HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1969_05_05MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD IN
THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AT
8:00 p.m., ON MONDAY, MAY 5, 1969.
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 8 :02 P.M.
ROLL CALL -Present: Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Collis, Armer,
Chairman Boice; Robert Crawford, Planning Director
Absent Comm. Hamilton
Motion was made by Co1TVTJ. Reeves, seconded by Comm. Noble, to waive
approval of the minutes from the regular meeti ng of April 21, 1969
until the Commission has more time to study them. Motion carried
as follows:
AYES: COIMl. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Comm. Armer arrived at 8:05 p.m,
L-69-1 & L-69-2
APPLICATION FOR TWO LOT SPLITS BY HERBERT ROSENKRANTZ for permission
to divide two non-adjacent lots into two lots each (total of 4 lots),
with variances from Sections 602, 605, 1220, 1223, 1224 of Zoning
Ordinance, as amended , as applied to lots 5 & 7 of block A of tract
1677, known as 815 and 835 Loma Drive, in order to create two addi
tional lots without street frontage and reduce lot areas of all four
new lots to 1395 square feet instead of the 4000 square feet required
by Ordinance (existing lot areas 2790 square feet).
The Planning Director explained to the Commission that with the adop
tion of the lot split ordinance (N.S. 300), the City precluded divi
sion of lots into parcels smaller than 4,000 square feet. The City
also then indicated that alleys less than 21 feet wide could no longer
be considered streets, whether named or not. The applicant wishes
to divide two 30 1 x 93 1 lots in half with two of the resultant lots
having frontage only on Sunset, and no access to Loma Drive. He
stated the staff and a committee of the Planning Commission had given
this matter extensive study and that in his opinion the disadvantages
of this proposal outweigh the advantages.
Public hearing opened at 8:07 p.m.
Herbert Rosenkrantz, 3629 Navaho Place, Palos Verdes Estates, appeared
to speak in favor of his proposal. He stated that his reasons behind
this type of lot split were: I. It will result in the removal of
substandard shacks in the area. 2. It will eliminate undesirable
homes in the area, 3. It will bring in high-quality homes with owner
occupancy. He further stated that the property , as is, could be
rented now, but it would not be as attractive as new homes on the lots.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 2 May 5, 1969
As no one else appeared to speak in favor of the request, Mr. Peter
Paton, 865 Loma Drive, Hermosa Beach, appeared to speak against the
request. He presented the Commission with a petition signed by 12
separate names stating their disapproval of the proposed lot splits.
Mr. Paton expressed his own concern for congestion in the area due
to adding more people. He also expressed concern for sanitation,
health, and fire problems which might occur if more people were intro
duced into this area. Mr. Paton also explained that no landscaping
had been shown on the plot plan.
The Planning Director read to the Commission the names on the petition.
Mr. Hagerty, 1917 Hermosa Avenue, Hermosa Beach, a developer, wished
to know what hardship was being imposed on Mr. Rosenkrantz 1 s lots
which make it necessary to grant a variance. Mr. Rosenkrantz stated
he had no comment to the question, Mr. Hagerty read a letter he had
written to the Commission stating that this lot split and variance
would be:
1. Contrary to policy of the City Council and Planning Commission,
2, If it is desirable to have change in zone in this area, it
should occur as a zone change effecting all property and not
as a variance/lot split giving the benefit to this applicant
only,
3, This proposal is against the basic idea of the Zoning Ordin
ance. It would be better to change the Zoning Ordinance tha n
to grant this variance.
Mr. Hagerty went on to say that if there is a hardship on this property,
it is the same hardship that exists on all other properties in this
area. A zone change would be a much better idea.
Comm. Collis arrived at 8:16 p.m.
Public hearing closed at 8: 17 p,m. as no one else appeared to speak.
Comm, Stabler opened Commission discussion by stating he did not feel
that this request would qualify in ~ny way according to the Zoning
Regulations, and agreed with Mr. Paton that if anything were to be
granted in this area, it would have to be a zone amendment not just a
variance/lot split.
Motion made by Comm, Stabler to grant the reques t of Herbert Rosen•
krantz for two lot splits,
Comm. Noble stated that zoning should control density in a certain
sense and perhaps at this time something of this type would be pre
mature.
Comm. Armer explained to the Commisslo11 and audience that during the
present lot split studies, a committee of the Planning Commission has
been striving to create an ordinance which would improve the environ-
ment and attract higher-qua! ity homes. They are doing this by putting
emphasis on new, single-family homes which would be owner-occupied,
Planning Commission Minutes Page 3 May 5, 1969
This will stop the increase in transient residents. He explained
briefly his meeting with Mr. Gehry, who felt that townhouses could
be used effectively in Hermosa Beach,
Comm, Stabler's motion was seconded by Comm. Reeves. Motion failed
as follows:
AVES: None
NOES: Comm, Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Armer, Chairman Boice
PASS: Comm. Col I is
Comm. Coll is stated he did not have enough information to vote, as
he had just entered the meeting.
Comm. Boice stated that he was in accord with lot splits providing
the Commission can get development standards to protect the surround
ing property.
Motion was made by Comm. Stabler, seconded by Comm, Reeves, to adopt
Resolution P.C. 154-714, denying the request of Herbert Rosenkrantz
for two lot splits with variances from-Sections 602, 605, 1220, 1223,
and 1224 of Zoning Ordinance on lots 5 & 7 of block A of tract 1677,
known as 815 and 835 Loma Drive. Motion carried as follows:
NOES:
A¥ES:
PASS:
c-69-7
None
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Armer, Chairman Boice
Comm. Coll is
APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY WAYNE TEZAK, AGENT FOR
FOUR WINDS RESTAURANT, as required in Section 801 (4) of City Zoning
Ordinance N.S. 154, as amended, in order to conduct a restaurant and
cocktail lounge on ~ots 28 and 29 of block 15, Hermosa Beach tract,
knO#n as 1401 Hermosa Avenue.
The Planning Director explained that this request has been continued
so that plot plans could be submitted by the applicant, and a pol ice
report could be obtained from the Pol ice Chief, He then read the
Pol ice Chief 1 s report to the Commission. He stated that this report
'"as non-committal; but stated that if approval was granted, the Pol ice
Chief suggests that adjacent stores be incorporated into the dining
area and the door from cock ta i 1 lounge be used for ex i t on I y.
The Planning Director stated that the only other correspondence on
this request is from the staff. He stated that the closest example
of this type of request was a previously granted request by Veronica
and Ricardo Real. In the case of their restaurant, the cocktail lounge,
which is actually a customer waiting area, not a cocktail lounge avail
able to all, amounts to only 1/5 of the total dining area. They were
required by the Commission to close at midnight, He stated that with
a few minor changes, Mr, Tezak could have the same type of request.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 4 May 5 , 1969
REQU IRED CONSIDERATIONS :
1. Distance from residences: SO feet.
2, Exi s ting and proposed off-street parking: None
3. Distance of nearest church or school: 400 feet.
4. Hours of operation: 10 :00 a,m. to 2:00 a,m.
5. Combination of uses: Restaurant & cocktail lounge .
6. Number of on-sale 1 iquor establishments in area:
a.
b.
c.
d.
Restaurants with beer and wine:
Restaurants with hard liquor
"Bonaf i de Res taurant11 -Bars
Bars
TOTAL
ADD ITIO NAL CONS IDERA TIONS :
4 {including applicant).
1
3
3
1 I
I. All other establishments in this area either have off-street
parking or are in the Parking District.
2. Only Little Pietro's (beer & wine) and Callahan 1 s (11 8ona
fide eating plac&' bar) are within 50 feet of r esidential
zone.
3. Hours of operation reflect use to be primarily Cocktail lounge
at late night (l 1 :00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m.).
Public hearing opened at 8:37 p.m. and Mr. Tezak appeared before the
Commission. He stated he had nothing new to add concerning his re
quest, but would be happy to answer any questions posed.
Speaking against the request was Mrs. Dorothy Becker, 2432 Myrtle
Avenue, Hermosa Beach. She stated she 1 ike the glass front on the
Surf and Sirloin Restaurant, but was opposed to the boarded-up ap
pearance of his new Four Winds Restaurant.
Public hearing closed at 8:38 p.m.
Comm. Noble asked the applicant if there was a possibility of obtain
ing the adjacent property. Mr. Tezak stated that he has an option on
both adjoining stores, which he intends to exercise as soon as approval
is made,
Comm. Boice wished to know if the option was his choice, and Mr. Tez ak
stated it was.
Comm, Armer stated that at the last publ le hearing Mr. Tezak had stated
that if his request was not granted he wou ld be forced to relocate .
He wished to kna.,.., why Mr. Tezak had changed his mind and continued with
his restaurant. Mr. Tezak stated that he had acquired a new chief,
which had made it possible to continue his restaurant until an alcoholic
beverage 1 i cens e could be obtained.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 5 May 5, l 969
Comm. Noble wished to know when Mr. Tezak proposed to close his kit
chen. He stated he would close his kitchen at 11:00 p.m. He would
also close his restaurant at midnight on weekends and make the cock
tail lounge door exit only.
Comm. Stabler wished to know if the Commission would have the final
say on hours or would the State, since it would be granting the
alcoholic beverage license.
The Planning Director stated that the State normally places the same
conditions on an ABC 1 icense that the City imposes on the conditional
use permit.
Comm. Reeves told the Commission that it has been the opinion of the
City Attorney that the conditions placed on conditional use permits
would not hold water if taken to court. He further stated that he
was not in favor of continuing this item any more, There are no
protests from residents or the Church. The option to obtain the ad
jacent stores should not be a condition for granting. The hours of
operation should be as the State requests for cocktail lounges and
should coincide with cocktail lounges in the City.
The Planning Director suggested that the Commission make sure just
what it is they are granting. Is the request a bonifide restaurant
with cocktail lounge or a cocktail lounge with food as a sideline?
He stated that the Commission should be consistant in their decisions.
They have already established a pattern in the granting of Ricardo's
request. Ricardo's cocktail lounge is 1/5 of the total dining area
and they close the establishment at or before midnight.
Comm. Armer wanted to knD'r<I the density figures of other establishments
in the City. Comm. Boice read to him from the Planning Director's
analysis the number of bars, restaurants, etc. in this area of the
City.
Comm. Armer stated that he believed the Commission was being unduly
pressured because the applicant has already started a restaurant. We
will not be serving any good by allowing a bar in this location. This
restaurant, as proposed, no,,.r consists of 50 percent bar.
Comm. Boice stated that the applicant has agreed to close at midnight
and to exercise his option in purchasing the adjacent stores. He
should not be forced to purchase the needed parking spaces now. He
stated the follc,.,.iing steps should be taken: l. First we must get
a closing time. 2, Decide whether it is necessary to obtain ad
jacent stores. 3, Decide ratio of bar area to dining area. 4.
Decide if it is necessary for him to immediately obtain parking
spaces. In regard to the parking, Comm. Boice stated he did not
feel it was of any great importance to obtain parking immediately
at this time as many people could walk to the restaurant and there
was City parking close at hand. He believes that cocktails are
oriented to Mr. Tezak's type of restaurant.
Comm. Noble stated that the Commission is going to have to decide
just what their policy concerning this type of request is to be.
He s uggested establishing a ratio of 11waiting area 11 to dining area.
This ratio should not exceed 1/3 11waiting area 11 to 2/3 dining area,
Also , most of this type of business do not have parking adjacent to
Planning Commission Minutes Page 6 May 5, I 969
the restaurant. The midnight closing hour should be reviewed at
the end of one yeaj,
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, s econded by Comm. Coll is, to grant
the request for a conditional use permit by Wayne Tezak for the Four
Winds Restaurant. Motion passed as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Coll is, Chairman Boice
Comm. Stabler, Armer
Comm. Armer stated that his reason for voting no was based on the
belief that the use of this property would eventually graduate to
cocktail lounge use only in this area, and at this time it would
serve no planning purpose to grant the request,
Motion to adopt Resolution P.C. 154-715, granting the request of
Wayne Tezak, agent for Four Winds Restaurant, for a conditional use
permit to conduct a restaurant and cocktail lounge on lots 28 & 29
of block 15, Hermosa Beach tract, known as 1401 Hermosa Avenue, was
made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Coll is. Resolution to be sub
ject to the following conditions:
l. Increase the size of the establ i-shment by enlarging the
dining area with the two adjacent stores the appl leant
has option on.
2, Ratio between dining area and 11 cocktail waiting area 11 to
be 2/3 to 1/3, respectively. Cocktail area to be no more
than 1/3 of gross floor area,
3, Hours of operation limited to 12:00 midnight for dispensing
of alcoholic beverages.
4. Make door in cocktail waiting area emergency exit only.
S. Conditional use permit granted, subject to review In one
year.
Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
z-69-2
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Coll is, Boice
Convn, Stabler, Armer
APPLICATION FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE BOUNDARIES OR CLASSIFICATION BY
LLOYD & BETTY LEONARD -AGENT RIDOLE & ROSS -pursuant to the pro
visions of Article 16 of City Zoning Ordinance N.S. 154, as amended,
in order to change land-use zone classification from R-1, single
family residential to R-3, multiple-family residential on lots 6 &
7 of block 81 of 2nd Addition to Hermosa Beach, know n as 1728 to
1826 Ardmore Avenue,
The Planning Director explained to the Commission that the request
is to change the zoning on a trailer park in order to make it
Planning Commission Minutes Page 7 May 5, J 969
multiple-family residential. He stated that the property to the
south has already been rezoned. He stated that this request is in
harmony with the General Plan, will speed development of the area,
and will be of general benefit to the City.
Public hearing opened at 9:25 p.m.
William Ross, 700 17th Street, Manhattan Beach, appeared to speak
as the representative in escrow of the applicant. He stated that
trailer parks are generally considered to be an undesirable use.
Uses of this type generally continue until a higher and better use
can be made. He stated that the proposed use for this land will be
J4o units with 210 garages, 58 percent of the land will be improved,
King Morison, architect, 158 No. Detroit Street, Los Angeles, stated
there would be 12 studio apartments, 16 one bedroom, 42 one bedroom
and den, 54 two bedroom with an additional 16 two bedroom apartments.
No one appeared to speak in opposition to the request. Public hear
ing closed at 9:31 p.m.
Comm. Reeves wished to know the proposed rent structure. He was
told it would be 22 cents per square foot. This is in keeping with
surrounding apartments.
Motion was made by Comm. Coll is, seconded by Comm. Reeves, to grant
the request of Lloyd & Betty Leonard for a change of zone boundaries
and classification. Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Collis, Armer, Chairman Boice
None
Motion was made by Comm, Coll ls, seconded by Comm. Reeves, to adopt
Resolution 154-716, recommending to the City Council that this zone
be changed from R-1, single-family residential to R-3, multiple
family residential on lots 6 & 7 of block 81, 2nd Addition to Hermosa
Beach, known as 1728 to 1826 Ardmore Avenue. Motion based on the
recommendations by the Planning Director that the property is in
keeping with the harmony of the Ge neral Plan, it will speed develop
ment of the area, and that it will be of general benefit to the City.
Motion carried as follows:
AYES: Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Collis, Armer, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Comm. Coll is stated that in his opinion, the proposed development
will be of a nature that is well within the 1 imits of the present
Zoning requirements, that the land use coverage is approximately
58 percent, that the proposed structures consisting of 1 and 2 bed
room apartments are within the recommended standards that are under
review by this Commission, and assured that development would be in
accordance with General Plan,
Comm. Armer stated that the tentative proposal presented with archi
tectural rendering is aesthetical!y in keeping with General Plan.
Planning Commission Minutes Pag e 8 May 5, 1969
v-69-9
APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE BY JUCKES CONSTRUCTION COMPANY from pr o
visions of Sections 500 (2) and 503 (I) of City Zoning Ordinance
N.S. 154, as amended, as applied to lots 19, 20 , 21, 22 , & 23 of
tract 103I, known as 2435, 2439, 2443, 2447, and 2451 Myrtle Avenue,
Hermosa Beach, in order t o construct two (2) single -family dwellings
on an R-2 lot having a 5-foot si de yard on one side and zero (0) s ide
ya r d on the other, In stead of the duplex with 3-foot side yards re
quired by Ordinance.
The Planning Director stated that the on l y communication received
was in the form of two anonymous cards. Chairman Boice stated that
it s hould be the policy of the Commission to disregard any anonymous
correspondence.
The Planning Director explained the request was to construct t\•JO
single-family dwellings on ea ch of five adjoining lots; and to
eliminate side ya rd s on one side of each of four of the lots in order
to de velop a townhouse atmosphere. He continued that the properties
in question ar e vacant, steeply-sloping lots and are zoned R-2. The
Zoning Ordinance a 11 ows a 11 s i ngl e t wo-family dwe 11 i ng 11 on R-2 I ots,
This restriction was established prior to the adoption of lot split
regulat i ons, as an attempt to preven t illegal division of lo ts . Since
the adoption of the lot split, and more recen tly, subdivision ordin
ances , the necess i ty of th i s restr i c tion is substantially reduced . The
side yard requirement i s primari l y to provide light and air. The
applicant proposes to b utt two adjo ining buildings at the property
li ne on one s i de, and increase the s ideyard on the other side to f ive
feet, giving 10 feet between build ings. The visual effect would be
of a duplex on a 60-foot wide lot, rather than the permitted duplex
on a 30-foot wide lot. These variances will, according to the ap
plicant, make possible the provision of I ight and air between the
unit s on each lot. A 17 1 x 30 1 (510 square foot) patio is shown
on each I ot.
Public hearing opened at 9:50 p.m.
Alan Juckes, 32 Pony Lane, Rolling Hills, appea red to speak for his
reque s t. He stated that the 11 townhouse11 concep t is what he is
proposing.
Comm. Armer wished to know how much square footage i n each dwe ll ing .
He was told there would be 1600 square feet in the 3 bedroom, family
room, 2 bath houses on Ozone and 1200 square feet In th e 2 bedroom,
l½ bath houses on Myrtle.
George Becker, 2432 Myrtle Avenue, Hermosa Beach, wished to kn01¥ how
much space there would be between buildings on Ozone and building on
Myrtle, Comm. Boice stated there would be 17 feet.
Comm. Noble stated that the requirements for se tba c ks are 3 feet to
5 feet, and the applicant wishes to have a JO foot patio between
buildings.
The Planning Director st ated that it is worth giving up one or two
feet to combine side yards as a patio.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 9 May 5, 1969
Mrs. Dorothy Becker, 2432 Myrtle Avenue, Hermosa Beach, wished to
know how the units would be sold. Comm. Collis explained to her
that the buyer would purchase one unit on Ozone and one unit on
Myrtle.
Public hearing closed at 10:00 p.m.
Comm. Collis stated that he saw this request as very good and accept
able planning. This is better than having S 1 ittle cracker box
duplexes that could be built, By increasing the parking 25 percent,
it will keep the cars off the streets. This development will create
a pride of ownership that the City is trying to obtain. We are now
looking for net usable area.
Chairman Boice asked the Building Director if he foresaw any problems
with the proposed development. Mr. Trott stated that he foresaw no
problems. One building could be removed without removing the other.
He stated that the sound proofing was better than it would be with a
3-foot setback if the windows were open.
Comm. Coll is asked the applicant if all buildings would have a separate
foundation and he was told they would. Only the facades would be
connected.
Mr. Trott stated that the Building Code requires a I-inch space between
buildings in case of earthquakes. Mr. Trott also recormiended a low
wall on Ozone instead of a curb and gutter because of the narrow alley.
The Planning Director stated that in order for the Commission to grant
this type of request they would first have to adopt the following
·Resolution P.C. 154-717~
WHEREAS, it is desirable to encourage variety and flexibility in the
development of residential property in the City of Hermosa Beach, the
following yard reduction may be allowed where two or more adjoining
lots are being developed concurrently:
The required side yard on one side may be reduced to zero, pro
vided the remaining side yard is at least 5 feet in width.
Houses may be visually joined to present an appearance of one
building across the lot line, abutting zero side yard, but shall
in fact, be separate structurally.
Plans and elevations shall be subject to review by the Planning
Commission.
Motion to adopt the foregoing Resolution P.C. 154-717 was made by
Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Coll is. Motion passed as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Coll is, Armer, Chairman Boice
None
Planning Commission Minutes Page 10 May 5, 1969
Motion made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Noble, to grant the
request of Alan Juckes for a variance in order to erect 2 single
family dwellings instead of a duplex on one lot. Motion carried
as fol lows:
AYES: Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Coll is, Armer, Chairman Boice.
NOES: None
Motion was made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Stabler, to adopt
Resolution P,C. 154-718, granting the request of Juckes Construction
Company for a variance from provisions of Sections 500 (2) and 503
(I) of City Zoning Ordinance N,S. 154, as applied to lots 19, 20, 21,
22, & 23 of tract 1031, known as 2435, 2439, 2447 & 2451 Myrtle
Avenue, Resolution to be subject to the following conditions:
1. Resolution P.C. 154-717 is granted.
2 . Construction to be as shown on the corrected plot plan sub
mitted to the Planning Department.
3. Concrete curb or I ow (6" to 1211 ) wa 11 or fencing be con
structed on alley between driveways,
4. Enclosed trash areas approved by Public Works be required.
S. Patios should be retained as shown for mutual use of two
units, and pedestrian access from rear unit to Myrtle
should not be obstructed.
6. The patio area shall be at least 14-feet wide at its small
est dimension.
Motion passed as follows:
AVES: Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Coll is, Armer, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Justification for this request is as follows:
1. There are five adjoining lots to be developed as a unit.
2, The steep slope makes development of a single duplex per
lot difficult without losing normal amenities,
3. The property rights enjoyed by others in this vicinity and
zone would have to be that a number of R-2 lots are developed
with detached units, although not recently. No one has the
right to eliminate side yards. The Planning Commission is
empowered, in Section 1205, to establish formula for practical
modification of required yards in all residential zones.
4 . The granting of the variance will not be materially detrimental
to the public welfare or property in this zone and vicinity,
because the building bulk will be no greater than normally
permitted, views from above will not be excessively restricted,
off-street ·parking provided wil I be more than required for a
dup1 ex.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 11 May 5, 1969
5 . The proposed use and density are within the parameters of
the General Plan recommendations.
v-69-10
APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE BY WESTERN FRANCHISE, INC., AGENT FOR
VERNON MAYNARD, from provisions of Section 808-C of City Zoning
Ordinance N.S. 154, as amended, as applied to lots 102 through 108
and 60 and 61 of tract 5650, known as 818 Real (l000 Pacific Coast
Highway) Hermosa Beach, in order to erect a sign having more than
the three colors allowed by Ordinance.
The Planning Director explained that the request would be to have
a multi-color sign (portrait) for a restaurant at 1000 Pacific Coast
Highway (Minnie Pearl).
The request, as submitted, would be a special privilege. As in the
case of the Sea Sprite request, and the City's sign revision, to be
consistent, the Planning Commission would have to deny the request,
A larger question is involved: The sign ordinance's blanket prohibi
tion of signs of more than three colors was made in order to prevent
11 psychedal ic11 or flamboyant signs which would be detrimental to the
entire business community. A better technique would seem to be to
require a conditional use permit or even a review by the Planning
Commission of all signs of more than three colors of less than three
colors if colors are flourescent. The Commission could have the
authority thereby to reject signs which are out of character with the
business community in which they are to be located.
Comm. Boice stated that he felt the intent of the sign ordinance was
to prevent bl inking, flashing, rotating, or psychedal ic signs.
Comm. Coll is stated that the Commission should develop some consistent
course of action in determining which signs they could approve.
Public hearing opened at 10:50 p.m.
R.E. Poe, QRS Sign Company, Los Angeles, appeared to speak for the
request. He stated that M_innie Pearl is not psychedal ic in any way.
He stated that they have installed this sign all over Southern Califor
nia. To his knowledge, only Beverly Hills had a Commission to review
signs. The only problem they had run into so far with their sign had
been in its size, He stated that this is a chain restaurant and the
sign was its symbol.
No one appeared to protest the application. Public hearing closed
at 10: 53 p.m.
Comm. Stabler stated that he viewed the sign ordinance as an attempt
to create some aesthetic value. He objects to such signs as Jack-in
the-Box. Kentucky Chicken, and Minnie Pearl.
Comm. Armer stated that he agreed with Comm, Stabler that this por
trait portion of the sign is not needed.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 12 May 5, 1969
Comm, Boice stated that this is a company that uses this identify
ing sign all over the country. Why should this community be the
only one to refuse it its standard symbols?
Comm. Noble and the Building Director both agreed that when the sign
ordinance was first adopted it was decided that the 3-color require
ment would not hamper signs which were otherwise acceptable to the
Commission. The 3-color restriction is only to stop psychedalic
signs.
Mr. Trott stated he felt the sign ordinance
Ordinance should be amended to state that a
a variance is needed in a case such as this
allowed to have a sign of 1500 square feet.
a 400 square foot sign.
should be changed. The
normal review instead of
one. The applicant is
He proposes to have only
Comm. Reeves stated that this decision may be used for future requests.
He stated that the Commission should take into consideration that
Minnie Pearl is an attractive establishment, is nation-wide, does
good business, and would be an asset to the community. One percent
of the sales tax would go to the City and this is far better than
having a vacant lot on this corner, Also he would rather see Minnie
Pearl 1 s Restaurant than a used car and truck rental lot.
Motion was made by Comm. Coll is, seconded by Comm. Armer, to approve
the request for a variance by Western Franchise. Motion carried as
fol I ows:
AVES:
NOES:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Coll is, Chairman Boice
Comm. Armer
Motion was made by Comm. Coll is, seconded by Comm. Reeves, to adopt
Resolution P.C. 154-719, granting the request of Western Franchise
for a variance from provisions of Section 8o8-C of City Zoning Ordin
ance N.S. 154, as applied to lots 102 through 108 and 60 and 61 of
tract 5650, known as 818 Real (1000 Pacific Coast Highway). It was
decided by the Commission, after listening to testimony, that the sign
was a national symbol for Minnie Pearl 1 s Restaurants and is needed
for the identification of the business. Also the sign only totals
400 square feet instead of the allowed 1500 square feet,
Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
V-69-I l
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Coll is, Chairman Boice
Comm. Armer
APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE BY JOHN & JANET HASEMEIER from provisions
of Section 602 of the City Zoning Ordinance N,S. 154, as amended, as
applied to lot 3, block 31, 1st Addition to Hermosa Beach tract, known
as 2124 Hermosa Avenue, in order to construct apartment house with
second and third stories projecting five (5) feet into the required
ten (10) foot front yard, ground floor to comply with the ten (10)
foot setback required by Ordinance in this block.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 13 May 5, 1969
The Planning Director explained to the Commission that this request
was to encroach in to required front yard with second and third stories
of an apartment building.
The applicant proposes to construct a new apartment building on the
site. The ground level will be garages. A ten-foot setback will be
provided for the garage. An ang ular encroachment is proposed from
2 1 911 to 5 1 into the fro nt yard area with the second and third stories.
Th e adjoining building has a setback of 5 feet. The corner apartment
has a lesser setback. The front yard requirement on the block north
of the property in question is 8 feet ; the block south is O feet; the
facing b lock is O feet. The appl i can t proposes automat ic door openers
on the garages . The property i s stee ply sloping, requiring consider
able terracing of the structure. The dens ity of development is one
unit per 666 square feet. The apartme nt building adjacent to south
ha s 6 units on the same s ize lot (with 5-foot setback).
Public hearing opened at 11:14 p.m.
John Hasemeier, 1316 Manha ttan Avenue, Manhattan Beach, appeared to
speak in favor of his request. He stated that he would be removing
the older building and replacing it with 6 new units and 9 garages.
Ray Scoval, 2130 Hermosa Avenue, Hermosa Beach, sta ted that he was
in favor of this variance because it would enable the appl i can t 1 s
units to conform to the next door units.
No one appeared to speak in opposition to the request. Public hearing
closed at 11:18 p.m.
Comm. Reeves wished to know what the s quare footage o f the units wou ld
be . He was told that the 2-bedroom apartments would be 850 square
feet to 1000+ square feet.
The Building Director stated that the property had been written up
for corrections by the Building Department and that he felt the ap
plicant as we ll as the City would be better off if the old building
was torn do..tn and these 6 new units constructed,
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Coll is, to grant the
request of John and Janet Hasemeier for a vari an ce, Comm. Noble
stated that he did not believe this request would be detrimental to
the neighborhood. Motion passed as follows:
AYES:
NOE S:
Comm. Ree ves, Noble, Stabler, Collis, Armer, Chairman Boice
None
Motion made by Comm. Noble, se conded by Co1m1. Armer, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 1S4-720, granting the req uest of John & Janet Hasemeier for a
variance from provisions of Section 602 of the City Zoning Ordinance
N,S . 154, as ap plied to lot 3, block 31, 1st Addition to Hermosa Beach
tract, known as 2124 Hermosa Avenue. It was found by t he Commission
that the request met the requirements for granting of a variance, that
the granting of the request would not be detrimental to surrounding
neighborhood, and would be in conformity with other existing st ruc tures
on adjacent lots.
Planning Commission Minutes Page 14 Hay 5, 1969
Motion carried as follows:
AVES:
NOES:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Coll is, Armer, Chairman Boice
None
REVIEW OF PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY TONY
REGAN as provided under Building Ordinance N.S. 352.
The Building Director explained to the Commission that this request
was being brought before them because the proposed building was of
an unusual shape and design for this area -it is a modified A-frame
building (chalet).
Frank Segram, Haida Hide
represent the applicant.
room, 2 bath. He stated
from ground level to top
Corp., appeared before the Commission to
He stated that this home would be 3 bed-
it would consist of 1100 square feet, and
of building would be approximately 25 feet,
Comm. Boice stated that he could see nothing detrimental about the
structure; and Comm. Noble stated that he had seen this type of
structure before and, 1 iked it very much,
Hr. Segram showed the Commission pictures of the structure and stated
it would look identical to the pictures, except it would also have
a two-car garage.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm, Armer, to approve the
review of the structure. Motion carried as fpllows:
AVES:
NOES:
PASS:
Comm. Noble, Stabler, Collis, Armer, Chairman Boice
None
Comm, Reeves
Comm. Reeves stated that he felt he had not had time for sufficient
study of the structure.
REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF VARIANCE GRANTED TO ROBERT BOICE on June 3, 1968.
Comm. Boice, the applicant, stated that he would like to have an ex
tension on his variance to add onto his house. He stated he must tear
down the unit and garage within 5 years, but would like another year
to make his addition to the house.
Motion made by Comm. Reeves, seconded by Comm. Noble, to extend the
variance to Robert Boice until May 5, 1970. Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
Comm. Reeves, Noble, Stabler, Collis, Armer
None
Comm. Boice
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A PRECISE PLAN FOR THE WIDEN
ING OF SECOND STREET between Pacific Coast Highway and the A.T. & S.F.
Railroad right of way from its existing 40-foot width to a 50-foot width;
Planning Commission Minutes Page 15 May 5; 1969
and to reduce the required front yard from 10 feet to 5 feet on said
widened street (P.C. 154-701).
Public hearing opened at 11:30 p.m., and closed again as no one in the
audience wished to speak for or against the request.
Motion made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm, Noble, to continue this
hearing until the meeting of May 19, 1969. Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION P.C. 154-713, repealing Section
1305 of City Zoning Ordinance, as amended, regarding abatement periods
for non-conforming uses.
Public hearing opened at 11:35 p.m., and closed again as no one wished
to speak for or against the request.
Motion made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Noble to continue this
hearing until the May 19th meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Noble, to adjourn the
regular meeting of May 5, 1969 to Hay 19, 1969. Motion carried
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:40 p.m.
JOE B. NOBLE, SECRETARY