HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1967_12_11MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETLNG OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION held at the City of
Hermosa Beach, California, in th e Council Chambers, at 7:30 p.m ., on Mond a y,
December ll, 1967 .
RO LL CALL -Pr es ent: Corrm. Reeves, Armer, Stabler, Noble, Hamilton, Bo ic e ,
Chairman Viault; Bud M. Tr ott , Bu ilding & Planning
Director
Comm. Noble was sea ted a fter approval of minu t e s.
MoeioHAw~~ made by Chairman V_iaul t , seco nd ed by Comm. Ar me r, th at the minutes
of November 13, 1967 be approved . Mot ion ca rried unanimously .
LEE~ HARRY -ZONE VARIAN CE
Publi c hearing of z o ne varia nc e a ppli cati on by Harry Lee, t o add on to ex istin g
singl e family residence ov e r 40% of exsi t ing flo or area. Res iden ce with non
conforming s ideyard of .98 in lieu of requi red 5 ft. Situat e d at 1225 20th S t .,
lots 133 an d 134, Walter Ransom Co 1 s Re dondo Home tract.
Photos and survey ma ps of the proper t y were sh own to t he Commission. Mr . Trott,
Bui lding & Pl anning Director , expl ain ed t hat an err or in the o rigin a l su r vey
ha d be e n corrected, a nd tha t the sideyard set back was ac tually 3.98 feet,
ra~her t han .98 feet. This error was caught by the Building De partment in t ime
for a corrected s urv ey to be presen t ed to th e Commission.
Mr. Lee was present to speak and s tated that he wi s hed to improve his proper ty,
an d felt he would be upgrading the c ommunity, and would not be interfering wi t h
surroundin g hou ses. There were questions asked about th e ga r a ge f acil iti es on
the site, and Comm. Boi ce remakked that the applicant would be bui ]din g a two
car ga ~ge in pl ace of the sin g le ga rage now ex isting.
Mr. Fred Crow, ne ig hbor of Mr. Lee, sp o ke in f avo r of the app lic atio n and said that
all of th e neigh bors felt t he r eq ues ted addition would be an ass et to the
community. No one spoke in opposition .
Motion was made by Comm . Noble, seconded by Comm. Hamil ton, to grant the variance,
and t he moti on carri e d un animously .
Mot ion was mad e by Comm. Hami lton , seconde d by Comm . Noble, t o adopt P.C. 154-633 ,
granting t he zone vari a nce for the r easons t hat i t will not be detri men tal to
surro unding pr ope rti es; it does not give t he applicant any sp ecial a:l van tage not
enjoyed by oth ers in the immedi ate vicini ty; it will u pg rade the gen era l ar ea;
there wi ll be no i nterruption o f light or venti l ation for this or sur rounding
p roperties, bec a use of t he addi t ion; and t wo garag es will be provided in s t ead
of the ori g inal one gar age . The motion carried byUJani mous vote.
Chai rman Viau lt s ug gest ed that because c onsid e rabl e time mig ht be dev oted to
the p ropos e d Sig n Ordi na nce , tha t t he eommission mi ght wish to hear item
6 on the ag en da, recons i der ation of con ditio nal use permit f or Way ne Teza k.
The Commi s sion on motion by Comm. Ree ves , second ed by Comm . Nobl e, to proceed
to i tem 6, voted unanimou sly to do so.
Pla nn i ng Commission Page 2 December ll, 1967
TEZAK. WAYNE -COND ITIONAL USE PERMIT
Recons idera tion of conditional use permi t application by Wayne Tezak to serve
beer and wine in a bona fide r es taurant at 1401 Hermosa Ave nue, g ranted by
Planning Commission Reso l ut ion P .C. 154-632, with certain prov1s1ons. Decision
appeal e d by the City Council a t their meet i ng of De c ember 5, 1967, and return e d
to the Planning C0mmission for further study.
Mr. Leo nard Waterman, attorney for Mr. Tezak, spoke for the applican t . He
presented data whi ch disclosed that cities surrounding Her mo sa Beach have a
mu ch higher ratio of on sale beer and wine and hard liquor licens es than
Hermosa Beach does when considering population figures. Her mo sa Beach has
13 suc h licenses. There are five (5) on sal e beer only; three (3) on sale
beer and wine eating places; five (5) general on sale licens es . Manhattan
Beach has 31 such li ce ns es , and Redondo Beach has 66. Mr. Waterman also
discussed the i n t egrity of hi s client, whi ch he felt had been satisfac tori ly
proven by A.B.C.
Mr. Boultt, of the Chamber of Commerce , read a letter whi ch had been forwarded
to eac h member of the Board of Di rec to rs fo r the Cham ber, and which requ es ted
a vote in r ega rd to the granting of this condi t ional use permi t. There were
six t ee n (16) in fa vor of gr an tin g, one (l) ag ain st, one (1) no comment.
Mr. Lowis Fi e ld, Chamber Manager, also spoke in behalf of the applic a tion.
After qu e stions were asked by the Commiss ion , Mr. Bud Trott, Building & Planni ng
Director, explained t hat the co ndi tional us e permit wen t wi th th e property, but
tha t i n the eve nt the propert y was sold, the sa me provision s stated in t he
resolution, would s ti 11 app l y t o any new owners.
Motion was made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Hamilton, to rea ffirm the
prior acti o n of the Planning Commission, Resolution P.C. 154-632, and motion
ca rrie d as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
ABSENT:
Co11111. Arme r, Nobl e , St a bler , Hami !ton , Boi c e, Chairman Vi ault
None
Comm . Reeves
None
Comm. Noble stated t hat his r e ason for voting 11 Ay e11 on the original mo t ion
to g ra n t, as well as the present one, was that he felt i t is the responsibility
of the Pl anning Comm issi on to control th e d.ispensing of liquor within the City,
but felt t hat i n this in stance liqu or was being served as a supplement to the
s erving o f food in a bona fide restaurant, and the integrity of th e applican t
had bee n satisfactorily e st ablished to insure t hat t he establishment wo u ld not
be turned into a 11 be e r bar".
Motion was ma de by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Boice, to ad opt P.C.
Re so lu t ion 154-634 tha t a fte r reconsideration of the application was requ es ted
by the City Cou nc il, the Plannin g Commissi on did review th e ma tte r again and i t
is their recommendation that said applicant's request for c ondi t ional use permit
be granted as originally sta te d, f or th e reasons that the Planning Commiss ion is
Planning Commi ssi on Pag e 3 December 11, 1967
TEZAK CONT:
again satisfied, afte r re viewing the fact s, that th e ser ving of b e e r and wine is
.inc ide ntal and suppleme ntary to the serving of food on the p remi ses; and the
applicant app ea rs well qualified; a nd tha t it will i n no way be detrimental to the
su rroun ding nei ghborhood; a nd that the facts pr sen t ed by the applica nt, showing
th e greater ra tio of beer a nd wine facil iti es in the ne igh boring ci t ies of the
Southb ay, indicate tha t the gra nting of th is ap pli c ation would s t i 11 l eave
Hermosa Beach with a smaller ratio of beer and wi ne facilities th a n adjacent
c iti es. Moti on carrie d by t he followi ng vote:
AYES :
NOES:
PASS:
ABS ENT:
Comm . Armer, Noble, Stabler, Ha mi lt on, Boice , Chair man Viault
No ne
Comm. Reev es
None
PROPOSED AMENDMENT ZONING ORDINANCE N.S. 154 -SIGNS
Mr. Da n Revill, of the Ban k of Ame ric a, was presen t to giv e th e Commission
s ome data with regard to this public heari ng of proposed si g n ordi na nce .
Through the bank facilities, Mr. Re v ill had secured s ome infor mation about
s e ver al o t her c i t ies and the drop in sales vo lume whic h occurred when signs
wer e restricted in the se communities,
Also presen t to spe ak wa s Mr. J oseph A. Strans ky, re p r e se ntin g Weste rn Oil and
Gas As soci ati on . He su ggest e d that sign own ers be all owe d to use eigh t straight
lin es to co mpu te sign area. He als o q ues t io ned the exact definition c:,f 11 canopy11
an d whether, when these are not readily re moveable, th e y were s t i 11 considered
canop ies. Mr. St ans ky also wish e d to possiblf have a d efinit ion of dou b l e
f aced signs which woul d inc lude t he t hic kness allowed , such as no more than
2~1 • Mr . Sta nsky said tha t the Un ion Oi I Signs ar e ab out 2~h t hic k. With
regar d to p r ojec ting s i gns, he expr e ssed the thought tha t aga in the dime nsion
of 1811 migh t be used. In conc l us ion, he fel t tha t de fini tions c ou ld be mo re
specific ally defin e d.
Mr. Jerry Sigg e ns of 5 13 Pi er Avenue, ow ne r of a bea u ty salon, spoke and stat ed
that the removal of hi s sign, if thi s be r e quired under t he propos e d sig n or dina nce,
wo uld caus e hi m loss o f busine s s, a nd that he f elt the small bu sines sman need e d
a sign for adverti s ing pu rpose s since other methods of adv e rtising wer e t oo
expen sive .
James Compton, of 1202 Hermosa Avenue, sai d t hat as a loc al b usi nessman he wou ld
l i ke to go on re cord that he was oppo s ed to any gr e at chan ge whi c h wo uld further
res trict the bu sine ss men in t he commun i ty .
Mr . Boul tt and Mr. Field of the Chamber of Comme rce, once ag ain state d t hat
the Ch ambe r fel t the recommendation s which they ha d pre sented to th e Commission
we re a reflection of the busin e ssman 'inwtk be s ~~~u b~t J'~rd ~~;~ftd ,t~~~ t h~t th e
Chamber wo u l d still like to see thes e recommendations incorporat e d in th e prop o s ed
si gn ordi nan ce .
Planning Commission Page 4 December 11, 1967
PROPOSED SIGN ORDINANCE CON~:
The Commission discussed non-conforming signs and removal of such signs,
and how depreciation and replacement values of such signs might be calculated.
Mr. Dave Nash, local sign company owner, advised that the [nternal Revenue
Service uses a figure of ten years for large electric signs. There was further
discussion, and mention of banner signs, which might have a sixty or ninety
day time limit placed upon them, and at that time they must be removedi.
The Commission expressed its feeling at this point in the meeting, that they
were attempting to upgrade the business community, that they were not trying
to hinder the businessman, and that they respected the businessman 1 s opinions
and wished to hear more of these opinions before final conclusions and action
on the proposed sigh ordinance..eee taken. Mr. Boultt, president of the Chamber
of Commerce, suggested the Commission turn the ordinance back to the Chamber for study.
Motion was made by Comm. Reeves and seconded by Comm. Boice to re-open and continue
the public hearing unti 1 the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Commission,
in order to give the Chamber of Commerce time to re-evaluate the additional
facts ~hich~they had heard this evening and to present further recommendations
to the Planning Commission. Motion carried as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
PASS:
ABSENT:
Comm. Reeves, Armer, Noble, Stabler, Hamilton, Boice,
None
Chairman Viault (conflict of interest)
None
There was further discussion about the time required for this study, and motion
was made by Comm. Boice, seconded by Comm. Reeves, that the public hearing be
continued to the meeting date of the Planning Commission on February 13th, 1968.
Motion carried unanimously.
The Commission proceeded to item 5 on the agenda,
CONTINUED STUDY OF SERVICE STATION STANDARDS
Mr. Stransky again spoke to the Commission, and said that he wished to state
that in general the Oi 1 and Gas Association is in f~vor of the proposed sign ord
inance. He then pursued the matter of service station standards. Landscaping,
his organization was in favor of and in most cases the oil companies would supply
more than might even be required by the Commission.
Mr. Stansky questioned the definition of building design, which states contemporary
or ranch style, and felt this too limiting. He suggested that the proposed
distance of pump isles from property line be increased from 12 feet to 15 feet.
He said that there would be no objection to putting up a masonary wall where the
station was contiguous to residential zoned property, but if there is a shopping
district or restaurant sharing the driveway etc., they would not wish such a wall.
Mr. Stansky fel~ the only things to be displayed outside service stations
should be dir,e'.ctly related to automobiles. He suggested rephrasing the
wording re 11 general repair work (major or minor) not be done on the premtses.11
He explained to the Commission how the oil companies handle abandoned stations
at the present time, and told them that such facilities are removed and
Planning Commi ss ion Page 5 December 11, 1967
SERVICE STATIONS CONT.:
the tanks fill e d with inert mate r i a l. This is an advantage to the cities.
Th e Chairman thanked Mr. Stan sky for his appearance at the mee t ing, and for
his comments. The Commission wished to s t udy the ma tt er further, and
also to rev iew the subj ec t of con ti guous lots again. Chairman Viault
requested that these items be placed on the agenda for th e next regu lar
m~eting of the Planning Commission on January 8, 196,.
ADJOURNMENT -11 p.m . ~),......z'Si',,~-f!ia-,~
Rbert Viault, Chair"iiian