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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_70.07.06 Unsignedr THE H .a .,..�-�a 'e9 1. d I � i?� ���= �.x��p���y���Ts:�'�€, ����'��m�1S£�� �;b' �y:f�� � ��:��Tgt�'��p���:E �9���L�}'�����p,�7 .BID a.L\s 1s�`.�. �a C` c6qq&VC�L CHAINFIBE v[���, ((,�y✓��9�ry�� S��[-�i{:�ff�� .L2_,�s�o�eLNA�w.¢i �Le.tl��g �bd3 19 7 V 1, i`. uL 7 . 3 6 Y a 1 '�+ . MEETING 5I aCALLED TO �fR�S7: 40 YJc by Vice n haAi ; _ Stable:'. n;0,L,: CALL Rcesent Ca'ii14" cooks, °'ooze, D.Sultinger, and Stable Absent; Cerram'r'a); w, u`. afters, and Chat an Noble. ®i t� y �zl to eaz , s cs ded by onto �%o ajD o,ra m ii?utes of June 15, 1970 meeting Mcttcn by Comm, Collis, seconued by Comm. roote 4c ap1prcve Resolution P.C. 1 4-774 as submitted. AYES, Comm,,. Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, and Chatranan Stabler NOES.- None ABSENT: Corset.,, 'Poole, wauers, and Cha€rman Noble 00,.,n , Mulftnger wtshe~d to clartfy his vote on P.C. 154-s774 at the June 15 meettng by saying he voted against it because he did not cunt the potential, but at his time he wished to haste yes; that the Resolutton xi%7as coned' o Mott®n. by Comm. Foote, second by 1-301110-a Collis, to adopt P C 4 164m775 as submitted., AYES: Comlyla Collis, Foots:, sviu.lftrx�er, and O'hatrman Stabler NOES: None .ABSENT: Comm® Toole, "Warters, and Chailman Noble. Con,-Ay3 ,. yjulftngex again qualified hts vote at 00 jurrie 15 meeting by saying he preferred straight R:3 rather tsar, R-3 yoten;tal, but at this time he wtshe(d to vote Yes Q1a'Lr?�?tiii€ S� a ry . 15 'r7 � �? Motton by Comm, Foote, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger to adopt ltGsolution 154-776 as submitted. � FSW Comm. Collis, Foote, mu;€finger; and. Chatrnaan Stabler NOES: None ABSENT: u©mm. Toole, Patters, and ChaLrman Noble -2- Re:y.,yst of I-Ufred C-1. P.,ovvman for a U,hange of 1E;ad use .:one from R-1 Xith R-2 Potential to R-2 on lot 5, Block 21, Hermosa Beach 'Tract, l;no vn as 2024• Strand, and appro�;al of Precise Plan 023 as basis of said cha�zge. City Planner Gra-tajLirdd explained that this w-as a request for a zone change -ender a potential zone procedure in T.PA irh the proposal is to retain the existing dwelling on tla.e rear of the l.ot and bring it up to code and attach a new structure on to the f nt -whicht vould create a duplex. The south bmilding line is shovin as three feet from the prape-,ty line, the front yard as 4°-b% This building oumd project i- 2" beyond existing buildings. IAA, Orcawtford sa ld that Uie important point in this application is that it is the first such request and -nay become a trend scatter. He added that the dectsior3 to approve sho:ald be based upon whether it , o-uld be better to encourage the retention of the existing buildings or enco arage the demolition of b-.aildings and replaRcement with nevi strucvmrese He said the decision would affect the ocher four blacks that were changed to R-4 potential. He said that the staff cannot make a recommendation, at this time because they don't feel they ha,;e sufficient information to recoaFamend either approval or denial of the request. public hearing opened: 8:01 p. rya. 1'-,Ured 0. Bowman, 2024 Strand, applicant for the change of Land sse zone, sDoke in favor of the request, He said that his property had a full building lot on the front, but due to the change of zone to R--! twenty-five years ago, nothing had ever been built on it. He had six points to make: 1. The comity Planner said the property would not be acceptable to a lot split., 2. if a separate structure were b•.ailt, it would have to be further fbmp,,ard and a solid structure so that it wo-uld tend to auz Off a very nice view that their neighbors to the north have of Cjialina. 3. �?is specific- purpose for the addition wo:atd be a two -bedroom family apartment to be occupied by his son after his marriage, or possibly his parents in the future, and would necessitate a kitchen. 4, The plans for the addition have beer doge so that the high part in the back will not be visible from the Strand. 5. The avange�xent will allOw for lan0scaping on The Strand. 6. The building which the Building Department has inspected is in eery good condition except for stomevoiring and b=t window and will be brought asp to rode. Mary Donahue,, 2008 Strand, spoke in favor because she also owns an emP.y lot on whi,;h she vaould like to build. a. '� 'I' an 6 -trzeadl,SelIi � e "4;LTa�''..i E.�' c' -- first i-n, Lhe, i. eC: W '',.et a VEIrianGel to ba 1d, and felt TV,;. . Bea-vvman's pj a�,%s veould be a vielcome addition to the area. Mrs . Robert A. Batton, 2026 S'4.t ay1cl,i spOj,.j,,,..' Lit apposition to &,e recjueSt .b e a:_ lie. shy: didn't agree ioijjth adding on to an older b oase as it prolonged the Life of the building, although she didn't object to a separate build,inga Iler main paint TraaS thczt t%3 :.ity S��kC? did S c�a+ i:��3 <aii elines or cEltGria so that citizens will be aware of what is going to happen in the area. Mr.s. v-ar°ol Penter, or 2626 Strand., :.also opposed One request because A -le did not feel it would be of pwblic benefit to add or, to an older- building, Public hearing--Iosed at 8:19 p. M. CaInIn. Collis inquired about the age of the s"ra :t:are and Ux. Bowman said it was forty years old, 4.'d as he proposed to spend the rest. of his life thePf$ he felt old houses should be preserved with more flowers and friendliness. Mr. Kern Palmer, the contractor, said that a variance would be needed for the non -conforming side yard, that the request had been included in the application. Comm. Stabler asked wiry there were no precise plans, and Mr. Bowman said that the expense iw olved in _rroducing plans for both an addition and a separate anit would be heavy. He also asked how many existing lots had single family buildings so located that sirailar additions co_dd be made. In a discussion of the req-uest,, Corzarn. Foote suggested holding the ?smatter over ..until the entire Commission could be present, and in order to see more detailed plans, ',' sommn Collis felt that the %''Oo mission was Only concemed with basic content; Oomm. Stabler said that he believed the size of the lot precluded a new development r Motion by Comm. C"'Oollis, seconded by Comm. M-alfinger that the decision be postponed :until a full i:,oaa mission is present, and that the applicant present a, preliminary plan showing the floor p lar! in i/S" scale, and possibly an egevation of the tivo buildings and a plan of the park-ing, continue until the next regular meeting of the Planning "oErmivsion on July Z[s. I,yBS: Comm. idollis, Foote,, IvI alfinger, and Chai.��an Stabler. 130T:q: None 1'.BSENT: Comm. 'Cooley V. atters and 3hairman Noble. r -7 Q --6 Change of land as's zone by the Planning Gorarpisslon from railroad right Oa wain (Unclassi}led) to R-1, R -? or Yi vi ith R-3 poten-,'A"a] or, that portion of abandoned ri.ght of way lacat-ed at Lhe no`-Itheasi: i i is�:�s of 1st Street and Ardmore, known as 102 Ardraore Avenue. Public hearing opened: 8:45 P. m. Mr. _harry L. johrason, 452 Mayor, Redondo Beach, Basked the 0-101P.Plissao:n, ,what they would zone the property -under consideration it he had aot applied. for the zone change on his own, property at the last 001Mrn.i sio-1 meet.ing� co),agn, Stabler sutsomai•ized the feeling of the ',ommisston in saying that they were not gsite satisfied xutth the requi.raments that the city has for R-•3 zone at the present time and if Mr. Johnson felt W-at R-3 potential is disc Kim-iinating against him it was unfortunate, but could not: be safely changed at this tin'ae. Public hearing closed: 8:55 p. m. Motion by Comm. Wilfinger, seconded by Comm. Collis to continue the hear- ing anti. jaly 26, 197E and to notify RAr. Sohn Schmolle of the hearing Since his property is under consideration. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfir?ger, and Chairman Stabler NOES: None ABSENT: �.omm. Toole, V atters and Noble, -70-7 Request of P--ece O'Pizza lnC. for a conditional use permit in order to con-duuct a taioe o,-it food business at 1501 Hermose. Avenue, on lot 29, Block 18, Flerrnosa BeaQh `bract. city Planner Crawford summarized the consideratiolis involved in granting the application for permit to tai:e o.:t food as: 1. fours o,t operation: 12:tJU 1100n. to 1:06 a. m. 2. Distance from residences: adjacent to reap. 3. Possible noise, smoke, odor,, --ansighta mess: Odom' tom cookhig, Mess :mom customers eating at c.arbs . Oro Oft street parking: none available. 5. Possible hazard from c;ongregatioll; on -street parking, congested angle. parking, i'eq=lent arrivals and de-partures cold create traffic haza-M. 6. Precautions taken by rxAvnx e;�. to assure compa-Ubil ty 2.�Uh s irrour-c it g area: None. 7. Site in relation to streets: Z'orrjer shore at nop- signalized into-r eciiorl o'l 15th Street and Hermosa Avenue. rya Type of service: Cctano;(3,r inside cafe building. He said that two problems'exist: Pmking, which is angle and .tong --term, would ._:reate a hazard; and congestion of juven.ples and/or beach visitors would Create a Aitt>ar PrOl lem. He recommended approval of the application ..pith the following coed tion-5: A. No take out after 3 [, -60 P. m. (similar restrictions on B ll's `tacos, Taco Bell and other take-out approved in the rust two years.) 2. Maintain, clears anti attractive trash �ontainer, approved by Depaxt er_t of Public, Vk orks, at corner, 5. Maintain sidewalk and guteer or% Hermosa Avenue and lath Street clean an free of debris, wash regularly. 4. No paper or cardboard window signs. 5. Review in sic months. Mr. Crawford said there had been a ,protest in writing from E. R. Sc;haa.d, 'Lagana Beach, owner of a five -unit apartjnent building abutting the property in which he said he felt that granting a conditional :use permit on this property would only lead to parking problems,, cooking Burnes, fire risk, loitering, littering, the need for additional Police s'xrx eillasace, and the possibility that granting one such pe' it would provide the ns�cessary leverage fty5s another such variance. Cc ma. /J al,lis ing-tired as to jade present zoning, which Mr. Crawford. said p as P'ablic hearing opened: 9:C8 a.m. Mr. Michael ;vss, 1324 Devon, ": est Ws p;!1geles, represented the Piece oi: Pizza Tn;. , and said he was in agreement With all the rrquireme':ts stiPulated by the city exceyt the IG:00 P.m. closing. He said none of the twenty --once establishments were franchised, and the business was acceptable W the consumer as a family package, although they would Aire to encourage people to sz a. ple the pizza, and therefore ;,,vould sell by the piece. He said he felt that the problems cited were subject to control by management, and thstr employees were trained by the management of the co.-apany. He said that all of their snits excerpt one, where v©lame didn°t rraerit it, -s.xere open _ntil 4 Public hearing closest at 9:15 p. tm. -6. 3'CYliO'b�.s; lftjIg ,vas taki.zg place u� tis estalelisia- nae ,t be: a--e a i�c+s3t� . .c�a�al ?j�e Pe.. nit had been issues?,, 1� ws i thatsw XEt�??2� 4?3�Cf 4yha locations this per"nit "AiciS not r.ece ssary ':I.n.i he had not ar%Ai : j-PP-te`-I &,11 p'vblei�s, s �� :e $t?ey i+i1y'Ze ax��3nlii� an Zhu li icc�a o the t% 'S. .zn.it t �o-jrjt. Collis also mentio-acid on--si�;eqc�� PEI ici,19 anti Yr ��su �ia�?{{'t ��e� iti �g V1701ald be necessary as I'le,-8xPa'ct0r it to be qu"-'s a smaS.d a���4�rCi�l.�.n g and 8�.��J�i.B foe foot traffic from the beach, etc. DiscussiOaa of business operation by the ti ommitssioixers relative to music, a=.no 11kt of total volume bexs,�eer lfa:Go p,m. , arxd 1:00 a .m. �,rind� ope�iings and parkins, revealed tIl-nt about 36% of Business is e�ciae(rted to be betweet3 l :G p.m. and 1:00 a.m, , PM sterc.10 m ayic Of fixed volume wrould. ;ae usede i:I3EsC-i were vvindc)vjs in apax'Uilents to fear, cal:'J%r-- restaau a_ a and no ork.�"sAirael was to tee PrOv.t(zd, o. `L,F y:�,e opinion o! r itQss, YIG�cL�e«�. rr.TQ?z:2 �Irsr pa -et. o��ne� € , the apaaraent at 3�t jSt£eet® €objected to fife °cte b_�siri ss ia�:in o Fated be�t��ee 30:v% P.M. and l:Gfj a.m. ?Irk . Koss c"..;55L,'ed Lhe o£:jk:lssiCan teat he rn??aa going dnL��s1' �?e as�aCt?�i;iait that the b.isingss Tgoald. be operated as a clean f-,imily .restaffam ree ,�.0 p�oblesxs4 Ent, if they needed to, they wo ild get a private policeman. %,ov.lam. Stabler indicated that the concerns of the Planning commission exceeded tE,,e success or faij.are of indi- ideal b:asinessesa concern centers'with repraser't-- ing the needs aad fut.are of tie citizens. Mr. Robert i'a,_Atsh, 315 Pier Avenue, marLag=Y- of �rr%��. cl�aaci's pf-o�:ety siAhd GaY:t rrrlcxtrovecadgcG V� mn c o sing ain9 in Motion by Gomm aotea seconded by Gomm. Malfinger to ac;cerk the reccaa��� a d­ a,tion, of the staff and gear -it a .orditional Use Permit on those recommendations. YES: e oax m. Foote, M?-i3finger,� and Stabler NOES: Comm. C3011i s PFPSENT: ,,ow.m. Toole, watu,",rs and Chairman Noble. � d4.r_ c �r Motion by Goanrg ���-. . llfing�er, seconded by Gomm. . Foote to adopt P. %r, . l.� 7 7 . / Cf�r"Zaiting a 4�'v7nditiona?use Permiteo th-c-- PlecO of F'zz Inc. to oPerE' - a tcij5�? of: �F o b 3.Siikes� s�'4 l eFl � :: Wlosa Ave, o toot 29,f Block 13, 02.2 i�ermOsa B ea(%h Tz- %s:t on ths Lasts ps"s tPa:zr dailrn Y flsblich hearing v7~nL-js.d that. if 3tr'. an 6perai:ioYh was maintai.i'itander of ire" Staff rep°3rs it iiv4. uld not be detrimeaata l to the Y. ir-roz:und inns pzo:-r«rties o and tha- iL doses -fit into the geme-rally accepted basiness x.attern established for t?te area, The c on- d`tions that. Will Lpply to ` lis Permit are as follens, Vake out :0 z. MaincaLn cieak. and attract-iive trash container, approved by the De-partnic—,nit P31. )ic V orks, at cosier. 3 t maintain stdewalk and gutter On Yler-mosa Avenue and 15th Street clea 7 and fxee of debris, wash regularly. 4. No paper or cardboard window sighs.. 5. Review in s L%, months. It is not beyond the scope of this permit to grant an additional take-outtime ipon the six months ®viewy PYES: Comm. Foote, Yl u3finger and Stabler NOES: rComm. uollis ABSEN''1'. Comm. Toole, Vatters, and (ahaik"man Noble ontessa Ceramics Review of conditions of approval of ConditiMal use Pormit issued December, 1968. City Planner Crawford explained that since the lash: 1100MMdssion Meeting. the management of Gontessa Ceramics had been unable to attend to the Cora- mission4s requests. They apparently have no one mustivorthy available to opencte the lot Comm. Stabler moved, seconded by �;omm. 111a finger, that the Commiss on hold a public hearing to revoke the business permit at their first meeting in Aagust. PYES. Comm. Collis, Foote, M alfinger, and Stabler. NOES: None ABSENT: Comm. Tonle, V atters e and Chairman Noble. ."_ one Determ Lna tion 'IS peciali4d Sports and Recreation Equipment. " l'veviQv ofesol.ation P. 154-7�59, its definition of ahave as a C-2 general commercial use, of building inspectors -3 - A�. g c v Planner awford , viewc,.�Z' applicant's cjjqjja'1 reqaest which had th E bso a jr.dicated that the business v,--,Oa,1,d be StrictlY retaVil VW i h d list Of Snorting equipment There ware to be no auto parts or comPleted or motorized equiip- ment. Mr. Bob Dompsey of the Building Department had inspected the store and found fully assan, bleel tIuaa baiggies, go-carts , and assorted auto parts, new arad used, being stored thera, a use riot permitted in this zone, and in.- dicated that he felt that there had been assembling on the premises6, uOraql. Stablor commented that this LneUcated a manufactma-ing operatio-n to him. Mr. DeSmidt, operator of the business, said t;q�at the company was in t1n process of erecting another building In. Gardena axad that eventually all of the u--,Cd parts now being An Hermosa '!,'rould be taken over dhere. He said that it had been his impression that he uuould be allowed to have one complete sample of each model to show the public. He said in ans%ver to a question Lrom Comm. Stabler that some of their equipment Is sti.111 in the process of being made, and that they do not have a complete stock yet. Comm. Stabler said that his porsonal impression was that it looked Rke a dune buggy business. Comm. Foote asked when the Gardena Building would be ready and Mr. DeSmidt said It would be between six weeks and three m on-ths Comm. Foote asked what other sporting goods would be sold., Mr. DeSmidt indicated that Sabots, fishing equipment and sports clothing would also b9 sold. Comm. Foote asked when above would be can premises. Mr. DeSm 1-.dt stated that he needed to sell TM-haels, volkswagen fenders and hoods. comm. Foote said that to him those would be auto parts- Mr. DeSmidt said that he felt lie was permitted to have assembled models in the previous approval. ri Comm. Stabler suggested that the,'�':�-�atter be continued to July 2 , 1970, and that the items which may be stocked and sold defined in detail, that assembled kits of the seven models may be displayed. He further suggested that all used auto parts and mechanics equipment be removed within two -weeks - Motion by Foote, seconded by Collis, to amend Resolution P, 0 - 15 4-7 b-9 to indicate that seven assem. bled vehicles may be displayed in the StOre, and.X that a signed statement that they are not for salsa be provided to thG City Theremay be no car dealers 'License issued to this address and all used auto parts must be removed within two weeks ftm this date; that the matter be 11� to t 1 s 3 �':.��.��€?ii'.�-w'.� g:� +;.�z� �� � ��a,,�i;3'4'. a �:� ��i�=:3�k°�d���, �'1�"'u_. 3. �';:."a ;ao'.L�. �f stockedand scD33." r� C,;,n ti Y�C• �� _ i that •a a::_S � be �'1 e� =.�'r.� " prior to the meeting l��,'�d a.LtiC� ??� %��i-7 t: 3p S��. ik. i.I3 i. i..��� rJ�� 2 �:..-� �.- •, �° �:., _ .3 a Ze4port Made on, $lx<: --j'11t -: e- e-'enlo al of used T.srdr»'s. The arn— Comm. Stabler reported that no meeting was held, but one was planned for July 14, 1970 at 7s30 a.m, ;and Dave?oommant Gorrrtittee No meeting was held. Beach Committee The ininutes were distributed to the Cornmission for the&r review" ja"€'�C' -meeting On July 9, WO at the Grandview in Los Angeles, Calvin Hamilton will -PresWit the City of LosAngeles" General Plan. hok?-Acienda Totems The City Planner suggested a meeting with the Board of Zoning Adjustment to discuss amending R-3 zone standards and the Council over -ride vote. Comm. Collis requested that the staff check Manhattan Beach density standards along the Strand. Comm,, uolits mentioned a policy of Gardena requiring postcard return showing recieTt og Perm is a a meth c�� s��vin� ��ecedi= a�. t�P�bla�ans regarti?rrg the propal, tAxonnatlon sseirrrat on r�:::eso u loans adopte .. He also suggested that snaps delivered to Commissioners regarding zone charges should have the existing zoning of the area shown. Adjournment at 11„52 p.m. until 7:40 p.m. jury 20, 19710. CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes, have been. approved by the Planning Cc�trar- ission oh the City of Hermosa Boach at a regulaP meeting held on hie 6th. of July, 1970, Date IJAIRD STABLER, VICE ; PHAIRM N ?,,��' � .tea..:•€'.'� �`z :���..�r��,_ i