HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC_Minutes_75.11.10,`11I'11UTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING C014MISSION HELD IN CITY COUNCIL Ci-;AMBERS,
CITY HALL, HERMOSA BEACH, 014 MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 1 r75, AT 7:30 P.M.
Meeting called to order by Chairman Collis at 7:31 p.m.
POLL CALL
Present: Comm. Boone, Learned, Loosli, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Absent: Hone
Also present was Rod Merl, Planning Director
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Comm. Burt, secondeO b Comm.:'Rosenberger, to approve the minutes of
October 27, 1975, as submitted,,
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Loosli, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Boone, Learned
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS
Motion by Comm. Burt, seconded by Comm. Rosenberger, to approve Resolution PC.
154-1074 as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Loosli, Rosenberger, Chmn.Collis
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Boone, Learned
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Burt, Seconded by Comm, Rosenberger, to approve Resolution P.C.
154-1075,as submitted.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Loosli, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Boone, Learned
Absent: None 1
638 THIRDSTREET 1
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Conditional Use Permit for three -unit townhouse condominum; Cariker & Associates
MrMerl made the following corrections in the analysis: Project Description,
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first line, delete "nokt vacant" and add "having an existing single-family dwelling
with attached garage". Line seven, to read "Because this is an R-3 lot, 45 units are
permitted, however 25...... " Required Guidelines: 1/1. delete`5000 sq.ft,
#5, under Provided, add 1141 including area under balconies''
TY7, under Provided, add 11619 sq.ft."
Mr. Merl: said the project as presented meets the intent of, the guidelines. He said
the applicant on a similar project originally had roof decks, ,but the Planning Commission
encouraged removal of the decks to just off the living rooms.
Public hearing opened 7:46 p.m.
Jim Cariker, 1035 Manhattan Avenue, Hermosa Beach, said he is proposing to build three
units in a legal four -unit R-3 area, it will bring home owners to the area, and is good
for the tax base; it has a lot of planting, large patios, and is insidd all reasonable
criteria.
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Comm. Rosenberger suggested a different treatment for the fireplace vents; and by
window design or some other means to relieve the stark appearance of the east and west
elevations and give more character to the structure.
Public hearing closed 8:02 p.m.
Motion by Comm. Boone seconded by Comm. Burt, to approve with conditions 1-9; and
with recommendations to the Improvement Commission that there be wood covering of
some dimension on eht east and west sides of the building, and that the fireplace
vents be hidden or made to' -look like chimneys.
Ayes: Comm. Burt, Boone, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Abstain: Comm. Learned, Loosli
Absent: None
Motion by Comm. Boone, seconded by Comm. Rosenberger, to adopt Resolution PC. 15LI-1076
approving a three -unit townhouse condominium at 638 Third Street. A public hearing
was held; it was determined that the project meets the intent of Planned Unit
Development ordinances is not in conflict with the General Plan, does not have an
adverse environmental impact, and meets the standards for condominium development.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. Modification of trash area to seperate unit trash areas located in respectives garages.
2. Submission of final development plan within 6 months or tentative approval will
become void.
3. Utilities, easements, lighting, curbs, gutter, and sidewalks, street improvements
be subject to review and approval of the City Engineer.
L,. That a complete utility plan be submitted and approved by the City Engineer prior
to the filing of a final tract or parcel map; and that all utilities be underground.
5. That any public dedication be subject to acceptance by the City Council.
6. That the final development plans and a tentative Lract map (meeting the requirement's
of the state subdivision map act) be approved by the City Council.
7. That the City Engineer may require reasonable bonds to insure completion of
required improvements.
8. This approval is subject to review and approval of the City Attorney.
9. Subject to all other applicable state and local laws, ordinances and regulations.
with recommendations to Improvement Commission that there be wood facing on the west and
east walls and that the fireplace vents be redesigned to become an integral part of the
building.
Ayes: Comm. Boone, Burt, Loosli, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Pdoes: None
Abstain: Comm. Learned
Absent. None
821-82 SEVENTH STREET F, i;22 EIGHTH STREET
Three -unit apartment condominium; Robert Beck
Mr. Merl reviewed the project description and said it meets Planned Unit Development
criteria.
Comm. Boone noted that the second unit has 2 z baths and three bedrooms, which is not
shown in the project description.
Public hearing opened 8:19 p.m.
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^Mr. D:obert Beck, 1004 Second Street, Hermosa Beach, applicant, and Mr. Jack Chernoff,
architect, were present. Mr. Chernoff said the building will have a chalet duality;
they have tried to give amenities on every floor; the view will be over the existing
commercial roof toward the ocean; there will be intercoms and automatic door openers,
and the units will be around $60,000. He said the parking is the most efficient design,
taking advantage of the two streets; and the 10' setback on Eighth Street gives a total
of 29' for maneuvering. He said the lower gardens are under a balcony terrace and
screen off the commercial area; the second floor gardens go with all the units; and the
sideyard setback on the west side Wi11 contain tall trees, firs and evergreens, to
screen the commercial roof and provide a sound barrier.
Comm. Boone was concerned with the basement floor plan of unit twvo which may be a
potential bootley problem, having an outside entrance, rumpus room, bedroom and full
bath; and and asked if he would be Willing to redesign this -area. Mr. Chernoff said
they had discussed this previously and had tried to remedy it by malting the staircase
very open; people coming from their- cars have to come through that.area. Elie said he
is not reluctant to change and believes they can alleviate the concerns of the*Planming
Commission through working with staff.
Mr. Ray Bock, 835 Eighth Street, said he is opposed to the building because it shuts
off sunlight from the adjacent building, removes parking area for the apartment across
the street, and ruins his view. He said his is the only i:-1 property in that .vicinity.
Ada Neal, owns duplex two lots removed from the proposed building, said
she is concerned about the view and feels she will be unable to rent the duplex if the
view is blocked.
Public hearing closed 8:54 p.m.
Comm'. Rosenberger said this is an innovative arrangement for this lot but he agrees that
oth Street exit is hazardous and it will be difficult for the tenants to find it usable
or convenient and safe. He asked if it would be possible to incorporate the 8th Street
parking underneath the building using a single driveway, or to rearrange so that all
access it off 7th,Street. Mr. Chernoff said'it would.remoye all landscaping on the.west
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ide; he believes the landscaping arid setback are better, and to the advantage of a
neighbor to the north who has a view window.
Chmn. Collis said under- present zoning three units can be built to the height of.35';
a property otiner cannot be required to provide parking for neighbors, arid the. view of
every property owner cannot be protected. He said that architecturally he prefers the
parking as it is shown, he believes Mr. Chernoff will develope_a plan for the second
unit lower floor that will be satisfactory, and he believes the applicant has made an
effort to keep the building in low profile.
Motion by Chmn. Collis, seconded by Comm. Learned, to approve the application as
submitted with the conditions as follows:
1. Affadavits be submitted before issurance of Building Permit to establish deed
restriction of only three units on the property.
2. Submission of final development plan within 6 months or tentative approval will
become void.
Utilities; easements, lighting, curbs, gutter, and sidewalks, street improvements
be subject to review and approval of the City Engineer.
L,. That a complete utility plan be submitted and approved by the City Engineer prior
to the filing of a final tract or parcel map; and that all utilities be underground.
5. That any public dedications be subject to acdeptance by the City Council.
6. That the final development plans and a tentative tract map (meeting the requirements
of the state subdivision map act) be approved by the City Council.
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• t That the City Engineer may require reasonable bonds to insure completion of
required improvements.
�. This approval is subject to revievr and approval of the City Attorney.
and local laws, ordinances and regulations.
g. Subject to all other applicable state
-' that the applicant wort: with staff to reduce to reduce the potential for bootleg in the
second unit; and that the City Engineer issue a report or recommendations regarding
the parking problems on the street, access to the garages, and grades.
Ayes: Comm. Boone, Learned, Chmn. Collis
Noes: Comm. Burt, Loosli, Rosenberger
Abstain: None
Absent: [lone
The motion failed.
Comm. Le rned said he believes that the applicant and architect -have attempted to
solve th problems, and that the project is in strict accordance with the General Plan.
Comm. Boone said she sympathizes with the neighbors' problems and is aware of the
parking problem, but the project does meet the intent of the Planned Unit Development,
and the applicants are kvilling to meet the parking requirements and redesign the lower
floor of the second unit.
Motion by Comm. Loosli, seconded by Comm.
two -unit development. Chmn. Collis said
;project submitted.
Burt, that the project be redesigned as a
the Planning Commission must act on the
[Motion by Chmn. Collis, seconded by Comm. Learned, to vote again on the first motion.
Comm. Rosenberger said he likes the overall plan but .-could like the parking redesigned,
and requested addition of a condition that alternate designs for parking be submitted.
Mr. Merl said it would have to be continued to redesign. The motion and second were
withdravin. Mr. Chernoff said he would appreciate a continuance.
Motion by Chmn. Collis, seconded by Comm. Boone, to Continue, at the applicant's request,
to the next regularly scheduled meeting on November 24., 1975, specifically to consider
the redesign of parking and of the l or:cr floor of unit two; the possible reduction
of density; and to receive input from the developer and staff as to the parkinco hazards
on the street.
Ayes: Comm. Boone, Burt, Learned, Loosli, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Noes: None
Abstain: (lone
Absent: Plone
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Conditional Use Permit -For a take-out window for the sale of hot dogs and tamales;
Virginia Hebert.
Mr. 1-1erl said staff is concerned about take-out service on the s idevaal k and would ;,refer
to see It inside; . i, there s _ a f9od- estab-l-i shment •next ; door ,-and then res,i den t i a l ; and the
Pol ice Chief is concerned about the 3' width and felt that the pass -through window is
more appropriate to the Strand where there is a t•Jider sidewalk.
Public hearing opened 9:4.1 p.m.
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Virginia Hebert, 519 :avenue G, Apt. „'6, Redondo Beach, said this is not a necessity
for herself but is fo! the surfers who cannot leave their boards unattended to come
inside and cat. She said the bus i i lessman next door had no objection to the vi i ndow or
to the surfboards.
Public hearing closed 9:46 p.m.
Comm. Rosenberger said he would oppose this because of the width of the sidevlalk,
pedestrian and bicycle traffic in the summer, cleanliness, and that it would set a
precedent. Comm. Boone concurred. Comm. Loosli suggested restricting the hours as a
control.
!'-lotion by Comm. Boone, seconded by Comm. Rosenberger, to approve the Conditional Use
Permit subject to conditions as follows.
1. A trash receptacle be i;ept in front of the window,, and regularly emptied and maintained.
2. The 2nd Street s idotgal ,; directly in front of ta;ce-out k, i ndow to be kept Neat and orderl
. ,hose bib is to be provided on the eaterioi of the building for clewing the area.
?., }Iernosa Improvement Commission approval of all signs and e,cterior modifications.
�. �LO0rVlsioil of the �;ai -ing lint required.
No chZlnsa in the cand i'!;Tons of this permit, including, hours (1 1
7. Subject to all arspl i cable state & local laws, ordinances or regulations.
u. Subject to reviLt.�j anci approval by the City Attorney.
9. Subject to a si.g, month reviet,: by the Planning Commission.
10. All talce-out food to be pac.-wCad in containers.
;ayes: Comm. Learned, Loosli
Noes: Comm. Boone, Burt, Rosenberger, Chian. Collis. Comm. Boone said her no vote
is based on the reason giver above.
Motion by Cornet. Boone, seconded by Comm. Rosenberger, to adopt Resolution. P.C. 15'11-10j;
denying a Conditional Use Permit for a take-out window at 1110, Second Street.
After pubT i c hearing and rece i vi rig testimony, the request was denied based on the problems
of cotl�'vestlon, litter, pcdOstriai7 and bicycle traffic, the narrow width of the sidewalk,
and potential police problems. It is not in character with the neighborhood due to
close pro,:imity of residential structures. llpproval would have set a precendent
encouraging take-out ►�i i ndows which is not in keeping with the phi 1 osophy of the
Planning Commission.
Ayes: Comm. Boone, Burt, Learned, Rosenberger, Chmn. Collis
Noes: Comm. Loosli
Abstain: Hone
;absent: (done
Chmn. Collis advised the applicant of her right of appeal in viriting to the City Clerk
within ten days.
PLANNING D 15Tf t 1 C T S 01 SCU SS 10H
Mr. Marl proposed nine geographical planning districts, the intent of Planning Districts
is to consider physical planting questions on a neighborhood basis, to consider what
factors will encourage healthy stable neighborhoods. Such studies can involve meetings
with neighborhood residents, walks, review of availbble public facilities streets and
to resolve conflicts between zoning and General Plan. The Commissioners discussed
Possible adjustments in'`the area boundaries, the division of Area 9 into Areas 9 and
10and methods ofprocedure. Area 9 was specified as the first to be studied due to its
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greated density, sanitation and police problems, with a tentative date for Commissioners'
1,1alk set for Saturday, Dec. 6, at 10 a.m.
14--c-zing adjourned 10:4.3 p.m.
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CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes were approved by the City Planning
Commission, City of Hermosa Beach, at a meeting held November 10, 1975.
DATE
M 1CHA�L LEAlt2, SECP.E iAC.Y
IM COLLIS, CHAIRMAN
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