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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_70.09.21 UnsignedMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF T'E PLAI°3NING COV 1lISSION FIELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAtVIBER.S, CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1970, AT 7:30, P.M. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:33 p.m. by Chair -man Noble.. ROLL CALL: Present: Comm. Collis, Foote, mulfinger, Stabler Toole: Watters and Chairman Noble. Absent: Done Motion by Comm. `U4`atters, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger, to approve the minutes with two corrections: to note Comm. Toole's absence under "Roll Call", and to substitute "Haight" instead of "will." in item 5 on Page 3. Resolution P C;. 1.54-782. Motion by Comm. VVatters, seconded by Comm. Toole to approve Resolution P.C. 154-782 as amended to react "Haight" instead of "will" in item 5, page �. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, Stabler, Toole, ilk atters and Chairman Noble. NOES: None ABSENT: None Resolution P. C. 154--7B3 Motion by Comm. Toole, seconded by Comm. Stables to approves Resolution P.C. 154-783. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Stabler, Toole, �, utters and Cha innan, Noble NOES: None ABSTAIN: Comm. Mulfinger ABSENT: None Resolution P.C. 154-78 Motion by Comm. Watters, seconded by Comraz. M,211-finger to approve Resolution P.C. 154-784. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mul.finger,, Stabler, Toole, Vj. atters and Chairmaca Noble. NOES: None I-BSENT: None -18 - osolut3on P. C. 154--786 Motion by Comm. Mulfinger, seconded by Comm. Toole, to approve Resolution P.C. 154-786. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foot®, Mulfinge?, Stabler, Toole, Matters and Chairman Noble NOES: None ABSENT: None Resolution P.C. 154--787 Motion by Comm. Stabler, seoondef, by Comm. Foote, to approve Resolution P.C. 15 4--7 €17 . AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, Stabler, Toole, '°atters and Chairman. Noble. NOES: None ABSENT: None esolutior. C. 1547$5 Motion by Comm. Toole, seconded by Comm, Foote t to approve Resolution P.C. 154-755, AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Wiulfiiger, stabler, Toole, Watters and Chairman Noble. NOES: None ABSENT: Nome 4mend e= t of xtic,le A of t i p nc N.S 15I City Planner Crawlord explained to the Commission that the proposed ordinance would amend the R-2 zone in its entirety,, and lists under per- mitted uses certain of the conditional uses which are now listed in Section 1000 of the Zoning Ordinance. It would separate ft¢ors2 the R-3 zone such conditional uses as circuses, outdoor entertainments and hospitals. Comm. Noble asked hove tandem parking would affect it. Mr. CraWord said one of the proposals is to eliminate tandem, parking for required parking by amending Section 1159 (S) of Article 11.5 of the Municipal Code. As proposed, it requires that all required 01-U-street parking spaces shall be directly accessible from a street or driveway, except that extra or visitor ✓paces. in excess of required cuff -street parking, may be tandem where access is f.am an alley or private drive- way. He continued that a rear yard would also berequired, with pro- visions to allow single story accessory buildings to occupy up to 50% of the sequin rear yard. In the case where you have a 20' rear allay, the garage level could comes up to the.. property line, as presently allowed, but the living portion of the structure would have to be set: 10' back; or, 20' back where there is no tear alloy. Comm. Collis asked iir. Craw,164d if a rear yard was deftned� Mr. Crawrora said it was a line drawn paeallel to the reap: lot RI-1e. He said that the apartment houses that area now being built are uttlizing every square inch of yard and are about 22' from each across rear alleys and only tan feet where there are no alleys. This .rakes narrow, dark alleys, because in nearly every case, the apartmants are three story. Comm. C611ts said that living conditions have become too crowded and that the rear yard is an attempt to try to open it ip. In the case of back -3- yard to back lard, there is a 20" set back on each lest. He asked if a garage can encroach one-half way into the rear y4rd. Mr. CrawfoW concur -red and added that in most cases what happens is that they set the garages ten feet from rear lot "pine. in cases where they have accessability to a side street: or alley, they go clear to lobs line with garage, and use the top as a dark. Comm. Collis said that this doesnut seem to allow much flexibility of design. Comm. Nkatters commented that we are develoying a Planned Development Zone ordinance for the needed flexibility Comm. Collis was talking about. Mr. Crawford addled that the back yard proposal should salve one of the problems that we ran into on the 21st Street proposal where the 45-foot- high threes -story building is five feet away from a neighbor's backyard. Chairman Noble said he would like to see some refinements to using this idea on different size lots and how it would affect those subdivisions. Public hearing opened: 8:15 P.m. Henry Rado, 720 - 24th Place said that he had read the Planning Commission's article in the Newsletter and he was interested but could not make a comment on the ordinance as he didn"t knew which side to comment on. No other persons appeared to be heard. Public hearing closed: 8:17 p.m. Comm. watters stated that he thought changes to the R--2 zone should bs adopter[ at the same time. Comm. Stabler asked haw long it will take the Commission to formulate both and said that if they held off until they came :1p with another proposal for R-2. they may delay putting into eff6ct s0rn0 good ideas. He said they should upgrade the parking requirements as scan as possible for apartment buildings. Comm. Nvatter's agreed that the Commission should consider they R-3 zone at this time. Comm. Stabler said it would affect the zoning subcommittee. He thought that seance of the ideas that would come out of Planned Develop- ment Ordinance would have bearing on other commercial zones as well as R-3. This ordinance is of dire mead to tte city right now. He said he would not like to see the Commission consider R-2 until they had gene through Planned Development zone --4- coamm. Foote said that the Comn-jissLor, could go ahead and complete this ordinance and not be so concerned with tandew parking at this time but he felt that the tandem parting provisions should be included. Mr. Crawf0d indicated that the tandem parking ameadment would stay in the parting section of the ordinances but if included vioul€i be au$anded along witch R-3 changes as a package. comm. Collis added that he didn't thirst he was in complete agrea gent on the retaining of the 1-1,/2:1 parting ratio.. He said that whether you have two units or three units, you can't get by on less than 2:1 parking. He thought that tandems parking could wort May well as extra spaces where you have enough room. Motion by Corte, Watters, seconded by Con3as Stabler to tnc ude the paroyosod revision of Section 1159 (S) In the proposed change to the Zoning Ordinance of Section 600--608 (Peticle 6). The City Planner said that concerning Secdon 607, if it was the Com- mission's wish to change the warding relative to off-street parking they could strike the second sentence and go back to Section 11 and change 1151 (C) from I-VZ spaces to two spaces for each dwelling unit. Comm. Collis said that such was hais intent, and that the density that the city presently has without any changes would according to their, General Plan allow over 35a006 people in the city. Consensus of opinion of residents is that they don't want that high of a density. A 2;1 parting ratio is not only necessary for automobile ?carting, but would indirectly help lower the density. Motion by Comm. Foote, seconded by Comm. watters to accegSection 607 of the resolution with the corrections noted theron. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, Stabler, Toole, Watters and Cha h-man Noble. NOES: None ABSENT: Hone Comm. Stabler said if tbae commission could get 2:1 parking, that it wouk decrease density enough. Comm. Foote suggested that the Gommtiss�,on drop the density to 750 square feet per unit. d.5 - Chairman Noble sa€d that density control is best accomplished by parking. He asked if the Commission wished to raises the lot area requirement fasm 600 to 750 square feet per unit. Motion by Comm. Watt s, seconded by Comm. Tonle that Section 1151 (C) be amended to requires two paa:ktng spaces per unit and that the minimum land area per unit be 750 square feet of lot area. AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfing-er, Stabler, Toole, Nutters and Cha itman Noble. NOES: None ABSENT: None Mr. Crawfc d statzd that proposed Section 606, proposed changes of Usable Open Spaces He indicated that the ordinance s oty requires that every dwelling unit provide two hundt d sears feet of usable open space for each dwelling unit. The revision wouki allow 1/2 of that to be provided on balconiese, lie remainder on mound or docks above non -living space, such as garages. Chairman Noble asked if the Commission should eliminate the wor6ing „over non -living space" and require a material that would be ImpervIous. Comm. stabler said that it was possible to have wood decking as a regular backyaW area fps a rear unit. He said he would like to ese the minimum width reduced to 10* for sidayards, every lot should have side -- yards equivalent to 10% of the lot. The Commission agroed. Comm. Foote added that Section 603, side yards, should be changed to read "shall have side yards, each equal to 10% of the width of the lot. " The Commission agreod. Comm. Foote moved, seconded by Comm. Watters that the Commission approve the ordinance as amended and foz a aril to the City Council for their action AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mul€inc, er. Stabler, Toole, Watters and Chairman Noble. NOES: None ASS DN T: None Tenth Street CIosur9 car RedesAn City Planner Grawfcre presented a petition signed by residents on loth Street which suggested the closure, of Tenth Street near Pacific, Coast Highway in an effort to re xcs the heavy traffic aaw travelling down ths- street as a result of the reorientation of Aviation Boulevard at Fac ific Coast Highway. They also recommended that a Ti�jht-thin only be pcnvi tted onto Pacific Coast Highway, He also infnmed the (0ommission of a letter from Mr. Jack W. lathb un� � 0. Box 1073, Parker, AT[zona, owner of ffAe pa[sp y on the northwest corner of 10th Street and pacific Coast lqighway4 objecting to the closure on the basis of good business developme:rt. Mr. Crawford further stated that the Police Daparttment had objected to the closure on the basis that they object to all dead end streets, ag:d the dire Department because it wouldd make the fire 'hydrant inaccressLble® He said that a review of the traffic pattarn had been conducted by the Engineer- ing staff, and that theLr opinion favored Keeping the street open to avoid loading up adiacent streets. The surrey shred a definite inc ease ire traffic on 1 Gth Street during peak hours, indicating some through traffic was using lath, Street as a bypass to Pacific Coast Highway. He said Chat traffic was backed up from St'i'l Street to loth Street can Pacific Coast Highway making entry from Aviation dtfficult at times. The staff recommended investigating re -phasing sae Pacific Coast Highway traffic lights as a first steps The several methods of abstructirg entrance and, exit from. Pacific Coast Highway were illustrated, He added that the Gerfiral Plan pmjectsd Nei Street as a major cowAuercial thorough- fare through tits block, eventually serving the beach. Public hearing opened at 9:27 p.m. Mr. Mike Stranger 600 10ih S s• at, said that the vsrhole ,phra,Jom began when Aviation's traffic pattern viaF altarala arid, all the tt'affic started down 10th Street, and often the cars do slot step at the bottom- One dual -wheeled truck last Friday night cut across the sidewalk., Collis-., Would you be adverse to the study as recommended by r. Cra-mioxf ,' By Blocking the street off we are not solving the problem but creating one for someone else. Would you be agreeable to the recommendation that the change of signalization at the corner of Sth Street would help` Strange: The traffic pattern has already been developed. A member of the audience had several suggestions.- a traffic sierra directing -7 traffic to Pier Avenue, right -tuna lanes, p::,rktag on only one side of "fie street, a sign requesting traffic to stow at op of hill. During its discussion the Commtsston added rephrasing the signals on Pacif4c Coast Highway, and a temporary barricades to determine what would actually haWen were the street to be c :t off, as additional steps to solving the probleam. Chairman Noble directed City Planner Crawfacd to repot to the city council, and with the Council*s conswat® to pursue the following Ideas; and transmit tho results to the Commission* 1, Contact State Highway Department to see if signal phastnq on Pactfic Coast Highway ca€fl be jln,�roved to relive rash hour congestion. 2. Places diarectional signs on AvLatton and Pacific Coast Highway indicattng location of Pior lmenu_- and Beach. 3. Partially barricade 10th Street (to cross/left turn �Taffic) Or, a tem-p:}:,ar'y basis, and detzrraipA resultant traffic flow change (a sh%, week project, by staff estimate). 4. Restrict on -street parking on 10th SWast during hours of 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Place a speed. limit sign on lilt. StrAot. 5. Do not close 10th Street unless all other avenues have been ®'diausted, and it is detwt-mined that a real I-saaard exists. So ordered. nco i €_ it�;,3xigs City Planner Crated summarized the staff recommendations for disyosal of city properties by dividing them into three categories., (1) -No future public use, (Z) Public Use potential, and (3) Possible usable for public purposes, but better used privately. Comm. Collis felt very strongly that any monies derived from the sale of any of the 1, goperty should be set aside for park development, and Comm. Watters coma,3pted that the city needs money for all capital Uapsovements. Motion by Cormn. Stables:, seconded by Comm. Toole to accept the Planning ]directors recommendation with the added item that any propasty sold in residential zopsd propsrty Aovide 3-1 parking, regardless of zone. AYES: C•o �J. Carl".is„ r"oote, Mulfi ger, Stabler, Toole, ' at;ers and Chatiman Noble. NOES: None ABSENT: None a8- Motion by Coma. Watters, seconded by Comm. Collis, that tiac F'tartanin, Commission recommends to the City Council that all m0nies d0rived Lrom the sale of uncommitted city properties be earmarked for specifa.c capital improvement projects. The Plain-.ing Comraai.ssion will undertake to establish a list of recommendations , AYES: Con1m. Collis, Mul4inger, Watters and Cha3. an Noble WOES: Comm. Foote, Stabler, Toole ABSENT: None City Plannar Crawfoni stated that during .the first year of the fi-t a year piano the city staff is proc,�eding with yrojects alsoady started. Comm, Towle recorAM611ded that this discussion be scheduled for another meeting. Seconded by Comm. Wattess. Unanimous. Comm. 'utters said the next committee mestbilg would be 'Wednesday, September 23,, 1970 at the Pancake House. He said that he has. been mak- ing are of t 1"o get large d0vGl0per8 interested in the area and would appreciate any help he could get firm other Commiss Lon members. City Planner Crawford presented a letter opz y owners iTa this area objecting to a six wait apartment building on the basis that it eras a familly residential neighborhood. He said the i3-3 zone established this evening would be a big step toward this goal. Comm. Stabler said that In this type of davGI Pment, they would have haq to obtain a variance if it hadn"'t loses? for the open space Mr. Ciaw ,ord said t13We ware th:M8 c:vursas of action: (1) Charade ;hs: R-3 standards, (21 Cro- ata a f la�ai�a� i:•eve]kopimera` 7�iac, d and (3) Cltat� o the zone to R-2 . The Commission directed Mr. Crawford to virits a Better to the persons signing the petition informing them that the Cornmission had received the petition and that they agreed that this type of development is wrong for the area, and list the alternative actions they could take. -9 - Los Agge ejSoLiFlMGek�+�rr3� ?Ian City Plahner Crawford interpreted a series of sheen raps containing various types of Lnfcrmation covering all aspects of ga°Owth in the County. He emphasized transportatton and the plans to yrovide open space. Motion by Comm. Toole, seconde-�R by cola . watters to adopt Resolution P.C. 154-783 requesting the City Council of Harmosa Beach to advise the Regional Planning Commission of certain disagreements vAth the proposed Development Guide for Los Angeles County as follows; A. Eliminate the "Coast Fzaeway", connecting same instead to the "Haw,%orno eaway",, which as now planned,, creates a traffic bottle neck at its junction with the San Diego Freeway. B. Extend (revise) the mass transit routes to serve the Sout"a Buy area, including Hermosa Beach. C. Rethink the arterial scaet system which appears bo reduce this city to a transportation corridor. D. F vide rno-e depth to the water and c1 er utility service planning Y }i R. T S ;� Ragiona v `s�Lo Uo City Planner Crawfv,d recommended that the Commission members read the profile for background information on-:hanges in travelling habits. owMev Zerg ).A2.�-R222tLcfs, t� i�ra, h_gdule City Planner Crawford said that on the advice of the City Attoir ay the City Council cancelled their public hearing and requested the Planning Commission to reschedule a new hearing and make a new recommendation on the Bowman rezoning, The Commission agreed to the rescheduling. City Planhw Grawfw.d said that the property presently zoned. railroad right of way and yawned by Mr. Schmolle,e was not rezoned R-3 aftee his objection at the City CouncU meeting. did uncl 7ti ir.ies 1 �r t taag comm. Collis reviewed accomplishments of the Underground Utilities -Io- Committee meeting, saying that the areas of gmatest concern in the city: are: Pacific Coast Highway.., Pier Avenue south to southern boundary; From Pacific Coast Highway, Pier Avenue west to Monterey; South and of toga on Hermosa Avenue (l block section); and Hermosa Avenue near Greenwich Village intersacticn . He further stated, that the recomirten€led distrust was Pacific Coast Highway, but the entire street would cost $375,000, so they were considering doing it in two stages. They are also recommending that the County be asked for additional funds for the Improvezen't each Comm. Tools explained that the Deach P',an Committee felt it died not have enough available information at this time to p.°assent a recommendation to the Planning Commission, primarily because they had no concept of the cost involved. Staff information has not been forthcoming, and th(rzo has been little Interest from Councilmen. ,Asq . jtv3p r,. ,, , .; - Ill - Au o Motion by Comm. Wattets, seconded by Comm. Toole to adopt Resolution P.C. 154-781 inte,,.peeting the meaning of .Resolution BOl (1) relation bus- Inesses not conducted entirely within a building and establishing automobile repair garages as one such business. AXES: Comm. Collis, Mulfinger, Stabler, Toole, Wattecs, and Chairman Noble NOES: None ABSTAIN: Poste ABSENT: None Adjourned at 11:05 until October 5, 1970, 7:36 p.m. CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes have been approved by the Planning Commission of the City of Hermosa Beach at a regular meeting held on the 21st of September, 1970. SATE JOE B. NOBLE, Chairman JAMES D. CO:i.1,IS, Secretary ��