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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD IN THE CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 1974, AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order by Chairman Collis at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Comm. Burt, Chiu (arrived late), Noble, Hough, Rosenberger, Widman, and
Chmn. Collis
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Noble, to approve the minutes of the
February 11, 1974 meeting of the Planning Commission as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Hough, Noble, Widman, and Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Absent: Comm. Chiu
Abstain: Comm. Rosenberger
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION
Motion by Comm. Widman, seconded by Comm. Hough, to approve P.C. 154-950 as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Hough, Noble, Rosenberger, Widman, and Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Absent: Comm. Chiu
Comm. Chiu arrived at the meeting.
AMEI4DMENT ##6 TO THE GENERAL PLAN
City Planner Crawford reviewed the Circulation Element of the General Plan and
presented a map of Hermosa Beach designating Arterial streets and Collector streets,
with the remainder to be classified as local streets. He said the Circulation Element
has been continued in order to consider a Bikeways portion and a Transit portion of
the Plan. The Transit portion is not yet ready to submit, although there is an
experiment in progress concerning a free bus route, to observe whether it is used and
how workable the system will be. Meetings with RTD have not been fruitful.
Comm. Widman questioned the representation of Gould Avenue as an arterial street, and
cited Gould Terrace residents' objections.
Comm. Noble observed that widening of the street would necessitate acquisition of
considerable land through eminent domain.
Mr. Crawford said that one through lane, one right -turn only lane, and one left -turn
only lane is projected by the engineer for the project; and that Manhattan Beach
residents use and need a Gould -Ardmore access route.
Comm. Widman suggested showing Gould as a collector street between Ardmore and
Hermosa Avenue.
Chmn. Collis noted that widening of Gould pavement would help eliminate the present
bottleneck at Ardmore Avenue, and the future street use should be shown as arterial
to Ardmore and collector from Ardmore to Hermosa Avenue.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 25, 1974
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Ed Loosli, 3435 Strand, suggested that widening Gould Avenue to arterial standards
may only bring more cars to the intersection.
Motion by Comm. Widman, seconded by Comm. Noble, that Gould Avenue east of Ardmore
be designated as an arterial street, and west of Ardmore to Hermosa Avenue as a
collector street; that it not be extended through 27th Street, but through Greenwich
Village; that Manhattan Avenue be designated a collector street; that Priority #3
of the Circulation Element of the General Plan be stricken (i.e.,"Widen Gould to
Hermosa Avenue"); that description of the "Downtown area" be corrected to read,
"generally bounded by 15th Street, Manhattan Avenue, loth Street, and the beach.",
that two special study areas be added: 1. Gould -Manhattan Avenue intersection,
and 2. Valley/Ardmore and Pier intersection.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Chiu, Hough, Noble, Rosenberger, Widman, and Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Absent: None
HOTEL -MOTEL DEFINITION
Comm. Rosenberger said that the Hotel -Motel Definition is under consideration by the
subcommittee.
OPEN SPACE ZONING
Comm. Widman said the Open Space Zoning Classification is in subcommittee.
OPEN SPACE ELEMENT
Comm. Hough reported that the Open Space Subcommittee of the Planning Commission met
with Jack Bliss of Parks &. Recreation Commission, Sam Carson of the Hermosa Improve-
ment Commission, and Duke Lokka, Business Manager from the School District who was
sitting in pending appointment of a regular delegate from the School District. She
said they have established a work schedule calling for submission of the completed
plan to the full Planning Commission by the end of June; it will then go to the City
Council in July, and will be submitted to the State in October, 1974. The committee
also considered the items to be included in the study. The Committee meets the
first and third Wednesdays, 6:30 p.m.
Chmn. Collis requested the following information of the subcommittee: the total land
area of the City to mean high tide; open space areas owned ,by the City, e.g., schools,
street, parks; percentage of publicly -held land in open _space; and its present use.
BIKEWAYS
Mr. Crawford described the four types of bikeways as proposed to be provided under
the Circulation Element of the General Plan, and presented Map 8 showing the proposed
bikeways.
Ed Loosli, 3435 Strand, noted that: the proposed minimum width of 8 feet for bike
paths and bike lanes is unnecessarily restrictive; Hermosa Avenue should be considered
as a bikeway to take some of the bike traffic from the Strand; and bicycles should be
seriously considered as a means of transportation as well as recreation.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 25, 1974
Page 3
John Cheroske, also a member of the Bike Route Committee, spoke in favor of using
Hermosa Avenue as a bikeway, and requested some direction from the Planning Commis-
sion as to the type of information they would find most useful.
Comm. Noble suggested that the committee study the most feasible route first, that
is, the railroad right-of-way, and plan ingress and egress from that proposed bike
path.
Chmn. Collis requested that a plan submitted show, in addition to proposed bikeways,
suggestions as to how the plan can be effected, analysis of the problems, and how
the problems can be eliminated. He suggested obtaining from the city of Davis some
information on their bikeways trail system. He said the plan should include time
and cost estimates, an exhaustive feasibility study, and possible sources of revenue.
Report from the Bike Route Committee is to be put on the agenda for the next work-
shop meeting.
Mr. Loosli suggested eliminating parking on the west side of Hermosa Avenue, which
has fewer parking spaces than the east side, to establish a bike lane eight feet
wide, with two-way bike travel. He said he can get input from the California
Roadside Council.
Comm. Chiu suggested a bike path along 190th Street/Herondo Avenue.
Chmn. Collis requested advice of the Bike Route Committee and placed the item on the
next regular workshop meeting.
CONFLICTS OF ZONING MAP WITH GENERAL PLAN
Mr. Crawford explained that present zoning in the 24 areas listed allows utilization
of the property that is not compatible with the General Plan, and should be changed.
He proposed showing each of these 24 items, by number, on a zoning map to facilitate
study.
Chmn. Collis suggested that the Commissioners inspect these areas together, and a
time was set for Saturday, March 9, 9:30 a.m. at Prospect School.
COMBINED LOT ORDINANCE
Comm. Rosenberger reported that the Development Committee met and studied the
Combined Lot Ordinance which has been sent back several times by the City.Council.
He said the subcommittee has reworked the ordinance and consider it ready to re -submit
to the Council.
Motion by Comm. Rosenberger, seconded by Comm. Burt, to set a public hearing on
March 11, 1974, for the Combined Lot Ordinance as recommended by the Development
Committee.
The motion was approved by voice vote.
Comm. Rosenberger called a Development Subcommittee meeting for Thursday, March 7,
:}0 p.m.
Meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M.
Planning Commission Minutes
February 250 1974
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CERTIFICATION
hereby certify that the foregoing minutes were approved by the Planning Commission
of the City of Hermosa Beach at a public hearing held on the 25th day of February,
1974. -.01-
DATE z;z
JOE B. NOBLE, SECRETARY
S D. COLLIS,`"CHAIRMAN