HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_75.07.14MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD IN
THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, ON MONDAY,
JULY 14, 1975, AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order by Chmn. Rosenberger at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Comm. Burt, Haller, Hough, Learned, Loosli (arrived late),
Collis, and Chmn. Rosenberger
Absent: None
Also present was Rod Merl, Planning Director
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Haller, to approve the minutes
of June 23, 1975, as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Collis, Haller, and Hough
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Burt, Learned, and Chmn. Rosenberger
Absent: Comm. Loosli
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Haller, to approve Resolution
P.C. 154-1040 as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Collis, Haller, Hough
Noes: None
Abstain•• Comm. Burt, Learned, and Chmn. Rosenberger
Absent:Comm. Loosli
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Haller, to approve Resolution
P.C. 154-1041 as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Collis, Haller, and Hough
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Burt, Learned, and Chmn. Rosenberger
Absent: Comm. Loosli
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Haller, to approve Resolution
P.C. 154-1042 as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Collis, -Haller, and Hough
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Burt, Learned, Loosli, and Chmn. Rosenberger
Absent: None
160-168-1 6 HILL STREET
Request by George F. Rickert for three -unit planned unit development
(continued).
Mr. Merl said the applicant originally planned three units but now
plans two units, 160 and 168 Hill Street, oriented toward Hill Street
with several variations in the plans as shown. He said there should
be a correction in the analysis to show 66% open space.
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They will be three story configuration, or two-story over garage,
with a recreation room on the same level as the garage. The two
units would be 29 feet and 33 feet in height if the sloping -roof
plan is used, or four feet higher than the flat -roofed plans.
Comm. Hough asked if the plans were submitted before or after the
new R-1. Mr. Merl said the original application came in while the
R-1 proposals were between Planning Commission and City Council.
Public hearing opened 7:42 p.m.
Dean Abbott represented the applicant.
Comm. Haller said a landscaping plan is required and there is not a
detailed plan specifying the types of plants; and asked if landscaping
is planned in the three-foot front setback. Mr. Abbott said the 24
feet open area would be covered with grass with 5-gallon trees as
shown on the plan; they will be fast-growing eucalyptus trees; the
plan is identical for both lots; and there will be about five trees on
the lot.
Comm. Hough asked why the kitchens are on the third floor. Mr. Abbott
said this was continued from the previous meeting; his client said the
Commission was more in favor of putting them on the third floor and he
had put them on the second floor; he did not see any hindrance to
that; and the main reason was to take advantage of the view.
Comm. Hough said the design of the bottom floor with recreation room
and bathroom looks like it could be converted to a sleeping room and
rented out. Mr. Abbott said that is not the purpose; they put a
bathroom on that floor as the owners would be entertaining guests
there. Comm. Hough said the Planning Commission should consider an
affidavit if the plan is approved.
Comm. Collis said the stairwell could be closed off with a door from
that entry into the recreation room; then you would have a separate
unit. Mr. Abbott said they will sign a document if required; it is
not their intention to do that. Comm. Collis said it is difficult to
enforce such a document; the Planning Commission believes if they can
discourage that by making it more difficult they should do so. Mr.
Abbott asked if they wanted to take out the bath. Comm. Collis said
no, but maybe the plan should be reworked or revised; the way it is
presented he would not accept it; and he also thought it unusual to
have the kitchen on the third floor.
Chmn. Rosenberger asked the dimensions of the balconies. Mr. Abbott
said the units are 21 feet wide; one balcony is 6 feet deep and one
4 feet deep.
Comm. Collis asked why he has a three-foot setback in front. Mr. Abbott
said it is only a 50-foot lot; if he moves the unit back there will be
only a 7-foot setback and he did not see the need of moving them back
to the property line in the rear. Comm. Collis said one of his concerns
is the fact that he often sees cars parked in driveways, hanging over
the sidewalks and extending into the city street. He said another
question is creating an impressive entryway; five feet seems very tight.
Mr. Abbott said they wanted to keep the lot as open as possible; he
agreed that they could give more room to the entryway.
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Mr. Abbott objected to the Planning Commission acting as an architec-
tural review board. He said he would resubmit the plans and take out
the bathroom.
Public hearing closed 8:01 p.m.
Comm. Loosli said if this was not planned unit development, since it
is an R-1 zone, they could build no more than two stories high..
Comm. Haller noted that across Second Street, however, are three-story
planned unit development structures and that there is a slope.
Chmno Rosenberger said it might be a good idea to redesign; the repre-
sentations of the 4-gallon trees were not to scale; and he would like
to encourage more than a three-foot setback. Comm. Burt said he sees
no objection to the three-foot setback because it does prevent cars
from parking across the sidewalks; with 10-foot setbacks the cars are
parked that way.
Chmno Rosenberger asked Mr. Abbott if it is his intention, if continued,
to redesign. Mr. Abbott said he does not believe so; he objected to
the type of review and said it would take another month to come before
the Commission again. Comm. Collis said the applicant is within the
purview of the ordinance; the Commission's commitment is to be con-
cerned with the possible problems that could incur with design and
does not believe this Commission should be lowering its standards in
order to take something that is second best.
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Haller, to approve based on
the following conditions:
1. That there be a tree screening of 10-gallon trees on the north
side of both residences open area to provide a buffer from the
street and from each other. There also be landscaping across
the front of the Hill Street project.
2. There should be appropriate fencing and/or hedges around the
parameter of the site.
3. All exterior design and major landscaping subject to Hermosa
Improvement Commission approval.
4. Curbs, gutters, and sidewalk be subject to the approval of the
City Engineer.
5. Final Development Plan and tentative tract map be submitted within
six months.
6. Subject to City Council approval of final development plan, tenta-
tive tract map, and Coastal Zone Commission approval.
7, The downstairs room be redesigned to insure that it cannot be
blocked off as a single unit.
8. Side yard setback be increased from 5 feet to 8 feet.
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Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Loosli, Haller, Hough
Noes: Chmn. Rosenberger
Abstain: Comm. Learned
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Haller, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-1043 approving the request for two three-story units after
holding public hearing and receiving testimony, with conditions 1-8
as recorded above. It meets the requirements of the General Plan for
density, exceeds the recreation and open space requirements, and is
better use of the open space than the R-1 zone requires.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis,
Noes: Chmn. Rosenberger
Abstain: Comm. Learned
Absent: None
R-2 AMENDMENTS
Haller, Hough, Loosli
Mr. Merl called attention to the Memorandum from City Council directing
Planning Department to mail notices of the continued public hearing to
approximately 400 property owners and requesting continuance to the
next regular meeting of July 28. He said the City Attorney determined
that testimony could be taken at this public hearing from people who
would find it inconvenient to return to the next hearing. He said
this action was taken at the request of a member of the audience at
the City Council meeting.
Mrs. Betty Ryan, 532 Pine Street, said she had asked them to send
notices because although notices had been sent, only 30-4 0 people
attended, and the balance may have found it inconvenient to attend
that night. She said she thinks the people should be individually
advised when the Planning Commission does something that affects zoning,
every time.
Chmn. Rosenberger asked Mr. Merl to review briefly the proposed R-2
changes.
Public hearing opened 8:29 p.m.
Mrs. Erna A. Prince, 218 Calle de Arbolez, Redondo Beach, read her
letter which had been sent previously to Mr. Merl. Comm. Hough asked
if she is aware that she can go to the County Tax Assessor and appeal
if she cannot build R-2. Mrs. Prince said she would be willing to
have R-1; and that she opposes the R-2 changes anyway.
Mrs. George Becker, 2432 Myrtle Avenue, said it depends on who you talk
to how far you get in having taxes lowered. She asked why there
is
little enforcement of laws and ordinances already existing; Y have
turned in five bootleg apartments and nothing has ever been done; and
that Loma Drive is considered a street, not an alley, by the County
Tax Assessor and by the Post Office. She said this is getting to be
a dictatorship, telling people how to build, what they can't build,
and what to plant.
Curtis Cravens, 909 Loma Drive, said he is asking for truth in zoning;
the zoning shown should be what it is, and they should not have to go
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to a tax board to ask for something different. He said he has been to
the tax board and they did not reduce his taxes although they reduced
others in the neighborhood with similar conditions.
Dean Abbott, 1220 17th Street, asked how the Planning Commission
came up with the 25-foot building height, what type of analysis was
done, and how many lots are R-2. Mr. Merl supplied the figures
involving a total of 1289 R-2 lots; Comm. Collis explained the long
range planning concept, Mrs. Prince asked if the Planning Commission
would be willing to give her a statement that she can carry to the tax
office. Chmn. Rosenberger said the city can give her a statement based
on the code.
Mr. George Becker, 2432 Myrtle Avenue, questioned the statement that
only 374 of the 1289 R-2 parcels would be affected by the changes; if
homes were destroyed by fire, many people would not be allowed to
rebuild; and every person wh❑ owns R-2 should be apprised of the changes.
Public hearing continued to the next regular meeting of July 28, 1975,
at 9:05 p.m.
1129 TENTH STREET
Request for re -hearing of legal determination (continued).
Mr. Merl said this item was referred back to Planning Commission by
request of the City Attorney; the Building Director recommends recog-
nition as a single-family dwelling, and is also concerned about spot
zoning. Correspondence was received from Mrs. Madeline Altorfer in
opposition to the granting of three units. He said this is a new
public hearing and has been re -advertised.
Public hearing opened 9:18 p.m.
Samuel C. Polk, Attorney, 1409 Monterey Boulevard said he was retained
by Mr. Bettiol who lives in Portland, Oregon. He said the building
permits in question were issued in 1957, one year after zoning change
from R-2 to R-1. He said he was advised by Mr. Tom Clavell, July 9,
1974, that his application for a license for three units was being
denied because the Building Department showed two units; and that the
recommendation for legalization is for only one unit.
Chmn. Rosenberger said the information shows that it was never anything
but R-1. Mr. Merl said it is shown as R-1 and as single family.
Mr. Polk said there is a substantial doubt about the legality under the
Constitution regarding equal protection and due process. He cited the
loss of city records; and the fact that this was allowed to go on many
years, a situation where not only the offense but the defense is lost
in antiquity. He read the letter from the city requesting information
for the records.
Mr. Merl said this particular case came about as a question of licensing
not as a result of the letter. Mr. Polk suggested that the Planning
Commission consult with the City Attorney for an opinion of the Commis-
sion's powers.
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Mr. Shawn, 1122 Tenth Street, said neighbors also have equal rights,
mentioning garbage, parking on the front lawn, blocking of driveways
and weeds. He said as a property owner he has a right to have his
property value protected; and if the Commission can make determinations
about other properties, they can make determinations on this property.
Cena Shawn, 1122 Tenth Street, said one of the determinations that has
been made is off-street parking and this property has a single -car
garage.
Al Hodges, 1020 Prospect Avenue, said when he bought his property he
looked at the map. This was R-1 and should be a one -unit property,
then he found there are three units on it. He said he had wanted a
barbeque in back, but with three units there, it is too crowded.
Frances Dannin, 1118 Tenth Street, said the main problem is off-street
parking; cars parked on the front lawn, and sometimes cars partially
blocking their driveways.
Frank Bower, Manhattan Beach, said his sister lives next door; the
Commission has voted 100% against this before; it is R-1 property, and
he hopes they will vote against it again.
Pearl Hodges, 1020 Prospect, said if the Planning Commission is sincere
in keeping density down she does not know how they can do otherwise
than vote no.
Mr. Polk asked if the Commission considers as relevant the testimony of
bad neighbors. He read a letter from a tenant, Mrs. Yvonne Baker, who
has lived there eleven years. He said a Mrs. Byers informs him that
there is parking space. Mrs. Beyers said the footing is in and there
is a double door; she thinks they are using it as a single garage, and
does not know the dimensions.
Chmn. Rosenberger noted that the analysis shows the city has a number
of documents going back to 1925 and asked if Mr. Polk had others that
the Planning Commission does not know about. Mr. Polk said missing
documents might have shown authorization for variances or conditional
use permits; he is raising a presumption.
Frances Dannis said Mr. Polk apparently places his defense on personali-
ties; she has never met any of the people who live there. She said
they are responding to a legal determination of property and as far
as she can see, it is not legal.
Public hearing closed 9:47 p.m.
Comm. Hough said she has not seen any concrete evidence that they were
ever given permits to have three units; she has seen the neighborhood
which is single family, and they do have a parking problem.
Motion by Comm. Haller, seconded by Comm. Hough, for legal determination
of three units, subject to review of the City Attorney.
Ayes: None
Noes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Learned, Loosli, and
Chmn. Rosenberger
Absent: None
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Motion by Comm. Haller, seconded by Comm. Hough, for legal determination
of one unit, subject to review of City Attorney.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Learned, Loosli, and
Chmn. Rosenberger
Noes: None
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Haller, seconded by Comm. Hough, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-lo44 approving one unit at 1129 Tenth Street because at the
time of construction the property was zoned R-1 and has remained R-1
to date; any additional living units are illegal; and at the time of
construction there was a single car garage and no additional off-street
parking has ever been provided, creating additional traffic congestion
within a congested area, conditional on review and approval of the City
Attorney.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Learned, Loosli, and
Chmn. Rosenberger
Noes: None
Absent: None
Chmn. Rosenberger informed the audience that there is a ten-day appeal
period during which anyone can appeal in writing to the City Council.
SEVENTEENTH STREET SUBDIVISION
Request by Jason and Julia Lane for subdivision of a portion of Angela
Heights Tract into eight lots.
Mr. Merl provided a copy of the tentative tract map to create eight
parcels, all of which are over 4000 square feet. Staff has suggested
a series ❑f conditions with technical data subject to approval of the
City Engineer and fire hydrants subject to approval of the Fire Chief.
Public hearing opened 9:57 p.m.
Mr. Jason Lane, 1413 Sepulveda Boulevard, Manhattan Beach, said this
property was created from land already subdivided by the school district.
He said he was advised of concerns expressed concerning the easement
and off-street parking. Regarding parking, they will have a
double -car garage and at least one off-street space for guest parking
for each home (he indicated this would be alright with him for the
Commission to make this a condition), and perhaps two guest spaces;
with one on -street space for lots 1 & 8, and possibly for lots 2 & 7.
He said this property was offered without the school, district retaining
an easement across the property. He said he talked to Dr. McComb and
was told that they no longer had a desire for any kind of easement
from Harper Avenue for the school; the school district would be pre-
pared to grant that easement to them, for which they would pay a
nominal sum of about $250.00 He said they have not yet applied to the
school district to obtain that easement but are awaiting the outcome
of this hearing. In checking further, Dr. Rogers, President of the
Board, told him that the basic intent was to provide access to the
property they have acquired because it might have become a park; since
it is to be residential, Dr. Rogers confirmed the earlier conversations
that there was no longer a need for the easement. Mr. Lane said it
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would be possible to grant an easement, but the school district does
not want it; the north end of the property is 125 feet from 19th
Street, which provides pedestrian and vehicular access.
Al Schwab, 1714 Golden, said the subdivision affects egress at the
back of his property which he has had for many years; no one had been
notified of the sale except in the paper; he has access from Golden
but will not have it from 17th Street; and he believes the lots will
be graded up in order to build on them.
Dean Abbott, 1220 17th Street, asked if the lots will be graded up
enough to block someone's view. Mr. Merl said such decisions are
subject to the requirements of the City Engineer. Mr. Lane said they
do not have firm plans but expect to have about a four -foot retaining
wall on the west side so the pads would be four feet below the houses
to the west; a retaining wall on the east side as well; and they do
not plan to bring in any dirt, but do this to provide a level pad
for each house.
Leslie Coulter, 637 Manhattan Avenue, said he used to live there,
children played there, and he does not believe the people in the area
have much control over it.
Public hearing closed 10:29 p.m.
Public hearing reopened 10:29 p.m.
Mr. Lane said he wished to respond.
Mr. Lane said, in regard to the complaint that people didn't know
about the development, that there were at least two hearings on the
parcel map, the school was receiving bids; in regard to the park, it
was considered by the city and school board with both planning and
economics involved, and some other land has been put under the aegis
of the City. To the gentleman with the second garage, he said the
property he was using was owned by the public and he cannot get a pre-
scription easement from a public body nor can they make him a gift,
so if he obtains a right of way he would have to recompense the school.
Public hearing closed 10:34 p.m.
Comm. Haller asked if staff had any communication with the school
district concerning the easement. Negative.
Comm. Collis asked if the street width as shown was a deviation from
standards. Mr. Merl said the City Engineer was consulted and these
are the standards that have been applied for residential local streets.
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Burt, to approve the subdivision
subject to the recommendations and conditions from staff with two
additions:
1. That the name, size, and location of abutting streets and tracts
be submitted.
2. That the dimensions of all streets, ways, and easements to be
dedicated to the city public utilities, and location of all
existing easements be submitted.
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3. That the method of surface water disposal, irrigation, drainage,
and storm drainage be submitted.
4. That the location and depth of fill areas be shown.
5. That the applicant shall agree to provide any necessary easements
for the proposed parcels.
6. That a grading plan showing existing and proposed contours at two
foot intervals be submitted.
7. That the placement and easements for a sewer main be shown.
8. Curbs, gutters, sidewalk, lighting, sewers, utilities, street
dedication, subject to the approval of the City Engineer.
9. Fire hydrant(s), subject to approval of the City Fire Chief.
10. Grading and retaining walls, subject to approval of both the
City Engineer and Building Director.
11. Filing of final tract map within one year.
12. To provide at least one additional off-street parking space per
lot.
13. Recommend review of the easement in reference to tract map #32337
by the property owner, City Attorney, City Engineer, and school
district in light of the appropriateness of said easement due to
changes in land use affected by the granting of this tentative
tract map.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Learned, and Chmn.
Rosenberger
Noes: Comm. Loosli
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Hough, seconded by Comm. Burt, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-1045 approving, after receiving testimony in public hearing,
the request to subdivide a portion of Angela Heights Tract into eight
lots at the easternmost end of Seventeenth Street, Tentative Tract
Map #21785. It meets the required considerations (listed below) and
based on the 13 conditions as listed in the motion above.
a. The proposed map is consistent with the applicable general and
specific plans.
b. That the design or improvement of the proposed subdivision is
consistent with applicable general and specific plans.
C. That the site is physically suitable for the type of development.
d. That the site is physically suitable for the proposed density of
development.'
e. That the design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements
is not likely to cause substantial environmental damage or sub-
stantially and avoidably injure fish or wildlife or their habitat.
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f. That the design of the subdivision or the type of improvements
will not conflict with easements, acquired by the public at large,
for access through or use of, property within the proposed sub-
division.
g. That the design of the subdivision or the type of improvement is
not likely to cause serious public health problems.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Learned, and Chmn.
Rosenberger
Noes: Comm. Loosli
Absent: None
11 PROSPECT AVENUE
Request by Earl Mason for final development plan and tentative parcel
map #6031.
Mr. Merl said this is a proposal for a condominium on Prospect Avenue
between Eighth and Seventh Streets, the analysis to be corrected to
reflect two separate three -bedroom dwellings.
Public hearing opened 11:08 p.m.
Earl Mason, 1826 S. Elena Avenue, Redondo Beach, said the two split-
level homes are designed in such a way as to take advantage of the
topography of the lot with generous open space, privacy, and maximum
landscaping. Both will have laundries.
Mr. Merl said the proposed budget for cost of maintenance and the
landscape plan have been submitted; the final tract map is yet to come.
Chmn. Rosenberger asked question regarding the materials used in terms
of energy conservation. Mr. Mason said energy conservation planning
has been adopted at the state level and anything planned has to meet
their standards. He said seminars are being held in the profession to
elicit further information. Mr. Merl said he could provide information
on the seminars.
Arthur Morris, 805 Prospect Avenue, spoke in favor of the development.
Public hearing closed 11:25 p.m.
Motion by Comm. Burt, seconded by Comm. Collis, to approve subject to
the following conditions:
1. Review and approval by the City Engineer of the map, curb, gutters,
and sidewalk, utilities, rading, sewers, and any easements, and
fire safety requirements Un conjunction with the Fire Chief).
2. Approval of the Final Development Plan and Tentative Parcel Map
#6031 by the City Council, consistent with the requirement of the
State Subdivision Map Act.
3. Submission of Final Parcel Map within six months of Council
approval of the Tentative Parcel Map.
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Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Loosli, and Chmn.
Rosenberger
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Learned
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Burt, seconded by Comm. Haller, to adopt Resolution
P.C. 154-lo46 for approval of a two -unit townhouse condominium after
hearing public testimony. This provides open space, is consistent with
the General Plan, meets requirements of planned unit development, and
is consistent with the single family nature of the area.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Hough, Loosli, and Chmn.
Rosenberger
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Learned
Absent: None
NOISE ELEMENT
Public hearing opened 11:28. No one wished to be heard. Public
hearing closed 11:28 p.m.
Comm. Haller suggested that the Commissioners submit comments to Mr.
Merl in writing to be incorporated in the text before the next meeting.
Motion by Chmn. Rosenberger, seconded by Comm. Burt to continue the
Noise Element to the next regular meeting of July 26. So ordered.
V,,-�7 HFF�.JOSA AVENUE
Request by Keith and WendyFenner for modification of conditional use
permit --referred back to Planning Commission from City Council.
Comm. Haller said the action of the City Council was to grant an extra
half-hour during the week and an extra hour on Friday and Saturday.
Mr. Merl said he believed that outside service was requested in the
appeal but was withdrawn by their attorney; the request was then for
change of hours and separate service of beer and wine from the food.
Motion by Comm. Burt, seconded by Comm. Haller, to concur with City
Council actions.
A complainant in the audience said they had been told to remove the
tables and chairs and not to serve beer and wine outside. Mr. Fenner
said he will remove tables and chairs tomorrow. Comm. Hough said she
will not vote to concur with City Council because they have been in
violation of the conditional use permit before and since their coming
before the Planning Commission, and she does not think they can
handle it.
Chmn. Rosenberger read condition 11. That if any of the required con-
ditions set forth herein are not observed, the service of beer and
wine shall immediately cease. He said the Planning Commission does
have verbal understanding with the owner tonight and having read this
clause he is aware of the Commission's feeling, and aware of the con-
ditions.
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Vote on motion above.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Collis, Haller, Learned, and Chmn. Rosenberger
Noes: Comm. Hough and Loosli
Absent: None
Comm. Collis qualified his vote by saying that he wants to believe
that the applicant is sincere in his efforts to comply with the
request and at the end of the three-month period will evidence his
sincerity and not destroy his faith in mankind. Chmn. Rosenberger
said his vote was affirmative for the same reasons.
PARKING DISCUSSION
Continued by Chmn. Rosenberger
STAFF REPORTS
Mr. Merl conveyed the invitation of the Improvement Commission to
meet on the second or fourth Thursday of August for a dinner meeting
�t 6:30 p.m. The Commission agreed on the date of the second Thurs-
day in September.
COMMISSIONERS' ITEMS
Motion by Comm. Loosli, seconded by Comm. Hough, to nominate Chmn.
Rosenberger; and motion by Chmn. Rosenberger, seconded by Comm.
Learned, to nominate Comm. Collis, for Chairman. Comm. Collis was
elected 4-3.
Motion by Comm. Haller, seconded by Chmn. Rosenberger, to nominate
Comm. Hough for Vice -Chairman. The vote was unanimous.
Motion by Comm. Burt, seconded by Comm. Hough, to nominate Comm.
Haller for Secretary. The vote was unanimous.
Meeting adjourned 11:48 p.m.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes were adopted by the City
Planning Commission of Hermosa Beach at a public hearing held on the
loth day of July, 1975.
DATE
JIM ROSENBER R, CHAI AN