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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_70.03.16 UnsignedhAIa.UTFS OF TAIE REGLSiR MEETLNG OF THE PLANNING COMMISW SIGN JEELD I THE 00"UN U, CHAMBERS, 00Y HALT,, HERMOS- L B ACII, ON i OND �Y, LT 16, 196; AT P :3Q P. M. MEETII+IC C.�ALLED TO ORDER A-T 7.-37 Ps kil. BY VICE CHAIRMAT14 S'TABLERr ROLL OALL -Present: C;oraj i. Collis, Himmei. Mulfingp-r, Stable, Toole, Vkatters. Absent-. Chairman Noble. Motion by Comm. Matters, seconded by Comm. Collis to approve the minutes of the February 16, 1970 nesting. Motion by Ca► an. ie��alki.ngerz secc�rad by Comm — watters to apparove the minutes of the March 2, 1970 meeting. Cowin. I.41pn el abstained. motion by Comm. Watters, seconded by Comm. M ai ftBager to approve Resolutson P. C. 154-767. AYES: Comm. Mulfinger, 'Watters, Chairman Stabler. NOES: Inane ABSTAIN: Comm. Collis, Himmel, Toole. ABSENT: comm. Noble. P,escjutjtin Motion by Comm. Collis, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger to approve Resolution B. C. .154-768 as amended by the audition. of C®1 zones. AYES: Comm,, Collis, Mulfinger, Watters and Chairman Stabler. NOES: None ABSTAIN: Comm. Himmel, Toole. ABSENT: Comm. Noble. The now Planning Coanmissioner, Mr. Charles Tool--, was welcomed to the Conur-is- sion. Motion by Comm..Watters, seconded by Comsn. Mu ffiager to approve Resolution B. C. 15 —769 as amended by the addition of "specialized spewing and recrea- ttonal equipment" . ASKS: Ccjscn. Collis, Himmel, Mulfinger, Toole, �lattaa^s, and Chair -man Stabler NOES: None ABSENT: Comm. Noble. n 2 3ueyv'c;' ,zjv w. uona,.Tlionauvwi rsae 2E16E..- Foa:e�s 1,ot at 2901 PacUic Coast .1- ighway. C4.4y pia-r,neh Q'awidEd informa--d thr, C;01,WAi53iV,1 t;tat mr. Polak had complied with al# of txe conditions, inspob ee at th-a hsearb.nq excerxt: which =ncenned cvr --;night parking or storage 04 �reh ales �33°: cC�jG3�3fa3C Sot, a, d 5. a future ca; ee~ merit witch F ublic Wisrrks regayfling placement of standard curb, gutter and driveway on 3W, Street: to conjunction with the construction of sidewalks on Pacific Coast Highway. k i->cusston fcxllovred relative to the reasons why people vtere parking in the lot merest of the alley. Mr. Polak explained that the parking signs had been installed, but were moved. He said it was hard to determine to whom cars parked in the agea belonged, and although he had cried to er_�orca the condf.tion, 136 didn't sash to create trouble with his neighboring businesses. He safcl he hiad tried to clean the are, several times, and lair. Crawford agreed that there were: no old or dilapidated cars parked there, now. cizaiman Stabler asked Mr. Polak, with resrs3ct tc Cond€tion �.%g if he would be trilling to make an a=reernent to Tnovia, cub- and gutters on 3Uth Street if apnroachad by someone on the city staff, and he agreed that he would. C or,-j n. Collis asked when the block wall at 3UQ 3 Pacific Coast. Htghway would be completed, and Mr. Polak a,: -.pained thct the contractor had ibocorle ill, a41 he was reluctant to Ixave sm-n.e.one else ccmPletu. it, and Ile hoped it Would be Completed this week. Motion by Comm. `Poole r sec�ax€te�l I-% C GE gym. ivat ti3z"s to errant tie C®�:ditLana? Use permit pcarX:' a ently provided that all conditions ortgtnalky iaaposr.d in the 0-onditional [Tse pe-rnrit which are still applicable are ,can=plted with. Aj,fES: Comm. Collis, Himmel, Ivi'ul,finger, Toole, Watters, and Chairman Stabler. �I43BS: bone ABS EXT: Comm. Noble. Discss�sit•. of P112011-ci{c BO—V r11c® Ps iw es City Planner Crawford introduced Mr. Kexn, it Green, District Administrator of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Boards and commented that because of the in -umber of ziew counmissioners he had felt some background knowledge on A.B.C. policies and controls might be helpful, the which he hoped Mr. Green could supply. 13e fur- ther indicated that the Planning Commission's role has been to control outlets by v;say of Conditional Use Permits as a zoning matter, and its primary consideration is not hovi many outlets Neximosa has, btst hmom? the relationship of the alcoholic beve-rage establishments and other stores function in U;.e cty, -3- CZfe:m-a ed• that these av,- txvo Vestrtclioa_G on. auraba� n, a J1. 2, 500 ya?,ule.,Uor. fWT off -sale licenses., and 1 21 i-A, M -' a -,! -ona PWUc- aad .oral Jica�-.ses . %,,ihi-h is subdivided into F,2) on -sale i,ubllc :xVMisQG- Othoy. V%�,,,tajj '.icoasa:y (boer Anfj i;..'An.-' lava r.0 laurner- ars Undue �tc.:F�J reztldllons. The Depail.m-ant may deP.Y MV llcox coaceatIDS tia- of licenv'es, resulttrAj in a police Probley.a. AFC - Orgy, a restrt.ction ha,.s, existed thet t4,y may lot 1,9 v a ch. IT ch, sc,A.�- FA efn.��nz,�,al oil this ool, hospual or children' pu' lic playground, but fa One basis ,vas a-,rqealed, and no-tv It is getting harder nawd hardier to On this .. I (f" �. �3 - basis. Any ��-acomnlendation Made by the A.B.C. car, he Pl'otestfc-,-: tlr.•�Tty­day ­,Iod, and A's hearing has to be held V- A. B. (.3. recownMends OEM 7-1, and there Is 1y;rc )tsst, --h-a applicant can give a hazirc�l ing. The d-.Lon is k .0 -VivIew by an Alc(ihallic Beverage Appeals Boax(j, qphich is a E-epkil-ate age,cy oI ty,VJAAkx�,d in ,., N the constitutiona and consists of U.-aae inembees coffiplOtGlY 0u'-'Ar_'0 th-� �,').RPartnleAt- Following thks introduction, the Commission entered the dizcu.;,­;iMk- 0011ist What ratto of outlets to population GMIjsts in oug ci'­ eJ, i_o County as a whole, and other beaea cities? Greenv 1)on't have currerat figures available, since rena,,wr s is on !,,.iahandar year bests and there is a sLx-weeks grace perkrJ._ Mulfinger: Does high influx. of people in beach area justify a b�42A:v "-�.AU, -K 0 Itl0ts? G r a en.: We don't place a lot of emphasis on that because 0 a ,,, It could be determined by questioning the Chief of Ponca t Ue wkether Ime crime rate is highar. , E Stable-. Does the control for outlets stem n from ecoor1J;,. iQ A s there stro-.ng direction agiven by otty fathers? Greon: Oommunity control Is indirect. in the old day-.,-,: 1-4;,- Vf '1'(z; J-01'.LY C�f Whittier, the prosence of many churches precluded the L )1 4- because of the B6andard restrictions. Stabler., There should be some basis other tern strict be a criteria based upon drinking establishments ir, ralat!�ril to OIULWTGt3n outlets. He inqujued whether the present criteria, iv population, is adequate. Gr e e n. No. It has been under study for several years t1hure was a statute that no retail license could be located 1A_nsz, 47undred feet of another retail license unless it was gotrig to b�: « bQ-az fidia restau- rant. The law %.,,,as repealed about four years -4- Toole. Ho%,v e.,- tejjsivs J.; your into the i iv . als applying for a license? Greer: Basic tool, is finipar printing. we c�tack vjith the Police Department to see if he has any arrests Collis: Is there any thought of a spay of C'ontroiltng the value of these licenses once they are granted? Green: Licenses issued since 1961 can only be sold Max $6, 000, sus the opera- tors try to shift the va.l«a to fiXtures . Toole: Do you make an effort to find out where the Money buying a license is coining from ? Green: Yes Crawford: Once a permit is granted and the license Is in force, and is then trans- ferred, what circumstances would have to exist for A.B.C. to uphold a city's objections? Green: The general guideline is that if there 6s no criminal record, the Depart- ment cannot sustain a denial. Once the business is in it is much more difficult to get a denial on a transfer unless it is on character of the, new owner. If you deny a Condit iona 1 Use Per€n it a we would have to deny the license as it would be a violation of a valid zoning ordinance. The applicant would have to appeal if he isn't satisfied. There are instances where a premises is too close to residents or causing ann�sy- ances to the neighborhood where A.B.C. will revoke the lbcesnse. Such premises cannot be relicensed for a year. Collis: What steps are taken to revoke? Green: Notices are givens witnesses are brought in to prove a problem exists. Collis: What type of businesses have caused the most problems? Green: The biggest problems have been cau%: ed by on -sale beer places, or beer and wine licenses where food is not required. Crawford: How many new licenses are issued each hear? Green: Twenty-five new liquor licenses are issued each year strictly for restaurants. Stabler: Have you set up any basis for determining "restaurants" by table arrangements, seai.ing capacRy, etc. ? -- Greana: No, but they must have adequate spac-,e for eatinciy We do check on their equipment to see that it is uffic"Mnat to sOrrve full meals. Crawford: If the city were to set up a ratio of its own, could your Department review the ratio before it were enacted as a law? Green: We could Riot do that.' Crawford: Is it fair to ask ycu whether you feel that our present regulations are reasonable in the eyes of your office` Green: They are reasonable. You do protest more than other cities. Watters: Vhat other cities protest? Green: lawndale, and although Santa Monica does not have a lot of transfers, they protest quite a few. Crawford: Are you taking into consideration that we automatically protest until after the hearing? Green: Yes, I was including all of the protests. Most cities do not do this. Chairman Stabler invited the audience to parttctpate: Elinor Connors, 002 -- Sth Street, Hermosa Beach: Has the Counctl any right to say that they do not want a license in Hermosa? Green: The City of Hermosa Beach has legal rights to protest. Connors: Practicing local option. Green: LaVerne and Pacific Move have kept licenses out on the basis of use under their property deeds. That has been outlawed. There can be no city ordinance outlawing liquor. Rosemary Foreman, Editor, El Segundo Herald: Does the city have a right to demand X amount of booths or tables when A.E.C. does not have that rule? Green: As far as our, State law is concerned, that would be correct. We could not consider a certain ratio of seats. Rosemary Foreman: Can the city decrease hours of operation which the State has granted ? Green: The city could not itself do that without a formal public hearing, except -6a under a Conditional. ltcensc which we are now allowed to issue. Crawford.: Our general philosophy in establishing conditions on Conditional Use Permits is that if the applicant agrees at a public hearing to the estab- lished conditions, the City Attorney will be able to enforce the condi-, tions in court, but if there has not been a meeting of minds, he cannot enforce against the irvj0A o1 the applicant, Rosemary Foreman: Does he autcsax+atically get a Conditional Use Permit? Crawforr : If he agrees at the Conditional Use Permit hearing in order to get the license, thGa he agrees to the A.B. C. The city could deny if he doesn't agree. Watters: How many places have you put time limits on? Crawford: Ricardos -- until midnight. Rosemary Foreman: Questioning the city`s sight to do this. Legally, under the State law, they do have a right to stay open until 2:00 in the morning. Can the city have the right to deny the Conditional Use Permit? Bob Craw --- ford is saying that the city preempts the State on this. Collis: Soils husband and wife agreed that the time was adequate for a family - type of restaurant. if the applicant wished to pretest, he would apply to A.B. C. and then protest the time. Watters: Why was the 1200 midnight limitation imposed? Crawford: Because of the proximity of residents and the presence of live enter- ta €nrment City Planner Crawford asked Mr. Green if the A.B. C. had any complaints about the way that the city had been handling these matters, or any suggestions as to how they could improve. Green: ''e have no complaints regarding the city's activities. We do appre- ciate it if you can have your hearings as soon as possible so that we can process the application and reach a decision, and usually your correspondence has been timely. The thirty -day protest of licenses almost snakes it mandatory, or you would be beyond statutory time for protest. Himmel: Questioned whether or nova the jurisdiction could provide adequate ~,.ibYd �r4Jf.��. VA�o18 bbm LILS6. 6i'%) the premises. - Greer: Ve assume that each jurisdictior? as ''natter of course Gain X' Ovide adequate policing. Crawford: If the Police Chief protested and said he couldn't handle anY more, it would be considered a protest on that basis. Himmel: Do you consider access, traffic, parking? Green: No, we don't check parking.. Himmel: How frequently do your Uispectors visit? Green: We hava five inspectors, thtrty-two thousand licensed promises . We work on complaints. Stabler: Are your present regulations reasonable in the eyes of your office in general? What statutes would you like to have changed? Green:, Restrictions on the numbew of beer licenses. The biggest number of violations are the places which require the least investment to go into. I would like to see the price of licenses stab. line. Crawford: Have you sought the assistance of the cities for legislative changes? Green: Yes. We have met with the League of California Cities. Stabler: Could corporations be required to file applications to transfer stock? Green: That would affect wholesalers --legislation in that field. McDaniel: Inquired about interim and temporary licenses. Green: We have temporary licenses and temporary pennits. The farmer is a one -day license obtained for fundraising, and when we get one, we do check with the Chief of Police and let hbit know that an application has been filed. The other type is a temporary permit which is granted for sixty days when a premises is changing hands. If the man's moral character is good, we will cunt this affective ten days after he applies. Our applications normally take forty-five clays. Allows new owners to continue to operate. Collis: Are there any controls over the sale? Green: The limited licenses mast be sold through an escrow. Crawford: Is there a fee involved for temporary licenses? Green: Yes. $25.00 license for cocktails. McDaniel'. By the Use Of ;a tenIPMY iWA_nI ii., he can operate until he gets a Viral decision. Thal m anly on a transfer in the same location for tale same type of business. On a new V amises, there is no sL?r.ilar tedhnique. Do organized groups have a better opportunity? firearm. We havo restrictEons or, temporary licenses; civic organizations, charitable organizations. Collis: Can he obtain more than one licanse? Green: Yes, but his past operation would affect it. Chairman stabler thanked Mr.+Green on behalf of the Commission and Mr. Green agreed to another visit in order to meet with the Council as well as the Commission. Comm. Himmel suggested that a letter of appreciation be seat to lair. Green. Recess 9:25 - 9:30 p. M. ���st off L�ca�renent Co►n is lion a oust t�ie�t' `�„�.: Motion by Comm. Watters, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger to accept the suggestion of the improvement Commission. to conduct a joint r�meetL g, at a timee arranged by the staff. AYES: Comm. Collis, Himmel, Mulfinger, 'utters, 'Toole and Chairanan Stabler. NOES: None ABSENT: Comm. Noble. _re�x�:.i.'-.�icrra on Zone Gk�a�a�a_ t 1400 ?� of�arosa AvSrzs0 � City Planner Crawford informed the Commission of a note from the,: City Clerk indicating that the zone had been changed from Cm2 with R-3 potential to straight R-3. The City Council had hoped that they developers of the property would fol- low the Precise Plan. They didn't '4001 they could impose it on the property Owners. Liestina wianhatfan And Redo Arrangements have been made with the Planning Directors in Redondo and Manhattan to conduct the joint meeting at the Cattleman's Restaurant in Redondo orb the even- ing of March 31. qu ° �esU lea R11IRMiijaCounctI Teetir.a. This meating was cancelled. ...,.9 -1 Comm. Stabler reported on a meetng with 1sirra ra Krushkov an Maxh 10, in which Mir> hishkov discuss the ZA- lowing pluses of planning and zoning: land use intensity, marked conservatism by the Cifiy Atvwn. sy. He would like to see the Zoning Committee or Planning Goramtssion really push to provide some innovative thinking. He suggested that in order to get they city off center, to get things moving to the city that the Planning Commission would ygobably be wire to pro- vide the Council with active programs. He talked in terns of the planned unit development, incorporating land use intensity, u barn renewal, joint Cooperatio ,iqi.th Wvatc corpczations, city parMcipation in private interests. He thought the Planning Counnission would be wise to really go in and sat up these programs, and show the City Council that the action prograrns do wcck. He felt that rather than trying to upgrade standards, that we might try a new idea called urban design manual; show through architectural renderings what can be done. To sum up, Comm. Stabler said that the Planning Commission should attempt to use any of the means Mr. I4nrushkov suggested, grouping or consolidation of land, larger land groupings. The Commission discussed methods of implementing these ideas, and City Planner Crawford mentioned that at present Coldwell Banker have ofread a yroposal to develop a shopping center in the downtown area. Comm. Stabler said that the next meeting of the Zoning Committee would be on Tuesday, March 24, at ti.e International House of Pancakes,, 7:30 a. m. Zia Land Development Committee announced they would rneet at the home of fir "Natters, 528 - 3rd Street, 7:30 p. m, March 30th to discuss ;We blem of vary3rag setbacks. City Planner Crawfwd announced a joint meeting with Hermosa Beach School Dis- trict on April 20 at the North School, 7:30 p. m. The purpose of the meeting will be to become better acquainted with the District's problems. Adjournment, 10:12 P. age. 1'he next meeting will be April 6,, 1970. Certification I hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes have been appbove€3 by the Plarwing Commission of the City of Hev.nosa Beach at a regular meeting held on the 16th of March, 1970. ... LAIRD STABLER, VICE CNAIiLI+I-AN JAMES D. CCLLIS, Secretary .�.�