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HomeMy WebLinkAbout(HIC)_(Minutes)_(June 20, 1978)MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HERMOSA IMPROVEMENT COMMISSION, JUNE 20, 1978 HELD IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS -~ Meeting called to order at 7:45 P.M. ROLL CALL Present: Comm. Freese, Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman Absent: Comm. Schoenfeld -resigned last week) Comm. Fridrich arrived at 8:10 P.M. • Also Present: Edward King, Staff SECTION I Approval of minutes of May 9, May 23 and June 7, 1978 Mr. King stated error in agenda: approval of minutes of May 2, and May 16. (Not May 9 and May 23). Noted by Chmn. Foreman Correction in minutes of May 16, 1978 ... Meeting called to order at 7:45 P.M. Motion by Comm. Grimshaw, seconded by Comm. Hendersen to approve the minutes of May 16, 1978 with correction above. Ayes: Noes: Absent Comm. Freese, Hendersen, Grimshaw, Chmn. Foreman none Comm. Fridrich (late) Chmn. Foreman in noting inability of Comm. Grimshaw to vote on May 2 minutes due to his absence at that meeting will hold over the minutes of May 2 until Comm. Fridrich arrives. Chmn. Foreman made the following corrections on the June 7th meeting. 1 . Page 1 , approva 1 of minutes; should read, 11 It was moved that the approval of the minutes of May 2nd and May 16 be continued to the next regular meeting.11 No objections, so ordered. • 2. Page 1, Design Review Seminar -first sencence -11 It was suggested at the workshop meeting of the City Council and the Hermosa Beach Improvement Comm ... 11 3. Page 2, 575 -20th Street. Paragraph should read: 11 Mr. John Miller requested approval of plans for remodel of a single family residence. Chmn. Foreman ·a-sked if they would consider continuing the wood trim on all elevations as the CollTllission encourages carrying the theme on all elevations. Mr. Miller stated that the windows (west, east, and north) do not have scenery and that nobody would be looking at the sides except the neighbors. Comm. Freese said that the neighbors and Mr. Miller would see these elevations. Mr. Miller agreed to the stipulation". 4. Page 3, motion ... windows in the stairwell are not included in the stipulation. (last line of paragraph). 5. P.age 3, 316 Pier Avenue ... paragraph should read: 11 Mr. Moriyuki and Toshimori Susuki, applicants for Cher Ton-Ton Restaurant. The Corrmission had given prior approval to the small sign. The applicant did not bring a rendering of the sign as requested. It was agreed that the business card lettering was a good style for Cher Ton-Ton sign. Mr. Sanada stated that he will order the professional painter to use white background with red let- H.I.C. MINUTES CONTINUED JUNE 20, 1978 Page 2 tering, border would be black. Large sign is 31 x 71 • Comm. Grimshaw stated he would not approve the sign just by looking at.a card, although it is more professional than drawing. Chmn. Foreman asked if the words could be in a straight line instead of going up and down.11 5. Page 3, last paragraph -Commission deleted the .word has 6. 530 Pacific Coast Highway -paragraph should read: 11Spencer 1 s Bike (signs already up). Sign on roof is non-conforming. Applicant will have to re- move the five-foot projecting sign as it projects more than allowed by ordinance. Applicant does not own building. Comm. Freese stated that owner should be located and notified. Window signs will have to come down, they cover more than 20% of the window. Applicant states that signs on windows are used to block the afternoon sun, he does not care about the signs and will take them down. Comm. Hendersen suggested he put up cur- tains or something similar if he wishes to shielf from the sun rather than paper signs. The applicant talked about removing the exterior panel- ing to expose an additional window. As this was not part of the original application, Chmn. Foreman stated that before the applicant cuts the third window, he must come back to Commission for design approval. 7. Page 4, strike sentence . . . 11Chmn. Foreman stated that before the •. . . 11 8. 439 Pier Avenue -eighth line, strike 11Chmn. Foreman siad signs were not consistent.11 Line 19, second sentence, 11 She suggested eliminating the one sign and replacing it with a wedge sign which is more effective. After the voting results, it should state 11 The motion failed, Chmn. Foreman requested a second vote.11 9. Page 5. 1100 Pacific Coast Highway -first paragraph, last line. 11 The Improvement CoITTTiission asked (delete directed) that the Council be made aware of this fact. 10. 634 Monterey Blvd. -11 Chmn. Foreman stated building is beautiful, but the Commission has received a written complaint about the color.ing. The appli- cant was given a copy of the letter. The applicant asked if he should use enamel or flat paint. Chmn. Foreman suggested a flat paint. Sign will be plastk11 • Last sentence, 11Chmn. Foreman asked (delete told) applicant not to do any ... 11 11. Page 6, first para should read: Chmn. Foreman read an article from the South . Bay Post urging dissolution of the Improvement Commission. Chmn. Foreman asked if the Improvement Commission would sign a letter to the editor which would be sent to the Post and to the City Council. She suggested the City Council may consider a similar letter. 12. Chmn. Foreman mentioned problems of attendance. She suggested the Commis- sion should possibly vote on whether or not an absence should be excused. Comm. Hendersen motioned .... Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve the minutes of June 7, 1978, with the above corrections. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None None H.I.C MINUTES CONTINUED June 20, 1978 page 3 IMPROVEMENT COMMISSION ITEMS Chmn. Foreman explained to the audience the functions of the Improvement Commis- sion as well as the appeals systems to the City Council of decisions made by the Commission. She invited audience participation and offered agendas to tjpse who desired one. Beautification award nominees: a) b) c) d) e) f) g) 341 -33rd St. Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Grimshaw, to award a beautification award for design. So ordered by Chmn. Foreman. 1808 Valley Park, Motion by .Comm. Grimshaw, seconded by Comm. Grimshaw, to award a beautification award for design . So ordered by Chmn. Foreman. 1839 Valley Park, continued with no objections. • 1949 Valley Park, motion by Comn. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to award a beautification award for design . So. ordered by Chmn. Foreman. 1907 Valley Park, continued with no objections. 1616 Monterey, continued with no objections. 502 -28th Street, Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fri dri ch, to send a letter of commendation. So ordered by Chmn. Foreman. Chmn. Foreman requested staff to space the awards over several meetings rather than all in one meeting. The request was answered in the affirmative. Next meeting date changed to July 6, 1978, due to the holiday. Chmn. Foreman asked the Commissioners to think about turning the administrativ approval of decks to staff. This was not on the agenda; however, she mentioned it as an information item only. DESIGN REVIEW 2510 STRAND Request by John Caldwell for approval of design of a se~ond story addition. In answer to inquiries, the applicant explained the texture of the walls to be a very rough testure. All surfaces will be covered in this manner. Comm. Freese asked if the applicant was eliminating both garages. The applicant answered no, they were increasing the length of the garage to conform with the requirements. When asked about the lot size, the applicant stated the lot was approximately 30 1 x 100 1 or 120 1 • Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Grimshaw, to approve as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None None 260 -31st STREET Request by Mr. & Mrs. Malone, for approval of a facade change and decks. Applicants presented a rendering to the Commissioners. Mrs. Malone stated it had changed considerable, as this has been an on-going project. -1--• H.I.C. MINUTES CONTINUED JUNE 20, 1978 Page 4 Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich to approve as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fri_drich, Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None None 1141 19\th Street -New Single Family Dwelling Applicant, Mr. Gragg of 28403 Cove Ridge, Rancho P.V., was present. Chmn. Foreman expressed the Conmission 1s desire to see whatever facade they were using in the front to be used on all elevations, giving a better concept to the build- ing. Applicant, in agreeing with the Chairman, noted that wood trim would be included on the windows of all the elevations, providing consistency. Comm. Grimshaw asked about the tile on the roof; was it just contained in the one section? With an affirmative answer from the applicant, Comm. Grimshaw stated he felt if the tile was carried all around in a very abbreviated form it would give the building more continuity. Applicant was in agreement and felt the suggestions would be an asset to the building. Conm. Freese commended the applicant for the way in which he located the build- ing on the lot, his feeling was that this gave applicant more benefit of the lot size. Applicant agreed and stated that they did not have the final survey results but the lot was really an odd shape. Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Grimshaw, to accept the plans with the conditionsllisted below: 1) addition of more roof tile on the site 2) wood trim around the window, as discussed Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None None 1839 PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY Request by the Hermosa Hospital for fi.nal approval of plans for commercial remodel. This had received conceptual approval from the commission previ'ously. Motion by Comm. Fridrich, seconded by Comm. Grimshaw, to approve plans as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: SIGN REVIEW Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None None 3127 MANHATTAN AVENUE Request by Boccato's Market for sign review. Applicant, Peter Bocatto, was present. H.I.C. MINUTES CONTINUED June 20, 1978 Chmn. Foreman was concerned that the merchandise-was so visible, she worried perhaps that is an invitation for a robbery. She had understood that there would be plants behind the glass which would cover the merchandise. Applicant explained that there would be plants, but he had arranged a good security system to prevent theft for the present. Comm. Freese complimented the applicant by saying he had incorporated the signs nicely into the building concept. Chmn. Foreman indicated s.he liked the sign; however, where does the sign begin and the advertising concept end? This has been an on-going question. At a certain point it stops being a sign and starts being adveritising. The Commission has to differentiate because it would prefer a sign rather than advertising. However, the signs appear well planned and well thought out. Comm. Grimshaw expressed some concern at the applicants plan to use a pasted on form of lettering rather than painted lettering for the sign. In answer to Chmn. Foreman's question, the applicant stated the letters were made of a sort of vinyl material. To Comm. Grimshaw's expressed concern, the applicant stated he felt the material will not chip or peel or discolor. If they do not work, applicant will remove the plastic and paint the sign. Motion by omm. Fridrich, seconded by Comm. Freese, to approve as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman Comm. Grimshaw None 635 MONTEREY BLVD. page 5 Request by Joseph & Hrair Sogomanian, 20840 Hal1dale Ave., Torrance, CA, for sign review at Lemaster's Grocery. Applicant was present and explained change of color of sign. There had been complaints from neighbors with regard to the red coloring so he changed it to brown on beige. Chmn. Foreman felt the change was for the better, expecially if the neighbors have complained about the other. In answer to Chmn. Foreman's corrnnent that the bottom sign was not centered, the applicant explained he was going to add another word (11candies 11 ). Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve the sign as is, with corrections: 1) 11grocery 11 sign to be repainted on side elevations 2) "candies" to be added to sign at the bottom center Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fridrich,. Grimshaw, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None None f H.I.C~ MINUTES CONTINUED June 20, 1978 STAFF REPORTS I Based on the workshop meeting with the City Council, staff has contacted other cities regarding design review practices. Mr. King presented a brochure from the City of Palo Alto. He will run off copies for the commissioner~ or request some booklets sent down from Palo Alto. Mr. King distributed material from the City Attorney, clarifying the definition of site. Staff will obtain copies of the minutes of City Council meeting in regards to the monument sign at 1100 Pacific Coast Highway. COMMISSIONERS I REPORT Motion by Comm. Grimshaw, seconded by Comm. Freese, to adjourn. So ordered. meeting adjourned at 9:25 p.m. CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes were approved by the Hermosa Improvement Commission on July 6, 1978. ~~ PAMELA .HENDER$,SECRETARY