HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1983_09_20MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON
SEPTEMBER 20, 1983, IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Chmn Izant; Conuns Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Smith, Soulakis
and Strohecker
ABSENT: None
ALSO PRESENT: Alfred Mercado, Planning Aide; Ralph Castaneda, TDC
Planning.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1983
Comm Newton pointed out two corrections: l) Page 3, second para
graph from the bottom, it should read, "In answer to Comm Newton's
question ... "; 2) Page 7, second to the last paragraph, it should
read " ... proceedings will impact the individual condominium owners."
Motion by Comm Newton, seconded by Comm Soulakis to approve the
minutes with the above two corrections. There being no objection,
it was SO ORDERED.
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS 83-23 AND 83-24
Chmn Izant asked staff to provide commission with a copy of the full
ordinance.
Chmn Izant suggested postponing this item until the next meeting
when the ordinance will be provided. He requested that in the future
all ordinances be attached unless it was passed verbatim. The item
was then continued to the next regular meeting.
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES USED AS PARKING LOTS WITH CONDITIONAL USE
PERMITS
Mr. Mercado stated that this item had not been addressed by the Board
of Zoning the previous night due to a lengthy agenda. He added that
they will hear it at their next meeting. Subsequently, the Conunission
would not be able to take action on this issue this evening.
In answer to Chmn Izant's question, Mr. Mercado stated that the item
has been modified since it was originally introduced.
Conun Smith asked for a clarification of the difference between primary
and accessory parking as used within the reports. Mr. Mercado stated
that when a commercial or industrial business needs additionaly park
ing to maintain their business, they will use off-site parking at a
different location,constituting accessory parking. Whereas, when a
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person who owns a piece of residential property wants to develop
that property as a parking lot, that would constitute a primary
use.
In answer t.o Comm Smith's question, Mr. Mercado stated that re use
of a primary lot for commercial purposes, item 3 of the ordinance
could be construed that those types of parking lots could be used
for commercial purposes, i.e. charging for parking by the hour.
In answer to Comm Smith's question, Mr. Mercado stated that the
motivation of the Council was to mitigate the parking shortage in
the city. He added that the use of the Conditional Use Permit pro
cedure allows scrutiny on the part of the Planning Commission.
Comm Smith stated that it appeared to be one of the purposes of
this drdi~ance to develop off-~treet parking on PCH in residential
areas because everybody in town has expressed an interest in ex
panding the commercial depth to accommodate the multi-use corridor,
which is an important purpose. He stated that he concurred with
that as long as the property owners in that area have an opportunity
to be properly noticed and have a say in the matter. He added that
his concern is that the ordinance is too vague to measure its impact
on the city. He felt that increasing the amount of parking lots
will take cars off the street but it will not necessarily reduce
circulation.
Chmn Izant stated that in the joint session with the City Council
he did not recall that the 150' figure in the ordinance had been
agreed upon. Mr. Mercado stated that a specific number was not
mentioned, but he remembered the language as being "50' or some
thing appropriate." Therefore, staff was recommending the 150'
figure.
Comm Brown stated that he did not recollect that all R zones would
be included in this ordinance. Mr. Mercado stated that the Council
is now pushing for all residential zones as opposed to their initial
drive. Chmn Izant commented that all R zones except for R-1 had been
mentioned during the joint session. Comm Strohecker added that it
was his recollection that Councilman Wood had brought up all the R
zones.
Comm Izant opened the public hearing and stated that this issue
would be re-heard at the next regular meeting.
Mr. R. Redo, 720 4th Place, Hermosa Beach, stated that he did not
feel that this issue was presented clearly during the Commission's
short discussion of it.
Chmn Izant presented some background information on the issue. He
stated that the original intent of Council was to allow a commercial
property owner to buy a piece of property perhaps across an alley or
a street from his business which is zoned R-2 or R-3, and allow him
to use that lot for parking for his commercial £acility. Since that
time it has taken in some other questions, i.e., should there be
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parking made available in other residential zones which are not
necessarily contiguous to a commercial zone, and how far should
those lots, secondary or accessory, be allowed to be away from
the business itself? He added that there is an ordinance now that
says a person can do this in an R-3 zone if it is not more than 50
feet from the commercial property. The ordinance under discussion
is a modification or expansion of the existing ordinance for com
mercial as well as residential uses. He continued by saying that
this is the first public hearing and it will be continued until the
next meeting. At the next meeting Commission will be given a com
plete draft of the ordinance. He added that what Commission has be
fore it now is just a staff recommendation.
The hea r ing was continued until the next scheduled meeting.
AMENDING THE ZONING CODE 1103
The staff report was given by Mr. Mercado. He sated that this item
was dealt with at the -last regular meeting of the Commission, and
at that time it had been continued to tonight. He added that the
existing procedure for activating a C-Potential classification con
sists of a developer submitting a precised plan of design for the
area to the Commission. A precised plan requires preliminary draw
ings which are usually prepared by an architect or engineer. He
added that this can be a cumbersome and expensive process that may
deter commercial development along the Pacific Coast Highway corri
dor.
He continued by saying that the proposal to allow owners o f C-Potential
properties along Pacific Coast Highway, which are contiguous to C-3
zones with a common boundary-line, the automatic right to rezone C-3,
would provide more clarity and certainty for the developer and such
would enhance the City's ability to compete for land development
dollars for those C-Potential properties which are presently under
utilized.
Furthermore,. since no precised plan would be required for rezoning
a C-Potential lot, the .developer would have to submit such a plan to
the Commiss ion f o r ap proval o f an y project. It was staff's recommen
dati on that the Commi ssion ap pr o v e the resolution provided approving
the amendme nt o f sect ion 1103 o f the Zoning Code by allowing C-Potential
prop erties cont iguou s to a C-3 z one along Pacific Coast Highway the
righ t t o automa ti c all y rezone to C-3, prior to submission of a pre-
cise d p l an to t he Pla nning Commis sion.
Comm Soulakis asked what had been done re the question of an auto
matic reversal to C-Potential if for some reason the planned project
fell through . .Mr. Mercado stated that he went through the zoning
Code and also spoke with the Building Director about this question.
With respect to the Zoning Code, it made no mention of a property
owner not having any recourse once he or she is granted a zone change
to commercial. The owner can always come back and request a reversion.
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In speaking with the Building Director, he stated that the Director's
response was that a property owner has the right to request a re
versal, but has no guarantee that it will be granted.
Chmn Izant stated that the ordinance indicates that this particular
rezoning would occur where the C-Potential property abuts a commer
cial zone. However, in the north end of Pacific Coast Highway be
tween 18th and 21st there are some C-Potential properties that do
not abut any commercial property. He asked if those properties would
continue to fall under the existing ordinance. Mr. Mercado stated
that they would fall under the existing ordinance.
Comm Smith asked if there is any document that inventories C-Potential
properties in light of the type of structures existing on the proper
ties at this time. Mr. Mercado stated that at this time there is no
document of that type, but that Mr. Ralph Castaneda of TDC Planning
was in the process of documenting that information with respect to
the Land Use Element.
Comm Smith stated that one of the most important things Commission
shoµld analyze would be what the effects of changing a C-Potential
p~operty by this ordinance would be versus current residential uses;
would there be a serious environmental impact? Also, there has been
a lot of talk about the current situation prohibiting owners of that
type of property from coming before the city with development plans.
However, he had not heard of one complaint in regard to this matter,
and he wanted to know if the city staff has documented evidence of
developers or owners stating that they have been hindered in regards
to these C-Potential properties. He added that he is reluctant to
change an ordinance without some public demand.
Mr. Mercado stated that staff did not have such evidence, but he felt
that what is there may in the future discourage some owner or develop
er. He added that it is the opinion of the Council that that is the
case, and for that reason they would like Commission to look into
alternative measures that would facilitate or encourage future com
mercial development.
Chmn Izant opened the public hearing, there being no testimony the
public hearing was closed.
Chmn Izant asked if under the existing legislation a developer would
have to first appear before Commission without any plans and apply
for a change of zones, R-3 to C-3. Mr. Mercado stated no, that it
is a one step process, i.e., a developer would come in with everything
required and would take his ,chances as far as the zone change. However
under the proposed change the owner would come in with a plan and if
it meets all requirements it would get approval. He added that the new
ordinance, in essence, would eliminate the precised plan in order to
receive a zone change.
Comm Soulakis reiterated that he was still interested in having an auto-•
matic reversal and suggested that the ordinance allow the applicant
to request the automatic rezoning or use the regulation as it now
exists. He :· felt that there may be some cases where the applicant
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would want to submit a precised plan and not change the zone unless
that is approved. The applicant should have one of these two options,
i.e. a one-step approach or a two-step approach. Comm Brown agreed.
Comm Izant suggested adding a section or specific paragraph in the
ordinance stating that if the project is not approved it reverts to
its former zoning status. He added that that would clear up the
gray areas of ·the amendment, if a project was denied it would protect
property owners, and it would still promote development.
Motion by Comm Brown, seconded by Comm Strohecker to approve the
language as recommended by staff amending section 1103 of the zoning
Code with the following addition: Section 1, subsection c, if the
project is denied the status of the property will revert to its
original status before the application.
Comm Smith stated that he would not support the amendment because
it does not encourage developers, nor is there any demand for the
change.
AYES:
NOES:
ABS:
Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Strohecker
Comms Smith, Soulakis
None
Mobion by Comm Brown, seconded by Comm Strohecker, to approve
Resolution P.C. 83-25, said resolution to be concurrent with the
motion's subsection c, that if the project is denied the status of
the property will revert to its original zoning.
AYES:
NOES:
ABS:
Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Strohecker
Comms Smith, Soulakis
None
ENABLING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENTS
The staff report was given by Mr. Mercado. He stated that the City
Council passed a resolution of intention on August 2nd urging the
Commission to consider the enactment of an enabling ordinance that
would allow the City to enter into development agreements. Although
an enabling ordinance is not specifically required in order for the
City to enter into a development agreement, the Council wishes to
adopt an ordinance pursuant to the alternative listed in Government
Code Section 65864.
He continued by saying that enabling the City to enter into such
agreements with developers will allow the City to Compel the develop
er to fulfill certain requirements and, in return, the developer will
be assured that the project can progress unmolested without having
to meet changing requirements. Entering into a development agree
ment does not prevent a local agency from subsequently denying or
conditioning the project so long as such decisions are not based on
zone change or plan amendments which occur after entering into the
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agreement. In addition, once an agreement has been entered into,
a local agency must periodically review the progress made by the
developer to insure compliance with the agreement, at least every
12 months. If a local agency finds that the developer is not com
plying with the terms of the agreement, it may terminate or modify
the agreement. He stated further that staff therefore recommends
that the Planning Commission approve the ordinance enabling the
City of Hermosa Beach to enter into development agreements with
developers.
Comm Smith requested a copy of t~e Hagen Development agreement.
He also stated that inasmuch as the Hagen agreement has already
been entered into, he did not understand why the Council wants an
enabling ordinance after the fact. He added that Council's reason
ing was not apparent in staff's analysis.
Comm Newton 'stated that from her personal knowledge of the afore
mentioned Government Code section there is nothing in that section
that requires a city to have a blanket enabling clause.
Comm Smith reiterated that he was puzzled why Council chose to send
something to the Commission for an ·enabling ordinance after they
entered into the agreement. He wanted to know the council 1 s moti
vation. He also stated that he wouldl.ike to see spelled out in
the ordinance in specific detail what criteria projects should be
judged by and what procedures should be followed.
Comm Brown asked how the community could disapprove a development
agreement has been signed. Mr. Mercado stated that the format for
a development agreement has not beendetermined yet, but a public
hearing or forum would probably be the setting.
Comm Brown wanted to know what steps are taken and what documents
are signed when a development agreement is entered into. Mr.Mercado
answered by saying that the procedure is somewhat vague. However,
usually a developer negotiates with the City Manager and they out
line the major aspects of what it is they are seeking. Then it is
introduced into the system --what we are trying to c~eate --then
it goes to the planning commission for review, then it would go to
the Council as a recommendation from Commission. He added that pub
lic participation would take place at both the Commission and Council
levels
Comm Smith stated that Commission needs more procedureal material.
Comm Brown agreed.
Chmn Izant pointed out that the council's reasoning behind this
issue was stated on page 10 of their minutes, that the City Attorney
had stated that State law provides for adoption of development agree
ments and regulations as to their processing. He felt that these
agreements are designed to form binding agreements that will withstand
challenge and are binding on future councils. A development agreement
would freeze the zoning in effect at the time an agreement is enter-
ed into.
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Comm Smith stated that he felt there should be set procedures that
are followed and that the public has a right to inquire and to know
what those procedures are.
Comm Brown stated that he did not feel that one council's potential
ly bad decision should be binding on the next council.
Chmn Izant opened the public hearing.
Cathy Anderson gave background in£ormation to the Commission re
development agreements. It was her understanding that first a doc
ument from the City Attorney's office is needed indicating whether
a development agreement is necessary and under what circumstances.
Also a development agreement that is entered into without an ordin
ance allowing a development agreement, and providing for its pro
cedure, is not really a development agreement in the legal sense of
the word.
She continued by saying that a development agreement becomes an
ordinance or law and does in fact bind future city councils, which
is really the only purpose for such an agreement. The Hagen agree
ment is not a development agreement. It is an agreement between
Hagen and the City Council, it is somewhat of a guaranty which shows
that the Council is in agreement with his conceptual or preliminary
ideas. However, it is not a binding agreement that would hold up
in court.
She stated further that it is her understanding
to the school board property, they will have to
Environmental Impact report, zone changes, etc.
changes and parcel maps have been approved then
a development agreement to freeze those actions
councils.
that with respect
go through an
Once the zone
they will enter into
and to bind future
She added that a development agreement is an ordinance that outlines
what is needed procedurally, so that it will be followed step by
step and will not violate the public's due process rights. Also, a
developer needs assurances that the next city council will be bound
and a development agreement is a legally enforceable document. In
addition, the city does have flexibility with these agreements since
the only items guaranteed by the city are those items contained in
the agreement. All development agreements must come before the
Commission, and they must be properly noticed, then it will go to
the City Council.
She suggested that development agreements should not be entered into
unless the developer requests it, it should be at the developer's
option. The procedures should be carefully set out. She thought
that staff should see what other cities have done by way of procedures
and criteria.
Comm Smith thanked Ms. Anderson for her explanation.
Chmn Izant stated that staff should provide Commission with the fol
lowing information 1) recommendations of when and in what situations
a development agreement will be needed; 2) samples of what procedures
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should be followed; and 3) provide Commission with copies of develop
ment agreements from other cities. Comm Smith also asked for a copy
of the League of California Cities model agreement.
Chmn Izant continued the public hearing until the next regularly
schedulred meeting on October 18, 1983.
HOUSING ELEMENT
The staff report was given by Mr. Ralph Castaneda. He stated that
it was a noticed public hearing for tonight. To refresh the
Commission's memory he stated that two weeks ago the element was
discussed amongst the Planning Commission and five members of the
City Council, primarily as an opportunity for the Council to react
to the Commission's work to date. At that meeting the consensus
was that the element as it stood was fairly adequate and in the
right philosophical direction. Even those who disagreed with certain
details of the document agreed that it was acceptable as is. There
were not many deletions requested at that time. However, there were
six items set out for further discussion .and consideration as to how
they might be handled in the housing element or in some other vehicle
Comm Soulakis and Comm Brown requested copies of the minutes of the
aforementioned joint workshop.
Mr. Castaneda continued by suggesting that the Commission separate
those issue that should be addressed in the housing element from
those issues that should be handled through some other vehicle.
The six items presented by Mr. Castaneda were discussed one by one
with the following results.
1) Home ownership: The document should encourage home ownership
as opposed to absentee ownership, but it should not set specific
goals.
2) Density Bonus for Affordable Housing: The Commission's position
in the past has been that this is not a viable option for afford
able housing for this community for a variety of reasons. Density
bonuses are not bad in themselves, but Commission was not sure
they would be a possibiity.
Mr. Castaneda stated that density bonuses with respect to
senior housing might merit exploration; Commission agreed.
3) Lot Consolidation: That item would be more appropriately dis
cussed within the Land Use Element.
4) Accelerating Variance Processes: Should be discussed at length
at the next meeting. The thrust of the item seems to suggest
that more should be made an administrative task in terms of
allowing variances.
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5) Local Sources of Revenue: It was suggested that a statement
in the housing element stating that the City will seek to ex
plore new sources would be sufficient as opposed to stating
anything specific.
6) Manufactured Housing: Commission was not sure this should be
discussed in the element and requested that staff check this
item against the Building Code
Mr. Castaneda stated that at the next meeting he will come back with
a sample resolution and more discussion on the topic of density bonus
es with respect to senior housing.
Comm Smith requested that Mr. Castaneda also identify the areas where
the above six items would be put in the element so if Commission de
cides to put them in the element it can be done the same night as
the approval. All Commissioners agreed.
STATUS REPORT ON THE LAND USE ELEMENT
The status report was given by Mr. Castaneda. He commented on the
following five points.
1) Commercial Land Use Inventory: He stated that his staff has
completed the field work for almost the entire city with the main
commercial sections of Aviation, Pier and the downtown area. The
type of information compiled deals with business name; type of land
use; the status, i.e. whether developed or vacant or under construc
tion; the size of the parcel involved; square footage of the build
ing, all stories, and square footage for each separate dwellings;
existing zoning of the parcel; and existing categories of land use.
2) Retail Market Potential: He stated that his staff has done a
market study of sorts to see if there is additional demand for retail
c ommer c ial s pa c e . Th e information collected was for the Southbay area
and the City it s elf . The informatio n includes total taxable sales
generated over five o r s i x year s in the total market area as well as
the city a lo ne; di£ferent c ateg o ri es of retail and a determination
of the market share of each of these market areas re total sales;
per capita taxable sales, what is being generated (the strongest
areas being liquor stores and auto sales dealers, and the weakest
being apparel and home furnishings). In addition, he stated that
there appears to be a leakage, i.e. money earned here that is going
out of the community which might be kept here with a different approach.
3) Residential Land Use Inventory: He stated thathis staff is now
in the process of collecting information for every parcel and address
in the city; the number of units; the lot size; the zoning, the land
Use Element census tract and the census block where it is located.
He added that this information will allow a verification of the census
data, to determine how accurate the information is. Also it will pro
vide a stock of information that can be used in any number of studies.
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4) Demographic profile: He stated that this would deal with pop
ulation and income characteristics of the city relating to some of
the neighborhoods in the city.
5) Land Use Issues to be Emphasized. He concluded by stating that
several of the areas mentioned should be emphasized in the document;
i.e., the multi-use corridor, the characteristics of the land, trend
of existing policy; the downtown area; the school sites; with the
potential of these areas compared to the rest of the city. Also,
the general plan zoning inconsistencies should be addressed.
STAFF ITEMS
None
COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
In answer to Comm SmithB questions Mr. Mercado stated that staff is
still trying to negotiate a price on the Appletree title search, and
that is the reason why the inspection of the project has not taken
place. Comm Smith suggested that the title search will not be need-
ed if Mr. Todd has taken care of everything that he was supposed to.
Comm Shapiro suggested that the meeting night be changed to the first
Tuesday of each month because of the up-coming Winter holidays. It
was decided that there was time to discuss this at a later date.
Comm Shapiro asked that Commission make a suggestion to the City
Council that the limitation re commission member's terms be eliminated.
Comm Brown was not sure he would agree with that suggestion. Chmn Izant
stated that on the whole he thought it was perhaps better to have a
limitation to protect against some members becoming too set in their
ways and inflexible. He felt it was better to have a limitation.
Chmn Izant referred to a December 7th reassignment of Hermosa Improve
ment Commission to the Planning Commission Section of Ordinance 82-
697. He requested that Ms. Sapetto check into this reassignment since
Commission has not dealt with any agenda items with respect to this
area of duty. He .wanted to make sure that these items are coming be
fore the Commission as the reassignment indicates they should. He
requested that this topic be added to the next meeting's agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
fution by Comm Shapiro, seconded by Comm Brown to adjourn.