HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1968_06_17MINUTES OF THE ADJ OURNED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION held at the Cit y of
Hermosa Beach, California, in the Council Chambe rs at 7:30 pm on Monday, Jun e
17, 1968.
ROLL CALL -Pre sen t: Com m. Noble, Reeves, Boice, Arme r, Stabler, Chai r ma n Via u l t ;
Bud M. Trott, Buildin g and Planni ng Dir ec tor.
Absent: Comm. Hamilto n
Comm. Reev es was s eated afte r th e first i tem on the agenda was
in progr ess .
On motion by Comm . Ar me r, seconded by Comm. No ble, the minute s of the mee tings
of May 6, 1968 and Jun e 3, 1968 were unanimou s ly approv e d.
REV IEW OF NEED FOR AE STHET IC COMMITTEE TO REV IEW SIGN S
Since members of the Cha mber of Commer ce , Mr. Vic Irons , Manager, and Mr.
Wil l iam Boultt, board me mber, were pre sent, the su bject of an aesthe ti c commit tee
t o revi e w signs was th e f irst i tem dis cussed, i n order t hat the se gentl emen migh t
s peak on the subject.
Mr. Bud Tro tt advised the Commis s ion tha t Mayor Valdes ha d c alled h im , a nd t hat
it was hi s unders t anding that only the subject of a committee to r e view signs
be discu ss ed this e vening, and t h at thi s a pplied primarily to th e downtown part
of Hermosa Beac h . Comm. Armer br o ught up the mat t er of an architectural
or des i gn review board with respe c t to r es idences.
Mr. Irons s aid tha t the Chamb er o f Comm erc e did not feel th e neces sity of a
si g n revi ew c ommi ttee, and that th e y believ e d the Sign Or dinance was s uff icie nt
control . He sa id that many hours of study and dis c u ssi on had been under t aken
ov er a long period of time, by bus inessmen, the Chamber memb e rs, Gov e rning
bodi e s and S t aff memb e rs, to dra ft this ordinance. I f an architectural revi ew
bo ar d was nece ssary fo r sign s , then t he sign ordinan ce per se has no meaning.
Mr. Boultt s poke and c onfirme d Mr. Irons stat e ment. He sug ges t ed the possibility
of t wo Planning Commi s sion members a nd t wo Chamber members f o r ming a comm itt ee
which might come up with an eq u i ta ble sol u tion.
After d i sc ussion , a mo t ion was made by Comm. Ree ves, sec onded b y Co mm. No ble,
that the aes t he tic and archite c tural comm i ttee t hat t he Commissio n had been
discus sing, wi t h resp ect to r es idence s -not be inclu ded at th is time. Motion
carri ed as follows:
AY ES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm. Noble, Reeves, Boice, Stabler
Comm. Armer. Chairman Viaul t
Comm. Ha milton
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, se conded by Comm . Boic e , t h at further a na lysis of
the aes thet ic sign poli c y group be post pone d, b ut that add~tional s tudy be
taken at the next regular Planning Commi ssi on meet ing. Th e re was d iscus sion, and
th e mo t ion and th e second were wi t hdrawn.
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SIGN COMMITTEE CONTINUED:
Motion was made by Chairman Viault, seconded by Comm. Boice, that we not have
an aesthetic committee at this time, but that it does deserve study. Due to
the implementation of the new Sign Ordinance, and some of the desirous elements
contained therein, it is felt at this time it is not necessary to have any
further controls of signs at this time, but that it will be considered in the
future. Motion was withdrawn, as was the second, in order that the motion
could be re-worqed.
Motion was then made by Chairman Viault, seconded by Comm. Boice, that a letter
be written to the City Council pointing out that at this time the Planning
Commission does not feel that an aesthetic sign control committee is necessary
and that until the Sign Ordinance has had an effectual period of operation,
that it should not be encumbered by any further sign guidance. The Planning
Commission f~rther suggests that they wi 11 continue to study the aesthetics of
signs and will make a recommendation to the City Counci 1 at a point in time,
when the recommendations of the businessmen of Hermosa Beach and those represent
ing the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach, will have established criteria
and standards which the aforesaid committee could operate.
Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm. Noble, Reeves, Boice, Chairman Viault
Comm. Armer, Stabler
Comm. Hami 1 ton
Comm. Armer stated his reason for voting 11 no11 as follows:
11 1 feel that we are not giving direction to the intent of our ordinance in
terms of creating eventual aesthetic recommendation or guides, and I feel
it was the Counci I 1 s request that we take more immediate action than would
seem to be a part of the motion.11
CONTINUED REVIEW OF R3-R zone and possible amendment to Zoning Ordinance
The Commission reviewed the rough draft which had been prepared by the Staff,
and Mr. Bud Trott explained the section which deals with Planned Unit Development.
It was felt that items a, band con page 5 of the draft, which deal with
increased crowding upon the property; reduced open space or increased land coverage;
reduced usable outdoor space, be deleted from the section dealing with Planned
Unit Development. If this section was intended to allow the Developer some r~lief,
it might be negated by the above mentioned items.
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Armer, to adopt P.C. Resolution
154-662, a ~esolution of Intention of the Planning Commission of the City of
Hermosa Beach to initiate action for the purpose of consideration of the
amendment of Ordinance N.S. 154 by adding Article 7,5 which shall include new
sections 750, 751 and 752 to said article, amend article 2 -Definitions, by
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R3-R CONTINUED:
adding Section 258, defining landscaping. Sections 750, 751 and 752 of
Article 7.5 shall establish a new residential zone for said City to be des
ignated as R3-R. Said zone shall include property development standards,
provide for provision for appooval of a planned unit development.
Pub] ic hearing to be held at the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission
on August 5, 1968.
Motion carried unanimously.
POST AGENDA ITEM -BILTMORE HOTEL
Mr. Bud M. Trott mentioned the possible development of th~ Bil~more site,
and the fact that the Council would like to have the thinking of the Planning
Commission relative to the best use, possibility of high rise, etc.
It was suggested that Beach Drive be abandoned or re-routed to make a more
attractive package. lt was also felt by the Commission that this particular
site could support highrise, and a combination of commercial, motels, apartments
would not be out of 1 ine for the location.
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Reeves, to adjoum the meeting.
Motion carried unanimously.
ADJOUR~MENT: · 9:50
~r, Secretary