Section 1,
Paragraph 2 be revised to reflect a more realistic parking
requirement; Paragraph 5 referred to Public Works Department
requirements, to which he suggested Staff provide what those
requirements were to the Commission; Paragraph 13 discusses noise
emanations, to which he felt it had been made clear that the
Commission was asking the applicant to go above and beyond the
noise ordinance; Paragraph 16's language should be less offensive
or restrictive; a "right-turn only" sign from the business exit
onto 10th Street should be considered after obtaining clearance
through the Public Works Department. Comm. Di Monda asked that
Staff notify Public Works the signage was inadequate and discuss
with Public Works the possibility of a "right-turn only" sign.
Comm. Marks asked the noise level be verified to assure that it is
within an acceptable range. He proposed continuance to allow
further investigation of the issues.
Chmn. Ketz expressed concern regarding commercial traffic on
residential streets and business' employees parking on residential
streets. She stated the wording of Paragraph 16 was acceptable to
her, but that she was still concerned about the driveway exit onto
10th Street.
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Comm. Suard asked ·if a. chain link fence or a card-key· controlled
gate across the exit would be feasible in terms of enforcement, to
which Mr. Schubach stated both could be operable. Mr. Schubach
suggested the "right-turn only" exit might be considered.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to CONTINUEJ,the
application to the meeting of May .19, 1992, pending Public Works
Department's response to the possibility of a "right-turn only"
sign. at the ·driveway, obtain a quantified sound reading to assure
compliance with the · noise Ordinance, obtain landscaping
requirements from Public Works Department and amendment of the
parking plan to include week-end situations.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl
CUP 92-5/PARK 92-2 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW SLOT CAR RACING IN CONJUNCTION WITH A HOBBY STORE, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 950 AVIATION
BOULEVARD, SUITES A & B, THE RACER'S EDGE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit, and
adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated the requested combination use of hobby shop and
slot-car racing is not considered uncommon, in that larger stores
combine uses to promote the line of merchandise. He described the
plan usage, business orientation and the requirement for adult
supervision during all business hours. The business hours were
recommended as closure at 10:00 p.m. week-days and 11:00 p.m.
week-ends. Staff recommended observation to assure no parking
problems existed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:05 p.m.
Dennis Scanlan, 831 6th Street, requested the hours be extended
during the summer months to 12:00 a.m. on week ends to allow adult
participation during the later hours. Mr. Schubach stated the
establishment abutted a residential area and recommended an 11:00
p.m. closure on week ends. Comm. Marks suggested consideration of
a one-month trial period of week-end closure at 12:00 a.m. Mr.
Scanlan asked if four video games would be allowed, rather than the
three currently stated. Staff stated that four video machines
instead of three would not be a problem.
Matt Dodge, 821 6th Street, wanted to know why he was responsible
for moving the trash containers, to which Mr. Schubach stated it
was the property owner's responsibility because the permit runs
with the land. He stated they did not and would not be serving
food on premises.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:11 p.m.
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Comm.·Di Monda suggested the week-end closing hours · be·extended to
12:00 a.m. and four video games be al lowed on site, with a six-
month review by the Commission. He discussed the purpose of
Resolution Paragraph 11 with Mr. Schubach. Comm. Di Monda felt
this article put a burden on the Police Chief and requested the
Condition changed to read, in essence, "The Police Chief and/or
Planning Department may determine that a continuing police problem
exists and may present that fact to the attention of the -planning
Commission -at a public -hearing, which may require security
personnel paid by the · business." He suggested the. specific
language be approved by the City Attorney. Mr. Schubach stated
that the Police Chief had expressed the opinion that the Police
Dept. should have authority to resolve problems without waiting for
a public hearing, but that Comm. Di Monda' s suggestion might be
feasible.
Comm. Di Monda felt Paragraph 13, prohibition of food and drink or
game abuse was a business responsibility and not the Commission's.
He questioned Paragraph 14, in total, as being discriminatory, to
which Chmn. Ketz agreed. Comm. Marks felt it could be used as a
management tool. It was agreed to wait for the City Attorney's
response regarding this item. Mr. Schubach stated this item had
been included in the interest of consistency.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE the
application to the meeting of May 5, 1992, and when it is returned
to the Commission to AMEND Condition 2 to extend week-end closures
until 12:00 a.m., Condition 8(a) to four video games, Condition 11
to assure return to the Planning Commission, Condition 13 deleting
the prohibition against food, drink and game abuse, and to obtain
the City Attorney's opinion regarding Conditions 14 and 11.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl
A break was taken from 8:25 p.m. to 8:33 p.m.
SS 92-5 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING
ORDINANCE TO REDUCE THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT IN R-3 AND R-P ZONES AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Recommended Action: To recommend approval
alternatives listed in the Staff Report and
Environmental Negative Declaration.
of one of
adoption of
the
the
Mr. Schubach discussed and summarized the Staff-recommended
alternatives regarding the height of condominiums and apartments
within the R-3 and R-P zones. He stated the alternatives were
consistent with the General Plan Housing Element. Those
alternatives were:
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A.
B.
c.
F
G
H
Maintain the R-3 height limit at 35 feet.
Reduce the height limit from 35 to 30 feet (or
any other acceptable number of feet)
Reduce the height limit to 30 feet, but allow the
Commission to approve limit-exceeding projects up i•,=-
to a 35-feet maximum when it has been demonstrated
that surrounding existing buildings are over 30
feet in height .
Establish different ·height limits based on the
neighborhood area
Establish two sets of height requirements depen-
dent upon the type of roof design
Establish a view protection ordinance instead of
changing height limits
Reduce the amount of upper floor buildable area
instead of change height limits
A combination of alternatives
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:40 p.m.
Betty Ryan, 588 20th Street, requested the public hearing be
continued until individual noticing to all effected property owners
be accomplished. Mrs. Ryan volunteered to assist with the
noticing. She asked that if this i tern were not continued that
Alternative A be approved by the Commission.
Dean Hult, 830 Monterey Avenue, stated the changes would downgrade
all R-3 J?roperties. He discussed his plans to tear down and
replace his structure, the impact on property taxes that action
would have and requested the height limit remain as is, with no
change.
Sandy Pringle, 747 Monterey Avenue, recently purchased his property
with plans to add a bedroom which would result in a 35-feet
building height. He requested that all property owners be
individually notified and volunteered to help accomplish that
Sheila Donahue-Miller, 77 17th Street, property owner of· 2922 and
2920 Hermosa Avenue, stated the property next to her was 35 feet
high. She discussed building a pool, her lack of privacy, her
previous ability to build six units, down-zoning of her property to
R-2, additional cuts will continue to destroy her property value.
She discussed the locations of R-3 lots. She noted she was on her
third law suit against Hermosa Beach and would now initiate a
fourth.
Carol Simons, 218 Longfellow Avenue, felt it was essential that the
effected property owners be notified on an individual basis. She
proposed the eight possible alternatives be place in writing and
sent to the property owners for their review.
Jim Babliani, 1011 Bayview Drive, felt the
much power in the hands of the Commission.
with the intention of adding another story,
alternatives put too
He bought his property
and, therefore, opposed
any change in the height limitation.
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Jim Rosenberger, Bayview Avenue, felt the Commission had changed
"from dealing with a scalple to dealing with a shot gun to the
whole town in terms of R-3" in the approach. He stated his
neighboring building was taller than 45 feet and doesn't want a
restriction placed upon himself,.which would result in his being in
a "canyon". He suggested a .careful review area-by-area since each
section is independent .in nature from the others. He requested the
height limit be left "as is" or only those alternatives with
flexibility be considered. He felt Alternative A should be left
alone, B • and C are not , wise, D through F have merit and G is a
combination of all the rest. Comm. Di Monda noted that Alternative
C gave a lot of flexibility; 30 feet with descretion to 35 feet
height if a possible "canyon" condition exists. In Mr. Rosenber-
ger's case, most of the block is built to 35 feet and would allow
him the same. Comm. Di Monda stated most of the alternatives did
take into fact the problems presented by testimony during this
meeting. Mr. Rosenberger acknowledged the possibility of a
third-floor setback as a good option, but still felt the Commission
should make the City Council aware of the problems being created by
mixed zones, which should be reviewed differently than strictly R~3
zones.
Mike Fletcher, 414 The Strand, purchased his property with the
intention of adding a master bedroom on the second floor. He
described the tall, neighboring residents, stating he did not wish
to live next to two enormous structures and not be able to add
height to his own property. He suggested the Commission consider
his problem which is similar to many other property owners and
expressed his surprise that only the height, rather than height and
bulk, issue was being addressed. He stated height was not targeted
by the Ordinance.
Mary McGee, 602 Manhattan Avenue, stated she was tired of her
property being down zoned. Her neighboring properties' structures
are at the 35-feet height. She stated Alternative B gave too much
discretion to the Commission. Mr. McGee reiterated her opposition
to any change in height limitation.
John Rogers, 326 10th Street, stated residents are 10-0 against any
change in height restriction based upon the effect upon property
values. He discussed the considerable amount of reconstruction
within the City and asked the height limitation remain as-is.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., discussed a letter he had
written and mailed to property owners and stated the importance of
getting as much input as possible. He discussed the resident vote,
noting that 65% of the voters were tenants, not property owners,
and challenged non-owners' participation in the advisory vote. He
stated advisory votes are not law and should not be reviewed as
such. He cautioned against "railroading" the height modification
into existence. He agreed zoning was incorrect in pockets of the
City, but felt the entire R-3 zone should not be changed. He
discussed the Commission's and Staff's efforts, but felt they were
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wasted since the City Council already had three votes to change the
height limit. He felt that Alte!rnatives C and D allowed an open
door and flexibility. He also felt it was absolutely and funda-
mentally wrong for the City to suggest or make a modification to
anyone's property rights and values without individually notifying
that person and noted there were 1800 R-3 zoned property owners
which need to be notified. He volunteered to assist in that
notification.
Conun. Di Monda stated Mr. Compton had read the City Council pretty
accurately, but had discussed some items not under the Conunission's
control. The Commission could recommend some combination of alter-
natives to address everyone's concerns. Conun. Di Monda calculated
that removal of five foot from the height allowance would result in
the possible loss of mezzinines or approximately 200 sq. ft. of
buildable area. Mr. Compton confirmed this calcul ation. Alterna-
tive G required greater setbacks, which will probably result in the
loss of at least 200 buildable sq. feet. Comm. Di Monda stated the
loss of buildable area was the discussion topic and requested Mr.
Compton's comments regarding this issue. Mr. Compton asked how a
reasonably-sized, saleable unit could be constructed with the loss
of square footage or if a restrictive situation would be created,
resulting in much less up9rading to older uni ts. Mr. Compton
explained the use of a similar set-back requirement to the front
and rear of the properties, creating a mezzinine area in the center
of the building. He stated this design was not well liked by many
people. He felt property owners have property rights and should be
heard prior to any decision being made by the Commission. He
expressed architects' problems in having t o adhere to a rule that
has not yet been c hanged and stated this practice was an unfair
requirement.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Compton further discussed an angled,
sky-exposure plane (Alternative G) related to height limits and
street width. Mr. Compton supported the sky-exposure plane, stated
the first floor would be a garage only , and, if thought through
carefully, the problems are turned over before becoming a reality.
He stated the lot coverage draft on Staff Report Page 32 is a joke;
it will not work, it doesn't relate to a 17-feet setback or open
space, and decisions should not be based on inaccurate data. Mr.
Schubach stated they were discus sing gross floor area; Staff had
the samples used, offered to show those samples to Mr. Compton and
to review any examples as to how it would not work Mr. Compton
cared to submit. Mr. Compton stated only four members of the
audience had received copies of the Staff Report and felt
information should be available to the affected residents, all who
should be noticed.
Larry Peha, 67 14th Street, architect, noted the height measurement
method was inconsistent and stated clear-cut direction was needed
by both the architects and property owners. He felt height alone
was not the problem, but rather a combination of items. He
suggested the implications of the change be reviewed before taking
any actions.
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Garrison Frost; 58 Pier Avenue, discussed his concern regarding .the
City's image due to the changes in requirements and the City's
reputation for giving people a bad time and the difficulty in
dealing with the City. He stated less people are now willing to
buy property in Hermosa Beach.
Jim Perry, 223· Monterey Avenue, stated he intended to rebuild and
improve his property and that the arbitrary changes of the building
codes has taken square footage away and another change would result
in 'the same. He stated 'his neighbor is going into foreclosure on
his property due to the City's actions and he, himself, would soon
have an unbuildable lot.
Jim Gallager, 3314 Highland, agreed with Mr. Frost's previous
statements. He stated his 20-year residency has been an on-going
struggle to survive because the City does not leave the property
owner's alone. He agreed that Hermosa Beach did have a reputation
and that the City had a responsibility to let people know what it
is doing. He stated not one person for a height reduction had
spoken, so why was the City even addressing the issue. He
supported Alternative C.
George Taylor, 300 Manhattan Avenue, planned to improve his
property by the addition of two condominiums and the height limit
would make that extremely difficult. He stated that he thought the
purpose of communication was to give direction to the Council, not
just implement its biases. He then stated his opposition to any
change within the height limit and his support of individual
noticing. Comm. Di Monda responded decisions must be based upon
reality and with fairness. He stated if an Ordinance is well and
clearly written with clear criteria, it gives the power and
discretion to deviate from the criteria. Architects may submit a
preliminary set of drawings to the Planning Dept., which is not as
great a burden as it seems to appear.
Shirley Castle, 611 Monterey Boulevard, quoted Councilman Edgerton
as having said his mind was made up and not going to be changed.
She stated it was not fair to the people of City for Councilmernbers
to have closed minds. She discussed the lack of light due to tall
buildings surrounding her property and asked why she should take a
loss on the sale of her property just because the rules have
changed again. She stated the residents had paid a lot of money
for their land and the City was down zoning their property
resulting is loss of property value. She discussed a current law
suit and stated the Commissioners and Councilmernbers may end up as
part of it. '
Bob Stroffee, 3205 The Strand, reiterated other speakers statements
that no one had spoken in favor for reducing the height limit.
Bonnie Coke, 1921 Manhattan Avenue, a fourth-generation resident,
discussed the down zoning, property growth and change~ she has
witnessed in Hermosa Beach.
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Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:41 p.m.
Comm. Marks discussed Alternative F with Mr. Schubach, who
explained the requirements and methods of measurement . in this
alternative. Comm .. Di Monda explained to the audience the
procedure to be followed by Staff, the Commission and City Council,
including review and renotification requirements., which was
confirmed by Mr. Schubach. Chmn. Ketz confirmed with Mr •. Schubach
that the Commission would be making recommendation to the City
Council regarding alternatives, but not a specific ordinance.
Comm.· Di Monda stated that none of the stand-alone alternatives
address all of the concerns, assuming the height limit is lowered.
A combination of "C" "E" and "G" would be of interest and discussed
the impact of these alternatives. He stated that if "D" became a
choice, he wished to see a map displaying the areas to be subject
to "D" and relative to "G", requested an example based on page 72's
chart with graphics of typical lot sizes and lot coverage.
Mr. Schubach explained the City Council wished to ~review each
individual standard and had started with height. Chmn. Ketz
confirmed there had been no direction to review all at one time.
Comm. Suard felt there were a lot of interacting forces and this
was a very piece-meal method and there were more logical procedures
which could be taken. He questioned the Commission's ability to
complete a recommendation in the short timeframe and noted specific
problems, such as island zoning and "half lots". Comm. Suard
stated Alternative "E" would allow leeway in architectural
significance, to which Chmn. Ketz agreed. The Commission agreed to
consider a combination of C, G and E.
Comm. Di Monda explained the Commission was only sending ·some type
of concept for approval by the City Council, with a lot more to do
thereafter, to which Chmn. Ketz concurred. Comms. Marks and Suard
did not feel they were in agreement with the alternatives offered.
Comm. Marks felt no change should be made to the 35-feet height
limit and another nuance to lessen density should be considered.
The Commission discussed the height necessary to obtain a three-
story building. Chmn. Ketz felt flexibility should be allowed
while requiring a 30-feet limit in some areas, the 17-feet setback
and Alternative "G" should be further reviewed. Comm. Di Monda
suggested a 35-feet height with a set-back at the third floor to
push the structure back from the street. Comm. Suard felt part of
the equation should include consideration as to what the structure
blocks (covered by Alternate C).
Mr. Schubach responded to the Commission that Staff could develop
rough language incorporating Alternatives C, B, D, E and G. Also,
a Minute Order, including the a cover sheet and Minutes, could be
forwarded to the City Council. Comm. Di Monda suggested the
inclusion of a recommendation to consider the problems experienced
by the Commission with noticing, so that everyone receives a notice
as this issue progresses, to which Chmn. Ketz agreed.
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MOTION by· Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to RECOMMEND to
City Council a combination of Alternatives C, D, E and G; request
Staff to review Alternative D and furnish information to the
Commission as to its meaning; and to notice all R-3 lot owners.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Marks
None
Conun. Merl
SS 86-12 TEXT AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING ADULT
USES AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION (CONTD.
FROM MARCH 3 AND APRIL 7, 1992 MEETINGS).
Recommended Action: To review additional data requested and direct
staff to set for public hearing.
Mr. Schubach presented the Staff Report, stating that ~ssentially
Staff was trying to provide an ordinance that is legally
defensible, based upon recommendations from the City Attorneys. He
referenced provision of previously requested information by the
Commission, including information provided for this meeting. Mr.
Schubach asked for a review of the information and direct Staff to
set this item for a public hearing to enable a Text Amendment to be
written.
Comm. Di Monda referenced several Orange County cities which use
County standards and asked if those standards could be used by
Hermosa City, since more coverage and detail was provided by those
standards. He recommended Staff review:
Page 29, Section 287, which should be "motel/hotel",
Section 288, which should be "/arcade",
Section 297, County's looks more inclusive than Hermosa
Beach's,
Page 32, Section 2, Paragraph 1, establishes 500 feet versus
200 feet,
Page 33, Line 7, deals with the number of video machines, as to
what that number was based upon,
Page 33, Section 21-8, repeal a section of the Municipal Code,
apparently no copy of the Code provided,
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Mr. Schubach the reasons for the
apparent lack of adult businesses in Orange County and Orange
County's Ordinance definitions. Mr. Schubach stated a 500-feet
requirement would preclude any business of this type within the
City and is, therefore, illegal. He responded to Comm. Di Manda's
suggestions, also stating that if the Commission felt the Orange
County's Ordinance definitions were preferable, they could be
adapted to Hermosa Beach. Comm. Di Monda expressed concern that
the Commission might set ground rules to make it easier for adult
businesses to begin in the City. The C.U.P. procedure would enable
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findings to be made relating to the requested use and impact upon
the neighborhood. Mr. Schubach stat ed the City Attorney had
reviewed and concurred with the recommendations made, but a "fine
tuning" should be completed prior to presentation to the City
Council.
Chmn. Ketz felt such establishments should be at least 200 feet
from-the property lines. Chmn. Ketz, Comm. Suard and Mr. Schubach
discussed the options of 200 feet from the front door or front
property line.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 10:19 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission relating to this item, and
the Public Hearing was closed by Chmn. Ketz at 10:19 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmm. Ketz, to SET SS 86-12
for a Public Hearing for Text Amendment at Staff's convenience.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Conun Merl
CON 90-4 A REQUEST FOR A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION OF THE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #21950 FOR A 3-UNIT CONDOMINIUM
AT 1105 CYPRESS AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To grant six-month extension.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, noted an error discovered by
Staff correcting R-2 to R-3 property built to the 35-feet height
maximum. He noted an alternative of extending this issue to only
June or July, 1992. Comm. Marks and Mr. Schubach discussed the
benefits of filing and Code change impacts upon the project, if no
grandfathering is done. Comm. Di Monda suggested this item be
extended to June or July, 1992, to be consistent in the handling of
other similar projects.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 10:29 p.m.
Cheryl Vargo, applicant's representative, encouraged a six-month
extension, stating three months was not adequate to record a map.
She stated the developer was not a large one, the building had a
14-foot slope, only a small portion of the building reached the
35-foot limit, the contractor hoped to start in the Fall, and with
a six-month extension, the applicant hoped to get the map recorded
and the project started.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 10:30 p.m.
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Comm. Suard stated he had a problem in granting an extension when
the Commission had just stated such a height limit would be
inappropriate. Comm. Di Monda felt that since the other
applications had been extended to June 1992, this one should be
also.
A MOTION was made by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Chmn. Ketz, that
in order to be consistent with past practices, to RECOMMEND an
extension until June 30, 1992; at which point, another extension
could be granted based upon City Council's actions.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
_Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Suard
None
Comm. Merl
NR 92-2 AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION
OF A BEDROOM, BATH AND FAMILY ROOM WHICH RESULTS IN GREATER THAN
50% EXPANSION TO A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT 1042 10TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant proposed a two-story attached
addition and noted the structure is nonconforming due to the
detached garage. He stated the addition was calculated to be 68%
of replacement value. He discussed the basic determinants and
factors of the proposal, noted ample available parking and
recommended approval.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 10:35 p.m.
Art Dawson, 1042 10th Street, a long-time resident, explained the
current set back requirements and stated he could current
accommodate four off-street parked cars. He discussed neighboring
one-car garages with less parking space than he has and stated his
proposal was consistent with the neighborhood. He presented
documents signed by neighbors attesting to his statem~nts. •
Larry Highler, 580 21st Street, reminded the Commission Mr. Dawson
was not a large contractor and only wished to increase the area of
the structure to enhance the living space for his family. He
stated the parking was more than adequate.
Comm. Marks noted that if the house were sold, the addition could
be changed into an apartment and requested a covenant upon the
property. Mr. Schubach stated that was usually done by the
Building Department through the deed, but could be included as a
condition by the Commission.
Comm. Di Monda felt a three-foot distance should be maintained
between the family room and trash enclosure.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE NR
92-2 with the addition of a covenant prohibiting changing a portion
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of .the structure into an apartment and maintenance of. a three-foot
space between the family room and the trash enclosure.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl
A break :was taken from 10:48 p.m. to 10:49 p.m.
SS 91-4 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING
RECONSTRUCTION OF NONCONFORMING BUILDINGS PARTIALLY DESTROYED
(CONTD. FROM APRIL 7, 1992 MEETING).
Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Mr. Schubach discussed the background of this item, noting this
item was a result of the building inspector's request to the City
Attorney for interpretation. Staff has examined the manner of
property value determination versus the method recommended by the
City Attorney; finding it a difficult situation. Staff felt the
method should remain the same or the City Attorney should re-
examine the issue.
Comm. Suard discussed the establishment of property value with Mr.
Schubach, commenting that he would like to see the value raised
from 50% to 75%, to which Chmn. Ketz disagreed, which resulted in
further discussion by the Commission. Comm. Di Monda requested a
comparison of numbers between current buildings and a hypothetical
ones using the 50% and the 75%. Mr. Schubach explained the
dynamics of land value and stated condominiums and apartments
would fall under the same rule.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 10:55 p.m.
Gerald Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd, discussed a six-unit building
that had burned down and was replaced with two units. He explained
the owner had had insurance to cover loss of structure and rents,
so the some of the costs were defrayed.
The Public Hearing was closed by Chmn. Ketz at 10:57 p.rn.
Comm. Di Monda felt there was a potential to take property value
away from the property owners and requested more information as to
how much it would be. Comm. Suard requested the actual percentage
applicable to the law suit relating to the six-unit complex
discussed by Mr. Compton, and how the percentage was calculated.
MOTION by the Commission to CONTINUE SS 91-4 to allow Staff to
obtain the requested information for presentation to the
Commission. No objections, so ordered.
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STAFF ITEMS
a. Planning Department priority list of studies.
Mr. Schubach stated grant monies could be obtained in F.Y. 1992 if
this project were slowed. The Staff is very close to completion,
with the most of the drafts completed. He explained current status
and actions relating to the public right-of-ways. He had.talked to
Community Resources regarding the Pier project and noted the
schedule was not clear,. with plan s to present the project to the
Planning Commission in June or July 1992. The Commission discussed
the project schedule dates, determining with Mr. Schubach that the
schedule was quite misleading.
The February 1992 Joint Meeting was discussed, including the lack
of resultant action.
Comm. Di Monda confirmed the City Council had voted to approve the
Commission's review of off-sale and on-sale of alcohol with respect
to Article 10. Mr. Schubach stated the requests of the Council and
Commission would be addressed at the same time, and should have
been noted in this report.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
b. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for April 28,
1992 City Council Meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated he might possibly attend the meeting. Mr.
Schubach stated the Commission's recommendation would be submitted.
Staff was not opposing the Planning Commission.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
c. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
Chmn. Ketz stated a special study on the residential open space
will be addressed at the next scheduled meeting.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
d. City Council minutes of March 24, 26, 31, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda referenced the previously reviewed 25% driveway
slope which was also a parking area (allowed by the Ordinance) and
the 14% slope with a four-foot blend. He discussed the problems
associated with slopes, type of vehicle to be used as a standard,
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how long should the blend be, to what does it blend, etc. Comm. Di
Monda discussed his conversation with Mr. Grove regarding this
problem with reference to specific projects. Comm. Di Monda noted
that a steeper-that-15% driveway is not precluded, but that it must
be reviewed by the Commission.
The Commission invited Mr. Gerald Compton to speak regarding this
item.
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Gerald Compton expressed his concerns relating to the -Yariance
aspect of this item, stated Variances are difficult or impossible
to obtain, stated that a 25% slope was unreasonable in certain
circumstances and requested that it be an "Exception" or a
"Condition"; not a "Variance". Comm. Di Monda felt that amount of
slope such be highlighted in the interests of safety, ~xpressing
concern relating to very steep driveways with no blends, to which
Comm. Marks agreed.
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to prepare a Resolution of Intent and
present it to the Commission at the next scheduled meeting.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to DIRECT Staff
to prepare a Resolution of Intent and present it for hearing at the
next scheduled Planning Commission meeting. No objections, so
ordered.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to adjourn at
11:19 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning . Commission of·
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of Apri-1 21, 1992 .
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Christine Ketz, Chairman Michael Schubach, Secretary
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON APRIL 7, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
/
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comrns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn.
Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the March 17, 1992
following change:
Page 8, Paragraph 4
" ... remodel ... "
Planning Comrnission meeting, with the -
from . " ... room model ... " to
Resolution P.C. 92-8, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MASTER
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS AMENDED TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN
OVER-HEIGHT WALL AND TO AUTEORIZE THE ADDITION OF PREFABRICATED
METAL CANOPIES OVER THE EXISTING DOUBLE-CAR STACKERS ON THE SITE
AND THE INSTALLATION OF FIVE TRIPLE-CAR STACKERS, TO BE USED IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS LOCATED AT 2775, 2851,
2901 AND 3001 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Resolution P.C. 92-18, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLA~NING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO DENY A VARIANCE TO ALLOW
A 16' IN DEPTH GARAGE FOR ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING WITH A TWO-FOOT
SETBACK RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 17' AND FOR A BALCONY SETBACK OF
2' RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 3' AND TO EXCEED 65% MAXIMUM LOT
COVERAGE AT 620 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 92-20, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN OVER-HEIGHT WALL ALONG THE
EAST PROPERTY LINES OF 2954 AND 2960 LA CARLITA PLACE.
Resolution P.C. 91-21, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, OF INTENT TO INITIATE CON-
SIDERATION OF A TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 10-7 AND 10-8 TO CHANGE
STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR ON-SALE AND OFF-SALE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
ESTABLISHMENTS.
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AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-5/CUP 91-26 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR A HOTEL WITH A PIANO BAR (ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL)
AND A RESTAURANT WITH ON-SALE BEER AND WINE, AND ADOPTION OF A
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 125 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, KING
HARBOR HOTEL (continued from February 18, 1992 Meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue to April 21, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant has not provided plans to Staff
and had requested a cont inuance. Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Merl
expressed their concerns regarding the repeated continuances of .,..
this item, and discussed the requirement for renoticing with Mr.
Schubach. •
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:04 p.m.
Sonia Nichols, 703 1st Street, stated her opposition to a hotel
being built near her property, feeling it would create safety
problems for the residents' children, with additional traffic and
parking problems. She felt the location was not an attractive
location for a hotel and the need for another establishment which
served alcoholic beverages.
Frederick Nichols, 703 1st Street, stated he had previously written
a letter to the City regarding the site, noting unsafe conditions,
unattractive condition and the use of the site by the homeless. He
felt the hotel would create additional parking problems and expose
children to public drunkeness. He requested that the next hearing
on this matter not be held on April 21, 1992.
Ann Lewis, 1st Street, stated the developer had been given enough
continuances and that this one should be the last. She stated she
had not received notification and questioned the number of people
that were aware of this issue. She reiterated her objection to the
continued delay of this application.
Johnnie Bruce, 846 1st Street, opposed the application and agreed
with the previous testimony. She stated she had not been "noticed"
and requested copies of the CalTrans and the environmental impact
reports.
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Public Hearing continued by Chmn. Ketz at 7:12 p.m.
Mr. Schubach commented that notices were sent to proper.ty owners
and tenants within a 300 feet limit and placed in the "Easy
Reader". Chmn. Ketz suggested that Ms. Lewis and Ms. Bruce contact
the Planning Dept. to determine if they should have received
notification.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, to DENY the request for continuance, based
upon the fact that plans were not presented prior to this meeting
as previously requested. No second was obtained and the motion was
withdrawn.
MOTION by Comm. Suard, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE PDP
91-5/CUP 91-26 to an unspecified date, requiring renotification
through the "Easy Reader" and to property owners and tenants as
required.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CUP 92-2 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW LIVE
ENTERTAINMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT, AND ADOPTION OF A
NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 807 21ST STREET, 21ST STREET RESTAURANT
(continued from March 3, 1992 Meeting).
Recommended Action: To continue to April 21, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated supplemental information indicating an interest
in a shared parking plan between the applicant and Sola Motors been
received by Staff. Staff recommended the matter be continued to
allow the applicant to obtain a completed agreement acceptable to
the City and noted the alternative would be to notify the applicant
that approval of live entertainment would be denied.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Messrs. Schubach and Lee the
possibility of stating on the standards of approval that the
applicant must abide by Article 10, rather than listing all of the
standard conditions. It was determined that the conditions change
with time, and only those conditions applicable at the time the
C.U.P. was granted apply.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:26 p.m.
Richard Limbasuta, 807 21st Street, discussed his agreement with
Sola Motor Works to exchange parking spaces. Chmn. Ketz requested
he submit a written form contract executed by both Mess~s. Dispun
and Sola. Mr. Lee explained the contract must be in a form that
can be recorded against both properties. After discussion, Mr.
Lirnbasuta agreed to provide the contract to Staff prior to April
23, 1992 and requested the application be continued to May 5, 1992.
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Kathy May, 2200 Pacific Coast Highway, Ste. 206, adjacent building
owner's representative, expressed concern regarding the parking
plan between Messrs. Dispun and Sola. She discussed previous
parking agreements between the previous owners of the restaurant
and her client Mr. DeMott, and felt the current arrangement would
increase current parking problems. She stated the music's noise
level disturb the tenants of the adjacent building. Comm. Di Monda
discussed with Ms. May the previous parking space negotiations
between her client and the applicant, of which she stated she was
not familiar. Comm. Di Monda then stated he found the te~timony to
be very self serving, but would listen. She reiterated concerns of
Mr. DeMott and requested that any parking agreement be reviewed by
the Commission and that if there were a change in restaurant
ownership, it be mandatory that any parking agreement cannot be
canceled. She requested renoticing if the application were to be
continued.
Comm. Di Monda commented the Commission should not put the
applicant in a position in which he would be forced to negotiate
with Mr. DeMott for parking space, but noted that if Mr. DeMott
were willing to negotiate in good faith and accept the benefits of
such an agreement, that action might be beneficial to both parties.
Ellen Beeranbaum, 832 21st Street, stated that the music was
amplified, the music should only be played inside the building and
not in a canvas tent and that the music continued to be played
after 10:00 p.m. on week ends. She requested the Commission
continue to review the parking situation.
Richard Limbasuta, 807 21st Street, stated the applicant's goal was
to provide a fine restaurant with good dinner music, but the music
would be stopped at 11: 00 p .m. or entirely if the Commission so
decided. He e xplained the bass uses a small amplifier, but the
piano and drum did not. He discussed the possibility of ·obtaining
a parking agreement from both Messrs. DeMott and Sola with the
Commission. The required contract conditions were discussed with
Mr. Limbasuta, with the Commission suggesting to Mr. Limbasuta that
the contract be reviewed by the Planning Dept. and the City
Attorney to assure its adequacy prior to its being signed.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:5~ p.m.
The Commission encouraged the applicant to try to decrease the
level of sound emitting from the canvas room prior to the scheduled
hearing. The Commission requested Staff to review the hours of
entertainment, the noise level and ways to decrease the noise
level, and report its findings at the next scheduled hearing. The
Commission also decided a six-month review, rather than a one-year
review, should be implemented.
MOT~ON by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to CONTINUE CUP
92-2 to the Planning Commission May 19, 1992 meeting to allow the
applicant to obtain the requested parking agreement and Staff to
review the noise level, hours of entertainment and ways to decrease
the noise level.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 92-3/PDP 92-3 CONDITIONAL USE :i?ERM'.IT, VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL V.AP #23258, AND A PRECISE DEVELOPi-!ENT PLAN FOR A 2-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 628 MONTEREY BOULEVARD .••
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit,
Vesting Tentative Parcel Map, and Precise Development Plan.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval, subject to
conditions. He described the project, including height and slope
of property, and compared surrounding structures to the proposed
condominium. He discussed a s imi lar , proposed 35-fee t height
project previously approved by the Commission; noted specific
requirement compliance by this project and stated Staff found the
parking requirement inconvenient for residents and guests. He
commented that if the Commission should require layout alterations,
Staff would recommend a continuance in order to review the revised
plans. Mr. Schubach discussed the narrowness of the lot as it
related to a curb cut, alley entrance and turning radius and stated -
Staff had no objection to using both drive entries in the design
solution. He also stated that Staff recommended the plans be
revised to include a 24" box tree and shrub sizes be increased to 5
gallons. He noted it was unclear as to what was intended in the
courtyard area.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:07 p.:m.
Gerald Compton, 1200 Artesia, project architect, felt the two items
of concern were the driveway slope and exiting from the property
into the alley. He felt the driveway offered good v.isual access,
but offered to reduce the slope by raising the garage slab by
almost one foot if the Commission so desired. Comm. Marks
disagreed, stating vision was obscured directly behind the vehicle
exiting the driveway when backing out. Mr. Compton stated side
vision was adequate. Comm. Di Monda felt that a 25% slope was an
excessive grade. Mr. Compton described the slopes of the alley and
the property and referenced similar projects within the City,
stating he did not feel the slope was a problem and that it was not
an unusual situation. Comm. Di Monda stated the situation being
created was not good architectural practice and other architectural
solutions were available. Mr. Compton stated he disagreed.
Mr. Compton then explained street profiles, existing grade, street
cuts and the manner of establishing the overall height limit for
this project. Comm. Di Monda disagreed with Mr. Compton as to
where the natural grade was, suggesting that natural grade should
be :measured at sidewalk level, since the street was at that grade.
Mr. Compton stated the adjacent properties had measured in
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the same manner as this project, noted that the properties had been
and were being excavated and compared the project's height to the
adjacent property structures. Comm. Marks determined the highest
level of the building was 138. 7 and the sidewalk was at 100,
confirmed by Mr. Compton. Mr. Compton noted the 34' tall building
would be located back 24' plus a 5' setback from the sidewalk.
Comm. Marks felt the method of measurement was unrealistic to which
Mr. Compton stated the height had been established based upon the
Building Department's Code interpretation. Comm. Di Monda noted
the determination was up to Planning, not the Building Dept, and
he felt the measurements had not been taken using the property
measurement locations. Mr. Compton disagreed, stating it was
difficult to work with two dif ferent interpretations for the height
establishment. Comm. Di Monda stated that in 14 months, this was
the first project that height measurements were taken from a point
that no longer existed, suggesting that the Commission discuss this
fact with the Building Department. Mr. Compton disagreed, noting
the natural grade did exist.
Mr. Compton then discussed the problems created by a 17' setback
requirement when a 24' easement is present, stating it was non-
sensical and should be changed. He explained the impact of this
requirement upo n small, narrow lots and the structures, such as the
project with which he was currently working. Comm. Di Monda stated -
developers will do as much as possible tp maximize the property's
value, while the Commission's job was to assure good architectural
practice to maintain and/or increase community and housing value.
He noted the City Council sets policy and the Commission assures
that policy is maintained. Mr. Compton stated that not only was he
an architect, but he was also a resident, and he had never not
adhered to good architectural practice. Comm. Di Monda and Mr.
Compton then discussed the slope of the driveway , with Mr. Compton
offering to decrease the percentage of slope by elevating the
garage slab.
Coram. Marks felt the building was multi-level with a single
stairway, which was very unsafe. He also discussed the lack of
adequate open space adjacent to the entertaining or living area, to
which Mr. Compton disagreed. He explained that open space was
generally put where there was a view, resulting in less bulk, which
was desirable. He then discussed interior visibility and access
with Comm. Marks.
Tom Orley, 5106 Loma Drive, discussed the current neighborhood
zoning relating to 40 houses located in an R-2 area surrounded by
R-3 areas. He spoke regarding what he considered the injustice to
those 4 0 property owners and requested the Commission consider
changing and correctly the stated injustice.
Gerald Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., agreed that an inequity was
applied to the 40 lots.
Public Hearing closed by Chrnn. Ketz at 8:52 p.m.
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Comm. Suard discussed with Mr. Schubach the common interpretation
of height limits when the driveway cuts through the natural grade,
with Mr. Schubach stating it generally was measured using the
natural grade by joining the front and back property lines with a
straight line. Comm. Suard then discussed the Commission's
alternatives and the reasons for those alternatives, as well as
view blockage issues, with Mr. Schubach. Comm. Di Monda noted that
this building would be one of the few within the area with a height
of 35 feet, noting the City Council is giving the Commission mixed
signals. He objected the measuring grade from a point that no
longer existed and the parking area slope. Comm. Suard felt that
potential view of adjacent buildings would be hindered.
Comm. Merl discussed his problem with an ordinance allowing 35'
height while waiting for a decision relating to a 30' height,
stating the Commission should establish a top priority in hearing
and handling applications and decide where changes are necessary
and appropriate within the R-3 zone. He stated his problem with
the extreme driveway slope and what appeared to be a 38' building.
He stated his preference for a redesign of the plan. Upon Mr.
Compton's agreement to submit a revised design, he was requested to
submit that design to the Planning Department by April 27, 1992.
A break was taken from 9:03 until 9:10 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Com.~. Di Monda, to CONTINUE CUP
92-3 to the Planning Commission May 5, 1992 meeting to allow the
applicant to submit a revised plan and address the Commission's
stated concerns, which includes (among others) building height and
point of measurement and slope of the driveway.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coll'.:IIts. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, S ·;iard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 92-4/PDP 92-4 CONDITIO*A.L USE PER..lliIT, VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP #23286, A..'l'D PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 3-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 1901 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit,
Vesting Tentative Parcel Map, and Precise Development Plan.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval subject to
Conditions and noted the alternative to continue the request. He
described the proposed project including the appearance, parking
requirements, open space, landscaping, building height within the
35' limit, heig·h t of surrounding buildings and compliance to
Planning and Zoning requirements. He stated the applicant proposed
an averaging method to establish side-yard setbacks rather than
using a minimum setback requirement. Mr. Schubach stated the
averaging method be used at the Commission's discretion. He
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commented the Commission may wish to impose the building be low at
the front of the lot and the full 35' height towards the rear of
the lot. He stated the preliminary plans did not include finished
floor elevations for Staff verification and noted the "architec-
tural projections" were questionable legal encroachments, requiring
determination by the Commission if the encroachments into the yard
areas are allowable. Staff recommended a condition that perimeter
walls or fences be included on revisions .for Planning Dept. review.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:21 p.m.
Gerald Compton, 1200 Artesia, project architect, using the
drawings, explained the building design elements and projections
within the side yard to establish interest. He discussed possible
alternatives to the front projections with Staff and the
Commission. He stated the actual building height was below the 35'
height limit and did not create a view blockage problem to the
structures across the street. He expressed his discomfort that the
Commission would review projects based upon a possible 30' height
limit, which created design problems for the architect who didn't
know whether to design to 30' or 35' heights. Mr. Compton stated
information had been obtained from CalTrans.
Eric Richardson, 4741 Darien, stated his neighbors were not
concerned about the height limit.
Diana Vidal, 930 1st Street, discussed the i mpact upon her property
if the building were built to a 30' height a nd then the property in
back of her were allowed to build to a 35' height. She felt she
should be allowed to build as high as is currently allowed.
Ni~ette McCiustion, 4741 Darien, discussed previous zone changes,
change from coillJ.~ercial to residential zoning and the devaluation of
her property. She stated if she were required to build to only
30', the building would be a cracker box. She felt the Commission
was hurting the property owne::-s and requested the property owners'
feelings be considered. She stated she was looking to enhance the
property and to live there.
Gerald Compton, 1200 Artesia, project architect, stated the
property had been owned by the same family for a long time. The
owners wished to live in two units and sell the third.
Brian Vidal, 930 1st Street, believed the residents across the
street from his property would retain thei r views. He stated the
building was old and unattractive, which they proposed to change.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:38 p.m.
Co mi.u . Di Monda c ommented upon the 14-degree driveway, requesting a
redesign to obtain a gentler slope and enlargement of some of the
bedrooms which were extre.mely s.mall. He read the building code
denoting the room size allowances into the record. He discussed
future development of the hospital site and the adjacent areas,
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which would impact the current project, and reiterated his wish to
maintain fairness in decisions pertaining to all Hermosa Beach
construction projects.
Comm. Merl stated his concerns regarding the setting of a
precedent. Mr. Schubach referenced a similar project that had been
previously approved by the Commission. He noted this project might
be significantly impacted by CalTrans' decision and commented upon
Staff's concerns relating granting of permits at this time. Mr.
Schubach discussed the length of time necessary to receive
CalTrans' decisions.
Comm. Suard stated the building was quite bulky, which could be
reduced by lowering the height. Chmn. Ketz. also expressed her
concerns regarding the building height, but felt that until changes
are made, the Commission should continue to approve the 35' height
limit.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to CONTINUE CON
92-4/PDP 92-4, DIRECT the applicant to revise the plans based upon
the comments made and noted by the Commission during this hearing
and the Commission will REVIEW those changes prior to a final
decision.
This motion was pulled at the applicants' request.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to DENY CON
92-4/PDP 92-4 and to incorporate in this denial all the comments
made relating to the project, to include slope of driveway, room
size, height and setback. If this item is appealed to the City
Council, it may then decide what the issues important to the City
are.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, and Suard
Comm. Merl, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
CON 91-9/PARK 91-7 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PARKING PLAN
FOR A MANUFACTURING WAREHOUSE BUILDING, AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIR-
ONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 601 CYPRESS AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To approve subject Precise Development Plan
and Parking Plan, and adopt the Negat ive Declaration.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval subject to
conditions and noted possible alternative actions. He described
the building, parking area and requirements, applicqnt's use
intent, current business operation including warehousing,
handicapped parking provision, and proposed loading spaces. He
stated Staff foresaw no problem with the warehousing use as a
secondary use. Staff recommended a condition to establish a
maximum manufacturing area and to prohibit conversion of warehouse
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space, with the Planning Director's approve of any use that would
occupy the other two suites. He stated landscaping materials
should be more clearly identified. Staff did recognize flaws in
the proposed plan due to lot size and building footprint and stated
concern regarding parking ratio versus structure square footage.
Mr. Schubach stated the project represented a positive improvement
to the site and street and abandonment and capping of the idle.oil
well, and possibly lead to the development of the adjacent property
(as discussed in the supplemental information from the City
Attorney provided to the Commission).
-Comm. Di Monda discussed the parking requirement with Mr. Schubach,
determining the project was lacking five of the required spaces.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 10:05 p.m.
Larry Lubow, 644 Cypress, applicant, stated he was an artist, sole
owner of the business, rarely employed other people and used 90% of
the building for warehousing. He stated his awareness as to the
importance of adequate parking provision. He stated realistically
only 4 to 5 spaces will be used, he would never exceed the 13 space
provision and was willing to sign a covenant to that fact. He
discussed the projected use of the building, stated he planned to
rent half of the building and discussed his efforts to get the oil
well capped and obtain the required soil samples. He distributed
his portfolio for review by the Commission. He confirmed his .,.
understanding of his rental limitations to Comm. Marks. He felt
the parking requirement should be based upon the number of
employees, not the building space. Chmn. Ketz discussed the
difficulties in administration associated with that suggestion.
Mr. Lubow discussed his problems with the building and the uncapped
well, while the City has allowed development of the yard by
McPherson Co. Mr. Lee noted this was a different issue. He stated
the City would not be allowing McPherson Co. to be develop an oil
well within 100 feet of a structure and explained the provisions of
that agreement.
Tom Morley, Loma Drive, felt Mr. Lubow's application ·would result
in land-use improvement. He questioned C.U.P. Item No. 2, stating
it was not "permanent" enough and requested that it be stated the
well had been permanently abandoned. He discussed his concerns
relating to Staff's discretionary abilities and requested that
statements should be clear as to what is allowable within a
particular zone. Mr. Orley requested and received a copy of the
City Attorney's letter that was previously referenced.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 10:20 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz discussed the loading space and blocking of handicapped
parking space with Mr. Schubach, who expressed concern regarding
the use of future tenants and noted the handicapped parking was
adequate. Chmn. Ketz felt a problem existed with only 13 parking
spaces, of which six were compact parking spaces. She also was
concerned regarding the pumber of spaces in relationship to new
use.
Comm. Di Monda stated the applicant had two compact spaces over the
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allowance, while being five spaces short. He noted this issue was
a discretionary matter as to the strictness of interpretation. He
suggested the applicant be conditioned to encourage development and
when dealing with manufacturing, the type of manufacturing should
be reviewed. -
Comm. Suard commented upon the supposed problem between the City
and Stinnetts relating to the well. Mr. Lee stated this was a
separate issue relating to this application only because of the
Fire Code because the Stinnetts contend the well is operating. He
stated Staff has not asked the Commission to consider abandonment
of the well in any way other than that there is a Fire Code
prohibition against develcpment as long as the well is in an
operating condition.
Comm. Merl discussed buildi:-.g design to allow for future parking
with Comms. Di Monda and Marks deciding the second level would be
best for future parking. The Commiss i on d iscu ssed the possible
future site use or change in current usage impact on parking
requirements. Mr. Lee noted if the building is built for M-1
purposes, the subsequent user would not have to return to the
Commission for approval of any other land use entitlements. If the
Commissioner were to define restrictions on current use, that would
serve as a future restriction of future modification of usage.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to APPROVE PDP
91-9/PARK 91-7 subject to Staff's and City Attorney's recommend-
ations as to the correct handing of tapping of the well, with a
condition that the use of the building is to be for "artist studio,
ceramic studio" and all facilities and work areas related to that
use; any change in the product being manufactured would require the
applicant or new les se.e to present to the Planning Commission an
application for approval. This use restriction is to be recorded
with the property title.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm.s. Di Monda, Marks, and Merl
Comm. Suard, Ch~m. Ketz.
No:.:e
I~one
Mr. Lubow was informed he could contact Staff in order to obtain
the implications of the covenant, covenant language, leasing of
tenant space options and his ability to appeal the CoI(IIrtission' s
decision.
SS 86-12 TEXT 11MENDMEK'T TO ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING ADULT
USES AND ADOP:('ION Oi<.. Ari '17~NVI~ONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION
(continued from March 3, 1992 Meeting.)
Recommended Action: To review additional data requested and direct
Staff to set for public hearing.
MOTION by the Commission to CO JTINUE this item to the Commission's
meeting of April 21, 1992. No objections, so ordered.
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SS 91-4 SPECIAL STUDY AND TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING RECON-
STRUCTION OF NONCONFORMING BUILDINGS PARTIALLY DESTROYED.
Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
MOTION by the Commission to CONTINUE this item. No objections, so
ordered.
STAFF ITEMS
a. Planning Department activity report of February 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
b. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for April 14,
1992 City Council meeting.
RECEIVE AND FILE
c. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
Comm. Di Monda asked if the study of R-3 and RP zones would
affect areas which are to be built to R-3 zone standards, which
Mr. Schubach stated would not. Comm. Di Monda referenced the
May 5, 1992 meeting and stated the definition of "grade" should
be discussed and decided upon.
d. City Council minutes of February 25 and March 10, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to present a list of studies to be
placed on future agendas to the Commission in order to establish
prioritization. The list is to include who initiated.the item and
when the item was initiated.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
10:58 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of April 7, 1992.
~d?i?W~
Michael Schubach, Secretary
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R -ehristiRe Ke-t.-o ,✓chairman
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Date
12 P.C.Minutes 4/7/92
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON FEBRUARY 18, 1992, AT 7 :00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order. at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Merl.
ROLL CALL
I
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the February 4, 1992 Planning Commission meeting, with
the following changes:
SECTION: STAFF ITEMS (c) to be redone in its entirety to
include a complete, adequate outline of all discussion by the
Commission, including quoted memorandum information, all
comments, cited Sign Ordinance Sections regarding changes
relating to this particular issue, citing definitions
established within the Ordinance to include materials that
temporary and permanent signs are made from.
Resolution P.C. 91-73, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO ALLOW A CHILDREN'S DAY CARE CENTER FOR THIRTEEN OR MORE
CHILDREN AND AN OVER-HEIGHT FENCE AT 739 LONGFELLOW. AVENUE, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION. •
;Resolution P.C. 92-5, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A COND!TIONAL USE
PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #20554 AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 2902 HERMOSA AVENUE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Robert Udovich, 1559 Pacific Coast Highway, distributed to the
Commission copies of a letter from Round-Table Pizza to Mr.
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Schubach, explained the letter content, referenced a parking survey
previously conducted and other correspondence, and discussed the
reasons for his petition for Mr. Schubach's resignation or
termination.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-5 • --PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 64-ROOM HOTEL AND
3,336 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT, AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW
ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 125 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY, KING HARBOR HOTEL (continued from November 19 r
December 3, 1991, and January 7, 1992 meetings).
Recommended Action: To continue to March 17, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated this application had been continued several
times due to a previous revisions to comply with Commission
requests. A · continuan ce is requested due to additional details
currently requiri ng completion. Mr. Schubach stated he was very
conf i dent t his application would be available at that meeting. He
stated this item would be renoticed if the Commission wished.
Commissioners Di Monda and Merl discussed the reasons for the
previous continuances.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:10 p.m.
Ann Lewis, 834 First Street, requested that public notices be again
issued.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:11 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to CONTINUE the
application to the meeting of April 7, 1992, to include direction
to Staff that renotification be performed. •
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
PDP 91-10 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW A DUPLEX AT 122
FIRST STREET (continued from January 7, 1992 meeting).
Recommended Action: To continued to March 3, 1992 meeting for
applicant to submit revised plans.
Mr. Schubach stated due to the fact that problems still exist
within the revised plan, requiring additional corrections, the
applicant requested a continuance,. He stated Staff has seen the
plans prior to this meeting.
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Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:12 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this application.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:12 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to CONTINUE the
application to the meeting of March 3, 1992.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 92-2/PDP 92-2 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, VESTING TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP :#21667, AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 1051 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit,
Vesting Tentative Parcel Map and Precise Development Plan.
Mr. Schubach stated the plan generally meets all Code requirements.
The revised plans would be examined by Staff to assure requirements
compliance. Commissioner Di Monda noted the absence of a require-
ment for 24" box tree landscaping and requested the Condition be
added.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:14 p.m.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., project architect, s·tated the
applicant had reviewed and agreed to the Conditions. Comm. Marks
and Mr. Compton discussed the access/egress on the one staircase in
the two-story bu ilding, which included subterranean and mezzanine
levels. Comm. Marks felt this was an unsafe condition. Mr.
Compton stated no living area was at the Basement level, explained
the 17' set back requirements versus available living space and
building square footage, and that open space decks were outside the
mezzanine level. Comms. Marks and Di Monda discussed the Commis-
sions previously stated wish to maximize deck space adjacent to
main living areas versus the submitted plan with Mr. Compton.
Coirun. Di Monda discussed the possibility that similar future
pro j ects could include a landscaped, usable rear yard area, to
which Mr. Compton replied this had been done in the past and will
be in the future. Comm. Marks and Mr. Compton discussed the
projected sales price of the units.
David Walfram, 1036 Monterey, discussed the difficulty of the
on-street parking on Monterey, commenting that new construction
eliminated more street parking, asking if parking entrances could
be on Bay View instead of Monterey. Chmn. Ketz noted that this
particular application would provide addition of-street parking and
that the grade difference made entrance from Bay View impossible.
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Ian Smith, 669 4th Street, asked if the Commission was concerned
regarding the residents of the current building which is being
replaced with the new project. He comm ented that one resident had
lived there 17 years and that the building was "very we.11 kept".
He also mentioned the lack of area on-street parking.
Loren Davis, Manager, 1100 Monterey Blvd., stated the new buildings
will block the views, there is currently a parking problem and more
on-street parking is being taken away. During the past two years,
buildings ;are allowed to be too large.
Jerry Compton rebutted by stating past developments had been built
with under-utilization of parking requirements, resulting in the
current parking problems. He felt every property owner should be
allowed to have a curb cut, noting the Code now requires a lot of
off-street parking.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:35 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda stated that until the City Council makes a decision
regarding views and building heights, the Commission does not feel
current applications should not be addressed and the Commission
does not have a legal right to prohibit property owners from using
their property as long as the requirements are met.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE the
application with a change in the Condition Use Permit, Paragraph 4,
to include 24" box trees as part of the landscaping plan.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Corruns. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Corrun. Marks
None
None
CUP 92-1 MASTER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE TWO AUTO
REPAIR BUSINESSES AT 323 AND 325 ARDMORE AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To approve said Master Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Schubach stated this was an amortized C.U.P. Staff is
attempting to impose some regulations on types of business which
may cause problems. This business is located in a residential area
but has experienced no problems within the neighborhood. The
applicant also works on some small racing cars, his own and others,
behind closed doors. Mr. Lee noted this business is within the
context of "grandfathered" use~ if the business changed or closed
for a 90-day period, it would lose its-legal nonconforming status.
Mr. Schubach noted the Commission would only be approving auto
repair, not allowing an enlargement of usage.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:49 p.m.
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Robert Catalano, applicant, stated he had reviewed and agreed with
the Conditions. He referenced a petition signed by his neighbors
requesting driveway striping not be required. He discussed the
types of fire-fighting equipment he had with Comm. Marks. He
stated his building nee~ed a new roof.
Jerry Compton, architect, 1200 Artesia Blvd., stated the applicant
wished to blend in with and enhance the adjacent residential
properties, while being across the street from manufacturing
buildings,, He commented the applicant wished to cut costs and
install the roof at the same time the other required Conditions
were being completed, noting the roof rafters would only bear the
roof, itself. Mr. Compton wished the Commission to .determine
whether the new roof would be a structural modification or not. He
requested a continuation if the Commission was going to request an
elevation and to relieve the applicant of additional public
hearings and associated costs.
Mike Dimiko, 559 3rd Street, stated the applicant had been an
outstanding business resident with extreme concern regarding his
neighbors. He asked for clarification of Condition #9 regarding
customer drop off and pick up. The Commission agreed this
Condition needed clarification. He also asked that striping not be
required.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:06 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz determined striping is a normal requirement, but can be
waived. Comm. Di Monda determined that only 11 parking spaces were
required, suggested the stripes not be required but landscaping be
required, if the change is acceptable to the owner. He stated that
the Commission does not have a legal right to prohibit property
owners from using their property as long as the requirements are
met. Mr. Schubach stated the Commission, if it didn't believe that
changing the roof style was in violation of the nonconforming
section of the Code, the Commission could request an interpretation
from Staff, make a policy statement confirmed by the City Council
and issue a building permit. The roof change could not be approved
with the C.U.P., unless unusual grounds were evident or it was
determined to not be a modification. Mr. Schubach commented that
if an additional fee is required, it would be for a Variance,
requiring completion of the Variance procedures. Mr. Lee confirmed
that Mr. Schubach suggested to the Commission that a C.U.P. could
be granted with Conditions which would have no effect upon the roof
line; Mr. Catalano could return for a Code interpretation regarding
the roof-line change by requesting same from the Planning
Department. It a Variance for non-conforming building was
required, procedure must be followed, including fee payment. Chmn.
Ketz confirmed interpretation could be made by the Commission at
the continuance date time.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to APPROVE the
C.U.P. application, with the following changes: The property is
5 P.C.Minutes 2/18/92
located in Rl Zone, single-family residential, (A) change "to
authorize" to "to regulate the prior legal existing use", Item 9
change to read, "Customer pick up and drop off will occur between
the Monday through Saturday authorized hours of operation,
auto-body repair and painting is prohibited and landscaping will be
required in lieu of parking area striping.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT: j
Conuns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Chmn. Ketz stated the question regarding the roof would have to be
presented to the Staff with a request for interpretation by the
Commission.
PARK 92-1 PARKING PLAN TO ALLOW DELIVERY SERVICE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH ROUND TABLE PIZZA IN VONS MARKET AT 715 PIER
AVENUE, PLAZA HERMOSA.
Recommended Action: To approve said Parking Plan.
Mr. Schubach presented project history, noting the delivery issue
was not approved. When, due to deliveries, a restaurant inter-
pretation was made, a parking plan was required, of which
requirements are not enforced by the Planning Department. He
discussed upper and lower level parking, employee use of customer
parking spaces, parking lot usage change, the more intense use
which required a revised parking plan, the applicant's request for
approval of its revised parking plan, relief from strict parking
requirement application as not unusual for businesses of this size,
parking problems created by patrons of Hermosa Pavilion. Staff
recommended Conditions that deliveries by completed from behind
Vons or in the lower level, to which the applicant is not totally
responsive, and employees park in the lower level with extended
time parking allowance. Staff believes adequate space is available
to support parking and unloading in the area behind CVS Drugstore
and Aaron Brothers Art Mart.
Comm. Di Monda asked Mr. Lee about the validity of unsigned
permits, to which Mr. Lee responded the Minutes would reflect the
actions of the Commission and/or City Council which constituted
formal action by the City.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:19 p.m.
Peter Kugler, Director, Design & Construction Services, Round Table
Pizza, 4742 Segregate Ave, Pleasanton, discussed the Staff report,
stating they could abide by the Conditions, but requested relief
from the after-8:00 p.m. parking requirement, preferring to use the
6 P.C.Minutes 2/18/92
underground parking garage for security reasons. He stated a total
of four vehicles are being used for delivery and food deliveries
arriving once weekly.
Peter Harris, 1100 Monterey Blvd., discussed the perpetual parking
problems in the lot and the misuse of compact parking spaces, using
his own experiences as illustration. He stated parking was a
problem until after 10:00 p.m.
June Williams, 2065 Manhattan Ave., discussed her observations of
Vons parking lot during the last several weeks, including many cars
making deliveries, trucks parked in the red no-parking zone due to
lack of parking. She felt cars and trucks should park behind the
store.
Robert Udovich,
parking problems
discussions with
judgment.
1559 Pacific Coast Highway, again discussed the
within the parking lot area and his previous
Staff, requesting the Commission make' its own
Diane Udovich, 1559 Pacific Coast Highway, asked that no more
compact spaces be allowed in the parking lot area.
Murna Marshall, 360 33rd Place, stated the Pavilion blocked off its
parking structure, resulting in it customers parking at the "Vons"
parking lot. She discussed locked access of parking structure,
robberies and the lack of safety within these structures. The
access from the lower parking area is an open area next to Aaron
Brothers.
Robert Udovich, 1559 Pacific Coast Highway, discussed the costs to
his business by allowing Round Pizza to operate and the impact upon
small business owners.
Jim Wesner, 2715 Eloesty, hoped the previous parking plan to
convert many parking spaces to compact would not be adopted, since
compact spaces are difficult to enter and exit.
Wilma Burt, 1152 7th Street, did not want more compact parking
spaces in the parking lots.
Richard Lucy, 2916 Tennyson Place, stated a parking problem exists
because people are reluctant to park at Pavilion parking structure.
He felt compact parking spaces do not work, delivery trucks are
using parking spaces, and the "parking problem" was really a
reluctance to walk any distance.
Peter Kugler, Director, Design & Construction Services, Round Table
Pizza, 4742 Segregate Ave, Pleasanton, felt the majority of the
customers were already Vons customers. He felt the existing
parking stalls were being under utilized, stating they would be
willing to move the delivery vehicles to the lower levels, and
requested leniency regarding hours. Comm. Di Monda discussed with
Mr. Kugler the fact that Round Table Pizza was a tenant of Vons.
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Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at-8:42 p.m.
Comm. Merl commented upon the major parking problem at Vons parking
lot, especially on week ends. He expressed concern over the lack
of security and delivery trucks using convenient parking spaces.
Comm. Di Monda agreed with Comm. Merl. He felt that the City
should not enforce parking problems at Vons and Pavilion; but,
rather, they should work out their own problems. He commented upon
Vons' att~tude in not sending a representative to the meeting and
expressed concern they might try to lease additional business usage
within its property, and the Vons adverse effect on other
businesses. He stated Proposed parking behind Aaron Bros. is
unacceptable. He stated Vons is currently violating the C.U.P. and
based upon the intensified use, adverse effect on businesses, etc.
he did not support this issue. Comm. Suard agreed with both CoIDins.
Merl and Di Monda, adding Vons is acting as an inappropriate
landlord and expressed his concern regarding the current parking
problems. He asked Staff to view the parking area during peak
times. Mr. Schubach stated Staff believed Pavilions is causing the
~arking problems. Comm. Marks suggested Vons develop solutions to
its problems and then meet with Staff. Chmn. Ketz .felt the
Pavilion 2-hour parking should be enforced.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to DENY the
Parking Plan and to DIRECT Staff to do whatever is within Staff's
power to ensure that Round Table Pizza and Vons be brought into
conformance with the existing Parking Plan.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Schubach stated it was his understanding if the City Council
upholds this decision, Round Table would be noticed and possible
renoticed that the parking plan had been denied, and if violations
occur, fines will be levied and the business possibly closed.
A break was taken from 8:55 until 9:05 p.m.
CUP 92-3 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ADMENDMENT TO ALLOW FIVE NEW
TRIPLE-HIGH CAR STACKER$, AND TO AMEND CERTAIN CONDITIONS AT 2775,
2851, 2901 AND 3001 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, VASEK POLAK AUTO
DEALERSHIPS.
Recommended Action:
amendment.
To approve said Conditional Use Permit
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stated Staff recommended
approval and presented an alternative to denial of allowing the
applicant to present another location plan. He discussed and
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described the proposed stackers and proposed metal canopies over
existing stackers, visibility to residents and highway, and
proposed locations. He stated the applicant had resolved most
residents' problems at this time, and defined specific problem
areas and the solutions. He noted previous Minutes discussed
two-level stackers. Staff recommends sufficient landscaping on
adjacent residents' property be provided to obscure direct view of
the stackers, to be resolved between residents and applicant.
Staff also recommended late-night delivery limitations, and that no
changes nqt shown on the approved plans may be made. He stated if
the Resolution were not adopted, Staff had no objection to the
canopies being approved as a minor modification. Mr. Schubach then
ex1;>lained an adjacent neighbor's plan for fencing and discussed
this plan with the Commission.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:16 p.m.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., representing Mr. Polak, who was
under the impression a building permit was in place which covered
the stackers. Based upon that impression, triple stackers were
ordered at the same time as the two stackers were ordered. This is
at issue. He stated and detailed the Conditions that had been met
except for striping and pavement signing, which will be completed
by February 22, 1992. He presented a C. U. P. copy signed by all
employees to the Commission. The triple-car stackers mitigation
could be through fencing, which Mr. Compton proposed and described,
stating the applicant was willing to install the fence and a fashea
as a compromise. He pointed out the landscaping would be on
someone's property, the applicant could provide the greenery. He
stated the canopies were important to protect the applicant's
investment. He discussed additional future stacker locations,
plans for fencing, planting areas and the retaining wall,
requesting the Commission's opinion. After discussion with Mr.
Compton, Comm. Marks asked for a cross-section drawing for
clarification, expressing concerns for the residents' views. Comm.
Di Monda asked if further requests for higher stacker units would
be received in the future, to which Mr. Compton -responded he
believed three-level were the tallest manufactured. Comm. Di Monda
and Mr. Compton discussed possible stackers locations. Comm. Suard
confirmed the canopies were made of rust-resistant material. Mr.
Compton discussed with Comm. Di Monda and explained the need for,
and manner of, car movement on the property and stackers, including
fire lane blockage and car rotation. Mr. Carson explained that the
movement of cars resulted in damage and expense to the applicant.
Arlene Howl, 2966 La Carlita Place, thanked the Planning Department
for its effort. She suggested compromise; noting her two-year
research in property separation from the dealership. She wishes to
under-ground her wires to build a separation screen, noting she
needed an easement from the dealership. She wishes to work on the
separation between her property and the dealership, noting the
noise and traffic problems which currently exist. She stated she
wished to take a proactive stance.
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Chris Howl, 2966 La Carlita Place, thanked the Planning Department
and the Commission, explained his previous correspondence and noted
his lack of knowledge relating to the previous ordering of triple-
stackers. He felt a permanent visual screen would be more workable
than landscaping and requested he have input in the installation of
the screen.
Richard Sullivan, 2954 La Carlita Place, noted the stackers are
fairly noisy, making loud banging noises when the cars are moved.
He stated >he wished to build, at his expense, a wall and requested
the hours of stacker operation be limited, excluding week ends.
Derek Kleasak, 744 Longfellow, noted 4 of 29 C.U.P. Conditions he
felt were in noncompliance: 1) Item 23, exterior lights which are
very bright and should be turned off in the evening hours, 2) Land-
scaping, he wants landscaping between his property and the dealer-
ship, 6) Adequate on-site parking, employees are parking on Long-
fellow, and 12) Noise and Car Alarms, the alarms go off frequently.
He requested these items be addressed.
Arlene Howl, 2966 La Carlita Place, asked how
provisions were determined. Mr. Schubach stated
Building Department decision and determination.
wind
that
design
was an
Richard Lucy, 2916 Tennyson Place, felt this was an opportunity to
review previous C.U.P. Conditions, and stated his complaints
relating to employee parking and street travel. He stated
conditions had improved on 30th Street, but increased in the
surrounding area. He stated the cars are being test driven on
residential street.
J.C. Agagianian, Jr., 2802 Tennyson Place, discussed the community
involvement of the dealership and the actions taken to improve
neighborhood conditions. He urged mutual efforts to resolve the
problems, address the residents' problems and find solutions.
Arlene Howl, 2966 La Carlita Place, agreed that Mr. Polak had done
many fine things, stated she was not talking about the person, but
rather the dealership.
Jerry Compton, 1200 Artesia Blvd., stated the undergrou.nd wiring
was agreeable with Mr. Polak, he has not seen an easement request,
the neighbors should contact the dealership if car loading or
resident street usage is occurring and bothersome and the lights
could be adjusted. He stated the dealership is not opened until
11:00 a.m. on Sunday, and vehicles will not be moved until 10:00
a.m. or after 3:00 p.m. on Saturdays, if these times were approved.
The applicant was not aware of employees parking on Longfellow.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:16 p.m.
Comm. Marks determined the alley had been vacated to Mr. Polak
three or four years ago with Conditions, with Mr. Polak owning the
adjacent land strip.
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Chmn. Ketz confirmed the,triple-stackers were proposed to be placed
in a previously defined double-stacker area. Co~. Suard
determined the canopies could not be additionally soundproofed.
Comm. Di Monda reiterated the only items being considered were the
five triple-high car stackers and the canopies, to alleviate any
misunderstanding. He suggested the neighbors be contacted to reach
an agreement for landscaping, while stating that while recognizing
Mr. Polak's contributions to the City, technology must be reined
in, with perhaps a building being built to house the cars. Chmn.
Ketz disc1Jssed the height of a fence able to screen the neighbors
with Mr. Schubach, requesting Staff to review the issue with Mr.
Polak and the residents. When a solution is reached to the
neighbo rs ' satisfaction, then Staff was directed to present that to
the Commission. The Commiss i on directed the Planning Director to
review landscaping requirements and present to the Commission,
landscape and fencing plans, as well as hours of operation of
stackers.
Mr. Lee suggested the matter be continued to allow the applicant to
meet with the neighbors, provide alternative plans, meet with Staff
and present to the Commission for final approval.
A MOTION was made by Chmm. Ketz to APPROVE the request on the
Condition that it is screened from the adjacent neighbors and it is
just for the five car stackers and the canopy covers, some type of
landscaping screening, and that the hours of operation for the
stackers will be from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on week days, 10:00
a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on Saturdays, and 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on
Sundays.
MOTION by Chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Merl, to CONTINUED CUP 92-3
to March 17, 1992 at which time the applicant is to have submitted
a screening plan and hours of operation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
FIRST QUARTER GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS.
Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Mr. Schubach stated the City Council-directed consider a General
Plan Amendment to the Circulation Element for a bike way extension
from 24th Street to the City limits and relocation in front of the
dwelling units, which would result in Grant inclusion for The Stand
repair. Comm. Merl requested the Commission be given the
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opportunity to review the improvement plan , stating it was the most
important Public Works improvement. Comm . Merl also requested the
Commission be given the opportunity to review the Capital
Improvements proposal for the new pier entrance and noted no
relationship between the two projects had been identified.
Chmn. Ketz discussed with Mr. Schubach and determined this plan
amendment will be forwarded to Environmental Review Committee
during March 1992, Planning Commission during April 1992 ,· and City
Council d~ring May 1992. Comm. Suard suggested a questionnaire and
adequate notice be sent. Mr. Schubach stated the General Plan will
be noticed in the newspaper as standard procedure, allowing the
schedule to be followed.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to DIRECT Staff
to conduct the environmental assessment and schedule for public
hearing an amendment to the Circulation Element regarding the route
of the Strand bike path.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Chmn. Ketz
None
Suard
None
a. Consideration of initiating a moratorium on R-3 lots in
locations adjacent to R-2 & R-1 zones, and study of lowering
height.
Mr. Schubach stated this item was requested by the Commission
regarding restricting maximum development of R-3 lots that may
obstruct R-1 and R-2 zoned lots. He stated the moratorium had
expired, with the City Council opting to make no changes to the
Zoning Ordinance in terms of height. The proposed moratorium would
effect three areas: ( 1) area bordered by Manhattan Blvd. on the
east and Hermosa Blvd. on the west, (2) area bordered by Monterey
Blvd. to the beach, and ( 3) area east of Pacific Coast Highway
along Fifth Street east of the commercial area. He noted the
Housing Improyement Program was turned down by the City Council.
Chmn. Ketz and Mr. Schubach discussed the fact that during the
moratorium some buildings had a 25-feet height limit. Comm. Di
Monda thought the City Council had wanted to deal with the issue
one at a time and felt HIP was too broad. He preferred the
Commission being able to deal with view blockage by establishing a
moratorium on all construction over 30 feet in all areas. He
suggested R-3 height could then be lo~ered throughout except where
blocked by taller R-3 zone buildings. Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Di
Monda agreed this option should be reviewed. Comm. Merl expressed
reservations regarding moratoriums, preferring the study be dealt
with. Comm. Di Monda addressed Comm. Merl's concerns and stated
the moratorium would only be for buildings over 30 feet, and would
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prevent rushed, incomplete plans being presented. Comm. Marks
agreed with Comm. Di Monda's statements. Comm. Merl reiterated his
concerns relating to moratoriums. Comm. Suard felt that 25 feet
heights in the R-1 zones was not adequate to build two story and
garage/basement area buildings, suggesting all residential R-1 and
R-2 zone buildings be allowed to reach the 30 feet height level.
Comm. Di Monda felt this would create additional view blockage.
Chmn. Ketz noted this would be a different issue. Mr. Lee
suggested a grandfather provision be considered, explaining the
various a~pociated considerations.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to RECOMMEND to
the City Council a moratorium for construction over 30 feet
throughout the City until the Planning Commission can aqdress the
view blockage issues throughout the R-3 zones, especially those
that abuts R-2 and R-1 zones; all approved projects prior to this
agenda item would fall under a grandfather provision.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Merl
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
b. Letter from La Paz Restaurant at 1095 Aviation Boulevard
regarding Parking Plan.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff received a letter stating the Church of
Christ cannot offer the parking to the La Paz Restaurant. The
applicant is not able to meet the C.U.P. Condition, other parking
did not seem feasible, but the Commission may amend the condition,
if it so wished. Mr. Lee noted Staff suggested that the Commission
provide other direction as to how applicant might meet the required
condition, not necessary to waive the condition. Chmn. Ketz stated
the applicant must been the requirements of the C.U.P. Comm. Merl
felt the Commission had previously agreed the need for the parking
spaces was marginal, which would be a variance. Comm. Di Monda did
not feel the clientele would be driving to the restaurant, noting
that restaurants on Pier Avenue cannot furnish parking. Mr.
Schubach noted the applicant's options would be discussed with him.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
c. Memorandum regarding status of Strand wall project and review
of the future Capital Improvement Programs by the Planning
Commission.
Chmn. Ketz requested the Commission be given the opportunity to
review this issue. Comm. Merl felt it was a major project, being
crucial the Commission review it and have input. He felt the pier
entrance should be integrated with this issue. Mr. Schubach stated
Staff would assure presentation to the Commission.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
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d. Memorandum regarding Greenbelt Parking Lot and Signs on Hotel
Hermosa.
Mr. Schubach stated, at the Commission's direction, memos had been
submitted to the City . Manager regarding resolving the Greenbelt
Parking issue progress, with copies sent to Public Works
Department. The City Manager responded the project is just one
month behind schedule. Comm. Di Monda stated his understanding is
that Parks and Recreation Department will probably not receive this
item unti} the end of March, the Commission would not receive it
until the end of April, 1992, noting that "everyone had dropped the
ball" and that he was tired of promises which are not fulfilled.
He felt this lack of action was an insult to the entire community.
Comm. Marks agreed, and then asked the status of the Ocean Drive
project. Mr. Schubach explained the Ocean Drive issue had been
presented to the City Council at the February 11, 1992, resulting
in much debate, the City Manager did receive a parking space study,
with a study being continued. Mr. Schubach was DIRECTED to contact
Mr. Glickman to obtain a status report. Comm. Ketz stated he did
not understand why the project was being delayed.
MOTION b¥ Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to DIRECT Staff
to immediately send a memorandum to the City Manager, copying the
entire City Council, reminding the City Manager that he attended
the Joint Meeting, took notes, Mr. Glickman was in attendance, the
Commission was to receive this project in February 1992, the Parks
and Recreation Department schedule and request that someone
physically give the drawings (which are sitting in Public Works
Department) to Parks and Recreations Department prior to its next
meeting (the end of February 1992), noting the City Council will
make the decision as to the lot size.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
e. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for February
15, 1992 City Council meeting.,
Chmn. Ketz stated this was for the Text Amendment to make the sign
ordinance a part of the zoning ordinance. Comm. Di Monda stated he
would attend, if possible.
f. Tentative Future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
g. City Council minutes of January 18, 25 & 28, and February 1,
1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
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Mr. Schubach stated, regarding the Round Table Pizza issue heard
earlier during this meeting, if that establishment wished to
refrain from deliveries, the delicatessen portion of the restaurant
would be able to continue operation, due to the definition of
"restaurant". Mr. Lee explained the issue is whether or not the
Commission would allow a delicatessen within a market is a separate
use which creates a more intense usage of the property, not the
ownership of the establishments. Comm. Merl felt this issue should
be reviewed and brought back to the Commission. Chmn. Ketz felt a
definition of uses, not who holds the leases, was necessary. Comm.
Di Monda discussed the parking requirements of multi-establishment
versus single-use establishmentB with Mr. Lee. Comm. Di Monda
expressed concern relating to subleased space, the parking
requirements and whether the Commission can stop a boutique
operation. Mr. Schubach explained the problems with the current
Zoning Code definitions. Mr. Lee distributed a memorandum
addressing the question of torte liability, stating the "bottom
line" is that he did not believe there was any torte liability.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Suard stated, for medical purposes, he would not be able to
attend any meetings in March 1992. Chmn. Ketz noted an exception
would have to be made by the City Council, confirmed by Mr.
Schubach.
Comm. Di Monda asked that at the March 3, 1992 meeting, the Policy
Statements be brought back for review and possible text amendment;
specifically, now that there is no longer a HIP program, the deck
space adjacent to livin9 areas. Comm. Merl asked that at the March
3, 1992 meeting, Pavilion issue should be discussed by the
Commission, feeling it is not a permanent problem, but the
Commission should be aware of the conditions.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to adjourn at
11:30 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of January 21,
1992. 1 . , 1 I
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~ Christine Ketz, Chairman Michael Schubach, Secretary·----
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON FEBRUARY 4, 1992, A'l' 7 :00 P.M. IN THE CITY BALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:01 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Merl (arrived at 7:05 p.m.)
Comm. Suard (arrived at 7:10 p.m.)
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to appro~.·e the
following Consent Calendar items, with a correction in Resolution
P.C. 92-3, Page 2, No. 4, to read, "Certificate of Occupancy".
Minutes of the January 7, 1992 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P .C. 92-3, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF A SECOND UNIT, AND
APPROVING AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(b) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE
TO ALLOW THIS ADDITION OF REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 840 FIFTEENTH
STREET.
Resolution P.C. 92-1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, REGARDING THE DESIGN OF
RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS SUBJECT TO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND/OR
PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comms. Merl and Suard
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-10 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PUN TO ALLOW A DUPLEX AT 122
FIRST STREET (CONTINUED FROM JANUARY 7 , 1992 MEETING).
Recommended Action: To continue to February 18, 1992 meeting for
applicant to submit revised plans.
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Mr. Schubach stated the Staff recommended continuance to the
February 18, 1992, meeting, due to complications with the existing
side yard of 2.45 feet and the house width, the applicant needed
additional time to complete new plan revisions.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:04 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:04 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE PDP
91-10 to the Planning Commission Meeting on February 18, 1992.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comm. Marks, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Di. Monda
None
Comma. Merl, Suard
CON 92-1/PDP 92-1 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#20554, AND A PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM
AT 2902 HERMOSA AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To ap~rove said Conditional Use Permit,
Tentative Parcel Map and Precise Development Plan.
Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, describing the property,
location, existing structures and proposed project. He stated the
project is consistent with the area, complies with Planning and
Zoning requirements, was designed with various setbacks and
~rejections, and complied with applicable code requirements
including a recently adopted policy statement relating to open
space requirements. Mr. Schubach noted the applicant wished to
provide access from both the street and alley, necessitating an
additional curb cut on Hermosa Avenue. The loss of one space
street parking would be offset by additional driveway parking. He
coro.mented the March 1989 project approval included driveways at
both Hermosa Avenue and Palm Drive.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:11 p.m.
Elizabeth Srour, 820 Manhattan Avenue, representing Mr. and Ms.
Douglas Clark, discussed the analysis submitted to the Commission,
described in detail the proposed project and aspects of the pro-
posed structures. She stated the two units would have a total of
seven controlled parking spaces. Comm. Marks determined with Ms.
Srour that an elevator room was shown on the plans.
Vivian Hoffman, 3002 Hermosa Avenue,
28 residents protesting the project.
miniums have a maximum height of
reviewed.
submitted a petition ·eigned by
Ms. Hoffman requested condo-
30 feet and that Zoning be
Wilma Burt, Hermosa Beach, felt no buildings should be allowed to
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have a height of over 30 feet. She felt the area was being changed
into a rental area rather than a private residential area, also
suggesting the Zoning Ordinance be reviewed.
Elizabeth Srour rebutted by stating the project met all Codes
currently in existence, is very attractive and will be compatible
with adJacent properties. She commented upon the high purchase
price of property within Hermosa Beach, and stated the owners are a
family of five and wish to have a large home, as well as a rental
unit.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:24 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda provided a map to the Commission, noting R-1
pro1rerties along The Strand and, then, immediately adjacent R-3
zoning, with R-2 and R-1 followin9. He discussed the misplacement
of the R-3 zoning, resulting in view and light blockage due to the
height limits. He suggested the plans be revised to drop the
building by five feet, to allow other views to be maintained. He
questioned allowing the project to be completed as long as the
question regarding the R-3 zoning area remained.
Comm. Suard seconded Comm. Di Monda' s views and discussed the
possibility of a moratorium. Mr. Schubach suggested the matter be
referred to the City Council or continued to consider a moratorium
or area rezoning. Mr. Lee explained the moratorium restrictions
and stated the Commission may request consideration by City Council
of a moratorium and noted the issues relating to continuance: i.e.
be the time limitations in which the City must act upon project
approval or disapproval. He offered to investigate the ability to
condition a moratorium and report back to the Commission. Mr. Lee
stated another available alternative to the Commission was to
consider the merits of the application and either approve or
disapprove the application. Comm. Suard asked for the applicant's
views toward reducing the building height.
Comm. Merl stated he felt the project conformed to all require-
ments; the Commission should base its decision upon the project
merits and separate th.e review of zoning from this project.
Public Hearing reopened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:32 p.m.
Elizabeth Srour stated reduction of the building by five feet would
be extremely complicated, result in loss of interior space and
require a total redesign. She determined that a single-family
dwelling would not require appearance before the Commission, noting
the unfairness and impact to the applicant, all requirements had
been met by the project and that the project was now ready to move
forward. She asked this project be treated as had others
previously before the Commission. ·
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:24 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz stated the Commission had the option to approve or deny
the request, continue the request with recommendation to City
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Council a moratorium on R-3 area development until concerns are
reviewed and decided upon. Mr. Schubach commented that if the
Commission continued the project to a date-certain, no additional
costs would be experienced by the applicant. He stated a C.U.P, is
valid for a two-year period.
Comm. Marks noted the applicant had completed a great amount of
work which met codes and had been accepted by Staff.
In response to a question from Chmn. Ketz, Mr. Lee explained the
general rule in California in respect to vested rights is that a
valid building permit and substantial amount of construction be
completed; a valid C.U.P. alone does not constitute vested rights.
Mr. Lee referenced and explained a recent case law which has
started to change that rule, recommending the Commission and City
Council review the status of each project in reference to a
moratorium implemented after project approval.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Marks, to APPROVE CON
92-1/PDP 92-1 for a one-year valid period with all conditions
recommended by Staff.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Chmn. Retz
None
Comm. Suard
None
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to ask that the
City Council review zoning of R-3 areas, specifically this
project's R-3 zone, and any R-3 areas that are ''islands" within R-1
and/or R-2 zo ni ng areas and direc t the Commission, or that the City
Council issue a moratorium to allow Staff time to study and respond
to the Commission.
AYES:
NOES:
Comma. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
The Commis sion directed Staff to describe the subject area in a way
that distinctively makes a differenc e from the other areas and
submit that description to the Commission prior to submission to
City Council.
CUP 91-18 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW AUTO
DETAILING IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING CAR WASH, AND ADOPTION OF
AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1000 PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY, HERMOSA CAR WASH.
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit
amendment and adopt the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach discussed the history of this application, noting the
long term existance of the gasoline station and automatic car wash
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that had been on the site, a valid C. U. P., the existence of a
non-complying canopy and detail work being conducted, with
subsequent Variance request denial. The site was purchased in
1990, with improvement being made thereafter, including a partially
automatic/handwash operation. Mr. Schubach said the -applicant
proposed to relocate the canopy and adequate parking remains a
problem. A landscape bumper strip and a revised parking plan
showing parking changes have been proposed by Staff. He discussed
resident complaints received by Staff and explained the impact of
the detailing, parking and exiting opera.tions and requirements.
Some suggested conditions included a revised parking plan to
include employee parking, prohibiting employee parking on the
street, provision of street trees and dense landscaping, full
enclosure of the car wash except entrance and exit, and limitation
of hours of operation. Mr. Schubach noted cars should be driven by
employees, therefore the circumstances are acceptable, with a
limited access to the car-waxing operation in the rear.
Comm. Merl noted that on week-ends, cars are being parked on an
adjacent lot and that exit from that lot by backing the cars out
was very dangerous. Mr. Schubach stated Staff had not been aware
of that situation, but felt use of the adjacent lot was an illegal
use, suggested Conditions be added addressing the use of that lot.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed the requirement for 17
parking space requirement for employees.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:07 p.m.
Ken McDonald, project architect, 2306 Pacific Coast Highway, #307,
stated a noise test had been conducted and trees had been planted.
He stated additional landscaping could be accomplished to decrease
the noise factor. The majority of the employees use a bus rather
than cars, allowing more available parking. He suggested that
several parking configurations be submitted for review and approval
by the Commission. He stated the hours of operation -are 8: 00 a.m.
-6:00 p.m. in the summer and 8:00 a.m. -5:00 p.rn. in the winter.
Richard O'Bryan, applicant, stated he was not aware o -f the non-
conforming status when he purchased the property. He stated the
employee parking was well below ten. After discussion between
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach, it was suggested a revised parking
plan which perhaps included stacked employee parking would be
necessary. Mr. O 'Bryan stated he could accommodate 17 parking
stalls. He discussed exiting onto 10th Street and explained the
problems associated with closure of that exit, noting his willing-
ness to assur-e --signage stating "Exit Only".
s. J. Lennox, property owner 845 10th Street, felt the noise had
increased, not decreased. He stated that cars from the car wash
were parked on 10th Street and opposed approval of the application.
David Nakiwa, 10th Street, stated he hears the carwash every dar,
noise has not decreased, on-site parking is always full, traf fie
exiting is dangerous, and detailing is done every day. He opposed
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approval of the application. He approved blocking off 10th Street
and closure of the car ramp onto 10th Street.
Mr. Dunlap, 830 10th Street since 1956, felt the noise wasn't
excessive and the parking problems being experienced was due to the
number of rental properties on the street, not the car wash.
Mike Galeata, 902 10th Street, agreed with David Nakiwa's
statements, commenting upon the traf fie speed due to cars coming
from Aviation Blvd., stating the traffic is being unnecessarily
increased. He stated there are more property owners than renters
living on 10th Street.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:30 p.m.
Mr. Schubach explained that equipment had been installed without
prior approval by the Building Department, but were purported to
have reduced the noise level. Staff has not received any
additional complaints and thought the problem to have been
resolved. Howeve:r:, upon site inspection, Staff had concluded
additional reduction by enclosing the canopy area was necessary.
Comm. Marks confirmed that Staff's suggestion to not allow
employees to park on 10th Street should be reinforced.
Comm. Di Monda discussed with Mr. Schubach the property history
dating back to 1971 and noted six parking spaces were required in
1989. He felt the 10th Street exit could probably be closed and
sympathized with residents regarding the noise levels, but stated
he had a problem with requiring 17 parking spaces for a non-chan9ed
property usage. Mr. Schubach again suggested a revised parking
plan with stacked parking spaces be submitted to the Commission.
Comm. Merl fe-lt the landscaping should have been completed
previously and expressed concern regarding the traffic problems,
including required safety and supervision, which should be
addressed. Chmn. Ketz stated her agreement and outlined the
options available to the Commission. Comm. Suard discussed
possible canopy closure with acoustically-saturated material.
Public Hearing reopened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:45 p.m.
Mr. O'Bryan, applicant, requested a two-month continuance to
conduct research in acoustical materials and allow the • architect
sufficient time to complete revisions.
Mr. McDonald, architect, also requested the two-month continuance,
stating he had other clients and needed the additional time. Comm.
Marks confirmed with Mr. McDonald that the issues were: noise,
closure of the canopy, restriping of the parking lot, parking in
the adjacent parking lot and possible closure of the 10th Street
exit.
MOtION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE
CUP 91-18 until this item until March 17, 1992, at which time a
revised parking plan, with at least 12 -parking spaces and closure
of 10th Street exiting, is to be submitted to the Commission.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
A break was taken from 8:57 until 9:03 p.m.
CUP 91-21/ZON 91-1 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A DAY CARE
CENTER FOR 30 CHILDREN AND TO ALLOW AN OVER-HEIGHT SOUND WALL
PURSUANT TO SECTION 1215(6) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND TO
CONSIDER A ZONE CHANGE FROM R-1 TO C-3 OR TO SUCH OTHER ZONE AS
DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND ADOPTION OF A
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 739 LONGFELLOW AVENUE, O.K.
CORRAL DAY CARE (continued from November 19, 1991 meeting).
Recommended Action: To approve said Conditional Use Permit with
adoption of the Environmental Negative Declaration, and deny the
zone change.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended approval subject to
Conditions. He stated the retaining wall is on public property and
that a taller, private fence, planted with ficus vines, is
recommended to be built. He noted an alternative to approval would
be to Continue the issue until a traffic evaluation could be
completed. Mr. Schubach noted the zone change is unnecessary and,
therefore, denial is recommended. He noted a maximum allowance of
28 children, but stated a condition is that a license be obtained
which would determine the amount of children allowed at this
facility. Mr. Schubach further discussed parking requirements,
hours of operation, traffic impact, fencing and remodel of interior
structure, and noted the differences between the proposed business
and the previous day center at the same location. He also stated
the noise impact is of concern, to be decreased by fencing and
landscaping, and partially mitigated through the conditions of the
C.U.P.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:13 p.m.
Bill Beck, 124 Harkness, stated he concurred with the C.U.P. except
for the playground hours. He requested an time earlier than 9:30
a.m. to allow children on the playground. Mr. Beck acknowledged a
parking problem exists whether he is there or not. He stated he
had a gas-meter vault on the corner and, therefore, could not
comply with fencing suggestions, but will be setting the fence back
and adding landscaping and will have a very nice "look" from the
street. He stated he was in favor or the C.U.P. Commission Marks
suggested he ~put a coping on top of a wall, to which Mr. Beck
agreed. Comm. Di Monda discussed the apparent lack of toilets in
the plans with Mr. Beck, who stated facility must be adequate to
qualify for a license. Comm. Suard determined the Center would
qualify for only 25 children. Chmn. Ketz discussed with Mr. Beck
his wish to open at 6: 30 a .m. Mr. Beck stated the parents must
bring the children into the building and sign them in·, parking
their car during that process.
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care center. He stated a petition in opposition had been submitted
had been submitted to the City Council. He stated the Center was
in the center of traf fie bedla.m and that it had not planned
adequate parking spaces and requested a traffic study be completed
prior to any decision.
Wilma Burt, Hermosa Beach, opposed approval of the child care
center, feeling the door was being opened to other centers and
traffic problems would increase. She questioned the number of
proposed employees, parking spaces and facilities versus the number
of children that will be attending the Center.
Mel Takata, 738 Longfellow, discussed use of his driveway by
unauthorized vehicles, the fact that fewer children will attend
this Center than the previous one, lack of area parking spaces, and
urged the Commission to consider the traffic problems within the
area. He suggested that permanent resident-only parking be
considered as an alternative. Mr. Takata felt that Mr. Beck had
had strong indications that the application would be approved,
which bothered him. He stated he was glad a zone change was not
being recommended.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:38 p.m.
Comm. Merl and Mr. Schubach discussed the possibility and method of
obtaining preferential parking for residents. Chmn. Ketz and Comm.
Merl agreed that a parking problems existed on the street. The
requirement for liability insurance was discussed by Comm. Merl
with Mr. Lee stating it was not a condition of the C.U.P. since the
operation was on private property. Mr. Lee explained the liabili-
ties for the use did not extend to the City and discussed ramifi-
cations with the Commission, offering to further investigate and
return with his findings to the Commission. Comm. Di Monda
expressed concern that implementation of liability insurance would
extend to condominiums and other issues, to which Chmn. Ketz
agreed. The Commission directed Mr. Lee to investigate and present
his findings at the next scheduled Commission meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated this day care center meet al·l the
requirements and will be different than the previously submitted
plans; the Commission is not approving a I?lan with inadequate
equipment or facilities. He stated the residents can apply for
permitted parking, which would probably help alleviate parking
problems.
MOTION by Comm, Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
C. U. P. to allow a day care center, with Conditions, landscaping
changes to include angled fence at the pro~erty corner as a safety
measure, with...-adjustments to Item #11; business hours of 6:30 a.m.
to 6:30 p.m. and allowing children to play outside on the
playground beginning at 8:30 a.m.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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STAFF ITEMS
a. Memorandum regarding the status report at 126 Manhattan Avenue.
Chmn. Ketz noted the Building Department made no progress and
no further effort to obtain final approval. Mr. Schubach
stated Staff would follow this issue to assure it will be
progress in the proper manner. Comm. Di Monda asked if the
final map be approved prior to the property being placed in
escrow. Mr. Lee stated that is a function of disclosure to the
potential buyer.
b. Memorandum regarding staff recommendations.
Chmn. Ketz stated this referenced the Commission's request to
know in advance if Staff intends to change its recommendations
forwarded to City Council. Mr. Schubach stated he submitted
this memorandum for the Commission's information and would
notify the Commission if any Staff decisions were altered.
c. Memorandum regarding Hotel Hermosa sign approval.
Mr. Schubach believed notice will be forwarded to the ·city
Manager stating the permit should not have been granted and
should be rescended. If the property owner is dissatisfied, he
may appeal the decision. Mr. Lee stated his office and the
City Manager's is aware of the issue and the question as to
whether or not a reasonable interpretation had been made, with
no opinion to the City Manager issued to date. He felt it
appropriate the property owner be put on notice.
Chmn. Ketz asked if the Commission could appeal it to itself,
to which Mr. Lee stated the Planning Commission is the appeal
body, but the Commission does not expressly have the right to
be the a~grieved party. Mr. Lee had not issued an opinion as
to the right to appeal at this time, with discussions having
just started. Chmn. Ketz noted, in the sign ordinance, page
336.50, it states a banner must be approved by the Planning
Commission. Mr. Lee acknowledged the valid point, but needed
to return with an opinion, noting the Code ambiguity. Chmn.
Ketz noted, under the Design Section of the Code, Material
336.38, stated the materials from which a sign could be made;
metal, glass, approved plastic or wood. Mr. Lee stated the
Attorney's Office needs to further study the issue before an
opinion may be given, but that the Code is clear in that the
administrative interpretation and ~nforcement is with·the
building official, subject to appeal. He acknowledged and
explained the lack of clarity in the Code.
Comm. Di Monda noted that correspondence showed that a
suggestion was made to the hotel operator that a permanent
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sign, noting that Mr. Grove initially interpreted the Sign
Ordinance as a temporary sign, found himself with an
enforcement problem and offered his own solution to the hotel
operator, resulting in the involvement of a multitude of City
officials, to resolve the created problem. Mr. Lee suggested
the Commission may wish to close any policy loop holes by
suggesting Ordinance changes. Comm. Merl pointed out that the
sign could have been made of wood and would have then.been
acceptable. Mr. Lee noted that Staff interprets on a
day-to-day basis the Ordinances, giving practical meaning to
those 'ordinances. The Commission may increase clarity and
review procedures of the ordinances or make Code Amendements if
they so wish.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Lee discussed the Commission's wishes,
with Mr. Lee reiterating the Commission had asked the Planning
Director to raise the issue with the City Manager's Office,
that had been completed, the Sign Ordinance is within the
jurisdiction of the Building Official, the City Manager can
question the administrative i nterpretation with the Building
Official, and the Commission's position is well known relating
to this issue. He noted the Commission could suggest that
counsel review the Sign Ordinance, but under present
conditions, it is being handled under Administration, and
appropriately so.
Comm. Merl felt the Sign Ordinance should be revised, put into
the Zoning Ordinance, but stated it was clear the sign was
improper by definition. He felt the ordinance was clear and
that the decision regarding this sign was incorrect and needed
to be addressed, requesting to see copies of adjacent cities'
sign ordinances. Mr. Merl suggested the Commission request the
City Council initiate a Text Amendment to the Municipal Code to
make the Sign Ordinance a part of the Zoning Ordinance.
Comm. Suard noted the current sign will deteriorate quickly and
suggested prior to a replacement sign being installed, the
Commission should be able to approve or veto. Comm. Di Monda
suggested that once new text is in place, an amitorization
period on all signs of this type to have them removed. Mr. Lee
agreed this would be appropriate. He commented that if the
City Manager's Office determined the sign stands, the
Commission could ask council to review the issue and ask the
matter be brought up on appeal to the Commission. Comm. Merl
disagreed in that the article states, "ap~roval by the
Commission". Mr. Lee stated a determination as to "sign" or
"banner" needed to be made in relation to this particular
issue, again noting the ambiguitie~ of the Sign Ordinance.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl to approve the
Memorandum.
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AYES:
NOES:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
d. Memorandum regarding the joint workshop meetings.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff had contacted the School Board
regarding meeting dates and presented the School Board's
preference of March 5 and 26, 1992 for the meetings. He stated
the preferred meeting date, as well as the meeting topics would
be presented to the City Council. He stated the Chamber of
Commerce had agreed to meet jointly with the Planning
Commission on May 7 or 14, 1992 and requested the Coill11)ission
select the meeting date and topics to be discussed.
The Commission decided to meet with the School board on
March 26, 1992 at 7:00 p.m.; topics to be the green-belt
relationship, traffic circulation and the school properties
which are supposed to be park areas.
The Commission decided it had no date preference in which to
meet with the Chamber of Commerce; topics to be according to
the Chamber of Commerce's preference, but to include bagging of
meters and subsequent impact on downtown business, and discuss
a completion of a study to install windows for cross ventila-
tion in the City Hall Council Chambers with a Public Works
Department representative included in the meeting. Mr.
Schubach stated the information would be immediately forwarded
to the Council, with responses brought back to the Commission.
e. Planning Department activity report of December 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
f. Memorandum regarding Planning Commission liaison for February
11, 1992 City Council meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff's recommendation is exactly the same
as the one presented to the Planning Commission.
g. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
h. City Council minutes of January 14, 1992.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
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COMMISSIONER ITEMS
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to send a memorandum to the City
Manager expressing the Commission's displeasure at the delay in its
receipt of the green-belt parking lot plans, noting that previous
direction made during the joint meeting of City Council and
Planning Commission has not been followed. Comm. Marks stated Mr.
Glickman had promised to present the plan at the February 18, 1992
Planning commission meeting.
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to present a report giving current
status of The Strand improvements.
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to initiate a memorandum to the City
Council requesting the Commission be an informal part of the
planning phase for major capital improvements by receiving infor-
mation from the Building Department relative to its intentions and
allowing the Commission to respond with informal recommendations.
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to initiate a memorandum to City
Council requesting it issue a Public Policy that the Public Works
Department's Capital Improvement Projects should be reviewed by the
Planning Commission, upon the Commission's request. •
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to submit the Capital Improvement
Budget to the Commission to allow the Commission's determination as
to items wished to review.
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to investigate the condominiums
located on the former South School site, which appears to have a
maintenance problem.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to adjourn at
10:44 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the fore going minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of February 4,
1992.
~A-~ sr3tq2.. 1;~ Christine Ketz, Chairman
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JANUARY 21, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 6:59 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Suard.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the January 7, 1992 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 92-1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING A TEXT
AMENDMENT TO ALLOW DAY NURSERIES, PRESCHOOLS, AND AFTER SCHOOL
CHILD CARE FACILITIES WITH THIRTEEN OR MORE CHILDREN AS A CONDI-
TIONALLY PERMITTED USE IN THE R-1 ZONE, AND AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 10
TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR GRANTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR
SUCH FACILITIES, AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Resolution P. C. 92-2, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTIONS 13-7(a) AND (b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN
EXISTING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE
AND THE REMOVAL OF MORE THAN 30% OF EXTERIOR WALLS Ar-1542 GOLDEN
AVENUE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-11/NR 91-8 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A SECOND UNIT ON A R-2B LOT AT 840 FIFTEENTH
STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said Precise Development Plan.
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Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating Staff recommended
APPROVAL subject to Conditions. He described the property lot,
current building and proposed construction of 76% of replacement
value and discussed the existing nonconforming side yard setback.
He stated two necessary minor plan corrections noted by the
Building Department are included as Conditions of Approval: ( 1)
the rear-unit deck space is more than 50% covered and ( 2) the
mezzanine floor area exceeds 1/3 of the room below. The _applicant
has indicated he will correct both.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:05 p.m.
Robert Garstein, project architect, 2175 w. 236th Street, stated he
and the applicant had reviewed and agreed with the Conditions,
presenting plan changes to the Commission for review. Commissioner
Marks noted the rear retaining wall was on an adjacent neighbor's
property. Mr. Garstein stated the wall belonged to the neighbor
and discussed a drafting error on the drawings.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:09 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
application with the Conditions stipulated in the Staff Report.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chinn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 89-8 A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#20620 FOR A THREE-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1344 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To grant six-month extension.
Mr. Schubach stated the Planning Commission had previousiy approved
six-month extensions for similar properties and believed it appro-
priate to grant this extension.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:11 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:11 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to approve a
six-month extension of this application.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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SS 91-5 EXAMINATION OF THE PROBLEM OF VAPORS AND ODORS DUE TO
THE OPERATION OF BUSINESSES AND STUDY OF POSSIBLE METHODS FOR
ALLEVIATING THE PROBLEM.
Recommended Action: To direct staff to set for public hearing.
Mr. Schubach discussed Staff's conclusions, noting decisions would
be based upon a case-by-case basis. He noted the difficulties in
obtaining A.Q.M.D. inspectors in a timely manner to their office
location, the limited number of inspectors, the difficulty in
determining objectionable odors, limitations on emission levels and
compliance means selection by business owners. He stated if the
City decided to mandate the emissions, ~otential pitfalls do exist,
which he explained. He stated the Chief Prosecutor's Office had
indicated that any local procedural regulations could potentially
create a conflict. The City could enroll Staff Members in the
A.Q.M.D. violation training courses at no cost, but limit staff
training to only emissions produced from local operations, or
obtain an outside consultant funded by an special impact fee, to
assist the A.Q.M.D. staff. He then discussed the method of fines
and regulatory procedures, with the City working closely with the
A.Q.M.D. Staff. He stated this program is a new concept, the City
of Hermosa Beach would be a "Guinea pig'', and the A.Q.M.D. Staff is
very enthusiastic.
Mr. Schubach discussed the methods of odor determination with Comm.
Marks. Comm. Di Monda determined the trained City Staff would
carry out the enforcement, with Mr. Schubach suggesting the trained
personnel be from the Fire, Planning and Building Departments, with
the Planning Department holding the responsibility due to
businesses having C.U.P.s. Comm. Di Monda noted the projected
paint-booth conversion figures of $25,000 and $40,000 and requested
clarification prior to the Commission making a decision.
Additionally, Comm. Di Monda requested additional information be
obtained as to what is involved in training, equipment, type of
A.Q.M.D. assistance, procedures, how many forecasted calls per day
will be received by the City, the cost to the City and the impact
on local businesses. Cornms. Merl and Di Monda discussed the
equipment needs and staff training with Mr. Schubach. Comm. Merl
discussed his concern relating to the fact that no quantifiable
devices used, noting that objective criteria would need to be
established. Comm. Suard discussed the extent the City would take
enforcement with Mr. Schubach. Chmn. Ketz stated more information
must be obtained and presented prior to the Commission making a
decision.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:31 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:31 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to DIRECT Staff
to obtain and present to the Commission more information relating
to the cost, impact fees, training and enforcement areas of this
proposed Special Study.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coffllns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
PS 91-4 POLICY STATEMENT REGARDING DESIGN OF CONDOMINIUMS AND
RESIDENTIAL PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN REGARDS TO OPEN SPACE AND
BASEMENTS.
Recommended Action: To adopt the policy statement.
Mr. Schubach stated the Commission had directed Staff to prepare
Policy Statements addressing concerns relating to designer
residential projects relating to open space. He stated these
guidelines and general policies relate to basements, grade levels
and open spaces to include roof decks, courtyards and areas
adjacent to primary living areas. He also defined an additional
proposed statement applying to the design and layout of extra rooms
commonly located on ground floors.
Comm. Di Monda felt a Text Amendment should be made for Items A and
B. He did not agree with Item C in that he felt bath and laundry
facilities shou ld be allowable, upon Commission's review and
approval, within a bottom floor (basement). Chmn. Ketz felt that
full bathrooms should not be allowed and felt a Policy Statement
was more appropriate than a Text Amendment. Comm. Marks expressed
his concern regarding "vagueness" and felt that enough criteria
should be included to assist the designer and alleviate any "boot
legs". Mr. Schubach noted all the issues will reappear as future
Text Amendments when reviewed as a part of HIP. Comm. Suard
disagreed with the concept of determining a basement, feeling the
height limit requirement was adequate, the Commission should be
determining second-floor exit requirements, not whether a floor is
a basement or first floor. Comm. Marks noted the natural grade
prevails in the determination of a basement, to which the
Commission agreed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:44 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:44 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE as
Policy Statements Item A as written, request Staff investigate
Redondo Beach's similar situations and. decisions, wait for H.I.P.,
at which time this would be included or written in as a Text
Amendment; ADOPT Item B as a Policy as written; APPROVE Item C
after striking the last sentence relating to nonallowance of
laundry facility, thereby allowing laundry facilities in a
basement.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coffllns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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STAFF ITEMS
a. "Designing Without a Blueprint" --an article in Los Angeles
Times for Planning Commission's information from Councilman
Edgerton.
Chmn. Ketz stated this article discusses the lack of design
standards and control within Los Angeles. She stated Hermosa Beach
has a lot more design controls. Comm. Suard agreed with the
article that old, beautiful buildings are being replaced by
"boxes", feeling that the City of Hermosa Beach should rethink its
policies relating to the redesign of the older buildings.
b. Correspondence and ·response regarding the fence height along
Valley Drive at 2830 -2832 Ingleside Drive.
Mr. Schubach explained the property was sided by three streets with
the nonconforming wall not substantially impacting the neighbor-
hood. He requested a Variance due to the unusual lot. He
discussed the owner's cost in relocating the wall and the fact the
new wall exceeded the maximum allowable height. He requested
direction from the Planning Commission.
Chmn. Ketz noted this common occurrence of walls in that area.
Comm. Di Monda felt it should be decided if walk streets were
streets or part of the park system and noted the "side yard" in
question was actually a back yard. He felt a Text Amendment
specifically addressing that type of lot and covering the walk
street situation should be initiated, with a case-by-case
determination as to whether yards were side or back yards. He felt
the existing wall should be allowed to remain with landscaping
required. Comm. Merl agreed a Text Amendment is required.
Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Di Monda discussed establishing a baseline
determination of existing fencing in this area. Mr. Lee suggested
the presumption is that lots facing a walk street has an adjacent
front yard, when that might not be the case and that perhaps a Text
Amendment to eliminate walk streets as the front of the house is
appropriate and that landscaping not be a Condition until a Text
Amendment were adopted. Comm. Merl felt a retroactive Policy
Amendment should be established. Comm. Di Monda felt Staff to
review the three-sided lots. Chmn. Ketz felt all lots on fronting
on Valley Drive should be reviewed. The Commission discussed the
existence of nonconforming fences and the manner to control future
building, determining that a listing of existing fences should be
made for future reference. Mr. Lee commented that the property
owner should be noticed that his fence is in violation of the City
Municipal Code at the present time~ although action is not being
currently taken, this fence could be subject to future enforcement.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to DIRECT Staff
to develop a Text Amendment dealing with the issue of the three-
sided lots and lots, in general, that front along Valley Drive in
terms of the fencing, and REQUEST that auring the study period a
moratorium on enforcement be in effect until the end of the study
period.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Com1ns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
c. Planning Department activity report of November, 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
d. Memorandum regarding Planning Com1nission liaison for January
28, 1992 City Council meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated he probably would attend and speak on Item #2
at the meeting, requesting that when a denial appeal is presented,
the Commission receive Staff's recommendation prior to the hearing.
Mr. Schubach stated that if and when Staff had a recommendation,
the Commission would be made aware of it, discussing the difficulty
due to changes made by the applicant. Comm. Di Monda felt the
appeal should be made to the Commission before being presented at
the City Council meeting, to which Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Merl
agreed, with Chmn. Ketz DIRECTING Staff to forward such recommenda-
tions to the Commission, to which Mr. Schubach agreed, if they are
available. The Commission and Mr. Schubach discussed a previous
application denied by the Commission and presented to the City
Council. Mr. Lee stated nothing prevents an applicant's correction
of problems and addressing the Commission's concerns to the City
Council on the appeal, with Staff identifying the considerations
for project approval. He stated at that point in time, it was a
function of the City Council to make the decision to approve, deny
or refer the matter back to the Planning Commission.
e. Tentative future Planning Com1nission Agenda.
Comm. Di Monda asked about the Green Belt project. Mr. Schubach
stated he has contacted Public Works Department, and will do so
again. Comm. Suard asked if the City Council/School District/
Planning Commission March meeting was being addressed. Mr Schubach
stated that two meeting dates were proposed. He will confirm the
dates for the Commission.
f. City Council minutes of December 10, 12 and 23, 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda asked about the Hermosa Hotel temporary banner to
which Mr. Schubach responded the banner had been approved as a
permanent sign. After discussion, the Commission felt the banner
should not have been approved as a permanent sign, should be
removed, and DIRECTED Staff to present this issue to the City
Manager's Office, then, guides could be _presented in terms of the
application of the Code. The Commission .also agreed a Text
'Amendment to move the regulation for signs within the Zoning Code
and provide for the Commission's ultimate regulation of the signs
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prohibit permanent banners in the City should be initiated; with
banners being allowed for a 30-day period only.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to DIRECT a
letter to the City Manager to the effect the Commission has become
aware of what we believe is a violation of the sign ·ordinance by
definition; a sign that is defined as temporary, by definition,
obtained permanent approval, and the Commission would appreciate an
administrative review.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Comm. Di Monda asked for progress relating to a previous building
C.U.P. application, to which Mr. Schubach stated he would review
and report status to the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
8:46 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of January 21,
1992.
Christ~ne Ketz,-Chairman
·-/ ~~(
Michael Schubach, Secretary
Date
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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JANUARY 7, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Di Monda.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
CONSENT CALENDAR
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl (arrived at 7:06
p.m.), Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney;
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks to approve the
following consent calendar items:
December 3, 1991 Minutes
Resolution P.C. 91-51, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #22886 AND PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN
FOR A TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 143 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Resolution P.C. 91-69, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A VARIANCE REQUEST
TO ALLOW A REMODEL AND SECOND STORY ADDITION THAT RESULTS IN A
TWO-CAR GARAGE WITH A SETBACK OF 3.5' RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 17'
AND REDUCES THE GROUND LEVEL OPEN SPACE TO LESS THAN THE REQUIRED
200 SQUARE FEET AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 3104
INGLESIDE DRIVE. -·
Resolution P.C. 91-78, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE GENERAL AUTO REPAIR AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AT 2 6 9 7 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY, "A. S. A. P. MUFFLER &
BRAKE".
Resolution P.C. 91-79, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(b) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW AN
ADDITION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF
REPLACEMENT VALUE AT 1040 MONTEREY BOULEVARD.
Resolution P.C. 91-80, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PARKING PLAN TO
ALLOW COMMON PARKING BETWEEN 1095 AND 1063 AVIATION BOULEVARD TO
ALLOW AN ADDITION TO A RESTAURANT AT 1095 AVIATION BOULEVARD.
Resolution P.C. 91-81, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A VESTING TENTATIVE
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PARCEL MAP #23246 FOR THE DIVISION OF TWO EXISTING LOTS INTO THREE
LOTS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PROSPECT AVENUE AND REYNOLDS LANE.
Resolution P.C. 91-82, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DENYING A REQUEST FOR A
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL AND A ZONE CHANGE FROM C-2, RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL, TO
R-2 TWO-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE PARCEL AT 64 10TH STREET.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-10 --PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW A DUPLEX AT 122
FIRST STREET.
Recommended Action: To continue to February 4, 1992 meeting for
applicant to submit revised plans.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommends a continuance. The applicant
requested this continuance due to discovery of a nonconforming side
yard, for which the second unit's size must be reduced, chan<Jing
the plans. Comm. Di Monda asked Staff to report on the historical
value of the house at the February 4, 1992 meeting.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:04 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:04 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to continue this
application until the February 4, 1992 Planning Commission meeting.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
Comm. Merl
Commissioner Merl arrived at 7:06 p.m.
PDP 91-5 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 64-ROOM HOTEL AND
3,336 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT, AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW
ON-SALE GENERAL ALCOHOL IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT, AND
ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 125 PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY, KING HARBOR HOTEL (CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 19 AND
DECEMBER 3, 1991 MEETINGS).
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Recommended Action: To continue to February 18, 1992 meeting.
Mr. Schubach stated Staff recommended continuance to allow the
applicant to revise plans in response to comments from the
Building, Public Works, Fire and Planning Departments. Mr.
Schubach described the site and the changes of the most recent plan
submittal. He stated Staff was satisfied as far as traffic
impacts, but had recommended right-turn area improvement and a
right-turn only restriction onto First Place and Pacific Coast
Highway. Mr. Schubach noted the ·applicant proposed construction of
a separate restaurant and a 64-room hotel, describing the parking
plans, hotel height and finished site plans. He stated the
applicant has requested a C.U.P. to serve alcohol at the
restaurant, which Staff would recommend approval as long as
standard conditions are applied by the bonafide restaurant.
The project is subject to Precise Development Plan requirements and
Ordinance design guideline. Mr. Schubach stated Staff reviewed
this project for consistency, discussed the observations made and
the resultant additional conditions/changes recommended by Staff.
Mr. Schubach said Staff believes it would be premature for the
Commission to take action on this project, as the applicant needs
additional time to respond to Staff's many comments and to provide
a traffic analysis to the City's satisfaction, and to allow Staff
to consult . with other Departments. He recommended that all
concerns of the Commission be made clear in any motion made.
Chmn. Ketz asked when CalTrans is expected to respond with project
comments. Mr. Schubach stated Staff will be contacting an agency
out of the Governor office to expedite the ·response at the
Commission's direction, noting the initial response was made
approximately three months ago. Commissioner Di Monda asked that
full-sized project drawings be provided in the future and if First
Place closure was discussed. Mr. Schubach discussed previous
proposals for closure, but stated the residents were opposed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn Ketz at 7:19 p.m.
Jeremy Yeh, applicant's representative, displayed · a proposed
project drawing, discussed with Comms. Di Monda and Marks the
manner of parking for both the restaurant and hotel, ~lan changes,
hotel and pool site location, utilization of view, building access
and the type of customers expected. He stated the plans were a
result of projected financial investment, monitoring of costs and
future profit considerations and would benefit the City of Hermosa
Beach. Comm. Marks noted traffic flow diverged onto one area.
Comms. Di Monda and Merl requested plan consideration to allow
better utilization of scenic views, swimming pool, signage design
and decrease in the appearance of restaurant separation. Comm.
Suard felt architectural significance would be experienced with the
current plan and discussed pool relocation. Chmn. Ketz felt the
access to First Place should be eliminated if it wasn't going to be
improved and expressed concerns about the type of signage.
Howard Longacre, 1221 7th Place, requested that recommendations for
continuance, it not be· printed on the public notice. He challenged
the "grandfather" clause being applied and plan changes, stating he
felt the plans were of a "motel", not a "hotel". He expressed his
concerns that CalTrans is "trashing" the town and increases in
traffic.
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Wilma Bert, 1152 7th Street," likes the idea of a hotel but is
opposed to the changes proposed, noted the "grandfather" clause is
not applicable, and objected to additional area traffic and impact
on residents.
Robert Schubert, 553 21st Street, objected to another hotel in the
area, discussing the current economical impact on existing hotels.
Hue Lai, 3100 Marywood Drive, Traffic Engineer, stated the rate of
increased traffic due to the hotel would be low and compared the
rate to commuter and commercial traffic and the hours of impact.
After discussion with Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Marks, Mr. Lai offered
to review the on-site traffic flow and closing of First Place.
Howard Chen, owner/developer's representative, stated the project
will be over $5 1 000,000, discussed the investment potential, resell
value and previous plan reviews, resulting in the proposed plan
being presented. He stated the swimming pool was a minor problem
and could be removed from the plans.
John McQue, 718 First Place, owner of three properties on First
Place, stated he experiences parking, traffic and turning problems
on First Place and First Street. He felt closure of First Place
would be a good option and the existing 20' wall should remain to
afford blockage from commercial.
Public Hearing continued and brought back to the Commission by
Chmn. Ketz at 8:25 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz noted Staff's recommendation to continue. Comm. Di
Monda discussed the definitions of "hotel" and "motel II with Mr.
Schubach, with Mr. Schubach stating the plans meet the II hotel"
requirements. Comm. Di Monda felt it should be classified as a
"motel" since no hotel services were offered. He suggested the
Commission review the definitions, consider making First Place a
cul de sac after surveying the residents, and asked the City
Attorney to provide an opinion on the previously mentioned
grandfather clause the next time this issue is discussed.
The Commission DIRECTED Staff to contact residents through a
questionnaire obtaining their opinions as to First Place .closure at
one end.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to CONTINUE
PDP 91-5 to February 18, 1992, with presentation to the Commission
of full-size plans, a materials board, the City Attorney's opinion
regarding the grandfather clause being p~esented on that dat~.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
TEXT 91-3 TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW DAY CARE FACILITIES FOR MORE
THAN 12 CHILDREN AS A CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USE IN ALL RESIDEN-
TIAL ZONES AND ADOPTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
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Recommended Action: To recommend approval of the text amendment
and adoption of the Environmental Negative Declaration.
Mr. Schubach discussed the history of this Text Amendment, noting
day care centers with more than 12 children are permitted only in
the C-1, -2, and -3 zones with a C.U.P. He stated expanding day
care centers into the residential areas would allow more day care
centers, expressed concern relating to traffic and noise, noted
additional recommended conditions and suggested additional parking
requirements, and recommended approval of the Text Amendment due to
the flexibility offered for case-by-case review and determination.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 8:40 p.m.
Mr. Woods, 731 Longfellow, felt this process was conducted to allow
one child care center to open in his neighborhood, stating there
are currently adequate child care centers available.
Wilma Bert, 152 7th Street, did not agree with the ability to open
child care centers any place within Hermosa Beach, no fencing is
required, nor is an age limit of six years old mentioned or
licensing required. She was against approval of the Text Amend-
ment.
Tom Goodwin, 736 Longfellow, opposed the recommended action. He
explained the parking problems experienced by his neighbors and
himself.
Jeff Barnell, 722 Longfellow, questioned the number of required
parking spaces, noting the parking problems being experienced by
residents.
Bill Beck, applicant, supported the Text Amendment.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 8:49 p.m.
Commissioner Suard confirmed a C.U.P. would be required if the Text
Amendment were approved. Chmn. Ketz discussed with Mr. Schubach
the State standards for open space at day care center, as well as
additional parking requirements tied to the number of teachers or
children rather than defining a specified number. Comm. Suard felt
additional requirements in terms of buffers were needed. Mr. Lee
noted under State Statute, requirements are imposed and admin-
strated by the County prior to license issuance and retention.
Comm. Di Monda commented the issues are whether to allow extended
day care use within the City with a C.U.P. and the adjacent-to-
commercial lots requirements.
MOTION by Chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Merl, to ADOPT TEXT 91-3
with a change of Section 2, Number 1, to read, "A Minimum of one
parking space for every seven children" and the addition of Section
2, Number 5 to read, "All day care centers shall meet State
statutes and be licensed".
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
Comm. Marks
None
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Mr. Schubach noted the City Council Public Hearing of this item
will be held in approximately one month, with a notice of hearing
being published in the local newspaper(s).
A recess was taken from 9:02 to 9:08 p.m.
HEARINGS
CON 90-8 A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARC EL MAP #22100 FOR A TWO-UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 626 7TH STREET.
Recommended Action: To grant one year extension.
Mr. Schubach stated the applicant is requ es ting an extension due to
the present state of the economy. S taff r ecommends this extension
in order to give the applicant time to record the final map. He
noted a similar request was previously granted only a six-month
extension.
Comm. Suard determined with Mr. Schubach that the application is
within compliance with the current code.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:10 p.m.
No one wished to speak regarding this item.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:10 p.m.
Comm. Di Monda felt the period of one-year should be reduce to
six-months as was granted to the other applicant.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to MOVE to
extend CUP for a six month period, to June 19, 1992.
AYES: Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Katz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
NR 91-7 AN EXCEPTION FROM SECTION 13-7(b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION
AND REMODEL RESULTING IN GREATER THAN 50% EXPANSION TO A SINGLE
FAMILY DWELLING AT 1542 GOLDEN AVENUE.
Mr. Schubach described the proposed remodel, property location and
current buildings. He outlined the significant improvements
proposed by t he applicant and explained the deficienci e s of the
side y ard and garage setback, stating exceptions are nece s sary. Mr.
Schubach stated it appeared , from the site visit, i mpact is
minima l. The Commission must ma ke a Finding that the goa l s, intent
and purposes of Article 13 are being met if it approves this
request. Staff believes this finding can be made, allowing a sound
structure to be maintained and expanded with the current noncon-
formities not significant or unusual for the neighborhood.
Comm. Marks asked that a longitudinal study be included for review,
noting first floor columns separated by a pool. Comm. Di Monda
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discussed Mr. Grove's comments, noting the plans do not reflect
noted changes. Mr. Schubach stated the changes will be made, as a
condition in meeting the requirements. Comm. Di Monda wished to
see final plans prior to making a decision. Comm. Suard requested
more information regarding the setback and adjacent properties.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:21 p.m.
Larry Peha, 67 14th Street, architect, stated the foundation will
be a pad footing below the pool level, explained the lack of stress
on the pool walls, and noted the addition of reverse windows on
both stories. He noted the shifting of the area homes, with the
last survey being completed in the early 1900's. Comm. Marks and
Mr. Peha discussed extending the landing length in front of the
door way for safety and usage.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:26 p.m.
Comm. Marks as if everything was in conformance to present
standards, to which Mr. Schubach responded on those item mentioned
in the Staff Report are not in conformance as far as zoning
requirements.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE NR 91-7,
allowing an addition and remodel greater than 50% expansion to a
single family dwelling location at 1542 Golden Avenue.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
ss 86-12
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Marks
None
None
SPECIAL STUDY REGARDING ADULT USES.
Recommended Action: To set for public hearing for text amendment
to the zoning ordinance.
Mr. Schubach stated this study was requested by the Planning
Commission and considered a priority. He stated Staff reviewed the
legal case law regarding adult uses, other cities and most current
model ordinance provided by the American Planning Association and
are presenting to the Commission suggested changes pertaining
mainly to adult theater, book store and video store uses which
cannot be prohibited from the City. Definitions, conditions of
approval and permitted uses reviewed and updated by Staff. Mr.
Schubach defined additional changes relating to massage parlors and
out-call services (with are not protected by the First Amendment
and not being protected by the City), which have been referred to
the City Attorney, who will furnish Staff with a legal opinion.
Mr. Schubach asked for suggestions and recommendations from the
Commission.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 9:31 p.m.
Wilma Bert, 1152 7th Street, questioned the priorities of items
being addressed by the Commission and stated her adamant oppos-
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ition ordinances being opened for "cruddy" businesses on Pacific
Coast Highway, such as massage parlors, pawn shops, check cashing
or bail bonds businesses. She stated C.U.P.'s are unorganized and
unchallenged.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 9:36 p.m.
Chmn. Ketz noted the Commission is amending the current ordinance
and the City is restricted by law and must allow these businesses.
Mr. Lee commented the text changes relating to video stores which
had adult materials are part of the reason the issue was-raised,
explaining Staff's and the Attorney's Offices intent is to assure
restrictive ordinances on the books that will withstand attack and
to regulate adult business uses. Mr. Schubach responded the
amendment will make the ordinance much tougher. Comm. • Di Monda
stated the Commission is not inviting those businesses into the
City.
Chmn. Ketz commented that 100 feet from the exterior wall should be
increased to 200 feet, as it is in other cities. She felt parking
requirements should be included in the report and C.U.P.'s should
be required of the video rental stores. Mr. Lee explained the 100
feet recommendation which complies with a case law which discusses
having a reasonable opportunity within zoning to allow for First
Amendment protected businesses. After discussion, the Commission
requested that Staff return with a report defining the meaning as
far as land available for potential uses if an increase from 100 to
200 fe et were adopted and supply infor.mation as to what other,
neighboring cities are doing. Mr. Schubach agreed the distance
would be changed to linear rather than radius. . The Commission
discussed "adult use zone clustering" with Messrs. Schubach and
Lee, deciding not to direct Staff to investigate further. The
Commission DIRECTED Staff to report the •percentage of commercial to
residential property in the Renton Case city, in order to conduct a
comparison with Hermosa Beach.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Marks, to direct Staff
to prepare the Text Amendment, prepare and present the requested
reports relating to changing the 100 feet to 200 feet and the
Renton Case for further study.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
STAFF ITEMS
Comms. Di Monda, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
Comm. Marks
None
None
MEMORANDUM REGARDING PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON TO JANUARY 14,
1992 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Chmn. Ketz stated at the City Council Meeting (1) the Test
Amendment to require relocation impact reports for displacement of
mobile homes, (2) the Appeal of the Planning Commission's decision
relating to a Master Conditional Use Permit Amendment for paint at
spray booth at 501 and 555 Pacific Coast Highway, European
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Bodyshop, and (3) reconsideration of the Planning Commission's
approval of a Variance to allow a remodel and second-story addition
at 3104 Ingleside Drive will be discussed.
No one wished to discuss these items at this time.
Receive and File.
LIST OF COMPLETED PROJECTS FOR INSPECTION.
Chmn. Ketz stated in the past Commissioners have requested a
listing of project addresses upon project completion so that a
plan/project comparison may be done.
TENTATIVE FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
Chmn. Ketz stated two hearings are scheduled at the Planning
Commission's January 21, 1992 meeting and a large agenda scheduled
for the February 4, 1992 meeting.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 26, 1991.
Receive and File.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Chmn. Ketz asked if, since the height requirement is changed from
40 feet to 35 feet, must the requirements be changed in the S.P.A.
areas, to which Mr. Schubach responded that had been done.
Comm. Di Monda noted the differences between the hotel and
Mr. Schubach noted the definitions are in the Land Use Revision,
along with modification to require the same amount of parking
requirements for both hotels and motels. After discussion, the
Commission DIRECTED Staff to revise the hotel and motel defin-
itions, as well as parking requirements, and present them to the
Commission as part of the Land Use Revision, projected for
presentation in June 1992.
Comm. Di Monda and Mr. Schubach discussed a car dealership which
has an "auto pawn" sign which Staff is requesting removed.
Comm. Suard and Chrnn. Ketz discussed Mr. Longacre' s complaint,
noting that once an item is agendized, the Commission must open it
for testimony whether it is continued or not. Comm. Merl suggested
rewording of the Public Hearing Section. Mr. Schubach commented
that an item recommended by Staff for continuation may not be
continued and testimony taken. The Commission DIRECTED Staff to
include a general statement on Public Hearings saying that
testimony will be accepted for all Public Hearings that are Noticed
if interested parties who would like to give testimony are unable
to attend the scheduled Continued Public Hearing meeting.
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Chmn. Ketz discussed with Mr. Schubach applicant and Staff
preparations to be completed prior to setting of a public hearing.
Mr. Schubach confirmed that due to required time limits, public
hearings are noticed well in advance, but after notice and during
review, if problems arise or the applicant wishes to change his
plans, a request for Continuance is made. Comm. Merl expressed his
concern regarding the public's participation being unnecessary
limited due to item continuances, resulting in the public's
perception that testimony is not necessary invited. Chmn. Ketz
noted that testimony is welcomed even if an item is continued.
Comm. Di Monda stated it is best for all if the Commission is able
to review plans as soon as possible to allow the applicant to
become aware of what the City is looking for and alleviate future
changes and problems, thereby decreasing the applicants' risks.
Mr. Lee noted and explained the due process requirements for
applicants and suggested the applicants bring _Plans to Staff,
asking for Staff input, suggesting the public hearing should be set
after the applicant has received Staff input and feels he/she is
ready for public hearing. Mr. Schubach stated Staff has been in-
formed by City Council and the previous City Manager to be very
cautious as to what is told to people over the counter and pointed
out the need for additional communication from the Commission as to
what the Commission wants and is looking for. Mr. Lee stated Staff
is well within its limits by noting to applicants concerns
expressed by the Commission in the past on similar projects. At
the public hearing, the Commission evaluates and makes its
determination.
MOTION by Chmm. Ketz, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
10:30 P.M. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of January 7,
1992.
Christine Ketz, Chairman Michael Schubach, Secreta'.'ry
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