HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 12.20.83MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 20,
1983, IN THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order by Comm. Shapiro at 7:31 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Comms. Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
Comm. Smith, Chrnn. Izant
ALSO PRESENT: Alfred Mercado, Planning Aide
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Comm. Strohecker, seconded by Comm. Soulakis, to approve the minutes
of the Planning Commission meeting of November 17, 1983. No objections.
So ordered.
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
Comm. Soulakis noted that P.C. 83-30 rescinds P.C. 83-25. P.C. 83-25 was the
resolution concerning the automatic C potential .rezoning. He noted that, in
the City Attorney's opinion, this was felt to be illegal.
Mr. Mercado stated that P.C. 83-30 rescinds the entire action. The City Council
approved one of the options. The entire matter will be coming back to the
Planning Commission on January 3, 1984, to be considered again.
Comm. Soulakis questioned whether one could apply for a separate C-3 zoning
before submission of a final plan.
Mr. Mercado stated that the process will now be to request the rezone. Beyond
that point, the application will be considered as any other commercial project.
Comm. Brown questioned whether the City Attorney put his opinions in writing.
If such a memo does exist, he noted that he would like to see a copy. He felt
that this would clarify matters for the Commission.
Motion by Comm. Strohecker, seconded by Comm. Soulakis, to approve P.C. 83-30.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
None
Comm. Brown, Newton
Comm. Smith, Chmn. Izant
Motion by Comm. Strohecker, seconded by· Comm, Soulakis, to approve P. C. 83-31.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
None
Comms. Brown, Newton
Comm. Smith, Chmn. Izant
FIVE-UNIT CONDOMINIUM AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT 166 HERMOSA AVENUE, AND
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 43055
Mr. Mercado gave staff report. He stated that this project received environ
mental review on December 8, 1983, and was granted a negative declaration.
This property was rezoned from C-1 to R-3 (July 5, 1983). A few months ago
the developer pulled a building permit for a single family residence. They
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have since submitted this proposed project to the Commission. In the process
of developing for the single family residence, the developer was permitted two
curb cuts which resulted in the removal of two on-street metered parking spaces.
Mr. Mercado stated that this project consists of a five-unit condominium on
a 5,800 square foot lot zoned R-3 and has a land use designation of high
density.
Mr. Mercado noted that the project meets all of the condominium and Subdivision
Map Act requirements (with the exception of the CC&R's, which were in preparation).
Since the project provides 15% of its gross floor area in the form of common
recreation space, it is permitted to provide 100 square feet of private recrea
tion space (as opposed to 150 sq. ft. as is usually required). A landsc~ping
plan has also been provided for Planning Commission approval.
Mr. Mercado stated that this project meets all condominium ordinance requirements;
therefore, staff recommends that the resolution approving this project be adopted.
Mr. Mercado further noted that the developer, while in the process of developing
the site as a single-family residence, was permitted two curb cuts, but was not
required to replace the lost parking spaces. This occurred because the Zoning
Code requires only subdivisions to replace on-site street parking removed due
to curb cuts. The Zoning Code does not have such a requirement for other
types of development, i.e., single family homes and apartments. In order to
mitigate this discrepency, staff suggested that the Commission adopt a Resolu-
tion of Intention to amend the Zoning Code by requiring that all curb cuts
removed, irrespective of the type of development, be replaced on the development
site removing such curb -cuts.
Mr. Mercado noted that, should the Commission desire to take an action regarding
this project, they have the option to continue this item and request an opinion
from the City Attorney.
Comm. Soulakis asked whether this project contained any exceptions to ordinances
on the books at the present time. He noted that in the past, some projects
contained exceptions.
Comm. Strohecker referred to a project that had previously come before the
Planning Commission. There was a question cm that project relative to side
and rear setbacks. There was a question of the 30-foot height limit being
exceeded.
Mr. Mercado stated that the project at hand is more complex than it may appear
at first glance. He noted that there will be problems with small lots. He
noted that several alternatives will need to be developed to mitigate the
situation, It is not just a matter of providd:.ng more space on a piece of property
if curb cuts are removed. He stated that for some people, this would simply
not be feasible on a small lot. In other cases, it would be impossible.
He stated that this is a matter that will be looked into further in an effort
to determine what will be in the best long-term interest for the City.
Comm. Soulakis asked for clarification on the relationship of curb cuts to
small lots.
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TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 430 5 5 (Cont.)
Mr. Mercado stated that the parking requirements that exist now are very bad ,
for the small lots. If it is essential to have curb cuts, the curb cut would
remove one additional parking space on the street.
CoIIIIIl, Soulakis felt that it is more appropriate to park in the driveway than
on the street.
Mr. Mercado replied that parking in the driveway would be of benefit only to
the property owner and his guests. It would not be of benefit to the public,
however, because the curb cut removes one parking space on the street.
Mr. Mercado noted the need to reach a compromise on these interests between
the private property owner and the general public; although, he was not certain
that a compromise could be reached. Ue did note that some types of developments,
such as subdivisions and condominiums, need to provide on-site parking for the
lost street parking. In the case of apartments, though, the Code does not
require compensation for the lost parking spaces,
Comm. Soulakis questioned whether the applicant had requested a curb cut,
be
Mr. Mercado replied that a single-family dwelling was to/put on the site initially,
The applicant was granted two curb cuts by the Building Department, therefore
removing two public parking spaces. The Zoning Code did not require him to
replace those lost parking spaces. If he had initially come in with a condo
minium, he would have been required to replace them.
Comm. Soulakis noted that the applicant is going from a residential, single
family dwelling unit with two curb cuts to a condominium, The curb cuts will
be retained, thereby eliminating two public parking spaces on the street.
Mr. Mercado stated that those spaces have already been eliminated,
that the question at hand before the Commission is the request~for
condominiums and whether or not it is appropriate that they should
site.
He noted
the five
be on this
Cormn. Soulakis questioned whether off-street parking would be provided for the
five condos.
Mr. Mercado replied in the affirmative. He also noted that one or two additional
parking spaces would be provided,
Comm. Newton questioned the possibility of requiring the applicant to close the
curb cuts if they are no longer necessary. She questioned whether this would be
burdensome or prohibitive.
Mr. Mercado replied that it is the option of the Planning Commission to continue
this item in order to get an opinion from the City Attorney as to what would be an
appropriate course to take.
Public Hearing opened at 7:50 P.M.
Comm, Newton asked whether both curb cuts were needed at the site.
Alien Juckes, 27310 Rainbow Ridge Road, Palos Verdes Peninsula, stated that
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both curb cuts were necessary for access onto the lot. He noted that he is
providing twelve parking spaces for the five units. He stressed that both
curb cuts would be necessary regardless of the number of units put on the lot.
Comm. Newton questioned if any curb cuts were made before construction
commenced on this site.
Mr. Juckes replied that after a permit is taken out, one can make the curb
cuts.
Mr. Mercado stated that Mr. Juckes was permitted by the Building Department
to make the curb cuts. He further noted that it is inappropriate to burden
a developer because certain discrepencies exist in the Code.
Comm. Soulakis noted that if only one curb cut had been allowed, only four
units could have been put on the site, and four to eight parking spaces would
be required. The fact that there are two curb cuts allows him to put in five
units and still accommodate the twelve-space parking requirement.
Comm. Soulakis questioned whethe~ the developer should be penalized because
there are two CHrbs at the site.
Comm. Strohecker noted that the developer did nothing improper.
Mr. Juckes noted that there are flaws in the ordinance which should be further
examined and corrected for future projects.
Comm. Strohecker suggested that this problem be addressed in a future meeting
of the Planning Commission.
Mr. Mercado stated that this particular project is consistent with the subdivision
map act and the local condominium ordinance. He saw no valid reason for denial
of the project, He asked that the Commission adopt a resolution of intention
to address this inconsistency in parking requirements.
Mr. Juckes felt that it would be more fair to increase the parking requirement
than to penalize someone for not putting in a curb cut at some future time.
Public Hearing closed at 7:55 P.M.
Mr. Mercado noted that everything done by Mr. Juckes up to this point has
been consistent with the local laws. There is a problem in that the local
laws are slightly inequitable for certain types of developments. The laws
are more prohibitive for subdivisions than they are for single-family dwellings.
He stated that staff feels this is inappropriate.
Comm. Newton felt that the project is an attractive one and will be of benefit
to that~section of the City.
Motion by Comm. Soulakis, seconded by Comm. Newton, to approve P.C. 83-32 as
presented by staff.
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AYES:
NOES':
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
None
None
Comm. Smith, Chmn. Izant
Comm.Newton suggested alternative wording for the third WHEREAS. She felt
that the more:appropriate wording would be: "WHEREAS, this dd!screpency has
recently been demons,t:rated and has resulted in two on-street parking spaces
being lost for a single family residence, now being developed as a five-unit
condominium located at 166 Hermosa Avenue, without such spaces being replaced
on-site,"
Comm. Soulakis concurred with Comm. Newton.
Motion by Comm. Newton, seconded by Comm. Soulakis, to approve the five-unit
condominium and conditional use permit at 166 Hermosa Avenue and tentative
tract map no. 43055,
AYES: Comms. Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Comm, Smith, Chmn. Izant
Motion by Comm, Soulakis, seconded by Comm. Newton to approve P.C. 83-32,
AYES: Connns. Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Comm. Smith, Chmn. Izant
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH
TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING CODE, SECTION 11.5, OFF STREET PARKING, TO
INCLUDE A PROVISION FOR ON STREE T PARKING SPACES LOST DUE TO CURB CUTS AND/OR
DRIVEWAYS
Mr. Mercado noted that the applicant applied for a permit to develop a single
family residence. He then made two curb cuts, Now the applicant has applied
for a five-unit condominium instead, resulting in one on-street parking place
being lost.
Comm. Strohecker suggested continuing this matter to the next Planning Commission
meeting, if possible. He further stated that he would like to hold a public
hearing on the issue of considering to amend the Zoning Code.
Motion by Comm. Newton, seconded by Comm. Soulakis, to approve P.C. 83-33.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Comms. Brown, Newton, Shapiro, Soulakis, Strohecker
None
None
Comm. Smith, Chmn. Izant
COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
Comm. Soulakis suggested a motion to say the Pledge of Allegiance before each
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COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
Planning Commission meeting.
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Comm. Shapiro made a motion to have the Pledge of Allegiance on the next agenda
of the Planning Commission as item No. 1. No objections. So ordered,
Comm. Strohecker referred to a memo that he saw concerning Sign Ordinance.
He noted that he would like to have a Planning Commission workshop session on
the matter if staff feels it would be of benefit to the Commission.
STAFF ITEMS
Mr. Mercado commented on the antenna located at the Poop Deck. He stated that
the owner of the Poop Deck has indicated that the antenna will be screened on
tl:e east and west sides soon. Seven-or eight-foot screening will put be up.
He is unable to go any higher due to wind problems.
Comm. Shapiro asked Mr. Mercado to prepare another update on the antenna at
the Poop Deck to be presented at the next Planning Commission meeting.
Comm. Soulakis noted that he would like to see the original plan. He questioned
the problems of going beyond the five-foot height limit. He noted that a variance
would be needed in those cases.
Mr. Mercado felt that the City Council had recently adopted a new ordinance
stating that the antennas must be screened. He also noted that the antenna
cannot exceed the height limit for any particular zone.
felt
Comm. Soulakis/that the situation deserves more investigation because there
might be a ·conflict.
Motion to adjourn at 8:26 P.M. No objections. So ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete recotd
of the action taken by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at their
regularly scheduled meeting of December 20, 1983.
Joel Shapiro• Secretary
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