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�,0 . Collis, Siiwannit 6• lftnger, Chu am Not-
A'hsentn Qom.. Boiuej St$thl.ar
Ere by Cv_� ,� Collie d seconded by 4C."OXtr=. i l:ein,; ar, to appm 3 'stile
mimxteg fxm1 the regular meeting cf DTav-ei3.er 17, 1959t
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RwAew of Pr�aive Plan "2l for Mnland Co�w&V (part of ch anga
Tz:,3 City Plainer utated that Kenland Dvalopmwrt r&.-.tasted the Z., —blia
ha���-wg In order to present their revised prom as plau, z, tWA is part
of the zone eiwmge now before the City Gamai.l a lkwaver, tier' are not
yet rencrr. The dwfclopars atdaipa'e to be xe: : to present their rovi sad.
plw.w to the Plamia . Conmtsaim-L at the n=b reawabre
15 v 109.
P,W Ie hung opened at 7s4O gs.w-
the Precise Plan he=Lry.s Z~63-6, at the regaast of tba r_: IIeaaU, to
th-, nert regia ar meeting, Notmter 1% 1.969ai
-M,Ss Conm. Gollisg 17-Mr...,: I, MaIlInger,, Gh�sx Noble
N a u0ne,
mi-k au-F or. ` OINT� c3
R.,-que5t for cbwge of land. used zone classi. aeti. from C-2 with R-3
RV--ti&I to R-3 multiple fandly an lots 12, block .33, Herticar, facb.
tr,�it, located on the east side of f axmsa Avwwo b9twee a 14"" area 16"'
Str-xits. Initiated by City Gomail..
The City Pla=er stated that Precise Ply :`!22 was initlAted the P1 -
a tut : '•wUasion for Via block twew.. 141) aid l6`) suvats mi ramose
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6 2 -
_ Avmue; that -the Cam%. eonoida:]��jp, �at p the of
meeting, the Cit�•'ss{�pro-
pos �::t MFmn-lizat. on of th,,5 s�U..1 S . k'T i cif a 14S d an s �6i bp; and that
the Lmd rimnalopmant Condttsa diea aed the refining of the Pluxn it
Caamdssion's mcoaftwdaation far a precise plan for the area,. ne Ptrtbrsr
stated that lagal2y, iwAer the Zwdng C-rdimmees once a potential zone
is ssUbliohad over an alroady erdatdrsg acme, a precise plan 1s required
to eubtztttad and approved in ordorQ to utilize the "potential" zoning.
The City Plawer explained that the Plaming Comrlsaion has a goad deal
of latitude regarding the utaadardss to be required for a precise Galan;
for ale, .it could be a pmeisse plan as detailed as the Kenlmd
rDavolopmu plan se fixg lrra&*&pings act layouts and arobite ctam,
" drair-age facilities; or the preciees plan Mould have no special con-
ditions at all by stating that the ftmlopers awt comform to the City
ZoW-az C ce. rt,. Cr vTord thin read. Via 10 development, sundudip
prov"sed to be included by the 21=232g Conmdasion w a xfmctnp-'t require.
mumt for the precise plan for the bloc.
Public hag, --jug opaned at 7c5l p.m.
B. J. Donalmr, 1640 Strom, Normom Beachp w=vr of lot 6. a fated that
be fa6uvred a straight i-3 tons md favored the idea of R%xmoaa
Beach. Rewavor, ?r. Drmalrre opposed the Wbandarde read by W. CL.-r:. ,ord
became he felt that stardpxdW should be dram for the ®shire City :ether
than Goa@ particuUr block and acted to be tmated the as= as other
property owners throughout than W7. He ferr "md that since the area
is not eacomm:i.ca lly feasible for Co�arcial usea,, he favora d the buildlog
of Mire its, eupwially for tax purpcagers.
° W Mma Lehmmir 1520 IM� y ea AveLm:, Harmm Beach, aver of lots 3 and
99 ataW,-d that all of the property v mar$,, with the exception of case,
favored the straight R-3 ass ch"el homvers all the omers were opposed
to a "mperblock" concept.
Chaimp-n Noble eked ice. Lshmma what theme the parlUmdasr objections she
had to the det%l ck=, a t ataarA&rdo . Ins. Leh�mn replied that sbe would
like to teaks her owa decisions rages builder concepts and was opposed
to the idea of conflondnS to a devol opment, st y? which mW soma
else 0 a plaming cosncepta $ for the area. She f ether added that the %To
of roof style and color of Wilding should be her decision not the
P1MMing Comm -legion I a
Am. dmrahue` 16W StureAd, 1'�Sa'�rimea Deachl. stated shot along with the
other prqpvrty owaars, is opposed • o the "mparblrnak" concept and favors
a st.*�•,Jg%t• R-3 zone clLange for the aar4?a.
Fublic hearing elosed at 8&01 P.N.
Cc - Collis states that he € fished to know chat ap-scifi ca lly the oppanw.ts
objected to ': egzard ng the davalap nt staadar&; for the vequi.l-Smanto axe
noml oral and he felt that soma et,3rdw4!4 may saes incompatible but overall g
they sae g�=,erally bmoficial- to the -A-itvj.v of Hermosa Bvch. Cons. Collis
enAained to the opponents that the Planning Commission is concerned with
aft development became apa�&tmmtr livift will becsam more of a.
way of life is Herazs& Beach, since more single :raudiy rarsidmtial devel-
opmmzrb is not economically feasible due to the o evnmal.y high land values,
He stet Rd -mot the people 3n the audience could see a good suampie of a
pls coed camwrd,,,7,5r in the Pox Hills Dsvalopmm% Just off the Sm Viggo
14h, axe asks-d for an erplanatioen of item 6 of the proposed de+►elop-
wwt wtordards, since he could not agrss to its value. T•ir. Crawford
explained that the block fronts. a camorcial 2 mf q which is across the
street and Is ptarU&13,g developed coxmrai ally. :�reever, the City plmw
to place a neftma at -rip from 1$0 to 16th Streets and that the Parks mad
Public Works Dements have prepared 3 ► edian pd,-wmeasS of whichs at
the last emeetiag, the Planning Camdasion recom=ded the 3rd proposal.,
oonsi.sting of landscaping ng of the entire rstrlp. Presently, the aurxent
fit yard requi.rmamtN is 10 feet but the Pimuiug (ximission is roc
ommwWIrthe reduat .on of the Yard to 7 -feet, the as--n reftation givnan
to the Juok-sa-ice devealopmmt. If the p=awzuda idea le accepted by
the City paid the praporty mmemp thcn the City tmuld take za easemmt
sever t a! Orant yard and add a swMLaiQit aroa of the preEGwt street (9
feet) to dm#el.op as I aadmeaped promarnde in front of the apa rtwits, with
deaorati%m li.ghte and paving.
Mr. llmathaas que:etioned whether the pxWerty corers could veto much a
"prowwa.de" proposal and who will pay for t1w, l:=dsaapiw,? Mr. Cr wford
replied that if dare as the Planning Caamdxaion recomwndedg and the
majority of purWert y omerz favored then premx-i cm graosalis, then the
City --could pay for the in3provement.
Copies of the proposed preeine plan taact were dia bri b,a'c d to the proper s�,-
Olners.
:fir. D=&hmo asked whether the owners hats a easy in the zoLo ahAmge frco
C-2 with R-3 Potential to a straight Ara* ',•lr. Crawford xvpliod that the
Plwuli'g Camodmion reoOMMIds zone changes to the City Council as the
advisors of the City; that the Ccim. is breaking a nimning ar.ow by b n !M
residential aerc�ss from amawroi.al, for usu lly like uses will face across
the st "Ot.
Chaim 1 Noble reconmmdod tizat sinew this Is the first meot3ng is which
the Planning Commiesion has now the shed dewelopoent standards and
because of the Planning Corcission•s laak of knowledge of this opposition,
the Co. caatIme the hearing to the next rneatirag.
:lotion wde bV Corn. Collis, seconded by Cam. Hulf agar, to omti=a the
rowmat, Z-69-89 for a zone ahaua to the ne2ct regtO-ar m3atiag, Ceow&er
15, 1969,
AYMe Ccum C6111s, Rimer -I.: bl.f uger, Ckai rmr- Noble
RV Lj&St for a�i e�.:1d G � tm,a polvit to 3ell ib'loria5<1.ic6 bsiieragaa md
p ovido eatar � "it t on lot:i 5 -mul 6 of block 4�, llermoe-- Beagh tract,
lcaae at' 3.3•52 Sta"I' d.
The Cid,�Y Plpxiaer aUted that, hearing w-&A5 dash..} d7P3r (18ad to the
property ca- aers loca thir, a rues of 300 feet fxvf, the pressed
use w-d that the requested &wlyais fmm the Po3llee m et will apt
be ready for this m-eulngls meting.
Jack Blivao 2��5 A�Un&-tCn AVGMe, TarrFMe, .and Dcu&:fd T.Ov Z30 5-`1?Q,?,4v
IsiD=sa Eawh, the applicants, yrena-A• IkO r pleat yl �Md cc t.7uiti
plaZW to t.-T Flaming C asio, �Zdieatintr, *dMt IaYar-t Plan-- of '.16
Interior am not yet cvnapleted. whey a=.loo pTaRa. to'd the Cc=,, wiv. a
letter of consent f.mm a1 b & Mrs. Willard property awes,.. -!,or the
sale of alacholic bavages on the pr art io.
I1.rn Miss read a q-uots ftvu the sconomia MaOyeui,s 3 R&I for the Graeral
Plan, prepared in ?.65" Vnich statea- that', V � ::jajp is that Ina gr'Utn
set increase in sales e the wsr of will be -4bibitad
In chopper good2,, r-apairs &nd ser7itesl arrtd c-at- -ig =1 ast li.slr:>
meats a " Projected t�E3aa in 1964 wok - S3, 430, 00 3 v to 1970 M31470 to(nr
Population projections for 1965 were 17, ; for 1970 wsre 19,3W, 11re
Bliss stated that t-he innibtr of llq aor -isty huUng cat I&W,, excluding
marketa, has drVmfrm 28 to 21, a c.5% deare;osj that ems:°.atly the"
am 2 beor barn in Her sa,, 8 bvra tha.R sari liquor and 6 a.4eEtmarants
that serve liquor. lie also mad =v huv Omm the Playa which
st3atedv "if a 425-r�,uest ream wIL- dahmimt is bLd.lt with¢. tho CityO the
a could oupport 6 to 7 move dr' ' L%S and eatirZ Da ebXiv h- k9; cad
the apppUmntu a eorrnen sw is that the c s; y lc,-O- aal arc,. for moh in
establiah-6wnt wvcaa3d be the Riltaore lot, wi.•U.-a thr� virAnity of the
proposed use.
+1r, Slise acnts=ed ihwl In ti i�xixiti'�? `j ul-th the a OmMemx
of thei ra appea a to be the not oo "Icy adz?thut on NoCiedber 3,
we tested the facility for noise trarmw ;.tal with a. honx wmect•':4 to
a 100 watt, amplifier; and on Mavcmbsr 11, we contar�-:e C. Ei. Appleg
acoustic& Baer for Douglas Aircraft, ;rho is currant y vae ing an a
noise abaft sti ri for the D-C 10. Was inTdrkl as to the tU'pa of
fixtures and type: of people need to re;Lace the nv-',:ae mMif3 as.ation
he gave us poasfible de3igw to elther derAm the ngise or thY the sir 1ml
out to the ocean.
Mr, Miss presented a list of reasew Wby they WAicants desire to o7,ra e
the business in that locatiorsa
to Adzw-ats ,: tAd-i , - p3. Jy of mrty3acw and emits to the Iotj
public p-qckinz adJolwjzs the lot..
2.0 Ca mwr'ci al zone - ne, s o" €f or ebura as 1 vioi ity.
3w r-olytins -. will IMM pr�'?,-V'apolice at .3 timers to cast
any problcws , g ac.m -Uyc„ amp e of beer.
This applicant -stated that thoy p1m t, --elzv- I.-o the; y"wing Mei plan
to be open 4. ni&ta I.. wiaeek dm�i� tho e.�rtl ar aowi= anA to *or-4* :food
after 3:00 p.-m. x-d pl.a- to hav�-;; ennaKnxai;, Tom. bliss utated that
if the acaditional use permit is iseaod,, more will be cis%
to the P- a, v6ich is a typinal marketing tmaNt epo; an appraadh taken
in !'Tarjw4tan Beach.
Donald Lee statsd tmt they tried t� research all wir' .es jx, a fib i e a -ad that
the ltl.ics ref said be would asses ray iuvemUgator to check out all the
problem fsmillar to tho area; mke che,�atar oher ; and verify the
s amastinal desigas. Furt er v '•'fr. ?,gee state'd that there aru 0"'R 7mtly
2 places in Herwaa Beach for you-Z Ito aud r;:ha'!: th V feel that witla
this tnm of ests%lWent, a age rmabor of young people could be br ht.
into the City to fill up the owy, L.p&emants that are being praposed®
Mr. Lee felt tWe, gt ple probably �xml d Wteotion the need for a anther^
tax, an the City bat that the otaor o9tablishmxits am located wray from
the domntown area and th-* t t6 ivy axe hoping to dr6a fro- a the awny oxv ds
�,tw fregtawlt T--2wIattva Beadh FawUier,, them a =,afis
in T-T,e;ahtrtt.an Beach. Where residential is a lot closer to camwrcial than
in i wwaa Beach and T%nbAtt= Bead-i does not seen to iwave any problem
witli these establishr4ants.
Jim Gmmdar, 64 lots' Stress, Ilerman Beach, statod that kilo 4 who axe
under Jaak Bliss I su?C€eri4iai an Tmd-ar reereatim departmm- t program, s n
to approve of him and he ae=Q., to be a mvi Van is quitv concera ed with
the ymwg maple; Mr. Gaa=der felt he wand rather haw someme who is
concerned -numiM a beer Im, than one who ie not.
Pao Carl ffigoian, 1318 SUmd, Hermosa Deacht stated that ahe hw 1i-VNd
at this Wdress for the pwt 1.2 years and that she is an good term with
r, Jams. Also 9 she Baas had to keep the building up w-d her only
canc3era is the problem created by liquor beamse des have uned her
place and have dirtied up the poses; and that her tenmts mm oldeir
people aid she m d hate to lose them, since good t-.R►ts are hard to
cam by.
Nw,tin fthigian, 20 lr Street, Hermea Beauh, stated that Vae idca of
private police sourAs good but doubts their effsasti- :toss teases•, he has
lived behind the Poop Deck for 2 years now and I= seen nothing out arime
in the arem with the addition of anothor L-3r mre police pratectim will
be needed wA m a citizen-* he would wcpsat it; but he doh -,&other
the Pollee Depart ax at could properly patrol the amm vines ra t; &partnmt
perammel cam cadets end the dgpox-t.umt has just on -a mtoamycla effioer.
Tie ques I:ioned the adequaa7 of the park Lag since Est people ;rill not use
the public pig becawe it is sqetervd� therefore, they w�,Al use private
pmperty for parking. He father added that eve if the appllicmasts ane
the best of character, thW arc': stop or cautral the problem •h -
selveo a
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Man � sYwad tiha7S' ,ha: beliowkd Amh?e� s' b a� co tMI, dearease3 in
b�=v in Hanmi a a =-)d I r� t IWO h!� V Tzar. a dGures" ®� r, ial the last
5 ;;e$$ ' thereforeo `&r.'�Pare obauld hv-i been a dea-(laze in pooh.® YJrOr17Isw.
soo he atAted that he Fags not seen any etudy wMcb. oarelat i3 ca.tim to
bar i,``�&aftbliz3hmmts : rb sew U,,ab Tate ll ha� -,w Pvt]'�a.%c ��
any
bar tM.m.
Tao City Kmwor wt&�,T. endear the; sVCme-
y emditiorwl
uges p3mit is requjrj�-d for azWWet&j=- 4�nt, as well as for the male of
alcoi-i-olic bw a z; therefo , the Pla ,�a? !E; Cc� Gzicgm Mexi-sd to know
SpQQifjc&l3.y %4hat Mtc7:%ai=-eent would be p--m,-.j.doA. irx. Bliss reOl:=e
that thwj tmuld have live entO.'3°tc^,I$Mut xn thO " Ok 6, p"' (MUESOry aAd
wmld have t 4�aw x , d=d 9 poaW.bly :sic but no ,fie
05.
replied thato tentatiVelys h-:W W-Ju3.d be gppar ud on Twi nrsdayc and F r G
3 3sOo p.m. to 2500 a.m., -=04 IftVM 11200 a-M, to 2cOO Rau can SWO- xMs
and ftlnd y,5. 1,7,haV hava not eeatabliahed dxeir amer arJiedul a aB yet but
hopo to be opm to coTvr the 'w a e--tz -.Qh am bad Pl�,ned for the
s.°+F3soh ate.
Tr. Crawford stated they f0110ag regal red amsi d-Drzt antra by the Plr xaa i g
Cession in order to aappra--sv., a c0ndiI,icxzI We petrzite
1w Distmea frcm exiWoi�, raai6. tiA1 mid non-oair-a-arcaial uSeS
residents locaj;ed ��� �z 30 feet fr= proposed eases®. ®rzvacpaper
office abvuu 100 feet fx�om -twe...Vublic beach and parking is
vacant to the use.
2, Azmv i of %g:rj.-Stor proposed off-street paeXI& ; e no Paedrls
problm since propaX � = iG pazwL, of the Pte. g District ®.tto
of�%get 7,e is required.
3. Location of sohoolat ei^.archosd P1eaL%ZR. 8 - no a a"rkc*Zs a r*
In the vicinity ... the. nearwt fah 'lS abet 650 feet fl-en, us@.—
Public beach pled abuts use ... aa, pedestrim r4-LzX&w3Y 41Mtz
use to the west.
4® wax of open°xaon ociparad by Mr. MIASs. of yo ®r
6. IMTztber of an -vale ea tsw o ishmo ata ill 01050 Pra.I+ ity - beer
bar is one bloat so•u Vhorly about 200 feeto ..2 rest&- mMt.3 with
alcoholic beverages to rche north about 200 Teec,...4 bmrs 3oeat--d
to so).ith about 15o0-60,0 feet.
7g Other considerations - police pivbl mas 3.3i::. m not received rk pig
...General Plan, sacs;:a location to be part of retail
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area...Clty is prepzu-ing to block north of
gropce,ed use,
The City PlMwer stated u2at the chexacter of the applicants was not
iwortant in the dar isian �t gr° �»L ��3 a eomiti mual use psrAdt; icwc-,-wr,
if the City appenla the iazius-o-ce of an A13C licame, it sW do so an the
basis of the applicant's character. Ymportence in g)%s nt3,n z the cep
diti onal use permit is based an the character of tAie use and the locatioaw
Per. 0ghigi.an if=dered if the ?.hwe was to be based on the Poop Dock or
Pier 52 baecaaaase eaa presents a different, set of prdblcr--�;. 'Mr, Bliss
replied that the use will be more on the idea of Pier 52, but sine it
is difficult to ob W-n as hard lic or liceme for this type of oreration;
therefore, they are proposing the beer bar.
Cow. jBxAwl &eke, rstethsr the a ntar"v�nt will be outdoors and will
the building be air conditioned. PW. Bliss replied, that they will
probably install air coanditi.on2mg and the stet will be Indoors
?Zr. lee stag that the circulating vents which ante in the building am
aceor-g to the building code but thoj^s air no heatlng or cooling unite
thsr a at the Prasent.
Came►,, 1ii =el asked whether there were uW windows. f 1r. Bliss rapli.e d
that theme yore no mnduwag just 3 doors and they mghlo possibly block
off one door and use the "a for Ptorapia.
Cam, DUlfinger wished to wait to see the police report and to xamee lvv
a report on the vrobluma ob egad by the Poop Dock.
Notion tide by Caaam. Collis, seconded by Casa. MMnger, to contimn
oo�ttd a l use pennon C- 2C to the next regular aveting, December
159 1969, because the written police report is unavailable for review
and consideration at this bi=i that the applieaat is to suimo It an
interior floor plan of the intaded use and looation.
AYES# Cow. Collis o Hiz a1, 'N�.a"i Pr, Char Noble
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Proposed awmmlmmt anddl-r-g Section 120u to City Zoning C%�aance establish-
ing assatsrajxmRs dwelling unit sixes.
The City Plwnerr stated that if the PlarzdM Comidssioan approves of the
twat, tho Com, sho a d then alapt an resolution reco z- d: g to the City
Comai.l that the CA?'cSt° s_d^e be adopted.
Paab]ic hZZXdj1Z crp&:10c at 9313 p.m.
'1'o oe waLs pr". ent wishing to be heard on the question.
P--abl:jc Bearing cios&i at, 9314 p.m.
Comm. Himmel asked `fir. Crawford what was the rn"t-urc. of Section 7-2.4,
that the Planning Commission is repealing as well as adopting. The
Ci t- Planner replied that the =i sting r0aul tiOnv, establishing
w:�ri.mu-,j &ellfing sizes of 400 feet for awn , 500 feet for duplexes,,
and 600 feet for single fam :L3,v,, is located in the Building Code and
needs to be repealed from there and established in the Zoning Ordinance,
Conn. Himmel wondered what area would the comet an wallAownhouee fall user.
1r, Crawford replied that if a oondmbii= or separately owned town-
house, it would be single familyl if part of = apa ;ftmt OaWlex,, then
it would be multi -family.
Mtion made by Chairman NoUie, seacnded by Comma. Tialfinger, to forward
the proposed ordina.me to the City Council for EadoptZWn-
AYES: Cann. Collis,, Himmel, Malfinger, Chainun 4dobla
HOM None
Pliotim- !n de by Chairmn Noble, seoonded ixy Conan, Collis, to p v Resolutiaea
P.C. 154- 7 --S, adding Section 1208 to the City Zoning Ordinance eatebli.shi ng
minimum dwelling unit sizes. It has been determined by the Plaming Com-
mission, through studies extwvlirg over nine moaaths, that this mininna
m- t dFmlling area is feasible and dee trable to protftc t the health, safety
and Senera.i =.svlfara of the City, and within the juriaclactiva of the Ply
Commission to recommend it to the City Council as a necessary means to
maintain the present duality of residential dsrelop t.
AYE Ss Comm. Collis, Himel, ?Ulfiingar, Chaim Noble
TIOE5a Novae
PROPOSM KMMUtU TO ClW ZONING 03RDMA=- MS 154
Proposed mendmmt to Section 1104 of City Zoning Ordinance providing
for wider application of Potewbial zone restrictions.
The City Planner stated that the P1awAng Constssion had sent the aman&
mMt to Secti= 1104 to the City Comoil with the reconwn"ti.on that
it be adopted. The City Attorney, studying it at Council level, is still
not sQ.atzsfied with it, At the last owmcil meeting, 111r. Crawford stated
that he suggested to the City Coruracil to refer the awmdmmt back to
6,he Planning Commission to be considered along with the proposed PD zone
o-Minance. In effect, the Council said they wanted one of them returned,,
not both.. 'breover, if the FD sue ordinance is ad pined, the Planning
Commission will not need the atmen t ent because the Comm. would use the
PD zone rather than the po• matial zone in such cases. 1r. Crawford staked
that it was his reco twda ti or. that the Corms. receive the proposed wmmd-
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ant from the City Cowncil And to rid nee it on the maxt ao:Mdat for tbo
meeting of Decumber 150, 1969. since all the Com, were in agreurymmt with
,&-. Crawford's rem L'ation, C11ai. m i. Noble so mwved the mamendation.
SCR. OR Ermzprj HM- ORD
lb!-. Crawford stated that the report has been continued to lim- the
comarbo of the Soefa Bay Board of Realtors. He read a proposed new suction,
"s®ation 7. 5-9 -- F+orm, 11� TA mi t" to the Plu=tng ConsLesion amid
explained
3 - that. tmW Sectim- ��V so wordtd-,. at Co.mu smggastdym, b—azare
Id. happan to Vm� sel--Urr if the W1, 9a-11Gd
of the cmumm mbowc Wbat wvu &
to pex1oiw, Cami. -%Dn't- 2-n tv adding Section 7.5-9 to the
Comm. Collis xmndr-�MO. --umd -uf:Y4,-!-5 VOW 04-ftAT leho Vm, matuarized Agmt.
WmId 3A.1 for thero i� the of &a7uns ocakrg in and saying
thW; 1%ay WIS 'dle M?,Fat and =quiring tbe Fan Mr. Crawford mplied
that the City I.Tmld .-aQAxe- W from- 'the mmer making
the parson his egantn for the ar,-'Ity "timid be r,--Amct=-xt to give a. rsport
to juat amme.
Cb,wtrwm Noble atated Ito Sx. Wm qpi�anj m soon as -the propr-,,v,- is
listed by the realtor, most la5mad rwqmest *t&e rearm RS gacxy &a poaOiblet
82 as service to the amaro
Richard ftam,, realftr, rcpmawitaidrg the Zm1mj aid Ls4ol&Uva Cos=Ltllm
of th--9 Smth Bay %axd of Rzkmltorav vt&tsd thet thq Boa.-.-d has Sp3n*, &
year,, at varimw timaRt Ste-cb.0-ng the ordinanes and it is the comuitteele
comeamms Vmt the Ordlmmoe is not really MOQSsary Emd it is a Waste
of the hmeast follow's tde will &OCOZPI!Wa Very Little, 1,1r, Feaft-3
atated th&b the ordirance win not mko an htw.G-3t ma out of a amok Pa?.d
they mill still mmWWZ6 to get vxvund the awlinamee and sell the pmpmr=
Illegally. If the seller leaven the State, It mald be timm"O mnmmi
for the City to p=somts; Ulierefore, the ardimmee is remlly not an
afftctive am. He further v�ted IW-t- if the City -seainlatratLom h,.-d
mfomlad the Z. OxMiname 30 yemm e4Ko, namme of the P--oblans ragw,-,unf.,
il3m,,Tml mito wozfld mdot today,
Cam. Collis aoked rh,,. ftars whet he manest in place of the ordinvaaa.
lUo. Fs&rs replied that if the Wilding inspector wma vithorized by the
City Cmmcil tO eyiforOe US MV 7,VAiYw-,, Ordimamaea there would be no
mmd for the ordi�zmnoo.
Corm- Collis 8tutcA that, thO P-W-080 of the olldinw-ce is to wara the
twumrj yer that the pro Mrty is nm�avnP*-mxUag, If he still wautu to
buy, ba has at least be edv.cv-Ud to Ju ugeg.
Rre Nmrs stAted that the SMth fty Board of Re,*at4ra had chmSed their
matiple listjmg fom, a few years r4o, so *.at now the per can be aw"D
of the lei]. use and zone claosifteatim e* 1%9 of the listang.
TIr. Cxwxford Wked " Plmm if,, azmwaw IN .3 -the City is going to mdapt tjo
OrdlnmcOv W" "JWre auv cozeavat from him or. the m=:Ing of it* Mr.
Nam replied that Nwhattma Bemahv Ra�ndo Boach. ,md ffe=Dsa Beach's
ordinvuees are teahmically almilex amd he preforred that they were,
00 that Just one merwrizatim of V�-b ordinmme is rNuired.
M 'I mao NTarsho 1050 Pis" AvmUW,, Hermce& Beaahaced -iahat the form will
amaist of. Chainma Noble st4itad that the folliyorl-"S will be Umjvded
m the fo-ims and ttat, no phyziea-1 impectim W.13. be ruads tuilasa requested
�- 1:4Y the -Ya-3n6r;
la e t;. eet, ad&esv, nnd, legal d,,aser ipti ;
��. ca assjfiereao aid Fj"t11ho .a ed, u-se aa set worth in Us
e 0dej
3. 000upmcy t- ins ee&ed and establishad fir, permits of record;
4. varianone and eo-nditioai.al une peas to and ®tber pwetinent
Ift'jx1ative acts of record;
5- an Special rwtrietio= iA u00 Or d:m-&1QPMWt Leh W &PPI
to axbjsot P=p3r ;
6, &W 1mown no.-m-can-A"Ibmities tad/or violation,-zi of the City Du3.l&ya
CmW or Zcnina- ragalati .
rhv, 1"UrE r st&tsd that she disli%ed the J40 ds co-a-U ey Period: locaUdl
i* "Saction 7.5-9 — Fbxmaj, Time Wit"; she felt that an inacnveniawe
Is created by ham to t 40 spa to f=d If the cam.,ar is able to self,
car not. W� *an®t the seller got the rVo in 5 %mtheffr thm 40
eaves? err. Crawford replied that; the section is for the protectim of the
seller beewbne it fom" the OiV to W-9- a out the . e),virt tip 40 ftm
wd • he fora is valid for 6 i=rt 2s. FbxUivr, the seller norms ly fiats
the report as so= as the City finishes it; but if tho City, date to some
unforeneen obviaee in the Daputj, is tumble to f#7-mish the report
witidn 40 deaya, the seller can close the sale without boini; in violation
of T ordanunge. Cam. Mimel stated t.'hat N ankuttmn Daeah and Redondo
Beach hzw an indrefinits period of tiara allowed the City to ftu%ish the
report; therefore* -this voctim is rdded protection for the seller.
Mks. IZa- zmked wta-t pwalties w=ld be imposed if the City prossouted
for a miadgs&snor. sh°. CxTn fiord replied that tbF, nxclam fine would be
0':500.00 or 6 zmtks in Jail or both.
Tex ' ry e, 1050 Pier Av�mue, Hemosa Deaahi ntat,W 'e,"t his conaaxn. WM
Vh&t the proposed 95.00 fee would not cover all. the paper work costs
involved =d within a p ariad of time, the City w-411 have to up the coat
of the raporka, especially since there is no set limit deed in ths•°i
ordinance.
Conu wwdered what would happen, to the., broker who vikUtczd the
ordinance for the 3rd and 01 dm. iTrs CrFW'J7crd raplied th : the City
could lift his liceme but that this old be a separ'zatm acti= ?
dews not need to be included in the text, of the o�cdinmoe.
r-Totica rile by 0cm. Collis, oe:conded. by Comz s Mzl:PiL�ger$ to epprow
Ropoxt of Residential BailftDs Record in its ceded form, and t"imrd
it to Zhe City Ott a:€ ll for e4option.
AXES: 04M. Collis g Mi=R . o DkIfir40ry Cudi3 "W TITO -1 e
I= i None
i--btim mdo by Com. Collie, ssooAded by Coa-*a MItiskaer, to adopt
Pt.ozoiuti,aa P.C. 154-7599 razvaa adaptim of thw Report of
Rwidwiti l BvIldIng cord on,Vmonae. It has been detezmined by the
Planning Comuiesion Oat aai d or(L.avncc will help to pro met the uMuT
buyer of real Yrarpe; that local oommvAities are in the procease or
hay* already pted a similar ordiranceS mid that. the propoEAed ordiamue
is reasmable and enforceable.
AYES s Coms. Col3•in t Mmml s 1.5ilfLager1e Cheirama Noble
NCW Z HMO
♦ rsdsed propossd Pla=edbovelopmeat cardlmaoz Graz pmventsd to than
Cowdasion by the City Pl er. the propmed eapdi:Lence vas refexwed by
Ch+eixnw Nobles to they 2*rn ng CamW ttse for atLst and r�r-port to he come -
mission at its nest met2as.
Proposad €:u;�".,a€'"=R . to Section £01 ra- ivJlaZ emaditional use pa-xmit for
itertsJzmmt.
Me City Plamer stated that the City Cecil has a-doptnd an Urgency
Ordinance,, which is good for 90 dam, placing all eater'c,aiment under the
conditional use wvia=it, At the and of that tim, the Cif mast adapt
a permnent or-divaxtce l or the City Cmmeil rra u adogb aotbv, w �casy
ordin ce at a public hezzl,-Z, The quntion before the C0003. tonight In
tether we went to not up a ytfv o hearingo so that we wn klept an ord�ac*
r"ziring anyone who aW, lies for an a ntzrlcalvwut pewit to first wire
a canditio al use permit. Also® the Plannjmg Cmaisasioan mW not want
to include e-11 fog of antertaiwenlb for a conditiowl use pest,
like juke boxes. Therefore, :3r. Cradnrd reow=anded that this provose 3
cman&mt be referred to the Zoming Caraittea, along with itea4 11, for
ftu-ther whidyl maybe the eamittee oould a rya the farm of eats-��-
��wat :roquirins conditional use P*rm.to,
The Commieeioners sAjourned 10:27 p.m. to the conf€ermee room for a
StUAY 8"Sion,
Bari F the s'Udy Session, V, Comdvai u edreaurmed the :4iGa,�'3en".,
� �° $� ag e hme, 7f=��m dcd 'a list 02 the C asimiare �A their
vdcl,. Eesmes,
crasatiamd-apurmm period to diiscus-s probleas of the tmo caiusm.
Ileac r43 adj%' mod at 11930 P.m.
Ple,' frig CO=i0siOn Of the CitV of Hiw-'-E?--siL Asa at a rzgwar
field m tbe Ir, of Dsoember,, 1969.
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