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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1962_02_19MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED MEEI'ING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, held at the City Hall on Monday, February 19, 1962, at 7:30 p.m. ROLL CALL ... Present ... Comm. Noble, Johnson, Viault, Hai.es and Chairman Fredricks. R-3 SURVEY Bud M. Trott, Chief ~lding Ins~ector. John E. Stevens, City Engineer. Absent M Connn. Black and Locken. The Building Inspector submitted a partial survey of property zoned R-3, compiled in his office in response to a request by the Commission on · December 11, 1961. This survey had bee~,desired in order to assist the Commission in arriving at a proper lot area requirement for the RM3 zone. It was the feeling of the Commission that the material presented would not serve its purpose, and the Chairman directed that this particular aspect of the project be stopped, and that the matter be placed back on the agenda for a workshop or public_ hearing. ZONING -SOUTHWEST PORTION OF CITY Consideration of southwest portion of ·Hermosa Beach relative to request to City Council for funds to employ professional consultant for assistance in proper zoning in relation to harbor development. Discussing boundaries of the area to be studied, the City Engineer said the alignment to the east of Ardmore has not been definitely settled and that there would probably be some compromise between Redondo Beach and Hermosa Beach, Herondo probably splitting the two towns. Comm. Viault suggested including property as far east as necessary to encompass the lands adjacent to our projected road system in the Ardmore-Valley area. The City Engineer advised some attention had been given these roadways, but a re-alignment would depend somewhat on the use of the Mamie, Inc., land, wluch has been before the Commission for some months. Comm. Johnson suggested the east boundary to be Pacific Coast Highway, and Comm. Noble agreed that a plan or study should go'farther than that proposed for Second and Valley or Second and Hermosa, including the influence on the proximity. Chairman Fredricks felt that any study should include the north side of Second Street, and information regarding the effect of the harbor development on this part of town including traffic, the type of use the harbor i s liable to be put to, the type of services and things of that nature that might follow the harbor development; whether the land zoned f!=)r :manufacturing would have any bean ng in relation to the harbor development. Anticipating that there might be some objection to doing anything as lax-ge as this, what would the minimum requirements be that would satisfy the Commission, Cormn. Viault asked. Chairman Fredricks mentioned one minimum as relates to the effect of the harbor on this part of town,. Comm. Viault asked if there could be precise planning for only• two or three block areas, the beach to Hermosa Avenue, or to Ardmore Avenue, or Manhattan Avenue, would this be sufficient? The Chairman answered that if these limited areas were all that c.ould be studied, he would stil l want to know the answers. It boils down to the fact, Co:rnm. Hales said, that we are asking a planning consultant to work on this area and define the best use in relation to the harbor; the consultant through his study would detennine what would be Planning Commission 2 Jebruary 19, 1962 Zoning -Southwest Area Contd good, potential use of this land, traffic being one problem that would be involved. The Commission should be fairly specific, according to Comm. ViaultTs opinion, at least in a general overtone as to the density of development desired, giving some direction on the type of development the Commission feels the city is interested in having., One limiting factor would be to say that the present ordinance would goverri9 having the 3--story height in mind, Comm. Hales said. C onun. Vi aul t said this might be premature, but eventually, whether the city staff or professional planners assisted the Commission, it would be necessary to delineate for these people. Comm. Johnson questioned if it is the Commission's purpose primarily to get some idea of what might be needed in the vicinity of the harbor and whether it can be fitted into what is in this area, or whether, after the findings, some of the land should be changed to a potential classification. Coimn. Noble felt because of the requests for zone changes and variances in the area, the Commission needs to know the feasibility of any proposed zone changes in the area and its proximity, and an intelligent, planned, predetermined method of approaching these areas £s necessary in order for the Conmrl.ssion to have adequate and unbiased opinions concerning some of the-requests that have been presented to the Commission. And, Chairman Fredricks., added, this would allow alternatives as to how to go on what is there nmf and how it lends itself to whatever is suggested. Chairman Fredricks asked if it would not be proper, in drafting a letter to the City Council, to say that the Commission feels there is a need to have an intensive study along the lines that have been suggested, and that the Commission requests that the Council consider the use of the city staff on the basis of their availability and what that cost would be to the city, or as an alternative, seek outside help. We are saying we would like to have this, and that this type of study would be of valua to anyone on the Commission if it could be made available. '1 The Chairman opened the meeting to the public, Mr. Tom Stevens being the first to speak. As a represen~ative of the Citizens for Private Domain group, Mr. Steyens opposed obtaining outside consultants. The existing zoning was apparently designed for an essentially residential ~omnrunity and might need a second .look because of the harbor situation, but his group feared an outside planner would be the first step in the wrong direction~ Mr. Philip Matson, 2420 Hermosa Avenue, voiced his opinion that any traffic survey would have to be made in the summer, that the harbor is now only one~eighth developed, and that the remainder of the development has not yet been decided, and any survey made of the Hermosa Beach area on the basis of the harbor at this time might be completely useless after the harbor is finished. Speaking later on during the meeting, Mr. Matson mentioned the marine manufacturers coming from the east and ~ooking for manufacturing land close to harbor areas. Planning Connnission 3 February 19, 1962 Zoning~ Southwest Area Contd Mr. Carl J. Hoyers 174 Lyndon Street, reaction was that the Commission should not plan for one man's property but for the City of Hermosa Beach. His interest is in building a residence on property included in that under discussion and would like to see the city move ahead and settle some of these matters. Mrs~ Dorothy Sterrett, 97 Hermosa Avenue, asked what the suggested plan entailed and whether property owners would have anything to say as to ::-2 what would be done with their property. ChJrirman Fredricks assured her that this would not contemplate the ·confiscation of anyone's property and was in no way connected with a master plan;which is an entirely different thing including city wide studies, economic surveys, etc. Mr. Hugo Lizza thought it might be ill advised at tbi s time to come Jup .with something that would deviate from the present zoning ordinance. Mrs. Louise Kline asked that thought be given to the possibility of the Mamie, Inc., land being used for a high school, since one of the pl.ms for the unification of high schools did not include Hermosa Beach~ Comm. Viault moved that the information that has come before the Commission this evening be compiled and presented to the members of the Commission for action at the next regular meeting. The ·motion was unanimously approved on second by Comm. Hales. OFFSTREET PARKING ORDINANCE Attention was given a draft of~ proposed offstreet parking ordinance, and after discussion and decisions on approximately half the draft, the Chairman directed that this item be<lplaced on the March 12 agenda as the last item. ADJOURNMENT AT 10:45 p.m.