HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1968_03_04MINUTES OF THE RBOULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION held at the City of
Hermosa Beach, California, in the Council Chambers at 7:30 p.m. on Monday,
March 4, 1968
ROLL CALL -Present: Comm. Armer, Stabler, Noble, Reeves, Boice, Hamilton,
Chairman Viault; Bud M. Trott, Building & Planning Director
Chairman Viault stated that he wished a correction of the minutes of the regular
meeting of February 13, 1968 to indicate vote on the call for question. He then
'made a motion to approve the minutes of February 13th as corrected. Motion was
seconded by Comm. Boice, and unanimously approved.
C & J CONSTRUCTION -ZONE VARIANCE
Public hearing of application for zone variance by C & J Construction, to erect
a 22 unit motel with one bedroom apartment for manager. Applicant requests
that 11 units have kitchen facilities. Property situated at 1402 Hermosa Avenue,
legally described as lots I and 2, block 33, 1st addition to Hermosa Beach tract.
Mr. Chris Caras, representing C & J Construction was present to speak, and he
explained that he had made a thorough survey of the area and had been advised
by various loan companies that it was not feasible to bui Id a motel without
some kitchen facilities. After questions by the Commission, Mr. Caras said
that the structure would be bui It as a motel, and the facilities would not be
used as apartments, since this would not be economically practical.
Plans of the structure were shown and Mr. Bud M. Trott, Building and Planning
Director, reviewed these with the Commission. There was further discussion about
the possibility of too many TV antennae on the roof of the motel, and also the
landscaping of an area beside the structure.
-Motion was made by Comm. Reeves, seconde~ by Comm. Boice, to grant the var1~nce;
There was further discussion, and Comm. Reeves amended his motion to include the
following conditions: The television hook-up for all units be made either to
the cable ser~ice which is available in this area, or that there be only one
main TV antenna installed on the roof of the building, and that there be
landscaping on the 14th street side of the structure, subject to approval and
recommendations of the Park Supervisor. Amended motion, seconded by Comm. Boice,
carried by uanimous vote.
Motion was then made by Comm. Reeves, seconded by Comm. Boice, to adopt P.C.
154-642, granting the variance with the conditions as outlined above, for the
following reasons:
1. This seems to be a proper use for the property in compliance with the General
Plan, and there seems to be a need for this type of bu~iness in the community.
2. It does not seem to pose any problems with respect to neighboring residences
or businesses.
3. The applicant has shown the Commission that the quality and type of construction
insure that the rates charged for motel facilities wil I make it impractical for
it to be rented as apartments.
Motion carried unanimously.
Planning Commission Pa ge 2 March 4, 1968
MADELYN JOHNSON -ZONE AMENDMENT -CONTINUED HEARING
Continued public hearing of application for zon e amendment by Madelyn Johnson
to rezone from R-1 to R-3 t hat portion of lot 5, block 83, second addition to
Henrosa Beac h, beginning at t he northeast co rner of said lot 5, thence southerly
112.5 ft . on the easterly line of said lo t 5, thence 351 .8 fee t in a wes t erly
direction to the westerly line of said lot 5, thence no rtherly along said westerly
line 112,5 feet to the northerly line of said lot, thence in an east e rly direction
along said northerly line 345 f eet to th e point of be ginning.
Th e minutes and data r e lative to this application whi c h was originally heard
on February 13th, were read aloud to those eommi ss ione rs who had not been present
at that meeting. Mr. Johnson was again present to speak for his wife, and he
comment e d that this request for zone ch ang e was in accord with t he de nsity
pattern laid out by t he Gene ral Plan for this particular area. There was no
one els e pres e nt to speak for or against th e application. Mr. Fred Reese asked
a question about the boundary lines involved on t h is parcel.
There were questions asked about the original lo t split, and the house which
exists on the parce l. Concern was expressed that without a plan having been
presented, there was no way of foretelling what type of deve lopme nt might t ake
place, and whether certain stipulations could be placed which would insure the
proper development. The Commissi o ners were a dvi se d th at legally they could
place no stipulations on a zone change.
application for zone change would be
and t hat sh0uld he develop the lot as
wlth the General Plan. After discussion
Mr. Johnson said that he felt tha t the
in accord with the wish es 66 th e City,
R-1, it would appear to be in conflict
con ce rning the surrounding ar e a, motion
Comm. Reeves, to grant the zo ne change.
vote:
was made by Comm . Boice, s econded by
Motion failed t o carry by the following
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm. Stabler, Hamilton, Boic e
Comm. Reeves, Armer, Noble, Chairman Viault
None
Motion was then mad e by Comm. Nobl e, secon ded by Comm. Reeves, t o adopt a Resolution
of Inten tion to s t udy pos sib l e re-zoning of the ar ea s between 21st Street and
Arte s ia, a nd Prospect and Pacific Coast Highway as possible R-3 z oning. It was
decidad not to vote on this moti on , but to discuss this at a l ater time.
Motion wa s then made by Chairman Viault, seconded by Comm . Armer, to adopt P.C.
154-643 , deny in g the application on the grounds that it did not carry sufficient
votes for affirmative action. Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
ABSENT:
Comm. Reeves, Armer, Nobl e, Stabler, Chairman Viaul t
None
Comm. Hamilton, Boice
None
Planning Commi s sion Pag e 3 March 4, 1968
ALTA DENA DAI RY -CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Public h e aring of applicati o n for c o ndi t io nal use permit by Alta Dena Dairy to
erect a retail d r ive-in dairy s tor e . (Business hours from 8 a.m. to 9 p.m.
daily). Proper t y situated at 205 Pi e r Av e nue, l eg ally de scri b ed as lo t 1, block 49,
1s t addi t ion to Hermosa Beach t ract.
Di a grams and p la ns of th e proposed structur e were shown to t h e Comm is s io n .
Mr. John St evens, Director of Publi c Works, explai ned a proposed modifi c ation at
this parti c ular location, whi c h the Cit y would p u rsue in t he future. Questions
conc erning i ngre s s an d e gress we re asked, and the t raffic pattern wh ich the
ap pl i c an t had laid out. There were further questi ons from the Corrvn issi o n
regarding cost of the project and wh a t type o f sign would be used for id e ntifi c ation
purposes.
Speak i ng in f avor of the applica t ion wa s Mr. Ma t hews of 1401 Wayne Ave., South
Pasad e na, and form e r own e r of the prope rty. S pe aking in oppositi o n was Mr. And e rson
of 81 l 7th S t reet .
Mr. Harry Le e , repr e sentative for Alta De na Dairy, ans wered questi o ns abo ut the
development. Mr . Wesley Mc Daniel, City Manager, reminded the Comm i s sion t hat
when t hey made their deter mination, they migh t t ake in to cons i deration t h e
p reci s e plannlng whi c h had been do ne fo r t he ge ne ral ar e a.
Mr. Gi 1 de Mon t esq u i o ux, loc al businessman, spoke and expre sse d the o pinion
that He rmosa Be ach nee ds bu s iness , and th a t new bus ine ss es sh o uld not be di s couraged.
Motion wa s ma de b y Comm . Noble, s e conded by Comm. Boice, to gr a nt t he app lica tio n
subj ec t t o i mpr o vemen t s outlined by the City Engi neer f o r th e particular ar e a,
and bas e d on approval of th e City Engi neer re g ard i ng i ngress and egre s s. There
was some discu ss ion about d a t a whi c h the City St a ff had prepare d, and s ugg est i ons
whi c h we r e made wit h co ncern t o the proper t y in q uestion, a nd Cormi . Noble
amended his motion, wi t h approval o f amend men t by Comm . Bo ice who had s econd e d
th e motion, to g rant th e ap p l i c a ti o n wit h the following p rovisions:
1 . The nec essary ingre s s and egress will be bas ed o n t he recommendati o ns submitted
by the City Engineer.
2. A four foot b loc k wall will be erectcld o n the northerly and ea sterly pro pe rty
I i nes.
3. One pole sign to be erected and to b e i n c o nfor mi ty wi th the propos e d sign
ordina nc e.
4. There wi I I be no te mporary window or wall signs o n the p re mises .
5. La ndsca p ing to be approved by the Park Supe rv isor, and to be maintain e d by
a sprinkler system.
6. All ligh t stand ards on the p r e mises to be so arranged t ha t no lig h t wi ll
s h ine on surrounding r e sidential ar e ai.
7, No consumption o f food on th e premi s e s.
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Planning Commission Page 4
ALTA DENA CONTINUED:
Motion carried by following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
ABSENT:
Comm. Noble, Hamilton, Boice, Chairman Viault
Comm. Armer, Stabler
Comm. Reeves (conflict of interests)
None
March 4, 1968
Motion was then made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Boice, to adopt P.C.
Resolution 154-644, granting condition use permit with the provisions as outlined
in original motion, and for the reasons:
I. It is felt that this type of development would be an asset to the commercial growth
of the downtown business district.
2. That it is not in conflict with the Master Plan,
3. That it is not detrimental to those people in the surrounding areas.
4. With the provisions, as out! ined, it is felt that the necessary controls
have been effected on a drive-in type of operation of this nature.
Motion carried by following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
ABSENT:
Comm. Noble, Hamilton, Boice, Chairman Viault
Comm. Armer, Stabler
Comm. Reeves
None
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING OF PROPOSED SIGN ORDINANCE
Present to speak for the ~hamber of Commerce, Mr. William Boullt advised the
Commission that over 300 people had attended various Chamber meetings to discuss
the proposed sign ordinance and express their thoughts on the subject. Mr.
Boullt felt that the recommendations of the Chamber reflected the wishes of
the business community, and that these wishes should be followed.
Speaking in favor of the recommendations were the following people: Mr. Dan
Revill, Bank of America; Mr. Metzger, owner of six commercial buildings along
Pier Avenue; Mr. Fred Reese, Coast Drugs; Mr. Erickson, State Farm Insurance;
Wayne Tezak, 1401 Hermosa Avenue; Bob Jean, i 1 Jean 1 s Apparel ;11 Gil Montesquioux,
owner of local beauty salon; Mr. Moffit, Whittier, California.
Comm. Boice showed the Commission pictures taken in Arcadia of a deteriorated
business area without signs, and an article in a newspaper pertinent to the
subject. The Commission discussed the proposed ordinance and considered the
comments of those who had spoken in favor of the Chamber recommendations.
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Boice, to recommend adoption
of the ordinance to the City Counci 1, in its entirety with the inclusion of the
recommendations of the Chamber of Commerce. Motion failed to carry as follows:
Planning Commission Page 5 March 4, 1968
SIGN ORDINANCE CONTINUED:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Hamilton, Boice
Conm. Armer, Stabler
Chairman Viault
For lack of the necessary five votes required to pass a zone change, thought
was given to the possibility of changing the rules of the Planning Commission,
with respect to the required number of votes. Motion was made by Comm. Hamilton,
seconded by Comm. Noble, that the rules and regulations be set aside for
this matter only, and that the Planning Commission forward the sign ordinance
with the vote as it came out in the motion, as a majority of four affirmative
votes, for their consideration.
There was additional discussion, and a compromise which might be agoeeable to
all concerned parties was reviewed. Motion was made by Comm. Reeves, seconded
by Comm. Boice, to recommend to the City Counci I adoption of the sign ordinance
incorporating the recommendations of the Chamber of Commerce, with the exception
of the recommendation for page 14, paragraph 5 which reads: 11 No portion of a
sign shall be higher than 15 1 above the parapet wall, roof or ridge line of a
building, whichever is the lesser,11 to read: "No portion of a sign shall be
higher than 10 feet above the parapet wall, roof or ridge line of a building
whichever is the greater.11 Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Hamilton, Boice, Chairman Viault
Comm. Armer and Stabler
None
Comm. Armer stated his reason for vat i ng 1 ' no11 as fa 11 ows: The aesthetics of
the community will not be served by that correction, and in the interest of
of my role as a Planning Commissioner, the over-all effect on the business
environment is what I am concerned with.
Motion was then made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Boice, to adopt P.C. 154-
645 recommending adoption of the sign ordinance to the City Council, as set forth.
Motion carried by following vote;
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Hamilton, Boice, Chairman Viault
Comm. Armer, Stabler
None
TIME EXTENSION ZONE VARIANCE -IRIS MCKINLEY
Mrs. McKinley was present to explain that the tight money situation necessitated
this request for time extension of zone variance granted to her on April 11, 1966
P.C. 154-577, to erect two unit dwelling on R-3 lot with 2310 sq. ft. land area in
lieu 2400 sq. ft. required, on property situated at 920 Loma, lot 13, tract 1516.
Although an extension had been granted March 13, 196~ to the present date, she
Planning Commis si on Page 6 March 4, 1968
IRIS MCKINLEY-CONTI NUEO:
s till required additional time. Motion was made by Comm. Noble, second e d
by Comm. Boice to grant a n extensio n for one more year, an d mo t ion c arr ied
unani mously.
CORRESPONDENCE FRO.M CITY CLERK RE 11 J OE CISCO"
CORRESPONDENCE FROM CITY CLERK RE HAGGERTY AND PALMER
Received and fil ed .
*
The Commission reques t ed that the matt e r o f re-zoning to R-3, previously discussed
during the hearing for Madelyn J o hnson, and con s ideration of other areas designated
for high density on th e Gen e ral Plan be placed on th e agenda for workshop meet ing
on March 18, 1968. The y also requested the letter from Abraam Krushkhov be
discussed at that time, and that this rnatte-rgalso be.,e,,l'aced on the workshop agenda. \1 /)'
ADJOURNMENT: 12 Midni ght ,,/ Cj,. #t-znf.,/t._ ___ >
John/Armer, 7 Secretary
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