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HomeMy WebLinkAbout(HIC)_(Minutes)_(September 19, 1978)MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HERMOSA IMPROVEMENT COMMISSION, SEPTEMBER 19, 1978, HELD IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 8:00 P.M. ( Meeting called to order at 8:00 P.M. ROLL CALL Present: Absent: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland, Chmn. Foreman Also Present: Comm. Grimshaw, Shiffer (arrived late) Ed King, Staff APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve the minutes of the July 18, 1978 meeting as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None Absent: Comm. Grimshaw, Shiffer Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve the minutes of August 1, 1978 as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman None Absent: Comm. Grimshaw, Shiffer Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve the minutes of August 15, 1978 as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Chmn~ Foreman None Absent: Comm. Grimshaw Comm. Freeland made the following corrections to the minutes of September 5, 1978: 1. Page 4, 517 Pier Avenue -Paragraph 6 to read Comm. Freeland asked Mr. Campazzi if he felt the roof sign was needed. Mr. Carnpazzi said he did not, so Comm. Freeland suggested removing the existing sign and putting the proposed sign on the front instead. The applicant concurred. 2. Page 5, Commissioner's Items -Paragraph 1 to read Comm. Freeland asked Mr. King about the citation procedure because he was concerned about the Council's policy with regard to the issuance of citations. Motion by Comm. Hendersen, seconded by Comm. Freese, to approve the minutes of September 5, 1978 as corrected. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen Chrnn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw • :_ HI C ,? MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 PAGE 2 IMPROVEMENT COMMISSION ITEMS ~,-. Chmn. Foreman explained that the Commission acts in three roles: As a recommending body on anything that needs to be improved in the City, and additionally as a sign and design review board. She encouraged residents to bring to the attention of staff any such needed improvements. Commission currently working on trash study to consolidate trash. Chmn. Foreman said that anyone inter- ested is welcome to attend the September 25, 1978 meeting at 9:00 AM. Commissioners nominate outstanding building designs and signs for awards which are voted on at Commission meetings. Chmnr Foreman added that anyone currently working on a project they feel worthy of an award should bring it to the Commissioners' attention. BEAUTIFICATION AWARD NOMINEE (2118 Loma) Mr. King noted that the building was still being finalized. Chmn. Foreman asked if it is a new structure. Mr. King replied that it is a new single family dwelling. Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Comm. Freese, to hold the nom- ination until the building has been finalized. So ordered. Chmn. Foreman nominated the remodel on 27th Street for an award (add- ress not known) . Chmn. Foreman nominated Cafe Hermosa at 1014 Hermosa Avenue for an award for both the design and sign. Staff Report Mr. King gave a report on the trash subcommittee meeting of Comm. Freese, Chmn. Foreman, Ed King, representatives of Browing Ferris Industries, representatives of City Council, representatives of Chamber of Commerce. Mr. King stated that he presented slides of Lot A, Band C (downtown) at that meeting. He felt that it was a productive meeting. He added that the Chamber of Commerce pointed out concerns of the businessmen and that Browning Ferris Industries also provided some input. He said that everyone concluded that the proposed trash consolidation rec- ommendations are good. Mr. King noted that BFI will present data on estimated costs and the City Engineer and a VPD representative will also make presentations at the next subcommittee meeting on September 28, 1978. Chmn. Foreman added that as of March 1979, trash containers will have to be enclosed. She recommended getting agreements to trash enclosure provisions from design review applicants. Comm. Freeland asked if mandatory enclosed trash containers is an adopted ordinance. Mr. King answered yes and explained the important issues are that containers be inaccessible to children and animals and that they not intrude on public access. Comm. Freeland asked if the ordinance would affect all existing residences. Mr. King said it ~urrently affected residences constructed after 1973. The March 1979 date will affect all other structures. .. HIC-MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19r 1978 PAGE 3 ' DESIGN REVIEW Chmn. Foreman asked applicants to state name and address. She also called attention to the sign which states that all actions of the Commission may be appealed within ten (10) days. 120 Manhattan Request for review of colors for duplex. recieved a phone message which noted that yellow trim. The Commissioners agreed to they wanted to see samples of the colors. Mr. King said that he had the colors would be white with hold over this review because 906 3rd Street Request by Eric Lapeyrollerie, owner, for addition and remodel. Mr. Lapeyrollerie explained that the roof has to be removed because the ceiling is in bad shape. He requested a flat roof. Comm. Shiffer asked if the section in the back was a new structure. The applicant replied it was a remodel. Chmnr Foreman asked about the driveway and about landscaping. Mr. Lapeyrollerie explained that the driveway was temporarily being used for construction materials. He said that he would landscape. He added that something needed to be done about the street because cars were always running into his house. Mr. King advised the applicant to contact the Planning Commission about the problem. Mr. Lapeyrollerie also requested to cut a deck in the roof in the rear of the house. Chmn. Foreman asked if his request had been approved by the Building Department. Mr. King commented that he had suggested Mr. Lapeyrollerie show his deck plan to the Improvement Commission. Mr. King added that the deck plan would have to be approved by the Building Department. Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Shiffer, to approve the request for addition and remodel. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Comm. Freese, to conceptually approve the deck plan pending approval by the Building Department. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen Chmnr Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw Chmn. Foreman said she would also like to deal with the landscaping. Mr. Lapeyrollerie said he would like to get some ideas before dis- ·~ cussing it. Chmn. Foreman suggested that he come back to the Improve- ment Commission with a landscaping plan at no additional fee. HIC ,MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 PAGE 4 Chmn. Foreman expressed concern about all the signs in front of Mr. - Lapeyrollerie's house. Chmn. Foreman asked Mr. King to send a letter to r\ the Public Works Dept. recommending sign removal and relocation. The Comm- ission concurred with Chrnn. Foreman's recommendation that the matter be sent to the Public Works Dept. for review and correction. Comm. Freeland sugg- ested consolidating the signs with a reflector sign. He added that the sign could be put on the property line and placed lower. He felt a "No Left Turn" sign was needed at the intersection. 1260 7th Street Request by Pat McDonald for residential addition. Chrnn. Foreman asked about the frames on the sliding door and windows. The applicant replied they would be anodized aluminum. Motion by Comm. Fridrich, seconded by Comm. Freese, to approve the request. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw 730 Cypress Request by Miklos Barabas of 2402 Pacific Coast Hwy. for a duplex. Chinn. Foreman asked where the trash collection area would be located. Mr. Barabas replied it would be in the garage. Chmn. Foreman asked if that would interfere with parking. Mr. Barabas said that there would be a separate area (built out) for the trash. Comm. Shiffer asked about landscaping. Mr. Barabas said that not much could be done on the side, but that ground cover and shrubs. would be used in the backyard, with planters, where possible, in front, on either side of the driveway approach. I Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Comm. Freese, to approve the request as submitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw 914 Third Street Request by Mr. Glider for 2nd story addition. Mr. King distributed a handout showing the remaining elevations. Comm. Freeland asked if the color of the 2nd story would match the existing building. Mr. Glider replied that the whole building would be sand- blasted and painted one color. Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve as requested. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw ;HIC~MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 PAGE 5 Mr. Glider asked what was the next procedure. Mr. King advised him to go to the Building Department and get a plan check; and next get a build- /--'> ing permit. 1530 STRAND Request by Edward Skebe for remodel. Mr. King noted that the applicant wanted to remodel the existing duplex and extend the deck. Chrnn. Foreman expressed concern about the type of tile to be used. Comm. Freeland asked about the Commission's policy on red tile roofs. Chrnn. Foreman said that in the past the policy has been to encourage con- tinuity. Chmn. Foreman added that she would like to discuss this request with the applican~ (not present) because she felt it would substantially change the building. Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Comm. Hendersen, to continue this request to the October 3rd meeting. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw Chmn. Foreman asked Mr. King to notify the applicant. 434 Gentry Request by George Xifo for an addition. Comm. Freeland asked what was planned for the rest of the property. Mr. Xifo said the yard would be maintained, the fence would be replaced with a new grapestake fence and the driveway will. be made with railroad ties and brick. He added that the brick planters will remain. Chmn. Foreman asked if there was any way to mask the meter box and pipe in the front. Mr. Xifo said the pipe is not visable because of a tree. He said that the meter box could be redone. Motion by Comm. Fridrich, seconded by Comm. Shiffer, to approve as sub- mitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: 426 31st Street Comm. Freeser Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw Request by Frank Swanson, designer, and Dana Keniry, owner, for remodel and addition. Mr. King noted that the balcony would be changed. Chmn. Foreman asked the applicant if he would consider a facia beam between the 1st and 2nd story, or the west side elevation. Mr. Swanson ·'=-' answered in the affirmative. Chmn. Foreman asked what type of tile would be used. Mr. Swanson replied a lightweight ceramic or cement tile. ·: HIC-",MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 PAGE 6 Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Shiffer, to approve as modified (addition of beam on western elevation). Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw Chmn. Foreman called a five minute recess. The meeting reconvened at 9:23 P.M. SIGN REVIEW Chmn. Foreman cautioned that no signing may be put up in addition to those signs approved. She added that additional temporary signs may be applied for, for a period of thirty days. 1081 Aviation Request by Sean Carney for a projecting sign. Comm. Fridrich asked the applicant if the sign would be centered. The applicant said it would be placed in the right corner of the building. Motion by Comm. Freese, seconded by Comm. Fridrich, to approve as sub- mitted. Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Chmn. Foreman None Comm. Grimshaw 1100 Pacific Coast Highway Request by Roger Bacon, developer, for a sign can. Chmn. Foreman noted that the allowable sign area has been incorrectly de- termined for this project. She stated that according to the City Attorney, it is up to the Commission to clarify the basis for future determinations. Chmn. Foreman read Section 28Al3 of the City ordinance, Items 1 and 2 which state that the sign area will be calculated according to which street the stores front on, and Item 4 which states that no sign shall cover more than 40% of that fascia. Comm. Freeland asked if there would be any effect on this sign. Chmn. Foreman assured him it would only affect future signing. Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Chmn. Foreman, to approve the amount of square footage based on an imaginary line that would be brought from the property line to the corner of Aviation and Pacific Coast Highway (from the south edge on Aviation due west until it meets Pacific Coast Highway). This would give 1252 square feet of allowable signing. Mr. Bacon noted a letter dated 3/3/78 from the Improvement Commission ~ advising him that he had 2600 square feet allowable signing (based on Pacific Coast Highway, Aviation Boulevard and Aubrey Court). He added that he had used this figure all along and it had not been questioned before, .• HIC-· MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 PAGE 7 . . Mr. King read a section of the Sign Ordinance which states the formula for computing allowable sign area, at Comm. Freeland's request. Mr. Bacon noted that Security Pacific Bank does have exposure on Aviation. Chmn. Foreman agreed, but said that the Sign Ordinance spec- ifies street frontage. Comm. Freeland felt there was a great ambiguity as to what constitutes frontage. Chmn. Foreman said that is what the City Attorney has asked the Commission to clarify. Chmn. Foreman said she discovered the error when she got the comprehensive plan. She added that the Commission cannot go on making the same error. She noted that the variance would only be required because of the request for a fourth can on the pole sign. Ayes: . Noes:- Absent: Comm. Freese, Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Chmn. Foreman Comm. Freeland Comm. Grimshaw Mr. King read the procedure for -granting a variance. He noted that Mr. Bacon would like approval of the can but not the copy because of changes in tenants. Chmn. Foreman asked Mr. Bacon about the temporary sandwich signs. Mr. Bacon assured her that they were all down. Mr. Bacon explained that he did not have the copy for the sign because he has to find out exactly how many tenants want to be included and then get prices. Comm. Hendersen asked Mr. Bacon to give an estimate on the number of tenants. Mr. Bacon said he did not know. Comm. Hendersen asked Mr. King if the Commission could approve a sign without knowing how many entities would be included. Mr. King said they could approve con- tingent on the copy. Mr. Bacon said it would probably be about 6-8 tenants. Chmn. Foreman asked Mr. Bacon if he would object to having copy approved later or agree to approval based on 6-8 tenants. Mr. Bacon requested approval of the can only. Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Comm. Freeland, to grant a vari- ance for the fourth can on the pole sign based on the following findings: 1. A majority of the businesses in that area do have signing along Pacific Coast Highway. 2. There is an expressed hardship, without signing along Pacific Coast Highway. on tenants of the Shopping Center. 3. It would not adversly affect public safety. Mr. Bacon presented a rendering of the proposed can. Chmn. Foreman asked for a completion date on the sheathing. Mr. Bacon said he had to get together with tenants and get an agreement on the amount of money to spend. He added that it would also depend on the type of wood and availability of the materials. He asked to be allowed six months. He added that he had waited six to eight months for the Commission to give sign approval. Chmn. Foreman corrected his statement, noting that the delays were not due to faults of the Commission, but due to the applicant's delay in submitting his applications. (__,, Motion by Comm. Shiffer, seconded by Comm. Freeland, to amend the orig- inal motion by adding the stipulation that the sheathing be completed within 90 days. HIC.MINUTES CONTINUED SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 Ayes: Noes: Absent: Comm. Shiffer, Fridrich, Hendersen, Freeland Comm. Freese, Chmn. Foreman Comm. Grimshaw Chrnn. Foreman stated that she voted no beeause the building was not moved 200 feet after approval of the original signing. 120 Manhattan Avenue -(continued from earlier in Agenda) PAGE 8 Motion by Comm. Fridrich, seconded by Comm. Freeland, to approve the re- quest. Ayes: Noes: Absent: STAFF REPORTS Comm. Freese, Fridrich, Freeland, Chrnn, Foreman Comm. Shiffer, Hendersen Comm. Grimshaw Mr. King stated that a list of all existing illegal signs had been sent to the Chamber of Commerce. He said they would be given two weeks to contact the violators. He added that letters will be going out to those people indicating the violation and advising them that citations will be given if the violation is not corrected. Chrnn. Foreman commented that she felt the violators at Pacific Park Plaza should have been cited because they had been warned about their signs at previous Commission meetings. She added that if they put up the sandwich signs in violation again, that she would recommend citations be given. COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS Comm. Freeland asked when the improvements on Hermosa Avenue would be completed. Mr. King said he would find out. Comm. Freeland asked if anything had been proposed for Seaview Inn. Mr. King replied that a 30-unit condominium, 60-unit motel and stores have been proposed and approved. Comm. Fridrich said goodbye (last meeting). Chrnn. Foreman thanked him for his participation. Motion by Comm. Fridrich, seconded by Comm. Hendersen to adjourn the meeting. So ordered. The meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M. CERTIFICATION