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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_1982-03-02r \ MINUTES OF THE PIANNING COMMISSION OF HffiMOSA BFACH HELD ON MARCH 2, 1982, IN TIIE CilY HAIL COONCIL CI-!..I\MBERS AT 7: 30 P .M. Meetmg called to order by Conro. Peirce at 7:30 P.M. ROIL CALL ERESENT: Corrms . Cumnings , Donnelly, Loosli, Peirce, Rue , Smith ABSENT: Crum. Izant AI.SO PRESENT: Parrela Sapetto, Plarming Director Corrrn. Peirce annomced that he will be acting as Chairman for the next three rreetings in the absence of Chrrn. Izant. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Cbnn. Peirce referred to Page 8, 10th para., and asked what happens to the moneys when it has not been spent. }'Is. Sapetto replied that the allocated frnds will be carried over until the City implerrents the program. Motion by Coran. 1.Dosli, seconded by Cornn. Rue, to approve the February 16, ( 1982, minutes . No objections , so ordered. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS Cbrrn. Peirce stated that the Planning Corrmission had requested staff to roodify P.C. Resolution 82-7 and 82-8. Corrm. Currmings noted an error in P.C. 82-7, 7th WHEREAS should read, " . . . evening parking lane traf fie. . " Comn. Rue noted an error in spelling in the 9th 1il.1HEREAS. It should read, ". . . east of the tracks. . . " l:fotion by Comn. Il:ue, seconded by Corrm. Donnelly, to approve Resolutions P.C. 82-7 and 82-8. AYES: NOES: ABSENT: COI1IT1S. Curnnings, Donnelly, Loosli, Rue, Smith, Crnm. Peirce None Crum. Izant CONTINUED PUBLIC HF.A.._tUNG -Programs irnplem:mting C..QI\IS & OBJECTIVES OF THE MOLTI -USE CORRIDOR Chrrn.. Peirce questioned Page 2, 1/6 of the Multi-Use Corridor. He suggested adding, " ... more profitable in the multi-use corridor than residential in appropriate zone." He clarified his addition by stat ing that the City does not want to discourage re sidential if it is zoned r esidential. PIANNING CCM1ISSION MINUIES -:rf.:arch 2, 1982 Page 2 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING -Programs inplerrenting ~ & OBJECTIVES OF THE MULTI-USE CCRRIDffi (Cont .) Ms. Sapetto gave staff report. She stated that staff recomrends that the Cormrl.ssion review the goals and objectives as arrended at their February 16, 1982, ~eting, and choose the appropriate implerrentation progra'IlS as listed in the staff analysis and to invite t..~e Chamber of Conrnerce to participate in a joint v:orkshop to discuss the Commis sion's outline. She stated that the first step in the inpleirentation of the study will be a recorrmendation to tr..e City CoLmci l as to whether or not to retain the temporary devel oprrent standards as pennanent in that they mitigate the abutting residential/conrnercial uses. This public hearing will be held on March 16, 1982. The Corrmission' s recorn:rendati on will then go before the Council on March 23, 1982. She reconm2nded to the Comnission to request a formal joint workshop between themselves and IIEnbers of the Chamber of Conrrerce to discuss the outline. Cornn. Smith asked if the Planning Corrmission were to meet with the Chamber of Comrerce because the businessnen on the hig..1-iway are the ones rrost affected by the multi-use corridor. :t-'",s. Sapetto replied that the only body that encorrpasses the rrerchants in the City is the Chamber of Comnerce. Corrm. Smith stated that the February 16, 1982, minutes reflected that the Planning Corrmi.ssion chose not to becore involved with the downtown area. He stated that, if the Planning Corrmissian is going to discuss the highway, he would rather work with the businesses in the area rather than the Chamber of Comrerce. Ms. Sapetto stated that sOIIE. persons from the Chamber of Cormerce do have businesses on the highway. Cornn. Donnelly stated that he would like to see public notices going to every business on the highi;,m.y. He recomrended staff sending a letter to each business on the highway and having the Chamber of Comrerce send notices to those businesses. Crum. Peirce so ordered Conm. Donnelly 1 s recorrmendation. Corrm. Rue stated that all persons along the highway are involved in this issue; therefore, all persons should be notified, i.e. residents, property owners, etc. However, he did not feel that all persons, such as tenants in an apartrrent building, should be notified. Cornn. Smith suggested noticing all persons so that the City may receive rrore input. Corrrn. Loosli stated that there will be no input from residents until a zone change is proposed. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 3 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING -Programs implementing GOALS & OBJECTIVES OF THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR (Cont .) Ms. Sapetto stated that the City should start by hearing those persons in the commercial zones to receive more input. Following that, the residents may give input on the Multi-Use Corridor. She felt that the most desirable way to receive resident input is to go to the neighborhood or to hold a block meeting. Chmn. Peirce recommended dealing with the business community at this time, and if sufficient interest is shown by the residents, a meeting will be arranged to include them. Corrnn. Donnelly agreed; however, he offered the suggestion of holding a meeting for the residents in the Councils Chambers, as opposed to the resident's neighborhoods. Comm. Cummings felt that not enough data was provided. He wanted more information on sales tax and business licenses. Chmn. Peirce referred to the Multi-Use Corridor document and stated that on Page 2, 4f6, 11 in the commercial zone 11 should be added. He explained that the purpose of this item is to keep commercial in the commercial zone and residential in the residential zone. Comm. Donnelly suggested deleting #6 in its entirety. Comm. Donnelly then suggested the verbage, 11 ••• to enhance commercial development in commercial zones.11 Chmn. Peirce accepted the above suggestion. Comm. Loosli asked for the location of the Thompson and Priamos properties. Ms. Sapetto replied that the Thompson property is bordered on the east by the highway, on the south. by Pier Avenue, on the west by Ardmore, and on the north by 15th Street. This property is currently zoned manufacturing. The Priamos property is across 16th Street and goes to 17th Street. Public Hearing opened at 8:03 P.M. Delma Peery, 720 8th Street, Hermosa Beach, connnended the Commission for holding a workshop with the Chamber of Commerce. She stated that many residents in the area do not know what the multi-use corridor is. She believed that education was very important. Violette Isgreen, 726 Prospect Avenue, Hermosa Beach, stated that Hermosa Beach is the only City that has business built out to the sidewalk. She was concerned that a public state-owned easement is being violated. She also believed a geologist should survey the area up the hill to determine if it would be dangerous to build a more intense commercial use. Pat Riley, 24th Place, Hermosa Beach, asked what plans the Commission has PLANNING COMMISSION :MINUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 4 CONTINUED PUBLIC HFARL~G -Progr-ams implerrenting OOU.S & OBJECTIVES OF TI-IE MULTI-USE CORRIDCR (Cont.) for 24th Street and 24th Place. Crnm. Peirce stated that t..li.e depth of 24th Place is about 90 feet on the north side of the street and 115 feet on the south side. He stated that the subcorrmittee did not discuss any additional depth on the west side of the highway. Corrm. Loosli added that all persons who would be affected by a zone change would receive written notificatdi.on. Public Hearing closed at 8:26 P.M. Cornn. Currmings requested a zone map ·which has the outline of the plausible IID.llti-use corridor that could be tUilled into a corrmercial corridor. He believed that the subconmittee had elirrdnated much of the rrrulti-use corridor. Chnn. Peirce stated that the subcorrmittee had discussed the conmercial corridor which was one lot depth in the north part of t0vm. Cornn. Cunnings believed that the subcorrmi.ttee carre up with a way to shrink the rm.rlti-use corridor as it is currently outlined. Ms. Sapetto stated that the subcorrmittee has corre up with that, and it is color coded for easy intei:pretation. She stated that she would bring it to the joint 'W'Orlcshop. Chrm. Peirce asked that Ms. Sapetto deliver that information to the Comnissioners three days before the workshop. He asked ~'Is. Sapetto to put heavy lines arorn.d the proposed corme.rcial corridor. Conm. Loosli asked if the naned focal points in the report will be allowed an increased height m the Zoning Code. Conm. Cu:rmings stated that it deals with making comnercial uses more viable. Ms. Sapetto stated that the suggestion was not to look at the height regulations with respect to the whole corridor , but to look at the focal points that would best be able to absorb c orrmercial depth, no view blockage to the ocean, and no irrpact to adjacent neig..11borhoods. It was suggested as an idea that would merit examining. Conm. Smith hoped that the subcorrrni.ttee was not IIHking conclusions that increased height will necessarily attract rrore business. Chnn. Peirce stated that no conclusions have been reached; they are Irerely ideas. Conm. Loosli recormended that the issue of increased height be left in the report because he felt it w::>uld bring the residents down to give input on /' PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 5 CONTINUED PUBL IC HEARING -Programs implementing GOALS & OBJECTIVES OF THE MULTI-USE CORRIDOR (Cont .) t he Multi-Us e Corridor . Comm. Donnelly believed that the Commission should not acc ept truisms as being necessarily true . He felt that the Commi ssion should ke ep an open mind on items such as t andem parking, increased height , increased traff ic , etc. Ms. Sapetto offered to lab e l this i nformation as simply ideas and that no conclusi ons have been made. Chmn. Peirce asked fo r a da te to hold the next worksho p me eting. Ms . Sapetto replied that it shoul d be held in April or May. She stated that she wi l l go to the Cham ber of Commerce to obtain a date. REVIEW Extension of CUP for Tentative Map 14619, 1079 Loma Ms. Sa petto gave staff report. She s tated that the request is to extend the COP to co rresp ond with the Tentative Map. In staff 's review of the Code 1 the CUP does not automatical ly extend to correspond with the Tentative Ma p. Staff re commended extending the CUP to run with the Tentative Map, and , t hat the Commiss ion adopt a R~solution of Intention to amend t he Zoning Code . Chmn. Pei rce saw no re ason under the law not to al low the extension a t 107 9 Loma. Comm. Loosli state d that he would need to know how he voted when the project was ap prove d before he could grant an extens ion. Motion by Cbmn . Peirce , seconded by Comm. Donnelly, to extend the CUP and the Tentative Map as recommended by staff . AYES : NOES: ABSTAIN: ABSENT: Comms. Cummings, Donnelly, Rue , Smith, Crunn. Peirce None Comm . Loosli Chmn . Izant Comm. Loosl i stated t ha t he abstained from vote due to l ack of informat i on. Chmn. Peirce asked i f a Conditional Us e Permit and a Tentative Map is always approved at the same time. Ms. Sapetto replied that one cannot ap prove a Tentative Map without app rova l of the Conditional Use Permit . She s tated that it i s poss ible that the PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 6 Extension of CUP for Tentative Map 14619, 1079 Loma (Cont.) Conditional Use Permit can be approved prior to the Tentative Map. Chmn. Peirce recommended that the Commission go through the process to mod ify the City Code . No objections, so orde red. Ms. Sapetto stated that the Condit i onal Use Permi t is good for one year, and the Tentative Map is good for 24 months. The Conditional Use Permit does not expire if the Building Permit is pulled within the 12-month period, and the Tentative Map becom es the Final Map if the Final Map i s approved within the 24-month period. She agreed that the Conditi onal Use Permit approva l should be good as long as the Tentative Map approval. COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS Chinn. Peirce asked if the City Council ~oak a stand on off-short drilling. Ms . Sapetto replied that they wi l l be discussing it at the i r March 9, 1982 meeting. Comm . Cummi ngs, referring to the Environmental Review Report on the proposed hotel at Pie r and Manhattan Avenues, asked if the Review Committee felt that the repQrt is responsive to th~~ori ginal question about c ircu­ lation. Ms. Sapetto replied that the Traffic Circulation Maps were i ncluded i n the report at the second meeting of the Review Committee . Comm. Smith asked fo r the status of rezoning the railroad right-of-way, Ms. Sapetto replied that the hearing will be held at the first meet ing in Apri l. Comm. Smith asked for the status of the specific plan for the Boatyard . Ms. Sa petto replied that the Plann ing Commiss ion took no action at all at their last meeting and cannot review the spe cific plan until the Council renders a decision on the conc eptual plan. Comm. Cummings stat e d that he spoke with the appellant of the Boatyard site who wanted the City Council to blockade Second Street at Valley Drive on the east side . He accepted Plan Bas a superior site plan ; howeve r, he thought that the impact of traffic circulation would be mitigated if there were a blockade on Second Street . ( . u PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 7 COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS Chmn. Peirce stated that the Economic Element appears to be five to six years old. Ms. Sapetto replied that was tru~j however, it is the current Eeonomic Element. Comm. Cummings asked if it were originally compiled by a consultant. Ms. Sapetto replied that she did not know. PIANNING CCMl'-ITSSION MINUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 8 COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS include such things as the nunber of households in 1970 and 1980, population in 1970 and 1980, etc. He felt that he and the other Conmissioners needed a set of data to refer back to. He volunteered to make up a sheet of the key nunibers that he would like to have, and he requested staff to fill in those m.1rooers. Chnn. Peirce accepted Cami. Donnelly's proposal. Ms. Sapetto state d that the General Pl.an supplies all those numbers in an organized fashion. Those figures are based upon 1970 data, plus any additional 1975 data. She a dded that tndst of the 1980 data is not available at this tine. She stated that she wi,.11 fill in the sheet once the data becorres available. Chnn. Peirce stated that he attended a ITEeting in San Diego, and he felt it was very reneficial. He covered nine items that helped to make an effective Planning Commissioner, those being: 1. if you want to get your point across, do not give highly teclnical data to an audience that cannot receive it and visa versa; 2. there are four ways to make a decision; narrely, 1. facts 2 . experience 3. City policy; and 4. gut reaction; 3. deal with obstacles before the project is complete; 4. recognize that a change makes things worse before they get better; 5. very little we know we have experienced; 6. recognize that 1.nless things change, they stay the sane; 7. some needs are IIOre basic than others; 8. recognize that truisms can always be changed, and you will always be judged; 9. do not worry. There will always be another ~eting in b,xJ weeks. Chnn. Peirce stated that the rrost important .thing the speaker felt a Planning Corrmissianer should do is to keep a sense of hUIIDr. Conm. Donnelly stated that he also enjoyed the session in San Diego. He reconnended that all Conmissioners attend one of these sessions at least once. Chmn. Peirce suggested holding a session for all the Commissioners and the rrerooers of the Board of Zoning AdjustnEnts in other cities to discuss City matters. PLANNING CCM1ISSIOO' lITNUTES -March 2, 1982 Page 9 C0M.".IISSIONER'S ITEMS (Cont.) Ms. Sapetto noted concern for new Conmi.ssioners not having any type of orientation. She suggested having an an-going training session for Comnissioners and the public. Motion to adjourn at 9: 21 P .M. CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action taken by the Planning Comnission at their regular rrEeting of March 2, 1982. DATE