HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 1977_09_12( -INUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 1]77, AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order at 7:32 p.m . by Chairman Fritz.
ROLL CALL
Present: Comm. Bishop, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger, Schubert , Chmn. Fritz
Absent: None
Also Present: Rod Merl, Director of Planning & Environmental Services
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Comm. Rosemberger, seconded by Comm. Isgreen, to approve with correction ,
Page 2, paragraph 3: "Charles Pinney ... 11
Ayes:
Noes:
Absent:
Abstain:
Comm. Bishop, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger, Chmn . Fritz
None
None
Comm. Schubert
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
Motion by Comm. Rosenberger, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve Resolution P.C. 77-46 ,
as submitted.
Ayes:
Noes:
Absent:
Abstain:
Comm. Bisho p, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger
None
None
Comm. Schubert, Chmn. Fritz, as he was not involved in the original decision.
COASTAL ISSUES IDENTIFICATION
Mr. Merl provided the Huntington Beach Draft, Santa Barbara issues as abstracted from
their draft; and Chapter 3, Coastal Resources Planning & Management Policies , as requested .
He said staff sent out the same letter as before, to the previous recipients as well as
to additional organizations; it was advertized in the papers and also included i n the
paper as a news item. He explained the scope and significance of the local Coastal Plan
to be developed.
Chmn. Fritz explained the purpose of the public hearing to the audience present, and
read the summaries of key issues available from the sources listed above .
Public hearing opened 7:52 p.m.
Mrs. Grant Isgree, 726 Prospect, on bahalf of the Hermosa Beach Women's Club , requested
that air pollution, noise pollution, and parking problems be ·addressed . She also inquired
as to the reason that telephone wires are not required to be undergrounded in conduit .
Chmn . Fritz said he believes telephone wires are exempt because they are low voltage .
Comm. Isgreen said the difference is that wire in conduit can be pulled out and repaired .
Chmn. Fritz directed staff to send a letter to General Telephone inquiring as to the
thinking behind this policy and what sort of problems they are experiencing with it .
So ordered.
Dennis Sowers , 204 Strand, said inherent in any plan for greater access should be a plan
to limit vehicular traffic, to protect the environment, and minimize the impact on people
who live in the eara . He requested that a noise control standard be developed and included
in the plan; and suggested that bussing to the beach from an inland parking area might
mitigate the problem.
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Jim Fucile, Manhattan Beach, and businessman in Hermosa Beach, said he concurs with the
views expressed in the Chamber of Commerce letter and would express some additional ideas
that are shared by other Chamber members; since Hermosa Beach does not have an industrial
base, nor a sufficient commercial tax base, he advocates orienting Hermosa Beach toward
the tourist trade with first-class restaurants, motels and shops. He said tourist-oriented
motels would provide transportation to and from the beach area.
Mrs. Isgreen cited the Biltmore site as an excellent location for a hotel with underground
parking.
Public hearing closed 8:15 p.m.
Ensuing discussion resulted in the following issues and concerns to be considered in
addition to the materials provided: Noise and air pollution, traffic problems, tourist
trade, railroad right-of-way, Biltmore site; accomplishments of the city in already
providing access to the beach area; cost factors, feasibility, and degradation of
environment.
Chmn. Fritz requested that staff compile a list of suggestions to date, drawing the
documents provided, the minutes of the two public hearings, the 14 points submitted
by Comm. Loosli, and the list of issues to be compiled by the Chamber of Commerce; to
be returned to the Development Subcommittee for their consideration, together with
a cost effectiveness analysis. So ordered.
PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE FROM C-1 TO R-3
To include the block bounded by 2nd Street, Palm Drive, First Street, and Hermosa Avenue.
Mr. Merl pointed out the area on the map, surrounded by limited Commercial, multi-family,
and R-P, and called attention to the statistics, map and additional data in the packets ~
Comm. Rosenberger suggested that it be considered as an R-2 change, as well .
Dennis Sowers, 204 Strand, said he has a vested interest in the area; two concerns are
1) density that can be developed on the property, and 2) since about half of the lots
are multiple dwellings of four or more units, a large percentage of the properties
would be non-conforming if designated R-2. He said he would like to see the zoning
consistent with the General Plan and favors the proposed zone change.
Chmn. Fritz said many would be con-conforming anyway because they do not have the
required parking.
Public hearing closed 8:59 p.m.
Chmn. Fritz said that changing this one block to R-2 would result in spot zoning. Conm.
Schubert concurred.
Comm. Rosenberger said there is
traffic problems; he feels that
appearance, and add to traffic.
parking spaces on a lot, with a
dense development in the area generally, with parking
R-3 would further enlarge theproblems of lot coverage
He felt that R-2 would encourage one unit with two
difference of one story.
Chmn. Fritz entered into the record a letter from William W. Woodbury protesting the
zone change proposal.
Motion by Comm. Loosli , seconded by Comm. Peirce, to rezone one b 1 ock, bounded by 2nd
Street, Palm Drive, First Street, and Hermosa Avenue, from C-1 to R-3 .
and
and
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Ayes:
Noes:
Absent:
Comm. Schubert, Chmn. Fritz
Comm. Bishop, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger
None
The motion failed.
Chmn. Fritz referred the item to the Zoning Subcommittee to formulate a plan which presumes
that the R-3 zoning changes will pass, in which case the area could encompass surrounding
blocks .in which the change is feasible. He asked that staff prepare a feasibility study,
and plan to advertise the zone change following resolution of the R-3 zone changes.
PROPOSED NEW ARTICLE 11.5, OFF-STREET PARKING
Mr. Merl said the proposed Article 11.5 is a consolidation into one ordinance of all
requirements for parking, in logical sequence.
Public hearing opened 10:14 p.m. No one wished to be heard. Closed 10:14 p.m.
Motion by Comm. Schubert, seconded by Comm. Rosenberger, to approve Proposed Article 11.5,
as modified:
Section 1150. Major City Street: to read 11 arterial or collector street ... 11
Section 1152.2 Add (c) cleaners, and (d) laundromats
Section 1153. (last sentence) Tendem parking spaces access may be from an alley or
private driveway, or any street not designated as a major street.
Section 1154. (B) 11 Parking requirements for buildings or structures used for conmercial
or i ndus trial purposes ... 11
Sec ti on 1157 (A) 1 i ne 4 --de 1 ete the word 11 bus i ness 11
Ayes:
Noes:
Absent:
Comm. Bishop, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger, Schubert, Chmn. Fritz
None
None
Motion by Comm. Schubert, seconded by Comm. Bishop, to adopt Resolution 77-47 approving
proposed Article 11.5, Parking Ordinance, in order to update and clarify city code and
to achieve greater consistency with the General Plan. Public hearing was held and
appropriate advertising was done. The proposed changes were reviewed by subcommittee
and by the Commission as a whole, were modified at this meeting and are now recommended
to the City Council.
Ayes:
Noes:
Absent:
Corm,. Bishop, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger, Schubert, Chmn. Frtiz
None
None
Comm. Rosenberger requested that a copy be supplied to the Chamber of Commerce.
SOCIAL ELEMENT
Mr. Merl recommended continuation as the subcommittee did not convene .
Comm. Schubert said he had available a body of materials on proposed uses for Pier Avenue
School which he will deliver to Mr. Merl.
Public hearing opened 10:18 p.m. No one wished to be heard. Closed 10:18 p.m.
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Chmn. Fritz continued the item on recommendation of staff. So ordered .
PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT
Mr. Merl said the proposed rev1s1on to the zoning ordinance would change the processing
procedure for items for City Council agenda by changing the processing agent from City
Clerk to City Manager, and was submitted by the City Council .
Chmn. Fritz said he believes the most efficient work is done by Planning staff and City
Clerk; items going through the City Manager's office are handled less efficiently .
Comm. Rosenberger cited examples of specific items delayed by the City Manager's office ;
and objected to giving additional powers to an appointed official rather than the elected
official.
Comm. Peirce suggested requesting background material from the City Council as to why
this change is considered necessary. Corrms. Bishop and Schubert concurred . Comm. Peirce
subsequently suggested rewriting the proposed change of process.
Public hearing opened 10:29 p.m.
Mrs. Grant Isgreen, 726 Prospect, said Barbara Fleming is an elected official and she
sees no reason why her duties should be changed; the City Manager's office is so busy
he cannot take on more work; and she feels this proposed change is completely unfair
to the citizens of Hermosa Beach.
Public hearing closed 10:31 p.m., and continued until a response is received to a letter
from the Planning Commission to the City Council asking how this proposed change has
come about. So ordered by Chmn. Fritz.
FINAL TRACT MAP #32969 --447 HERONDO STREET
Final Tract Map 32969 for a 3O-unit condominium project at 447 Herondo Street .
Motion by Comm. Schubert, seconded by Comm. Peirce, to approve final tract map 32969
for subject project. The consistency of the final map with the tentative map has been
attested to by the City Engineer and by the County Engineer .
Ayes:
Noes:
Absent:
Corrm. Bishop, Isgreen, Loosli, Peirce, Rosenberger, Schubert, Chmn. Fritz
None
None
NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS
Mr. Merl presented materials concerning neighborhood councils as established in the City
of Simi Valley for the purpose of increasing citizen participation in city functions.
Commission members expressed concern as to whether this would operate as effectively
in a city as small as Hermosa Beach, and whether it would cause a duplication of effort
for staff, although they are concerned with encouraging citizen participation . Cornn.
Fritz requested that staff consider the possibility of establishing a pilot program,
or of drafting a program under the existing Neighborhood Watch, with a study of cost
and effectiveness. So ordered.
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Report on joint Planning Commission and Improvement Commission subcommittee meeting in
memo of September 6, 1977.
In regard to the memo of 8-25-77 to the City Prosecutor, Comm. Rosenberger strongly
protested the lack of response to complaints made on numerous violations, citing in
particular the complaints made on Hermosa Car Wash and Cal Auto. He said the response
just received, after 21 months, regarding 1000 Pacific Coast Highway, states that the
City Prosecutor needs additional information and would like the item to be reheard.
He said the Planning is getting no backup .1whatsoever ,from the City Council indirectly
or from the City Prosecutor directly; that of a list of 30 cases entered by the Building
Department in one year, none have been resolved. He said he does not intend to hear
any further matters coming before this commission until the Commissions receive some
kind of support, and he feels citizens are not being fairly treated when some go through
city procedures with considerable expenditure of time and money, while others do as they
please without meeting the requirements of city ordiancnes.
Chmn. Fritz said unless the city pursues a course of putting the force of law behind
decisions made then the Commissions are accomplishing nothing.
Comm. Loosli noted that ticketing for trash and sign violations has been authorized
but the tickets have not been provided.
Comm. Rosenberger said he would attend the City Council meeting Tuesday, September 13,
and requested that the other Commissioners attend.
COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
Chmn. Fritz asked about the disposition of conditional use permit reviews. Mr . Merl
said Juicy Lucy has applied for sign approval to the Improvement Commission .
Chmn. Fritz and Comm. Isgreen said they had visited Carwell's and saw no evidence of
signing for customer parking. Mr. Merl said that staff would work with the business
to get it corrected.
Mr. Merl said he ahs requested the meeting with the City Council, and also that they
be held periodically.
Comms. Bishop and Fritz will be in San Francisco for the League of California Cities
meeting on September 26th. Mr. Merl stressed the importance of all other commissioners
being present at the next meeting.
Mr. Merl said the City Attorney authorized the sign on city property to the Improvement
Commission (Casablanca).
Comm. Isgreen said he has requested that the Building Code regarding setbacks be placed
on the next agenda, for possible change.
Mr. Merl suggested that reasonable time limits be set for meetings, and for testimony
in public hearings to the City Attorney.
Meeting adjourned 11:30 p.m.
I hereby certify
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CERT! FI CATION
that the foregoing minutes were approved by
n September 26, 1977.
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