HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1983_09_06MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON
SEPTEMBER 6, 1983, IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 7:30 P.M.
I. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Soulakis
ABSENT: Comms Smith, Strohecker
ALSO PRESENT: Ms. Pam Sapetto, Planning Director; Mr. Alfred
Mercado, Planning Aide
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 2, 1983
Comm Newton pointed out that on page 6, third paragraph from the
bottom the following correction should be made "County Record"
should read "County Recorder".
Motion by Comm Newton, seconded by Comm Brown to approve the minutes
as submitted, noting the above correction. There being no object
ion, it was SO ORDERED.
III. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION P.C. 83-22
There being p.o objection to the resolution as submitted by .staff;
Motion by Comm Newton, seconded by Comm Soulakis,to approve the
Resolution P.C. 83-22.
AYES: Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Soulakis
NOES: None
ABS: None
IV. .AJ.1ENDING ZONING CODE TO REGULATE PLACEMENT OF SATELLITE ANTENNAE
The staff report was given by Ms. Sapetto. She stated that at the
last meeting there were three changes suggested by Commission which
were addressed in tonight's draft of the ordinance. However, the
first item that Commission had recommended be changed, it was de
cided that it should not be changed. She stated that staff felt
that that change would significantly change the -intent and mean
ing. She -.added that the word "broadcast" should be read as a verb
and not a noun. It was staff's recommendation that it remain as
it was in the original proposal.
The second change, re the site plan, was included as a requirement
for all applicants. The third change, under Section 1, number 4,
the requirement for screening the antenna from view will be re
quired in all instances.
Public hearing was opened by Chmn Izant. There being no testi
mony, th~ public hearing was closed.
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Comm Brown stated that except for .the first recommended change,
he felt that the ordinance was a true representation of what
Commission had intended.
Motion by Comm Brown, seconded by Comm Newton, to approve the
ordinance as presented incorporating staff's recommendation to
keep· the wording of Section 1, number 2, as originally submitted.
In answer to Comm Soulakis' question, Ms. Sapetto stated that since
screening will be required in all instances that it will no longer
leave the authority with the building director as to what will con
stitute adequate screening.
Chmn Izant added that it was the Commissions' intent to make a
case-by-case determination of the adequacy of the screening.
Chmn Izant asked that the record reflect that Comm Shapiro arrived
at 7: 40 p.m. Chmn Izant informed him of the to.pie _ then under dis
cussion.
AYES:
NOES:
ABS:
Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Shapiro
Comm Soulakis
None
Motion by Comm Brown, seconded by Comm Shapiro, to approve Reso
lution P.C. 83-23 as presented by staff.
AYES:
NOES:
ABS:
Chmn Izant; Cornms Brown, Newton, Shapiro
Comm Soulakis
None
V. REDEFINING HOTEL AND MOTEL, THEIR APPROPRIATE ZONES, AND DELET
ING (FROM THE ZONING CODE) THE TERMS BROADING/LODGING/ROOMING
HOUSES.
The staff report was given by Mr. Mercado. He stated that on
August 18, 1983, the City Council and the Commission held a joint
workshop to discuss this topic. At that workshop it was determined
that for hotels and motels no kitchen facilities shall be · permitted
in projects of less than 20,000 square feet, and that 80 percent of
the units shall be permitted in projects over 20,000 square feet.
It was decided further that boarding/lodging/rooming houses shall
not be permitted uses in any zones. He added that the rationale
for permitting kitchen facilities in larger projects only is based
on the interest in avoiding long-term use which is a more probable
outcome in smaller, older structures with kitchen facilities.
He continued by saying that the rationale for removing boarding/
lodging/rooming houses from the conditional use list results from
the perception that such uses have a propensity to lead to long
term use and manifest other ill-perceived characteristics which
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hinder the community's effort to enhance its image and fiscal
viability.
He added that it was staff's recommendation that the sample reso
lution be adopted and that the resolution recommends to the Ctiy
Council adoption of the proposed ordinance amending articles 2,
11.5, 10 and 8 of the Zoning Code.
Comm Brown stated that it was his recollection the percentage
figure arrived at during the workshop was 90 percent rather than
80 percent. Mr. Mercado stated that the minutes of that work-
shop did not indicate any concensus initially, but after a lengthy
discussion it was agreed that 80 percent would be the representative
number.
Chmn Izant pointed out that in Attachment 2, number 1, second-to-the
last line that the words "slicing scale" should be corrected to
read "sliding scale".
Chmn Izant opened the public hearing. There being no testimony,
the public hearing was closed.
After a short discussion, there was a motion by Comm Brown, second
ed by Comm Newton, to pass the resolution as submitted recommending
adoption of the ordinance by the City Council.
In answer to Comm Shapiro's question, Mr. Mercado stated that the
differences between hotels and motels are that hotels will have
sliding scale parking and will be required to have an 800 square
foot lobby manned 24 hours a day ..
In answer to Comm Soulakis' question Mr. Mercado stated that the
sliding scale parking will not apply to both hotels and motels. He
added that the proposed ordinance's new section 6 only applies to
hotels and that the section dealing with motels will stay as it
now exists.
In answer to Comm Soulakis' ques-tion Mr. Mercado stated that the
word "parcel" refers to land area. He added that the hotel re
quirement of an 800 square foot ·lobby manned 24 hours a day will
probably not be economically feasible for smaller projects.
In response to Comm Soulakis' question Chmn Izant stated, by way
of background information, that the Planning Commission originally
defined hotels has having no kitchen facilities. He added that it
had been his opinion that the large hotels generally didn't provide
kitchen facilities in their rooms. However, with more information
he found that many of the larger, better hotels provide such facilities
in their more expense rooms. He stated further that he agreed with
staff's analysis re the required square footage and manned-lobby,
since the hotel would have to be quite large before the kitchen
facilities would be provided.
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Comm Brown stated that the Commission did not want to preclude a
large developer from coming in and .having to fit into some archaic
criteria. Commission felt that the city would possibly attract a
good developer and that was one of the reasons they limited it
to 20,000 square feet. He felt that if a developer bought 20,000
square feet of land they should have some flexibility to determine
if some of the planned units would have kitchens. He felt that
that was Commission's rationale.
AYES:
NOES:
ABS:
Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis
None
None
Motion by Comm Soulakis, seconded by Comm Newton, to pass the
resolution PC 83-24 as prepared by staff.
AYES: Chmn Izant; Comms Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis
NOES: None
ABS: None
VI. C-POTENTIAL ALONG PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY
The staff report was given by Ms. Sapetto. She stated that on
August 15, 1983, the BZA approved a Preliminary Environmental
Impact report on amending the Zoning Code, Section 1103, to allow
owners of C-Potential properties adjacent to C-3 zones the right
to automatically rezone to C-3.
She added that the proposal to allow owners of ·c-Potential properties
along Pacific Coast Highway contiguous to C-3 properties the auto
matic right to rezone C-3, would provide more clarity and certainty
for the developer and would enhance the city's ability to compete
for land development dollars for those C-Potential properties which
are presently under-utilized.
In addition, though no precise plan would be required for rezoning
a C-Potential lot, as is now required, the developer would still
have to submit such a plan to to Commission for approval of any
project.
It is staff's recommendation that the Commission approve the reso
lution approving amendment of Section 1103 of the Zoning Code by
allowing C-Potential properties with a common-line boundary to a
C-3 zone along PCH the right to automatically rezone to C-3 prior
to submission of a precise plan to the Commission.
In answer to Chmn Izant's question Ms. Sapetto stated that if the
property owner has the underlying C-Potential on his property and
he is adjacent to a commercially zoned property along PCH, he would
have the right to automatically rezone to commercial. However, it
would not be blanket approval of an intended project. The project
plans would still have to come before the Commission.
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In answer to Comm Soulakis' question, Ms Sapetto stated that she
was not sure whether a property owner could go back automatically
to original zoning once the property has been rezoned. It was
her opinion that the property owner would have to make a formal
request to reverse it.
Comm Soulakis stated that he felt that once the Commission allows
these properties to rezone, then the adjacent zones would be re
zoned C-Potential, ad infinitum. Ms. Sapetto stated that that
would not be the case. She added that the property would have
to designated C-potential at this time and it would not go beyond
the scope of what is now C-Potential.
Both Comm Soulakis and Comm Brown voiced concern over the fact
that if the property were rezoned commercial at the owner~ request
and for some reason his proj~ct fell through that the reversion
to C-potential would not be automatic. They felt that this might
present some legal problem if the owner was prevented from using
his land for anything other than a commercial purpose. They felt
that if it was automatic one way, it should also be automatic in
the other direction.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the reason for this automatic rezoning
was to encourage commercial. She added that any property owner
would have the right to request a rezone as long as it is consis
ten with the general plan. Mr. Mercado stated that if a project
is denied initially it can be amended to comply with code require
ments. He added that any deriial has to be based on findings.
Comm Newton suggested that if a property owner is concerned with
this reversal issue,perhaps the Code should allow a property owner
to submit project plans along with his automatic zone change re
quest stipulating that the zone change be contingent on approval
of the plan.
In response to Comm Newton's suggestion Ms. Sapetto stated that with
the present Code the property owner has to submit a specific plan
in order to convert his C-Potential property to commercial, and
that approval of the plan would also constitute approval of the
zone change. However, it was the Council's concemthat that pro
cedure might deter property owners from converting to commercial
because they did not have a guaranteed conversion. She added that
under the proposed amendment the overly cautious developer would
no longer have that option.
Ms. Sapetto stated that it was her recommendation at this time to
continue this item until the next meeting when the staff can pre
sent commission with a draft of the proposed ordinance amendment
that reflects the Commissions' concerns.
Comm Brown felt that both options should be available to the pro
perty owner. On the one hand the zone change to commercial can
be automatic if that is the property owner's desire~ 0n the other
hand if the property owner would prefer that the zone change be
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contingent on the approval of his project plan that option should
still be available to him. He suggested further that the City
Attorney read and submit his opinion regarding the Commissions'
concerns raised tonight.
VII. STAFF ITEMS
Ms. Sapetto distributed material to the Commission with respect to
up-coming seminars sponsered by the Southwest Planning Council de
signed specifically for Planning Commissioners. She suggested that
the seminars would be helpful for the new commissioners. She re
quested that all those interested in attending let her know so
that the proper reservations can be made.
Ms. Sapetto distributed copies of the minutes from the Vehicle
Parking District to the Commissioners.
Chmn Izant pointed out that there would be a City Council-Planning
Commission Joint workshop tomorrow night to discuss the Housing
Element. He suggested that everyone attend if possible so that they
would be familiar with the subject matter on the oft-chance that
the element may come back before the Commission. He added that it
would begin at 7:00 p.m.
Ms. Sapetto stated that she had submitted a request to the Planning
Commission,for their consideration, to hold only one Commission
meeting per month instead of two. Her justification for the request
was that the Department is not getting the number of applications
for sub-divisions that they had in the past. She added that those
appplications are really the only items that must be discussed by
the Commission on a timely basis. She felt that most of the remain
ing business could be adequately handled in one meeting per month.
She continued by saying that the Housing and Land Use Elements were
now being discussed in the workshop format which seems to be a better
way to deal with those items. She added that putting the materials
together for the meetings was expensive. Also, if the circumstances
change, Caommission can go back to the two scheduled meetings per
month.
She added that this month would be exempt since the proposed ordin-
ance for .devel opme_nt ag.reeme.n.ts is an i tern that the City Council
was anxious Loi the Commission to take action on .
Comm. Soulakis stated that he had no objection with the one meeting
idea, but was concerned about its effect on the public. Ms. Sapetto
responded by saying that it would ·generally be just an additional
two-week wait if an i tern had to b ei continued from one meeting to
the next. She added that with respect to sub-divisions that those
are usually handled within one meeting's time, since they are drawn
to specifications and generally come in meeting all requirements.
If they are continued for some reason it will usually take the
applicant an extra meeting to make the necessary changes.
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In response to Comm Shapiro Ms Sapetto stated that if the addition
al two-week wait would cause an undue hardship a special meeting
could then be scheduled.
It was decided that the meetings would then be scheduled for the
third Tuesday of each month, exempting this month. so ORDERED.
VIII. COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
Chmn Izant asked what the status of the Appletree issue was.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the item had been originally scheduled for
tonights' meeting; but that they had had a problem obtaining a
preliminary title report. Staff had received a $700.00 estimate
for the report, and the City Attorney had requested a line-by-line
breakdown of the costs. She added that after they receive the
cost breakdown they will still have to get approval from the City
Council for the expenditure.
In answer to Comm Brown's question Mr. Mercado stated a preliminary
title report was necessary in order to notify the property owners
of the city's intended proceeding. He added that this report will
provide staff with a current list of the surrounding property
owners.
Comm Brown suggested that the staff obtain a copy of the title report from the
agency that the owner of the property used to close escrow, since a running
record is kept. Ms. Sapetto agr·eed that that was a· good idea .
Comm Newton added that the city's proceeding will impact the sur
rounding property owners, perhaps impairing their rights, and they
must be notified. She asked whether the inspection that had been
requested by the owner of the Appletree at the last meeting had
taken place. Mr. Mercado stated that the inspection had not been
done.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:15.