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Motion by Corrm m Stabler;, seconded by ;- cmm. Mallinger, , to approve the
mirtutes of the July 20, 19710 m- esting with the correction on Dca fie 6 under
"Jade Reuse company 9[ that Caom rm . roote abstained Porn voting,
tAYES: a��n���s Stabler, and ��hai�rarNoble
�tNOES: Norio
Comm. Foote noted a typographical error in paragraph two, which should
be charged from nori-variously to nc%v variously.
Motion by Comm. Stabler, secoaded by 'Cdo .rr:. Muffing to approve
Resolution P.C. 154-778,,
AYES- Comm. Foote, Mullin-ger, Stabler, and Chairmall Noble
NOES: None
ABSENT: Comm. Collis,. Toole, and, V%atters
City Planner Cra r4o d said that this was the third hearing on ;fir. Alkaed
Eowmart's request for a changs cl' land use zone -`om R-1 v�ny th R-2 Fa%tential
to R-2 as the matter had been continued in orde.fi fa .the staff to i rel-pare
additional material for posstble st-andard , or guWe•lines to be applied in[ th
utilization of the R-2 potential fcw the paoperty,, He saW that J are were
only etght lots in the area which chid not hisve some non-cecaafor.-mance b
He suggested some "ground rules" as be applied to the area:
l4 Norm5llya new construction is to be encouraged, air essenttally st 910
fa:a�ily-h4ome type eta-nosphere, with second unit intended to Delp suppc�vt
same -all units should be at least.- 1500 square Beet_ tn area
2. ®Ider buildings may be conmeafed er added to op—ly when i_heY car, be
brought up to currant build"rma cvie standards, and are judged physically
�, safe
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cyeate the visual that the two sixtictures are once,
C That no non -conform, 4ng garage st!uctuare may be retained unless it is
physically unseparable from the, dwelling—.
01 sideyards may be allowed only under provisions of Resolution
Po G o 154-717
6s Elevations and landscape plains shall be subrnitted with all requests
%o utilize R-2 Potential in oxder to ailswi.re -that proposals wiR bled
with, neighboring yyop titN-�s n
Geaarim, Stabler �Tesd an waalysis by C�.4am n R Goilis
Public hearing opened: 7:54 p,}m.
Tyr. Alfred Go Bowman, 2024 Strand, c;ommernted on #1 of Mr,, Crawford°s
suggesttonse he felt that If you assume that you want to have the a,ppearaonc,
of a single family dwelling with ,an additions! unit to be the object, you Woulsl.
be unable to accomplish this with the smaller unit being la 500 square feet.
Mr. Bowman them summed up the background on his request: He wished to
build a large separate living room, romoved ikon? the kitche n:, and add a
separate living unit with, another kitchen. On October 6, 1969„ the Planning
Commission had cornsidere4 changirsg the zone knack to R-2 from R-1, but L s'.ead
changed to R-1 with R.-2 PotantiaL At that time the Commission said that: thek
area was destined to be zoned R-2 in the near fixture, and that each application.
would be considered separately and if it is reasonable it would be approved.
They planned to hold study sessions for precise Manning which would enhance
property values.
Mr. Bowman continued that in the light of the ordinance, his house seemed
to qualify one the basis of ag-6, could be brought tip to code, had three enclosed
garages, building area in front, needed beautdyinch, and he. was flexible
as to architectural features. He said in view of these facts,; he questioned
the denial of his request because of the Chairman's statement. last October..
and hoped that the Commission, would act favorably at this time.
Comm. 'Boole a -rived at 8003 P.m
Comma V atters arrived at 0�07 p.m,
Mr,., Bowman said that he could not promise that Mere would never, h® a
tenant on his premises, and also that if his appitcation was unsuccessful„
he would then submit, alteinate plans. He said he didn't u-nderstand the
reason why the Commission, did not approve tits plans, and thought it could.
only be for one of two reasonse (1) that tjae Commission didn't like the plans,
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194-t}. ��:raartd ,said that ��� BCi'7�?ria ()s �360t��t5 Xv��'us� MA
a =r ivy r of tea � � �{ 3 ma s too riucli 3 ox:� in
grout, She 3)a-d shedkd :3 8f4,,�-:� with r,i2� � '�'t3
a"I uafts in. tote ayez,-,
Donahue, 0-�ars%:j i3 t tii-aN, o%,i,r:: ers xr'z.La t s d Udl '63E"g�.f,: i¢3 )F,f��4x,
r 'f; of s-het.-c mod,' al ar• iqe a parking area W& th. F,
�;� ����,;��� ��„� F�l���,� � She :d�,�:; that �. .�?t�:�d �� �� �
garage and parking area.
�jAAxs. ,Tramd C„r.� Bo" an e.".49EY1, 11311ted tlh at She Ivan Very anxi4:)uir. to erlipl y
... landscape gardener, a d alsi:: ;to cciasult With th- 0 piark s supe?visor; to
establish a b,eauWul garden W the nev rye-YelopMO t o
!go one appeared to speak in opPosi OIL,
Public hearing closed at 8 , l4 p , m .
Chairman Noble questlonr:J the stipulation that a,ll units should be at least
1, 50i} sgLjara facet in area, asking Mr. Cxawffccd for his nsasoniiag r-ehtnd nz-
sir,= Craw -Iced said it had %f3On tG PrC]`i6ts3 a "vo c,aii3!x,► ilC7?��t?asl;� • f3:i� l`�i.�s#
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upon retgeo'tioa., he ogre-ec'a with i II(I suggostl.or,_ of trsc rxrope; ty cr nnars tl a*•
qse sncord unit be sma:,der deBbC--t a�;0I tO I�`3eP I't a� a ore-faf-41-ty vjUlx �r:�= s�.
had a great 'deal Of " eT t,-
coz;i m. Stabler KePeated his coz1l.me�nts ljcoin thee-' otxs rrke,'Aing that hedidn't
to NBowman 's taaar s ^ H aselves � wY d I< L:.-�t ylsh to sit
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lip -Agreed With mr, , I3ovir-tan t h-a . thin COM3' Ss s i o n had Leo er negligent is
ioll wing up an 3" 104 studsr sO ss tarma ea. sillce $`e; of the
Commission's commitment wheal they chang:-- �Cg�� gqror�@w4: ��kz also cc3axtiol�kt�:�l
ov Com ', Col3ts' letter i,o thw ��rr��r��3a�Y.�x� ia4ik�.$hxUA . A1C°e9 iG�eata 0n stan—
lards gor potential developmen a and Faid a,,P, 1.9 yt hr3 Commiksa-pion,, should
show conoern avvir developing tahc
�,omm. Foote said that if tho ccig :n.a' in'tent 09 .1 ^�iL0 t hanige, �,tici� that
A-ach plan should be Judged on a�as o in Tngrit,. 110, µ;eat ��.Y h Bowman had dc���
the proper thing and answered frilly tS req°airefflWIt ,
Chati-m n Noble ;wits that U'e (7,01-C 4 i.3sion vas a-ixa^.-e `l1hen they ne6:`ea,ved
�vq1,4ests that there wo3Rle- bfz� L:lan"-cordoaiill.t , and they shc'r°.Ad judfjo ea
req'ue,s3 on whetheir or nor: thei ex-Is,'tl ng p--operty Or the surroundiag Property
Would ®'t4a5'L5 i%3enL , yi}6 .1. *r the added strk44:.tuze z
Motion by Comul. FC-CA"F>, s=ZcOT-idod by �"�e6 im,. Toole to appYOV0 thy; eCi,:3&
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,. "Z4 as s<��;�.i'--p.�.a �o a'a„ o-, 1-he zone�.;*_»�i� Nr ,.1
P.P�I:)r�v=r' �,ari . a»ths yv
}+YrCaa pF�-q�j. deny �!. `� v«irE::ywthose :.0W:i
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6r i-o either appz,.-ove or ;died--,yv y
AY ES Comm. Foote, YIWAn-ger.. S�ablsr, Toole, Vatters, and
Ghaiiz,aa Nob1c,
'N0"SB None
ABSENT: Comm,, C<o;N
Lotion by Comm. Foot ;,;. seconded by Comm. V atters that Resolut'On
P. Ca 154-779 be adopted- rescomanendiag was Lot 5, Block Z , FLrst addIttion,
to ITHemosa Beach ' t act be changed Lom R-44 with R-2 Potential to R-2
subject to Fre:",ise ?118A #23� '
YES; (_"omm� Fccte„ Mullfingex, , Stabler, Toole, '%tatters and
Cha Lyman Noble
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Motion. by Goomm. Stabler, seconded by Comm,,, Foote, to re er studl rof R-
in this area to Zoning Coommit eee Unanimous
4r!ditional T3se Peernit • aggLessa aznjo.s- 601 Pacific Coast Highway
A CondittOnal Use Pa it issued to Leigh LaRue to conduct; an open air
business, subject to conditions:,
City Planner Grawfccd explained that since this business had not comyHed
wtt,h the original stipulations of their Conditional Use Permit, a public hear-
ing was berg hold to consider whother the C ondittonal Use Permit should
be revoke4. He reviewed various actions of the Commission durixig the past
two years in extending the time Itna t to accomplish these requirements, and
said that the applicant had acizta requested an extension of ti.F:ae because a
new Manager would be bnstayled ,uho ,nould comply with conditions impos
Public hearing opened-, 8:46 p -,m
b�r s, Mc&&ven;, rspiesentative for the Perjris ChIna Manufacturing Coompany;,
said that an older, reliable man who has managed the San Bernardino es-
tabls.shmantc , would be managing the Hermosa store, and she anticipated
that It would be stoc6.ed with the landscaping finished in two weeks time,
She planned to have twi.s' edi junipers in the planters
Public hearing closed: 0:54 p.m.
\ ,� Motion by Comm, Toole,, seconded by Comm, Foote, to postpone the
4,l✓- "bona JseM ` iaxe UntiN the, rje�' .t' An". ing of the
fc�tr3s:i�t.�£ t3�C7L^?' 'il?c'p.ply ?thCa mAr.i-
Gi?47, ;
ttanx, and that a be subiattred at%d the gav,rager praseW at t[W
meeting
A ESe Cm0M_M� Foote:, PAuiiir;ger, Stabler„ Toole, Vafters(and
-0ha irman NOW0
NOES: Norge
ABSENT: Gomm. COUts
A Gonditia��as ,ism Pe f')it to jna-v,ufacture cera a�ic products in a G�x o ,
issued jure 2,: ja69 ;-o Ronald I,--xrgseth and 1:vis �n at 246 Pacf-flc
Coast Hikghway e. sUbjeC-t to
[i1:t ° Planner �i 's+)d said a CQn %;:aG�tS !?-d k)eey coinp2ied vv tit- but
since that bustrrer s is just really gutting �arc�erwE-- r�� it miottxt �� ��tsz�
to review again tit another year.
Motion by Collin), V atters � seconded by C.s®Tr m' IV ujfinger, to extend
010 ;or)ditional Use Permit on the property at 246 Pacific Coast High` -
way far aA OVIF) Year, subject to the, same conditions
AYES: Gc:mrr ,, Foote mulftnger, Stabler, Toole, *v. afters and
u!ta irman Noble
NOES-. None
ABSENT: COMM- G0131s
City pl,.In e Grawgo.rd i3aid that: -rho conditional Use Petmit had been
c u ate�� to -ra t Qi �'nr p t!,y an Feb ua�Y r l9': �r subject to a six
manti, .e;r ievq., ne said that 'th{r' Iandscax,=-ng bad snot l e *:^ cca11ial eti g ii ,,
Mr. ; ohn Rogem b rpf TRnier Oil G:�mpa W Lls st'Fed tl'.e G0'Tkrn.isstvr~ Lha" �hp--
stip-i'Lation on 3andscaning viot.id by taker! care of to tvuo T.vaeks ,
motion by Comm. V afters v=ontded by Gomm � Toole to ccrnpd Y with
landscaping requirement and return to the Commission at their next
Foote, Mu.�,ffi3V-96A i, Stabler, Soo!®C V' i1FE. �. awl. and
Chairman NOWO
NOES: None
ALSENT; COMM- L 01"is
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:<c d-iraw of Zone Vetor"CO-riz: ian ,:'�� '�s�; o lx�4� Semis anc �ec���tig ui �7zeF�t„
Cv, :. Plar:.ner Crz� fc� d rey�lc �r�ed pig is �oa-nmission actions on this business
closing with the statement that the applicant had been allowed two wee!.s to
remove all automobile parts and other incidental equipment, and that same
had not been removed,
Mr. '3eoige Yorg, 1026 Manhattan Beach Boulevard, Manhattan Seaoh,
stated that although many offers have been made to rent this property for
m: faura nts ;, dance heaps,., etc. c. the ownero were very careful to choose
an acceptable tenant. He said he had looked through uses allowed in the
C-@.2 district and could not see why the Conditional Use Permit would apply
in thio case, as It was not any more detrimental than a pool hall. He said
that it is very difficult to separate the saals of parts from the sale of kits.
He said that since there was a lease involved, it would be very damaging
for the owner if it were breached.
:!�w. Deg Smidt applicant, commented that there were three senri.ce stations
and a body shop within three blocks, and other stores whera used equipment
is sold. He said he didn"t feel his business is this type as they are not
doing any manufacturing or selling of used equipment, and all the presently
stores equipment will be removed when the other building is finished.
City Planner Crawford recommended that the resolution be amended and a
list be included as a guide to the operator. Mr. Crawford clarified the
point,, after considerable discussion by the Commission on whether It
would be permissible to sell related parts for the dune buggy and mini --bike
kits in the C-2 zone, that the answer might lie in granting the separate
sale of automotive equipment that are part of the kits.
Motion by Comm. Toole, seconded by Comm. Watters ,, to amend P. C .
154-769 to add"except that up to seven different display models, not
for sale, may be aassembled,,"and "except that the sale of new automotive
parts which are part of the dune buggy and mini. -bike Fits is permitted.
AY ES Comm. Foote,, Mulfinger, Stabler., Toole, V.'atters, and Chairman
Noble
NOES � None
ASSEINTT.- Comm. Collis
South Ardmore 2,2ne hai
City Planner Crawford displayed some amps which encompassed the study
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the P.lanZ !"ng CoE'aimissLon has 1,11a de corleCanning zone cixn ge: in the South
a --a. sad said the final recoE"Cxmer-da-Lion of the Planning Cor:iE is£ Oti
sh;_wL-;n on the over. -lay is R -3 for a erything, east of Ardmore and souti of
'tn,d Street;, and R-1 with R-3 Potential noath and west of Ardmore.
Coal r,r Stabler suggested discussing the matter with the R--'3 zone, and
Corj�m. V7 tters said tilat lAt.s committee was forming a ci€:izen"s advisory
committee for the Herondo area,, and would like his committee to be In-,
volved in this also.
.1an�aed QGvelo Mont Zone
Comm. Stabler reported that at the last meeting of the commit -tee, City
Planner Crawford had presented as ordinance from Indianapolis which dealt
with a land use Intensity scale., fixing opera space ratios,, car ratios, living
spice ratios as absolutes. it set up thirteen different zones each of which
took a slice of 'the scales and said that this is vhe wad k��slciir�g should be
withLn a particular zone. He also said t`rmt the draft of the Planned Use
Development is finished and is being evaluated by the Committee.
Comm. Foote suggested that the draft could be submitted to the American
Institue of Architects for them review and coments. The next tseeting of
the Committee will be August 25, at the Surfboarder Restaurant.
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City Planner Crawford recommended that a public hearing be set for August
17,, 1970 to consider the revised R-3 zone. Comm. Stabler moved, Comm.,
`Poole seconded. So ordered,
ReYIs i�0xaa to Art ictes 13 and l-i c9 Cif, ZonIncl UrcLi�.a€ 0e,
A public hearing has been set at the August 17, 1970 meeting to consider
there revisions. Comma Mulxinger moved, Comma Toole seconded. So ordered.
h�agifiG ga$st Hi htra4 .. r vernent Cc�,m[�kUpe
Comm. Watters told of the progress being made by the combined efforts of
the Improvement Commission, Planning Commission„ Chamber of Commerce,
city staff and crews to update and refufbish Pacific Coast Highway. A walk
lied been held and a letter dispatched to ali remea h..ants in the area. A mass
meeting will be held August 20,, at °Vasek Polak's showroom.
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