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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_70.11.02 UnsignedMINUTES OF ` FE REGUIAR ME'ETING OF THE PIANNIN a COMMISSION HELD 1 T THE CO�%3C1I, C , Cam'§: !WL, HERMOSA 3 EACH, ON MOND, 4Y, NTOVE V BER 2, 1970, AT 1.30 P. M � MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:30 PM. BY CHAT MAN NOBLE. ROLL CALL Present: Conimiss ioners Collis, foots, Mulfinger, Stabler Toole, Vv atters and Cha man Noble. motion by Comm. atabl d seconded by Comm. Toole to approve the minutes of the October 20, 1970 meeting. nme to ..ZS4_ Public bearing to consider amonding Article 2 - Oeflnittons, Article 6 - R-3 Multiple Family lone and,A-rticle 11.5 - off-street parking. City Planner Crawford explainsd that all owners of R-3 zoned property in the city had been notified of the hearing. He than outlined the uses of the R-3 zone saying that it allowed a density at this time of one unit per 600 squaka fact of dot area which is equal to about seventy-two units per acre He said the Cameral Plan indioates that the apartment area should have as a maximum density about 750 square feet for each dwelling unit, although it anticipates that rat all R-3 properties wil,l. be developed with apartmeret units. Based on this density, the city can accommodate, as a maximum population, 25,000 to 30,000 people, but at the present rate of growth and density of development, may reach this figure by 19000 Because of the problems created by this high rate of growth, the Planning Commission Is attempting to redefine workable development standards for the R-3 zone. He then read the amendments proposed by the Planing Commtssion, and said that the City Council had final jurisdiction and could accept or reject the proposed changes, but that the Planning Commission felt that it had an obligation to survey the city contianuaUy and make recommendations to the Councils Public Dearing opened: 0:05 p« m Mr. Levi Alton commente-i on various aspects of the ordinance, specifically that as usable open space increases, density and the height of the buildivag should go up; that d©letiorh of -the tazidem parking is very close to exproprta-° tton of property® and that in the case of 2 for 1 parking, the felt this was not a proper area for an ordinance,; that if the city is too restrictive, it will affect development in Hermosa Beach; and that the market -place will dictate the growth rage and pattmra Mr,. �'xd�cWlG`111d YcxL;j, I�DU MU'. hElf,,'t' 'T Bc K. ch wished to 5;:aUtiC".ik'�, the Sw,; i1?G�' teCi53t th'_-; 70"id'-ag lative Comr ittee of ',Bay Boazd o'," Realtors, had ograve do-ubtz abau`, what would Happen 10 value 2, '1.,Yhen large 4istrira-pts are made nc.'a- conformi.ng. Ada. Tranic Anton ich, 1294 V,"-. end S.- ot, Sand P 'dra, said Chao developers should he givers i c ntit-as. to, ursatm, wad build something to alRe-,,riate the problem, and which wouid Justify tip- cost of subtesTantan parkizax _ Mrs. Mary Easier, s.100 :'monteray Boulevard, suggested the use of on - street parkE ag, raYhLF uhaa, off— atrw, % parking by-v?ideniag the streets to the dedl.cated Umits. Vhi{ah would pwimtt curb parking. Mr. Pete` Pi3yt n, 855 Loma Drive said that the city was discouraging peo- ple with all the R-$3 developme.a; that instead of having R-d lots, R-1 shouWl he encouraged with private, hames of higher value. r. Ray Lyon, 60 F rst Sheet, feft that the n=mhar of garagms was act impoytant so much a& an ordinance to enforce parking In those ga ues instead. of using thein fa" storage. Mrs. Rath Gannon, . 42F. Manil atta Avenue said that if you have R-3, you should at least have tas'.�dem p-a-r ing., Mr. Art Balchera, ION,) Mal —_,ha ar% Avenuo, said that the two to one parking requirement encouragez -34aopL-s to own more c«tra, and the fact that you can- not make an alUwatio a to E ing bul2dbig without bringing it up to code provent3 him from eemc—itng his old hutidfslg and replacing it with ga now four -unit building. Mr. Clayton ahu.iae , 312 2'5trand, said he thought tote requirements Were already tsar restrictive as far as open space, and reek yard requirement complicates the Woblow, ru`!7 trying to provide a residence with sowe itieso He added that he felt that commercia) permits should be curtailed, to eliminate the p=73le Qt so many people ck oraing to the beach is the area, which he felt was the real reasua for the congestion. Mr. Lee Linden, 837 Twenue, was enthusiastic about the effort at press being made by °:.ha Plamaing Commission, and said that; if the city remains as it is, it will lead to deterioration, and shico the potential is so fantastic-, a higher elentent o society should be brought into the area, U with large sins of invested money in multiple dwellings, perhaps Haigh rise. A Page 3wA �r �e s S yy P'la��nAng a.0ok�+ha ii,&�,7 6i oS Nw.9ember 2.0 1970 C--o ission on the, yr,a,po sd 2:2. par tair;equi",- cant. .E'+BIr® Ka l RaLie, 145 aWindenv $aid lie t"W'-Vt think- 2 �.,�arkLng rat to would i4 holy, aPthat If half,?. tl,* c At Ir v7a F'. 4e'Ws'n W'S6d azad Apcon-ciLA'n�o Sg,: tnq, of money might tame a dim v o,.n inv,.Fe3tfag. comm. Stabler comme-naed that 2',-e R-3 zo,.aod prqyiertr was m ore Rike 20% of the city, rather tlhan oae-hal'v, Mr. TAO ENPhardt, 168 First tr0r,%,, said that he has an R-3 'lot, but didn't think he would be able to buUd a rauel4tiple unfit because of the rear yard requiTwnents J since he can0ey ate .�cvh } ;t,a garage to the house. Mr. Harvey Dennison„ 234 First Goan, asked how many parking spaces would be generated by the y € x::ez,t to the ordinance, and the Commission estimated an increase of 2:5% mare parking space than is being buUt now. r® Bill Engle, 1534 Strand, said he was aware that thy® were many bootleg apartments in Hermosa Beach, a 5r!d there were no lasts in force to stop this situation which he felt was a far rywve pertinent problem,. Mr. Vern Benson, 1155 Longfellow Drive, Manhattan Beach, felt tt as the, rei� restrictions in the ordixtance would create an unhealthy Invantrsent climate. r. Walton, said he believed that the p-Eoblems baying discussed w-tee popu- E,ation density and the parking of automobiles, He said that by Changing the building codes in such a r-imer, now apartments would ha�re what is known as total security ga7agin9, and wvulld encourage p -ple to park in the garage instead of on the street. He felt it wa: uid encourage people to buigd better structures. Mr. Bob Viaulto wag - Sth Street, said that If the additional spaces w e going to be required, one of the first conatd rations should be to relieve or lift the dwee story limit, He said In adjoining areas the. first one or two stories are used for parking, and the 4t.h stagy is used for a TPc.-®ational area. He was to favor of 2:1 parking, beat felt it was necessary to go higher in the mxnber of staties. He felt this will force the issue of high rise, because in his opinion if the city doesn't have high rtse, the ordinance changes won't accompltsh much, OWN Page 4 Novamb(,'. 2, 1970 r. T� �+mmgqCyyappmp��sg�kp��., 17th Sixee�t, �rsaid� that�Ypha city should' e orize the Arescont ftlaws ,, and have. a '+s't_rl3Yte ii a-.",w:.h over yarl i.11'fi�V: w+kaci�k Ai�rTs eluting the summer moms. He said thg.s -tvou ci cm-.aU a lot of oxtra pariking by non— residents Mr. Chuck c"D#onnall, sz-.id that by apa nt its in 1-`er osa Beach the city would be making t acen.va,.,n¢cally u;nfeasibIft to baugild.T Mr. jive Donlon, 32-1 th Street, said he would like to see the Planning Commission. restudy their propositions bscavv3e € e felt they ware too res- trictive. Mir. Toni Gross, 551 - 3rd Street„ vAsThmd to have thw purposes of the 0-din- it e°® restated, 6response,,r Fw � � ,� C� .�lJ 7 b-C i�1;8 at �h6 COI�?, �,- ission how to S!) eliminate dat,�riaratad houses, t,Z) halt the Irdorcasing con- gestion in thhs city, ,particularly In khe R-3 zone a path people and auatomoc bil®s a and (3) to :?blRaw m(xre closely the General Plan adopted years ago., Mr. Earl Steals, 0"11 - fti: Street, felt: that the city should stall allow tander.� parking Mrs. Kathleen Briggs, 32 9- 117th %xeat, was iooncarned, with hour iatg for due, increased population U R-3 is reduced Mr. BUI Engle and Mr. Art Ealchmzk dlscussed the size of lots in relation to Rai buildings and the value of the property of smaller dots should the mdinance restrict owners to R-1 'i%fiwes .because of the parking situation. Mr. Engle felt that the oldwz hcw.es will only deteriograte ftrther under these circumstances,. Comm. Stablar commented Chat one of .grobleans that lies c once�."ed the Planning Conanission is that dour ag the past ten. years the city has lost man families in the age group of 30 - 50, those who have discration.aa:y income which v uld hells set the econor« �c pace of Hermosa Beach, and the city has much faster g awth of young peoplewith smalleK inccmos s The City Council has been concerned with. the parking pr aras as they exist in the city and has sevewal times requested the Planing. Commission to restudy the R 20 zone Mire Ray Kundinger wondered what -her he could use the open, space for a cart as he felt it Might he wise to inoraass the eeguiremorat !or parking, but was cwvcemed about get-Ung specas can the lol,_, 4� a 5 Planning Nay,-mber 2,, WON it h Joan rit o 6ie JanncsF �N%ro mu , aiis?kvd %Asther, if the Commission ission Passed this OMUf iancm tviruibas gay unUs from give to fau?, east would ap ;a; p�e 1-a7�, : s sf i lw—g 'r at a�.ts to wwvapeople in on to ��' their taxes and soar- payments. S'��a suggested sy-4"ort:ing the extating occu- ,pancy laws. B&. Crawford aasw� r,� d tliat the city •�ras cl,'E the ga€lure to condaria to occupancy laws;, but that the lzind$ordaa are the ways e,y people that can really enfa. ce this p €ris ion. His aaW klhe c Uty Tvx*u-x1 assist Uie Iandlords in and, way pos stble. Public hoering closed.- 10:20 p. in. Aft.-- cmiment by each of the Coo-mrission rso MOO. 1% Peak C OWrA. Towle, seconded by Coma- MWIRn—OF-1r, to c0iltinlue ti.t& Public hearing until Novem- ,Xho Commissionwo ir.41,,cated film they valy Ust"s lest in Several points ra Wa-d by the audian,:-o as e. �,hlishcr�i to �`;tudY th0". aRp ts of the a:dinance a iaten tc, more testina ny at the nwa ms t,T,ng. i - CQ�,,%. Stabler said at the last committee meeting they p=,It tag&ti-jer prejimi a3cy develoyme t standards for the R-2 potential None an the St?•,3 d and would give it to Cite Commission at their nemt most- i g. .jg said the evilni ni.ttee h;a<j a g—gead on tha UDwing: ]• .mere should be a pMR61.11a to the develo 4ent criteria which w0uld in ' 01, to the tollawi g rat�onalgzations or obj tives: a. To induce owner cccuptOd family oris ated ra sidences; b. To provide econo-mic support to exis"AN and futile property + wmftsg c, To d1scourag6 absentee d. To appr=-I atsly matrtafs. Via prose!at d&rzity i<ra accordance with. thq ger.,aral pli-a; a. To provtege incenttx,;-e for .yew, je-velopmvnt awl renovatf.on that would gbre a higher val'::B j,atjo of structure to property. 2. The tLjoiar,,iGaal c,it °ia v;e j-Aea i;npc';rct a ff to r� ppo�t the ab ve° Mats d pu poses are: r Pr; 1,, 1970 b. The allowarwea of, tandam p+attd.:w; izr. The all vance of two liv"4n,, :VzCrs above a garage, but not to w,:Ce& i 3,15 flat in d. A minimum size f6r aEe fk'zl unr4it of 1„500 sq. 9L. and Uhm ac and unit at 65V sq. ft xc- on& bethrocm 750 sq. ft� fa'-' a b rocnrls.; and 900 s� fi ft., Rwb `threw bedrooms. u Any proposed plan must. shov°, 1) A p)ot plan tly A 1 8" scale floor plank,, 3). AJU four sides a le vati"na.e ,ass t.,ny plan clja.rxges or correctione� aaust be rsapjwoved by the Panning W13cLT isSton . �n¢t vp 011T, l f GA)naw, to att-?.Ts said that his coramittes had mot with the residents of they :�"ktll SGOUOn of the rUty and a cluc.at.iorM wire was to be sent to the members of ,,lao area asking thom. what type of deve.'.opm� ant they are loakfng Zorward ` ' o ba 4med °..a,xx. the city improvemen'p s that wi:q be coming through. omm x Vlattsyr s, said the committee had explored ac me a.`+t natives ami had a final racommendation to meet the needs of tl - ar-tisans in, the city, and peolp.ly who visit the city. A statistical sepm,is be hag compUedb and it will be e�sented to the Commission �:l a 6pt Fv all, cCiGrCinatadr CPr% �a ler G'X'5:AX6ft spoke of the, one -day planning conference at Cal :Pcln,, ':n Axilona On Hnreniber 14th, and ;Ihaipe,dli many of the Commissioners ccuF k) catt&3n& 'Idjournment at 10e 2 pw m, uniii�vembar 15, 1970 at 7:30 p. m. GERTIPICATION ?: 1tevjby certify that the foregoing minutes hanva been approved by the Plannuig Conami ss ion of the City of Herinaosa Beach at a regular meeting he id Okl 2 � d oaf' NGI,an-Sbe , 1970„ DXT Joe B. Nobler, Chairman 7% .mTs Dv