HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 08.27.84MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON
AUGUST 27_.; 1984, IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order by Chmn. Izant at 7:30 P.M.
Pledge of Allegiance led by Chmn. Izant.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Comrns. Peirce, Sheldon, Schulte, Compton, and
Chmn. Izant.
ABSENT: Comms. Newton, and Shapiro.
ALSO PRESENT: Pamela Sapetto, Planning Director;
Assistant Planning Director.
Kim Reardon-Crites,
(Comm. Compton arrived at 8:09 P.M.)
CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL
Ms. Sapetto stated that she would give the staff report and then
refer to Mr. Ayers to further describe some of the components
involved in this issue.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the staff recommends the following:
1. To certify the Final EIR and adopt Statement of Overriding
Considerations.
2. To rezone a portion of South School conditioned upon the
failure of the Mello-Roos assessment district ballot measure:
a. To review the City Council directive to rezone .87
acres of South School which fronts Monterey Boulevard
to R-3, high density.
b. To consider the designation of PD R-2, medium density
on a larger portion of the property in order to
disperse the density.
c. To recommend PD R-2/medium density designations for
South School from Montery Boulevard to Cypress if the
Letter of Credit issue is committed to by the City Council.
Ms. Sapetto stated that earlier this year the City Council and
Planning Commission denied the School Board's request for rezoning.
The City Council and School Board have since met to discuss a
solution to this problem. Tonight's proposal is a result of those
discussions. The City Council and the School Board have agreed to
form a Joint Powers Association, or a non-profit agency for two
purposes:
1. To preserve as much of the school property as open space as
possible.
2. To improve and expand Valley School so that it may serve as
the single school site.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the School Board and the City Council adopted
the following strategy at their joint workshop meeting of June 28
and July 5, 1984:
1. The City Council would place on the ballot an assessment
district pursuant to Mello-Roos legislation. This assessment
district would creat the funding necessary to purchase the
entire railroad right-of-way recently abandoned by Santa Fe
Railroad and all of South School.
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2. The City Council would place on the ballot an exception to the
anti-oil-drilling ordinance. This exception would allow oil
drilling at the City Yard only. The revenue from this would
be used exclusively for the acquisition, maintenance, and
operation of open space within the City.
3. The City Council would place on the ballot a measure to allow
the School District to drill for oil at South School if
Mello-Roos fails. This revenue would be used for education.
4 . The City would participate in a Joint Powers Association or
non-profit agency to acquire South School and Seaview Parkette
for open space purposes at $3.5 million.
5. The City would rezone .87 of South School to R-3 (that portion
which fronts Monterey Boulevard) conditional upon the failure
of Mello-Roos.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the Planning Commission must review the
rezoning of portions of South School. They may consider two
alternatives. Alternative No. l would rezone that portion of
property which fronts Monterey Boulevard to R-3, which is what the
staff refers to as the built-up portion.
Ms . Sape t t o sta t ed t hat a lt ern a t i ve No. 2 would disperse development
t o a g r ea t e r de gr ee , g u aran t ees the same value of land, and allows the
P la nn i ng Commis s ion and t he Ci t y Co uncil to review the development
o f the pr oj ect . The sta f f feels th at Alternative No. 2 is the better
of the first two alternatives.
Ms . Sape tto s tat ed tha t Al terna tiv e No. 3 addresses the problem that
if t he City Co un cil is t o liv e u p to its agreement with the School
Bo ard , a Le tt er o f Cr ed i t mus t be e xtended by the Joint Powers
Ag r eement o r non -pro f it a gen c y . Th e only collateral that can be
p l edged is a r e zo ne d So u t h Sc h o o l prope rt y t ha t is wo rth t h e va l ue
of t he Le tt e r of Credit , wh ic h is $4 mi ll i o n . She s t a t e d th a t t he
City may decide to use other resou r c es to p l edge as coll a t er al.
But in discussing this with Mr. Ay e rs, h e fel t t hat tha t wo u ld
probably be unacceptable to the ba nk th at is ex t ending the Letter of
Credit.
Ms. Sapetto stated the Planning Comm ission needs to review these
alternatives and make a recommenda ti on to the City Council.
Ms. Sapetto then introduced Mr. Ay er s to further discuss the
Letter of Credit.
Chmn. Izant expressed the feeling that Mr. Ayers' letter was quite
clear, and he didn't feel an e x planation was necessary. He stated
that the Commission would be making a land use planning decision
and not a financial decision. He felt that the City Council had
already made up its mind in terms of financing.
Mr. Ayers stated that there was a meeting with the bank, School
District, the City, the Bond Council, and the underwriters,
Merrill Lynch. He stated that during the last three years, the
City has fallen short $1 million in revenue each year as opposed
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to e x penditures. This means that the City is a terrible credit risk.
He stated that because of these financial problems,the bank insists
that the rezoning be done sufficient to produce a value of $5.1 million.
They will then loan a Letter of Credit for 75 percent of that amount.
Comm. Peirce did not feel that these financial issues were a planning
problem. He felt that the proper issue for the Planning Commission
is, what is the proper planning for South School.
Chmn. Izant asked Mr. Ayers if this land is the only land that could
be used as collateral.
Mr. Ayers replied in the affirmative. Mr. Ayers stated that he felt
he should give the Commission all the information he had in order to give
the Commission a broader perspective, including the financial
information.
Comm. Sheldon stated that he wanted to hear Mr. Ayers information.
He stated he had many questions to ask Mr. Ayers.
Comm. Schulte concurred with Mr. Sheldon.
Comm. Sheldon asked Mr. Ayers how they could accomplish the goal
of preserving open space while allowing zoning on School property
to equal the sum of $5.1 million.
Mr. Ayers stated that the property as it is currently zoned is
valued at somewhat less than $1 million. The City wished to preserve
open space land by putting an issue on the November 6 ballot to
provide the money. Because of State law, the School Board needed
to proceed with their construction prior to that election. In order
to achieve both goals, the City Council agreed that it would provide
$3.5 million of financing to the School District.
Mr. Ayers stated that if the November 6 bond issue passes, the City
may well, out of the proceeds of that -:l:1.iond issue, have enough to be
able to preserve all of South _School as open space if it so chooses.
If the Mello-Roos bond issue fails, then in order to redeem the debt
which the City, through the non-profit corporation, would have incurred,
then the City would have to sell enough of the South School site
to pay off the indebtedness.
Mr. Ayers stated that that was the Pla nn ing Commission's purpose
tonight --to rezone South School in su c h a way as to ob tain enough
revenue to pay off the indebtedness. He sa id that to re zone to
create $5 .2 million worth of value does n I t n e cessarily me an that that
has to be sold if Mello-Roos fails. The Cit y would on l y need to
sell enough to r e deem about $4 million of the bond. If Mello-Roos
passes, the land, perhaps, could all be open space. If Mello-Roos
fails, perhaps a third or a half of it could be open space.
Comm. Sheldon stated that the letter by Mr. Ayers of August 22, 1984,
conflicted with the Planning Commissions letter dated August 24, 1984,
regarding what portion of South School is in issue. Mr. Ayer~ letter
stated, "The property west of the east line of Cypress Avenue extended
is excluded."
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After some discussion, the Commissioners decided that Mr. Ayers'
letter should read, "East of the east line of Cypress."
Comm. Sheldon reasked his question of how the requirement to get
$5.l million in value by rezoning South School conforms to goal
No. 2, which is to retain as much open space at South School as
possible.
Mr. Ayers responded that in order to purchase the land, the City
needs to create value. The City cannot legally pay $3.5 million for
$1 million worth of land, which is what the land is worth as now
zoned. Merrill Lynch, in order to provide the money to the City
through the non-profit corporation, needs a guarantee of $5.1 million.
That is the value of the entire parcel. That creates the value.
If Mello-Roos fails, there is only a need to sell approximately
$4 million worth.
Comm. Sheldon asked if the City has a more recent appraisal than the
one from 1982 at $25 a foot for this land.
Mr. Ayers responded that the bank does, but that the City doesn't
have these details.
Comm. Sheldon asked if that was $25 a foot based on R-3.
Mr. Ayers answered in the affirmative.
Comm. Sheldon stated that if the value of land had gone up from
$25 a square foot to perhaps $40 a square foot, the amount of
R-3 land needed to be built on to achieve the financial goals
would be significantly less.
Comm. Sheldon did not feel it was proper to try to translate dollars
needed into zoning with an inadequate appraisal of the dollar value
of the land.
Mr. Ayers stated that there must be an agreement between the City and
the non-profit corporation governing what disposition is made of the
property. If Mello-Roos passes, the non-profit corporation must sell
the property to the City as the proceeds of the Mello-Roos bond issue.
If Mello-Roos fails, then the non-profit corporation may sell only
enough property to redeem the note issue.
Comm. Sheldon said that he did not know how they could rezor..e
property to equal $5.l million and then restrict the sale of that
property to preclude a developer from buying all the property that
was just rezoned to equal $5.1 million.
Mr. Ayers stated that the ownership of this
shortly after the rezoning takes effect, to
District controlled non-profit corporation.
between the City and non-profit corporation
in it.
property will transfer,
the City and School
The legal agreement
will have that restriction
Comm. Sheldon asked whether the Commission might be opening itself
up to lawsuits if they rezone all the school property to R-3 and
then try to preclude developers from buying it.
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CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL (Cont.)
page 5
Mr. Ayers stated that the City, on behalf of the non-profit
corporation, would bid on three or four different parcels or lines
and determine the line that would create enough value. Then
immediately upon sale or agreement, the City would act to rezone
the rest of the land back to open space.
Chmn. Izant asked Ms. Sapetto what would happen if the Planning
Commission did not forward a recommendation to the City Council at
this meeting.
Mr. Ayers responded that that would kill the deal. He stated the
City Council has scheduled a special meeting on September 4 to
act on the Planning Commission's recommendation.
Comm. Compton asked why this issue was not brought to the Commission
sooner.
Mr. Ayers replied that a joint City Council-School board meeting was
held on June 28 in which they agreed to immediately act upon a
rezoning. The City Council did pass a resolution of intent and
it has taken this long to get it to the Planning Commission.
Comm. Sheldon asked Mr. Ayers if he was correct in stating that if
the Commission elected for what they believed to be sound reasons
hot to act on this tonight, that that doesn't just defer the deal,
it kills it.
Mr. Ayers answered in the affirmative. He stated that it was his
understanding that if the School Board did not receive the money
prior to October 15, their plans will be in jeopardy an~ it will
cost them several hundreds of thousands of dollars additionally.
He also stated that the City's credit is not good enough to go back
out and try again.
Comm. Sheldon asked that if the Commission rezoned the property so
that the value is less than $5.1 million, has the City committed to
kick in the rest.
Mr. Ayers stated that the City doesn't have the money to kick in.
Comm. Sheldon stated that as he understands Mr. Ayers' letter, as
the City is a co-guarantor, in the event Mello-Roos fails and the
land does not achieve enough money to pay off the non-profit corporation,
the City has committed to the difference.
Mr. Ayers stated that that was correct.
Comrn. Sheldon asked if it was conceivable that the City would have to
build out all zoning passed to achieve $5.1 million in order or raise
$3.5 million.
Mr. Ayers responded that it's conceivable, but that they like to
think that the value of the property is such that a major part of
it can be retained for open space. He stated that the bank appraisal
is $5.1 million, but that that is probably about 25 percent low.
Comm. Compton asked if it was correct that the Commission needs to
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adopt Alternative 3 for the deal to go through and that the others
done' work at all.
Mr. Ayers. replied in the affirmative.
Chmn. Izant asked what action the City Council could take if the
Planning Commission recommended Alternative 1 or Alternative 2.
Ms. Sapetto replied that as long as the Planning Commission
considered the Alternatives, if the Commission turned it down, then
the City Council could take the action that they felt it was necessary
to take.
Comm. Schulte asked which part of the property in Alternative 3
equaled the value of $5.1 million.
Mr. Ayers replied that the bank appraisal encompassed all of the
property, but that in talking with Pam, he was confident that
Alternative 3 would create what the bank needs.
Comm. Schulte asked why the bank was privy to an appraisal that the
Commission was not privy to.
Ms. Sapetto replied that it was the bank's appraisal.
Comm. Schulte summarized by saying that in order for the deal to
go t.hrough, the Commission must zone the land in some manner that
is consistent with the bank's appraisal which the bank has which
the Commissioners have not seen.
Mr .. Ayers answered yes.
Comm. Schulte felt that the bank was treating the Commission like
an adversary.
Mr. Ayers responded that the bank has worked with the City very
nicely.
The public hearing was opened at 8:30 P.M.
Dave Jones, 334 Culper Court, stated that the people are voting
in November on an open space initiative to rezone open space at
all the school properties. And now it looks like the School Board
and the City Council are putting pressure on the Planning Commission
to beat the initiative. He asked what would happen if the open space
initiative passes after the city has already rushed this issue through.
Ms. Sapetto replied that that would pose a series of legal questions.
She stated the City wishes to avoid a legal battle with the School
but also wishes to preserve this property as open space, and that is
why they have adopted this strategy. If Mello-Roos passes, then the
City can afford to buy and preserve the school property as open space.
If the initiative passes, then the question becomes, "Does the people's
initiative have the authority to deprive property values of the St a t e of
wind up in court.
California?ll
She felt that the initiative would
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CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL (Cont.)
page 7
Mr. Ayers stated that the South School was bought with State money.
The School District attorney said the probability of any school
initiative that would deprive the School District of its value has
a very remote chance of being upheld because it is actually owned by
the State.
Comm. Sheldon asked Ms. Sapetto if it was correct that if the rezoning
happens before the initiativeT then what we have is a zoning in
effect for which, if the initiative passes, is attempting to escheat
or inversely condemn residentially zoned property which would not
be lega~ or at least be very litigious.
Ms. Sapetto replied that might be a possible argument.
Mr. Jones thought it would be less sticky if the initiative went
through first and then the site was sold.
Chmn. Izant responded that it was staff's recommendation that none
of this happen until the failure of Mello-Roos.
Mr. Jones felt that the City should wait until after the election
to do anything.
Ms. Sapetto responded that the problem with that is that the School
District owns the property and has the power to sell the property at
any time subject to certain conditions and regulations. The City
Council wants to purchase the property now so the property can be
protected for them to buy if Mello-Roos passes.
Mr. Jones felt that the original Environmental Impact Report should
be sent back to whoever compiled it and have just the South School
scenario put forth. He felt the decision should be held off until
a single South School EIR is presented to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Jones stated that he carried around an open space initiative and
got over 200 signatures. Out of the 200 people, only five turned
him down, which indicates that what the people want is open space.
If the City does have to rezone, Mr. Jones recommended that it be
R-2 along Monterey and the rest preserved as open space. If that
is not possible, then R-3 along Monterey and the rest open space.
Harold Spear, 50 10th Street, stated that he was at the two joint
meetings. He felt the memo was wrong to call them workshops. To
his knowledge they were formal meetings of the City Council and they
were joint meetings. Mr. Spears stated that he at no time heard
that under the City Council-School District June 28 agreement did the
City agree to negotiate rezoning of the school property to a use
which would establish a value of around $4.8 million, a statement
which is reflected in Mr. Ayers' memo on page 2.
Mr. Spear stated that the only thing he heard was that if Mello-Roos
failed, there would be a rezoning essentially as Alternative 1 reads,
i.e., R-3 along Monterey. He remembers the joint powers agreement
but not that the City was committing itself as to how it was going
to do the rezoning to back that up. He stated if R-3 zoning were
along Monterey, two things would be true. One is that the open
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CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL (Cont.)
page 8
~-space initiative would nbt really be violated because that was
applying to the other four acres of South School. He felt that what
happened that night was not in direct collision with the open space
ag~eement. He felt that Alternatives 2 and 3 were in direct collision
with the open space agreement.
Mr. Spear feels that the Planning Commission, City Council, and the
School Board should all have a joint meeting to work out what would
be reasonable planning --reasonable for the City and reasonable
for the School. He stated he was very bothered tonight by the fact
that there was no City Council member attending the Planning Commission
meeting. He was also concerned about the data being fed back from the
June 28 meeting.
Wilma Burt, 1152 7th Street, stated that she was also at these meetings
and that at all times she heard that $3.5 million was needed to redo
Valley. Mrs. Burt pointed out that Prospect Heights was sold for
approximately $1 million; the City made the final payment on Pier
Avenue_; they bought the two lots east of 11th street; and bought
Prospect Heights' play grounds, which is over $369,000. With these
transactions, Mrs. Burt figured that the City needs $2,969,000, not
$5.1 million.
Mrs. Burt stated that the School Board passed the resolution for
a joint powers agreement but that the City Council did not. The
City Council passed an agreement that they would work with the
school to help them get the money they needed and to zone the
school for its best use.
Mrs. Burt stated that the State Code says that any school that is
abandoned must sell one-third of that land to the City at less than
fair market value. She stated that that has not been discussed at
this meeting.
Mrs. Burt also pointed out that the right-of-way of Cypress and Loma
Streets were given to the School free. She felt that the City has
enough land to put up as collateral for the loan. She did not think
Alternative 3 was necessary. She stated that the City Council very
strongly voted down R-3 with 99 units. She did not think they would
go along with R-3 with 81 units.
Comm. Sheldon asked if the City Council voted for the non-profit
corporation.
Ms. Sapetto replied that if they looked on page 2, they could find
exactly what the actions were that the City Council took.
Mrs. Burt stated that yesterday (August 26) two Councilmen told her
that they had not voted for it and would not vote for it.
Comm. Compton asked Mrs. Burt if she felt either scheme 1 or 2 was
acceptable.
Mrs. Burt replied that the only one she felt might be acceptable was
scheme 1, which is for 34 units. She also wished to point out that
at South School, the street right-of-way goes right up to the foundation
of the school.
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CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL (Cont.)
page 9
Comm. Sheldon asked if the City Council voted unanimously for the
joint powers non-profit corporation.
Ms. Sapetto answered in the affirmative.
Comm. Peirce asked Mrs. Burt what percentage of South School she
felt should be retained for open space.
Mr. Burt replied that according to State law, one-third should be
retained. She indicated that she would like to have more than
one-third, but she wasn't sure if they could go over State law.
But she did feel that because Cypress and Loma Streets were vacated
for the School's benefit, she saw no reason why the City should
have to pay for that property.
Betty Schweisthal, Rolling Hills Estates, stated that she is the
director and owner of St. Clare's Preschool in Hermosa Beach.
She stated that approximately six weeks ago she opened up an infant
center. The center is completely filled and she gets from five to
ten calls a day from mothers with infants, many of them from Hermosa
Beach, crying for a place to leave their child.
Ms. Schweisthal stated that 95 percent of her volunteer help comes
from senior citizens. She stated that next year when the school
buildings are available she wishes to open a day-care center for
senior citizens where they would be around children. Ms. Schweisthal
recommended that the City leave the schools as they are because
we are in the midst of a baby boom.
Mr. Ayers wished to clarify that the June 28 agreement was to,
one, rezone a lessor part than is being considered now; two,
to purchase for $3.5 million South School and Seaview Parkeete;
and, three, to underwrite the school's interim need for construction
money due to a State law.
Mr. Ayers stated that Alternative 3 is the only way to accomplish
the School Board's goal of $3.5 million and the City's goal of
retaining school property for open space if Mello-Roos passes, or
part of the school property as open space if Mello-Roos doesn't pass.
He stated that the Council did not know at that time that in order
to accomplish their goals, more property needed to be rezoned.
In summary, Mr. Ayers felt that the only way to retain that property
as open space is to pass Mello-Roos and to rezone the property so
that it can be purchased in total now.
The public hearing was closed at 9:00 P.M.
Comm. Sheldon stated that he was astounded that there was not one
City Councilman or one School Board member attending this Planning
Commission meeting. He felt many facts could have been cleared up
had members of the City Council and School Board been present.
He stated he could think of at least three significant, germane
issues that are yet unsolved that, if it weren't for Mr. Ayers'
statement that delaying the issue would kill the deal, he would
recommend that the Planning Commission do nothing at this time.
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CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL (Cont.)
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Comm. Sheldon stated that to make a decision without a valid, updated
appraisal of at least July or August, 1984, of the land value is
criminal. He concurred with Mrs. Burt's point that the School District
has money in the bank. He stated that he did not know that the
School District needs $3.5 million. He did not know why they
couldn't guarantee the deal with other school property.
Comm. Sheldon stated that it has always been his recommendation to
zone the built-up portion of South School as R-3 and leave the rest
as open space.
Motion by Comm. Sheldon, seconded by Comm . Schulte, to recomm end
that the South School property be zoned R -3, high density, to the
base of the hill at South School, and t h a t the balance of t he entire
portion of that school property be retained as open space.
Comm. Compton asked if that would include the area between Monterey
and Loma where it is now subdivided into lots.
Comm. Sheldon replied that his motion would include all School
District owned land to the base of the hill.
Comm. Sheldon asked Ms. Sapetto if there was a zoning ordinance
which the Planning Commission has the power to implement that would
preclude building of any kind.
Ms. Sapetto replied that there was no such zoning ordinance. But
she stated that that didn't preclude the City from creating an
open space zone that says open space with no structures. The present
open space zoning allows building of up to 10 percent on property.
Comm. Sheldon asked if it was appropriate at this time to define in
his motion the zoning of the easterly portion of the entity he has
described as a piece of land that will not be built upon.
Comm. Peirce responded that he didn't think the City code allowed
that and that the City Code would have to be changed first.
Ms. Sapetto stated that the Commission would have to draw up a
s~parate resolution to adopt an ordinance to amend the open space
ordinance or to add an additional section to the open space ordinance.
Comm. Sheldon pointed out that his motion called for R-3 zoning
because he feels that the ma x imum amount of dollars derived from the
least amount of building is what is appropriate.
Comm. Schulte stated that it was clear to him that Alternative l
leaves the City short of the funds they need, but it was unclear to
him whether Alternative 2 leaves the City short of the needed funds.
Comm. Sheldon stated he was also unclear of that because the Commission
does not have an appraisal on the value of the property or an
appraisal based on R-3 of the value of the property, and they did not
know how many units R-3 would allow to be built on the property.
Therefore, the Commission cannot properly value the property.
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Comm. Compton stated that because they cannot make a decision based
on what the property is worth or will be worth, they must make a
decision based on what the best planning of the property would be
for the City.
Comm. Sheldon asked Comm. Compton if he would like to zone all the
property open space.
Comm. Compton answered no. He stated he was not averse to zoning
the open space shown by the line in Alternative 2 to some buildable
level.
Chmn. Izant asked Ms. Sapetto if she had a definable line.
Ms. Sapetto stated the built-up portion ends exactly where she has
indicated it to end in Alternative 1. However, she indicated that
if Comm. Sheldon wished to extend the line down to the bottom of
the hili it could be described in that way.
Comm. Sheldon asked where that line would fall.
Ms. Sapetto responded that that would probably fall either on the
line in Alternative 2 or a little bit west of the line in Alternative 2.
Chmn. Izant asked Comm. Sheldon if he would like to modify his
motion to read: "to the bottom of the hill, but in no case any
further east than the westerly most line of Loma Drive."
Comm. Sheldon stated that that was an excellent suggestion.
The modification was accepted by the seconder of the motion.
Comm. Compton asked Chmn. Izant what he felt about the motion.
Chmn. Izant, in effect, did not feel that the Planning Commission's
recommendation would carry much weight with the City Council.
Mr. Spear noted that if the 2.6755 acres in Alternative 2 were
zoned at R-3, it would result in 107 units.
Mr. Ayers wished to speak on behalf of the City Council and stated
that the City Council's goals were to retain open space. He stated
that their method of gaining the financing to purchase the property
was the only way to do it. And to purchase the property, they must
rezone it.
Comrn. Peirce noted that the figure of 2.6755 acres in Alternative 2
is approximately 120 percent more than the figure of .87 acres in
Alternative 1. He stated that Mr. Speats comment is well taken
and wondered if it was Comm. Sheldon's intent to have that many
acres.
Comm. Sheldon replied that it is a question of whether you use the low
end or the high end of R-3. He stated it was not his intension to
over build this area. He stated that if the Commission wished, he
could specify in his motion that he intended to use the low end of
R-3 zoning.
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Comm. Peirce indicated that either the Alternative 1 map or the
Alternative 2 map is incorrect in regards to area.
Chmn. Izant asked Comm. Sheldon if he would like to put a numerical
limitation in his motion.
Comm. Sheldon stated a limit of not to exceed 70 units.
Comm. Peirce stated that the number of units is important, but the
area involved is also important. He believed 2.6 acres was too
much for high density and wished to have the proper acreage tied down.
Chmn. Izant pointed out that there was a limitation in the motion of
70 units.
Comm. Peirce stated he liked the limitation of 70 units but didn't
believe you could put a limitation of 70 units in the motion without
having conditional use permits and PD R-3.
Ms. Sapetto suggested that they develop it with PD R-3. She stated
she would calculate the density per acre and include that in the
resolution.
Comm. Sheldon estimated that a developer would pay approximately
$60,000 a unit for this land. Therefore, this land would be worth
approximately $4,200,000 for 70 units at $60,000 per unit.
Comm. Compton informed the Commission that the area in Alternative 2
labled "open space to PD R-2" not counting the subdivided lots is
.95 acres.
Ms. Sapetto recalculated the area in Alternative 2 to be 1.99 acres
instead of 2.6755 acres.
Comm. Peirce asked if it was correct tha.t the motion was to rezone
the area from the southerly extension of the westerly side of Loma
Drive to PD R-3 at 35 du/a with a total of 70 units.
Comm. Sheldon responded that that was acceptable to him.
Comm. Sheldon then called for the question.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comms. Sheldon, Compton, Schulte, Peirce, and Chmn. Izant.
None.
Comms. Shapiro and Newton.
None.
Comm. Sheldon asked Chmn. Izant if it was possible for him to
construct a letter profiling the Commission's feeling upon what he
considered the City Council foisted on the Planning Commission at
this meeting.
Chmn. Izant stated that he felt that would be appropriate and that
he would take on that responsibility.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, AUGUST 27, 1984
CONDITIONAL REZONING OF SOUTH SCHOOL (Cont.)
page 13
Motion by Comm. Peirce, seconded by Comm. Sheldon, to accept the
Environmental Impact Report for South School as written and to
certify the Environmental Impact Report and adopt the statement
of overriding considerations.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comms. Sheldon, Schulte, Peirce, and Chmn. Izant.
None.
Comms. Shapiro and Newton.
Comm. Compton.
Chmn. Izant stated that he needed a motion to approve Resolution
PC 84-22 which would accept lines 1 through 15, but which would
require staff to rewrite lines 16 to the end to reflect the
appropriate motion as made by Comm. Sheldon.
A member of the audience requested Chmn. Izant to restate what the
Commission agreed to.
Chmn. Izant stated that the Commission made a motion, which was
passed, to recommend to the City Council that approximately two
acres which is west of the westerly-most line of Loma Drive or to
the bottom of the hill, whichever comes first and which is the lessor
o:f the two, will be zoned PD R-3 and have a maximum of 70 units
to be allowed on that space.
Comm. Peirce wished to clarify that it is the westerly extension
of the west side of Loma Drive which is on the north side of
the property.
Chmn. Izant concurred and requested that the language reflect that.
He stated that that is the southerly extension of the westerly side
of Loma Drive.
Mrs. Burt asked Chmn. Izant which resolution he was talking about -
A, B, or C.
Chrnn. Izant responded that it would be a completely new resolution
which reflects the previous motion made. He stated they have taken
the staff's resolution and said that the language from line 1 through
15 is acceptable, but that line 16 to the end will now reflect the
new motion that was made by Comm. Sheldon.
Chmn. Izant then asked the secretary to call the roll.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Comrns. Sheldon, Compton, Schulte, Peirce, and Chmn. Izant.
None.
Comms. Shapiro and Newton.
None.
Motion by Comm. Schulte to adjourn at 9:30 P.M. No objections.
So ordered.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, AUGUST 27, 1984 page 14
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and
complete record of the action taken by the Planning Commission of
Hermosa Beach at their regularly scheduled meeting of August 27, 1984.
S tev Joes Shapiro, Secretary
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