HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1992_01_21MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH HELD ON JANUARY 21, 1992, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 6:59 P.M. by Chmn. Ketz.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Comm. Suard.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
Michael Schubach; Planning Director,
Edward Lee, Assistant City Attorney,
Sylvia Root, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to approve the
following Consent Calendar items:
Minutes of the January 7, 1992 Planning Commission meeting.
Resolution P.C. 92-1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING A TEXT
AMENDMENT TO ALLOW DAY NURSERIES, PRESCHOOLS, AND AFTER SCHOOL
CHILD CARE FACILITIES WITH THIRTEEN OR MORE CHILDREN AS A CONDI-
TIONALLY PERMITTED USE IN THE R-1 ZONE, AND AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 10
TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR GRANTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR
SUCH FACILITIES, AND ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
Resolution P. C. 92-2, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR AN
EXCEPTION FROM SECTIONS 13-7(a) AND (b) TO ALLOW AN ADDITION TO AN
EXISTING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE TO EXCEED 50% OF REPLACEMENT VALUE
AND THE REMOVAL OF MORE THAN 30% OF EXTERIOR WALLS Ar-1542 GOLDEN
AVENUE.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
No one wished to address the Commission regarding a matter not
related to a public hearing on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING
PDP 91-11/NR 91-8 PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A SECOND UNIT ON A R-2B LOT AT 840 FIFTEENTH
STREET.
Recommended Action: To approve said Precise Development Plan.
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Mr. Schubach gave the Staff Report, stating Staff recommended
APPROVAL subject to Conditions. He described the property lot,
current building and proposed construction of 76% of replacement
value and discussed the existing nonconforming side yard setback.
He stated two necessary minor plan corrections noted by the
Building Department are included as Conditions of Approval: ( 1)
the rear-unit deck space is more than 50% covered and ( 2) the
mezzanine floor area exceeds 1/3 of the room below. The _applicant
has indicated he will correct both.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:05 p.m.
Robert Garstein, project architect, 2175 w. 236th Street, stated he
and the applicant had reviewed and agreed with the Conditions,
presenting plan changes to the Commission for review. Commissioner
Marks noted the rear retaining wall was on an adjacent neighbor's
property. Mr. Garstein stated the wall belonged to the neighbor
and discussed a drafting error on the drawings.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:09 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to APPROVE the
application with the Conditions stipulated in the Staff Report.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
HEARINGS
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chinn. Ketz
None
None
None
CON 89-8 A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
#20620 FOR A THREE-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 1344 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
Recommended Action: To grant six-month extension.
Mr. Schubach stated the Planning Commission had previousiy approved
six-month extensions for similar properties and believed it appro-
priate to grant this extension.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:11 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:11 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Merl, to approve a
six-month extension of this application.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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SS 91-5 EXAMINATION OF THE PROBLEM OF VAPORS AND ODORS DUE TO
THE OPERATION OF BUSINESSES AND STUDY OF POSSIBLE METHODS FOR
ALLEVIATING THE PROBLEM.
Recommended Action: To direct staff to set for public hearing.
Mr. Schubach discussed Staff's conclusions, noting decisions would
be based upon a case-by-case basis. He noted the difficulties in
obtaining A.Q.M.D. inspectors in a timely manner to their office
location, the limited number of inspectors, the difficulty in
determining objectionable odors, limitations on emission levels and
compliance means selection by business owners. He stated if the
City decided to mandate the emissions, ~otential pitfalls do exist,
which he explained. He stated the Chief Prosecutor's Office had
indicated that any local procedural regulations could potentially
create a conflict. The City could enroll Staff Members in the
A.Q.M.D. violation training courses at no cost, but limit staff
training to only emissions produced from local operations, or
obtain an outside consultant funded by an special impact fee, to
assist the A.Q.M.D. staff. He then discussed the method of fines
and regulatory procedures, with the City working closely with the
A.Q.M.D. Staff. He stated this program is a new concept, the City
of Hermosa Beach would be a "Guinea pig'', and the A.Q.M.D. Staff is
very enthusiastic.
Mr. Schubach discussed the methods of odor determination with Comm.
Marks. Comm. Di Monda determined the trained City Staff would
carry out the enforcement, with Mr. Schubach suggesting the trained
personnel be from the Fire, Planning and Building Departments, with
the Planning Department holding the responsibility due to
businesses having C.U.P.s. Comm. Di Monda noted the projected
paint-booth conversion figures of $25,000 and $40,000 and requested
clarification prior to the Commission making a decision.
Additionally, Comm. Di Monda requested additional information be
obtained as to what is involved in training, equipment, type of
A.Q.M.D. assistance, procedures, how many forecasted calls per day
will be received by the City, the cost to the City and the impact
on local businesses. Cornms. Merl and Di Monda discussed the
equipment needs and staff training with Mr. Schubach. Comm. Merl
discussed his concern relating to the fact that no quantifiable
devices used, noting that objective criteria would need to be
established. Comm. Suard discussed the extent the City would take
enforcement with Mr. Schubach. Chmn. Ketz stated more information
must be obtained and presented prior to the Commission making a
decision.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:31 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:31 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to DIRECT Staff
to obtain and present to the Commission more information relating
to the cost, impact fees, training and enforcement areas of this
proposed Special Study.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coffllns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
PS 91-4 POLICY STATEMENT REGARDING DESIGN OF CONDOMINIUMS AND
RESIDENTIAL PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN REGARDS TO OPEN SPACE AND
BASEMENTS.
Recommended Action: To adopt the policy statement.
Mr. Schubach stated the Commission had directed Staff to prepare
Policy Statements addressing concerns relating to designer
residential projects relating to open space. He stated these
guidelines and general policies relate to basements, grade levels
and open spaces to include roof decks, courtyards and areas
adjacent to primary living areas. He also defined an additional
proposed statement applying to the design and layout of extra rooms
commonly located on ground floors.
Comm. Di Monda felt a Text Amendment should be made for Items A and
B. He did not agree with Item C in that he felt bath and laundry
facilities shou ld be allowable, upon Commission's review and
approval, within a bottom floor (basement). Chmn. Ketz felt that
full bathrooms should not be allowed and felt a Policy Statement
was more appropriate than a Text Amendment. Comm. Marks expressed
his concern regarding "vagueness" and felt that enough criteria
should be included to assist the designer and alleviate any "boot
legs". Mr. Schubach noted all the issues will reappear as future
Text Amendments when reviewed as a part of HIP. Comm. Suard
disagreed with the concept of determining a basement, feeling the
height limit requirement was adequate, the Commission should be
determining second-floor exit requirements, not whether a floor is
a basement or first floor. Comm. Marks noted the natural grade
prevails in the determination of a basement, to which the
Commission agreed.
Public Hearing opened by Chmn. Ketz at 7:44 p.m.
No one wished to address the Commission regarding this matter.
Public Hearing closed by Chmn. Ketz at 7:44 p.m.
MOTION by Comm. Di Monda, seconded by Comm. Suard, to APPROVE as
Policy Statements Item A as written, request Staff investigate
Redondo Beach's similar situations and. decisions, wait for H.I.P.,
at which time this would be included or written in as a Text
Amendment; ADOPT Item B as a Policy as written; APPROVE Item C
after striking the last sentence relating to nonallowance of
laundry facility, thereby allowing laundry facilities in a
basement.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Coffllns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
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STAFF ITEMS
a. "Designing Without a Blueprint" --an article in Los Angeles
Times for Planning Commission's information from Councilman
Edgerton.
Chmn. Ketz stated this article discusses the lack of design
standards and control within Los Angeles. She stated Hermosa Beach
has a lot more design controls. Comm. Suard agreed with the
article that old, beautiful buildings are being replaced by
"boxes", feeling that the City of Hermosa Beach should rethink its
policies relating to the redesign of the older buildings.
b. Correspondence and ·response regarding the fence height along
Valley Drive at 2830 -2832 Ingleside Drive.
Mr. Schubach explained the property was sided by three streets with
the nonconforming wall not substantially impacting the neighbor-
hood. He requested a Variance due to the unusual lot. He
discussed the owner's cost in relocating the wall and the fact the
new wall exceeded the maximum allowable height. He requested
direction from the Planning Commission.
Chmn. Ketz noted this common occurrence of walls in that area.
Comm. Di Monda felt it should be decided if walk streets were
streets or part of the park system and noted the "side yard" in
question was actually a back yard. He felt a Text Amendment
specifically addressing that type of lot and covering the walk
street situation should be initiated, with a case-by-case
determination as to whether yards were side or back yards. He felt
the existing wall should be allowed to remain with landscaping
required. Comm. Merl agreed a Text Amendment is required.
Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Di Monda discussed establishing a baseline
determination of existing fencing in this area. Mr. Lee suggested
the presumption is that lots facing a walk street has an adjacent
front yard, when that might not be the case and that perhaps a Text
Amendment to eliminate walk streets as the front of the house is
appropriate and that landscaping not be a Condition until a Text
Amendment were adopted. Comm. Merl felt a retroactive Policy
Amendment should be established. Comm. Di Monda felt Staff to
review the three-sided lots. Chmn. Ketz felt all lots on fronting
on Valley Drive should be reviewed. The Commission discussed the
existence of nonconforming fences and the manner to control future
building, determining that a listing of existing fences should be
made for future reference. Mr. Lee commented that the property
owner should be noticed that his fence is in violation of the City
Municipal Code at the present time~ although action is not being
currently taken, this fence could be subject to future enforcement.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to DIRECT Staff
to develop a Text Amendment dealing with the issue of the three-
sided lots and lots, in general, that front along Valley Drive in
terms of the fencing, and REQUEST that auring the study period a
moratorium on enforcement be in effect until the end of the study
period.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Com1ns. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard and Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
c. Planning Department activity report of November, 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
d. Memorandum regarding Planning Com1nission liaison for January
28, 1992 City Council meeting.
Comm. Di Monda stated he probably would attend and speak on Item #2
at the meeting, requesting that when a denial appeal is presented,
the Commission receive Staff's recommendation prior to the hearing.
Mr. Schubach stated that if and when Staff had a recommendation,
the Commission would be made aware of it, discussing the difficulty
due to changes made by the applicant. Comm. Di Monda felt the
appeal should be made to the Commission before being presented at
the City Council meeting, to which Chmn. Ketz and Comm. Merl
agreed, with Chmn. Ketz DIRECTING Staff to forward such recommenda-
tions to the Commission, to which Mr. Schubach agreed, if they are
available. The Commission and Mr. Schubach discussed a previous
application denied by the Commission and presented to the City
Council. Mr. Lee stated nothing prevents an applicant's correction
of problems and addressing the Commission's concerns to the City
Council on the appeal, with Staff identifying the considerations
for project approval. He stated at that point in time, it was a
function of the City Council to make the decision to approve, deny
or refer the matter back to the Planning Commission.
e. Tentative future Planning Com1nission Agenda.
Comm. Di Monda asked about the Green Belt project. Mr. Schubach
stated he has contacted Public Works Department, and will do so
again. Comm. Suard asked if the City Council/School District/
Planning Commission March meeting was being addressed. Mr Schubach
stated that two meeting dates were proposed. He will confirm the
dates for the Commission.
f. City Council minutes of December 10, 12 and 23, 1991.
RECEIVE AND FILE.
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Di Monda asked about the Hermosa Hotel temporary banner to
which Mr. Schubach responded the banner had been approved as a
permanent sign. After discussion, the Commission felt the banner
should not have been approved as a permanent sign, should be
removed, and DIRECTED Staff to present this issue to the City
Manager's Office, then, guides could be _presented in terms of the
application of the Code. The Commission .also agreed a Text
'Amendment to move the regulation for signs within the Zoning Code
and provide for the Commission's ultimate regulation of the signs
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prohibit permanent banners in the City should be initiated; with
banners being allowed for a 30-day period only.
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to DIRECT a
letter to the City Manager to the effect the Commission has become
aware of what we believe is a violation of the sign ·ordinance by
definition; a sign that is defined as temporary, by definition,
obtained permanent approval, and the Commission would appreciate an
administrative review.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Di Monda, Marks, Merl, Suard, Chmn. Ketz
None
None
None
Comm. Di Monda asked for progress relating to a previous building
C.U.P. application, to which Mr. Schubach stated he would review
and report status to the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Comm. Merl, seconded by Comm. Di Monda, to adjourn at
8:46 p.m. No objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of January 21,
1992.
Christ~ne Ketz,-Chairman
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Michael Schubach, Secretary
Date
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