HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_69.08.18D20TPES OF THE RBCULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HELD IN
THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON MONDAY, AUGUST
18, 19699 AT 8:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL - Present: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble
Chairman Boice
Absent: Comm. Hamilton, Stabler
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Collis, to approve
the minutes from the regular meeting of August 4, 1969, as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Motion was made by Comm. Collis, seconded by Comm. Himmel, to nominate
Comm. Noble as Chairman of the Planning Commission.
Motion was made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Chairman Boice, to nominate
Comm. Stabler as Chairman of the Planning Commission.
Chairman Boice moved to postpone voting until such time as a hill
commission is present. Unanimously agreed.
PROPOSED FREE CLINIC
Use not listed in Zoning Ordinance and proposed to be conducted in
C-3 Zone at 809 Pacific Coast Highway.
City Planner explained that a basic question to be considered was,
"What zone classification does this use belong?" In this particular
case, the Planning Commission is authorized by the Zoning Ordinance
to add the proposed use to the list of permitted uses or state that
the use falls into same category as hospitals and sanitariums and
requires a conditional use permit. Further aspects to be considered
in analysing the use are: what is adequate parking for use; whether
use requires public transportation; what hours of operation would
be reasonable; how close to residences should it be allowed; and
is the backyard to be used as part of the proposed business?
The City Attorney stated that if the Planning Commission determines
that the use is in a conditional use permit classification, a permit
must be applied for and a public hearing held. At which time the
Planning Commission could either approve or reject. Otherwise, the
Commission could determine the specific zone for the permitted use
thus eliminating the conditional use permit.
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Mrs. Virginia Nolan, spokesman for the Clinic, stated that the idea
was conceived by the Interfaith Community of the South Bay, a non-
profit organization. Proposed operating plans were taken from the
Hollywood and Long Beach operations. Building will have an off-
street entrance, a director's office, examining rooms, lab and pharmacy
combination, and counseling area. The staff is on a volunteer basis,
the hours will be from 6-9:30 P.M. Simple, clinical diagnosis will
be made, anything of a major nature will be referred to Harbor General.
Mrs. Nolan stated that it would serve indigents and elderly persons
as well as hippies. She estimated that 10 to 20 persons would be
served in a normal evening.
Chairman Boice asked what type of medication would be given. Mrs.
Nolan replied that the Free Clinie Would be governed by the same
rules that govern clinics.
Comm. Armer requested the City Attorney's opinion regarding the
classification procedure. Mr. Mirassou replied that there was a
basic ambiguity regarding this use, and that the Planning Commission
was charged with determining its proper location. If it can be placed
in a zone classification no conditional use permit need be required;
or it can be placed in a zone with a conditional use permit required.
Chairman Boice asked if any off-street parking was available. Mr.
Trott, Building Director, replied that none was. Mrs. Corazza,
owner of the property where the use is proposed, said parking could
be provided.
Chairman Boice asked for the staff recommendations. Mr. Crawford
replied that the staff felt that the use could be allowed in the
C-3 Zone, which generally covered the areas planned for multi -purpose
uses, with a conditional use permit, since it is similar to hospitals.
Comm. Collis asked what criteria had been used to select this par-
ticular zone and location.
Mr. Noble Palm, 1827 9'm Street, Manhattan Beach stated that Hermosa
was chosen: (1) because of its central location to the So. Bay
cities, namely Redondo Beach and Manhattan Beach; (2) space was
available; (3) because of the "walk -in -trade" type of patients it
would attract.
Comm. Noble asked if the applicants had testimony from other commun-
ities regarding nature or success of use. Mrs. Nolan replied that
the Hollywood clinic was very successful.
Comm. Noble asked what areas of attraction the applicants anticipated
serving. Mrs. Nolan indicated that the facility was to serve the
South Bay area; that it would not be a social center.
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Mr. Gerry Evans, 2026 Palm Drive, Hermosa Beach, stated that he felt
there was a need for this kind of service in this vicinity.
Motion made by Comm, Armer, seconded by Comm. Himmel, to classify
the Free Clinic or this type of clinic to a C-3 Zone, subject to a
conditional use permit.
AYES: Comm. Armor, Collis, Himmel, Chairman Boice
NOES: Comm. Noble
Motion made by Comm. Armor, seconded by Chairman Boice, to adopt
Resolution P.C. 154-747, to encompass the previous motion for the
reasons that the use as classified is compatible with C-3 definitions
in our Zoning Ordinance and in our prospective general plan and in
the guidelines that we have been attempting to achieve. In addition,
the reason for the conditional use permit Mould be because it has
been historically accepted as part of our use of conditional use
permits in this City and that we restrict uses which are not com-
patible with similar clinical operations.
AYES: Comm. Armor, Collis, Himmel, Chairman Boice
NOES: Comm. Noble
Comm. Noble voted against the resolution because he felt the words
"restricted to C-3 Zoning" was not necessary.
Comm. indicated that it would like to have a doctor represented at
the next meeting to discuss what degree of medication will be given;
testimonies from communities having Free Clinics; information on
the size and scope of other clinical projects.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 69-16
Application for a conditional use permit by Tastes Freez Commissary
in order to construct and operate a takeout food establishment with
outdoor dining facilities, on lots 16, 17, and 18 of Block 11#
Hermosa Beach, know as 1029 Hermosa Avenue.
The City Planner reported that Tastes Freez requests to construct
and operate a takeout and open air food establishment having a metal
roof and walls of more than one color. He stated that the use as
requested poses some serious problems because of its particular
location. This type of operation normally is vehicle oriented,
located on a through street and catering to a takeout business.
Applicant anticipates a substantial amount of walk-in traffic at
this location. City has had police, juvenile, litter, and traffic
problems with this kind of use in the downtown area. If use could
change operation from a takeout food establishment to a restaurant,
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eating within or in an enclosure, a different set of factors would
be involved.
The City Planner listed the required considerations for this type
of conditional use permit:
1. Hours of operation: 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
2. Distance from residential uses and zonings
Twenty feet (across alley).
3. Damage or nuisance from noise, smoke, odor, dust, vibration,
unsightliness, light.
Most probable nuisances:
Noise, human and mechanical; odor, cooking and
garbage, light from late hours lighting.
4. Amount of off-street parking:
Eight spaces proposed with extra -large turnaround
area. None are required (in parking district).
5. Hazard from congregation:
Experience with similar establishments in this area
(Taco Heil, Winchell's and Poster's Freeze) indicate
that considerable hazard will exist from the congregation
of large numbers of juveniles, automobiles and motor-
cycles.
6. Precautions taken by operator to assure compatibility of
the surrounding area:
Unknown at this time.
7. Site of proposed business in relation to size of streets
servicing the area:
11th Street is effectively a part of the city's parking
lot. Hermosa Avenue is a heavily traveled, divided
street. No signal is provided at 11* Street for left
turns. Vehicular access is limited thereby. Could
create serious traffic hazard if volume of vehicles
is heavy. Use of establishment normally greatest
during peak traffic hours.
8. Other considerations:
a. This kind of use is normally oriented toward
vehicular traffic. The conversion to foot traffic
orientation usually creates the problems Taco
Bell has been experiencing.
b. Uncontrolled open-air eating areas have generated
problems. Laren Der Wisnerachnitzel, on Pacific
Coast Highway, has created debris problems,
although according to the Police Chief, it has
been mach less of a nuisance than any of the down-
town takeout establishments.
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Petition received from Mr. & Mrs. Olsen, Lamb, Kahler, James,
Freeman, and Mildred Misen protesting use at this location.
The report from the Chief of Police was presented,, indicating present
and anticipated problems in this area with this type of use.
Public hearing opened at 9:11 P.M.
Curt Spradley, President & General Manager of Tastee Freez, 1101
SG. Cypress Street, La Habra, stated his type of business does indeed
eater to teenagers because beach areas attract this�,Articular age
group; that he had shied away from enclosures because if there are
going to be problems an enclosure compounds them whereas an open
area aids in controlling them. However,,if the City requested that
they enclose the area, they *vuld do so. Also, it disturbances
arose and complaints received, the premises would be patrolled.
Building was especially designed for the concealment of unslightly
equipment and a certain amount of noise abatement.
Comm. Noble asked how enclosures would compound congregation prob-
lems. Mr. Spradley replied that juveniles congregate inside on
cold evenings.
Comm. Armer asked if the applicant had talked to Taco Bell owners.
Mr. Spradley replied that they had not.
Comm. Noble asked if applicant would be willing to hire a uniformed
guard. Mr. Spradley answered that they would if needed.
Henry Bowman, 216 Strand, Hermosa Beach, stated that he has a part-
nership in the property adjacent to proposed use. Because of the
age getup who frequent this type of operations, the potentially
explosive problem of disturbances is always present. Due to the
late hours, noise from the area is a detriment to renting. Also,
there has been and will be a serious litter problem.
Don Hersey, Manager of the Sea Sprite Motel, stated that because
the wall adjacent to the residential property is two stories high,
the top apartments can not be rented out. Also, he wondered if
fumes would travel upward if the wall were to be removed.
Public hearing closed at 9:28 P.M.
Comm. Collis stated that he could appreciate the applicant's prob-
lems, but that the best intentions are not enough. The Comm. has
a responsibility to the people in the City in considering this
type of request.
Chairman Boiee stated that he felt no one on the Commission wants
to keep business out of the City, that a dinner house in this location
would be welcome, but Taco Bell's problems indicate serious drawbacks
to this type of use.
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Mr. Spradley said that he appreciates the Commission's position
and the City's problem but that they have a unit in Tustin which
has no problems while a facing Jack-in-the-box has had problems.
He said that if the location is a problem location for us and the
City, we shouldn't be there.
Comm. Armer stated that he felt Tastee Preez would be borrowing
trouble in this location.
Comm. Himmel indicated that if police problems are related to
success of establishment, he mDuld hate to see Tastee Freez do too
well; that too many adjustments would be needed to make the place
work.
Comm. Noble added that he would like to see Tastee Freez in Hermosa
Beach. He read the Police Chief's closing augument indicating the
burden on the City.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Himmel, that the
application be approved.
AYES: None
NOES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Chairman Boice
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Amer, to adopt
Resolution P.C. 154-748, denying the request of Tastee Preez
Commissary to construct and operate a takeout food establishment
with outdoor .dining facilities, on lots 16, 17 & 18 of Block 11,
Hermosa Beach, known as 1029 Hermosa Avenue. The basis for this
denial is that it has been deemed by the Planning Commission that
this location would not bensuitable for this type of use at this
time due to some of the apparently insurmountable problems ex-
perienced by other similar uses at similar locations in recent
months. Based on the required considerations, this location is
not suitable for the requested use.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
CONDITIONAL USE PERmiT 6
Sixty day review of conditional use permit 69-9 issued to Pizza
Palace, June 16, 19690 and subject to providing precise plans within
sixty days.
Mr. Crawford informed the Commission that no precise plan has been
submitted at this time. A letter was sent to Mr. Kerhart, July 31,
1969, advising him of the requirements and hearing. He sent a
reply dated August 49 1969, asking for an extension of 60 days because
the operating engineers were on strike. Mr. Bacon, lessor, is having
difficulty in fulfilling obligations.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Collis to allow an additional
60 days in which to submit the required precise plans.
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AYES: Comm. Amer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
PROPOSED SATTMKFR IN Ctl-1 ZONE
Use not listed in Zoning Ordinance and proposed to be conducted
in C-1 Zone, at 30 Hermosa Avenue.
Mr. Crawford indicated that this was a use not specifically mentioned
in any zone. Applicant is asking to be placed in C-1 Zone. A letter
had been received from the Building Director stating that the appli-
cation has been submitted to conduct business of fabricating canvas
boatcovers, and canvas boat accessories. The work is done with a
power sewing machine and light hand tools. Portion of the work is
performed at the location of the boat. A determination to be made
whether this business would be similar and not detrimental to busi-
nesses numerated in the C-1 Zone.
Prime Wright, applicant, stated that articles would be sold at retail
rather than wholesale. Fabrications would be custom made. Also,
he would not object to a one year review by the Planning Commission.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Collis, that the
proposed use be allowed in the C-1 Zone, subject to a conditional
use permit.
AYES: Comm. Armor,, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seeended by Comm. Armor, to adopt Reso-
lution P.C. 154-749, granting the :, request.; , ;.' by Mr.
Prime Wright to allow in the C-1 Zone a sailmaking business subject
to a conditional use permit.
AYES: Cpma. Armor, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES; None
ORDINANCE TO AMRRM SEC. 110
Proposed amendment to City Zoning Ordinance N.S. 154 to revise
application of Section 1104 relating to use of properties with
potential zone classifications.
The City Planner stated that to place a potential zone on another
zone classification and say that the creation or expansion of normally
permitted uses shall be subject to the approval of the Planning Com-
mission, has been felt illegal by the City Attorney because of the
possible elimination of use of property. A new set of words will
have to be worked up by the City Attorney and the Staff.
Public hearing opened at 10:09 P.M.
Motion was made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Armer, to continue
the public hearing for further study.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Continued to next meeting, September 3, 1969.
LONG RM*E PSG
Public hearing to amend Sections 600, 606, 607, and 800-C of Ordinance
N.S. 154, as amended, to provide for a greater variety of develop-
ment standards in the R-3 zone and to make C-3 zone conform to
General Plan provisions, to be continued to next meeting, September 3,
1969.
Consideration of Section 600-Use Pezmi.tted, continued to next meeting,
September 3, 1969.
Discussion of proposed Zoning Ordinance amendments concerning R-3
uses and development standards,, continued to next meeting, September 3,
1969.
MISCELLANEOUS
Proposed ordinance amending Article 14 to include references to
B.Z.A. needs to be reworked before its brought before the Planning
Commission; therefore, to be continued to next meeting, September 3,
1969.
Appointment of committees to be continued to next meeting, September 3,
1969. The City Planner felt that once the election of officers is
held, meetings during the week could be held in order to accomplish
needed discussions.
Meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M.
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