HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1983_03_15MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON
MARCH 15, 1983, IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 7:30.
Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M. By Chairman Peirce
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Cornms. Brown, Peirce, -Shapiro, Smith
ABSENT: Cornms. Izant, Loosli, Strohecker
ALSO PRESENT: Pamela Sapetto, Planning Director; Alfred Mercado,
Planning Aide; Mr. Castenada, TDC Planning
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Comm Smith pointed out that on page 2 the word "proviso" was mis
spelled.
Motion by Chrmn Peirce, seconded by Comm Shapiro, to approve the
minutes noting the above correction.
AYES: Comms. Brown, Peirce, Shapi,ro, Smith
NOES: None
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE REQUEST: STORER CABLE
Mr. Mercado gave the staff report. He stated that the site for this
proposal is one where the land use element of the general plan and
the zoning ordinance are inconsistent in what they allow as permit
ted uses. The zoning ordinance designates this site as manufacturing
while the general plan designates this site as open space.
He stated further that the subject property is presently occupied by
a commercial development and has been utilized for cornmericial pur
poses for several years. The implementation of the proposed actions
would not introduce any change to the physical environment. He added
that under the present zoning, industrial uses are permitted. Uses
of this intensity may adversely affect adjacent residential and pub
lic uses. The proposed C-2 zoning and general plan commercial would
provide greater compatibility with adjacent development. Furthermore,
state law requires that the city zoning ordinances be consistent with
local general plans.
He stated that with respect to the conditional use permit for the 'l00'
tower, it is not clear if the tower is an allowable use in a C2 zone.
However, there is a provision in the Zoning Code that grants to the
Planning Commission the authority to approve uses, which in the
commission's opinion are not obnoxious, hazardous or detrimental to
the welfare of the district, etc.
He added that it should be considered whether the exi~.:1:!ence of such
a tower will diminish land value of the surrounding properties, and
thereby unjustly affect substantial vested rights of such property
owners.
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He stated that it was staff's recommendation that the proposed
general plan amendment and zone change be approved and that the
request for a conditional use permit for the 100 foot tower be
considered through the authority granted under Sec. 800-C. He
added that the 100' tower, when considered by the environmental
review board, was issued a negative declaration. Which in
essence means that no measurable adverse environmental impact
will be felt. Therefore, the Commission's decision on the tower
should be guided by its compatability with its environment and
its contribution to the community.
In answer to Comm Smith's question Ms. Sapetto stated that in
the general plan staff found that as far as open space was
concerned, it -appeared that most of the open space areas were
adjacent to schools.
In answer to a question from the audience, Chrmn Peirce stated that
the applicant's proposal ·.was to change the general plan from open
space to commercial, and the zoning from manufacturing to general
commercial, C-2
Public hearing was opened by Chrmn Peirce. He added that the hear
ing would take testimony on ·the zone change and general plan, then
if that passes, he will reopen the hearing and take testimony on
the Conditional Use Permit. The commission agreed that the two
issues should be dealt with separately.
Ron Miller, Phoenix Arizona, representing the applicant Storer Cable
stated that at the request of the planning staff the applicant hired
an independant planning consultant to do a study of the property as
to what the issues were relative to rezoning the property from a
manufacturing to a commercial zone, and changing the general plan
to a commercial plan. He added that the applicant had contracted with
TDC; with the planning staff setting the requirements of the study
and the applicant provid i ngthe economic resources. From the report
TDC indicated that there would be no major negative impact from re
zoning the parcel, as its existing use will not change.
In answer to. ·Chrmn Peirce's question, Mr. Miller stated that the con
struction of the tower was the reason why applicant was requesting
the zone change
Wilma Bird, 1152 7th Street, Hermosa Beach, stated that the reason
for the open ·space zoning was that the School Board had talked about
condemning that property and taking it to enlarge the Valley Vista
School. The School District intended to use that area. However,
now since the District is not going to use it, it doesn't make any
difference what it is called, except in what you permit next to the
mobile park. For example, manufacturing is noisy, with commericial
being less so.
Public hearing was closed by Chrmn Peirce.
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Chrmn Peirce stated that the report from TDC was not specifically
labled as being from the applicant, and said that in the future it
would be a good idea to designate that with a cover letter or some
other form of identification.
Comm Smith asked if the School District had been notified of this
hearing. Chrmn Peirce added that it would help the Commission if
in the future staff would provided them with more information re
noticing.
Ms. Sapetto -responded by saying that the reason why -the list of
persons notified for hearings is not included in the packet is that
it is usually 10 to 15 pages long. Comm. Smith stated that it is
not necessary that the Commission be given the entire list, but that
the particular noticing procedure followed should be contained in
the body of the staff report, so the commission would know and could
say with confidence to the public that the proper noticing procedqre
has been followed. He felt that this would save everyone a lot of
time. Ms. Sapetto agreed.
Ms. Sapetto stated in response to Comm Smith's question,as to whether
the School District had been notified of this hearing, that they had
not been noticed. She explained that the reason was that according
to case law, the courts have established and _defined proper noticing
as that noticing that is prepared from the tax rolls. The School
District is not on the tax rolls, nor is any public agency.
Chrmn Peirce stated that if the School District were riot right next
to the property in question, noticing to them would not be as ger
mane, but since it is right next to it, he felt the District has a
positive interest in this case. He recommended that the District
be noticeq and that the hearing be continued to the next meeting. He
apologized to the applicant for the d~lay.
Mr. Miller suggested that since there is an appeal time, that the
commission come to ·a decision tonight, and then the District could
appeal the decision if they were opposed. Ms. Sapetto stated that
that would cause a problem, since if the applicant is accused of de
fective noticing it invalidates the whole process; if the Planning
Commission review is not conducted in a legal format, it invalidates
the proceedings.
Ms. Sapetto added, in response to Comm Shapiro's question, that
technically this was legal notification because of the use of the
tax rolls. However, if there is a question as to whether legal
notification took place, and since the District is the nextdoor
neighbor, it could jeopardize the procedure. She added that through
the Environmental Review process, the District got a copy of the EIR,
but that would be indirect notification.
In answer to Comm Brown's question, Ms. Sapetto stated that all pro
perty owners within a 300' radius of the proposed project need to
receive mailed notification.
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Mr. Miller _stated that Storer Cable is not trying to get around
notification and wants to work with the community on this.
Comm Smitl:,1 stated that in regards to the staff report, he had sug
gested during the last discussion on this item that staff include
in its report an analysis with respect to whether or not Storer is
meeting the public access provisions of their contract with the city
and whether or not, in staff's opinion, they are providing a satis
factory level of service to the citizens. He also wanted to know
if Storer would be able to pass on an increase to its consumers tied
to this particular capital improvement. He stated that he would like
to be relatively sure Storer is in compliance with the existing agree
ment when voting on this issue or any other issue related to them.
REVISED HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN
Mr. Casteneda gave the staff report. He stated that the material
presented ton:Lqht includecl another sect:Lon of the housing element
toqether w:Lth backqround information on bootlegs that had been re
quested by the Commission two '"t.meetings ago.
He stated that first the housing program is intended to provide an
opportunity to describe the specifications that the city intends to
undertake in order to address the community housing needs. The
section dealing with this topic is required by State Law. However,
the items which are included in that topic are left up to the dis
cretion of the city. Overall what is included in this section is
to demonstrate that the city is making the maximum practical efforts in
view of resources, etc., to the housing need. Briefly, staff has
divided the material into 3 sections; housing improvement, housing
production, and the affordability issue. Many of the specific items
are on-going, in the sense that they are already part of the city's
mode of operation and were included to demonstrate that the city is
doing something to address the particular issue.
He continued by saying that the first of these sub-sections is on
land use controls, page 4, re housing improvement incentives. This
is a summary of what ways, other than pouring money into housing,
that is available to encourage improvement. One suggestion is that
since people don't know exactly what some of the processes are or
the exact procedures, that perhaps a booklet explaining the impact
of zoning, etc., could broaden the scope of information to the con
sumer. Another suggestion is the use of the administrative variance
in certain situations, i.e., dealing with setback requirements, et.
The administrative variance cuts down time and effort, in the sense
that notification is done by the city. And only adjacent property
owners, and not those within the 300' radius, are notified. Finally,
we want to link these to the potential for a residential rehab pro
gram through the use of block grant funds.
He added that another item which has been discussed before is deal
ing with where the city stands in terms of the quality of housing;
how much is deteriorating, what are the conditions dealing with boot-
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legs, etc. ONe of the future actions included for consideration
is to take the time over the next period of years or soorer to get
basic information on the quality of existing stock. Another po
tential action dealing with residential rehabilatation is that the
city may sometime in the future, through the use of block grant
funds, make resources available for handyman programs or low interest
loans to facilitate housing.
With respect to the bootlegs, staff has included a copy of the memo
that was transmitted to Commission and Council by the Building De
partment, which provides background information on the issue. Staff
also included a section from an early draft that went to the Commis
sion and Council about a year ago dealing with the topic. Finally,
for the purposes of illustration, the fact that this is an issue
which many coastal communities are dealing with, we included material
from the City of Laguna Beach. Because no new policy directions
were established at the joint work session of the Commission and
the Council in July, essentially staff has reiterated what the city
is currently doing and provided some additional direction in the
sense of streamlining.
He continued by saying that staff indicated that perhaps to devote
sufficient time to this particular topic, the Commission may want to
deal with this at a public hearing and perhaps bring in the Building
Department and City Attorney to explore ways of accomplishing the
issues in the city.
He stated that the second maj.or category deals with the amount of new
housing developments. Staff indicated some of the ways and means in
which the city currently addresses this. Briefly, staff indicated
the close relationship between the land use element and the housing
element in terms of amount of new housing concerned. The housing
element should not depart from what is in the land use element, it
should reinforce it.
He added that with regard to a potential action in terms of environ
mental assessment, that policy which was included in an earlier sec
tion dealing with a preference for environmental review of signifi
can~ programs at the neighborhood level, should receive priority.
There should be a preference to get involved in residential develop
ment when they have significant impact on a neighborhood scale.
He stated that with respect to growth forecasts, staff is attempt
ing to develop a program action which would address the amount of
new housing that could be built, starting from the neighborhood level
on. He added that new stats and numbers will be out around April 8
and that means that at that point it would be transmitted to the
city for review. There is a 90 day review period once they are
approved for distribution, then the city will have three months in
which to react. As soon as those numbers become available staff
and Commision should discuss it and see what its relationship is to
the city.
The next item deals with senior housing site availablity, and it
takes credit for past actions the city has taken in devoting re
sources to this area.
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Chrmn Peirce pointed out that there was some information missing
re the second bullet on page 7, which would have explained that
bullet item.
Mr. Castenada stated that that information spoke to the various
residential categories in the zoning ordinance together with mobile
home park zoning which was added last year. It indicates that there
is a broad range of housing allowed in the community, from sing:E
family to existing mobile homes.
Chrmn Peirce stated that the land use element has a number of
10,225 units and suggested that there should be a similar number
reflected in the zoning ordinance.
Mr. Castenada stated that the information should have been con
tained in the zoning ordinance, as well as additional tests outlin
ing the difference between the numbers of units that would be allow
ed under one system versus the other. Staff is assuming that the
Commission has a preference, or will in the future, on which number
they want to use.
Mr. Castenada continued by saying that the next category deals with
housing affordability and assistance, and staff attempted to re
flect the latest decisions and interpretations of the Commission
Council, and staff. Staff indicated by way of illustration, it may
be possible to look at the minimum floor space requirement, and,
under select circumstances lower that requirement re senior housing,
etc. The gist of it would be to periodically look at the develop
ment standards and perhaps modify and revise and upgrade them.
He stated re existing affordability, under mobile home park zones,
what staff reflected is that the city did undertake, after a number
of meetings with Council and Commission, a revision for both the
land use element and the zoning ordinance, to install a mobile home
park zone.
He added that the next item deals with a coastal issue, which in
dicates what is feasible in providing housing for low and moderate
income households in new developments. What has :.been suggestzed 4's
the adoption of feasibility guicelines to test whether or not it
would be practical to develop low and moderate income housing.
Staff has attempted to reflect where the city stands on this issue
at this time, but the details have not been considered by the Council
or Commission as yet.
Chrmn Peirce stated that he understood that the city can offer but
does not have to offer incentives in providing affordable housing
within new housing developments. Comm Smith added that the law
states that cities have to offer something but leave the levels of
what is offered up to the city. Having a variance procedure in it
self satisfies the minimum of the law.
Mr. Castenada added that the material staff has reviewed seems to
verify the statement that is in the draft, and some of it is up to
interpretation by staff and attorneys. The housing element recog-
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nizes that there are specific actions, steps that could be taken
which have yet to be developed by either the Commission or
the council. He suggested that this topic should be included but
should be revised because staff doesn't want to leave the im
pression that the city is committed to density bonuses in the
coastal zone, if that is not the case. Chrmn Peirce agreed.
Comm Smith aBked what happened with the shared housing program
allocation of $S,OOO which ended in 1982. He wanted to know if
there were any measured results re benefits to senior citizens
and if there is that information should be included in the ele
ment. Mr. Castenada and Chrmn Peirce agreed.
Mr. Castenada continued by saying that the next item deals with
senior citizens' housing program and the several issues related
to it. Staff has tried to summarize where the program stands and
indicate that it is continually under stUQY but has not been imple
mented.
Chrmn Peirce stated that on page 13 under this topic, the second
sentance referring to "in-lieu fees" that Commission had recommend
ed that that be deleted and he believed Council had concurred on
that.
Mr. Castenada stated that the next item deals with the shared equity
program and it deals more with the moderate income issue as a result
of the Agreement, i.e. for certain portions of those projects to be
sold to moderate income households and perhaps through the shared
equity program.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the Appletree proje~t has gone thit"mugh and
possibly the I.a Playa project has filed afinal. She added that the
finals go to the City council and not to the Commission.
Mr. Castenada explained that the affordable housing fund is like some
of the other actions, in that the Council by resolution has estab
lished a fund. There is an account in the City Treasury with approx
imately $50,000, with more to be allocated to that fund by way of the
Commodore Project. The resolution indicates uses for the fund, basic
ally in the area of housing. The Council requested and has obtained
from staff a report indicating other potential uses of this fund in
an attempt to get insight on uses other than housing. Ms. Sapetto
added that the last programs that have been approved deal mostly with
community center improvement, acquistion of open space, etc. She
continuted by saying the uses for the fund were set up by resolution
so the resolution can be changed. However, any changes should be
within the relm of housing because the way the funds were acquired
were for the purposes of housing. Funds could be used for peripheral
types of housing issues was the last determination by the Council.
Mr. Castenada stated that the last item speaks to block grant funds
with potential allocation for reducing the costs for new moderate
income housing.
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Mr. Castenada stated in conclusion that staff would like to con
tinue the housing element until the meeting of the 19th and
try to pull together all of the various comments that have been made
on all the other sections, together with this section, and produce
a fairly complete package from beginning to end to be discussed at
that time. Then, depending on Commission's desires, either continue
to work on the element or have a work session with the CitY Council
and citizens.
Chrmn Peirce opened the public hearing.
Wilma Bird, 1152 17th street, Hermosa Beach, suggested that a real
study be done, block by block, as to where there is affordable hous
ing in Hermosa. She added that Redondo Beach has a rule that no
single-family dwelling can be removed unless it is replaced by the
same. She felt that Hermosa has more than its share of affordable
housing in the illegal units, and the city shouldn't plan more until
they know exactly what the city has now. She didn't think that block
grant funds should be used in this way.
In response Chrmn Peirce stated that oneof the items in the plan is
to initiate~ survey the quality and affordability of housing in
the city.
Public Hearing was closed, there being no more public testimony.
COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS
Ms. Sapetto stated that the Mayor suggested that the Planning
Commission sub-committee meet with the Council sub-committee on the
Seaview Inn property on Wednesday or Thursday of next week. Chrmn
Peirce and Comm Brown stated that Thursday evening would be good
for them. Ms. Sapetto suggested that the meeting be at 6:30, since
the Biltmore site committee is meeting on that night also. She add
ed that she can verify that time with Comm Izant. Assuming that he
can make it at 6:30 on March 24th, there will be a meeting between the
Commission sub-committe and Council sub-committee re the proposed
zone change on the Seaview Inn property and any other items that might
be on the agenda.
Comm Smith stated that there is still the issue of the supposed lack
of specific standards re condo conversions which should be discussed.
Ms. Sapetto responded that Staff had suggested that a workshop be
held on the 8th or 20th of April to discuss that issue.
comm Smith stated that on the housing element there are two issues
he would like considered with respect to the particular portion dis
cussed this evening; one being the use of housing affordability fund
to provide interest free loans to owners of bootlegs to help them
bring it up to code. Two, that the city explore with the South Bay
Board of Realtors some ethical comrnittrnent not to sell buildings
that include bootlegs, and perhaps even encourage the owners to
report them to the city. He added that the people who are in con
trol of property are real estate people and they know more about
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property in the city than does the city. Since they are ethical
people, this might be a good recourse for the city in terms of ex
ploring the housing stock. Chrmn Peirce agreed with this suggestion.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the traffic sub-committee did not meet to
night because the Council is now deliberating about removal of the
highway parking again. since there has been some discussion with
Manhattan Beach re their support of the LACTC ~tudy. Th ~ LACTC
study is a stud.y for the use of the railroad right of way as a
transportation system linking the two cities to El Segundo. She
continued by saying that Manhattan Beach has in the past opposed
that link. However, Manhattan Beach conceded they would support
the consideration of that railroad for a corridor for a transpor
tation use, if the city of Hermosa Beach will consider removing
the lanes on PCH on the south end of town. This topic will be
discussed at the Chamber retreat on Friday. So the sub~committee
delayed further action until after the meeting.
Chrmn Peirce asked to be supplied with the materials to be used
at the retreat which deal with various community planning issues,
as well as a report as to what took place. Ms.Sapetto replied that
she had planned to do that and to present the information in the
packet at the next meeting.
Motion by Comm Smith to adjourn.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes were approved at a
regulat meeting o f the Planning Commission held on the
day of _________ , 1983. ------
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