HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-02-18 PC Minutes Regular MeetingMINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OF THE CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON
FEBRUARY 18, 2003, 7:00 P.M.,
AT THE CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Pizer at 7:01 P.M.
Commissioner Tucker led the Pledge of Allegiance,
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Hoffman, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Tucker, and Chairman Pizer
Absent: None
Also Present: Sol Blumenfeld, Community Development Director
Denise Bothe, Recording Secretary
ORAL/WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION by Commissioner Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
the January 21, 2003, Minutes as submitted. The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
Hoffman, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
With regard to Resolution No. 02-54, Director Blumenfeld advised that the project architect has
requested that this matter be continued to the March Planning Commission meeting in order for
the plans to be finalized.
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to CONTINUE
consideration of Resolution P.C. 02-54, approving a Conditional Use Permit, Precise
Development Plan, and Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No. 26814 for a two -unit condominium
project at 538-540 Manhattan Avenue (continued from January 21, 2003 meeting). The motion
carried as follows:
AYES:
Hoffinan, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6. TEXT 03-2 -- Text amendment regarding chimney design and height for all
residential projects.
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment.
Director Blumenfeld addressed the Planning Commission's consideration of this amendment at
the previous meeting and highlighted the proposed following changes to the Zone Code related
to chimney design and height:
1) Define chimney assemblies to include the chase, flue, spark arrestor and chimney cap;
2) Limit the bulk of listed chimney assemblies to 3 feet wide by 3 feet long for a single flue
assembly, 3 feet wide by 5 feet long for a double flue assembly, and 3 feet wide by 7 feet
long for a triple flue assembly;
3) Limit the maximum height of the chimney assembly to 5 feet when located on a sloped
roof section;
4) Limit the maximum height of the chimney assembly to 4 feet in height when located on a
flat roof section; and
5) Prohibit non -listed chimney assemblies.
With regard to the last page of the Resolution, "Residential Zones," Commissioner Perrotti
suggested the following wording: "Residential structures with two or more stories may have
chimneys..."
Commissioner Tucker requested that the proposed text amendment be added to include
conformance with the Uniform Mechanical Code.
Chairman Pizer opened the public hearing. There being no input, the hearing was closed.
Following brief discussion, it was the consensus of the Planning Commission to include in the
text that the chimneys shall conform with all model codes that have been adopted by the City.
MOTION by Commissioner Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
TEXT 03-2 -- Text amendment regarding chimney design and height for all residential projects -
1) Define chimney assemblies to include the chase, flue, spark arrestor and chimney cap; 2)
Limit the bulk of listed chimney assemblies to 3 feet wide by 3 feet long for a single flue
assembly, 3 feet wide by 5 feet long for a double flue assembly, and 3 feet wide by 7 feet long
for a triple flue assembly; 3) Limit the maximum height of the chimney assembly to 5 feet when
located on a sloped roof section; 4) Limit the maximum height of the chimney assembly to 4
feet in height when located on a flat roof section; and 5) Prohibit non -listed chimney assemblies.
Moved to reflect under Section L in Residential Zones, "Residential structures with two or more
stories may have chimneys"; and moved to include wording that conformance will be governed
by all model codes. Motion carried as follows:
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AYES:
Hoffinan, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
7. TEXT 03-4 -- Text amendment regarding standards to reduce sound attenuation
requirements for condominiums other than stacked units.
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment.
Director Blumenfeld addressed the Planning Commission's consideration of this amendment at
the previous meeting and highlighted the proposed following changes to the text regarding
standards to reduce sound attenuation requirements for condominiums other than stacked units:
Floor/ceiling assemblies between stacked dwelling units shall be 58 STC; in non -stacked
dwelling units, the floor/ceiling assembly shall not be less than 54 STC; and to maintain a
52 STC rating for minimum wall insulation between units. These ratings shall be
detailed on the approved plans and referenced on the section drawing
Director Blumenfeld noted for Commissioner Tucker that almost all condominium projects in
Hermosa Beach are non -stacked units.
Chairman Pizer opened the public hearing. There being no input, the hearing was closed,.
Commissioner Tucker stated that he would prefer to see a requirement for a parallel stud wall
system in condominiums rather than a staggered stud wall system.
MOTION by Commissioner Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
TEXT 03-4 -- Text amendment regarding standards to reduce sound attenuation requirements for
condominiums other than stacked units, to allow a 54 STC rating for non -stacked units; maintain
a 52 STC rating for minimum wall insulation between units; and maintain a 58 STC rating for
stacked units. The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
Hoffman, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
Commissioner Tucker expressed his desire to place on a future agenda the issue of amending the
Condominium Conversion Ordinance, addressing the replacement of carpeting with hardwood
floors and the noise impacts that this creates.
8. TEXT 03-6 -- Text amendment regarding garage entries and finished garage ceiling
height.
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment.
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Director Blumenfeld stated that the Planning Commission had decided at its last meeting that it
would be advantageous to have a uniform 7-foot vertical clearance standard from the point of
entry onto the driveway up to the finished surface of the garage and to the finished ceiling
height; explained that future projects will have to be a bit more compressed to meet this standard;
and noted that staff intends on taking the necessary steps to advise the applicants and builders of
this change.
Commissioner Perrotti suggested placing these changes on the City's website.
Chairman Pizer opened the public hearing. There being no input, the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tucker suggested that this standard be measured with the door in the open
position.
Director Blumenfeld explained that no part of this pathway shall be less than 7 feet. With
respect to Commissioner Tucker's suggestion, Director Blumenfeld stated that wording will need
to be made to Section No. 2A, 2B, and the last line in No. 4, "with the door in the open position,
7 feet vertical clearance in the entryways and door openings to the ceiling, measured with the
door in the open position."
MOTION by Vice -Chairman Hoffinan, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to
APPROVE TEXT 03-6 -- Text amendment regarding garage entries and finished garage ceiling
height, to include 7 feet vertical clearance in the entryways and door openings to the ceiling,
measured with the door in the open position." The motion carried as follows:
AYES: Hoffinan, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
9. TEXT 03-5 -- Text amendment regarding limitations of open space coverage for
trellis structures.
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment.
Director Blumenfeld advised that staff is suggesting the following definition for trellis: "Trellis
means any framework or structure of crossed wood or other suitable building material used to
cover open space for aesthetic or shading purposes. For the purposes of useable open space
calculations, the open areas between the trellis beams must be equal to or exceed the open space
area required to remain open and uncovered as per the development standards for each multi-
family residential zone district." He added that a trellis may be allowed to cover an entire open
area as long as the open areas between the trellis beams are equal to or exceeds the area required
to remain open and uncovered; and stated that these apply to both single-family and multiple -
family zones.
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Director Blumenfeld noted for Commissioner Tucker that the applicants will be provided forms
which set out these new requirements for development standards.
Chairman Pizer opened the public hearing. There being no input, the hearing was closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Kersenboom, seconded by Vice -Chairman Hoffinan, to
APPROVE TEXT 03-5 -- Text amendment regarding limitations of open space coverage for
trellis structures, that a trellis may be allowed to cover an entire open area as long as the open
areas between the trellis beams are equal to or exceeds the area required to remain open and
uncovered. The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
Hoffman, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
10. TEXT 03-3 -- Text amendment regarding snack shop definition.
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment.
Director Blumenfeld explained that after further consideration and study, staff believes the
suggestion to limit seating in snack shops to 10 would not be a workable solution and that it
would be difficult for a snack shop business to adhere to this requirement and work within the 50
percent public -to -private area. Director Blumenfeld suggested the following text amendment:
Prohibition of table (waiter/waitress) service;
Limitation on the amount of seating;
Limitation on the public service area relative to gross floor area.
Director Blumenfeld highlighted the proposed amendment to the definition for snack shop:
"Snack shop or snack bar means a retail establishment that is distinguished from a restaurant as it
does not include waiter/waitress table service and does not serve full meals or have a kitchen
capable of serving meals but instead serves snacks or non-alcoholic bevera yes for consumption
I n the premises or for take-out; specifically, items such as donuts and other baked goods, ice
cream, yogurt, cookies, coffee, tea, and yuices are considered snacks."
Director Blumenfeld noted staff s suggested amendment for the parking section: "The parking
requirements for a snack bar and or snack shop shall be the same as that for restaurant, unless it
can be shown to the Planning Commission that the characteristics of the building, its location,
size and other mitigating factors such as limited service area relative to gross floor area and
limited seating capacity result in less parking demand than for a restaurant use. In these cases
the Planning Cuirement for parking, v rsuant
to Section 17.44.210 Parkin Plan." He explained that this amendment should give the Planning
Commission more ground rules to make its determinations; and stated that in all cases, the
owners would be compelled to come before the Planning Commission for approval relative to
snack shop and the retail parking requirement. He added that the Planning Commission will be
basing its determinations on a series of issues, such as limited floor to public area, limited seating
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capacity, location, and the size of the establishment.
Director Blumenfeld stated for Chairman Pizer that in order to be considered a retail parking
requirement, the applicant would have to have an approved parking plan; otherwise, the
applicant's business facility would be considered a restaurant.
Chairman Pizer opened the public hearing. There being no public input, the hearing was closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
TEXT 03-3 -- Text amendment regarding snack shop definition as follows: "Snack shop or
snack bar means a retail establishment that is distin uished from a Mestaurant as it does not
include waiter/waitress table service and does not serve frill meals or have a kitchen ca AWb of
servin meals but instead serves snacks or non-alcoholic beverages for consumption on the
premises or for take-out; specifically, items such as donuts and other baked goods, ice cream,
yogurt, cookies, coffec_ lea, and Tuices are considered snacks." And to include the suggested
amendment for the parking section: "The parking requirements for a snack bar and or snack
shop shall be the same as that for restaurant, unless it can be shown to the Planning Commission
that the characteristics of the building, its location, size and other mitigating factors such as
limited service area relative to goss floor area and limited seating ca a� city_result in less parking
demand than for a restaurant use. In these cases the Plannin Corrrmission may consider the
retail commercial re uirement for arkirr � cur -want to Section l �. 4.210 Parkin � Plara.,,
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
Hoffman, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
11. TEXT 03-1 -- Text amendment regarding downtown parking requirements
(continued from January. 21, 2003 meeting).
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said text amendment.
Director Blumenfeld stated that this text amendment would apply exclusively to the Downtown
area; and explained that it is the City's intent to try and balance the Downtown parking
requirements - highlighting the proposal to reduce the parking requirement for retail uses to 3
per 1,000 in order to encourage retail development. He explained that the retail development
tends to have less parking demand in the evening as opposed to restaurant uses, which tend to
have very high parking demands in the evening. Director Blumenfeld added that the parking
requirements for restaurant use would remain at 10 per 1,000, except that the change of use
provisions currently in place in the Zoning Ordinance would not allow for a credit of parking for
projects of 5,000 square feet or less —pointing out that the intent here would be to discourage the
conversion of retail restaurant space. Director Blumenfeld stated that the proposed text
amendment for the special Downtown Parking District requirement provisions are reflected on
Page 3 of staff report Items A through E (of record); and he added that a separate resolution
would need approval to update the City's in -lieu parking requirement, which would be
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considered for adoption by the City Council. He pointed out that these changes will also need
the approval of the Coastal Commission.
Chairman Pizer opened the public hearing. There being no input, the hearing was closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
TEXT 03-1 -- Text amendment regarding downtown parking requirements. The motion carried
as follows:
AYES:
Hoffinan, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
HEARING(S)
12. VAR 00-4 -- Request for extension of a Variance to allow guest parking to be located
behind tandem parking and to allow a portion of the side yard to count towards a
portion of required open space at 2059 Monterey Boulevard.
Staff Recommended Action: To extend the expiration of the Variance by one year to March 20,
2004.
Director Blumenfeld advised that the applicant is requesting an extension of the expiration date
in connection with this application to March 20, 2004; and noted that the applicant has suffered
some delays due to funding/financing and project design issues.
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
an extension to March 20, 2004, for VAR 00-4 -- Request for extension of a Variance to allow
guest parking to be located behind tandem parking and to allow a portion of the side yard to
count towards a portion of required open space at 2059 Monterey Boulevard. The motion carried
as follows:
AYES:
Hoffman, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
13. STAFF ITEMS
a. Memorandum regarding request from Police Chief to review Conditional Use Permit for
Dano's Beach Grill at 1320 Hermosa Avenue.
Director Blumenfeld advised the Hermosa Beach Police Chief is requesting that the Planning
Commission review Conditional Use Permit No. 00-1, Resolution No. 00-24, which allowed the
change from onsale alcohol at Dano's Beach Grill to onsale general alcohol; noted that the Police
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Chief s report documents his concerns relative to the existing operation at Dano's — pointing out
that there are recurring disturbances and arrests at the restaurant. Director Blumenfeld stated that
the Police Chief believes the CUP should be reviewed and staff is directed the matter be set for
public hearing, to prepare a public notice, and that the applicant be advised of the proposed
consideration of this matter. He indicated that discussion this evening should be limited to
directing staff to set the matter for hearing.
Commissioner Perrotti requested to have representatives present from the Police and Fire
Departments when this matter is heard by the Planning Commission.
Vice -Chairman Hoffman requested clarification of the language under Section 5, Item Nos. 4
and 6.
Commissioner Tucker addressed his opposition to setting this matter for public hearing due to
the business currently undergoing a change in ownership.
Director Blumenfeld stated that if the business/property is transferred, the new owner can be
made aware of the problem and take whatever corrective action is necessary.
Commissioner Tucker expressed his preference to have the new owner advised of the necessary
corrective actions; and noted his concern that setting this matter for public hearing may have a
negative impact on the sale of the business.
With the exception of Commissioner Tucker, the Planning Commission directed staff to notice
this matter for public hearing and to publish a notice of the proceeding.
b. Memorandum regarding garage parking required for all residential uses.
Director Blumenfeld stated that garage accommodations are included in every new project; and
noted various garage and guest parking requirements that are in place for single-family and
multiple -family dwellings. He advised that all parking must be located on the same lot and that
this parking must be provided within 200 feet of the entrance of the dwelling units. Director
Blumenfeld explained that staff believes eliminating possible options for providing required
parking, or making the existing open parking non -conforming, that this may actually decrease
the incentive of an owner to reconstruct their home — pointing out that sometimes, the garages
are the major limiting factor in a homeowner deciding whether or not to upgrade their home due
to the possibility of requiring a major reconfiguration of the property to comply with the
requirements.
Commissioner Perrotti noted his concern that the requirement would create a negative visual
impact upon some of the non -conforming beach cottages/dwellings. He stated that these
properties should be permitted to remain as is or remodeled without having to build two -car
garages.
Vice -Chairman Hoffman echoed Commissioner Perrotti's comments.
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Commissioner Tucker expressed his opinion that all new construction should include garages;
and stated that at least one of the garages should be at least the minimum size of 8 feet 6 inches
by 20 feet when an applicant is proposing a remodel over 50 percent.
In response to Vice -Chairman Hoffinan's inquiry regarding the purpose for this proposal,
Commissioner Tucker expressed his belief that this requirement would create an increase in
parking availability.
Director Blumenfeld noted for Chairman Pizer that virtually all new buildings require garages.
Commissioner Kersenboom expressed his belief that this requirement might create some
problems with nonconformity and setback requirements.
Vice -Chairman Hoffman expressed his belief that this is ultimately an aesthetic issue and that it
does not solve the parking problem.
Director Blumenfeld pointed out that the Planning Commission has discretionary approval for
proposals involving garages.
Commissioner Tucker requested that wording be included in the application to the
applicants/builders indicating that if another garage can be built, that all steps be taken to
accomplish that goal.
With the exception of Commissioner Tucker, members of the Planning Commission noted their
preference to leave the garage parking requirement as currently written. The majority vote
carried as follows:
AYES:
Hoffinan, Kersenboom, Perrotti, Pizer, Tucker
NOES:
Tucker
ABSTAIN:
None
ABSENT:
None
c. Memorandum regarding pervious paving.
Director Blumenfeld addressed the option to consider adding a new development standard for
pervious concrete paving material for driveways, parking lots and walkways; and stated that staff
is seeking direction on 1 of 3 options to initiate in a text amendment which would allow
amending the off-street parking and other development standards for paving driveways, parking
lots and walkways - 1) that all these requirements would be uniformly affected by this proposed
change; 2) to allow pervious concrete as a paving option, at the discretion of the Planning
Commission or the owner (not a development standard); and 3) to allow a certain percentage of
pervious concrete in each project for the proposed paving areas. He stated that this should apply
to any discretionary project, whether commercial or residential.
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Director Blumenfeld commented on the Coastal Commission's requirement that any project in a
coastal zone needs to comply with the Storm Water Management Plan requirements that have
been established by the County. Director Blumenfeld stated that he would continue his attempts
to obtain samples of this pervious material. He advised that the pervious material is durable and
that it can be decorative in nature. He expressed his belief that the cost of this material is about
the same as concrete.
Commissioner Kersenboom questioned what happens once this material is saturated.
Responding to Commissioner Kersenboom's inquiry, Director Blumenfeld explained that any
excess run-off will naturally flow into the catch basins as if it were regular cement.
Director Blumenfeld noted for Vice -Chairman Hoffman that there are several brands on the
market to choose from.
Chairman Pizer expressed his preference not to make a decision until the Planning Commission
has been provided some samples.
Director Blumenfeld explained for Commissioner Perrotti that the decorative paving requirement
would continue for driveway approach. He stated that the Coastal Commission has not yet
determined a standard for percolation into the soil.
Chairman Pizer noted his support to allow pervious concrete as a paving option; and suggested
that as things go along, the Planning Commission and staff can get more familiar with the
material and its durability.
Commissioner Kersenboom echoed Chairman Pizer's comments.
Commissioner Tucker suggested that the City also look into this material for some of its
facilities.
There was consensus among the Planning Commission to allow the use of pervious concrete.
With regard to the current development standards, the Commission directed staff to prepare a
text amendment to allow for this material to be used.
14. COMMISSIONER ITEMS
Commissioner Perrotti requested that the following topics be added to the upcoming Joint City
Council/Planning Commission meeting: question as to whether the City Council is changing its
direction on zoning issues; what progress, if any, has there been on the mixed use study that the
Planning Commission forwarded to City Council; and an issue concerning mixed live -work unit.
He questioned the Variance expiration date for the Pavilion.
Director Blumenfeld advised that the first permit for Pavilion's expires in September 2003; and
stated that he will draft a memorandum to City Council to indicate the Planning Commission's
interest in discussing mixed use issues.
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Commissioner Tucker stated that he was saddened by the recent passing of Community
Development Consultant Bob Goldin who was tragically killed in an automobile accident; and he
requested that the meeting be adjourned in his memory.
Director Blumenfeld explained that Bob Goldin worked with the City for two years as a
consultant; stated that he was extremely valuable to the department and the City; that he worked
on many of the City's specialized projects; and he indicated that he will be sorely missed. He
added that the memorial service is scheduled for this Saturday.
15. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, for adjournment
at 8:50 P.M. No objection was noted.
This meeting was adjourned
in the memory of Bob Goldin.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes are a true and complete record of the action taken by
the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of March 18,
2003.
F,
Ron Pizer, Chairman
Date
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