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MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
HELO ON FEBRUARY 16, 1988, AT 7:30 P.M. IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Meeting called to order at 7:31 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Andrew Perea.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
Comms. DeBellis, Ingell, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Compton
None
Michael Schubach, Planning Director; James P. Lough, City Attorney;
Andrew Perea, Associate Planner; Sally White, Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. DeBellis, to approve the minutes of
February 2, 1988, as submitted. Noting the abstention of Comm. Rue, no objections; so
ordered.
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to appr.0v.e Resolutior:i P.C. 88-
4, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSfON OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDfNG THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AMEND THE
ZONING ORDINANCE IN REGARD TO THE DEFINITION, LOCATION, AND
COMPUTATION OF OPEN SPACE AND A NEGATIVE DECLARATION. Noting the
abstention of Comm. Rue, no objections; so ordered.
Comm. De Bellis asked whether the City Attorney had prepared Resolution P .C. 88-12.
Mr. Lough stated that he did not draft the resolution; however, he has reviewed it, and it
appears to be legally enforceable. He stated that it is similar to ordinances used in other
cities, and it seems to be effective.
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Comm. lngell, to approve Resolution P.C. 88-
12, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING A TEXT AMENDMENT ESTABLISHING
PENAL TIES FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT VIOLA TIO NS. Noting the abstention of
Comm. Rue, no objections; so ordered.
MOTION by Chmn. Compton, seconded by Comm. Ingell, to approve Resolution P.C. 88-
15, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA
BEACH, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ADO STANDARD
CONDITIONS FOR "CARETAKER UNITS" IN THE M ZONE. Noting the abstention of
Comm. Rue, no objections; so ordered.
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
Dave Shaw, 20 l Via Mesa Grande, Redondo Beach, addressed the Commission and stated
that he has just learned that his conditional use permit for a four-unit condominium
project in the City will expire tomorrow, noting that the permit is two years old. He
asked what he should do. He stated that the project is in progress, and he has already
obtained the required permits.
Mr. Schubach recommended that, since the project is in progress, the applicant should
submit in writing a request for an extension. The matter can them be put on the agenda
for the next meet.ing of the Planning Commission. At that time the Commission can
decide whether or not to extend the tentative tract map for another year.
Chmn. Compton stated that after Mr. Shaw submits his written request for a tentative
tract map extension, staff can direct him in regard to the next step to be taken.
VARIANCE TO PROVIDE LESS THAN THE REQUIRED USABLE OPEN SPACE AT 40
7TH COURT (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF 2/2/88)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 10, 1988. The staff environmental review
committee, at their meeting of November 5, 1987, recommended that the Planning
Commission grant a negative declaration for the subject parcel.
The Planning Commission, at their meeting of January 5, 1988, granted the applicant a
continuance to allow the applicant time to design alternate plans. The Planning
Commission, at their meeting of February 2, 1988, granted the applicant a continuance
to allow the applicant time to consult with an attorney.
Mr. Knickerbocker, an attorney representing the applicant, met with staff and submitted
a revised plan to alleviate the open space problem. The new plan will alleviate the open
space problem, but it will require other variances; e.g., intrusions into the required
setback.
The revised plan submitted by Mr. Knickerbocker shows two stairways leading to the roof
to create a deck to provide the required open space. The proposed spiral stairways
encroach into the setback and have some building problems that the applicant is
attempting to resolve with the Building Department.
Since these pl.ans will require a new variance request, staff is recommending that the
Planning Commission deny the variance request to provide less than the required parking
and require the applicant to submit a new application for the intrusion into the
setbacks. Mr. Schubach stated that the applicant is aware of this recommendation, and
the attorney concurs.
Public Hearing opened at 7:42 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Richard Knickerbocker, attorney for the applicants, addressed the Commission. He
explained that the applicants are in the process of revising the plans; and it has been
determined that a different variance will be necessary for the modified plans. He stated
that he wished to express a good faith effort on the part of the applicants in their
attempt to design an alternative project.
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Mr. Knickerbocker noted that the applicant has paid approximately one thousand dollars
for this variance request; therefore, it is hoped that the revised plan could be modified Lo
become part of the same variance request. He noted that he was informed by staff that
the only way this could be done is to obtain a waiver from the City Council. He hoped
that when the revised plans are submitted, the Planning Commission will recommend to
the City Council that there be a waiver of fees.
Chmn. Compton noted that this lot had been split; he asked when this occurred.
Mr. Knickerbocker stated that the lot split occurred long before the present owner
acquired this property; however, he was not certain exactly when it happened. He noted
that the lot split makes it almost impossible to develop this property and be in
conformance with all current requirements.
Public Hearing closed at 7:43 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Comm. Rue noted concern that the applicant may be proceeding without enough
direction from staff.
Mr. Schubach stated that staff would give direction to the applicant; however, at this
time the only certain factor is that the applicant will need a variance for the project.
He noted that the lot is small in size, and that could be taken into consideration for
granting a variance.
Comm. Rue felt that the applicant is making a good faith effort to revise the plans in
order to conform with all requirements.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to accept staff's recommendation
to deny the request for a variance to provide less than the required usable open space at
40 7th Court.
Chmn. Compton noted that the applicant has not provided a site plan showing the ground
level area for this property. He stated that he would prefer to see more detailed plans
for this project, especially the location of the garage, stairway, the fence in relation to
surrounding properties, and open space areas.
Comm. Rue concurred and stated that he would prefer to have a conceptual drawing for
the project. He was particularly interested in the proposed landscaping and treatment
for the project.
There being no objections to the motion; so ordered.
Chmn. Compton noted that any decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Council within ten days.
VARIANCE TO ALLOW A DECK TO ENCROACH INTO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AT
845 AND 845 1/2 EIGHTH STREET (CONTINUED FROM MEETING OF 2/2/88}
Mr. Schubach gave staU report dated February 9, 1988. On November 19, 1987, the
environmental staff review committee approved a negative declaration for this project
and recommended a denial of the variance.
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The Planning Commission, at their meeting of January 19, 1988, continued this item to
the first meeting in February so that the Building Director could be available to answer
questions and deliver input reg arding this matte r.
Follow ing a reque st by the applicant and the Building Director, the Planning Commission,
at their meeting of February 2, 1988, granted a continuance of the matter to this
meeting.
This project involves the construction of a deck 10' by 21.5" protruding into the sideyard
from the second story. The applicants have built a deck 2.5' by 24" without obtaining the
proper permits. Now the app licants are proposing to reduce the size of the deck to 10' by
21.5"; although any project ions of the deck will require a variance.
The existing dwell ing, established on a 40' by 7 5' foot lot, has a sideyard setback of three
feet. Current zoning regulations, however, would require a four-foot setback for this R-
2 lot. Therefore, this structure is already nonconforming.
Based on this information, it is in the opinion of staff that th is lot does not contain
exceptional or extraordinary dimensions that would warrant this variance request. In
addition, this variance is not necessary for a property right enjoyed by others and denied
to this property owner.
Bill Grove, Building Director, addressed the Commission. He noted that he had provided
the Commiss ion with additional written information related to this variance request and
how it may impact on the building code requirements.
Mr. Grove stated that the method by which this building was originally constructed would
not conform to current building code requirements. Bl:l1i ·1 . .i:s,· st.1b;ject to a zoning
variance, and it is still possible to have an encroachment into the sideyard that does
conform to the building code.
Mr. Grove stated that in this case, the building code allows for encroachments into the
required sideyard not more than 12 inches into the areas where openings are prohibited.
In this case, there would be an allowable projection of 1.1 feet, and the projection would
have to be constructed of either non-combustible material or have a one-hour fire
resistancy, unless a modification to the requirements were granted by the Board of
Appeals.
Mr. Grove stated that he had no other information at this time related to building code
issues in regard to this particular project.
Chmn. Compton asked whether any other cases such as this have gone before the Board
of Appeals.
Mr. Grove stated that he knew of no similar cases in recent history. He stated that a
case such as this would also normally require a zone variance; therefore , any similar case
would need to come before the Planning Commission prior to going before the Board of
Appeals.
Chmn. Compton noted that many homes in the City appear to have projections into the
sideyard very much like this one. He could understand how the applicant went ahead
with this project, stating that the applicant probably proceeded based on the assumption
that it would be acceptable because so many other people had done the same thing.
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Chmn. Compton asked whether such a projection could create a fire or safety hazard.
Mr. Grove replied in the affirmative, noting that structures built so closely together
could indeed pose safety hazards. He continued by discussing the dangers connected with
eave overhangs and balconies, explaining that fire tends to travel along these
projections. He noted, however, that the Building Department does not have the
authority to require the removal of nonconforming structures built prior to the current
regulations and which do not conform to the current requirements.
Comm. DeBellis asked, for clarification, whether a variance would be necessary in order
for the applicant to have the 1.1 foot encroachment into the sideyard.
Mr. Grove replied in the affirmative.
Comm. DeBellis asked, in the event findings could not be made for granting the variance,
whether the applicant would still be allowed to keep the glass doors so long as a railing
were insta11ed in order to keep people from falling out of the door.
Mr. Grove replied in the affirmative.
Public Hearing opened at 7:53 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Douglas Strickland, 845 8th Street, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the
Commission. He asked for clarification of what Mr. Grove said regarding an allowable
projection of l.l feet into the sideyard.
Chmn. Compton explained to the applicant that the zoning code allows for virtually no
projections into the side yard. According to the building cede, if there were no zoning
code in effect, the building code would allow up to a maximum of one foot extension; so
the only variance which would be reasonable, if a variance were to be granted, would be
no more than 1.1 foot.
Mr. Strickland asked for clarification of the comments made in regard to a one-hour fire
construction.
Chmn. Compton explained that if there is any type of projection at all, a variance is
necessary. If the variance were granted, the projection extending into the sideyard must
be constructed either in a fire construction method approved by the Building Department
or be of a non-combustible material, such as metal. It would be necessary to cover the
deck with something such as stucco or a material which is fire retardant.
Mr. Strickland stated that he would reduce the deck to 1.1 feet and stated that it would
not be a problem for him to stucco the deck area.
Chmn. Compton felt that one foot would not be usable as a deck. He asked whether the
applicant would be willing to make the area even smaller, such as having it merely as a
plant shelf.
Mr. Strickland stated that he would be willing to accept the decision of the Commission.
Public Hearing closed at 7:58 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Comm. Rue asked for clarification on whether a variance would be necessary for the 1.1
foot projection.
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Mr. Grove stated that there are actually two regulations which need to be addressed in
this matter. One is the zoning stan da r d, and the other is the building code standard.
According to the building code standard, the allowable projection into an area where
openings are prohibited is, in this case, the 1.1 foot projection. From a zoning
standpoint, balconies have not been historically treated as architectural projections and
allowed under that section. But other architectural projections are allowed . which may
en cro a ch 30 inches into a required sideyard, providing a minimum of 30 inches is
m a intaine d clear to the side lot line. Therefore, if this were restricted to that kind of
architectural projection, the projection would be only slightly more than six inches in
order to still maintain the 30 inches clear to the side lot requirement.
Comm. Rue asked whether stucco has an approved one-hour fire rating.
Mr. Grove stated that it does, providing it is tested assembly.
Chmn. Compton asked what is currently allowed as architectural projections.
Mr. Grove noted that later in tonight's agenda the topic of architectural projections will
be addressed. The code currently limits architectural projections to eaves, belt courses,
sills, and buttresses. In this case, if the projection were considered more as a planter
shelf, the Commission may wish to make a decision on that basis.
Mr. Grove stated that in the past balconies have not been considered as architectural
projections because they constitute usable floor space area.
MOTION by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve a 1.1 foot balcony on
property located at 845 and 845 1/2 8th Street.
Comm. Rue asked that the motion be modified to include wording stating that the
material must be of a one-hour fire construction.
Comm. Peirce stated that such a modification is unnecessary, noting that the project
must conform to all building code requirements; however, he agreed to such an
amendment to the motion.
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION by Comm. Peirce as maker and agreed to by Comm. Rue
as second, to add wording specifying that the balcony must meet one-hour fire treatment
requirements.
Comm. DeBellis asked Comm. Peirce what basis there is for the granting of this
variance.
Comm. Peirce felt that this small projection is not objectionable and provides a
substantial benefit to this particular opening. If the projection is denied, the applicant
would need to put a railing across the door opening flush with the building which he felt
to be negligible.
Comm. DeBellis responded that this same finding could be applied to almost every
property in the City; therefore, if it is felt that the law is not appropriate, the law should
be changed. He stated that based on this, he could not support the motion.
Chmn. Compton stated that possibly the law does need to be changed. He continued by
discussing what is allowed in another, unmentioned city to the south~
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Chmn. Compton stated that there are many ex panses of large , flat buildi ngs in the Ci t y,
and he considers them to be quite unattractive . He felt t ha t a reasonabl e alternat i ve
should be adopted to allow for sligh t projections i nt o sideyards to a ll eviate these
unattractive fac ades. He stressed, however, t hat the projections should pose no type of
safety problem.
Chmn. Compton stated that he would tend to support the motion; however, he feels that
this issue needs to be addressed further.
Comm. Rue discussed the findings and stated that this building is dark and it is
nonconforming. He noted that he had difficulty in making the required findings to grant
this particular variance, other than the fact that this is an existing building with a very
nice view to the west.
Chmn. Compton agreed that the exceptional circumstance is the view, noting that there
are only a tiny number of homes in the entire country with such an ocean view.
Comm. DeBellis retorted that more homes in town would have better views if everyone
were required to build five-foot sliders without permits and then came in later to request
a variance. He noted that this request is for an after-the-fact project. He felt that if
the City does not want this type of activity to occur, the law should be changed. He felt
that it is inappropriate to stretch the findings to accommodate this situation.
Comm. Ingell stated that he was absent from the first hearing of this matter.
Comm. Peirce noted that he was absent from the first public hearing on this matter;
however, he has viewed the tape and read the minutes and all applicable materials, and
he felt confident in making a decision on this project.
Co mm . Rue asked if the applicant could use wrought iron for the railing, stating that he
f ee ls t he iron would look more attractive and airier and would also appear to be more of
an architectural projection. He noted, also, that after stucco is applied and the width of
the wood is taken into account, the actual projection area would be only six or seven
inches; he could see no benefit in that.
Mr. Grove stated that wrought iron would be acceptable . .He continued by discussing
with the Commission various options available for the railing.
Comm. Rue noted difficulty in making the required findings to grant this variance. He
asked if the applicant had any further input on this matter.
Mr. Strickland stated that he would use wrought iron if the Commission preferred. He
said the wooden flooring would be stuccoed and then the wrought iron railing could be
installed above that. He noted that his wife would like to put plants on the small metal
ledge.
Comm. Rue noted that the project now becomes more of an architectural treatment,
rather than a balcony. He agreed that the law should be changed since the findings
cannot be made.
Mr. Strickland asked how changing the law would impact his project.
Mr. Lough described the chain of events involved in amending the zoning ordinance. He
stated that this matter would then need to start over from scratch. He noted that the
entire process would take approximately four months.
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Mr. Schubach noted that this issue is on the agenda for discussion by the Planning
Commission.
Mr. Lough and the Commission discussed what would happen to this project if it is
continued until such time that a decision is made in regard to architectural treatments.
Comm. Ingell asked whether this item could be continued until after a modification is
made to the ordinance.
Chmn. Compton did not feel a continuance would change anyone's mind in regard to this
variance.
Comm. DeBellis called for the question.
(Vote on the MOTION to approve a 1.1 foot balcony as stated by Comm. Peirce.)
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
MOTION DIES.
Comm. Peirce
Comms. DeBellis, Rue, Chmn. Compton
Comm. Ingell
None
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. DeBellis, to accept staff's recommendation
to deny the variance to allow a deck to encroach into the sideyard setback at 845 and
845 1/2 8th Street.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, Rue, Chmn. Compton
Comm. Peirce
Comm. Ingell
None
Chmn. Compton noted that any decision of the Planning Commission may be appealed by
writing to the City Council within ten days.
VARIANCE TO ENCROACH INTO THE 17-FOOT PARKING SETBACK AT 905 15TH
PLACE (CONTINUED FROM THE MEETING OF 2/2/88)
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 10, 1988. The Planning Commission, at
their meeting of August 18, 198 7, denied a variance request to encroach into the required
seventeen-foot setback and to have less than the required 400 square feet of open space.
At the Planning Commission meeting of January 5, 1988, the applicant was allowed a new
hearing of his variance request. This matter was continued to allow for the request to be
publicly noticed.
The Planning Commission, at their meeting of February 2, 1988, continued this item to
give the applicant an opportunity to meet with the Planning Director and Building
Director to clarify any misunderstanding.
Mr. Perea cont inued the staff report, explaining that Mr. Nuttall met with the Planning
Director and the Building Director to discuss plans submitted on November 2, 1987. The
plans submitted on November 2, 1987, are a third plan which incorporates the existing
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garage. Both Building and Planning Departments are in concurrence and find the plans
submitted on November 2, 1987, to be in violation of the zoning code sections listed in
the letter dated November 3, 1987.
Mr. Perea continued by discussing the detached garage and the proposal to attach it to
the main structure, which would then render it nonconforming.
The different plans submitted by the applicant all incorporate the center open courtyard
area. The courtyard area is a specific design feature that the applicant desires, but
which will require a variance. There are several other design alternatives available
which will allow a substantial increase in the floor area of the existing structure without
requiring any variances or removal and/or modification of any type for the purpose of
conformance with current ordinances. Staff is recommending denial of this variance
since there are no unusual circumstances to justify granting this variance.
Comm. Peirce asked whether the applicant could leave the existing garage and attach
the garage, with the proper setbacks on the new construction, to the existing house
without having to tear down the garage thereby triggering the 17-foot setback
requirement.
Mr. Schubach stated that if the garage is attached to the house, the house would then
become even more nonconforming. He noted that this fact was asserted in Item No. 2 of
the letter sent from the Building Department to the applicant. If the garage is partially
town down so that it is not as close to the property line, there would not be much
remaining; the east and west walls would then need to be torn down, and then the garage
door would be on the alley side and would need to be removed. All that would remain
would be a small portion of wall on the south side.
Comm. Peirce asked: if the garage remains as it is, and was stepped back to the sideyard
setback from that point, and then attached to the house, would the proper sideyard
setback for that particular extension exist.
Mr. Schubach explained that doing so would involve removing a portion of the garage,
which would then make the garage too small.
Comm. Peirce and Mr. Schubach continued by discussing the garage and its attachment
to the house.
Mr. Perea explained that the garage is currently 1.6 feet from the side property line. As
a detached structure, it can remain as a conforming structure; however, once it is
attached to the main structure, it would no longer be a detached structure, and it would
become nonconforming.
Mr. Schubach stated that the garage can be added to; however, it must meet the current
setback requirements.
Chmn. Compton noted that he has never run into this problem before. He continued by
discussing the interpretation with Mr. Schubach.
Bill Grove, Building Director, addressed the Commission. He explained that the zoning
code provides for different regulations for main buildings and accessory buildings in some
cases. He continued by discussing the letter he wrote, wherein it states a detached
garage meeting the seven criteria can be located either on a side or rear property line.
Clearly, a main structure cannot do that. At the present time, however, the garage
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complies with six out of seven of the requirements. It is very nearly a conforming
structure as it exists now; but by attaching it to the main structure, it would become
part of the main structure and thereby be nonconforming because the main structure
would then become 1.6 feet from the side property line in lieu of the current 2.7 feet.
Mr. Grove stated that the use would become that of a nonconforming building as opposed
to a nonconforming use. He continued by explaining why this would not be permitted
under the current zoning code regulations.
Comm. Peirce noted that any new structure would need to comply with current zoning;
therefore, he could see no difference between this and a case where someone tears down
the entire garage and claims he was just improving his property in order to avoid
triggering the 17-foot setback requirement. He stated that he could see the point of the
zoning ordinance in this case; however, he does not agree with it.
Chmn. Compton asked which one of the seven requirements this garage does not meet.
Mr. Grove replied that the garage does not comply with the one-hour fire resistant
construction requirement for the property line location.
Mr. Grove stated that Mr. Nut t all presented a set of plans to the Building Department
which differed from those presented to the Planning Commission. The Building
Department noted that t hat plan would also require variances. He noted that the
applicant can proceed with a project which would require no variance; however, the
applicant doesn't want to do that; he wants to build the project he originally proposed.
The problem is that the applicant wants to maintain an interior courtyard, which takes up
too much of the lot. He said that the applicant can add substantially to the property in a
way which would be in compliance with all the requirements .. _
Chmn. Compton felt that the concept of the courtyard is admirable, and he does not feel
that the applicant's request is unreasonable based on what the City has allowed in the
past. The fact that this applicant has a nonconforming garage setback is also not unusual
in the City. He asked whether the main concern of the Building Department is in regard
to access.
Mr. Grove stated what he felt to be the intention of the original drafters of the
ordinance.
Comm. Rue asked about the 17-foot setback requirement for garages which are added on
to.
Mr. Schubach discussed his interpretation of the 17-foot setback requirement as it
applies to nonconforming uses.
Comm. Peirce noted that he could see no difference between this plan and the plan that
the Commission has discussed several times already.
Mr. Schubach agreed, stating that the applicant still desires to build his original plan,
Plan A.
Public Hearing opened at 8:38 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Fleet Nuttall, 905 15th Place, Hermosa Beach, applicant, addressed the Commission. He
stated that he had nothing new to add to what he has already said to the Commission. He
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summarized his previous testimony, and he showed a plan of what he would like to do.
He stated that Plan A would best satisfy the needs of his neighborhood. He noted that
Plan B would remove two on-street parking spaces. He felt that the spirit of the
ordinance is best met by Plan A. He further noted that he would prefer to have an
enclosed four-car garage.
Comm. DeBellis noted that Plan A has raised concern among the Commission because of
a potential bootleg unit. He noted that the code requires only two enclosed parking
spaces with two guest parking spaces which can be open. He noted concern over such a
large enclosed garage.
Mr. Nuttall continued by discussing various parking options at this project. He noted,
however, that if the intent is there, a bootleg can be made from any available space.
Chmn. Compton asked whether the applicant would consider having two of the four
parking spaces open.
Mr. Nuttall stated that he would very much resist the idea of having two open parking
spaces.
Alicia Green, 846 16th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and opposed
the granting of the variance for the following reasons: (a) rules and regulations
mandated by the City should be adhered to; (b) the applicant has other options available
to him which would require no variances; (c) having a garage so close to 16th Street,
which is very busy, would be a detriment to the neighborhood; (d) negative impacts on the
City's reputation if too many nonconforming uses are allowed; (e) negative impacts on
the City's reputation for not following its own general plan; (f) even though the atrium
idea is nice, the lot is not large enough for it; (g) the ex,i,s,ting garage is in very bad
condition and should be torn down as opposed to expanded.
Jeff Green, 846 16th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and opposed the
granting of the variance for the following reasons: (a) possible use as a bootleg; (b) the
setback rules should be complied with; (c) the City's rules and regulations should be
adhered to ; (d) alternative options are available to this applicant for designing an
attractive project; (e) the lot is simply not large enough to accommodate the atrium; (f)
the design is not appropriate for this property; (g) this item has been continued three
times already, and the plans have been exactly the same each time; (h) there are no
extraordinary circumstances applicable to this property.
Public Hearing closed at 9:01 P.M. by Chmn. Compton.
Comm. Peirce stated that the Commission must make its decision based on the plans and
the request before the Commission at this time. It is not up to the City to redesign a
project for an applicant. He noted that there are two problems involved in this matter:
(1) trying to maintain the 17-foot setback; and (2) having a legal project. He felt that,
after hearing all the testimony and looking at the plans, that the variance should be
denied because it is not necessary for the enhancement of this property.
Comm. Peirce noted that this project can be redesigned to include almost everything
that the applicant desires. He stated that he is somewhat opposed to the large enclosed
garage, and he questioned whether it is really necessary for this property. Based on
these reasons, he said he would find it difficult to approve this project as submitted and
to find grounds to grant the variance for the 17-foot setback requirement.
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MOTION by Comm. Ingell, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staff's
recommendation to deny the variance to encroach into the 17-foot parking setback for
property located at 905 15th Place.
Comm. Rue noted concern over the potential bootleg if this variance is approved. He
stated that he liked the design; however, the four-car garage could lead to problems. He
agreed that an alternative project can be designed which would not need a variance. He
concluded by stating that he does not think adequate findings can be made to grant this
variance.
Comm. Ingell noted concern over the bootleg potential. He could also find no reason not
to enforce the 17-foot setback requirement, noting that the lot is not that small. He
could find no reason to grant this variance.
Chmn. Compton said that he tends to be an advocate of people's rights. He felt that
there are some problems with the 17-foot setback which need to be modified. He felt
that an extraordinary circumstance in this case is that the property is surrounded on
three sides by public streets. He noted concern, however, that he could not make the
necessary finding in regard to this variance being necessary so that the applicant can
have property rights enjoyed by others in the same vicinity. He felt that the applicant
can redesign this project and comply with all the regulations, without needing a
variance. He noted, however, that he tends to oppose Plan B, even though it needs no
variance, because it will cause two on-street parking spaces to be lost.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, lngell, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Compton
None
None
None
Mr. Nuttall addressed the Commission and noted that if he proceeds with the alternative
Plan B, it is still necessary for him to obtain a variance for the front yard setback of 9.7
feet, since ten feet is required. He wanted to ensure that this would pose no problem for
his project.
Mr. Grove stated that he discussed Plan B with Mr. Nuttall. He continued by explaining
what was discussed in regard to the garage walls and door. He noted, however, that Plan
B does not eliminate the need for a variance on the open space.
Mr. Schubach stated that in the R-1 zone, a ten-foot setback is required; in this case the
setback is 9.7 feet. He noted staff does not feel there is a problem in approving the
variance for the 9.7 feet. He further noted that there is approximately 200 square feet
of open space in this proposal.
Chmn. Compton could see no problem with allowing the 9.7 foot front setback.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Ingell, to approve a variance for the 9.7
foot setback on the front yard, the reasons being: (a) there was a conflicting
measurement between th e old City survey and the new Ci ty survey; (b) this is an existing
building; (c) there is adequate open space provided for in the rest of the design.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, lngell, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Compton
None
None
None
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE13
Recess taken from 9:15 P.M. until 9:25 P.M.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP /119517 FOR A
FOUR-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT LOCATED AT 1111 VALLEY DRIVE
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 10, 1988. This project is located in the
R-3 zone with a general plan designation of high density residential. The lot size is 5,376
square feet, 67.2' by 80.0'.
The proposed units are approximately 1450 square feet in size. Each unit will contain
three bedrooms and two and a half baths. The design of the structure is two floors over
the garage.
The development will provide two enclosed parking spaces per unit, for a total of eight
spaces, and two guest parking spaces. Two guest spaces are required for the
development since no on-street parking space is being lost due to the curb cuts. No on
street parking is allowed on Valley Drive.
The units conform to the open space requirements. Building A will provide 308 square
feet of countable open space. Building B has 303 square feet of countable open space.
The units have additional open space area that is not counted since it does not meet the
minimum dimension of seven feet.
Private storage for these units is provided in an over-the-hood area in the garage. The
plans do not show an area for trash. A recommended condition of approval is to require
plans to show a trash area.
The plans conform to all other planning and zoning requirements and is consistent with
surrounding uses.
Staff recommended approval of the conditional use permit and tentative parcel map,
subject to the conditions specified in the resolution.
Public Hearing opened at 9:27 P.M.
Gary Lane, 723 Marina, Redondo Beach, designer of the project, addressed the
Commission. He stated that the plans conform to all requirements.
Chmn. Compton asked about the size of the garages.
Mr. Lane said that the garages are a little larger than required, because they provide a
storage area in the back. Also, the garage doors are somewhat wider than is required.
He continued by discussing the various measurements of the garages and doors.
Chmn. Compton suggested that in the future dimensions be included on the plans. He
noted that with the plans being so small, it is difficult to fully understand the project.
Public Hearing closed at 9:30 P.M.
Comm. Peirce commented that this project is quite tall for the area. He also noted
concern over the egress and ingress, noting that the property is on Valley Drive which is
a busy street. He noted that it is difficult to tell from the plans what kind of
obstructions there might be at this location. He also noted concern over the slope of the
land.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 14
Mr. Schubach stated that staff foresees no problem with ingress and egress at this
proposed project.
Comm. Peirce noted concern over the fac t t hat landscaping could obscure the view for
cars coming into or ex i ting the dri veway. He suggested that the resolution contain
wording specifying that there shall be no landscaping within three feet of the driveway.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staff's recommendation
to approve conditional use permit 88-18 and tentative parcel map #19517 for a four-unit
condominium project at 1111 Valley Drive, with the addition of a condition specifying
that plant material is to be kept back from the exit of the driveway in order to maintain
a safe approach and exit from the driveway. Such landscaping shall be reflected in the
landscaping plan.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, Ingell, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Compton
None
None
None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP /119513 FOR A
TWO-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT LOCATED AT 610 PALM DRIVE
Chmn. Compton stated that he would abstain from discussion on this matter as he is the
architect of record on the project.
Mr. Perea gave staff report dated February 9, 1988. The zoning for this project is R-3,
and the general plan designation is high density. The lot size .• is 30.00 square fee.t, 100' by
300.'
The proposed units are approximately 1,873 square feet in size. The units will contain
two bedrooms and three bathrooms. Both units will contain two floors and a mezzanine
over a partial subterranean garage.
The development will provide two parking spaces per unit plus two guest spaces per
unit. At the time the plans were originally submitted, the garage area did not meet the
17-foot dimension requirement. However, a column will be relocated in order to meet
the 17-foot requirement.
The applicant will also correct problems with the open space, and the project will then
conform to all open space requirements.
The plans for this project conform to all other planning and zoning requirements and is
consistent with surrounding areas.
Staff recommended that the Planning Commission approve a conditional use permit
subject to the conditions specified in the resolution.
Comm. Ingell asked whether the storage area meets all City requirements.
Mr. Perea replied in the affirmative.
Comm. DeBellis asked for an explanation as to the submittal of plans and the process
which follows.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 15
Mr. Perea explained the process.
Comm. Rue asked about the bay window projections into the front yard setback.
Mr. Perea explained that there will be no projecting bay windows. He said that they are
shown on the site plans, but not on the floor plan. The site plan will be modified to
conform with the f loor plan. He explained that the code currently allows for no bay
window projections.
Comm. Rue felt that bay windows could help to break up the front facade. He suggested
that the originally proposed bay windows could be modified to comply.
Mr. Perea stated that the Commission will be discussing architectural projections in the
near future. He stated that the bay windows could be addressed at that time. If the
Commission and City Council agree that bay window projections are acceptable, he
would have no objection to a minor modification in the plans to include them.
Comm. Peirce noted that the plans before the Commission are very small. He requested
that future plans include a scale. He suggested that there be a standard in the City
wherein architects are required to include a scale on the plans. He noted that the plans
are too difficult to interpret without a scale.
Public Hearing opened at 9:42 P .M. by Comm. Peirce.
Bill Gussey, 413 1/2 Richmond Street, El Segundo, representing the applicant, addressed
the Commission. He stated that there is no problem with moving the post so that there
is adequate turning radius in the garage. He stated that the mezzanine deck will be
moved in order to comply with the open space requirements .. ", .
Mr. Gussey discussed the storage area. He continued by stating that there will be a trash
area provided.
Public Hearing closed at 9:45 P.M. by Comm. Peirce.
Comm. DeBellis noted for the record that the Commission had received a letter of
opposition to this project from Mary Keeler, homeowner at 610 Manhattan Avenue,
Hermosa Beach.
MOTION by Comm, Ingell, seconded by Comm. Rue, to approve staff's recommendation
to approve a conditional use permit and vesting tentative parcel map /119513 for a two
unit condominium project located at 610 Palm Drive.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, Ingell, Peirce, Rue
None
Chmn. Compton
None
Comm. Rue commented on the plans being presented by applicants. He noted that they
are very plain, very small, and do not show landscaping or elevations. He said that it is
very difficult to study a project with these inadequate plans. He suggested that this
issue be discussed during Commissioner Items.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE16
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Comm. Ingell, to suspend the agenda, in order
to take up Item No. 12 before Item No. 11 because of the large number of people in the
audience waiting to discuss Item No. 12. There being no objections to the motion; so
ordered.
APPEAL OF LOT MERGER DETERMINATION FOR LOT MERGER GROUPS L.M. 87-1
AND 87-2
Mr. Schubach gave staff report dated February 9, 1988. The Planning Department
determined that the lots included in L.M. 87-1 and L.M. 87-2 are subject to merger
pursuant to Hermosa Beach Municipal Code Sections 29.5-19 through 29.5-28 and State
Government Code Section 66451.11-66451.21.
Staff found those lots to be subject to merger since less than 80% of the block has been
split, and the contiguous parcels are held by the same owner.
Staff consulted the most recent tax assessor roles to determine the owners of the
property. Registered letters were then sent to each of the property owners in December
of 1987. In this particular area, four requests for a hearing appeal have been received.
46 lots have been merged uncontested in this particular area.
Mr. Perea noted that of approximately 180 lots which have already been merged, about
five percent of the owners requested a hearing.
Mr. Schubach stated that staff finds no reason not to merge these lots, stating that they
meet all criteria for lot mergers such as being substandard in size; having dwellings
straddling the lot line; and being on a block where less thani &.0,.;{ilercent of the lots have
already been split. Staff is therefore recommending that these lots be merged.
Mr. Schubach suggested that the Commission take each of the four lots in question
separately.
Comm. Peirce asked what would be required of the Commission in order to grant the lot
merger appeals.
Mr. Schubach discussed the findings which would be necessary in order for the
Commission to grant an appeal to the lot merger. He continued by reading various
requirements which are necessary to grant the appeal.
Mr. Lough stated that this process differs from a variance request; in that it is not
necessary for the Commission to make findings as required by State law. He continued
by explaining that the Commission may grant an appeal; however, it is best that some
criteria are used in such a granting. He noted, too, that a public hearing is not required
by State law; a hearing is held so that applicants do not need to pay for the noticing.
Hearing opened at 10:05 by Chmn. Compton.
1220 7th Street --Owners: Paul and Mary Hulka. Lots 54 and 55, Block 139, Redondo
Villa Tract, 4160029023.
This parcel is comprised of two 25' x 100' foot lots. Aerials indicate that the main
structure straddles the property line. Building records indicate that these parcels
contain a nonconforming duplex.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 17
Jack Wood, 200 Pier Avenue, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and opposed the
proposed lot mergers. He discussed the lot ordinance of 1957 and stated that it is within
the purview of the Comm ission to grant the requests of these people to not have their
lots merged. He stated that th ere is no reason not to grant t he requests of these four
owners who do not wan t their lots merged. He stated that to merge the lots would
create an economic hardship on these people. He asked the Commission to grant the
appeals; stating that the fact that this has been appealed is reason enough to leave them
alone.
Mr. Schubach noted that a registered letter was sent to Mr. Paul Hulka informing him of
the date, time, and place for this hearing. The Planning Department received a letter of
appeal; however, Mr. Hulka was not present at the hearing.
Wilma Burt, 1152 Prospect Avenue, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission on behalf
of the Hulkas. She stated that the Hulkas do not live in town and the house in question is
a rental. She stated that they have not appeared either because they were ill or because
they were intimidated by the City's actions.
Ms. Burt stated that many people did not respond either in writing or by coming forward
at the hearing because they are intimidated and feel that they would have to pay fees in
order to request an appeal to the lot mergers.
1154 8th Street --Owners: Patrick and Barbara Vignery. Lots 57 and 58, Block 140,
Redondo Villa Tract, 4160032014.
This parcel is comprised of two 25' by 100' foot lots. Aerials indicate that the main
structure straddles the property line. Building records indicate these parcels contain a
nonconforming duplex. Building records also indicate that 1.M~8th St1;.eet.was o dginally
merged under the now repealed combined lot ordinance.
Mr. Wood stated that he was present representing Mr. and Mrs. Vignery. He stated that
this property differs from the others because there is a duplex on the property. He
continued by discussing the intent of the lot merger ordinance. He stated that the
Vignerys have two lots and two dwellings and are exercising their property rights to the
fullest.
Mr. Wood stressed that this owner does not even belong here protesting this lot merger.
He noted that the City is dense now, and density will not be lowered by merging lots. He
stated that a merger would impose a huge economic hardship on this owner.
Mr. Wood stated that . .if the lots -are merged, the . duplex will then become
nonconforming. He stated that this homeowner should be exempt from this requirement,
asserting that Mr. Vignery is here through no fault of his own.
Patrick Vignery, 547 South Helberta, Redondo Beach, owner of 1154 8th Street, Hermosa
Beach, addressed the Commission and opposed the lot merger based on the following
reasons: (a) this particular case differs in that there is a duplex on the property; (b) if
the lots are merged, there will be a financial loss on his investment; (c) he wants his
property to remain as it is, since he would like to will this property to his children.
Mr. Schubach stated that this property is located in the R-1 zone; and the duplex is a
legal nonconforming use. He said that the two parcels are combined as one lot, thereby
making it a nonconforming use. He stated that the duplex was built many years ago, and
the Building Department does not elaborate on what the structure actually was
constructed as.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE18
Mr. Vignery stated that this property has had two families living there ever since he has
owned it. If the lots are merged and the property is developed, the end result would still
be two families living there; therefore, the density would not be lowered by requiring the
lots to be merged.
Chmn. Compton explained to Mr. Vignery that if the lots were merged and the property
is redeveloped, there could only be one unit on the site since it would then be only one
parcel.
Mr. Schubach continued by explaining that technically this duplex was built on one
parcel.
Mr. Wood vehemently disagreed with Mr. Schubach's explanation, stating that that
assertion cannot be proved, nor can any section of the code be found to support this
assumption.
Chmn. Compton noted that the duplex was built at a time when there were no accurate
building records delineating what was and was not allowed.
Mr. Schubach stated that this property is listed in the records as a duplex under the
combined lot ordinance because it was a legal nonconforming use. It is stated that way
in the building records, which can be checked by anyone desiring to do so. He noted that
it is up to the Commission to determine whether or not to require this lot to be merged.
1152 7th Street --Owner: Wilma Burt. Lots 61 and 62, Block 139, Redondo Villa Tract,
4160030015.
This parcel is comprised of two 25' by l 00' lots. Aerials indi~rJhat the main structure
straddles the property line. Building records indicate this structure is a single family
dwelling.
Ms. Burt, 1152 7th Street, Hermosa Beach, homeowner, opposed the proposed lot merger
based on the following reasons: (a) she provided plans depicting her property, stating
that at one time it was her intention to build an apartment above the garage; the garage
was built to have that unit, and even though a_n apartment has not been built, it may be in
the future; (b) requiring the lots to be merged would create an economic hardship and
loss to this property owner; (c) the schools were not required to have 4,000 square foot
minimum lots.
Ms. Burt read a statement to the Commission: "I did not send any of the material to you,
as I am not unaware of the prevailing bias and the unequitable land decisions that the
Planning Commission and the present council have been making. I object to the changes
of my lots. This is not a less density issue that you are deciding. It is an act against the
long-term owners and basically retired citizens who held this town together when the
avid developers and the redevelopers wanted it. Large lots with homes on them
encourage large families to try to buy them and move in."
Ms. Burt continued by discussing what the Planning Commission has done in the last ten
or fifteen years, or since the low density people came to town, such as the start of
PUDS, the condos, and the lowering of densities for R-2 and R-2B zones. She felt that
the proposed combining of lots smacks of spot zoning.
Ms. Burt noted that when she purchased her house in 1956, the lot size of 25' by 100' was
legal; there was not a 4,000 square foot minimum lot size requirement. She continued by
stating that her 33 year old house is constructed better than anything being built today.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE19
Ms. Burt stated that she wants to develop her property to its original plans, explaining
that she would like to add a unit over the garage. She said that she has a right to live in
her house without being told what to do.
Ms. Burt stated that no good has come to the City since the inception of the requirement
that lots must be 4000 square feet. She stated that it is time for the City to take action
now based on what is happening today; rather than basing every decision on what will
happen in 50 years. She asked that the older people can keep their property the same as
it is now.
1137 7th Street --Owner: Helen Finley. Lot 13 and NE 2' x 34' Lot 14, Block 140,
Redondo Beach Tract, 4160032024.
This parcel is comprised of one 25' by 100' lot and a portion of an adjacent lot measuring
2' by 34.' The main structure straddles the property line. Building records indicate this
structure to be a single family dwelling.
Mary Mandel, daughter of owner Helen Finley, addressed the Commission and opposed
the proposed lot merger. This property has been in the family for 65 years. She did not
favor the taking of property rights of the older citizens in town. She stressed the
importance of protecting the rights of senior citizens.
Mr. Perea stated that what is proposed to be merged in this case is a small strip 2' by 34'
which is adjacent to Ms. Finley's 25' by 100' lot.
Chmn. Compton asked whether these homeowners opposed the proposed lot merger.
Ms. Mandel stated that she opposed all of the lot mergers on g~f.leralp.r-inciple.
Mr. Wood again addressed the Commission and stressed the fact that if these lots are
combined, property rights will be taken away from these homeowners. He stated that
there is nothing in the code requiring them to be combined.
Violet Isgreen, 726 Prospect Avenue, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and
stated that she agreed with the comments made by others who oppose the proposed lot
mergers.
Mr. Seemus, 1214 10th Street, Hermosa Beach, addressed the Commission and stated that
many of the people who received notices were afraid to appear before the Commission
because they were intimidated and thought they would have to pay for something to be
done. He said that the City, instead of trying to help citizens, causes them problems.
He stated that it is important to protect the rights of senior citizens.
Comm. Peirce asked what the City has done to intimidate citizens.
Mr. Seemus stated that the letters imply that the property owner must pay for noticing
in their areas.
Comm. Peirce stated that there is no such requirement for any homeowner to pay such
fees.
Mr. Seemus stated that no one was informed by the City that they didn't have to pay. He
said that he has gone to City offices, and no one informed him of this fact.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 20
Ch mn. Compton noted concern over the wording contained in the letters sent out to
citizen s. He stressed that notic ing is no t required for pr o pose d lo t me r gers. He was
deeply c oncerned that some citi zens were afraid to come before the Com mission on this
very important issue. He suggested that a new letter be sent out informing people that
no survey is required, and noticing will not cost them anything. He urged interested
people to call the Planning Department for clarification on this issue.
Mr. Wood suggested that people be sent forms instead of letters; if they want their lots
merged, they can simply sign the form and return it. Those not returning the form can
then be assumed to oppose the merger for whatever reason. He said that registered mail
can be quite intimidating.
Hearing closed by Chmn. Compton.
Comm. Rue stated that these people do not want their lots merged; merger will create
an economic hardship; it is a taking somewhat of property rights; and it is not required
that the lots be merged.
MOTION by Comm. Rue, seconded by Chmn. Compton to not merge the following
parcels: 1220 7th Street, Lot 54 and 55, Block 139; 1152 7th Street, Lot 61 and 62, Block
139; and 1154 8th Street, Lot 57 and 58, Block 140.
Comm. Peirce spoke against the motion, stating that there are several different types of
property in this case. He stated that 1152 7th Street has a structure clearly across the
property line, and the zoning is R-1. There is only one family dwelling there with no
assertion of a duplex. In the case of duplexes, he felt that it makes no difference
whether the property is R-1 or R-2, noting that the intent of the ordinance was to merge
those types of lots. Therefore, he stated that he would vo1B,it/O:,~mei.ge all of these lots.
He said that it was not demonstrated to him that these mergers would create a financial
hardship. He stated that the main issue for the Commission is to base their decisions on
planning matters and what is in the best interests of the City for the future.
Chmn. Compton favored the motion, stating that the mer gers wo uld be a potential taking
of property values and what is already a potential unit. He stated that he would not be in
favor of the merger until a new ordinance is placed on the books.
Comm. DeBellis stated that he would favor the motion.
Comm. lngell stated that he would support the motion, even though he is a proponent of
lower density; however, he does not favor the taking of property rights.
Comm. Peirce stressed that this issue should be addressed as to whether it is good
planning or bad planning, not whether or not there is an economic hardship imposed.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, Ingell, Rue, Chmn. Compton
Comm. Peirce
None
None
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Comm. Peirce, that 1137 7th Street, Lot 13
and NE 2' by 34' of Block 140 be merged.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, Ingell, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Compton
None
None
None
PAGE 21
MOTION by Chmn. Compton, seconded by Comm. DeBellis for purposes of discussion, to
direct staff that a new letter shall be sent to all persons who have already been notified
for lot merger; this new letter shall inform them that it is not necessary for them to pay
any fees. The letter shall also state that anyone can call the Planning Department for
further help and clarification.
Mr. Lough noted that if this motion will result in sign ific ant staff time and expenditures,
it probably has not been budgeted; the Planning Co mmi ss ion is not authorized staff to
overrun its budget.
Comm. DeBellis suggested that this is a more appropriate action for the City Council to
take, since they are the body who set the parameters for this issue and the guidelines. If
there is concern, the Planning Commission should notify the Council of their concerns;
rather than the Commission directing staff to take action on the matter.
MOTION WITJ-IDRA WN by Chmn. Compton.
MOTION by Chmn. Compton, seconded by Comm. Rue, to direct staff to prepare a letter
to be submitted to the City Council informing them of the concerns of the Planning
Commission
Comm. DeBellis suggested that staff prepare a report for t he Co unci l delin ea t ing the
concerns expressed by the Commission. The Council can t l:lern h>a "askea ,.t-0 .. a ct o,r;i;t:bose
matters by whatever method they feel appropriate.
There being no objections to the motion; so ordered.
TEXT AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE
DECLARATION REGARDING PROJECTIONS INTO REQUIRED YARD AREAS
Chmn. Compton suggested that this item be continued to the next meeting, noting the
importance of the matter, and the lateness of the hour.
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Chmn. Compton, to continue this item to the
Planning Commission meeting of March 1, 1988. No objections; so ordered.
LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT TO 1240, 1242, AND 1244 19TH STREET AND A PORTION OF
THE NORTHERLY 25 FEET OF LOT l, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE HERMOSA VIEW
SCHOOL SITE
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve staff's
recommendation.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. DeBellis, lngell, Peirce, Rue, Chmn. Compton
None
None
None
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 22
STAFF ITEMS
The Commissioners received the following:
• Letters sent out regarding conditional use permit enforcement
• City Council Minutes of January 26, 1988
COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Comm. Rue noted concern over the materials being presented in regard to the
condominium approval requests. He felt that the City should require better, more
concise materials. He specifically would like to see landscaping plans and conceptual
drawings. He noted that he wants to ensure that buildings are built according to the
c onc e pt ual drawings and landscape plans. He preferred that the Building Department
invest igate to ensure that this is what is happening and that projects are being done in
accordance with what was submitted to the Planning Commission.
Chmn. Compton felt that the City should prepare a list of minimum requirements to be
available to developers.
Mr. Schubach stated that he would return with further information on minimum
requirements.
MOTION by Comm. DeBellis, seconded by Comm. Rue, to adjourn at 11:25 P.M. No
objections; so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the
action taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled
meeting of February 16, 1988.
Date