HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1969_06_02MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELO IN
THE CI_TV OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AT
8:00 P.H., ON MONDAY, JUNE 2, 1969.
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 8:00 P.H.
ROLL CALL -Present: Convn. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Armer, Chairman
Boice; Robert Crawford, Planning Director.
Absent Comm. Collis and Hamilton.
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, seconded by COf1'11', Reeves, to approve the
minutes of May 19, 1969. Motion carried as follows:
AYES: Comn. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Armer, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Motion was made by CollJD. Reeves, seconded by Comm. Armer, to approve the
minutes of April 21, 1969, which had been previously tabled for further
study. Motion carried as follows:
AVES:
NOES:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Armer, Chairman Boice
None
Variance 69-14
APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE BY ALYCE V. ROGERS from provisions of Sections
403 and 404 of City Zoning Ordinance N.S. 154, as amended, as applied to
lots 35 and 36 of Walter Ransom Company's Redondo Homes Tract, located
at 1238 24th Street, Hermosa Beach, in an R-1 zone, in order to continue
the use of a non~conforming addition to a conforming dwelling; said
addition having a O foot rear and side yard instead of the 5 feet required
by Ordinance.
This request resulted from a conformance inspection of the building; and
the Planning Director suggested to the Conmission that a policy should be
developed to guide the Planning C00111ission and the property owners in the
City in considering such technically illegal additions or conversions, for
which the present owners were not responsible. He said there were two
ways to make the addition under consideration legal; (1) tear it down, and
(2) obtain from the City a variance from the side and rear yard require
ments so that the building existing on them would be permitted.
Comm. Reeves asked if a building permit had been obtained and if the con
struction had been done to code. The Planning Director replied that they
had not. He said that their present plan was to remove a portion of the
non-conforming building which is a workshop, and leave only the den.
Corrm. Armer asked about the set back of the house and was told that it
is 5 feet G Inches on one side and 4 feet on the other.
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P1anning C01Tmission Minutes Page 2 June 2, I 969
Public hearing opened at 8:05 p.m.
Chairman Boice asked Hrs. Alyce Rogers when the room was constructed,
and by whom and whether it had been occupied as a den. She answered
that it was constructed in 1953 by her husband and his co-worker and
was sti11 occupied as a den.
Comm. Reeves asked the Planning Director how it came to the City's
attention, who replied that in the process of purchasing the property
a Certificate of Compliance had been requested. As a result of the
inspection, the City no.t has no option but to insist on corrections.
Chairman Boice asked if there was anything detrimental in this den. Kr.
Crawford said that the neighbors did.not object or appear to have any
problems from it.
No one appeared to speak agains~ the request. Public hearing closed at
8:I0p.m.
Chairman Boice asked if it could be brought up to code, and Mr. Crawford
replied that the Building Director thought it could.
Conm. Stabler asked In what way It did not conform, and Hr. Crawford
said that vents to heaters, vents to bathroom, and minor wiring problems
needed to be corrected.
Convn. Reeves asked if any other structures had been built to the property
I ine, and was informed that others in the area had structures on or
near the lot line.
Chairman Boice convnented that It would not be feasible to chop it off,
and that the Conwission should set a law that would pinpoint anything
of this nature which had been constructed prior to the 1956 ordinance.
CollVll, Stabler mentioned the Gordon Whitnall meeting and the inconsistencies
in planning, and the great degree of variations between the type of com
mitments made by the Planning Corrmission. He further stated that he felt
the Planning Director's idea of forming a committee so that a basis
could be established to judge these cases was valuable, and he would like
to hold this particular case in abeyance until a system is available to
approach it properly.
Convn. Reeves asked whether It was constructed on two lots, and was told
It was on two, R-1 lots.
Comm. Armer asked if any degree of urgency was involved, and Mr. Crawford
said that the applicant did have a buyer, but could not sell the property
until a variance is obtained. He said the question the Commission had
to decide was whether a variance was justified in this case.
Chairman Boice said he could not see where it was detrimental to the ad
joining properties.
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Planning Corqnission Minutes Page 3 June 2, 1969
Hr. Crawford said that eventually the property would probably be sold
and replaced with apartments.
Motion made by Corm. Reeves to grant the application of variance. Seconded
by Comm. Armer.
AVES: Comm. Armer, Reeves, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Comm. Noble, Stabler
Motion made by COIMI. Reeves, seconded by Comm. Armer, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-726, approv·ing a variance for property owned by Hrs. Alyce V.
Rogers, from provisions of Sections 403½, 404 of City Zoning Ordinance
N.S. 154, as amended, as applied to lots 35 and 36 of Walter Ransom
Company 1 s Redondo Homes Tract, located at 1238 24th Street, in an R-1
zone, in order to continue use of a non-conforming addition to a con
forming dwelling, based on the following reasons:
I. According to the testimony of the appl leant, the non-conforming
addition was made about 1953, when City inspections were less
adequate.
2. The size of the property involved (50 1 x 100') on two lots, with
the single dwelling straddling both of these lots, which provides
adequate open space despite the encroachment into the rear and
side yards.
J. The applicant has proven a hardship with respect to the sale of
the property,· as we)l as bringing the addition to the property
to conformity would be a hardship since in doing so it is
questionable whether the remaining area would be usable.and
the fireplace would have to be demolished.
4. As a condition to the granting of this variance, the addition
will have to be brought up to current code requirements.
AYES: Comn. Armer, Coom. Reeves, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Comm. Noble, CO!Ml, Stabler
Motion was made by Conin. Armer, seconded by Comm. Stabler, asking that
the Planning Corrmission put on their study list consideration of forming
a committee which would establish a basis for judging non-conforming
property. Unanimous.
Conditional Use Permit 69-8
APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY RONALD M. LANGSETH ANO LUIS
LEON under provisions of 801 (2) of City Zoning Ordinance N.S. 154, as
amended, in order to manufacture pottery ware for sale at retail on the
premises, located on lots 2 and 4 of Mission Tract of Hermosa Beach,
known as 246 Pacific Coast Highway, Hermosa Beach.
Planning C011mlssion Minutes Page 4 June 2, 1969
The Planning Director explained that the ordinance allows limited manu
facturing in a C-3 zone and the applicants wished to assemble goods and
create products to be sold at retail on the premises. They proposed
to buy a building and convert part of the building into material storage
and ma nufacturing of the ceramic products. They would have an electric
kiln. He said that the proposal had not been approved by the Building
Department because the Building Director first wished to determine
whether the Planning CotMtission felt the use was reasonable. He said
that if the application is approved, his recommendations would be:
1. That the use be subject to the approval of the Building and Fire
Departments as safe for the use.
2, That the kiln and all appurtenances be removed upon cessation
of the use.
3. That no wholesaling be conducted; all products to be sold on
the premises.
4. That the permit be subject co,review and reconsideration one
year from date of approval.
Public hearing opened at 8:30 p.m.
Kr. Ronald Langseth, 536 33rd Street, Manhattan Beach, said that he had
canvassed the neighborhood and talked with most of the merchants as
well as filing a petition, and there had been no objections to the kiln
and pottery manufacturing. Hr. Langseth presented a diagram for the
typical installation; for venting, etc.
In answer to questioning from Co1m1. Reeves concerning type of goods to
be made and sold, Mr. Langseth said tha.t the articles would be high fire
ware, catering to the decorative line rather than eating utensils.
COlml. Reeves conmented on the beautiful elevation of the building.
Co1m1. Stabler asked if the fact that they could not whole sale would
impose a hardship on them. Hr. Langseth said it would not.
The Planning Director said the ordinance requirements were to prevent
the possibility of the retail business becoming a manufacturing business.
Conm. Reeves conmented that it was almost an arts and crafts category.
No one appeared to speak against the request. Public hearing closed at
8:45 p.m.
Motion by Comm. Reeves, seconded by Corrwn. Stabler, that the conditional
use permit be granted.
AYES: Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Armer, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Hotion made by Conm. Reeves, seconded by Conm. Stabler, for the adoption
of P.C. 154-727, to grant a conditional use permit to Ronald M. Langseth
and Luis Leon under provisions of Section 801 {2) of City Zoning Ordinance
Plannin9 Commission Minutes Page 5 June 2, 1969
N.S. 154, in order to manufacture ceramic wares for sale at retail on
the premises; lots 2 and 4 of Mission Tract of Hermosa Beach, known as
246 Pacific Coast Highway; based on the following:
I. That the applicant is apparently purchasing the property in
its entirety and plans to do some extensive upgrading of the
c011Y11ercial and residential portions;
2. The applicant submitted a petition to the Commission signed by
surrounding residents and businessmen showing that they were not
opposed to the installation of a kiln and manufacturing opera
tion as proposed at this location;
J. After discussion with the applicant this Conmission feels that
the nature of the applicant's request for manufacturing may be
a misnomer as it appears to border on a minor assembly or arts
and crafts; and subject to the following condition:
This conditional use permit to be subject to review one year
from date of issuance.
AYES: Conm. Armer, Stabler, Noble, Reeves, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Convn. Armer comnented on the junk, old cars and trash on the adjoining
property south of 246 Pacific Coast Highway and wondered if it were the
City's impound lot. Assistant City Manager Weber said that the Nuisance
Abatement Board is processing six cars a week, and that the ~ity 1 s im
pound lot is not located there but on Third Street.
Conditional Use Permit 69-9
APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY C. F. KARHART, agent for Pizza
Palace Restaurant, under provisions of 801 (la) and (4) of City Zoning
Ordinance N.S. 154, as amended, in order to sell beer as part of a pizza
restaurant and take-out pizza business, on a portion of the combined
lots of Record of Survey Hap 3371, block II, Page 150, known as 1110
Pacific Coast Highway, located at the intersection of Pier Avenue and
Pacific Coast Highway (former Cutter Ford automobile sales 1ot).
Planning Director said that the proposed business was to be a part of
the small shopping center as shown on the plan presented. It will have
a 20 foot frontage and 2,200 square feet. They propose to sell beer and
wine as a normal part of the operation, and the City requires a condi
tional use permit. Planning Director read letters protesting the estab-
1 ishment of this business from Or. Dale Glick, Superintendent of Hermosa
Beach Schools, Mr. James Hudson, 1294 Ocean, and Hr. J.B. Schmolle, 930
Montgomery Drive. He further conmented that the Police Chief had not
had an opportunity to present a positive or negative recommendation
because of lack of information.
Public hearing opened at 9:00 p.m.
Planning CollVllission Minutes Page 6 June 2, 1969
Mr. Tom Kidder, 128o9 Kalnor, Norwalk, represented Hr. Karhart.
COfMI. Armer asked if there would be live entertainment. Hr. Kidder
said that no live entertainment would be provided, but would consist
of a juke box, continuous stereo tape, and old-time movies such as
W. C. Fields and Laurel and Hardy.
Conm. Noble asked if the sale of beer and wine was necessary in selling
pizza, and Hr. Kidder said it was hard to separate them.
Comm. Reeves said that the letter had stated that the total gross sales
of beer and wine would not exceed 15 or 20 percent. Mr. Kidder explained
that the beer and wine is only sold for consumption on the premises and
not to go, and that the pizza is largely sold to go.
Conm. Noble suggested that a number of people might be budgeted minded and
if they did not spend on beer they might spend on additional pizza.
Co11V11. Reeves questioned why it was necessary to grant the conditional
use permit at this time when construction has not begun on the shopping
complex yet.
Chairman Boice spoke of a letter from the Superintendent of Schools
asking that the Planning Comnission postpone approval until the School
Board members could be notified and he could ascertain their feelings
on the question of beer and wine at this location, across from Pier
Avenue school,
Convn. Armer asked Hr. Kidder how he felt, and was told that he had been
instructed to ask for a continuance if there were any problems.
Hr. W. G. Stuntz, Jr., 912 13th Street, said that he felt noise from
the continuous tape would cause annoyance to the neighbors, as this had
been a problem with the previous business.
Chairman Boice said that noise emission would depend on the type of
building they will be erecting, and it might not be offensive.
Assistant City Manager Weber said that when the appl leant comes before
the City Council for an entertainment license, the noise level can be
controlled at that time.
Hr. George Painter, 914 13th Street, comnented that because of his job
at the Post Office. he goes to work at 3:00 a.m., and the fact that the
Pizza Palace will remain open until 2:00 a.m. may prevent him from getting
his sleep. He mentioned previous experience of City with a Pizza Palace
on Pacific Coast Highway (Tina's -Odessey).
Hr. John Meyer, 12305 Norwalk Boulevard, Norwalk, Manager of Norwalk
Pizza Palace, spoke from the point of view of a former South Bay resident.
He said that the store in Norwalk abutted the Pallison Elementary School
and was part of a shopping center, and adjoining houses directly abut
the premises. There have been no complaints, and movies and juke box
are going continuously.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 7 June 2, 1969
Chairman Boice said he could appreciate the feeling of the residents
because for years they had had smoke from cars and noise.
Hr. Heyer said he was aware of what the Ford agency was like, but he
felt that since Pizza Palace personnel involved themselves in the com
munity {Little League, etc.) the effect would be different.
Public hearing closed.
Motion by Comm. Reeves, seconded by Conm. Noble, to carry over the
matter until the meeting of June 16, and requested that more detailed
plans be supplied by the Bacons to show the people in the area what they
might expect.
AYES:
NOES:
Cornn. Armer, Stabler, Noble, Reeves, Chairman Boice
None
Addition of Section 1226 to Ordinance N.S. 154
A Resolution of Intention was adopted at the last meeting to hold a
hearing to consider amending the Sign Regulations to allow the C0t1V11ission
through a review rather than variance to approve more than three colors
for any sign when such colors are compatible with surrounding area.
Public hearing opened at 9:23 p~m.
No one appeared to speak for or against the proposed amendment.
Public hearing closed at 9:25 p.m.
Motion by Comm. Armer, seconded by Conm. Stabler, to recolllllend to the
City Council for adoption, Resolution P.C. 154-728, which will effect
the sign ordinance by allowing the Planning Commission to review those
signs which are not in keeping with signs in conmercial areas and signs
of more than three colors or hues. This has been reviewed by the Chamber
of Commerce and has been recolllllended by the Planning Director.
Bills before State Assembly
Planning Director reviewed two bills pending before State Assembly, one
of which would require all counties to have an element in their general
plan called the Shoreline Development Program and would make it mandatory
I ike the housing element, and the other would result in certain restric
tions placed on the cities such as:
I. To require mixing of dwelling types in residential zones,
2. Require the city to defer to regional planning organizations,
3. Restrict the city from regulating architectural design, and
4. Encourage strip zoning.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 8 June 2, 1969
Kotlon by Comm. Armer, seconded by Corm. Noble, to authorize the
Planning Director to direct a letter to Assemblyman Beverly strongJy
opposing the two bills.
AYES ; Unanimous.
ADJOURNMENT: 9:30 p.m.