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HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON FEBRUARY 19, 2002, AT 7:00 P.M. AT THE HERMOSA
BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER, ROOM 4
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Perrotti at 7:09 p.m.
Commissioner Pizer led the pledge of allegiance.
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, and Chairman Perrotti
Absent: None
Also Present: Sol Blumenfeld, Community Development Director
Michael Schubach, City Planner
Deborah Salas, Recording Secretary
CONSENT.' CALENDA I
Chairman Perrotti corrected the January 15, 2002 Planning Commission minutes as follows: Page 1
of the Consent Calendar, Chairman Perrotti absent should be abstain; Page 9, fourth paragraph, the
Motion by Commissioner Tucker should be by Commissioner Pizer; Page 9, second paragraph,
Commissioner Tucker should be Commissioner Pizer.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to APPROVE the
January 15, 2002 Planning Commission minutes as corrected. Hearing no objections, Chairman
Perrotti so ordered.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Pizer, to APPROVE
Resolutions P.C. 02-13 02-2, 02-3, 02-4 and 02-5. Chairman Perrotti so ordered.
5. ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION
a. Commissioner Kersenboom abstained.
Director Blumenfeld said the project complies with the Zoning Ordinance.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to APPROVE
the Resolution P.C. 02-6.
Chairman Perrotti so ordered.
6. ORAL/WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
None.
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PUBLIC 'BEARINGS
7. PDP 01-20/CUP 01-7/PARK 01-5 -- CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A NEW MIXED USE BUILDING WITH TWO
RESIDENCES OVER COMMERCIAL, AND PARKING PLAN FOR TANDEM
PARKING AND SHARED PARKING AT 44 HERMOSA AVENUE (CONTINUED
FROM JANUARY 15, 2002 MEETING).
Staff Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Director Blumenfeld summarized that the project consists of two lots held under common
ownership on the east side of Hermosa Avenue between the City's south boundary and 1" Street.
He said on a C-1 zone property, apartments can be developed above a commercial building subject
to approval of a Conditional Use Permit. As this property involves more than 1,500 square feet, it
does require a Precise Development Plan, and the commercial uses and the guest parking also
require a Parking Plan. He said the commercial portion of the project has been reduced by
approximately 150 square feet in order to create additional outdoor space for residential uses, and
residential developable area has been increased by 25 square feet. This project requires a Parking
Plan because it is proposed to provide the parking in tandem. He said the architect has made
available two plans for the 12 parking spaces provided, of which 11 are required, but in either case,
some measures would have to be in place to help control how commercial users allow access to
residential users. He said Staff looked at R-3 residential use, medical office use, and mixed use to
assess if the project would create a nuisance in terms of trip generation and safety. If it is required
that the project be residential, a Zone Change and General Plan Amendment would be required.
Staff recommends that the developers provide some street tree planting and that the applicant
submit a precise roof plan, indicating critical point elevations. He said management of the parking
with respect to tandem parking is the key issue before the Commission.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman's inquiry, Director Blumenfeld said there is no required
setback.
Director Blumenfeld responded in the affirmative to Chairman Perrotti's question that there would
be enough turning radius on both of the parking alternative plans presented.
In response to Chairman Perrotti's comments regarding condominium standards, Director
Blumenfeld said the Zoning Ordinance allows the building of apartments above commercial, and
therefore, there is no guarantee that a commercial condominium or residential condominium can be
built on this site unless the Zone Code is amended to address this issue.
In response to Chairman Perrotti's inquiry regarding how the commercial users would know when
not to park behind residents, Director Blumenfeld responded there would need to be parking
management signage at the very minimum, but the commercial users would need to manage the use.
Commissioner Pizer questioned if there were developmental standards for mixed use projects.
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Director Blumenfeld responded that the Zoning Ordinance simply states that apartments are allowed
over commercial, except that it is subject to a Conditional Use Permit, and because it is a use
permit, the Commission can apply reasonable and legal standards.
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Director Blumenfeld said there is about 728 square feet
of open space per unit on the project but not all of it is qualifying based upon current standards.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that the primary concern relates to
how effectively the tenant and residents parking can be controlled. This condition may need to be
investigated in other cities.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Julie Oakes spoke regarding the Text Amendment to allow for residential units above commercial
and asked if the Letter of Intent was included in the packets.
Director Blumenfeld said the Text Amendment could not be pursued simply because the project
was not noticed.
Julie Oakes said the owner's intent is to create two units that involve residential with commercial,
and the idea from inception is live/work.
Chairman Perrotti mentioned the Commission packets did contain a letter dated February 5.
Julie Oakes said the setback was 3' in the rear for parking on the project, and for open space there
are no standards. They set back part of the front side of the building, which creates a deck area.
The deck area is 250 square feet, which is less then R-3 but more than R-2. The actual footage for
commercial is 800 square feet per unit. Signage would be in place to indicate to the commercial
users that they may need to move their car if and when a residential user needs to leave, which is
workable in this small situation. She said she was hoping Staff would have developed a Text
Amendment so they could go on to Council who is aware of the project. Addressing some concerns
of the commissioners, she said storage had been added in the garage area, and the residential
garages were not closed, and one space was added for residential. Two scenarios were submitted on
parking; one with three enclosed spaces and the other with two enclosed spaces. There are planters
that have been added in the front setback area for landscaping. She said it is an interesting project
for Hermosa Beach and works well in the location on Hermosa Avenue.
Commissioner Pizer inquired as to how the Text Amendment would be worded.
Julie Oakes said the Text Amendment would say that it allows residential use over commercial
which is more specific.
Director Blumenfeld said the Text Amendment was not initiated by the applicant. The Commission
or Council directs Staff to process a Text Amendment and in this case the Commission may direct
Staff to initiate the process. With respect to collateral issues brought up by Commissioner Pizer
related to development of a condominium, development standards need to be considered with
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respect to the Text Amendment. If the Commission is comfortable with a mixed use project, then
the condominium aspect of the project can be addressed in a condominium map filed for the project,
providing the building is constructed to condominium standards.
In response to Julie Oakes, Director Blumenfeld said currently apartments can be built above
commercial. We need to look at development standards for commercial condominium or residential
condominium development and decide if both are required or alternately there can be a simple text
amendment changing "apartments" to "residential."
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Director Blumenfeld responded affirmatively that
apartments means residential development, but it does not mean condominium development
because the Zone Code has a specific condominium ordinance that provides development standards
related to condominiums. He said the project can be sold as a single unit but not as a condominium
unless there is a condominium map and the project complies with condominium standards.
Commissioner Kersenboom brought up the issue of what would happen if the business fails in the
commercial space.
Director Blumenfeld said there are no provisions in the Zone Code to address these issues; however,
a Text Amendment can be prepared regarding live/work and occupancy of the building.
Julie Oakes said standards need to be developed by the Commission and Council relating to issues
that are related to commercial space.
Commissioner Kersenboom asked if there were other cities or municipalities that could be looked to
as a reference.
Julie Oakes said West Hollywood, Los Angeles, Santa Monica, and Culver City are doing some of
this type of development.
Director Blumenfeld said if a condominium map is filed, then that can be used for conditioning the
development and setting in place whatever standards the Commission may want to see apply in lieu
of a Text Amendment for mixed use development.
Commissioner Pizer proposed that there are two issues; getting the project going and the
development standards, and the development standards may take a year to be developed.
Director Blumenfeld said there are some 1-hour fire separation issues vertically and horizontally
relative to condominium development of the units. The project could be developed as apartments
over commercial today with the text in the Zoning Ordinance as it currently stands or with other
conditions established in a subsequent condominium map approval. Concurrently or subsequently a
Text Amendment can be brought back dealing with the condominium aspects or the ownership
situation.
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In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld said current condominium standards may
or may not apply to this property. He said if the plan submittal involves condominium development
then that requires a different look relative to condominium standards and the Building Code.
Commissioner Tucker commented that if the Commission likes the concept, which we probably do,
and according to the applicant's desire to sell each one of these, so now there is the need to meet
the condominium standards.
Julie Oakes said they cannot meet condominium standards because there is no ground floor, so new
standards need to be developed. She said this was developed without standards because there are
none but want to make the units livable. She displayed the rendering and spoke of how the owner
could sell each unit as a zero lot line development.
Commissioner Pizer asked if, in land use regulations, would mixed use be another classification of
use be established?
Director Blumenfeld suggested the Commission should act on the permit application before them
and perhaps direct Staff to do a Text Amendment to deal with mixed use development as a
subsequent motion.
Chairman Perrotti asked Julie Oakes to display the rendering for the camera.
Robert Carson, 1707 Pacific Coast Hwy, #501, said he would like the project to move forward, but
it was concluded he was addressing another project.
Skip Blomer, 126 1 st Court, said all the access to the development is to the rear off the one-way
street on Palm Drive. He said he has the same serious concerns about parking that he had expressed
in the previous meeting. He said a lot of the vehicles in Hermosa Beach are larger size and he has
concerns that they would not be able to use the parking in this facility because of the smaller size.
He said he sees nothing in the revised Staff report that addresses the increase in vehicular traffic on
Palm Drive, 1 st Court, 1 st Street, and Lyndon Street, which has caused previously significant
congestion and blocked access for police and fire vehicles. Nothing in the revised plan or the City's
report addresses the increased traffic flow on 1 st Court, 1 st Street, Lyndon Street, or Palm Drive
and effectively increased vehicular traffic on pedestrians outside residential homes facing 1 st Court.
Nothing discussed entry into this structure cannot legally be made from 1 st Court, 1 st Street
because Palm Drive is a one-way northbound roadway, thus only access must be westbound Lyndon
Street or northbound Hermosa Avenue to Lyndon Street and then on Palm Drive. In reality,
vehicular traffic will be coming in any way they can from any available access point, including
southbound on Palm Drive. This will create an additional exposure to pedestrians and bicyclists
and increase danger. The proposed plan does not include any parking access on Hermosa Avenue.
Vehicles will be stopping and parking on Palm Drive, similar to those experienced with the nursery
school. Traffic leaving the proposed building will be exiting northbound Palm or eastbound 1 st
Court, thus increasing traffic flow and exposing pedestrians and bicyclists. He recommended the
Commission deny the Conditional Use Permit, keep it commercial only as it is, and that any builder
comply with existing codes.
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Ted Frederick, 117 Lyndon Street, objected to the project because it creates a commercial parking
lot in an alley abutting residential.
David Pasqualini, attorney representing wife who resides at 137 Lyndon Street, said their real
concern is the parking and the traffic. Palm Drive is a one-way alley, and there will be increased
traffic and problems, and they cannot trust that there will be any parking enforcement. What there
will be is a lot of illegal parking, illegal driving, and a lot of honking. He said he would like to see
some improvement in the neighborhood but something needs to be done about parking, which has
not been addressed.
Julie Oakes said the City did a trip analysis. She said if there is a situation where the property were
to be used strictly as commercial with underground parking, the parking becomes even more
inconvenient. In the proposed project, with 800 square feet of commercial use per unit, you are
more than likely looking at commercial office use. In Staff s report on traffic analysis, the total
number of vehicle trips on retail would be 180 and mixed use would be 75.
Director Blumenfeld said the figures are out of ITE trip generation manual.
Julie Oakes said it is desirable that whatever is put in place here is livable and workable for
neighbors and enclosing the parking gives a more defined use of the space for residential and less
abuse by the residents themselves of the commercial spaces, and this is probably the least impacting
development that can be on this site.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Kersenboom said he thought it was a good idea and asked about the Conditions of
Approval.
Chairman Perrotti suggested they look at what was presented and vote on the proposal and give
guidance to Staff regarding the Text Amendment and Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Kersenboom concurred.
Commissioner Tucker commented that a Text Amendment will probably come before the Council
in a few months. He said there are going to be traffic problems anywhere in this community. He
said he feels the residents take advantage of the situation more than the out-of-towners. He said
eventually everything may be 30' in the area, so we do not have a choice on the height. He said that
for years guest parking for condominiums has been tandem and in that way the parking is controlled
by each unit. He said the concept is good and, as the owner has expressed his desire to sell the
units, we may get a whole new set of development standards, and he suggested forming a sub-
committee to work with Staff to see what other cities are doing and use this project as a model. He
said the parking on the supplemental sheet is good. He said more cities are trying to encourage this
type of development, but we need to set up the standards.
Commissioner Pizer said the live/work concept would be very good, and it is probably the best
compromise for the neighborhood.
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Commissioner Hoffman said the Council would have to approve development standards, which
historically they have not been interested in doing. The reality is that in the C-1 Zone, specific
standards exist that, yes, you can build apartments over commercial. He said that as the project
currently is proposed he has a problem with the parking. Tandem parking has been approved very
rarely and almost always in an R-1 situation. He said it is an interesting prototype, but it does not
meet the existing zoning because of the parking issue.
Chairman Perrotti said he was not sure if this project should be the model for all future mixed use
projects. He said he preferred the alternate parking situation with the two enclosed parking spaces
as it affords more flexibility in parking and circulation would be a little better. He said he thought
the mixed use concept would work on Hermosa Avenue and upper Pier Avenue but not on lower
Pier Avenue because of too much congestion. The concept may also work on parts of Pacific Coast
Highway and Aviation Boulevard. He said he likes the concept, but when development standard
issues are addressed down the road, the smallness of the lot and the commercial area being only 800
square feet on this project would not entail a lot of traffic. The commercial use would be retail or
office and would not generate as much traffic as a medical office. Any kind of restaurant use would
have to have a Conditional Use Permit. He said he would vote for the project, but development
standards would need to be addressed.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Director Blumenfeld said a discretionary permit is required
if the project is greater than 1,500 square feet, it requires a Precise Development Plan, and if it does
not conform to the parking requirements, there must be mitigating conditions for approval of a
Parking Plan. If all required parking is supplied on site, no other consideration is necessary by
Commission.
MOTION by Chairman Perrotti to APPROVE concept of project and then alternate motion on
what the Commission would like to see in Resolution.
Director Blumenfeld suggested that the Commission focus on the permits before them -- the
Parking Plan, the Conditional Use Permit, and the Precise Development Plan. He suggested that
Staff be directed to return with a Resolution at the next meeting, outlining the conditions of
approval relative to the project. On another motion, the Commission can direct Staff to proceed
with a Text Amendment to deal with all the issues relative to creating a mixed use zone.
MOTION by Chairman Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to APPROVE request for
Conditional Use Permit, Parking Plan, preferably the alternative Parking Plan and Precise
Development Plan.
AYES: Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: Hoffman
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Discussion was had between Commissioners and Director Blumenfeld regarding items to be
included in the Resolution to be returned at the next meeting.
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Director Blumenfeld suggested that Staff would draft a standard resolution that would deal with
some of the general commercial issues and the residential issues. He also said a specific study
would be done regarding general standards in other cities to develop a Text Amendment to be
presented at the next meeting.
8. PDP 01-19/PARK 014/VAR 01-4 -- Precise Development Plan and Parking Plan for
alterations to an existing retail and entertainment center to accommodate offices, a health
and fitness club, and retail uses, and a Variance to the 35' height limit to enclose existing
deck areas to match the height of the existing roof, and adoption of an Environmental
Negative Declaration at 1605 Pacific Coast Highway, Hermosa Pavilion.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Director Blumenfeld corrected the zip code shown on the staff report to 92618 and on Page 1 in the
Table tabulating the uses, both prior and proposed, the prior approved use should be "original
approved" use. He said the proposed project contains a health club of 44,300 square feet, an office
use of 48,990 square feet and retail development of about 12,088 square feet, totaling 105,378
square feet. It is located in the SPA-8 ZONE, which corresponds to C-3 uses, and there are three
issues: a Variance to, enclose the upper story space which exceeds the 35' height limits; a Precise
Development Plan to modify existing building, and a Parking Plan to manage the parking on site.
He said the plan was originally approved in 1987 and partially occupied but recently has been
completely unoccupied. The discretionary permits have expired necessitating the current
application. He said the applicant has prepared a parking analysis, examining a club with a similar
operation in Costa Mesa, which has many of the same amenities as the proposed project. The
owners retained Linscott, Law & Greenspan to prepare a parking study to assess parking impacts,
and the traffic engineer has calculated that a parking ratio of 6.75 spaces per 1,000 square feet is
required in order to park the project. Only 429 spaces are required to accommodate parking over
peak periods by managing parking supply. The proposed parking demand will meet the supply on
site in terns of what is currently available and what could be managed on site with respect to 31
additional tandem parking spaces and the use of valet services. The traffic engineer has said the
shared use concept does work overall in Costa Mesa and it would work at the proposed facility as
well. He said if the project is to be constructed with the full complement of over 105,000 square
feet of development, it would required enclosing the upper deck space in certain areas. As every
area of the roof deck is over height, this would required a Variance. When the project was last
approved, there were no view issues and no compelling reasons noted by Commission not to
approve a height Variance, so the Commission approved the Variance, making the four mandatory
findings. As the project involves modifications to the building in excess of 1,500 square feet, it
requires a Precise Development Plan. Staff believes the project is consistent with requirements for
approval of a Precise Development Plan. It is consistent with the C-3 zoning and the uses are
allowed. The City's traffic engineer has reviewed the Traffic Study and found it acceptable as
provided in Supplemental No. 8, appended to the Staff Report.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said the Costa Mesa Club was different
in that it was a stand-alone facility.
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In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld said the proposed Variance request is similar
to the one approved in 1999. He said the volume of the building has changed somewhat, but the
areas on the roof deck are similar to those approved previously by the Commission for a Variance
under the previous Precise Development Plan.
Chairman Perrotti referenced on Page 5, "No additional building coverage, reduction of
landscaping, or changes to building setbacks are proposed" and on Page 3, "The building frontage
will be extended to the street edge at the ground level and the upper floor deck areas and open
corridors will be enclosed" and so the shell of the building will not be expanded?
Director Blumenfeld said the building frontage will be enclosed and eliminates the drop-off area by
eliminating the escalator to get more efficiency and that would change the entry to the building.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Director Blumenfeld said Staff asked Cal Trans to comment
on the proposed project and they requested some clarifying information but no mention was made
about the drop-off area, and he said he was not sure if it was an original requirement of the City or
of Cal Trans.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld referenced the Page 1 table that should
read "original approved use." He said this project is different because of additional retail which
helps the parking demand and supply, and this project is slightly smaller than previously approved
for the site.
In response to Chairman Perrotti's question regarding the Table on page 17, Director Blumenfeld
said the owner may be able to address the difference in project size. He said the Environmental
Checklist is meant to identify environmental issues needed to be studied further and mitigated.
Traffic and parking were the key issues identified and they were addressed for the current project
size.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said parking on site, rather than trip
generation, was the key issue and this use, compared more favorably to the previous theater use,
which generates much more traffic.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Jerry Wiggle, Keisker & Wiggle Architects, corrected the report at page 10 and said the total square
footage would be 105,378. Referencing item No. 3, he said they are hoping that condition 3(d)
would be included in (c), so that the Police Department would determine the extent of security
measures. He said the Variance is the same as the previous one proposed in 1999 with enclosure of
the decks. He said the drop-off area is illegal as it is now for ADA standards, and the island of
concrete will be removed which would then open in the circulation at the front of the building.
Architectural changes would be made where the sign and elevator are located now to make the main
entrance to the building on the highway side.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Wiggle said that if there is a pedestrian drop-off in the
front of the building, their experience has always been that they be handicapped accessible. He also
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said that the current ADA parking does not meet current standards and so the solution that was
brought up was to designate the spaces next to the elevator on each floor of the parking garage to be
handicapped parking.
Jack Greenspan, Linscott, Law & Greenspan; 234 East Colorado Boulevard, Pasadena, said the
number of trips per day would be reduced by 59% between the approved plan of July 1999 and the
proposed plan, and the difference between the proposed plan and when the theaters were in
operation is a reduction of 50%.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Greenspan said the suggested outgoing trip volume of 42
trips in the AM hours, which are based on the ITE standard, should not create a problem in their
opinion.
Following discussion regarding the standard for parking demand rates, Director Blumenfeld said the
parking ratio used of 6.75 spaces per 1,000 square feet of floor area was used by Mr. Greenspan in a
shared parking analysis, which is also analogous to the facility studies in Costa Mesa.
Mr. Greenspan said they studied two facilities, one in Santa Monica and the Costa Mesa facility,
and the factor of 6.75 was determined by counting the number of people entering the facility. He
said he thought the standard is very high.
Gene Shook, President of Shook Development, 220 Technology Drive, Suite 110, Irvine, California
92618, detailed different amenities of the health club facility, specifically aerobic and cycling
rooms, swimming pool area, basketball court, kids area, as they relate to the parking issue. He
pointed out the differences between smaller club facilities and the proposed facility where a larger
facility will have a regular locker room and an executive locker room. He said a club with all the
square footage oii one floor is much more efficient. He said smaller clubs of 10,000 to 20,000
square beet Usually charge between 18 and 20 monthly, a meditun club charges between i35 and
$45, and a higher end club can charge between $88 and 1.60 per n onth., He said changes have
been done such as changing some of the uses to office uses and inodilyiti.g the plan for better
circulation. He explained a change to the ingress area off of 16t" Street, which is anticipated, will
ease maneuverability for large vehicles. He said he has been assured by 24-Hour Fitness that their
employees will be using the tandem parking spaces. He said as square footage of a project is
lessened, the value and viability of the project is decreased; and therefore, the ability to get a loan to
build the project is decreased. He said they need the Commission's help to approve the project and
increase the square footage, although that was not presented, so the project can move forward.
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Mr. Shook detailed timing and different approvals that
would need to be obtained subsequent to Commission's approval. He also said it is impossible to
obtain a loan unless a project is 70 or 80% occupied. He said other occupants are not available
because of uncertainty of the timing of the approval of the project.
Commissioner Pizer said he liked the presentation as it answered questions that he had in a logical
manner.
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Bill Oughton, Director of Real Estate, 24-Hour Fitness Center, said usage of the facility usually
goes down as the square footage goes up. He said this club will be in the $69 to $89 range per
month. He said development of health clubs has changed tremendously over the last five years as
they now have approximately 100 clubs across the United States that are 30,000 square feet or
more.
Dan Wehr, Regional Vice President of 24-Hour Fitness Center, said health clubs are usually busier
in the evenings. He said they would like to see a 70,000 square foot facility in Hermosa Beach.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Oughton said the $60 to $89 range applied to the
executive locker rooms with separate sauna, steam room and jacuzzi.
Mr. Wehr said people who enroll usually use a facility either close to home or to work.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Oughton said the noise issue has been dealt with in the
past by installing extra padding in the insulation.
Mr. Wehr commented that at several of their facilities they have designated parking for their
employees. He said the number of employees per shift would be approximately 20 to 25. He said
parking for bicycles would be available.
Jim Lissner, 2715 El Oeste, Hermosa Beach, said nobody rides their bike to the club located at
Artesia Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway, and their parking lot is always jammed. He said the
Commission must make four findings to grant the Variance, the first one being exceptional
circumstances. He said the lot being stepped is not unusual for Hermosa Beach, and he said many
commercial properties have decks and some even rent sidewalks in order to have outdoor space. He
said the second finding is that they are being denied a substantial property right being enjoyed by
others, but neither Vons nor the new hotel nearby have been given Variances to exceed the height
limit, and there are no demonstrations that the extra interior square footage is necessary for the
viability of the business. The largest tenant is giving up space to retail and office, and we have
many successful gyms in town with a fraction of the space asked for here. There are no
demonstrations that the gym or the offices have to have the interior space in the deck locations
rather than some other place in the building. Getting a view does not justify giving a Variance.
With regard to the third finding, no material harm, he spoke about the sound, which will bounce off
the vertical walls that are being added. He said people's views will also be affected because of the
lights, which will be on all night. The building will also block the sunlight to the apartment
building next door in the early morning and late afternoon. Traffic will be increased in the night
time hours as well as pollution and traffic along Ardmore Avenue. He said he hopes the project is
approved without building out the deck and with a curfew on the use of the deck.
Mr. Oughton said usage of the facility between 11:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. may be 10 people.
Mr. Wehr said the people using the facility in the early morning hours are usually fire department,
police department personnel, nurses, or city workers.
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Gene Shook said the use in the proposed facility is less intensive at night. He said changes on the
apartment side would be minimal as the wall is already in place.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld said a restaurant could be added under the C-
3 zone but, if they wanted alcohol, a Conditional Use Permit would require approval with
confirmation that there was no material change in the parking demand and supply.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld said the Commission is approving a
Parking Plan with a specific allocation of square footage for a Health and Fitness Club, and if the
Commission is not comfortable with the clarity of Condition 2, it could be amended to say that this
Parking Plan approval includes a Fitness Club of 44,300 square feet which includes a basketball
court and a pool to address related parking demand issues.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said the conditions of approval include
Fire Department and the Public Works Departments final approval to the project plans.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld said Staff focused on parking issues, and it
was important that the project was adequately secured relative to providing security personnel and
security in the design and lighting in the parking structure.
Chairman Perrotti discussed adding or modifying the resolution to discuss the soundproofing and
the square footage correction. He said there seemed to be much more detail as to how much traffic
is going to be controlled, and the parking seems to be more defined.
Commissioner Pizer suggested deleting (3d) and including language in No. 6, regarding the
basketball court and pool square footage.
Director Blumenfeld recommended adding to Condition 2 under the allocation of 44,300 square
feet, "including a basketball court and pool." Under (6b), he suggested adding "the project plans
shall include insulation to attenuate noise to surrounding residential."
MOTION by Commissioner Kersenboom, seconded by Chairman Pizer, to APPROVE the Precise
Development Plan and the Parking Plan with modifications to Paragraph 2, adding in the
information on the pool and the gym, and also paragraph (6), adding subparagraph (b) to include
insulation to contain the noise, and combining paragraph (3d) into (3c).
Discussion was held between the Commissioners regarding security at the project.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Perrotti, and Kersenboom.
NOES: Tucker
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioner Hoffman said he has a problem making the first finding to grant the Variance.
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Commissioner Tucker said he was in agreement with Commissioner Hoffman and that landscaping
would be lost.
Commissioner Kersenboom said what is proposed is better than what is presently there, and the
Variance is consistent with the prior approval findings.
Commissioner Pizer said they need to look at what harm it does to the City having the property
vacant for so many years.
Chairman Perrotti and Commissioner Pizer said the Variance requested is quite similar to the one in
1999 and said they could make the four findings noted in the staff report as reviewed by Staff and
approved previously.
MOTION by Commissioner Pizer, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE the
Variance.
Commissioner Tucker said they should not take economic conditions into account, and he did not
think the envelope of the building in front should change.
AYES:
Pizer, Perrotti, and Kersenboom
NOES:
Hoffman, Tucker
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
Recess taken.
9. TEXT 02-2 -- Text Amendment for front yard requirement on through lots between the
Strand and the service road parallel to Hermosa Avenue approximately between 27th
Street and 35th Street.
Staff Recommended Action: To recommend approval of said Text Amendment.
Director Blumenfeld presented the staff report and said the Text Amendment would eliminate
an inequitable development standard for through lots between Tiie Strand and Hermosa Avenue
north of 27th Street. Cuffently there is a requirement for a double Front yard for those lots with
their orientation to The Strand and along Hermosa Avenue "Iris Text Amendment would
eliminate the extra front yard requirement and would create a development standard consistent
with some of the surrounding properties with a similar through lot condition which have The
Strand as their front yard. He said the affected area of the lots contributes approximately 169
square feet of building area.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld said the proposed change reads "The
lots facing the service road located parallel to Hermosa Avenue approximately between 27th
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Street and 35t" Street shall not be required to provide a front yard on Hermosa Avenue," in bold
and underlined in the report.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said there would be no exemption to
not provide guest parking.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Pizer, to ADOPT.
AYES: Hoffrnan, Pizer, Perrotti, Tucker, and Kersenboom
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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10. NR 01-5 -- Addition, remodel and conversion of an existing duplex (nonconforming to
front and side yard requirements) into a single-family dwelling resulting in a greater
than 50% increase in valuation at 2222 Monterey Boulevard (continued from January
15, 2002 meeting)
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Michael Schubach said Staff is recommending approval. It is a duplex being converted to a single
family house, which has an increase of 98.8% in valuation and more than 30% of the exterior walls
are being removed. The only nonconformities are the front yard setback and the front porch that
encroaches the side yard is 3' rather than 5' but these substandards are not unusual or severe.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said the wall is shown as a hidden line
on the drawings behind the 10' setback line on the drawings.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Michael Lee, architect, said the leaning wall is behind the setback and the dotted line is the eaves.
The development is less intensive with a reduction from a duplex to a single family.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Lee said the drawings may be a bit misleading as the
garage will have the same detailing as the rest of the house. The owners are interested in the view
and have put a deck on top of the garage.
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Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hoffman said the plan is improving a lot of existing problems and is a nice
compromise for the neighborhood.
Commissioner Pizer said he is in favor of the project because it is less intensive and a good looking
modification.
Commissioner Tucker said he would like to see the owners sign a covenant stating they would not
change the guest room to another unit.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld said this particular size lot would not qualify
for a granny flat.
Chairman Perrotti said he did not think the nonconformities were that severe.
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, for Staff to
GRANT the Variance and include a covenant stating they will not rent the guest room as an
apartment.
AYES Hoffman, Pizer, Perrotti, Tucker, and Kersenboom
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
11. NR 02-1 -- A nonconforming remodel to remodel/expand 100 square foot and reduce
the number of dwelling units from four units to three units at 802 The Strand.
Staff Recommended Action: To continue to March 19, 2002 meeting.
Staff report presented by Michael Schubach. He said at the owner's request Staff is recommending
to continue the matter to the March 19 meeting.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hoffman
MOTION to CONTINUE by Commissioner Tucker and seconded by Commissioner Pizer.
AYES Hoffman, Pizer, Perrotti, Tucker, and Kersenboom
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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12. CON 98-15/PDP 98-20 -- Request for extension of a Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No.
25226 for a two -unit condominium at 228 Ardmore Avenue.
Staff Recommended Action: To extend the expiration by one year to February 16, 2003.
Michael Schubach said Staff is recommending approval for the continuance. The applicant has had
delays caused by the County in getting the map approved.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public meeting.
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to EXTEND for
one year.
AYES : Hoffman, Pizer, Perrotti, Tucker, and Kersenboom
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
13. NR 02-2 -- Remodel and expansion to an existing nonconforming building resulting in
a greater than 50% increase in valuation at 255 29th Street.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Michael Schubach said Staff is reconii-â–ºending approval. Ile said this is a conversion from a duplex
to a single family dwelling where there will be only one remaining noncontbrinity and that is the
open space on the roof deck will exceed more than maximum of 100 square feet. There is one
problem of new front steps encroaching into the required front yard. Only other item is all
information required for height was not supplied and revised plans need to be provided with that
information included.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Schubach said a landing prior to the sidewalk is what the
code requires.
Commissioner Tucker said he would like to add a covenant regarding the guest room.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Mechas Griness, architect, said for the minimum amount of money they want to convert two units
to one unit.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
with covenant they will not rent the guest room as an apartment.
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AYES : Hoffinan, Pizer, Perrotti, Tucker, and Kersenboom
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
14. NR 02-3 -- Remodel and expanding a single family dwelling exceeding 50% of existing
valuation at 1108 1st Street.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Staff report by Mr. Schubach to recommend approval of the nonconforming remodel. There is only
one nonconforming element of 3/10 of a foot sideyard and the lot coverage is only 35%.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Richard Telford, architect, said they are adding on to the existing property and mitigating all
nonconformities that they can while minimizing any impact to the neighbors as well as improving
the streetscape.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Kersenboom, seconded by Commissioner Pizer, to APPROVE.
AYES : Hoffman, Pizer, Perrotti and Kersenboom
NOES: Tucker
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
15. CON 99-24/PDP 99-28 -- Appeal of Community Development Director's decision for a
minor modification at 321 loth Street.
Staff Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Commissioner Hoffman abstained.
Director Blumenfeld said the owner and builder have made some changes to the project design that
are not consistent with what the Commission previously approved. He said a supplemental letter
dated January 28, 2002, was provided by the project supervisor, detailing the proposed changes.
Staff has reviewed the changes and, although the changes do not compromise the design that was
approved, confirmation by the Commission is requested.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said that sometimes renderings are
embellished somewhat differently from the approved plan sets.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
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Richard Gebele, 321 101h Street, said his parents are moving into the second unit. He also said most
of the changes are a mix up between what was on the rendering and what was on the plan, and they
had two architects involved with the project. He detailed several changes and the reasons for them.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Pizer, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, that it is a minor
modification.
AYES : Pizer, Perrotti and Kersenboom
NOES: Tucker
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Hoffman
STAFF ITEMS
Director Blumenfeld said one staff item is a request that the Commission consider directing a
change to the text in the M-1 zone. In reviewing the parking requirements in the M °-zone, it became
clear, after reviewing them with the City Attorney, that it is not possible to make non -required
parking available through lease provisions withi:a the zone. Staff is requesting Commission direct a
Tex Amendment be drafted to enable parking to be supplied off site through lease or some other
means.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said this would only be non -required
parking.
Director Blumenfeld asked if he could get direction by Minute Order.
Chairman Perrotti said yes.
Director Blumenfeld said there is a Livable Cities Conference on February 28 and a joint meeting
between Planning and Public Works commissions on February 27.
16a. Status report on conditional use permit compliance for auto service use located at 555
Pacific Coast Highway.
Director Blumenfeld said this is a status report on a Conditional Use Permit following one year of
operation after the City Council modified the use permit. There was the requi.rer-rieut t1iat some of
the automobiles stored on site should be moved and the owner is aware or that. Other then that, the
project is in compliance with the approved Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner Pizer RECOMMENDED review in six months.
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In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said he does not have a draft Text
Amendment to look into changing the allowable footage in the R-3 zone, but he does have some
draft working to provide to Commission and to Council.
18. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, for adjournment at
11:00 P.M.
No objections, so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action taken
by the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of
February 19, 2002.
Sam Perrotti, Chairman
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Date
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