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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1961_05_08MINUTES OF THE RIDULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, held at the City Hall, Hermosa Beach, Califorria, May 8, 1961, 7:30 PoMo ROIJ, CALL -Present ... Comm. Locken, Hales, Black, Fredrlfks, Johnson and • Chairman Viault. Absent ~ Comm. Nobleo Present -Bud M~ Trott, Chief Building Inspector. (Comm. Noble took his place at the beginning of the discussion on Item 2..) The Chairman called the meeting t0 order, and on motion by Comm.. Fredricks; seconded by Comm. Locken, minutes of the regular meeting of April 10, 1961, were unanimously approved. STEWART REALTY ... Review of Parking in R.;.P Zone Letter from Building·Inspector requesting review of proposed parking lot on R.;;J> property, L.ots 5, 6, 7 and a portion of 8, Walter Ransom Company's Redondo Home Tract, to be· constructed by Stewart Realty adjacent to their office at 1208 G-ould Avenue, situated on Lot Bo Mr. Greg Stewart was present to speak on behaJ..f of his request. An encroachment permit for ingress and egress from the lot to Gould Avenue has been procured from the State Highway Department., he said. The property is presently used for parking purposes in conjunction wi.1lh his business, but it is bis desire to grade and pave the land~ ·The sketch submitted did not include a detailed layout of the proposed parking •. Attention was called to Section 1115 of the zoning ordinance requiring review by the• Planning Commission and approval as to location of parking lots in R-3 or R~P zones. It was pointed out that this was not required parking, since the building now existed, and there was considerable discussion as to whether or not applicant should be asked to submit a detailed parking layout. Mr. Stewart insisted that the element of time was to be considered and that he was anxious to develop the property. Camm. Fredricks (prefacing his motion by the remark that citizens have a right to rely on the requirements of the zoning ordinance, and if the Commission does not agree, then it is the Commission's duty to amend the ordinance) moved that a pat'king lot be allowed at this particular address, J.208 Gould Avenue, that the review required by Section 1115 of the ordinance would indicate that the location is proper for a parking lot for this establishment, Comm. Black seconded this motion, which carried as fQllows: AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Comm, Locken, Hales, Black, Fredricks and Noble. Comm. JQhnson and Chairman Viault. None. Conun.. Fredricks then moved that a letter be directed to the Building Inspector advising that it is the official interpretation of the Planning Connnission of Section 1115 that hereafter such approYal. that the Commission gives in regard· to Section 1115 shal.l include not only location, landscaping, trees and shrubs, but also the layout for ingress and egress and turning radius with complete parking layout. Conm. Noble seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. .Planning Commission 2 May a, 1961 F.H.ROBFBTSON ~ R-3 Status of Lot 182 Hiss Addition Letter from F. R.('ltobertson, owner of Lot 18, Hiss Addition, requesting use ·of this lot for multiple apartments, and advising that a survey showed this lot to be 39.95' wide in lieu of 40' shown on tract map. Mr. Robertson was present speaking on. behalf of his petition. The Building Inspector stated that there are three different surveys, possibly 6' of disputed area within the 18 lots of this tract on Loma Drive. Attention was cal.led to the recent professional survey of this area for planning purposes which determined that the area was already overcrowded. The feeling was expressed that if the Commissioners believed the R...3 use too heavy, the lots should be rezoned. Motion was made by Chairman Viault that a letter be directed to the Building Department stating that it is the opinion of the Planning Commission that Lot 18, Hiss Addition, be considered as a· standard 40' wide lo:t., in lieu of the .05' shortage now shown by survey drawings, for the reason that for all intent and purposes, it is an R~3 lot, .it is 40' wide and 5/8" is not of a significant size to have ~-bearing on the discussion. Comm. Black seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. REPORT ON BEACH F ACII.UTIES STUDY MEETINGS Comm. Noble, Chairman of the BeJ:Lch E~ciil ties /Committee, c~mprised of the whole Commission, reported on the May 1 meeting witnrepresentatives of interested groups of citizens; advising that it was the basic feeling of those present that, first.of all, private property should not be acquired for this use, and secondly, it was felt by the representatives of the citizens as a whole that if beach convenience facilities were promulgated in Hermosa Beach, they definitely should be in the sand west of the Strand. Comm. ·Noble said, in his opinion, another meeting should be held with these groups, the discussion had developed on possible sites, but nothing had been established as to whether there should be any facilities, and he furthermore believed same representatives from the local high schools should be invited to attend and be heard, since the teenagers form the beach crowds to a large extent. Mayor delroot was present and announced that a group of citizens at the 22nd Street location wished to :present a proposal., which could be submitted if another meeting with these groups were held, stating his belief that all of these items should be in the record. Any decision made should be based upon a full and complete study, including the financial aspects and the possibility of facilities being constructed at the south end of Manhattan Beach, eliminating the need for one at the north end of Hermosa Beach. He suggested minimal provisions rather than maxi.mum, with emphasis on the commercial district, in an attempt to keep people more centrally located. Asked by Comm. Black if tideland funds could be used, the Mayor said this would have to be· investigated. Hermosa Beach would have to maintain and police the facilities, he added, suggesting that the Commission might consider contacting the County to see what the County might do that would be acceptable to Hermosa Beach. Whether to hold more study meetings with citizens, to formulate definite opinions prior to holding public hearings, the time element involved in coming to a decision., the need at the present time, the advisability of investigating what other cities having similar problems have done, hiring a professional consultant were points considered, Mr. TomStevens of the Citizens Advisory Committee taking part in the discussion. It was Mr. Stevens suggestion that a citizens group similar to the Citizens Advisory Committee be established to aid in planning, Planning Commission 3 May 8, 1961 Comm. Fredricks moved that the subcommittee continue to function as charged originally by the Chairman of the Planning Commission, under Mr. Noble, exploring other avenues to gather information including the possibility of getting expert help, the possibility of sending letters by the Building Department to other cities to inquire what they have done with regard to this problem, contacting j;he County to see what the aspects are there, and reporting the findings to the Chairmano Commo Black seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. . ' . . . . SE~TION 217 ... Interpretation of Single 2 Two-Family Dwelling The Chairman asked that Item 7 be considered prior to Items 5 and 6. The Building Inspector has requested an interpretation of the definition of a single., two-family dwelling, and whether two separate units connected by a roofed patio should be considered one structure for the purposes of zoning. On motion by Commo Locken, seconded by Comm. Fredricks, it was unanimously agreed that Section 217 shall be interpreted to mean a structure whose common wall separating the two units shall be at least SO% of the allowable width of the structure. It was agreed to postpone discussion on a general plan until May 15, 1961, at which time a special meeting is to be held for a public hearing on John T. Shaw and Philip G. Shaw application for zone change of south 50' of Lot 9 and all of Lot 10, Block 81, Second Addition to Hermosa Beach, from M-zone to R-30 ADJOURNMENT AT 10:15 p.m. r