HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_69.10.06MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HELD IN THE
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 6, 1969,
AT 8:00 P.M.
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 8:03 P.M. BY CHAIRMAN BOICE
ROLL CALL - Present: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Stabler,
Chairman Boice
Absent: None
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Stabler, to approve the
minutes from the regular meeting of September 15, 1969, as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
ZONE CHANGE Z-69-5
Proposed change of zone on property fronting Strand between 18th and 22nd
Streets from R-1 to R-2 on lots 1 through 7 of Blocks 19, 20, 21 and 22
of Hermosa Beach tract (continued from meeting of September 15, 1969).
The City Planner reminded the Commission that the hearing had been contin-
ued to allow opponents of the change to R-2 a chance to state their views.
A telegram was received from Margaret Abbott, 323 Monte Vista Avenue,
Oakland, a Strand property owner, stating that she favors R-1 for this
area.
A synopsis of the considerations, received from the opponents of the change,
for retaining R-1 on the Strand from 18th to 22nd Streets ,w,as read by the
City Planner:
1. majority of property owners within or adjacent to area favor
R-1;
2. rising costs would cause minimum quality construction in order
to profit;
3. revenue does not usually increase with added density; however,
tax burden does increase to maintain City services;
4. area streets do not meet present vehicular needs of residents
and trucks;
5. sanitary standards for trash containers are presently not
enforced, R-2 would increase but not solve trash problem;
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6. when R-1 zone is almost fully developed, R-2 tends to en-
courage additions to or divisions of structures, rarely
improving the area;
7. zone changes tend to reflect desires of short term, profit -
oriented owners, agents, and contractors. Their desires
should not dominate City Planning;
8. resident owners tend to maintain and improve property and
have great involvement in community affairs than absentee
owners;
9. due to Strand's prime location, owners who can afford costs
eventually own and maintain property;
10. neighborhood already exceeds R-2 medium density population;
11. R-3 areas have greater percentage of old partitioned houses
with increased access, parking and trash problems;
12. obligation of Planning Commission is to first present valid
reasons for change. In this case, owners have been asked
to justify present zoning and Comm. would evaluate our
reasons, a negative approach to City Planning.
Public hearing opened 8:12 P.M.
Mrs. Bowman, 2024 Strand, Hermosa Beach, said that her statements would
be in answer to the "Considerations for retaining R-1 on the Strand from
18th to 22nd Streets." They are: according to their votes, the majority
of residents favored the change; considerations contradict the last News-
letter which mentioned the improving and upgrading of many structures
through remodeling; narrow streets, trash problems, etc. are prevalent
throughout town rather than just on the Strand; many cities have been
renovated and now they are choice real estate sites; most residents who
live in area have been there for years, therefore, resent term "short
term, profit -oriented owners"; neighborhood is designated for R-2, so how
can it exceed R-2 medium density; and most opposition is based on ground-
less fears.
Mrs. Kelsey, 1942 Strand, Hermosa Beach, stated that on the Strand between
18t' and 22nd Streets there are 11 singles and 15 multiples. Excluding
the Strand in the area west of Hermosa Avenue, east of Beach Drive and
from north side of 18t" inclusive to the south side of 22nd Street, there
are 22 singles and 40 multiples. The total in area is 33 singles and 55
multiples.
Mary Donahugh, 2008 Strand, Hermosa Beach, stated that people in opposition
to change are depriving the proponents of the highest and best use of land.
Income from land is needed to pay taxes.
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Charles Lombardo, 1908 Strand, Hermosa Beach, stated that a survey was
taken on the 25 residences affected and 11 favored retaining R-1 and 6
favored the change to R-2.
Public hearing closed at 8:32 P.M.
Comm. Stabler stated that there seems to be some confusion as to whether
R-2 means medium density or not. The City Planner stated that medium
density does not mean a certain number of units per lot but rather a certain
number of units per acre; that the City's R-2 zone is approximately on the
high end of the medium density specified in the General Plan.
Comm. Collis stated that people compare multiple usage with undesirable
areas within the City. In working for the best land usage, maybe the
standards should be increased, like more off-street parking.
Comm. Stabler felt that those using the term "best and highest use" refer
to the economic feasibility of the land. Social, cultural and environmental
aspects also affect "the best and highest use" of land. He stated that
he has seen other areas in the City "prostituted" when zoned to higher
density. He would be in favor of the change if there were some type of
"design review." Also, the Comm. should have a strong review of the
General Plan.
Comm. Armer stated that we are not achieving the best use of the property
at this time. He would like to see an incentive to change put before these
people, for some properties along the Strand constitute a "slum." He
felt that Comm. should change land to R-2; however, he felt the Comm. was
jumping the gun unless economic, social and aesthetic standards are set.
Chairman Boice stated that he could see no need for more standards because
Hermosa Beach is under the Uniform Building Code. Mr. Trott, Building
Director, replied that the Code was designed for safety and the zoning
regulations are used for light and ventilation rather than building design.
Comm. Armer stated that design standards would supplement the Building
Code.
Chairman Boice felt the Comm. should have a workshop and come to some kind
of decision.
Comm. Armer asked Mr. Crawford what the Comm. could accomplish in further
study. The City Planner replied that the Comm. could study the feasibility
of establishing an R-2 Potential rather than a straight R-2 zone. Also,
the Comm. could devise a precise plan for these 4 blocks in which the
Planning Commission could allow them to eliminate side yards, increase or
decrease front yard setbacks and parking requirements, or could establish
some type of theme or establishment of the Planned Development zone which
would have standards for the zone. The Planning Commission could then
change the zone to R-2 Planned Development and anyone could build accord-
ing to standards which have been established with presumably the assistance
of the property owners. No one would need to come to the City except for
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a Building Permit, unless they did not want to follow the Planned Devel-
opment zone standards, in which case they must come before the Planning
Commission.
Comm. Noble felt that it was not the responsibility of the Planning Com-
mission to design buildings. If there was to be a design review board,
it would be the responsibility of the City Council to establish one.
The City Planner stated that if the City Council approved the Planning
Commission's recommendation of an R-2 Potential, then property owners who
wish to develop must prepare a precise plan which shows how they intend
to develop the lots before building duplexes. The Planning Commission could
establish certain minimum guidelines. Then the Comm. could either initiate
or allow the property owners to initiate the final zone change to R-2,
which allows the Building Director to issue a Building Permit.
Charles Lombardo stated that R-2 is progress and we should acknowledge it.
However, we are distressed when we see what has happened to the south end
of the Strand. Standards should be set by the Comm.; however, he felt
they should be set prior to allowing an R-2 zone.
Chairman Boice stated that the Planning Commission is headed in the right
direction in establishing a set of guidelines for property owners because
none of the Comm. wants to see a "piece of junk" on the lots. This set
of standards would permit building without coming before the Planning Com-
mission.
Charles Lombardo asked why not change the area to R-3 or more, rather than
just R-2. Chairman Boice replied that because of lot sizes and the price
of lots, it would be unfeasible to go higher than R-2.
Comm. Himmel stated that the ocean is the major reason for living in Hermosa
Beach and that land should be developed more intensely to reflect this
desire. He further stated that he favored R-3 Potential but not R-2
Potential.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Collis, to approve the zone
change to R-2 Potential.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES: Comm. Himmel
ABSTAIN: Comm. Stabler
Comm. Himmel stated the economics have passed the point where the single
family residence is viable for the community. He stated that he feared
people would be induced to adding on to existing properties. He further
felt that he would be in favor of R-3 Potential if inducements for con-
solidation of lots and redevelopment of area were added.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Armer, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-754, changing the zone on lots 1 through 7 of Blocks 19, 20, 21
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and 22 of Hermosa Beach tract, fronting Strand between 18'U, and 22nd
Streets, from R-1 to R-2 Potential.
It has been determined that this zoning is the most feasible method of
adhering to the Master Plan at this time and that special study sessions
will be conducted to establish standards and criteria as to the accept-
ability of precise and specific plans for any development in this area
and that the Comm. felt that the precise development standards required
in the potential zone would tend to enhance the property values.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Noble, Chairman Boice
NOES: Comm. Himmel
ABSTAIN: Comm. Stabler
Comm. Stabler stated that he had a personal financial interest in the
property under question and after a great deal of considerations, he felt
it c,Yould be a breach of ethical integrity to take a position.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Collis, to have a special
workshop meeting, Monday, October 13, 1969, at 7:30 P.M. Motion carried
unanimously.
ZONE CHARTGE
Proposed change of zone on lots 1 through 12, Block 33, lat. Addition to
Hermosa Beach tract, fronting Hermosa Avenue between 14th and 16th Streets,
from C-2 to R-3 (continued from September 29, 1969).
The City Planner stated that it was the Planning Commission's desire to
consider the "super block" approach for this area. At this time there is
no machinery to utilize, unless Comm. let the area go potential R-3 and
required a precise plan. The City intends to widen the sidewalks and land-
scape the median but this will be 5-10 years in the future. He further
stated that a straight R-3 zone would leave the City without controls
other than the Zoning Ordinance and Building Code standards.
Public hearing opened at 9:43 P.M.
Mr. Howard presented their building plans and elevations indicating a 3
story apartment house with a parking garage entering from 14'�h Street, hip
roof with mission tile, interior court and large balconies.
Chairman Boice stated, in review, that the developers had agreed to dedicate
5 feet in the rear of the property for future widening of the alley and
that the Comm. had recommended that they be allowed to come out from the
front yard setback 3 feet on the lower level and to cantilever 2 additional
feet on the 2nd and 3rd stories.
Chairman Boice asked Mr. Trott if this dedication and moving toward the
property line would be detrimental to the development and to the City.
Mr. Trott replied that it would not.
Mr. Crawford asked Mr. Trott how would it affect corner site clearance.
Mr. Trott replied that it would not affect visual clearance. Also, Mr.
Trott stated that Mr. Howard has a workable plan: handsome design, good
layouts and has more than the required parking spaces.
Mr. Trott suggested zoning the developers property R-3 and R-3 Potential
for the remainder of the block.
Mr. Crawford stated that the Planning Commission could then establish
precise plans for the remainder of the block (R-3 Potential) in harmony
with Mr. Howard's development, creating the "super block" concept.
No one appeared to speak against the proposal. Public hearing closed at
9:58 P.M.
Comm. Himmel stated that he was concerned about the parking of the proper-
ties inland from Mr. Howard's. Would parking be off the street, off the
alley, or what. Chairman Boice stated that other developments would
probably have to provide subterranean parking also.
Comm. Collis stated that these developers have made a sincere effort to
upgrade the area and the Comm. have not as yet established any minimum
requirements for the area.
Comm. Noble stated that the development fits the feeling of the Comm. for
the area and that we should move to establish lots 1 and 2, R-3 and lots
3 through 12, R-3 Potential this evening.
Comm. Himmel stated he was impressed with the submitted plans and he is
in favor of a change to R-3; however, he relunctantly will go along with
the division of the rezoning two lots R-3zone and R-3 Potential for the
remaining area.
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Armer, to recommend the
zone change for lots 1 and 2, 1st Addition to Hermosa Beach tract to R-3
and also to establish C-2 with R-3 Potential for lots 3 through 12, of
Block 33, 1st Addition to Hermosa Beach tract.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Armer, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-753, granting the proposed zone change fronting Hermosa Avenue
between i4th and 16t' Streets from C-2 to R-3 for lots 1 and 2, block 339
1st Addition to Hermosa Beach tract; and from C-2 to C-2 with R-3 Potential
for lots 3 through 12, Block 33, 1st Addition to Hermosa Beach tract.
It has been determined by the Planning Commission that this proposed new
zone would be most suitable for the orderly growth for the City of Hermosa
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Beach, and the potential classification is essential to assure harmonious
development of this buffer area.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Motion made by Comm. Noble, seconded by Comm. Armer, that a letter be for-
warded to the Building Department from the Planning Commission showing
that the Planning Commission in their change of zone for lots 1 and 2,
block 33, 1st Addition to Hermosa Beach tract, was done under the premise
that the precise plans as presented by the applicants will be accomplished
in detail prior to filing building plans and that the Comm. suggests the
front yard setback requirements be: a 7 foot front yard setback on the
1st level, a 5 foot front yard setback on the 2nd and 3rd levels and -a
5 foot dedication to the City of Hermosa Beach by said applicants on the
rear property line for future street purposes; and that they shall be able
to encroach to within 1 foot of the new rear property line on the 2nd and
3rd levels.
_ AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
ZONE CHANGE Z-69-8
Proposed change of zone on lots 31 through 46, Redondo Homes tract, property
fronting south side of 24t" Street between Prospect and Harper Avenues from
R-1 to R-2 with R-3 Potential; and proposed change of zone on lots 47 through
63, Redondo Homes tract, property fronting the north side of 21st Street
between Prospect and Harper Avenues from R-1 to R-1 with R-2 Potential.
The City Planner stated that this is a new public hearing for a change of
zone initiated by the Planning Commission at the request of property owners.
The request is twofold: a change of half the block facing 24t" Street, to
R-3, and a change of half the block facing 21st Street, to R-2. The General
Plan indicates future public facility for block. If zone is changed, it
is placed in a residential category. On the basis of the factors listed
in the analysis, any change by the Comm. is premature.
He stated that immediately adjacent to the block in question, there is a
large tract of R-3 and R-3 Potential property that has not been developed.
Mr. Crawford questioned whether there was a need for more R-3 property in
this area at this time.
Public hearing opened at 10:33 P.M.
Glen Clark, 1246 24th Street, Hermosa Beach, stated that across the street
from his property there is C-2 property. With his property abutting com-
mercial, his property suffers. Mr. Clark favors the change as a protection
for his property.
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Bob Vitale, 1212 24'�h Street, Hermosa Beach, stated that he is for the change
because the potential C-2 property across the street is depreciating the
value of his property. He further added that in other areas, where there
is a C-2 zone, there is a buffer zone between the commercial and residential.
George'Zavislan, 1253 21st Street, Hermosa Beach, asked why not make the
entire area R-3 rather than R-2 Potential and R-3 Potential. Comm. Noble
replied that the Planning Commission is trying to establish correct buff-
ering from residential to commercial areas.
Margaret Boatwright, 1211 21st Street, Hermosa Beach, stated that she owns
3 houses there and she favors area to remain R-1. Since the area is fuliy
developed R-1, it would be to our best interest to have it remain R-1.
She stated that John Seymore, 1233 21st Street, Hermosa Beach, also favors
the area to remain R-1.
Ken Allen, 1120 24th Street, Hermosa Beach, feels that the change is necessary
for area and also to protect the value of his property.
Bill LaRue, 1225 21st Street, Hermosa Beach, stated he is opposed to the
change, for he likes the area the way it is.
Public hearing closed at 10:57 P.M.
Comm. Collis stated that the City created a problem by creating more com-
mercial property adjacent to residential property and felt there is no need
for more commercial on Artesia.
Motion made by Comm. Collis, seconded by Comm. Armer, to put area into
potential R-2 and R-3 zoning as advertised.
Comm. Armer felt Comm. was acting prematurely in desiring a potential R-2
and R-3 when the standards have not been established yet.
Comm. Noble stated that it is sound planning to rezone properties that the
Commission has studied regarding "potentials" and that it would not be
detrimental to the property owners in the area.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
Motion made by Comm. Collis, seconded by Comm. Armer, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-755, changing the zone on lots 31 through 46, Redondo Homes tract,
property fronting south side of 24th Street between Prospect and Harper
Avenues from R-1 to R-2 with R-3 Potential; and proposed change of zone
on lots 47 through 63, Redondo Homes tract, property fronting the north
side of 21st Street between Prospect and Harper Avenues from R-1 to R-1
with R-2 Potential.
It has been determined by the Planning Commission that a proper and orderly
development of area, indicated that a range of higher density residential
uses would create a desired buffer between the commercial area and the
established single family area. It has been established that no undue
hardship will be created on the R-1 areas to the south and that the R-2
and R-3 Potential satisfies with the factors presented by Mr. Crawford
in his October 3, 1969, memo and that immediate study sessions will be
held for the development standards for multiple zoning.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Noble, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: None
REFERRAL BY CITY COUNCIL
Referral by City Council of Variance V-69-17 for reconsideration and re-
commendation.
Request by Allan Juckes for a variance from Section 506 of City Zoning
Ordinance N.S. 154, as amended, as applied to lot 9, block 117, Shakespeare
tract, in an R-2 zone, known as 225 & 229 31st Street, in order to con-
struct a duplex on a lot having a total area of 2100 square feet instead
of the 2400 square feet required by ordinance.
Comm. Noble stated that Mr. Trott and himself had discussed the possibility
of allowing the developer to build a 25 foot garage with a 20 foot parking
strip abutting it; allow a 0 foot front yard setback; and allow him to
canterlever if he wishes to within 1 foot of the rear property line.
Comm. Himmel asked if tandem parking was allowed under the Ordinance for
two-family. Mr. Crawford stated that as legal parking no, but as extra
parking, the City does not care.
Mr. Crawford stated that this type of plan would widen the alley.
Comm. Himmel stated that the Planning Commission had rejected the variance
because area would be less than 2400 square feet, now with the new idea
presented, he is losing approximately 600 square feet more.
Comm. Armer stated that he would like an incentive added for the people
to combine lots. Mr. Crawford replied that the area is mostly single
family residences and that the people there have no incentive for combining.
Chairman Boice stated that he was against allowing the variance because
of the lack of a decent alley and turning radius.
Motion made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Himmel, to uphold the
Planning Commission's prior action.
AYES: Comm. Armer, Collis, Himmel, Stabler, Chairman Boice
NOES: Comm. Noble
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Referral is to go back to the City Council and they can either uphold the
Planning Commission's ruling or overrule it with a 4-1 vote.
Comm. Noble stated that the reason
requirement in the R-2 zone is too
two units is sufficient.
MISCELLANEOUS
for his vote was that the land area
stringent, for 2400 square feet for
Comm. Armer stated that he wished to have someone like Frank Gehry, a design
expert, paid by the Comm. to give expert counsel because the Comm. are lay-
men needing technical advice in order to get something meaningful out of a
meeting.
Motion made by Comm. Armer, seconded by Comm. Collis, to extend an invitation
to Frank Gehry for two hours of consultation and to spend no more than
$100.00 for the two hours. Motion carried unanimously.
ORDINANCE AMENDMENT
Proposed ordinance amending Article 14 of the City Zoning Ordinance N.S.
154 in order to transfer variance procedures to the Board of Zoning Adjust-
ment to be continued to the next meeting, October 20, 1969.
Meeting adjourned at 11:36 P.M.
Next meeting will be a special meeting on October 13, 1969, at 7:30 P.M.
Next regular meeting to be October 20, 1969, at 8:00 P.M.
JOE B. NOBLE, SECRETARY