HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_70.12.07MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON
MONDAY, DECEMBER 7, 1970, AT 7:30 P. M.
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:33 P. M. BY CHAIRMAN NOBLE.
ROLL CALL: Present: Commissioners Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, Stabler
Toole, Watters and Chairman Noble.
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Foote, seconded by Comm. Stabler to approve the minutes
of the previous meeting.
AYES: All
NOES: None
Resolution P. C. 154-790
Motion by Comm. Toole, seconded by Comm. Watters to approve Resolution
P. C. 154-790.
AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, Stabler, Toole, Watters and
Chairman Noble.
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Amendments to City Zoning Ordinance
City Planner Crawford said that the public hearing had been closed, but
that the decision had been deferred until this meeting on the two Ordin-
ances; B (R-3 zone) , both the rear yard requirement and adoption or rejec-
tion of the ordinance itself, and C, as amended, (parking) adoption or
rejection.
The Commissioners discussed a 10' rear yard requirement on R-3 lots where
there is no alley which would require 20' between living quarters, across
rear lot lines but allow garages 5' from the property line. Where there is
an alley, garages could theoretically encroach to the property line. Comm.
Collis said that according to the Planning Commission's recommendation,
any structure that is now non -conforming and is destroyed, will not be
required to meet the newly proposed conditions as set forth in this ordinance,
but only the existing ordinance requirements. He said other cities have re-
quirements which do not include such a "grandfather" clause. He said he
would recommend that we allow six months and after that time all structures
must conform with the new ordinance.
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Chairman Noble said that the intent of the "grandfather" clause had been
to prevent hardships on existing apartments.
Mr. Crawford said that if Mr. Collis was worried about application of
Section #609 to buildings that are voluntarily removed or enlarged, the
ordinance doesn't apply to this kind of case but to where some act of God
destroys the building. Otherwise the normal non -conforming regulations
would apply.
Commissioners Toole, Mulfinger, Foote, Watters and Stabler agreed with
Chairman Noble about the retention of the "grandfather" clause.
Motion by Comm. Foote, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger to adopt the
amended rear yard requirement of ten feet, or twenty feet between living
portions of buildings.
AYES: All
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Comm. Stabler commented that the provision of usable open space met the
letter of the law but not the spirit of the ordinance.
Comm. Collis favored increasing the minimum width of balconies to 6' from
the 5' which will make them more usable.
Motion by Comm. Collis, seconded by Comm. Foote to amend Section #606
defining usable open space pertaining to decks or balconies to contain a
minimum sixty square feet with a minimum dimension of six feet wide.
AYES: All
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Comm. Noble then commented that the lot area per unit requirement was to
be changed, as a result of extensive study, to 750 sq. ft. per unit.
Comm. Collis felt that there should also be some built-in incentive for con-
solidation of land for increasing the standards.
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Comm. Stabler discussed the lot area per dwelling unit requirement and said
that the General Plan has recommended forty-six to sixty dwelling units per
acre. He commented on a recent study by Berkeley showing concern over
density, and said he had determined the density in Hermosa Beach as 12,400
per square mile as compared to Berkeley which has 11,500 per square mile.
He said he thought increasing the lot area per dwelling unit from 600 to 750
is still lenient in relation to restrictions of surrounding communities. He
thought that perhaps the Commission should even consider more deeply the
effect of density on environmental pollution.
Comm. Noble agreed that better control of density was needed.
Comm. Collis thought that a weakness of the ordinance the Commission is
writing is that it applies to all the R-3 zoned areas whereas some of the
areas should be rezoned because of economic conditions. He also felt
that in case there are delays in getting this ordinance adopted by the City
Council, a moratorium should be placed on new building, although anything
now in process should be allowed to continue under the old ordinance.
Motion by Comm. Stabler, seconded by Comm. Foote to adopt the proposed
Ordinance B as amended.
AYES: All
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Comm. Noble complimented Comm. Collis on the study he had presented to
the Commission on apartment development in Hermosa Beach. However, he
felt at this time that the Commission would be premature to increase parking
requirements further, which would possibly restrict development in Hermosa
Beach. He felt that establishing 750 sq. ft. alone would be adequate for at
least the next two years. Comm. Toole agreed. He said that he predicated
his feeling on a discussion he had had with lenders in the savings and loan
industry in the area.
Chairman Noble continued that people are desirous of eliminating the deter-
iorated image, but he felt that 2:1 parking at this time would create a situa-
tion from which it would take a number of years for the city to encourage
people to build again.
Comm. Mulfinger said he didn't wish to encourage "cracker box" develop-
ment which had occurred recently.
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Comm. Stabler said that the Commission had a number of things to consider
beyond just development for development's sake. He said that the Commis-
sion had tried to determine what the actual parking needs were, and that
in the beach area alone there had been an increase of 18% from 1969 to
1970 in the demand for parking stickers. He said he had checked with the
neighboring cities and he didn't feel that 2:1 would be stifling, since Hermosa
Beach had had a greater pace of construction than the other cities. The total
units constructed this year to date, excluding November and December, is 70
units in Hermosa Beach, 14 units in Manhattan Beach, 8 units in El Segundo,
and 846 units in Torrance. He felt that the city should actually be holding
back development, looking for quality rather than quantity.
Comm. Collis indicated that he was concerned about the cost to the city of
not obtaining adequate off-street parking. Other cities' apartment areas had
wider streets, larger lots. He strongly urged adoption of Ordinance C.
Chairman Noble said that the city was coming out of the doldrums of a "hippie"
image, police problems related to unrelated persons, and that 171 substandard
houses have been condemned and removed. He felt that the city was moving
too quickly. The increase of lot area per unit requirement by 25% is advisable
rather than more restrictive parking.
Motion by Comm. Stabler, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger to adopt Ordinance
C with amendments.
AYES: Comm. Collis, Foote, Mulfinger, Stabler, and Watters.
NOES: Comm. Toole and Chairman Noble.
ABSENT: None
Potential Zone Review
City Planner Crawford said that as a result of an application to build an
apartment house on 21st Street near Pacific Coast Highway which had been
appealed to the City Council, the Council had asked that the Planning
Commission study potential zones throughout the city. He explained that
the potential zones in question had been established when the automobile
dealerships were moving from the downtown area to Pacific Coast Highway.
Although they are zoned C-Potential, they generally are in residential devel-
opment.
Chairman Noble directed that the Zoning Committee make an analysis and
report to the Commission.
Set Public Hearings to Amend General Plan on Biltmore Site
City Planner Crawford explained that at the time the General Plan was created,
the Biltmore Hotel was in existence. Since that time it fell into disrepair,
was condemned, sold at tax auction, purchased by the city, and the city has
been entertaining proposals for development which would serve as an anchor
for the downtown area. The City Council Biltmore Committee would like it
zoned for high rise, with no restrictions as to whether it will be offices, a
motel, or residential. He said it would be necessary to hold public hearings
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and to obtain testimony from citizens, after which the Planning Commission
will recommend to the Council whether or not the General Plan should be
changed to allow a high rise designation on that site.
Chairman Noble directed that public hearings be set for January 4, 1971
and January 18, 1971.
AYES: All
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Introduction of Planned Development Zone
Motion by Comm. Stabler, seconded by Comm. Mulfinger to set the date of
December 21, 1970 for a public hearing on the Planned Development Zone.
AYES: All
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Review of Conditional Use Permit for Take-out Food Business at 201 Hermosa
Avenue (C-69-10)
City Planner Crawford reviewed the history of the business and said that all
of the conditions of the permit had been adhered to.
Motion by Comm. Watters , seconded by Comm. Toole to extend the Condi-
tional Use Permit for one year subject to the same conditions; and requesting
the applicant to consult the Improvement Commission regarding repainting the
exterior.
AYES: Unanimous
NOES: None
ABSENN: None
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Mr. Alfred E. Bowman, 2024 Strand, requested that the public hearing which
the Council had asked to be rescheduled by the Planning Commission be post-
poned until the first of the year, due to personal matters.
Motion by Comm. Stabler, seconded by Comm. Toole to reintroduce at the
second meeting of February for consideration of a time to reset public hearing.
AYES: All
NOES: _ None
ABSENT: None
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Zoning Committee
Comm. Stabler said the Zoning Committee had had a meeting the previous
Monday to which they had invited people from the R-2 Potential Zone be-
tween 18th and 22nd Streets to attend and although only ten to twelve
people were in attendance some very excellent points were developed. He
said their determination at that time after hearing the concerned residents
was that the Committee should take the ordinance and look at the technica-
lities with feedback from the Building Department. He said they would hold
ordinance in abeyance until they had a meeting with Bud Trott to answer tech-
nical questions. He said they would like to present the precise development
criteria at the next meeting of the Planning Commission. He said that the
next meeting of the Zoning Committee would be at the International House of
Pancakes, 7:30 a. m. on December 15, 1970.
Land Development Committee
Comm. Watters said that a meeting had been held with the residents in the
south area of the city, and that they were going to form a property owner's
association. The survey material is collated, and another meeting will be
held to go over the results on December 8, 1970 with members of the Improve-
ment Commission in attendance. He said they hoped to schedule speakers
knowledgeable in rental in rental agreements and other topics of benefit to
the members.
City Planner's Report
Mr. Crawford said that there had been a request from the License Review
Board for an interpretation of the Zoning Ordinance concerning the line
between customer service and manufacturing.
Comm. Toole said this would need further study and consultation with the
City Attorney. This determination was needed for Lido Leather Works located
at 1403 Hermosa Avenue.
Comm. Watters said that the matter could be taken up at the next meeting
of their committee and a report made at the December 21st Planning Commis-
sion meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: 10:45 p. m. until December 21, 1970.
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CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes have been a-pproved by:1the
Planning Commission of the City of Hermosa Beach_ at a. r6gular meeting
held on 7t f December, 1970. f
JOE B. NOBLE, CHAIRMAN
CO LLIS , SECRETARY