HomeMy WebLinkAbout2001-10-16 PC Minutes Regular MeetingMINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF
HERMOSA BEACH HELD ON OCTOBER 16, 2001, AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Perrotti at 7:05 p.m.
Commissioner Kersenboom led the pledge of allegiance.
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, and Chairman Perrotti
Absent: None
Also Present: Sol Blumenfeld, Community Development Director
Michael Schubach, City Planner
Diane Cleary, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissioner Hoffman requested that the first paragraph on page 11 include the word "ongoing"
with the sentence reading, "Commissioner Hoffinan made a proposal to implement an ongoing
system to have the positions rotating every nine months, beginning with the most senior member as
the Chairman."
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to APPROVE the
September 18, 2001 Planning Commission minutes, as amended. Hearing no objections, Chairman
Perrotti so ordered.
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
Resolutions P.C. 01-28, 01-29 and 01-30. Hearing no objections, Chairman Perrotti so ordered.
5. Item(s) for consideration
None.
6. ORAL/WRITTEN _COMM UN1CAT"IONS
Commissioner Tucker announced that Judy Marks passed away this weekend due to an auto
accident. She was a schoolteacher in the City for over 20 years. He indicated that the funeral
arrangements are pending and further information is available at the Community Resources
Building.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
7. CUP 01-5 — CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR DINING IN
CONJUNCTION WITH A PROPOSED SNACK SHOP USE AT 1225 HERMOSA
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AVENUE, THE COFFEE BEAN AND TEA LEAF (CONTINUED FROM
SEPTEMBER 16, 2001 MEETING).
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and described the project. He reviewed the Commission's
concerns from the last meeting. He stated that staff believes that the project can be approved, and
the Commission has jurisdiction, according to the City Attorney, to make changes as part of the
CUP approval. He also noted that a signature line has been added to the staff report for approval
from the Public Works Department relative to outdoor dining plans.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, :Director Blumenfeld noted that the original intention was to have
the seating fixed; however, the tables could be affixed as well.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld explained that Public Works required
tree planting along the Hermosa Avenue frontage and 13th Streets. He.also said that an additional
trash container has been added on 13"' Street. He further informed that Starbucks has a similar logo
on their umbrellas.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Ben Steckler, consulting planner for the applicant, expressed concern with loitering and vandalism
after hours due to the seats being affixed. He requested that the tables remain affixed but that the
seats be removable and adjustable.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Steckler explained that the tree was moved down to the
existing tree well in front of the Coldstone Creamery. He said there are still six trees proposed as
requested by Public Works.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Mr. Steckler said that doors on the Hermosa Avenue side will be
the entrance to their facility.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Pizer stated he would like to see the table and chairs and umbrella on the eastern
most position on the 13th Street removed, and that the planter be moved over to the west. He also
would like to see the two umbrellas removed on Hermosa Avenue. He said this would allow better
access for pedestrian traffic.
Commissioner Hoffman agreed.
Crommissioner Tucker also agreed and believed that both the tables and chairs on Hermosa Avenue
should be fixed and that the tables on 13th Street be fixed with removable seats to be brought in
evenings. He further would like to see the trash container on l 3" Street be moved closer to the east.
He also suggested smaller umbrellas on Hermosa Avenue.
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Commissioner Kersenboom and Chairman Perrotti agreed.
MOTION by Commissioner Pizer, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to APPROVE CUP 01-5 —
Conditional Use Permit for outdoor dining in conjunction with a proposed snack shop use at 1225
Hermosa Avenue, The Coffee Bean And Tea Leaf, with the following conditions:
That the table and two chairs on the eastern portion on 13"' Street be removed and the planter be
moved to the west
o That the umbrellas on the eastern portion on 13`' Street be removed and the two umbrellas on
Hermosa Avenue be removed
• That the tables be fixed on 13th Street and the tables and chairs both be fixed on Hermosa
Avenue
That the trash container be moved on the western side of the traffic signal box on 13th Street
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
8. CON 01-4/PDP 01-15 — CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PRECISE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ONE-STORY 3,600 SQUARE FOOT
BANK BUILDING WITH A DRIVE-THRU TELLER LANE, AND ADOPTION OF AN
ENVIRONMENTAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT 1401 PACIFIC COAST
HIGHWAY, UNION BANK OF CALIFORNIA.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and described the request. He said that the project meets all
the first tier standards for SPA 8, exceeds the standards for landscaping and more than meets the
parking requirements for combined uses of the restaurant and the bank building. He also said that
staff believes there is good internal circulation on the project. He further informed that Cal Trans
did not look favorably on the idea of a deceleration lane, and that addition of the lane would
preclude providing gateway signage identified in the City's Downtown Improvement Plan and
compress the site and eliminate all of the landscaping on that portion of the property. He said staff
believes that the project conforms to the requirements of the zone and is a compatible use for the
site and the area.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld explained the Trip Generation
Comparison calculations shown on the chart in the report describe the prior use trip generation for
the gas station as a very a high trip generator compared to the proposed use.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld stated that the City Attorney has advised the
following wording in Condition No. 6 of the Resolution:
"The applicant shall through sublease convey to the City for long term purposes, the 15' by 15' area
as identified on project plans for City uses as a downtown gateway sign and landscaping."
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In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that the site is one lot under one
ownership with the parking being developed to balance parking needs between the two uses. The
parking will not be restricted to either the Union Bank use or IHOP use. He also explained that the
shopping center is held under a different Ownership. fie inforred that ifth6 City wanted to place
restrictions on the operation of the parking lot, they should apply to both uses on the lot; however,
the applicant for the bank project cannot reasonably be expected to improve both parking areas
since they only control the bank site through long-term lease.
In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Director Blumenfeld explained that the City cannot
require that private parking be made available for public use.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld said that there will be fewer curb cuts on
Pier Avenue and Pacific Coast Highway resulting from this project.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Steve Olshan, Olshan and Associates, stated there will not be any restriction on the parking between
IHOP and Union Bank of California. He explained the bank hours as Monday through Thursday 9
a.m. to 5 p.m., Friday 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., Saturday 9 a.m. to 2 p.m and closed on Sunday. He said that
one curb cut will be lost on Pier Avenue and two curb cuts on Pacific Coast Highway. He
explained that in order to accommodate the drop in elevation on the site from Pacific Coast
Highway to Pier Avenue and to accommodate the handicap access, they have dropped the building
approximately 2.5 feet. He said that the 15' x 15' area has been left open for a future monument
sign.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Mr. Daniel Reza, VP Union Bank of California, explained
that the driveway coming out onto to Pier Avenue will allow for right and left turns, but the two
drive -through tellers will be right turn only.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Olshan stated that the ATM machine will be in the front,
and the air conditioning and equipment on the roof will be hidden.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld stated that the Public Works Department
will look at the plan relative to drainage and the alignment and grading issues.
Mr. Olshan explained that the two surfaces will meet and will flow properly as shown on the
preliminary grading plan.
Director Blumenfeld informed that the property owner controls both the IHOP and Union Bank
sites, not the applicant, and it would be unreasonable to require that the applicant implement any
recommendations regarding the IHOP site.
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Commissioner Tucker believed that a deceleration lane would be hazardous. He said that the
project will be very compatible with the City, and he would like to see the 15' x 15' section used as
a gateway entrance to the City.
Director Blumenfeld stated that staff has requested that a conduit be provided for both irrigation and
electrical.
Commissioner Pizer stated that the project will be very nice, and he agreed that a deceleration lane
would be hazardous and use up the space for the City signage.
Commissioner Hoffman agreed.
Chairman Perrotti agreed and said that landscaping is much needed on Pacific Coast Highway.
MOTION by Commission Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom to APPROVE CUP
01-4/PDP 01-15 — Conditional Use Permit and Precise Development Plan to allow the construction
of a one-story 3,600 square foot bank building with a drive-thru teller lane, and adoption of an
Environmental Negative Declaration at 1401 Pacific Coast Highway, Union Bank of California,
with the recommendations that both tenants have use of the parking, that the signage include both
IHOP and Union Bank and that Condition No. 6 be changed as recommended by staff.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
9. CON 01-8/PDP 01-9 — CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PRECISE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN AND VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.26262 FOR A TWO -UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 300 HERMOSA AVENUE.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
City Planner Schubach gave a staff report and explained that the project was originally proposed for
three units, but the new plans now only propose two units. He reviewed the following problems:
• Trellises covering over the open space decks
• One of the balconies encroaching approximately 6 inches into the side yard
• Potential bootleg problem with the first level rooms
• Two encroachments into the front setback
He said that conditions have been added to correct these problems.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, City Planner Schubach stated that a condition will be added
requiring only 3/4 baths on the subterranean level.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
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Jerry Compton, stated that they are close to the maximum lot coverage due to a one-story element
providing a view corridor for the rear unit. He also said that only one parking space will be lost on
the street. He further explained that there is a 5 foot setback for about 50 percent of the rear
building for a nicer entry access along the side, and the balcony is projecting out a foot, which just
appears to be encroaching into the setback. He said that the trellis covering the balconies is not 50
percent coverage and adds a lot to the look of the building. He indicated that three 36 inch trees
will be provided and the stairs coming up from the lower level are open, and access from the garage
to the upper floor is necessary. He suggested that if a deed restriction were required, he would like
to see a full bath at the subterranean level. He pointed out that the City allows a stair in the front
yard that starts 3 feet from the property line and a guardrail above 42 inches would be needed. He
said if the 42 inches is above existing grade, there would not be a problem, as the project is stepping
up 18 inches already. He further questioned removing the deck at the lower level and said that the
unenclosed deck would be a nicer element versus enclosing the area with a bay window.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Mr. Compton said that in the front, the trellis covers
approximately 55 square feet of the balcony which is slightly over 50 percent and on the rear, most
of the balcony is covered by trellis.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Mr. Compton stated that the trellises are 3' x 6'.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld explained that the Zoning Ordinance is
explicit about steps on grade and coverage of open space. • He also pointed out that the building
would need to be reduced in size only slightly to meet the zoning requirements.
Larry Delas stated he lives next door to the project and requested that some of the trees in the front
yard be saved. He also expressed disappointment with the original home being removed.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tucker stated he would like to see trees on the surveys in the future to determine if
any can be saved.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld reviewed the open space requirements,
and the proposal does not meet the requirement for usable open space.
Commissioner Tucker agreed that the size of the project could be reduced and supports staff's
interpretation of trellises. He also said the building is more attractive with just two units and
appreciates the view corridor.
Commissioner Hoffman stated that the intention is to reduce bulk of projects and stated he is
inclined to approve the project as conditioned in the proposed Resolution.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld suggested that Condition No. 1 d be
reworded to state, "The trellises over the second level balconies shall be made conforming."
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Chairman Perrotti indicated that a letter has been received from Diane Streett who is opposed to the
project. He expressed approval of the project with conditions as modified in the staff report and
also expressed approval of the deed restriction. He suggested adding a condition to save as many
trees as possible.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
CON 01-8/PDP 01-9 — Conditional Use Permit, Precise Development Plan and Vesting Tentative
Parcel Map No. 26262 for a two -unit condominium at 300 Hermosa Avenue, with the amendment
to Condition No. I d as stated and that the downstairs bath be 3/4.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
The Commission took a break at 8:45 p.m.
The Commission reconvened at 8:58 p.m.
10. VAR 01-3 — VARIANCE TO PARKING AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO
ALLOW A 750 SQUARE FOOT SECOND STORY ADDITION TO A DWELLING
WITH ONE PARKING SPACE AND A LESS THAN THREE FOOT SIDE YARD
SETBACK AT 55 5TH COURT.
Staff Recommended Action: To continue to November 20, 2001 meeting.
Commissioner Pizer recused himself at 8:59 p.m.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and stated it is staff s recommendation is that the applicant
provide a complete submittal that includes a survey and also the Commission give some direction
relative to the merits of the Variance request to help provide direction both to the applicant and
staff. He further described the project.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that refunds are given if a project
does not go forward and no work as been done by staff.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Jack Wood explained that there is no parking available on the property currently and a parking
space is proposed to be built by demolishing the living room. He said that the lot is very small at
1200 square feet and he reviewed the setbacks, and a Variance is needed for five items. He stated
that a remodel would be a reasonable request and would be more feasible for the applicant, and said
it would not be built over height, would not be built closer than the setbacks and side yard, and
survey will be provided. He also said that the neighbors are in favor of the project. He would like
to know if this remodel could be approved and would be feasible before more monies are spent.
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In response to Commissioner Kersenboom, Mr. Wood informed that the addition on top of the
existing building would conform to all setbacks and height requirements.
Robert Vile, stated that the home is non -conforming and tearing it down and building a three-story
home would not be logical in today's market. He said one parking space will be provided which is
not presently there and no street parking would be destroyed. He said the advantages would be
desirable for the neighborhood. He also said he does not have a problem with the side yards.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Hoffman stated that the application is incomplete and he is not prepared to address
the project at this time.
Commissioner Tucker stated he has not read the packet and stated that the request should be
continued.
Commissioner Kersenboom agreed.
Chairman Perrotti agreed that a survey should be done, but studying and reviewing the information
available at this time may be beneficial to the applicant. He believed that the project is unique and
that the request is better than the existing condition with one parking space less on the street. He
believed that he could approve the Variance.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Tucker, to CONTINUE to the
November 20, 2001 meeting, VAR 01-3 — Variance to parking and setback requirements to allow a
750 square foot second story addition to a dwelling with one parking space and a less than three
foot side yard setback at 55 5"' Court.
AYES: Hoffman, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: Pizer
ABSTAIN:. None
Commissioner Pizer returned to the dais at 9:20 p.m.
11. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.26479 FOR A TWO -UNIT CONDOMINIUM AT
153 LYNDON STREET.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said request.
City Planner Schubach gave a staff report and stated that the slope of the driveway exceeds the
maximum 12.5 percent slope and a condition has been added to meet this requirement. He also said
the building separates at only 6 feet 9 inches at one point and a condition has been added to meet
the 8 foot requirement. He also said that the lot coverage is at 66.1 percent and should fall within
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the 65 percent to be consistent with the rest of the block. He suggested adding a condition to meet
this requirement.
Commissioner Tucker questioned the trellis covering the entire balcony on the rendering.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Elizabeth Srour, representing the applicant, stated that the intent of the application is to comply with
the code, and an effort will be made to comply with the 65 percent lot coverage requirements. She
also said that the building separation can be corrected and the rear driveway slope can also be
corrected. She further informed that the trellis will not remain because of the 50 percent open to
sky requirement.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Tucker stated that the 65 percent lot coverage is justified to allow compatibility with
other projects. He said he would like to see more architectural features and difference in color in
the stucco, particularly on the north elevation, to break up the mass of the building.
Commissioner Hoffman agreed.
Chairman Perrotti agreed with having more architectural enhancements as suggested by
Commissioner Tucker. He suggested that applicants be informed earlier in the process concerning
staff recommendations with lot coverage. He also said that the lot coverage is only over by 1.1
percent and adjustments can be made without totally changing the project.
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
Conditional Use Permit, Precise Development Plan and Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No. 26479
for a two -unit condominium project at 153 Lyndon Street, and that the lot coverage not exceed 65
percent and that the trellis size be reduced to be only 50 percent of the balcony for the open space
requirement, and to provide more architectural features and color variations on the exterior.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
12. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PRECISE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND VESTING
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.26483 FOR A TWO -UNIT CONDOMINIUM
CONVERSION PROJECT AT 1015 & 1017 17TH STREET.
Staff Recommended Action: To continue to November 20, 2001 meeting.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and described the project. He stated that any conversion to
a condominium must conform to all of the requirements of a Condominium Ordinance including
height. He said Staff questioned whether the slope can be considered a convex slope, and staff
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believes that there is not enough information provided to make a clear determination. Staff has
asked for some additional supporting documentation and additional grades on both sides of the
property to help make this determination. He stated that staff is requesting that this item be
continued and if the Commission decides to approve the project, the findings under Section
17.22.160 would have to be approved.
Commissioner Tucker questioned if there is an easement for the egress from the driveway.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that the issues that pertain to the
Building Code are not within the jurisdiction of the Commission. He said, however, that the
Commission could require conformity to issues regarding the Zoning and Condominium
Ordinances.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing. ,
Elizabeth Srour, representing the applicant, stated that they are not prepared for discussions this
evening and they will provide more information with regard to the elevations, grades, etc., to
support the existing height. She also informed that there are joint ingress and egress easements
across both properties.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Pizer, to CONTINUE to the
November 20, 2001 meeting, Conditional Use Permit, Precise Development Plan and Vesting
Tentative Parcel Map No. 26483 for a two -unit condominium conversion project at 1015 & 1017
17th Street.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
13. CON 01-15 — VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.25351 FOR A TWO -UNIT
CONDOMINIUM AT 322 & 326 OCEAN VIEW AVENUE.
Staff Recommended Action: To approve said Vesting Tentative Parcel Map.
City Planner Schubach gave a staff report and stated that the Vesting Tentative Parcel Map expired
before the applicant requested a final map.
Commissioner Tucker noted that applicants need to pay more attention to keeping their files current.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing..
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MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to APPROVE
CON 01-15 — Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No. 25351 for a two -unit condominium at 322 & 326
Ocean View Avenue.
AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Tucker, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
HEARING(S)
14. NR 01-3 — ADDITION AND REMODEL TO A NONCONFORMING BUILDING
RESULTING IN A GREATER THAN 50 PERCENT INCREASE IN VALUATION
AT 1124 1ST STREET.
Staff Recommended Action: To direct staff as deemed appropriate.
Commissioner Kersenboom recused himself at 9:50 p.m.
City Planner Schubach gave a staff report and reviewed the following staff recommendations:
• Determine by minute order whether this project qualifies for small lot status and thereby a
reduction in required open space.
• Determine by minute order whether this project may exceed the maximum exterior wall removal
of 30 percent.
• Continue this request with required re -noticing and that a variance request be included for
exceeding the maximum valuation of 100 percent OR
• Continue this matter to a date certain and require revised plans in compliance with all zoning
standards and with the Planning Commission's determination regarding open space and exterior
wall removal.
He stated that staff could not find that the project qualifies for a small lot status and also noted that
the percent increase in valuation has been brought down to 109 percent.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Jack Wood stated that they met with staff and informed them that they do not intend to be over 100
percent in increase in valuation or over, coverage and will provide 300 square feat of oa pen living
space, A plan was submitted to con(orna to this, and he questioned staffs calculations, He also said
that they are not asking for a Variance and they intend to conform,
Director Blumenfeld stated that the project does not conform to the requirements based on the lot
size for a small lot. The Commission under the Zoning Ordinance has discretion to make a
determination based on a 10 percent margin whether the project conforms.
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John and Rebecca Mason, applicants, stated that their intention is to remodel the house, providing
more room for their family. They need a garage, another shower and more storage room. Mrs.
Mason further expressed concern with the size of the house and safety concerns. She said that they
never expect to enlarge more than 100 percent.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Director Blumenfeld stated that staff will sit down with the
applicant and review the calculations and staff could then provide a recommendation to the
Commission.
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Mr. Wood agreed to bring the project into less than 100
percent increase in valuation based on staff s calculations.
Commissioner Pizer stated that he would use the variation of 10 percent to determine that the
project is a small lot status.
Commissioner Tucker stated that he does not have a problem with the small lot status; however, the
amount of wall removal could be a concern.
Chairman Perrotti noted that the lot is only 18 square feet over the 2101 square feet qualification
and believed that the project can qualify as a small lot status per code. He also said that he does not
have a problem with the exterior wall removal of 41 percent, and he would like to see staff work
with the applicant further with the calculations. He would like to see the project continue to move
along.
The Commission AGREED BY MINUTES ORDER that the project qualifies as a small lot, that
the applicant work with staff with all calculations, and that staff bring back a Resolution at the next
meeting if the project can be approved by the Commission.
Commissioner Kersenboom returned to the dais at 10:13 p.m.
15. TEXT 01-7 — SIGN ORDINANCE STUDY ON CURRENT PROHIBITION OF
SIDEWALK SIGNS (CONTINUED FROM SEPTEMBER 18, 2001 MEETING).
Staff Recommended Action: To continue to November 20, 2001 meeting.
Director Blumenfeld stated that staff is requesting that this item be continued to allow additional
time to present a method for a cost estimate.
Chairman Perrotti opened the public hearing.
Chairman Perrotti closed the public hearing.
MOTION by Commissioner Hoffman, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom, to CONTINUE
TEXT 01-7 — Sign ordinance study on current prohibition of sidewalk signs.
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AYES: Hoffman, Pizer, Kersenboom, Chairman Perrotti
NOES: None
ABSENT: Tucker
ABSTAIN: None
16. STAFF ITEMS
Commissioner Hoffman recused himself at 10:15 p.m.
a. Appeal of Community Development Director's decision on modifications at 817
Monterey Boulevard.
Director Blumenfeld gave a staff report and noted that changes to the exterior facade and submitted
revised exterior elevations by the applicant has been determined to require Planning Commission
review.
In response to Chairman Perrotti, Director Blumenfeld explained that if the Commission determined
that the changes were not minor, the owner would have to modify their use permit or alternatively,
the owner could construct what was originally approved on the plan. He further explained that the
planners inspect at the end of the construction project to verify conformance to approved exterior
design of the building. He also explained that the building inspector does not look for the
architectural changes since that is the responsibility of the Planning Division.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld indicated that it is possible that the
applicant made a submittal to the Building Division and had it approved without a review by the
Planning Division.
Chairman Perrotti believed that the changes are a major modification.
Commissioner Tucker stated that the changes look better, but are considered a major modification.
Commissioner Kersenboom also believed that changes look nice, but are considered a major
modification.
Commissioner Pizer stated that the changes are significant.
In response to Commissioner Pizer, Director Blumenfeld stated that if it is determined that the
changes are major, the applicant can be required to modify their use permit and modify their plan
approved. He said there would be a cost involved, however.
The Commission AGREED BY MINUTES ORDER that the changes are not a minor modification
and that the original CUP approval and PDP approval require modification.
Commissioner Hoffman returned to the dais at 10:33 p.m.
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b. Appeal of Community Development Director's decision on modifications at 1419
Monterey Boulevard.
City Planner Schubach gave a staff report and stated that the building is not consistent with what
was originally approved by the Planning Commission. He said the riglets are missing, the tile roof
was put on a different manner and not the same type that was shown, and the tops of the chimneys
were not put on.
Phil Raider stated that they propose to make minor modifications to the elevations on the building
and to comply to what was originally approved. They wish to add decoration around the chimney
and that the tile roof be approved as installed.
Commissioner Tucker stated that the chimney top cannot be the type that is proposed to be used
unless it is approved by the manufacturer. He also expressed concern with cutting into the stucco.
Commissioner Hoffman believed that the proposed changes would be considered a major
modification.
Commissioner Kersenboom agreed that the changes would be considered a major modification.
Commissioner Tucker agreed.
The Commission AGREED BY MINUTES ORDER that the changes are not a minor modification
and that the applicant submit an application as a modification to the CUP and PDP and bring back a
design consistent with the original approval.
C. Tentative future Planning Commission agenda.
d. Community Development Department Activity Report of August, 2001.
e. City Council minutes of September 11, 2001.
17. COMMISSIONER l"1'EMS
In response to Commissioner Hoffman, Director Blumenfeld stated that staff will present examples
of trellises in terms of both conditions.
Commissioner Hoffman noted that people may want a full bath off of a rumpus room, especially
living closer to the beach. He said a deed restriction may be all that would be necessary to
discourage a bootleg condition.
Director Blumenfeld explained that Code Enforcement generally becomes an issue with trying to
prove a case on whether or not there is a bootleg condition.
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Commissioner Tucker suggested further investigation on saving trees in the future.
Commissioner Hoffman said he doesn't see an equitable way when it comes to saving trees and also
view impacts become a concern.
Chairman Perrotti also noted that it depends on the lot.
In response to Commissioner Tucker, Director Blumenfeld stated that he will investigate a
restaurant use and restrictions on parking relative to an ATM and the operation of the facility being
consistent with the project approval.
18. ADJOIIRNMEW
MOTION by Commissioner Tucker, seconded by Commissioner Kersenboom to ADJOURN the
meeting at 11:10 p.m.
No objections, so ordered.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and complete record of the action taken by the
Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at the regularly scheduled meeting of October 16, 2001.
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Sates Perrotti, Chairman
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