HomeMy WebLinkAbout2001-04-17 PC Minutes Regular MeetingMINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON APRIL 17, 2001, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Perrotti at 7:10 p.m.
Commissioner Hoffman led the pledge of allegiance.
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom and Chairman Perrotti
Absent: None
Also Present: Sol Blumenfeld, Community Development Director
Michael Schubach, City Planner
Diane Cleary, Recording Secretary
Chairman Perrotti welcomed back City Planner Schubach.
CONS ENTCALENDAR
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Pizer, to APPROVE the
March 20, 2001 Planning Commission minutes.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
Resolutions P.C. 01-6, 01-7, 01-11, 01-9 and 01-10.
Hearing no objections, Chairman Perrotti so ordered.
5. Item(s) for consideration
a. Resolution P.C. 01-8 recommending amending the Zoning Ordinance regarding the
limitations on rooftop antennas, satellite dishes and similar equipment that exceed the
height limit and the placement and use of wireless communication facilities.
Director Blumenfeld reviewed Resolution P.C.01-8 and indicated that the reference to mobile
cell antennas have been omitted.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Director Blumenfeld stated that public facilities zoned
open space could be added as a permitted use under the OS 1 Zone, Section 17.30.020.
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In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld explained that a private property would
be a classified as an OSO Zone.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
Resolution P.C. 01-8, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Hermosa Beach,
California, to recommend amending the Zoning Ordinance regarding the limitations on rooftop
antennas, satellite dishes and similar equipment that exceed the height limit and the placement
and use of wireless communication facilities, with modifications as discussed by the
Commission.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
6. ORAL WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Judy Garland inquired about an R2 property at 19th Street and Monterey that has been designated
as a cell site. Director Blumenfeld explained that the Commission could agendize this item for
public discussion if desired.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Commissioner Hoffman recused himself from the dais at 7:21 p.m.
7. CON. 01-3 — CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ADD A
MEZZANINE TO AN EXISTING TWO -UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 858 LOMA
DRIVE (CONTINUED FROM MARCH 20, 2001 MEETING).
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
City Planner Schubach explained that this item was continued due to concern with the height and
the critical points of the critical elevations. He said staff has provided a site plan showing the
elevations on both sides of the property which explains why certain points are used as critical
points. He indicated the lot has a convex curve which takes a dramatic drop at two points, one
on each side. He pointed out that if other points off the property were used, higher elevations
would take place.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld explained that the top of the finished
surface is being used, which is concrete.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Jerry Compton, project architect, explained there is a very dramatic drop at one point and the lot
is very unusual. He also informed that the change to 7 feet on the deck has been completed.
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Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld indicated that the deck is not
considered part of the floor area of the building.
MOTION by Commissioner Kersenboom, seconded by Chairman Pizer, to APPROVE PC
Resolution 01-, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Hermosa Beach,
California, approving a Conditional Use Permit amendment to allow a mezzanine addition and
alterations to a 2-unit condominium located at 858 Loma Drive, and legally described as Lot 1,
condominium P.M. 217-100.
AYES: Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN; None
RECUSE: Hoffman
Commissioner Hoffman returned to the dais at 7:28 p.m.
8. CON 01-5/PDP 01-5 — CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PRECISE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.26290
FOR A TWO -UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT 2935 PALM DRIVE (CONTINUED
FROM MARCH 20, 2001 MEETING).
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
City Planner Schubach gave a staff report and stated the project meets or exceeds the minimum
zoning requirements. He said, however, there is still a 15 percent driveway slope which will be
required to be changed to a 12.5 percent slope. He also said there are two 36-inch box trees
provided, and all the standard conditions are included in the Resolution.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, City Planner Schubach said that the required change in the
driveway slope will be required on the front unit and should not be a problem.
Commissioner Kersenboom requested to see the details on the south and east elevations.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Jesus Mesa indicated that he is representing the architect and is available for questions.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Mr. Mesa explained that there is a trim mold on the west
elevation between the garage and the first floor which will continue around the south elevation,
and there will also be some moldings on the parapets and around the windows. He also said that
the south and east elevations will look close to the details on the west elevation.
Chairman Perrotti would like to see a more detailed plan.
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Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tucker would like to see more detail on the south and east elevations such as
detail around the windows, arches and horizontal riglets, etc.
Commissioner Hoffman agreed.
MOTION by Commissioner Kersenboom, seconded by Commissioner Tucker to APPROVE
P.C. Resolution 01-, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Hermosa Beach,
California, approving a Conditional Use Permit, Precise Development Plan, and Vesting
Tentative Parcel Map #26290 for a two (2)-unit condominium project, at 2935 Palm Drive,
legally described as Lot 1, Block 106, Shakespeare Tract, subject to final consent approval of the
design details.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioner Pizer recused himself from the dais at 7:42 p.m.
9. VAR 01-2 — VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN ORDER TO
EXTEND AND MATCH AN EXISTING SLOPING ROOF CURRENTLY
NONCONFORMING TO THE HEIGHT LIMIT AT 502 THE STRAND.
Staff Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and explained the request. He said that the applicant is
proposing this Variance to allow the existing roof be extended over the proposed third
floor/penthouse addition in an elTort to maintain the architectural integrity and aesthetic appeal
of the residence which is 75 years old, and according to the applicant is "known to be of
historical value, especially for its style." He said no further evidence has been provided to
demonstrate that this structure is recognized as a historic resource, or that the style of
architecture is of particular historic merit, and the property is not included on the "List of Locally
Significant Historic Resources" in the Land Use Element of the General Plan. He further
reviewed the findings to be met in order to grant a Variance, and he said staff has found it
difficult to meet Findings 1 and 2.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld explained that the City's consulting
architectural historian would have to review the building for historic designation. 11-e pointed out
that the existing roof ridge of the hip roof is 6 feet over the 30-foot height limit, and he believed
there would not be grounds to grant the Variance without determining whether or not there is
historic merit.
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In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that the condition indicated on
the renderings would be what will be built if the Variance is denied. He said the applicant has
submitted a plan which was approved with a flat roof that conforms to the height requirements of
30 feet; however, the applicant is asking to create a more harmonious roof line that is consistent
with the rest of the building which will require a Variance to the height in the zone.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said that the project is
nonconforming to the height requirements.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Susan Darcy, applicant for the project, introduced the Mr. Roy Young, architect for the project
and Mr. John Hales who sits on the Board of the Historic Society. She clarified that the roof line
and the Variance only relates to a small portion of the addition which will expand the existing
third floor. She said that they would like to maintain the architectural integrity of a beautiful old
building that was built in 1924. She informed that she has received several letters of support
from a variety of neighbors, and she said people in the area have admired and appreciated the
home. She also informed that the previous owners were direct descendants of the Avila's which
was originally their beach house, and the Avila Adobe on Olvera Street is actually now a
museum. She also pointed out that the other homes around her are as tall or taller in height, and
the proposed roof fine change would not impact any views.
Roy Young, Architect for the project, stated he is in favor of making the house consistent
throughout architecturally, and stated he is available for questions.
John Hale stated he has been doing an extensive study of the history of the City, and he said in
the 60's and 70's he sat on the Planning Commission. He said that the building permit was
issued June 10, 1924, and he believed that some tolerance should be given to buildings that were
created prior to 1930. He said that the Darcy's are trying to make an asset for the City, and the
building is very unique and genuine and will be an outstanding and fine home on the Strand. He
believed that thought should be given to the age of the home and period of time it was built. He
believed that there are other sites not on the "List of Locally Significant Historic Resources" that
should be considered. He hoped that the very minor aspect of the overall project of continuing
the roof line which will not impact any of the neighbors and carries out the continuity of the rest
of the design of the house should be considered relative to the age of the property.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Hale said that a flat roof in the portion to be extended
would be detrimental to the overall design of the home.
Shawn Darcy, applicant for the project, stated that he and his wife had admired the home for a
long time, and they purchased it with the intention of restoring and keeping it. He read a letter
from Gladys Bain who owns the corner behind him and is in support of the proposal. He pointed
out that the roof line will not impact on any of the views and will not change the use of the room.
He said they just want to extend the hip roof backwards to maintain the aesthetic value and to be
consistent with the architecture of the home.
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Larry Goldsmith, neighbor of the applicant, stated he has admired the home from its architecture
value and he spoke highly in favor of the Variance which will enhance the overall project. He
said the views will not be impaired, and he mentioned that the neighbors he has spoke to are all
in favor of the project.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hoffman stated he is in support of historic preservation, but he cannot make the
finding of something unique about the property. He expressed concern with what and what has
not been considered historical as far as modifications to the building.
Commissioner Tucker believed that there could be an unusual situation about the project, and he
believed that it has some historical value.
Director Blumenfeld explained that the Commission was reviewing a Variance application and
that a Variance finding could be based upon an historic designation, as the physical improvement
of the property would be constrained, and there would be exceptional or extraordinary
circumstances.
Commissioner Kersenboom requested the square footage of the home before and after
completion of the addition. He believed that the home has historical significance.
Commissioner Tucker believed that the existing roof has historical significance and by extending
it, would maintain its value.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Mr. Young stated that the historic roof as it exists will
remain as is after the flat roof is put on beyond it.
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Director Blumenfeld indicated that Finding No. 1
primarily relates to the property involved and not to the structure. An historic designation makes
the property unique to the area by definition, and if the historical issue could be validated, the
findings might be met. He suggested asking the Historical Society to review the project and
provide input to the Commission.
Chairman Perrotti commented that Variances are difficult due to gray areas involved and
Variances concerning height are controversial in the beach area due to view impacts. He pointed
out in this case, view impacts would be minimal. He expressed concern with precedent setting
approving Variances for height; however the style both with the architectural and design is
unique and may have some historical value. He appreciated the applicant preserving the style of
the structure, but he would like to see further factual historical evidence.
MOTION by Commissioner Kersenboom, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to APPROVE
VAR 01-2 — Variance to exceed the height limit in order to extend and match an existing sloping
roof currently nonconforming to the height limit at 502 the Strand.
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AYES:
Tucker, Kersenboom
NOES:
Hoffman, Chairman Perrotti
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
RECUSE: Pizer
MOTION fails.
MOTION by Chairman Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to CONTINUE
VAR 01-2 — to the next meeting to allow the applicant to gather further information and evidence
of the historical value.
AYES:
Hoffman, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
RECUSE:
Pizer
Commissioner Pizer returned to the dais at 8:43 p.m.
The Commission took a break at 8:43 p.m.
The Commission reconvened at 8:50 p.m.
10. TEXT 01-3 — TEXT AMENDMENT TO SIGN ORDINANCE TO EXEMPT
HOLIDAY DECORATIONS FROM SIGN REGULATIONS.
Staff Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and stated that the change would allow holiday
decorations an exception to the Sign Code. He said a supplemental item has been provided with
additional wording to Section 17.50.040, Section D, stating "temporary holiday decorations (if
displayed by a business, do not contain text or graphics that advertise goods or services)."
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that in the current Sign
Ordinance, temporary banners can be installed no more than 30 days and no more than 90 days
in a calendar year.
Chairman Perrotti expressed concern with temporary holiday decorations displayed for too long
of periods.
Commissioner Pizer pointed out that a holiday decoration could be put up 30 days before a
holiday and 60 days afterwards with no control. He indicated that timing should be set for the
duration of the display of decorations.
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Director Blumenfeld suggested the following wording to Section 17.50.040, Section D, stating
"Temporary holiday decorations if displayed by a business, do not contain text or graphics that
advertise goods or services and are installed for a period no longer than 14 days prior to a
holiday and removed within 3 days after a holiday."
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tucker suggested that the size and amount of banners should be limited.
Commissioner Pizer would like to see clarification as to what is a holiday or event, and he
suggested that a list be provided.
Commissioner Hoffman suggested no more than 30 days of continuous display per year.
MOTION by Chairman Perrotti, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom to CONTINUE
TEXT 01-3 — Text amendment to Sign Ordinance to exempt holiday decorations from sign
regulations, to the next meeting to allow staff to revise the amendment and prepare a list of
holidays, prepare a beginning time and ending time duration for when the appropriate decoration
can be displayed, and define what a decoration is subject to approval.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
11. STAID p° ITEMS
a. Interpretation of the Parking Plan condition regarding the long term lease for off -
site parking for the Beach Cities Christian Fellowship at 730 11t" Street.
Director Blumenfeld gave a brief staff report and stated that the owner has obtained a lease for
15 years, 7 months, with an option to extend three years and an additional option to extend for
five years after that, which would take them beyond the 20-year term.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld explained that if the applicant didn't
renew the lease, they would be in violation of their use permit, and the code enforcement would
be to remove seating.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said that the City is considering
controlling the parking through a sublease to ensure that there is public parking at all times other
than the days the church is in operation on Sundays.
The Commission AGREED BY MINUTE ORDER that the lease terms meet the requirements
under the project approval of 20 years.
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b. Code interpretation of snack shop in connection with business at 49 Pier Avenue.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and stated that the actual operation of the business has
changed. If a business operates as a restaurant but is parked at a less restrictive standard, it is
unfair to businesses which are held to the more restrictive standard. The proposed new use
would require installation of a hood, but the use would otherwise remain as it was previously
approved by Commission. Staff would like clarification as to whether or not the proposed
change would be consistent with a snack shop. He pointed out that if the owner were to park
under the provisions for a restaurant, the in lieu fees would be over $80,000.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that there is not a firm
definition of a restaurant in the zone code other than restaurants serving alcohol and a provision
as it relates to gross sales.. He said that the installation of a cooktop and hood has tended to
constitute a restaurant in the past and is consistent with the building code definition. He also said
there are fire safety requirements that have to be considered when a cooktop and hood are
installed. He further pointed out that businesses that choose to be a restaurant offer more of a
full menu.
Rima Thomasian, owner of Hermosa Cafe, stated that she would like to expand the business with
more choices to offer such as hot sandwiches, and she would like to add a Shawerma grill with a
small range with a hood. She pointed out that there is an exhaust fan already in the building and
she is currently paying for gas each month. She would like to switch from electric to gas
cooking.
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Director Blumenfeld explained that typically, a hood
is required- for cooking, but he would need to investigate this further.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Ms. Thomasian explained that the meat would cook directly on
the Shawerma grill.
Commissioner Tucker noted that the cooking would be subject to the Health Department which
would require a Type I hood since there will be grease present. He also expressed concern with
precedent setting.
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Ms. Thomasian said that a microwave would not be
adequate for her cooking requirements. She also said there is a lot of competition in the area,
and she would like to use the Shawerma grill for cooking which would be unique and bring in
more customers.
Director Blumenfeld said he will check with the Health Department's requirements.
The Commission AGREED BY MINUTE ORDER that there be no hood or stove and that the
cooking device be investigated by staff and certified by the Health Department and qualify
without a cooktop or hood.
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C. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
d. Community Development Department Activity Report of February, 2001.
e. City Council minutes of March 13, 26 and 27, 2001.
12. COMMISSIONER MMISSIONE ITEMS
Chairman Perrotti indicated that he received a letter from Richard and Barbara Schoonover, and
requested that it become part of the file record on the proposed zone change.
Commissioner Tucker addressed Ms. Garland's comments regarding an R2 site being used as a
cell site in an R2 zone. He believed that it should have had a Conditional Use Permit granted
and public hearing, and he believed a cell site is a commercial endeavor.
Director Blumenfeld explained that the project is at St. Cross Church and an application was
submitted last November to install a cellular antenna on the property. The church is located in
the R Zone, and the application was thoroughly reviewed. Staff looked at whether or not this
was a permitted use in the zone and the provisions to approving a text amendment to Section
1746.240. He said that the City Attorney and staff felt that the overriding section that prescribes
the permitted use is Section1746.240, and the use is an accessory use under the Zoning
Ordinance which is permitted in all the zones which has been corrected in the new Zoning
Ordinance text amendment.
He said, however, that the project has undergone several proposed changes and is no longer an
accessory structure as proposed under the modified plan, is no longer guided by 1746.240 and is
no longer permitted under this provision. He indicated that staff will carefully evaluate this
change in the project.
He clarified that Section 17.08.020 relates entirely to home occupations which does not relate to
this issue.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld explained that newspaper racks are
controlled by Public Works, and the Public Works Commission is currently addressing this issue.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld said that he gave the Commission a
status report last month on Learned Lumber which revealed that they were in compliance as of
February.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld stated that on a discretionary permit,
there is a condition regarding rooftop screening, but screening is generally left to the
Commission's discretion.
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18. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom to ADJOURN
the meeting at 9:50 p.m.
No objections, so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action taken by
the Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of April 17,
2001.
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Sam Perrotti Chairman
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