HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1983_01_18MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON JANUARY 18, 1983,
IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CH.AMBERS AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order at 7:40 P.M. by Vice Chairman Izant
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Comms Brown, Izant, Loosli, Shapiro, Smith, Strohecker
ABSENT: Chrm. Peirce
ALSO PRESENT: Pamela Sapetto, Planning Director; Ralph Casteneda, TDC Planning
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Comm. Smith asked for a clarification on page 2 where it stated" ... 61 per
cent"of the condominiums were owner occupied, adding that it didn't indicate
what it was 61 percent of. Vice Chmn Izant said that figure was not available
at this time. Comm. Shapiro stated that the comment concerning the definition
of "Bed and Breakfast" was taken out of context and thought that this wa.s an
incorrect summarization. Adding that it could be an indication of perhaps
more serious errors in summarization. It was decided to let the minutes stand
as submitted.
Motion to approve by Vice Chmn Izant, seconded by Comm Shapiro. So ordered.
RESOBUTIONS P.C. 83-1, 83-2, 83-3, 83-5.
After a short discussion there was a motion by Comm Strohecker, seconded by
Corrnn Shapiro, to pass the resolutions as a group and as reflecting the intent
Qf what happened at the last meeting.
AYES: Comms Brown, Tzant, Shapiro, Strohecker
NOES:
ABS: Comms Loosli, Smith
REQUEST 'FOR 'lOO FOOT TOWER BY STORER CABLE T.V. AND CUP
Ms. Sapetto gave the staff report. She stated that it was the staff's recommend
ation that the Planning Commission consider the item and then continue it to
the next meeting so that the necessary General Plan Land-Use Element may be
acted upon first.· Further, that the project had undergone an environmental
review and was issued a negative declaration. She continued by saying that the
project as proposed will consist of a 100 foot tower with microwave antenna for
receiving TV signals and will involve the construction 0f two earth-station
dishes. It will be located where a portion of an existing building will be
removed, with no Storer parking facilities being affected. She further stated
that the tower will be constructed of a galvanized-steel framework, to be tri
angular in shape with the base being 12' 8 11 and then tapering to a 4' diame.ter
It is to be a needle-type steel structure so as to minimize obstruction of
visibility. Safety will be provided by a 15' wall on the north and west sides
of the structure, and the tower will be equipped with an aircraft warning light
at its peak. Citing the above factors, staff felt that project approval is
warranted. Ms. Sapetto further pointed out that at this time there is a con
flict between the General Plan and the Zoning Ordinance as to permitted land
use. Based on that conflict it was recommended that, with Commission approval,
to change the land-use element of the General Plan from open space first, which
would necessitate a public hearing and would postpone project approval at this
time.
In answer to CommLoosli's question, Ms. Sapetto stated that the legal building
height in the city is 45', adding that the tower in question would not be con
sidered a building or habitable structure as defined by the Zoning Code, and
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thus is not limited by that code section.
Public Hearing Opened.
Ron Miller, Representative/Applicant, HCB Construction Management Company for
Storer Cable. Mr. Miller stated that as to the discrepancy with respect to
the conflict between the zoning and land use, he would address that at a future
time. He generally agreed with the comments of staff, and noted that Storer
is planning a major improvement of a recently purchased building on Valley,
which improvements include a studio, new headend facility, and other general
improvements to the cable system. He added that the light at the tower's
peak is not required but can be done if Commission feels it necessary. Not-
ing further, that the addition of the tower to the system is to upgrade the
system itself and is a planned expenditure by Sto~er to improve reception.
Comm Loosli pointed out that if the tower was not located at sealevel, as
planned, then a 100' tower would not be necessary. Mr. Miller stated that
this location was purchased because all of their facilities could be at one
location, adding that proximity of the tower to the equipment is very impor
tant.
Carl Ossipoff, General Manager, Storer Cable, Hermosa Beach, stated in answer
to Connn Loosli question that, according to their survey, a 100' tower was
necessary because reception is affected dramatically under 90'. He added
that channels 50 and 18 were must--carry stations by FCC regulations and that
in order to receive them properly the tower must be at least 100', otherwise
the picture would be substandard, Mr. Miller stated that the reason for
tower's being located on the Valley Drive site was to eliminate amplifiers
within the system.
In answer to Vice Chmn Izant's question, Mr. Ossipoff stated that the numbers
contained in the report attributed to reception at Live Oak Park were read
at the tower, without going through the seven amplifiers. Gomm Smith felt
that that should have been stated in the report.
In answer to Vice Chmn Izant's question, Mr. Ossipoff stated that Storer had
a 15 year franchise from the city which expires in 1992. He added that the
cost increas@were written into the franchise with a guaranteed increase of
75 percent of the Consumer Price Index (CPI). Comm, Smith wanted to know if
there is any stipulation in the franchise for special pass-on increases. Mr.
Ossipoff stated that there was, but that it involved City Council approval.
He added that there is a proposal before the City Council at this time based
on the 75 percent CPI provision.
Comm Shapiro asked if in the future the state-of-the-art witn respect to
towers changed so that a smaller tower would do the same job, would Storer
be willing to replace the 100' tower without passing the costs on to , the con
sumer. Mr. Miller stated that they might.
Comm Smith stated that he was concerned that 100' tower will be located next
to a school and trailer park and wanted to know if the tower would be up to
seismic standards. Mr. Miller stated that the towers are idesigned to the Uni
form Building Code (UBC) with a safety factor of 2. The foundation is done
with drilled piers going down 25 to 30 feet, with reinforcing steel held down
by high-strength anchor bolts. Adding futher that it is designed by a California
State licensed engineer,and it is designed to withstand the seismic forces des
cribed by the UBC then doubled. Vice Chmn Izant asked what the City's lia
bility would be if the tower did not withstand an e~rthquake. Ms. Sapetto
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stated that the structure has to conform with the UBC and if it passed in
spection with respect to that code, the liability would fall on the owner
and engineer and natl, the City. Adding however, that the City would probably
be named in any resulting lawsuits.
Vice Chmn Izant noted that the proposed cable would be of a 1/2' type and
asked whether a larger cable would require less amplification and thus would
eliminate the need for such a large tower. Mr, Ken Gromberg,Storer Repre
sentative, 19401 Pruitt Drive, Torrance, sta~ed that that was correct, but
that Storer would still have the problem of dual locations,
There being not further testimony the Public Hearing was closed,
In answer to Vice Chmn Izant's question Ms Sapetto informed the Commission
that the hearing tonight was not advertised generally to the public, but
was a mailed-notice hearing with those persons within a 100' radius of the
proposed building site being notified, To the question of the conflict of
land use and zoning, she stated that the open space zoning belongs where the
public school site exists and not where there has been a continued use of the
property by private persons, Adding that what is important at this time is
to decide about the future land use of the site and whether the Commission
wants the site to continue to be for a manufacturing use, After deciding
that the Commission can decide if the structure is appropriate for that site
and whethe~_.it . falls within the zoning regulations. Additional, an EIR might
be of assistance to the Commission in its consideration of the issue in con
flict.
Motion by Comm Strohecker, seconded by Comm Smith, to continue the Public
Hearing on the Storer request until after such time as a Public Hearing can
be noticed on the change of the land use element of the General Plan in the
area at issue, and the completion and submission by Storer of a focused EIR
on the proposal before the Connnission.
AYES:
NOES:
Comms Izant, Loosli, Shapiro, Smith, Strohecker
Comm Brown
Tilffi :EXTENSION -oF -TENTATIVE MAP 40578 AND CUP LOCATED AT 1833 PACIFIC COAST
·HIGHWAY
Ms. Sapetto presented the staff report and stated that it was the staff's
recommendation that the resolution be app~oved by the Commission, She added
that,~o.n request of the Commission at their last meeting, the owner of the
property was present to answer Commission's questions, She added that staff,
after appropriate research, determined that the applicant had the legal
authority to request the extension.In answer to Comm Smith's question, Ms,
Sapetto said that this would be the one and only extension allowed; however,
the applicant could reapply and present the project again as a new project.
Comm Loosli asked for a definition of "substantial building". Ms, Sapetto
stated that the City Attorney defined vesting of rights as being after the
point of breaking ground "and that it would have to be at the point of the
land having been graded.
Public Hearing was opened.
James Lynch, 4345 Mariota Avenue, North Hollywood 91602, applicant, stated
that the reasons for his request were because of the current economic con
ditions and how they adversely affect interest rates and short-term loans
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with respect to construction. He felt that within the near future, with
the interest rates coming down, that the market would be good for this pro
ject. In answer to Comm Loosli's question he stated that the project was
the same as it was originally submitted but that there could be some changes.
Ms. Sapetto added that, technically, any change would require Plann~~g
Connnission approval with the approval being focused on the specific change.
Motion by Comm Smith, seconded by Comm Brown, to approve the Resolution as
presented; approving the time extension for Tentative Tract Map Number 40578,
located at 1833 Pacific Coast Highway.
AYES:
NOES:
ABS:
Comms Brown, Shapiro, Smith
Comms Izant, Loosli
Comm Strohecker
There being a tie vote, further discussion was held with the result being,
that since the project itself had been previously approved and that tonight's
vote went only to the extension of time, Comm Strohecker changed his vote,
with the final vote being:
AYES:
NOES:
Comms Brown, Shapiro, Smith, Strohecker
Connns Izant, Loosli
REVISED HOUSING -ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN
Mr. Casteneda presented the staff report. He stated that staff has followed
the format and framework approved by the Commission last year, and pursuant to
that he submitted sections 4 and 5 in draft form. He noted that it is not
ready for approval at this time, but is intended to prompt reaction and comment
to give aid to staff in completing the final document.
He stated that section 4 deals with the use and function of the housing ele
mentand application of the element in the future. Section 5 deals with hous
ing needs, including, existing housing supply, the amount of new housing that
may be needed in the community, various p9pulation characteristics, as well
as, the issue of affordability. Issue of illegal and bootleg housing are
also focused on, along with statistics on deteriorating housing. Additional
items deal with senior citizens and other population groups; and with re
lationship of income to the amount of housing costs. He added that at
the present time staff has no specific number or locations with respect
to the illegal/bootleg housing.
He continued by saying that the information dealiP.g with the quality of
housing is based on a survey done 4-1/2 lfears ago, and they used those
statistics and applied those figures to the city population as a whole
to extract an estimate of what the conditions are citywide. Finding
further that about 1,000 housing units might be in need of major repairs.
Major repairs include work costing in excess of $2,000.00
With respect to the amount of new housing needed, he noted that the sta
tistics and figures were supplied by the regional agency (SCAG) to the
city, and they can be revised by the city in consultation with SCAG. He
stated further that by state law the agency is to supply thse figures to
the city. The figures used are based on the latest statistics supplied
by SCAG; however, SCAG is, at this time, in the process of revising those
£igures based on the 1980 census data. He added, that as soon as the new
figures are available they will be brought to the Commission.
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Furthermore, the number of new housing that might be needed, based on these
figures, is within the amount that could be built based on the existing
land use element. Noting that, subsequent sections to this element will
allow the Commission to indicate whether or not they feel that in the next
5 years that amount of housing can be built. He continued by saying that
the Conrrnission is not bound to the total need figure, but they can select
a figure they find is necessary in the next 5 years.
In answer to Comm Loosli's question, Mr. Casteneda stated that the City
is bound by law to use the SCAG figures in their plan, but there is a
time period that the City can work with SCAG to come up with revised figures
that the City can work with that they feel is more generally reflective
of the situation in their particular city. Further, that in subsequent
sections of the Plan, the City can indicate that this is the amount of
needed housing that can be built based on consideration of environment,
congestion, etc., and can limit the number currently allowed, so the
City would not be required to up the density by zone changes, etc., in
order to meet the SCAG figures. Additionally, the number of new housing
stated in the plan would be the bottom line number that can be huilt,
and need not be the same as the amount of housing that theoretically
SCAG has indicated. Noting further, that this is a continuous issue
in most communities.
Comm Loosli noted that considering the way the SCAG figures are arrived
at, that as housing needs grow, so will the SCAG figures and cities will
continuously be required to provide new housing to acconnnodate the p~pu
lation growth without regard to population density.
Mr, Casteneda continued by saying that the element also must provide in
formation on various populations groups with special needs, i.e., senior
citizens and female heads of households, And the information supplied
in this draft is based on the 1980 census. With respect to the afford
ability item, he explained that it was measured in terms of the amount
housing costs in relation to income. He added that the information
supplied in that regard was also from the 1980 census.
Comm Loosli stated that he was concerned about the conflict between
the housing element in the section on new housing and the land use ele
ment. He added that he thought the General Plan should specifically
state which has superseding authority. Vice Chmn Izant agreed. Mr.
Casteneda said that as a general rule the land use element drives the
housing element unless otherwise stated.
Vice Chmn Izant stated that in section 5, first paragraph, he didn't
feel that "needs" and "conditions" were one in the same. He suggested
that staff specifically list both the needs and the conditions that
affect those needs, He suggested further that in regard to the SCAG
recommendations on the bottom of page 4, last paragraph, that the word
"should" should not be used. Also on page 6, he asked if "household
growth" meant what the City wants to happen over the next 5 years or
if that was someone's opinion as to what is going to happen. Mr.
Casteneda said it was an opinion. Vice Chmn thought that it should be
stated as such.
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Comm Strohecker suggested that on page 2 of the draft the wording should
be changed from deteriorating housing which could be brought up to standard
to ·. "should" be brought up to standard. Also as to bootlegs, there should
be some dialogue as to what the City proposes to do about it.
Comm Brown stated that he thought there should be more imput from the
community as to what the actual needs of the city are.
Conuns Smith and Loosli suggest the issue of down-zoning be addressed in the
element.
Mr. Casteneda explained that the replacement of lost inventory number d.s
on a one-to-one replacement. Comm Smith thought that that nmnber should
reflect actual past experience, i.e., when a building is torn down, is it
usually replaced with a single-family dwelling or a multiple-family dwell
ing. Vice Chmn Izant suggest that the title of section 5 be changed from
"needs" to "goals."
Mr. Casteneda explained that as this plan gets into the Public Hearing phase
it would reflect more public imput. Also he pointed out that upon completion
the growth issue will be consistant with the land use element.
CONSIDERATION OF REPLACING ALL STREET SIGNS WITH NEW ONES COLORED BLUE 'AND
WHITE
The staff report was given by Ms. Sapetto. She stated that at the Commission's
suggestion it has been put on the agenda for discussion, adding that only a
minimal amount of research has been done on the issue at this time. However,
staff did find out that repainting the signs is not a possibility because of
the reflective nature of the signs. Additionally, the cost factor for re
painting would not be economically feasible, in that it outweighs replacement
cost. Replacement cost is approximately $40,000.00. She added that if it
is the consensus of the Commission to investigate further, staff will in
vestigate further into costs and repercussions.
Gomm Shapiro stated that he belives at this time the signs are replaced on a
rotating basis, and suggested that the next time an area is replaced they be
of the new blue and white, thereby it would not require expenditure of any
new funds. He added that it should not be done on a sporadic basis.
Public hearing was opened, there being no testimony, hearing was closed.
Vice Chmn Izant suggested that the Commission make a determination if they
want the staff to pursue this issue further. Comm Brown was in favor of
replacement if it is done on a rotational basis and it doesn't require extra
funds. He suggested that the Traffic Division of the Public Works Depart
ment provide commission with some statistics on what would be a more
appropriate color and perhaps give the Commission some choice as to colors.
Comm Loosli stated that the color should not be chosen solely on its visi
bility factor, but that esthetics should be considered. Comm Smith stated
that because of the numbers of tourists who visit the City, image enhance
ment should be co~sidered. However, a special expenditure shouldn't be
used.
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At Comm Strohecker's suggestion, Ms. Sapetto stated that she would find
out if replacement is done on a rotating basis and what the time period
will be for total replacement.
STAFF REPORTS
Ms. Sapetto stated that there is a seminar scheduled by the League of
California Cities in Monterey, and inquired whether any of the commission
ers would be interested in attending. Comms Brown and Loosli said that
they might be able to attend.
She also noted there was an upcoming meeting of the Southwest Area Planrr
ning Council on Friday, January 28. 1983.
Motion to adjourn at 10:55
CERT! FI CATI ON
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes were approved at a regular
meeting of the Planning Commission held on the ____ day of ____,, __ _
1983.
SPEIRCE, CHAIRMAN JOEL SHAPIRO, SECRETARY
DATE