HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1961_08_21MINUTES OF AN·ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CIT~F HERMOSA BEACH, held at the City Hall at 7:30 p.m., Monday, August 21, 1961. ROLL CALL: Present -Comm. Noble, Johnson; Viault, Black, Hales, and Locken; Bud M. Trott,Cbief Building Inspector. Absent ~ Chairman Fredricks. In the absence of Chairman Fredricks, Vice Chairman Hales presided. He explained the purpose-of this adjourned meeting was for the Co!Dlll.lssion to decide whether a m;~rise, high,.,density zone· shou.Ld be added to the zom.ng ordinance. A letter from Mr. Thomas L. Stevens, Chairman of the Citizens for Private Domain, was presented, and after some discussion on whether or not to open the public hearing, which had been closed at the August 14 meeting, it was decided that the ~etter should be read and a period of 30 minutes given over to hear those who had not been pres~nt at the earlier meeting or those who had new m.ateria:t. to present. Mr. John Schmo:Ue asked who would be allowed to speak, and i.t was agreed to hear only property owners within the city, whether business or residentia.1, and voting citizens. Thereu_pon, Mr. Stevens was asked to read the .1etter submitted by him, at the concJ.usion ot· which, at 8 :00 p.ni., the meeting wa~ open~d to the pubiic for a hru.r hour. By unanimous vote, on motion . by Comm~ Viault, seconded by Comm. Johnson, the letter was received and filed. Mrs0 David Burt, ll52-7th Street --no actual facts concerning cost· to taxpayers have came forth. Has been advised that taxes from the Mamie, Inc. J proposal. for schools is a misrepresentation. Also questioned cooperative-type buildings and operation of the motel, auditorium and shops. Felt this should be clearly stated for the benefit of the taxpayers. Connn. Viault answered that this was not pertinent, since the Commission was not considering the specific develop-ment of Mr. Moran but deciding whether or not to include a higlwrise zone in the ordinance. Mrs. Burt's argument was that it was the Moran request that started this investigation, a~d that it was his proposed development that was persuading the people, Mr. Karl Raife, 145 Lyndon, said that he lived in the shadow of the developmant and was interested in how the density is determined; It was explained that if the Commission decided to proceed with the study, they would spell out the details and decide how far up and what lana coverage, etc., following which they would follow the normal procedure and have the proper public hearingso Mrs . .Evangeiine Piuggj 1831 Hillcrest -approves developmenta Mr. Mark Harding -Questioned propriety of displaying proposed development of Mamie, Inc., if Commission is not considering this specific proposal. Great deal of money cir~ulating in widely separated areas in the city based upon the possibility of a high-,rise zone. There will be no stopping it and it will not be confined to one locality. Mr. ·Hayes, ll.7 Ardmore.-. approves high-rise, feeling trere is no other way but~!. up~ Mr. Kaufman, 1937 Bay View Drive• opposes proposal. Mentioned density'of population al.ready in Hermosa Beach; would like to keep city small_, residential town. Had circulated a petition opposing a proposed high-rise at 15th Street and the StrandJ and only seven people out of the 160 contacted had refused to sign his petition, and feels that matter should be put to a vote of tht!fPeopleo Mr. Glassburg, 1816 Hermosa Avenue -does not believe a single development should be approved without an adequate master plan and study;6f areas in the city; proposed plan is overbuilt; not necessarily in favor of single-family development, but believes adequate master plan should decide areas for high-rise.
Planning Commission 2 August 21, 1961 Roy Stennett, 45 Pacific Coast Highway -businessman and property owner in Herm:>sa Beach~ believes the city needs the income and approved the project. ~-J. Hoyer, 174 Lyndon Street -asked that letter he had previously written to Commission be read. In his letter he questioned the water runoff, the effect of smoke and fumes from the Edison plant on·the tenants3 the effect on TV reception for citizens west of the buildings, the ability of the area to support such structures, the possible sea infiltration into the underground parking, the usable and accessible garage space, the widening of Herondo Street, and the precedent set in allowing one such development, feeling that an R~P or R~3 would be better zoning for the Moran property. • Mr. Mike ·Raftis, 1232-3rd Street -asked to clarify ndsrepresentation regarding taxes for schools from the proposed development. Explained that schools receive part of their income from taxes, and the State has an equalization tax making up any difference. If the assessment tax is increased, the equaJ.ization tax goes down, so that the schools do not actually get any more money., The high.-rise development will cost the schools more if there are children in the buildings. _ . . out Mr, Jilil Goff, 210 Pacific Coast Highway -city cannot exist wi tly' income from businesses and cannot exist on private homes alone. Vice Chairman Hales closed the hearing at 8 :30 p·.m. He stated that the discussion at this meeting and the previous meeting at ClarkStadium was a voluntary action on the part of the Connnission and not required-public hearings, that·if any action is taken requiring public hearings, trny will be forthcoming, and everyone will have an opportunity to be heardo Comm. Viault moved that the Conunission continue to study the creatiol)Pf a new zone with the intent and purpose of coming up with thefequired technical data neceswary to advertise for a resolutiol}Of intention. The motion was seconded by Comm. Black. There followed a discussion amongst the Conmissioners per,., taining to the course of action to be pursued. The motion carried by the following vote : AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Connn.. Noble, Viaul t., Black, Locken and Vice Chairman Hales. Comm. Johnson. Chairman Fredricks·. In voting "no", Collllll. Johnson stated that he did not know of any area in Hermosa Beach that would stand this ty-pe of development; some day it may come, but the only way he can see is by condemnation of a lot of property in order to provide adequate streets. Other things can be taken care of, but we must remember we are having a vdry favorable picture presented to us of all the money we are going to get. We have a specific area for which this zone is proposed, which consists of 7½ acres. However, the proposed population density is fantastic and out of line, adding that he did not know where this zone l'muld fit in Hermosa Beach at the present timeQ
Planning Commission 3 August 21, 1961 Vice Chairman Hales called attention to a letter submitted by Comm. Viault to each of the Commissioners covering a number of pt)ints discussed at the hearing, including a draft of what he feels is a reasonable R-4 zone. Studying the draft carefully and comparing it with recoIIDnendations previously made by a professional consultant, Vice Chairman Hales thought it quite an adequate proposition and recollllllended that it be considered a preliminary draft to be reviewed by the city staff and possibly by a planning consultant. He moved that the draft prepared by Commo Viault be sent to the City Manager with the direction that he discuss it with his technical staff to obtain their rec{)]lli,,( mendations and prepa.!'2 development standards, reporting back to the Commission at the next favorable timeo Further discussion. led ~i-0:e.Cmd:cman Hales to withdraw this motion. He then moved that Connn. Viault's letter of IAupst 17 be received and filed. Comm. Noble seconded the motion, which carried as follows: AYES: NOES: PASS: ABSENT: Comm. Noble, Johnson, Bl~ck, Locken and Vice Ch.airman Hales. None. CollDll. Viault. Chairman Fredricks. --A motion was then made by Vice Chairman Hales that Comm. Viault' s letter of August 17 with the enclosed proposed addition to Ordinan~e Nos. 154 regarding R-4 be submitted to the City Manager for bim and his technical staff to review, reporting their reconmendations back to the Comni.ssion. Comm. Black seconded the motion. There was considerable discussion following the motion. ColIUll. Viault said that·this rough draft included a minimum required lot area of 15,000 square feet, but fel~ after listening to bthe various speakers and re-viewing in his own mind, that tbis area might -t;JMf small and should be trippled in its size to preclude .a nibbling away effect which has been indicated. This is a first draft and subject to change. It was agreed it was best to have the city staff review the -proposal and submit re comnendati ons before considering a planning consultant, and further that there should be a specific date set for the submission of their reports. Comm. Black withdrew bis second, and the original motion was amended by Vice Chairman. Hales by adding that the reconmendations·be submitted to the Commission at the next regular meeting on September 11, 1961G Comm. Black then seconded the motion, which carried unanimously~ • ADJOURNMENT at 9:10 p.m. r