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City of Hermosa Beach
Action Minutes - Final
Planning Commission
Chair
David Pedersen
Vice Chair
Stephen Izant
Commissioners
Peter Hoffman
Rob Saemann
Marie Rice
6:00 PMThursday, September 22, 2022
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning Commission regular meeting was held virtually pursuant to Executive Order AB 361
issued by Governor Gavin Newsom on September 16, 2021.The meeting was called to order by Chair
David Pedersen at 6:00 PM.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice Chair Izant.
III. ROLL CALL
Chair David Pedersen, Vice Chair Stephen Izant, Commissioner Rob Saemann,
Commissioner Peter Hoffman, and Commissioner Marie Rice
Present:5 -
Absent:0
All Planning Commission members attended remotely.
Also Present Remotely:
Suja Lowenthal, City Manager
Jeannie Naughton, Community Development Director
Patrick Donegan, Assistant City Attorney
Christy Teague, Senior Planner
James Atkins, Senior Planner
Maricela Guillean, Associate Planner
Johnathon Masi, Assistant Planner
Melanie Bristow, Administrative Assistant
IV. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION -- ORAL AND WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
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The following people provided public comment virtually:
1. Jonathan Wicks
2. Jon David
* Vice Chair Izant informed the Staff of possible Zoom issues at this time due to a
message he received. The meeting paused until 6:11 pm while the Zoom issue
was resolved. The meeting then returned to Jon David, and he completed his
public comment. *
3. Laura Pena
a.REPORT
22-0606
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
(Administrative Assistant Melanie Bristow)
Motion by Commissioner Rice and seconded by Commissioner Hoffman to
receive and file the written communications. Motion carried as follows:
Aye:Chair Pedersen, Vice Chair Izant, Commissioner Saemann, Commissioner Hoffman,
and Commissioner Rice
5 -
Absent:0
V. REVIEW AND DISCUSSION
a.REPORT
22-0567
INFORMATION ONLY: PUBLIC MEETING NOTICE
(Administrative Assistant Melanie Bristow)
b.REPORT
22-0566
SPECIAL MEETING TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE UPDATE:
CITYWIDE STANDARDS
(Associate Planner Maricela Guillen)
Chair Pedersen noted the technical challenges that led to this meeting being
held virtually.
Martha Miller from Miller Planning Associates provided a slide presentation.
The following person provided public comment virtually:
1. Ed Hart
Commissioner Rice inquired about the Performance Standards section (page 55,
section 17.09.130), where it states, “No vibrations shall be permitted so as to
cause a noticeable tremor measurable without instruments at lot line.” Martha
responded that this means a vibration would need to be felt without the use of
any instruments. Commissioner Hoffman feels that the amount of vibration that
would trigger a code issue needs to be defined more clearly to make it more
precise.
Commissioner Rice inquired about the historic preservation resources
nomination application requirements (page 25) in section 17.06.030; if it is a
privately owned property, if only the property owner could nominate the
property. Martha responded that the language in this section should be revised,
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and Commissioner Rice agreed that clearer language is needed. Commissioner
Hoffman also agreed.
Commissioner Saemann noted that on page 26 (section 17.06.50) it references
”potential landmark on a list of historic resources established by City Council.”
He would like to know if that list exists. Commissioner Hoffman responded that
the list referenced was never adopted or approved by City Council, but he
believes there is a list of places that have been identified. Community
Development Director Jeannie Naughton noted that the language was carried
over from the current code and it does talk about landmarks contemplated for
historic preservation. She says that resolution 98-65 can be posted on our website
for reference.
Vice Chair Izant referred to condominium conversions (on page 14) and asked if
this language is mandated by the State or, if not, then where did it come from.
Martha informed him it is the existing code language, and she can do more
research to see where it originated.
Commissioner Saemann referred to page 12 (section 17.05.020) under
condominium conversions and asked if someone wanted to convert an apartment
complex into a condominium, would it be their responsibility to rebalance the
number of units. Martha replied that it does not mean that but it means the owner
must take certain actions to reduce the impact on people who are currently living
there.
Vice Chair Izant noted (in regard to historic resources preservation) there is a
comment stating that the City can hold that up demolition or work for up to five
years. He asked what the rationale is behind that and if it was common in other
Cities. Martha responded that not every jurisdiction has that, but it is meant to
deter what might be attractive about illegally destroying a historic property.
Chair Pedersen inquired if there was a nonconforming structure use that
exceeded 50% of damage, what that would look like in terms of replacing the
building and requiring parking. Martha responded that there is a threshold of
what can be repaired and what is totaled. That would be a policy decision for the
City to make and not all current requirements are more restrictive than the
previous ones. Following up on Chair Pedersen’s comments, Vice Chair Izant
asked if a building burned down or was more than 50% destroyed, if the new
building would have to be built to current standards and would they have to
provide new parking or parking in lieu fees. Martha answered that it is situational
and according to current code, they would be required to provide new parking
spaces or in-lieu parking but there are provisions in the code to request a parking
reduction. Commissioner Saemann asked if there is a way to grandfather in that
if it is an existing business experiencing a natural disaster, we can grant the
same parking arrangement that the business had in place beforehand. Martha
said there are elements that can be added that are tailored to provide relief for
businesses in that situation.
Commissioner Hoffman asked (regarding page 36) how abandoned versus
vacated is defined. Martha reminded Staff that this section is for nonconforming
spaces. If the site is vacated, if the business license lapses, the utilities are
terminated, or if the lease terminated, any one of those events can be used to
measure the ninety-day period. Ninety days is the current allowance but if that is
enough time would be the City’s decision.
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Commissioner Rice asked if someone could provide a refresher on the lot size
required for 3500 square feet or larger and how many of those lots exist in
Hermosa versus those that could handle the less than 3500 square feet. Martha
responded that it is based on the square footage of the house living area and in
some ways the change would not even be noticeable. Some developers now put
two parking spaces in the garage and a guest parking space in the driveway.
Commissioner Hoffman said he is comfortable with everything proposed in
Signage except the idea that you couldn’t advertise when a business is closed.
He feels that the new business should be able to decide whether they’d like to
keep an old business’ sign on display or not. Commissioner Saemann and Vice
Chair agreed. Commissioner Rice supports Commissioner Hoffman’s suggestion
but thinks some provisions may need to be added. Assistant Attorney Donegan
said it must be a past use or business on that particular property. Chair Pedersen
requested that Martha draft some provisions on that section.
Commissioner Saemann asked if parking reductions were State based because
he cannot fathom lower parking in the residential zones for any reason. He feels
the result will make the City denser. Vice Chair Pedersen supports Commissioner
Saemann’s statements. He said he would not reduce the parking requirements in
residential zone. Commissioner Hoffman asked Martha to explain what the goal
is by reducing parking. Martha responded that specifically to the RH district, you
do need to make sure that development standards do not preclude the
achievement of allowed density per State law. Overall, it is about the collective
of the City goals. The way the parking standards are now, the streetscapes are
overrun with parking. Martha also pointed out that these are the minimum
requirements. It is not limiting the number of spaces that can be provided.
Commissioner Rice stated that she is hesitant to move forward with any reduction
in residential parking minimum requirements. Chair Pedersen also concurred
with his colleagues.
Commissioner Saemann agreed with Vice Chair Izant in supporting the proposed
commercial parking revisions. Commissioner Hoffman asked if the distinction
between medical offices and other offices has disappeared in the new standard.
Martha said the intent is to allow those changes to happen without it being
difficult. Commissioner Hoffman noted that these standards would apply to new
establishments. Vice Chair Izant commented that there are certain districts in the
City where there are fair amounts of redevelopments on R2 lots.
Commissioner Hoffman inquired if bicycle parking should be mandated. Martha
noted that covered parking could include a bicycle parking room and the
intention is to allow some flexibility on how that requirement is met.
Commissioner Rice asked if these are common ratio requirements in other
jurisdictions, where one bicycle space is required for every twenty-five car
parking spaces. Martha said these are typical requirements and standards.
Commissioner Saemann feels that in the event of a fire or building being
damaged, replacing a nonconforming building and not requiring additional
parking should be grandfathered.
Commissioner Hoffman brought the subject of abandonment up and stated that
the time needs to be extended due to the rate at which people can get the
insurance claim and permits issued, etc. Chair Pedersen stated he would feel
comfortable with 120 days and if two or more of the criteria occurred. Martha
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said she will work with Staff to address making those changes.
Vice Chair Izant referred to page fourteen (number three) to the signed affidavit
from the applicant of deed restriction waiving right to protest the formation of
underground utility district. Vice Chair Izant asked why an owner would have to
give up his right to protest. Martha stated that this is an existing provision, and
she will go back to research as to why it exists. Assistant Attorney Donegan said
he is also unsure of why this exists, but it is not uncommon. Vice Chair Izant
concurred that there should be an investigation on why this is necessary.
Chair Pedersen asked Martha to work on the section regarding vibration and
Martha stated she will work with Staff to revise this section.
VI. ADJOURNMENT TO THE OCTOBER 3, 2022 PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIAL
MEETING
Motion by Commissioner Saemann and seconded by Vice Chair Izant to adjourn
the meeting until the next Special Meeting on October 3, 2022. Motion carried as
follows:
Aye:Chair Pedersen, Vice Chair Izant, Commissioner Saemann, Commissioner Hoffman,
and Commissioner Rice
5 -
Absent:0
The meeting was adjourned by Chair Pedersen at 8:42 PM.
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